The Two Types Of Pirates: Cheaters And Kings | Analysis

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Mr Morj

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@MrMorj
@MrMorj Жыл бұрын
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@panafricanismisascam5201
@panafricanismisascam5201 Жыл бұрын
Crazy how Morj is still putting out trash takes and people are still getting upset at pirates for acting like pirates. Shanks is a "king" but he's destined to get dusted and done dirty by a "cheater". The scar was just the 1st part and remember what Akainu said "No excuses" 🤷‍♂️
@Tyche-Love
@Tyche-Love Жыл бұрын
Everyone says bb will get 3 fruits because the symbolism but right now with 2 fruits he has 3 souls inside him. He has his original soul the spirit of the darkness fruit and the spirit of the earthquake fruit and well as they say, you me and the devil makes three. That said I've always been curious that if a devil fruit can become awakened and living spirits can use haki can a devil fruit spirit use haki? Its said that the former users become part of the fruit so if a fruit routinely gets eaten by strong willed people would it develop a strong enough will to use haki... maybe the Nika Nika used future sight, the voice of all things and kings haki to manipulate the events that would lead to it being eaten by the best option.
@danyyeltr4803
@danyyeltr4803 Жыл бұрын
Don't microwave your food in plastic please
@random_youtube_user
@random_youtube_user Жыл бұрын
Bruh aokiji stabs and feezes Garp next chapter, which is called "the last lesson" 💀💀
@samspot7317
@samspot7317 Жыл бұрын
@MrMorj in which category would you put Buggy, cheater, king or another one ??
@grizzlyadams8277
@grizzlyadams8277 Жыл бұрын
“While it’s true that pirates don’t fight fair. The Pirate King doesn’t NEED to cheat” 20/10 closing line.
@panafricanismisascam5201
@panafricanismisascam5201 Жыл бұрын
Gold Roger snuck into Big Mom's territory and stole her poneglyph rubbings. He didn't challenge her and dominate her for it he did it sneakily. Then Roger got on his knees and begged Whitebeard for Oden so he could become pirate King. Even Scopper told Roger to get up cuz it was shameful
@f.n8581
@f.n8581 Жыл бұрын
@@panafricanismisascam5201And still doesn’t change the fact that Roger is the strongest and would defeat Big mom and Whitebeard 1 Vs 1 😘 !!!
@BraceDecades
@BraceDecades Жыл бұрын
@@panafricanismisascam5201 Luffy and his crew spent much of their time in Whole Cake Island pretty much the same way, sneaking around and avoiding confrontation. Just because you have the qualities of the true king, just because you prefer to play fair and not cheat, doesn't mean you have to go pick every fight offered to you.
@renziie2804
@renziie2804 Жыл бұрын
@@panafricanismisascam5201 but its still not CHEATING.... that's the main thing.. roger could have as well asked WB for a duel to take it but dont forget they had just come out from fighting for days... luffys crew also took big moms poneglyph rubbings without her knowing
@kjk607
@kjk607 Жыл бұрын
@@f.n8581 lost me at defeat Whitebeard.
@marqusmedina5983
@marqusmedina5983 Жыл бұрын
Kaido actually brought this up. "Winners don't need excuses"
@luis15317
@luis15317 Жыл бұрын
He actually also said Winners don't need praise
@marqusmedina5983
@marqusmedina5983 Жыл бұрын
@@luis15317 ah okay
@chrismic8087
@chrismic8087 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, which is a very interesting point. Kaido is a jaded man who was once quite like Luffy and earned his way to the top but lost his way. When Luffy yells at him about the honourable samurai, Kaido mocks it and says it doesn't matter if they're honourable, their culture is weaker for it and so the winner needs no epithet. Aaaaaaaaaaaaand right after that, CP0 killsteals Kaido's glory. INSTANT karma, exposing Kaido's true face. The winner needs no epithet, the narration itself says the winner is Kaido. And yet he is empty inside because of it. Luffy coming back was the best thing Kaido could've hoped for. And that, in combination with this video, is what makes me think Kaido is a top 3 villain in One Piece.
@cygnusprime6728
@cygnusprime6728 Жыл бұрын
​@@chrismic8087that is certainly a unique and very polarizing take on Kaido. Interesting. A lot of people think he's a bad villain because his backstory wasn't explored very well, but seeing how Kaido went from being like Luffy to saying honor doesn't matter and feeling empty anytime he wins is great writing.
@kooganh6276
@kooganh6276 Жыл бұрын
@@chrismic8087well said
@kjk607
@kjk607 Жыл бұрын
Morganeers and Peace mains
@Profitglutton90
@Profitglutton90 Жыл бұрын
Man they used the word peace main once in the whole manga and did away with that designation.
@royalfun1031
@royalfun1031 Жыл бұрын
​@@Profitglutton90Never
@royalfun1031
@royalfun1031 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if Oda kept that lmao
@adoniscreed4031
@adoniscreed4031 Жыл бұрын
​@Profitglutton90 thats not from canon one piece bro 😂
@BaranKRool
@BaranKRool Жыл бұрын
Would Kaido be a Morganeer or a Parece Main?
@matthiasrauert8397
@matthiasrauert8397 Жыл бұрын
Allways funny to me how Croc says that clearly to cope with his hurt pride as afterwards he fights Luffy hand to hand when he could've just turned to sand and waited for him to die from the poison, like he did when the guards tried to fight him using the hercules water.
@josesosa3337
@josesosa3337 Жыл бұрын
Good catch. Crocodile lost the ego battle against luffy when he could've flown away like earlier.
@matthiasrauert8397
@matthiasrauert8397 Жыл бұрын
@@josesosa3337 Clearly Croc at the time was in the same boat as Moria. Still wanted to be King but couldn't get over the defeat he suffered so he called everyone with dreams stupid. Croc is still my favorite villain though btw..
