The Turin Horse - Opening Scene

A FILM BY BÉLA TARR, 2011, Hungary/France/Switzerland/Germany, 146'
In Turin in 1889, Nietzsche flings his arms around an exhausted carriage horse, then looses consciousness and his mind.
Somewhere in the countryside: a farmer, his daughter, a cart and the old horse. Outside, a windstorm rises.
The film tells the story of the horse.

[@V2EditingSolutions]

I had enormous trouble getting through this film the first time. Now I can't stop watching it. Bela Tarr is an artist like no other. He has stated that the intention of this film was to illustrate the heaviness of life. It's never been done better.

[@karenwebster8601]

so very different from Tarkovsky's rolling horses

[@keepplayingnice]

+John Bizarre Can you tell me what the fuck this movie is about? How do you interpret it as a layman who has no experience in watching arthouse cinema or reading Nietzsche? Or is this made for an elitist audience of those with great cinematic grammar and knowledge in philosophy and maybe existentialism?

[@futuropasado]

that's why I prefer Tarkovsky, you can feel spirit in his vissuals, he searches meaning and beauty in existence. I get cold with Tarr images, but this scene is really great and dark, creepy, the best of the film.

[@bushcrap2019]

@@futuropasado The problem with Tarr is that you do need to read Laszlo Krasznahorkai to understand the characters. In spite of its striking visuals, it failed to translate the breadth and scope of the novels.

[@PianoMeSasha]

@@keepplayingnice 1. dont blame him for your lack of experience. do the work. what the fuck is calculus about? do the work , dont just whine. 2. which genius told you you need your misunderstanding of what Neitzsche is about to understand images. Do you need Neitzsche to tell you how to understand your mother's death, or the death of your 5 year old daughter, run over by a drunk driver? Too much Bollywood makes ur brain weak, dude.

[@LorFire]

The best opening scene in cinematic history

[@schmebulockjizz]

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@saidmiranda1989]

I wouldn't argue against that statement.

[@emilio_mlx]

That would be Werckmeister Harmonies imo

[@crawlingamongthestars3736]

Poor Nietzsche. Poor horse. Poor all of us.

[@SplinterAce]

Amazing comment

[@MargaritaMagdalena]

Agreed

[@vitovito8747]

Best comment ever.

[@QuinnYouTube]

poor video quality.

[@crawlingamongthestars3736]

Collin Burman LOL

[@kinhamid9665]

There's something just so hypnotising about this that I can get from no other piece of media. Absolute gem of cinema.

[@IrinaIdeas]

Bela Tarr is the light on this planet that brings the depths and darkness of our humanity to another level of understanding. Wonderful

[@akasya7849]

The animal silence veils all the distraction of the world and the noise, but this unveils all your sorrow, all your grief

[@fesenzac]

One of the two best opening scenes on cinema. The other being Werner Herzog s Aguirre

[@rabinohhrabin]

Mr. Tarr just want you to know you have a massive fan from Nepal 🙏!!

[@ginofactap]

Bela Tarr and True Detective. taste; you're doing it right.

[@MAQUIYA]

Tarr, the greatest filmmaker who’s still breathing on this planet.

[@feliphealencar8438]

Have you ever heard of a boy named Godard? ;)

[@MAQUIYA]

@@feliphealencar8438 if you think Godard is better filmmaker than Tarr that's up to you, I personally don't think so.

[@harryday3258]

Feliphe Alencar Godard sucks

[@MAQUIYA]

@@harryday3258 I agree

[@angquang2804]

@@MAQUIYA they're different :)))

[@gavinkerslake]

one of the best films ever.

[@dukewinward]

Most viewers will have no idea about how people were so dependent on horses and the training and equipment needed to keep them. Cruelty was common toward animals and women. I will be one of the last to remember this observation from my childhood in the mountains where my neighbor used them for transportation and plowing and I would follow behind him when he plowed with them through the rock infested fields.

[@MixYourWay]

Completely addicted to this long shot piece + music arrangement

[@alikarimov1048]

Perfect film

[@BartholomewSmutz]

Glorious 240p !

[@kinhamid9665]

It suits this film.

[@No0b3FR]

Film génial. Bella Tarr est bien mon réalisateur préféré avec Tarkovski.

[@5aab4ever]

This is all true and soulful experience and at the end want to watch again ( same experience as satyajit ray ). No Comments for Bella Tarr, Only Respect.

[@TheEzacal]

Orgasmic! Thanks Misi for the music too!

[@sugarpoisson1]

masterpiece

[@akpakp369]

The master of movie, tarr, my salute

[@fertaly1]

Like a painting. 🙏

[@akpakp369]

I don't know how many times I have watched this movie 🎥

[@RafireRocksNRules]

I went to sleep after the first half of the movie intentionally, when I woke up I watched the other half.

