The Ugly Truth About the Online HiFi Audio Community-

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[@TheXiate]

After watching a ton of his videos and living local and dealing with this man for several years. I have to finally speak my mind. He is as down to earth in person as he is in his videos. This is for the people watching that don't have that ability, to walk into his shop. It's an amazing place. I love it. Hands down to me, old school vibe, no pressure environment. First time I met him, I walk in 5 minutes to close, and I'm like hey, I've got $500.00 and I want to get back into home audio old school, sold all my stuff years ago can you help me. He was like, I got you. Took the time to play this and that receiver and this and that speaker. Stayed late and even helped me carry them to my car. This was low budget entry level. Still old school solid state gear but, entry level. Got home and was in heaven!!! Friends came over and were like wow. Great sound etc. blah blah blah. I've upgraded since then got the bug like we do and tried several different things. Swapping this and that etc. He is spot on when he says, it's up to your ears, room, budget. Period. I've taking gear into him, and he was like, I don't wanna touch it. It's not worth it. Save your money, he said. Mind blown, the honesty from Kevin. He totally could have taken my money and done God knows what with it. Who does this!!? This day and age, we need more people like this in the world. Just saying.

[@skylabsaudio]

Wow. Thank you very much for taking the time to share that. I honestly do not know what to say except, thank you, and I really appreciate that. Kevin

[@semperfi-1918]

Awesome expirience. I agree person to person customer service is the best.

[@JohnScheppler]

This is a very subjective hobby, so the best system is the one that sounds best to you. Enjoyment of the music is the most important part. If that's from a transistor radio to the most expensive system, it doesn't matter as long as it makes you smile.

[@policerKJO]

I agree, just like beauty is in the eye of the beholder, audio is in the ear of the listener.

[@stevenvox6549]

@D W I've wasted money by buying stuff that is supposed to be better, but it sounds boring. It's too audiophile for me and only sounds good on my best CDs. I want to enjoy my entire collection.

[@simonzinc-trumpetharris852]

Yep.

[@asmallwhitedog0479]

It should be called the Ugly Truth about sound snobs. I was an audiophile for many years and bought and sold equipment to support the habit. Then about ten years ago I caught myself listening to the equipment. It broke my heart. My stereo as a teenager was lo,lo fi. At the other end of that I have a friend with a system with names like Martin Logan, Macintosh, Linn ect...After sitting and listening to his system I came home and listen to mine and I like mine better. One of his amps is worth more than any system I can put together. I'm the guy who collects entry level amps from the 70s. Last night I put on a UK pressing of I Robot. Heaven, truely heaven. Rotel 833 with a Audio Technica cart (75 bucks maybe). AR cables. Toshiba SB 300 w 17wpc into a set of Large Advent (76-77 A3s, my favorite speakers) Pure heaven boys n girls.

[@crashkdw]

You're being a reverse snob. "Expensive is bad. Audiofilin' is elitist!" So, you like yours better... great. Is that proof of something? Certainly not that your friend or anyone else is a "snob." You like your sound, they like theirs. I happen to love the midbassy sound of speakers like your Advents, and old ARs. But some people like "neutral." Others love super prominent treble. Whatever. Doesn't make them snobs, and you're being snobbish yourself, here.

[@SuperRhondalynn]

I used to have a set of large Advents. So nice.

[@peterlorenzo615]

I ROBOT....always loved that album...my recent audio reinterst has dragged I ROBOT into it....turns out its a known "audiophile test album in the Hifi groups....played that album 7 or so this month..

[@peterlorenzo615]

Its about luck of the draw....vintage equipment is beyond the dollar amount .... What you find is what you get....my ONKYO 501 was in a trunk of an old car....gave the kid 20 buck. Sounds great....had no choice when selecting equipment....so I have Technics ONKYO PIONEER and Sony all mixed together....SOUNDS AWESOME....400.00 bucks worth of stuff people want to throw away...its more fun to be "assigned" with gear and then making it work together. ..hard to explain..if I had alot of cash Id go insane trying to select gear....

[@peterlorenzo615]

I understand you....its a custom system built by you....nobody in the world has that set up....too much fun ...I always wanted a high priced gear person to hear my 400.00 rig and swear it wasnt great sounding..

[@danwheetman6914]

Kevin, I haven’t read all the other posted but I bet there’s a ton of support for you here. You always make it clear it’s just your opinion and others are entitled to there’s. I really hope someday I get to meet you, there’s a kindness about you I totally respect. And, lots of good information about something I’m passionate about. Good man. Carry on.