@rishabhanand4973
@rishabhanand4973 Жыл бұрын
didn't think of that. Though tbf, i think since he had already beaten luffy once after luffy was able to hit him, he probably thought he didn't need to do that. and by the time his back was against the wall, the thought probably slipped his mind in the heat of the moment
@KatsuImagitian
@KatsuImagitian Жыл бұрын
Blackbeard and his crew are always noted to be the most dangerous pirates and a threat despite how often they actively struggle and sometimes even get their teeth kicked in just for the fact they actually act like dirty pirates. It's not like the other Yonko whose pillar of strength was enough of a sell to their portrayal. BB is scary because he will do whatever it takes to win a true opportunist.
@panafricanismisascam5201
@panafricanismisascam5201 Жыл бұрын
Do the BB pirates really struggle tho? They take Ws everywhere they go. Oda always shows them getting hit, taking damage etc but then we fast forward and they win the fight. So far they destroyed the WB remnants, took out Law, Garp, and went into whole cake and kidnapped Pudding. 1 of their ships is going to Egghead and I would bet money they're somehow taking a W there too.
@KatsuImagitian
@KatsuImagitian Жыл бұрын
​@@panafricanismisascam5201By struggle I mean it's never a clean victory they act vulnerable. They get battered and bruised sometimes looking like they are at the cusp of losing before turning the tables. It's a different portrayal to characters like Big Mom and Kaido that just seemed invulnerable.
@panafricanismisascam5201
@panafricanismisascam5201 Жыл бұрын
@@KatsuImagitian The strawhats are similar to that too then. They always get battered, bruised and look like they could possibly lose but they always get the W in the end. Not every pirate is a born monster, but even pirates with that portrayal like Kaido and BM still lost. While the BB and Strawhats are going strong
@KatsuImagitian
@KatsuImagitian Жыл бұрын
@@panafricanismisascam5201 Exactly, this is why BB will be Luffy's ultimate rival for Pirate King. It's a compliment that BB is virtually an antithesis version of Luffy in portryal and rise to power.
@VVabsa
@VVabsa Жыл бұрын
@@panafricanismisascam5201 I guess it's opportunism vs grit. I mean, how both BB and Straws got into Yonko status shows clear differences. One does whatever it takes to get the advantage while the other does whatever it takes to end the suffering of islands they happen to come upon, most of the time. Goals and ideals do matter in how people are willing to achieve them.
@FutmamiMami
@FutmamiMami Жыл бұрын
These themes are represented really well by Usopp. Usopp struggles internally and "fights dirty" but the hype moments are when he stands his ground.
@ViPxRampageXx
@ViPxRampageXx Жыл бұрын
I think this perfectly describes Usopp's dream of being a brave warrior of the sea, he wants to reach a point where he can have a fair fight with the strongest without having to rely on his lies and tricks
@B_Machine
@B_Machine Жыл бұрын
Picturing Ussop being brave and fighting toe to toe with someone standing his ground is exciting. It would be even crazier if he's in some sort of position where he has to hold out against someone much stronger than himself in a situation where if he backed down there would be consequences for other straw hats or something.
@silhouette9699
@silhouette9699 Жыл бұрын
@@B_Machine Sorta happenned a lot in the series. The best example is Dressrosa fight against Trebol and Sugar
@bookofsol
@bookofsol Жыл бұрын
without lies, tricks, or someone saving his ass then usopp isn't winning a fight in this sense.
@ViPxRampageXx
@ViPxRampageXx Жыл бұрын
@@bookofsol I don't see any reason why he couldn't by the end of the series. I still expect him to be scared and he'll always have his gimmicks, but especially on Elbaf I think he'll get to have a fair fight where he can show how far he's come, otherwise he'll basically be the only strawhat to not accomplish their dream
@bookofsol
@bookofsol Жыл бұрын
@ViPxRampageXx After the egregious writing of him in wano, which lasted 4 years & his last good moment was dressrosa, which was 8 years ago I'm expecting the basic bare minimum effort for usopp going forward. oda peaked with him writing wise back in enies lobby.
@wordsandyou
@wordsandyou Жыл бұрын
If anyone is going to bring up the tea party as a Luffy cheating example, it is worth noting that he yelled out which of the fake luffys he was before going to so his main attack on BM
@ravelhidersunk4458
@ravelhidersunk4458 Жыл бұрын
Also, it's a Bege plan anyway. He initially followed along as a gesture of gratitude for the milk.
@justinbruise
@justinbruise Жыл бұрын
Using brulee ability was luffy's plan.
@ravelhidersunk4458
@ravelhidersunk4458 Жыл бұрын
@@justinbruise oda forgor 💀
@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr
@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr Жыл бұрын
@@justinbruise, plans and schemes are more of Law’s, Jinbe’s, and Bege’s forte the type of people that don’t have Kingly Ambitions like Luffy and Zoro have which are the most honorable fighters in the series hence why the strong willed and honorable fighters like Luffy and Zoro are Kings whereas cheaters and schemers like Law, Jinbe, Bege, and Black Beard aren’t true Kings of the Seas.
@batmandarkestknight3136
@batmandarkestknight3136 Жыл бұрын
​@@justinbruisewait does Luffy have a brain in planning?
@chrismic8087
@chrismic8087 Жыл бұрын
Big Mom herself said this when she 1-shot Page One, that even in the cruel world of pirates there is a code of honour. Big Mom is not below assassinations, hostages, blackmail and all that, but even she has a twisted sense of doing things the right way. When she blackmailed Jinbe into playing her game to earn his freedom, even that had a "logic" to it, at least. But a conqueror would never abandon that kingly pride for a cheap win. Katakuri acknowledged Luffy because of this; "no one would've laughed at you if you fled, because I'm the one who you were up against", to which Luffy simply ignored and kept fighting. That's what a conqueror is.
@emperorluffy6001
@emperorluffy6001 Жыл бұрын
Honor doesn't necessarily mean "right way" though. At least not in that context. It just means theres an unspoken code that pirates tend to stick to and respect.