[@Kouzeleasstratos]

it's a prophetic film about the fate of Europian people before living the brutal politic of austerity and poverty. When I saw the film before 6-7 years I could'nt understand how close to reality was the scenes of the film. But later when I felt all this hard stuff -living in Greece-I thought that reality was alike the film !

[@TheSaltydog07]

I see no difference between the horse and his owners.

[@PianoMeSasha]

I love serious art film, in particular European. but Tarr and Tarkovsky (is that a coincidence) both leave me cold. Its all cerebral, philosophical but for me too reliant on a continued unbroken sense of loss. realized too, i prefer dialogue rich like Rohmer, but even Bresson...Dekalogue still my favorite from Central Europe

[@cheeseandonions9558]

I almost recommended your comment, but the Dekalog isn't perfect either

[@davidbastardo4154]

So you like formalism instead of avant-garde. Nothing special about that.

[@SladeBallard]

this cured my insomnia

[@ringanmajumdar1949]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@atorinoilo2523]

mutter ich bin dumm

[@godisonegodhaswon5957]

After seeing a horse being whipped in the streets of Turin, Italy, Nietzsche had a mental breakdown that put him in an asylum for the rest of his life. Nietzsche is reported to have run over to the horse and held it in his arm to protect it before he collapsed to the ground. The scene was also the subject a movie by Bela Tarr (whom Jacques Ranciere wrote a bookabout) called The Turin Horse. According to Botton, after the horse incident Nietzsche “returned to his boarding house, danced naked” and thought of shooting the Kaiser. Botton continues to explain that Nietzsche began to believe himself to be Jesus, Napoleon, Buddha and other historical figures. Nietzsche’s family threw him into asylum where he died 11 years later at the age of 56." From the author of, "The Antichrist", to believing he was Christ, that is the destiny of the father of nihilism at the end.

[@thomasdanielraj]

அருமை

[@mojtabasayyad1114]

Ali Sorena - Harkat (Arrabeye Marg)

[@whynottalklikeapirat]

This robot horse just passed the Turin test

[@rembeadgc]

Beautifully shot movie. Well acted also. After the first few minutes, I got it that the intention was to subject the viewer to a point of view regarding the drudgery and oppressive weight of life as experienced by the characters. The trouble is, IMO, that the movie isn't reflecting the actual EXPERIENCE (not physical circumstances, but experience, which first takes place psychologically and then manifests externally) of actual human beings. Even if the characters are based on real life people...there is so much dynamism that occurs in the mind and heart of a given human being in such circumstances that, IMO, isn't reflected in this movie. If there existed two characters like the father and daughter and we were granted access to view their circumstances, I don't even remotely think it would look like this. IMO, this is an imposition of someone's worldview and philosophy upon two imaginary characters who are false representatives of humanity. Notice how the father looks intently at his daughter each time she dresses or undresses him. I had to ask myself "Why is he looking at her so sternly and yet vacant of any clear affection or appreciation?" Contextually, what she is doing is not new to him, something that would make her an object of his surprise, amazement or curiosity. Nor did it appear that she was doing it incorrectly, thus being worthy of a disapproving gaze. Instead he looks at her as though she is a foreign object doing something he doesn't quite understand. It's on this level that the movie lacks credibility for me. I just question whether these two human beings, portrayed in the movie, actually exist anywhere except in the philosophical mind of their creator.

[@PayneToTheMax]

As much as I love TTH, I agree with you in that it tends to be decidedly... one-note which, as you said, can lead to the feeling that the film isn't 'truly' representative of The Human Experience. You've offered some great insight.

[@schmebulockjizz]

This shot alone is fucking horrendous

[@poljoklof1209]

Its been done to underline human alienation and existential loneliness. I would rather ask Tarr to depict what makes father and his daughter to always come back in the attempt escape/move out from the house.

[@tdpay9015]

This is always the problem when characters represent ideas. By contrast, a character like Macbeth reciting "tomorrow and tomorrow" is expressing weariness and despair, but also mourning the death of his wife -- there is human context.

[@visionautopsy]

This movie make me depressed

[@SplinterAce]

Good.

[@anesmerazi603]

في تورينو يوم 03 جانفي 1889, خطا نيتشه خارج الغرفة رقم ستة نحو كارلو ألبرتو, ربما ليتمشى, ربما ليذهب نحو مركز البريد ليحصل بريده. غير بعيد عنه, أو على الأحرى بعيدا جدا عنه, كان لسائق عربة مشكلة مع حصانه العنيد . رغم كل التحفيز , يرفض الحصان أن يتحرك, ليفقد صاحبه صبره و يتناول سوطه. يصل نيتشه لمكان الحادثة و هذا يضع حدا للمشهد العنيف لسائق المركبة. الذي يكون يزبد من الغضب حينذاك. يقفز نيتشه الممتلئ و صاحب الشنب الغليظ فجأة للعربة و يحيط رقبة الحصان بذراعيه, مجهشا بالبكاء. يأخذه جاره للمنزل, أين يستلقي هامدا و صامتا على الأريكة لمدة يومين, إلى أن ينطق الكلمات الإجبارية الأخيرة : "أماه, كم كنت أحمق" .