[@a.delome8023]

As an old timer with old time sensibilities and mutual respect for all who treat me the same, I want to commend you on this video. Hands down this is one of the best conversations I've heard from a fellow audiophile. I wish I lived near your shop. I know I'd frequent the shop often and look forward to talking with you about the hobby we both share. I watch your vids often and look forward to them all the time. Keep up your great vids. all the best to you and your family.

[@pasadenaphil8804]

I really can't understand how hearing someone expressing a different opinion about audio equipment than one's own would incite hatred. Some people really need to get a life. Nobody "knows" shit. We are all just expressing what we believe. That is why we engage in conversations, to compare why we differ. One (or both) of us is probably wrong. I wouldn't be worried about people flaming at you. I don't waste my time talking to people who "know" things because the "know" people who "know" things. Life is too short.

[@moofdoggmike]

Introvert, naaaaa your presence and voice are killer in your vids, you're doing a great job on them and it is nice to not have to sit through a fancy intro, music and crapola plus, 16 times say to "Like, Click the bell and subscribe!" yikes...came here for the straight goods on audio as its been in my blood listening to the music, and that's what you give us, good opinions to weigh and ponder and enjoy! Well said video and right on. Keep up the great vids and info, they are great. Have a good one!

[@skylabsaudio]

Thank you. Really appreciate it.

[@SuperBuellman]

It is the same with motorcycles, cars and other subjects. You have your purists on one side, the know it alls, and the ones that have to have the newest best thing before anybody. Keep doing what you are doing because the best places I have ever experienced discussion and shopping have been at a brick and mortar store. You are spot on about your comments.

[@Kane26510]

There is very little point to arguing aesthetics - and the hi-fi hobby is mainly (if not totally) about aesthetics. What looks good? What sounds good? What works best together? As long as your system sounds good to YOU, it really doesn't matter what anyone else thinks.

[@scootb7400]

I appreciate the “Mom’s spaghetti” analogy! I am relatively new to vintage hifi, but trained and worked in recording studios. So many people are willingly ignorant of their own biases when it comes to listening. I am guilty of leaning towards a “warmer” sounding mix in the studio, and when mixing songs I like a system that is similar to the end-user listening experience I hope to achieve. I remember working hard on my setup and being excited to show one of my contemporaries, who immediately started to badmouth it because it employed active speakers “which can’t possibly be good.” I actually respected his work, but later learned he uses a system with the high-end particularly cranked. So we ended up with similar results but by completely different means.

[@68wrko]

Being a hobbyist in this since the mid to late 70's as a kid, please continue with these topics to enlighten everyone that nobody seems to want to talk about. Call it inside info or whatever. From snake oil products, audio snobbery and other bad tactics, I have seen them all. Just let it be said from your prospective as a repair shop or seller and also from a collector's point of view. I could share a few points.

[@CraigHollabaugh]

Such an interesting topic, the constant drive for 'better' exists everywhere - audio, golf, photography, fly fishing, gaming, cars etc. You're right, there's 1000s of variables but it comes down to one thing, does it sound good to you? BTW, your videos are quite good, entertaining, fun to watch and are short. Your audio passion comes through giving you authenticity. Thanks for the Monday morning video.

[@skylabsaudio]

Thank you, Craig. I appreciate it!

[@SinnerSince1962]

Well said. I'm 60 now, and have been enjoying this hobby for about 30 years now. I've bought top line gear from each maker at low prices that would make your head spin; let's just say at 25% of what it goes for now or less. I have seen the good and bad of the enthusiasts out there. There are a few experts that everyone should bow down to, even if it's gonna hurt your pride a bit. In general, they will help you, but they may relish the opportunity to show what they know to the community at the same time. You just have to take the chest puffing for what it is, much like you'd respect your doctor's knowledge. Then there are people who are just plain fools. And I'll admit, if I went back and read a few of my posts over the years, I might put myself in that category at times. Most of it though, was my perception of a personal attack by someone else in the community towards me. I just got defensive and... well, became that fool I speak of. I have matured a lot, I hope. The one thing that I have found paramount in the hobby is this; treat others with respect. Not everyone has your technical knowledge or abilities. Don't be a jerk, be an asset. Help others if you can. What does it hurt of offer up that spare pre-amp board out of a unit of yours that has long lost it's way to be a parts machine? Be especially nice to those Millennials that we older people think are ruining the world. They hold their own given the right guidance, and once they catch on, you'd better get out of their way. They WILL out-do you. They are smart, resourceful, and eager. And if they become your protege, they'll even help you carry that heavy console unit upstairs. I know from personal experience. Bottom line? Just be nice in all things concerning humanity. Respect differing opinions. Shape the world in a positive way. Lastly, laugh a little more!