@timurjack8773
@timurjack8773 5 ай бұрын
Conqueror is conqueror, nothing to do with good or bad, Doflamingo had conqueror haki. Teach showed red lightning vs Law
@Ayanokouzi
@Ayanokouzi Жыл бұрын
That Mihawk example was like throwing salt on wounds to some fans 😂
@coboby3347
@coboby3347 Жыл бұрын
I think the Straw hats vs the Blackbeard pirates isn't going to be a bunch of 1v1s like we're used to. It's going to be crew vs crew, everyone at once. The BB pirates are going to try to pull their usual tricks and gang up on the Straw hats, so the Straw hats will have to stick together to win. Luffy vs Blackbeard would still be a 1v1 most likely, but the rest of the crews would fight all at once.
@TheSukari
@TheSukari Жыл бұрын
Which honestly is something I've wanted more of in the series. The last time they worked together was against Oars but I've always wondered why team battles weren't more of a focal point in a show about PIRATES. It'll be good to see Straw Hat chemistry progression
@BraceDecades
@BraceDecades Жыл бұрын
I always figured that they were looking to rig the match-ups somehow to make the WORST 1v1s imaginable. It's not going to be Van Auger vs. Usopp and Doc Q vs. Chopper as fans seem to think, no, it's going to be something completely out of the Straw Hats' comfort zone and that they should not be able to handle at all. But because they're the crew of the Pirate King, they find a way to handle it anyway. Your idea's good too, though. Really I just want Nami and Usopp and Chopper to fight more.
@michaelpeak2438
@michaelpeak2438 Жыл бұрын
I agree with this a lot. I’ve been thinking lately how only a few of the BB pirates matchup well with the SH 1v1 wise. So I’d actually prefer if it went this route just so long as the Luffy and Blackbeard fight can have the most focus.
@deshawnthomas
@deshawnthomas Жыл бұрын
Completely agree. The ONLY fights I see being 1v1s are Zoro vs Shiryu (because it seems like the invisible fruit provides a new sword challenge for him) And Usopp vs Van Augur bc sniper battle will be far away from each other
@alexboi9454
@alexboi9454 Жыл бұрын
That would be awesome but i don't think that will happen... at least not for the entire fight only in the beginning. One piece is too consistent when it comes to that story structure for oda to break it. It's on the same level as no one dying
@4thgoal232
@4thgoal232 Жыл бұрын
Blackbeard is very deliberate. Shanks tells Whitebeard about his scar "I didn't let my guard down" he tried telling him he's been planning his moments very carefully & to call back Ace cuz he's too young & trusting to win. He said he's going to make his move soon & when he does he's "going for the top" even warns him he'll come after you. Everybody underestimated Teach but Shanks.
@powerscallingfiend
@powerscallingfiend Жыл бұрын
He lucky that's all ,but his luck will run out he gonna get his ass whopped to oblivion 😂
@4thgoal232
@4thgoal232 Жыл бұрын
@powerscallingfiend Can you call it luck if it was all planned beforehand? Lucky it all worked out exactly as he wanted i guess.
@powerscallingfiend
@powerscallingfiend Жыл бұрын
@@4thgoal232 he got the dark dark fruit due to luck ,he got saved at impel down by shiryu ,he won In Rocky port due coby and he killed whitebeard due to his crew so he earned nothing he has .
@XDEnd00
@XDEnd00 Жыл бұрын
@@powerscallingfiend I mean, he got his crew (at least the level 6 prisoners) in a deliberate way, and Luffy also characteristically has luck on his side a lot of the time (Buggy, execution platform, lightning, you all know the drill...)
@bigtoblerone8446
@bigtoblerone8446 Жыл бұрын
​@@powerscallingfienduh no dont you remember? Devil fruits have wills and dreams of their own, just like the gum gum fruit/nika nika fruit found luffy in the hopes it would finally be awakened after 800 years, the darkness fruit sought out and found the one who carries on the will of D in Rocks D. Xebec It wasnt luck he got that fruit it chose him
@vicentematias763
@vicentematias763 Жыл бұрын
To go even deeper into the point, the original Romance Dawn pilot had pirates divided into two types: Peace Mains and Morganeers (adventurers and pillagers, respectively), so they are very much translated into One Piece without using an actual title.
@sonofcronos7831
@sonofcronos7831 Жыл бұрын
Yeah but this dont apply here. Adventurers is ones like Luffy or Shanks, "good pirates" while morganeers is everyone else. Kaidou and Big Mom are morganeers that steal others, slave people and commit every type of crime, but they are still kings that fight with honor.
@MrHerolet
@MrHerolet Жыл бұрын
Honestly one of your much better well thought out vids Morj! I came into it thinking I'd disagree but you're right - and i do think it was all intentional by Oda. I think Zoros quote when Kuma appeared says a lot "The world is designed so that when it rains trouble, it pours, It's not like somebody's gonna save you if you start babbling excuses". The strong don't need to make excuses about unfair vs fair battles, they fight to win regardless. Whitebeard is a really good example- he never pissed or angry he had to be ganged up on - or the fact the navy used squard against him , or any other underhanded tactics. Despite all that, whitebeard still went forward regardless.
@vicentematias763
@vicentematias763 Жыл бұрын
Also, to further the idea that being evil and being a schemer aren't the same: there are two Emperors now who were Warlords before and are of the cheater type: Blackbeard and Buggy. The presentation of both matters a lot: Blackbeard will do whatever he needs to win, meanwhile Buggy has fallen upwards because he has nothing to lose. Good stuff.
@ExorcistClovis
@ExorcistClovis Жыл бұрын
If you use this as context, it really makes you wonder about Oda having Mihawk join the Crocodile side of things. Scheming, plotting, taking a carefully laid out route to sneak up to where they want to be, instead of using strength of will. It even got to the point where he had Buggy call out the pair for their cowardice. If Oda’s conscious of this portrayal, that means he’s intentionally having Mihawk step in the other camp, even temporarily.