[@nucklebrock1308]

Isn’t that the horse from horsin around

[@golz9785]

difficult to watch. At any moment I was waiting for the horse to collapse. The like to dislike / view ration seems the large portion of the audience wasn't sure to like or dislike.

[@mangoMango-ck3et]

it puts a real perspective on depressing, doesn't it..

[@godisonegodhaswon5957]

If you look at the destiny of the father of nihilism Nietzsche you'll see that in 1889 he ended up hugging a horse that was being abused by a person he became angry at the person then He realized that something deep inside of him his innate sense told them that this was an injustice and that hurting an animal an innocent animal was wrong However that conflicted completely with his worldview and everything that he had spewed up until that point all the books he wrote all the hate he put out into the world that led pretty much to World War II in the next century and European nihilism This caused him to "go crazy" thereafter he suffered a mental breakdown and ended up dying in a mental institution 11 years later in 1900 where he would repeat the phrases "are you happy with this circus? for I am the architect of it!" and "Mother, I am dumb." until he died I guess he had a self realization that nothing leads to nothing and believe thereto likewise will render you to nothing

[@davidbastardo4154]

Nietzsche was a prophet of Nihilism, not its father. If you actually read his works (the ones written in the second half of his life), you would know this very blatantly obvious fact. He opposed Nihilism and detested it with every inch of his being. What he aimed to do was denouncing it. His whole work was about denouncing the Nihilism that was taking over the West after the Napoleonic Wars.

[@mateozunic7682]

When all else fails, we can whip the horses eyes/And make them sleep, and cry

[@supersecretsquirrelsquad8840]

Benthic tradition.

[@siamsquirrel8185]

This shit is crazy

[@ururuuufufhdj8]

kolopanoco

[@kolopanoco]

aliezB jaja

[@juanlucas1546]

kolopanoco jjaja yo tambien vine por el directo jaja

[@alfredagain]

I heard this was a slow movie!

[@gerlaip]

you are right. :)

[@Solarstar10]

Slow is an understatement. Think of a video of a snail moving recorded by the slow mo guys. Then you'll have an idea of how slow this movie is.

[@alfredagain]

+Solarstar10 I think I must be growing young and my attention span would find this film too much to handle. I went to the Foreign Film Festival, as I always do, last year and encountered a real slow, bore called "Jauja", starring Viggo Mortensen. Fantastic cinematography of the beautiful Argentina wilds but so little happening in the story.

[@Onmysheet]

Yes it's slow, but I was never bored for the whole 155 minutes.

[@alfredagain]

+Onmysheet Good on you. I may watch it yet.

[@aspectofhades]

why did i watch this

[@lakshmanankomathmanalath]

I think most of the great directors are so cruel, inhuman, no mercy............................😑

[@BC-yr6eg]

👍👍👍

[@XTSY]

mistreating animals is always down-pushing

[@vladimirpejnovic7397]

anyone who read about Neitczhes life and work , not regarding Irvin Jaloms book "When Netchze wept" fantasmic biography would agree that he didn't get a nervous breakdown becaouse of angry man beateing a poor old thin starving horse,Friendrich had stuggles when he had seen raw meat, at the butchers shop he had to cross the street the other side.such shame people consider this film for a good film .

[@monikahorvath3627]

Who makes a movie about a piece of raw meat? And who wants to watch a movie like that? This is not a documentary, but an art film. As Yalom's book is fictional.

[@moimoimoiiiiiii32221]

Didnt he eat meat?

[@leojafracafe21193]

Solo vine por kolopanoco jeke

[@sageofkalyug]

Bow to Nitsche 🙏

[@johnmoylan7795]

Terrible First Date movie

[@mdm2186]

LOOOOL

[@DCI-Frank-Burnside]

I've always suspected The Turin Horse was intended as a comedy. Watch it as a comedy (the bleakness is absurdly amusing) and you'll enjoy it a lot more than if you watch it in a chin stroking manner.

[@rekuzaaan]

Although Tarr has been quoted saying that all his films are comedies except The Turin Horse.

[@234pg786]

How does one even find humor in The Turin Horse?

[@bladeer]

πένε fake it till you make it

[@darkarts6903]

πένε I think it would only be funny if you were Nietzsche.

[@PayneToTheMax]

In a weird way, I actually get this; the overbearing fatalism almost makes you want to laugh at times. Almost.

[@questionmark3666]

I just don't get his films unless they r art films like earser head

[@davidbastardo4154]

XD

[@Ian24s]

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