[@peterlorenzo615]

Correct.....Ive found out how much I know and dont know in forums....we all were beginners at one point...

[@MichaelLivingston-me]

I love this hobby. I've experienced this pursuit for over 50 years. I haven't always been satisfied with what I own, but it informs me on what my next purchase might be. I never want to bother with cable comparisons. If other people can tell the difference between them, that's great, I can't unless it's cheaply made junk. I've heard some very expensive equipment, and sometimes I think this gear must be attractive because of the badge and the cost. I'm not suggesting that all expensive equipment is overpriced or overrated, I'm just saying you can't judge how good it will sound based on price or nameplate. I enjoy watching your videos. You seem to be a straight forward knowledgeable person. Best to you.

[@skylabsaudio]

Thank you, Michael!

[@frankflores3948]

I really enjoy your posts! I have been an audio enthusiast since the late sixties. I still have my Sansui 9090DB which I purchased back in the mid seventies (paid $450 - sale price, original MSRP $999). Completely refurbished and re-lamped. During the past couple of years I purchased the following: Marantz 8006 intergrated receiver, Marantz CD6004, Tascam 202SK VII, Thorens TD 206. I have all my audio library (LPs Cassettes CDs). I wished I lived closer to your shop (SoCal LA native) because I would definitely take my 9090DB to service some of scratchy post knobes. Keep up the good work!

[@skylabsaudio]

Thank you, Frank!

[@dmhnc07]

I don't give the rude "stereo snobs" the time of day. This is one of the main reasons I'm a subscriber of your channel and not many of the others. You are down to earth and you don't put others down. Keep up the good work and don't ever change.

[@johnstump2433]

Kevin you were spot on and I really enjoy your videos. On that note I wanted to thank you very much for displaying my vintage system on your website. I feel very honored and I think this is a great hobby and I wish I lived closer to your shop.. my wife might not feel that way ..lol.. Just kidding, she is a lover of music as well and she has been with me from the beginning.. As a matter of fact she was one that purchased the Pioneer SX-1980. Yep she’s a keeper or I should say I am glad she kept me. Best regards to you Kevin and your family.

[@davidschwegman7539]

Wow! How right you are. I made the mistake of posting a question about people’s opinions of something I thought should have no controversy and it ended up being a showcase of argumentative people mixed with know it all’s, and a minor sprinkling of people with helpful suggestions. I was tempted to reply on numerous occasions”I forgot why I stopped posting on audio forums but thanks for the reminder that it’s just an exercise in self flagellation”. I refrained but so glad I came across your video. You are a voice of sanity in a sea of madness.

[@skylabsaudio]

Appreciate that, David!

[@tonnybech3778]

Philosophy and audiophilia in a beautiful union - you are in a league above - you have left plato's cave and see and show the rest of us the light - you are a lighthouse in a troubled dark sea - you are f...... unique🙏🏻

[@skylabsaudio]

Speechless 🙏

[@breckisaac5378]

Your channel is one of the more enjoyable ones…you come across well on camera. I think it’s the honesty and sincerity that makes it.

[@skylabsaudio]

Thank you, Breck!

[@harlest71]

Kevin I enjoy watching your videos for many reasons but the easiest ones are, No stupid intro music or video short, Sick of that. 2nd, you just say whats on your mind, Bammmm! Done. No fluff. Thanks for that. You mentioned in the Integrated Amplifier video how ( All Roads Lead to McIntosh) and that stuck in my head. Of course I've always drooled over them but figured it wasn't going to happen. For a while now (7years) I've owned a Marantz 2250B and loved it. Every time I listen to it I always think that it's just short of what I'm looking for. Well buddy, Thanks to your channel I decided to take the chance and find out. Saturday I took delivery of my first McIntosh MA 6100. I've spent the weekend going back and forth with an A/B panel I made, actually it's a ABCD panel but I'm only using two. WOW!!!! This is what I've been looking for!! So smooth and proud with the tightest bass, and the voices are just on another level. The cleanest amplifier I've ever heard. Thanks so much because if I wouldn't have found your channel I don't know how long it would have taken me to get here. I mention all of this because of what you said in this video about the ability to A/B different amplifiers and speakers. I've been doing that for years trying to find what I'm looking for. Thanks Skylabs.