@nicholasaugello2534
@nicholasaugello2534 Жыл бұрын
In Mihawk case it looked like he'd be alright with this if Buggy had an actual plan. For how his crew were gonna take on The other Emperor's.
@BraceDecades
@BraceDecades Жыл бұрын
Mihawk was never looking forward to be on top, he just wants a quiet life. So I guess he gets a pass.
@billalzerouali4436
@billalzerouali4436 Жыл бұрын
I think morji is wrong to assume mihawk has conquerors esepcially after buggy called him out. I think oda is trying to portray mihawk and crocodile as pirates who gave up on their orginal dreams
@kingmanga8575
@kingmanga8575 Жыл бұрын
⁠​⁠​⁠@@billalzerouali4436how is Oda trying to portray Mihawk as someone who gave up on his dream when he’s already achieved it. He doesn’t want the one piece. Nothing has portrayed that he does. So what aspect of his dream is Oda portraying Mihawk gave up on?
@theseeker7692
@theseeker7692 Жыл бұрын
There is nothing wrong with building strength first. It's not like Luffy, Shanks or Kaido didn't take time to build-up their strength.
@thomasffrench3639
@thomasffrench3639 Жыл бұрын
Not glorifying cheating is probably because it’s a Shonen Magazine, but Oda being a master, made it a major theme of the story. It also makes it easier to be a battle manga, because we don’t have unfair things that ruin the battles
@justaway6901
@justaway6901 Жыл бұрын
When Luffy kidnapped Brulee in order to buy time for his haki to return, is that cheating?
@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr
@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr Жыл бұрын
@@justaway6901, CP0 and Flampe cheapshotted Luffy in his honorable duels, so if you’re saying that Luffy kidnapping Brûlée as cheating then Marines and Big Mom Pirates cheats as often as the Strawhat Pirates if you’re going by that line of reasoning.
@sakura5sango6
@sakura5sango6 Жыл бұрын
What a GREAT reflection,in my humble opinion. To sum up: if you cheat, it's because you NEED to cheat :) It also has to be with being honorable too, of course, because Luffy wasn't always this strong, yet he ALWAYS preferred to play fair. That's why we support even not so strong characters who play fair against unfairness and why we love LUFFY. Because, yes, this is a story about pirates, but it's also a SHOUNEN (a pretty idealistic one for that matter). I'm just not sure about Law. He said he wanted to eliminate Doffy via Kaido, but his real plan was to actually use the mugis to FIGHT Doffy. To *fight* him, even thinking that he was gonna probably die. Then, he decided to stay with Luffy because he was the one who "got him in trouble" against Doffy. And even if he is a rational character and that's the biggest difference between him and Luffy why he isn't the MC, I can imagine Law wanting to surpass others rightfully, at least in some form of pride as we could say in their little competition between Luffy, Kind and himself. He is a D too, so he could get Haoshoku later (?). But I agree that his... ambiguous (?) state as king/cheater makes his fight against KH, the false king and the false D., all the more interesting...
@Sernival
@Sernival Жыл бұрын
Great video, I know your point about Mihawk not wanting to fight Shanks was something he said in the story, but the added narrative about how true kings fight honorably makes it a lot more meaningful.
@MadebyNoro
@MadebyNoro Жыл бұрын
As the Blackbeard Pirates chief in PR I would like to kindly ask you to refrain from any Blackbeard slander if my warning isn’t taken I’ll just have to send our stealth captain shiryu to solve this issue
@sirlagsalot8474
@sirlagsalot8474 Жыл бұрын
Sorry this is shiryu's assistant, he's kinda merging with the floor right now so you'll have to ask Burgess instead
@youtubewatcher8565
@youtubewatcher8565 Жыл бұрын
Blackbeard, who with his crew can't handle Law, you mean?
@Iroh10800
@Iroh10800 Жыл бұрын
@@youtubewatcher8565 but he did handle law and laws entire crew 1v1 with even when law have ever advantage and had far more crew. Law lost his crew his hat his sword his ship his pongyliph all low diff. That's the definition of handling
@panafricanismisascam5201
@panafricanismisascam5201 Жыл бұрын
​@@sirlagsalot8474 That's a lie. Shiriyu took that attack, laughed and stood back up in the next panel. Just like how Marco took Garp's punch in MarineFord and stood back up next panel
@bigsmall2842
@bigsmall2842 Жыл бұрын
Shiryu aka future zoro feat fodder
@NotTheWEJ
@NotTheWEJ Жыл бұрын
You’re the goat for these analysis videos! We appreciate you
@driakos
@driakos Жыл бұрын
I wonder if this is why Shanks & Crew make a point to not be fruit eaters? The 'end' requires that you do it the hard way? Will that make things more difficult for Luffy?
@SrMissileMonkey
@SrMissileMonkey Жыл бұрын
I can see the Red Hair Pirate's being a final test of wills for the Straw Hats as the Red Hair Pirates Almost all going to have greater mastery over their respective fields than everyone on the Straw Hats. RH Pirates are the last *fair* pirate crew for the SH before BB and his goons fighting unfairly and the WG who's just a whole different beast.
@shanewilliams4818
@shanewilliams4818 Жыл бұрын
I love this video and it’s concept, but sometimes great pirates cheat a little bit. When Luffy is fighting Katakuri, he cheats by taking Brulee with him out of the mirror world so he can have a chance to recover haki. If he didn’t do this, he would’ve have lost the fight most likely and I think his face as soon as he sees Brulee says everything. Then in the very first chapter, when Lucky Roo shoots the mountain bandit, Shanks says something along the lines of, “We’re pirates, who said we’d fight fair?” Again great video and concept but I don’t think it’s as cut and dry as you make it seem.
@royalfun1031
@royalfun1031 Жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I wanted to say in convos like this but words just didn't come to mind he knows how to phrase them👀
@mastername5373
@mastername5373 Жыл бұрын
So you are telling me that Usopp won't get Conqueror's Haki.
