The TvT That Proves Mech is Broken (below gold)

Welcome to episode #15 of Noobs in disguise. Your 7th favourite starcraft II duo lambo and harstem are back to give you some insane Noob in disguise action.
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[@joshuaevans6521]

watching you two be held hostage by silver players is pure comedy

[@the_rabidsquirel]

I support this "Simple Geometry" and his content picks for the channel, this was great.

[@ThomasRuleZzZzZ]

I would say it is pure gold : )

[@LQN2]

This is the most watched video in the series xdd

[@pukseli2270]

Little did Harstem know this IS content

[@princess_love9929]

It was very cool to see matcha making turrets right until the bitter end. Even when he barley had anything left he spent the few minerals he had on a couple extra turrets. True dedication.

[@shadrsabirov6412]

below masters

[@colinlu9695]

30:00 my bad 😅i wanted to have a tvt because we never had a tvt and wanted to have a lower level replay because we didnt have one in a while but this was not quite the game to pick maybe xdddd

[@morgwai667]

"the content" in the end was absolutely hilarious, i had great time: many thanks!!! :)))

[@LQN2]

You say "my bad" but it's the most viewed video on the channel. Harstem and Lambo can suffer every few videos for our entertainment.

[@Wezelkonijn]

@Lambo, mines will always shoot only 1 at a time at a single unit. If you want to kill a bc or ultra with mines you have to manually select 5 mines and rightclick in order for all of them to shoot at once and kill the unit.

[@chyzyzbik5623]

Yeah, I'm actually super surprised he didn't knew that, guess you need to live through gold league to know this stuff XD

[@sharpie11112]

TBH that could/should? be removed for units with more HP than 1 mine hit

[@chyzyzbik5623]

@@sharpie11112 to make mines even more broken belove gold? Yeah I would not

[@LamboSC2]

most of my units get oneshot by mines so i had no idea, it made sense once i thought about it for a bit though. Thankfully i had enough time to do so during this match :D

[@Name-ru1kt]

@@sharpie11112mines are already insanely op for not needing any micro whatsoever. Also more automation isn’t always better. Besides stuff like tempest overkill is much better to change. Especially with how air units stack its super hard to stutter step target fire

[@KumarBendrake]

Just so you know, it doesn't get boring listening to you guys make jokes as you try to understand why metal league players do the things we do. This is so highly amusing that it's quickly turning into my favorite show. Or 2rd or 3rd favorite after Cheesiest Man and Greediest Man. Greed is a form of cheese in my book. But I digress. You guys keep doing what you're doing. The show is great.

[@ricroflxD]

Turrets are the perfect counter against mines, mines can't kill turrets and turrets reveal mines. Plus, turrets are additional buildings your opponent have to clear to win the game.

[@KumarBendrake]

They should have you on the show. Someone has to explain there is method behind noob madness.

[@fluffyfang4213]

In the same vein, Ravens. Reveal mines, auto-turrets deal a lot of damage to things that don't move away, and the turrets count as buildings.

[@muffinbutton8858]

It's crazy the amount of people I've seen who gg or 'give up' only to then keep playing trying to catch you off guard.

[@ryanstradford9771]

Why not its a strategy if it works good on you

[@buttonasas]

@@ryanstradford9771 It's disrespectful. It's not like your life depends on it, it's only a game.

[@enriquegarciacota3914]

@@ryanstradford9771they might win, but they have no manners.

[@selearth3123]

It's like saying gg in a chess game, shaking hands with your opponent and then trying to make a move while their back is turned and they can't follow the board.

[@buttonasas]

@@selearth3123 That's... a very poor comparison.

[@Aesgeroth]

I think I laughed the entire time from where Harstem and Lambo realized the match wasn't going to get better

[@Hairintd]

we still remember epic tvt or tvz on iodis series, which lasts about an hour and Harstem hardly survived it... This symmetrical map with island in top right corner... Epic game. But, there was BC-s. Must see. UPD: calles "The Worst Player Ever Thinks BattleCruisers Are Imba"

[@Amoeby]

This is an old one. Was it before the episode in which the player called mutas "flying dragons"? Iirc it was on CN server.

[@Hairintd]

@@Amoeby yeah, nice and cosy, i miss that stuff sometimes, without all of these professional editing ) flying dragons was very close on playlist, probably earlier couple of vids before this came out. And at some point flying dragons even came back into iodis once more )

[@Amoeby]

@@Hairintd yeah, I remember that I was wondering what's that guy gonna bring the second time he submitted a replay.

[@centopus]

Please do not complain too much about this one. Its fun once in a while, to listen to you both trying to fill the time with anything, while the players brainstorm their strategy.

[@ChannelMath]

27:10 Thor kicks the charred chassis of his kill across the floor? cool

[@patrickmuller3248]

I have the "slight" feeling those two already played each other. Matcha did what he did, because Chocolates seems to do similar stuff every game. Like proxy Rax or proxy CCs (hence the SCVs going out and searching) and also building the turrets vs the mines or maybe even mine drops. Not very efficient but to me a clear indicator that Matcha wanted to make sure to counter/blind counter what Chocolates was doing

[@2639theboss]

I have the slight feeling that both players suffered extreme brain damage in their last matchup, its the only explanation for their play.

[@patrickmuller3248]

@@2639theboss Wow, I assume that's supposed to be funny. I think you can do better than that

[@2639theboss]

@@patrickmuller3248 Its more a description of how low-tier and completely inexplicable 95% of their decisions were, but sure, take it however you want. If youd rather spend your time writing a novel analyzing a silver shitshow, as it appears, be my guest.

[@patrickmuller3248]

​@@2639theboss I'd just rather be respectful to others. Now, if you'd rather spend your time shitting on people that are not as good just because they have other things to do in their lives, as it appears, be my guest.