@totallynotdio1311
@totallynotdio1311 Жыл бұрын
not until elbaf when he becomes a brave man of the sea
@yaboyhank7942
@yaboyhank7942 Жыл бұрын
He Will prob get it after he goes through his story arc later in the story
@sibusisomkwanazi3124
@sibusisomkwanazi3124 Жыл бұрын
I highly doubt that Doflamingo would fight honorably though
@kave__mt
@kave__mt Жыл бұрын
At least he fought luffy by himself.
@Gurehige
@Gurehige Жыл бұрын
Exactly, Doffy operated exactly like Crocodile and Blackbeard but still has conquer, so it is an interesting analysis but I think it is debunked
@CACOaugus1o
@CACOaugus1o Жыл бұрын
Doflamingo is a special case though. He was adopted by a bunch of scum, BECAUSE of his conquerors haki, when he was just a kid. Doflamingo's story is very much about how 2 people who came from the same place, him and Rocinante, can become different depending on how they are raised.
@timurjack8773
@timurjack8773 5 ай бұрын
True, Kaido agreed to Orochi's lie to Oden because they were in disadvantage as well. Big mom backstabbed Germa too. Conqueror Haki has nothing to do with that. Teach showed red lightning Haki vs Law as well.
@mxolijacobs5056
@mxolijacobs5056 Жыл бұрын
Always enjoy these break downs. The slight dig at Law was brazy😂 and utterly beautiful.
@sparringcacti1159
@sparringcacti1159 Жыл бұрын
Man this analysis was insightful af, well done MORJ!
@AstroPeezy
@AstroPeezy Жыл бұрын
Perfect example: Kid and Law. Yes, both of them were fighting Big Mom. But Kid was the ONLY one between the two who was trying to go toe to toe with Big Mom. While Law was using support tactics and sneak attacks. Kid has Haki of the Supreme king, although he hasn't mastered it, he has that spirit. Law does not
@cju10802
@cju10802 Жыл бұрын
damn I 100% agree
@timurjack8773
@timurjack8773 5 ай бұрын
Yet Doflamingo has Conqueror Haki too, Kaido agreed to Orochi's lie and backstabbing and didn't let Oden fighting him again, Big mom backstabbed Germa.
@AstroPeezy
@AstroPeezy 5 ай бұрын
@@timurjack8773 what does any of that have to do with what I said..
@jppandizzle238
@jppandizzle238 Жыл бұрын
Example of peak Morj analysis 👌
@KT-sw6er
@KT-sw6er Жыл бұрын
Honestly one of my favorite videos from you in recent memory.
@joepaz9529
@joepaz9529 Жыл бұрын
Why did you omit DoFlamingo from your video? He has conqueror's haki, but he's a schemer, also cheated by making a doppelganger with his DF, he used Bellamy to put Luffy in an unfair situation rather than just fight him himself, went hunting after Luffy while he was in a weakened state, he stood down to Aokiji, went out of his way to literally lie to the whole world about his Shichibukai status so he could gain the upper hand on the SHs, and he's too afraid of Kaido and BM to move up the ranks. He is a perfect counterargument to your main point.
@wisdommanari6701
@wisdommanari6701 6 ай бұрын
he only has basic Conq.
@joepaz9529
@joepaz9529 6 ай бұрын
@@wisdommanari6701 Katakuri only has basic conquerors, but he was mentioned in the video. Also the video isn't about the difference between advanced conquerors and basic conquerors, its about having conquerors and not having conquerors
@timurjack8773
@timurjack8773 5 ай бұрын
@wisdommanari6701 , if Dof has basic Conqueror then with training he could learn advance too. Teach showed red lightning Haki vs Law, so he has it.
@timurjack8773
@timurjack8773 5 ай бұрын
Also Kaido agreed to Orochi's lie because they were in disadvantage, he didn't deny Orochi's shape shifting minion helping him, he could let Oden fight him again. Big mom also backstabbed Germa.
@lecarra7505
@lecarra7505 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I never thought of it like that but it makes perfect sense! Especially the part about Blackbeard!
@zmp323
@zmp323 Жыл бұрын
This is a phenomenal video on a really interesting topic. Cool stuff Morj!
@aget19
@aget19 Жыл бұрын
This is an outstanding video and analysis. One of your best. Hits the nail on the head
@EliDSage
@EliDSage Жыл бұрын
Great analysis right on point. Wish I had a friend like u bro for real lol
@4984christian
@4984christian Жыл бұрын
DF = you are granted a power that people dream they could have Haki = Willpower to achieve own dream
@siroutrage1045
@siroutrage1045 11 ай бұрын
“While all might be fair in a pirates fight, there are things beyond being a pirate.”
@NotYourCitizenAnymore
@NotYourCitizenAnymore Жыл бұрын
Oda knows historically that plenty of “pirates” were commanders that got tired of killing natives for royalty.. the history of pirates and indeed the world is not as it seems 🤣
@rodrigomeneses3855
@rodrigomeneses3855 Жыл бұрын
I think this is your best video yet!
@kahli1244
@kahli1244 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video Morj
@V.VIIIBeanman
@V.VIIIBeanman Жыл бұрын
Going off this vid it's only a matter of time imo b4 Mihawk is shown to have conqueror's haki. He has to have it given his kingly disposition and honor.
@Tyler-gg6xt
@Tyler-gg6xt Жыл бұрын
This is some of your best work
@ian.645
@ian.645 Жыл бұрын
Rocks was in Kaido's list of the strongest. Was he a pirate or a king?
@ziwelufefe8943
@ziwelufefe8943 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful video man
@karamlahyane5648
@karamlahyane5648 Жыл бұрын
Luffy is so a CHAD after getting cheated on by Katakuri s sister, he blamed himself for losing focus
@velho6298
@velho6298 Жыл бұрын
It's crazy to think how great of a foil Blackbeard is to Luffy. Where Luffy is the greatest king, where Blackbeard is the greatest cheater. Like we are going back to east blue.
@coolguitarchannel
@coolguitarchannel Жыл бұрын
Damn Morj. Amazing video man!
@ff7legend
@ff7legend Жыл бұрын
Blackbeard wanting to be the King of the Pirates is unique because he wants to be the King of the “Cheaters”
@infonoids
@infonoids Жыл бұрын
Bro morj, you cracked the code on why certain characters have conq haki (disposition of king), because they truly look at the seas and battles from the disposition of a king. From chapter 1, every villain luffy has come across has some deficit of character that ends up being their downfall. Luffy doesn't have conq haki because it's inherited, but rather earned it through his code of honor. Sure, the monkey family is strong, but they all earn their stripes through their actions. The whole "pirate" term doesn't apply to the emperors, an emperor is a king lol. WG discounts everything with pirates being bad. Honor is really important, as I think its why koby is on the projection he's been on with Garp declaring him "future of the marines" and even him in Marineford. I also think Garp and Kuzan have been communicating via combat, as the flashback to them punching the boats together yet not being able to communicate with words effectively is telling. As well as the "!!!" triple exclamation on the kuzan ice glove/garp impact. Garp says justice will prevail after getting hit.
@SnortingMagic
@SnortingMagic Жыл бұрын
Such a good video 🔥
@michaelpeak2438
@michaelpeak2438 Жыл бұрын
Greatest One Piece KZbinr there is. Haven’t even watched the video yet but just thought I’d state the obvious.
@AGARVRAWAT
@AGARVRAWAT 11 ай бұрын
2:59 hey where did you get that shanks poster from, its looking pretty cool
@bluebox2996
@bluebox2996 9 ай бұрын
14:40 Morj called them a bunch of bums 🤣
@Victhemighty
@Victhemighty Жыл бұрын
We need a video on what the qualities of a king are
@AcksD.Bharlotte
@AcksD.Bharlotte Жыл бұрын
Worj is spittin ngl ong fr no cap 💯
@pandanganmatiyn1487
@pandanganmatiyn1487 Жыл бұрын
This is a very well written video essay 🎉 But how about Buggy? Isnt he also an exception to the rule? I understand he was written as a gag character, but now that has changed. So what are yout thoughts?
@Rommulo35628
@Rommulo35628 11 ай бұрын
Buggy is an interesting case, cuz just like Usopp he understands what makes a true king, so you can tell cheating all the time causes him great suffering. He knows self-worth is important, but can't stop himself from picking the easy way. The main difference between him and Usopp is that while Buggy achieved amazing fame, he KNOWS he's a fraud and that leaves a bitter taste in his mouth that stops him from fully enjoying his adventures. Usopp never failed his tests because he knows picking the Buggy route would left him empty inside. He wants to live the real deal, not another lie.
@Mr.M3447
@Mr.M3447 Жыл бұрын
I have a theory, and I thought this be a good place to put it. What if Laugh Tale is a moving island, just like Zou, even being on a type of animal specifically a giant turtle or whale. Now while this is more of a speculative idea I’ll admit it, but let me lay it out. For starters from what I remembered Laugh Tale wasn’t discovered until after Roger finished his finally voyage, and that the log pose wouldn’t work properly and all of that, perhaps that’s because the island itself was moving, and the reason it couldn’t be found like a normal island is not only is it hidden underwater, but that the island isn’t always in the spot where the poneglyphs direct, and instead the act as an “X” for where the island will surface. As for why I think it’s on an animal is because Zou exists and is sporadic as well, but is easier to track thanks to being above water, and moves thanks to being on an animal, though the question then becomes what kind of animal, well for one it has to be giant (obviously) but also long lived so I think it could either be on the back of a giant turtle which surfaces every couple decades in the same spot (and I believe Zou could be a hint to this if I read it really REALLY speculatively thanks to the world turtle idea and elephants also being associated with that) or inside of a giant whale like Laboon that could either need to be coerced into revealing the island (possibly by shutting out of its blowhole and then swallowing it again). Obviously this is highly speculative and I’m not the greatest at the detail work since I likely have missed details, but thought this could be a fun topic for people to look at and come up with there own ideas or fixes to this one. Thanks to whoever reads this and comes up with something.
@AlejandroRamirez-tz7ff
@AlejandroRamirez-tz7ff Жыл бұрын
Another great vid :3
@omarua3435
@omarua3435 Жыл бұрын
Doflamingo having conquerors haki goes against all of this
@abdirizakm9426
@abdirizakm9426 Жыл бұрын
How
@omarua3435
@omarua3435 Жыл бұрын
@@abdirizakm9426 hes doesnt fight fair (see the using Belamy against Luffy fiasco) and is a scheamer like Law and Chrocodile, was scared to face Kaido....
@powerscallingfiend
@powerscallingfiend Жыл бұрын
​@@omarua3435he schemes but he still has strength to back it up with and he wasn't even afraid of fighting aokiji so doffy at least has backbone .
@jinkun2629
@jinkun2629 Жыл бұрын
​@@omarua3435 It's a lot more nuanced. This video is specifically about Pirates competing for the One Piece. Which Doffy is not. He never cared about that as far as we know, and he even told Bellamy that being a pirate was just a means to an end for him. His goal is completely different from the rest. If you want the closest comparison to him, it's Sengoku. Another schemer who is not a pirate and has Conqueror Haki.
@timurjack8773
@timurjack8773 5 ай бұрын
Exactly, or Kaido agreeing Orochi's lie and dirty tactics and not letting Oden fight him again. Big mom backstabbed Germa as well. Conqueror is about conquering nothing to do with good or bad.
@Swaggy-waggy
@Swaggy-waggy Жыл бұрын
Great positive video!