[@2639theboss]

You just spent 30 min plus watching a video thats almost exclusively laughing at and questioning the ability of these players, one of whom intentionally submitted it for the sole purpose of the above. Thats cute that you want to pretend to be above that though.

[@Alex-pq2fv]

The mental whiplash of listening to your previous video casting pros then coming here to gouge my eyes out for 30 minutes is insane

[@the_rabidsquirel]

1:51 Bold of you to assume Matcha figured it was a suspicious timing, instead of just committing to this strategy every time regardless because they're terrified of proxies and/or know their opponent proxies.

[@kerajit]

Best episode so far, definitely need longer games.

[@Dr_Baphomet]

Great episode, arriving at 19 min game time seeing the terran mech player in the natural of the red terran and hovering over the video to see about 20 mins remaining was certainly an experience. This is true Starcraft 2, I love you bronze/silver/gold players

[@TheCabarro]

That was a "so bad it's good" level of bad! 🤣

[@moritzlehmann1264]

back in the day i couldnt get out of silver league but seeing this makes me wanna try again

[@ralfanari8854]

you can right click multiple mines on a single target if you want multiple to shoot at the same time, good for dealing with bc-s if they accidentally go over a bunch of mines. Or ultras.

[@cooperleher10]

This is the content i want

[@B0rland]

Best one yet!! Haha loved it, so entertaining!!

[@colinlu9695]

27:10 ye im a fan of speeding up the lower level replays if they get long because sometimes they have interesting parts but other times at the end the game is totally over and it lasts for 5-10 more minutes

[@Wronkey360]

As someone who sent in a very long replay yes definitely fast forward through the slow parts for your own sanity! (although as a viewer I still enjoy it either way)

[@TordStromdal]

37 minutes of pure, unadulterated epicness!

[@roarmalf]

Hamster, don't let Harstem deter you, this was beautiful

[@ChannelMath]

Matcha crepe is always dominating the production tab. cant wait to see resouces lost

[@morgwai667]

39:17 Simple Geometry is the GOAT of trolling Harstem 😂😂😂

[@mrccantrill]

Pure brilliant. This so entertaining. Like most of my gold league games lol

[@joshuaevans6521]

this is the best video ive ever seen

[@jeffreywilliams3421]

What an absolute banger

[@SlayPlenty]

21:12 10 out of 44 scv's mining from 1 reactor

[@gabagool...not_italian...]

this was one of the episodes of all time

[@mr.floppi8275]

OMG! 33:30 are this both marodeurs in the rigth hand corner the one from the beginning? the same two form 8:08? Didn´t they move for over 25 minutes?

[@buttonasas]

Please someone tell PsychoFoe (MatchaCrepe) that Ravens exist and all races have a moving detector.

[@parkerhope387]

2 pro sc2 players didn't know that multiple mines won't target the same unit. how does this happen?

[@syvain1821]

All Red had to do to counter is Detection towers (instead of turrets) Lib, Tank. After than its as simple as getting scans down where you want to move into. I wonder if Red is just new to playing Tarren or something.

[@Silversiren28]

The submitter lost the replay, surely the screening guy did his job properly. 🤣

[@avefreetimehaver5154]

Nostalgic for when cheese fails.

[@gyulajakab5852]

I feel like this was a good one off for Noobs in disguise. A genuine low level game with the submitter losing, getting to watch lambo and harstem being held hostage. That said if games like this are common it will lose the novelty and just be boring.

[@erkistan]

I think watching it in standard speed is a challenge for you as content creators that you have to overcome 😁

[@basicuser54]

Players like me are so bad that we can learn as much from you two dissecting our wins as we can our losses 😂

[@kudohlol9379]

what are these people thinking.. holy.......... i wonder what is going on through the mind...

[@jackawaka]

This was absolutely hilarious, loved the game

[@brianwilliams1094]

not sure who got trolled here, either of the players, harambo, or us the viewers, haha

[@Fimbu1vetr]

Poor matcha crepe being called matcha crap

[@spoken_truth2501]

Me: who the freak is harambo? That’s harstem???? Why the freak he name it that Bam!!! Lambo speaks

[@inigofreed4373]

I recently lost a tvt to tank widow mine in direct strike, its a dirty composition I have to try soon. Odd serendipity this video and that game. The mine mechanic is that two mines can't target one unit at the same time, surprised pro players don't know that but I guess you guys always have multiple units on top of each other for the mines to target. Not sure if you can manually double target, but I don't think so. I think ravens would be usable for this level of players, and better for pros if they had a long range zero damage attack, sort of similar to templar. vipers could use it too. I'm thinking an auto spell attack that doesn't benefit from upgrades just so they hold back when you select all army A move. That is why these players don't build ravens in my opinion, I know its why I don't.

[@mh1593]

Yes you can manually double target with mines

[@cman759]

Yes speed them up

[@zaklied625]

LOL

[@lagtvfan2128]

How are rhey "in disguise"?

[@jamespitcher8163]

Before I see the answer, my guess is 2900mmr

[@jamespitcher8163]

Ah, no good this time

[@sciencewizard8805]

Let's balance starcraft 2 based on bronze players next patch.

[@danielhollick1708]

Below GM

[@NotaThing13]

Game was fun until red died and didn't leave.

[@willd7757]

I think the choice of this clip was fine you should of just been fast forwarding the nothing parts

[@PurpleH4z3]

still not bronce

[@backtotherootsracing7564]

That was a crep replay. Haha jk amazing content. Love it.

[@REALAMERICANMAN531]

Now u say its broken. Get it together man. You said mech is garbage about 1 million times. 😒🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 called OUT, and exposed.....

[@mothrahlurker788]

1) It's a joke 2) it's conditioned on being vs noobs