@TymeforceJojo
@TymeforceJojo Жыл бұрын
correct, but i think sensei going all out for the final saga and applying this philosophy to everyone not just pirates
@ff7legend
@ff7legend Жыл бұрын
I’d say the story is more about Will power. The Will of a persons Dreams winning out and creating the world we have in One Piece
@jpbsbraga9339
@jpbsbraga9339 Жыл бұрын
Great Video! What about Doflamingo, Cheater but with Conqueror's Haki? I'm curious about Your Thoughts on that one
@aquacuber505
@aquacuber505 Жыл бұрын
Remember when Bege tried to poison big mom via the wedding cake on whole cake island but sanji stopped him? This proved your point that Bege is a cheater, willong to take shortcuts to defeat a yonko
@j3nki541
@j3nki541 11 ай бұрын
To be a king you gotta have the pride of a king.
@MrThatblueguy
@MrThatblueguy Жыл бұрын
Shanks asked if Kidd was fully healed before deciding to fight him/also before his future sight of Kidd destroying his fleet would have forced him to attack regardless
@bakerguy43
@bakerguy43 Жыл бұрын
Unrelated; but was pearl an awakened df user? He got a little injured; felt vulnerable for seemingly the first time, and he became surrounded in white flames.
@nowaz
@nowaz Жыл бұрын
Beautiful video.
@jollyd.joestar3937
@jollyd.joestar3937 Жыл бұрын
Babe wake up, new Morj analysis dropped
@batmanforeal
@batmanforeal Жыл бұрын
Morj throwing out crocodile slander soothes my soul
@Offendds
@Offendds Жыл бұрын
When morj said “a group of bums” when talking about bbs crew Lol
@TPShanks
@TPShanks Жыл бұрын
Surprised you didn’t talk about the big mom “code of honour” panels
@timurjack8773
@timurjack8773 5 ай бұрын
Big mom backstabbed Germa
@trehubb6144
@trehubb6144 Жыл бұрын
The cheating aspect definitely will ring true for the BB pirates in the end. Especially now since I feel the strawhats top tiers are already physically stronger then the BB pirates top tiers..
@obi-wankenobi5626
@obi-wankenobi5626 Жыл бұрын
Blackbeard’s 3rd and zoan devil fruit will be Orochi’s snake fruit I’m calling it
@yamikamisama9166
@yamikamisama9166 Жыл бұрын
"The pirate king doesn't need to cheat,", also Rodger, proceeds to not take BM's poneglyph rubbing upfront and sneaks in to rob it. That's scheming, no different than something Law would do. Also hasn't my boy Luffy jumped Doffy, Cracker and even Kaidou. Sure, he may end up fighting some of these 1v1 in the end but that doesn't take away what he initially did.
@timurjack8773
@timurjack8773 5 ай бұрын
Kaido agreed to Orochi's lie to Oden and Big mom backstabbed Germa as well. Some people just want to hate on Blackbeard and throw baseless claims like he is not going to have Conqueror, he showed red lightning vs Law.
@bennybeck
@bennybeck Жыл бұрын
It’ll seriously be interesting if Blackbeard doesn’t have conquerors haki
@HatoriDrag0n
@HatoriDrag0n Жыл бұрын
My take here is that he doesn't have it and he's also going to "steal" it. You already have the scenario set up: they have captured Garp and Moria. If infusing someone else's shadow grants you their ability, as shown in thriller bark, then it could be theoretically possible to infuse Teach with CoC by infusing him with Garp's shadow.
@powerscallingfiend
@powerscallingfiend Жыл бұрын
​@@HatoriDrag0nthat's still fake , conqueror haki purely individual will which is why it can't be trained but can grow through struggle hence Rayleigh telling luffy that haki can grow mid fight .
@timurjack8773
@timurjack8773 5 ай бұрын
Teach showed red lightning Haki vs Law
@chuchojuarez95
@chuchojuarez95 Жыл бұрын
12:41 I find it intetesting how blackbeared has weasled his way into the top with the help of humanities "desires" Hes monopolized peoples dreams through his devil fruit focused agenda. He's very clearly linked to devil fruits With these desired over will Want want and want
@cosimocosimo2319
@cosimocosimo2319 Жыл бұрын
What about Doflamingo and Big Mom? Or even Sengoku planned to stab WB
@zheeve8305
@zheeve8305 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how Luffy's agreement with Bege's assassination attempt on Big Mom fits with this one. I always had a feeling that Luffy going along with it was somewhat out of character for him, but brushed that aside since, as Luffy himself has said, there's no such thing as fighting dirty in a battle between pirates, but when you look it from the way this video puts it, it does strike me like a deviation from Luffy's modus operandi throughout the series.
@bongcloud
@bongcloud Жыл бұрын
great observation haki by mrmorj 👍👍👍👍
@sapiensesciencecerveau2523
@sapiensesciencecerveau2523 Жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention that one of the Romance Dawn one shot had a dialogue explaining that there are two kind of pirates... If memory helps it was indeed the real world (cheating) pirates VS those who seek adventure/freedom 😁
@sapiensesciencecerveau2523
@sapiensesciencecerveau2523 Жыл бұрын
And Oda rooted that straight and deep throughout the Baratier Arc, witch was the portrayal of a duel with a true King (Zoro Vs Mihawk) side to side with the total cheater (Don Kriek). It's even more emphasized by Gin's character arc...
@NamenloserX28
@NamenloserX28 Жыл бұрын
I love to watch you videos while cooking. Unfortunately, every other time you tell me I shouldn't :c
@warmcoffee69
@warmcoffee69 11 ай бұрын
I have no idea why people are trying to use Doflamingo as a counter argument. Doflamingo is not like BlackBeard. Doflamingo does things the pirate way because he's good at it and enjoys it. Blackbeard does it because he needs to lol. If Doffy didn't have Sugar and her devil fruit, he would have taken over Dressrosa another way. He's a literal conqueror. Doflamingo has a spine. He just chooses when to show it. Technically Doffy just strengthens this video's argument since he only got so far with his methods.
@Ray_D_Tutto
@Ray_D_Tutto Жыл бұрын
How does Buggy fit into this?
@PrinceGregoryHenry
@PrinceGregoryHenry Жыл бұрын
What’s the name of the background song at the very beginning of the video?
@sidneywilliams6273
@sidneywilliams6273 Жыл бұрын
Kings: Red-Hair Pirates and Straw Hat Pirates 🏴‍☠️ Cheaters: The Blackbeard Pirates
@timurjack8773
@timurjack8773 5 ай бұрын
Shanks himself told Bandits they don't fight fair.
@omarsehaqui796
@omarsehaqui796 Жыл бұрын
Can you do a video about attacks compared to others Mangas
@user-jg2kd4uf3r
@user-jg2kd4uf3r Жыл бұрын
I don't know why but I have to comment this somewhere. Rocks was propably the original user of the storm storm fruit(feeting for a D) After the event of Godvalley regardless if he died normally or else(Brook and potentially Big mom) His fruit was taken by Roger thus making the next candinate for the most dangerous person. I was discussing with a friend about Shanks and while its true that he seems like the rightfull will inheritor to Gold Roger something off. Garp and many other has stated that Roger was no saint. So my take is that Shanks has taken his sword style symbilizing his vigor and honour. But the one who holds the fruit inherits the essense that Roger was about . The monster ridding the wave of change. In his execution one character doesn't fit in other than Smoker who got inspired to become a Marine. Dragon. In the recents chapters it was confirmed (lets hope it wasnt a mistranslation) that he is indeed the son of Garp (training flashback with Kuzan) .So far all the top tier of the Rev.Army are shown familiar enougj with Devil Fruit. From Kuma and Invakov to the others Leader and then Sabo. What if the only reason Dragon came at Roger execution was in order to grab his power as soon as the Pirate King died. Like he had an apple or a watermelon right under his cloak and the moment Roger passed he instantly ate thus gaining the power of the Storm which is what spark right after the execution concluded.The most dangerous man , the most wanted man. The fruit he posses. That trick may sound like something Teach would do. But in reality its more akin to Cipher Pol. You only need knowledge of the Devil fruit encyclopedia and be on the right spot at the right time. Punk Hazard was all about.Some other points is that its fitting for Kaido to get inspired by a monstrous Flying Zoan. [Yes the storm fruit is Zoan] And its the final missing piece for Blackbeard to get real. Sure he beat Marco and Law . But againt Luffy and Shanks and even Weevil that he eventually he must face . He is a gonner. He needs the Storm Bird fruit. The thing that made Rocks be the leader on a group with Newgate,Linlin and Shikki. That way he will trully be the worst man( most feared +most dangerous , Shanks warning to the Gorosei) Embodying Rocks will to dominate and Roger fury( thus the opposite side of the coin for Shanks/Luffy)
@pallabhassan3021
@pallabhassan3021 Жыл бұрын
I don't remember too much about whole cake island but if it is the case that Luffy would not cheat then why Luffy allowed brook to stole big mom's poneglyphs. Isn't it out of character for Luffy to steal something from someone without defeating them.
@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr
@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr Жыл бұрын
@greatvictory9243, Brook is the Roger that takes shortcuts like how Roger begged White Beard for Oden helping Roger achieve The Pirate King, but Luffy is the Roger that takes everything honorably.
@G4Helping
@G4Helping Жыл бұрын
"A group of bums" LOL
@gdulheflljasduhdzccvm9926
@gdulheflljasduhdzccvm9926 Жыл бұрын
nahhhhhh 0:50 foxy is the exception to this rule he cheats and still has one of the strongest wills is a perfect king and everything
@JR-182
@JR-182 Жыл бұрын
Another interesting one Late Lorj. Love all the vids.
@bongcloud
@bongcloud Жыл бұрын
sanji, can vanish using suit from germa but then he refuse to use it. and now, he still can vanish with his super speed. good storytelling oda 👍
@cs_kevin
@cs_kevin Жыл бұрын
3:48 and not being able to resist a treasure in front of them
@thkhoa8805
@thkhoa8805 Жыл бұрын
Correct me if im wrong, but Big mom or someone said that Roger STOLE or to be more precise, sneakily copy the red poneglyph from her.
@clay_freespirit
@clay_freespirit Жыл бұрын
3:03 End of ad
@DandyMan2525
@DandyMan2525 Жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to have an analysis of this relative to the Marines. Sakazuki in particular is interesting because he’s not a cheater, but he doesn’t have honor either he’s sort of just rage
@kingmanga8575
@kingmanga8575 Жыл бұрын
Lmao ur saying akainu isn’t a cheater? He’s literally the cause of the first cheap shot WB took in the war.
@theseeker7692
@theseeker7692 Жыл бұрын
Akainu is an extreme utilitarian.
@andrewlawson4901
@andrewlawson4901 Жыл бұрын
@@kingmanga8575 that was more of a strategic tactic and play into the enemy head (a ''smart'' move). bb crew are straight up cheatings rats. just look at their attitudes vs akainu's
@kingmanga8575
@kingmanga8575 Жыл бұрын
@@andrewlawson4901 bruh ur doing mental gymnastics to try to explain how blackbeard cheating is somehow worse than akainu cheating. They both cheated lmao. Akainu literally told squard that if he killed WB he’d spare the rest of the WB pirates. If that’s not blatant cheating I don’t know what is bro 😂😂😂
@DandyMan2525
@DandyMan2525 Жыл бұрын
@@kingmanga8575 I do agree that lying to Squard was underhanded, but for the most part Sakazuki isn’t the kind of cheater Blackbeard is. Sakazuki was straight up about to take on the entirety of the Whitebeard Pirates himself, so I think he has the disposition of a conqueror, although it’s a bit more gray than the pirates. Kaido is a liar too for that matter (lying to Oden) and so is Big Mom (lying to Germa), but they both respect strong opponents. I think Sakazuki is similar
@AsaTz
@AsaTz Жыл бұрын
But what about the time that luffy took the shadows to fight that giant and luffy also helped with the plan to take down big mom
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