[@skylabsaudio]

This makes me happy :)

[@TomTom-uv6xq]

I call this phenomenon “online beer muscles”. People are much bolder, to say the least, when not conversing in person. But hey, it’s great that people are passionate about audio right!? Kevin you made some tremendous points here. Thank you.

[@tomday7309]

I'm way late on this post, but your comments on FB are why I left the platform over 10 years ago. I found a few groups I liked and posted some of my "vintage" photos from my early days attending car races. I found one person taking the photos and posting them on sites outside of FB with no credit to me. I called him on it and he reacted as you would expect an idiot who doesn't care would act. That was enough to cause me to drop the account. That and the realization that FB doesn't care either about infringement. So I applaud your comments and look for more of your wisdom on why I spent a couple hundred dollars to fix my 50 year old Pioneer receiver just to have a decent radio and play CD's. The Technics turntable, Dynaco speakers and my vinyl went to my son long ago so he could create digital files for his iphone. And life goes on!

[@thejourney7395]

Enjoyed the truthful observations in your video. People online are more emboldened to be uncivil. Common courtesy dies there. My interest in the hobby has been reawaken thanks to your great videos! I have had the same set up for 44 years with zero regrets. Rock on!!! 😄

[@kyomori]

Although I will likely never visit your shop due to distance from where I live, I appreciate and support what you are doing. At this point, I am pretty set in what I like .. idler TTs through tube amps and BBC style speakers using Belden or whatever industrial cabling ... but my local audio shop helped me experience many different types of gear and setting techniques (not to mention some exotic music that I would not have listened to otherwise), which led me away from being too enticed by the hype machine (although I still do get caught sometimes...) and general audio-FUD. I will assume that your sincerity is helping other hobbyists gain similar experiences and insight. I enjoy your videos and appreciate what you do. Hope to be able to visit one day.

[@skylabsaudio]

Appreciate it, Kyosuke! Hope you are able to stop by someday :)

[@bpalpha]

Wow. You are a breathe of fresh air. The audio world is much like the automobile aficionados where it becomes a game of boasting. I'm going to check the thrift store for some equipment today.

[@richbarron2424]

Amen brother!!! Let's just enjoy the hobby that brings us happiness, be it audio, cycling, jogging, fishing, whatever. There's plenty for all of us and don't forget that life is short.

[@dustinrilcof2504]

Thought provoking ! I think we all need to realize that in any pursuit or ideology we need to practice acceptance. This is a journey and I know personally I have ended up on both sides of the vinyl vs cd debate it just depends where you are at this particular point in time. Always look for different view points or you are existing in a vacuum. Stay fluid! Enjoy the ride. Enjoy it all.

[@vwmountainman9701]

Very well said !!!! I have removed myself from & deleted several groups over the last several years from my many hobbies. Life is too short to deal with all the negativity. I will add - even tho - blank cables - sound better than - blank cables. We ALL have a budget that we are restricted to. Most of the Snob folks don't understand that. I really enjoy ur channel - wish u were closer. Thank you again !!!!

[@richardjones8777]

I just discovered your channel last weekend doing a search for the Sansui 9090. I did not expect to find too much about this piece of equipment. I was amazed at what I found . I purchased a Sansui system in 1976 while stationed at Clark Air Force Base. It was amazing then. Getting back to your channel... I got hooked! Your commentaries are thoughtful and insightful. I like the content and it is about real electronics that you could actually work on and repair. You describe yourself as being uncomfortable around groups of people. I understand that. Keep doing this. It is interesting!

[@jpobitzer]

Kevin, nothin' but luv for your channel. CANNOT wait for the collaboration video with you and Randy(cheapaudioman) covering his vintage Yamaha and vintage in general. Please keep it up.

[@JJKHaywood]

My Uncle a Co-owner of Small business Radio/Audio & TV store in the 1950’s until his death in 1965 @ 51 years old. He did Sales and service/repairs. I was only 6 years old at that time. He had a porcilean Victor/RCA Dog and old Victrola at his home. My Aunt gifted me His Little RCA repairman’s traveling tool box. It had little drawers for tubes and a few tools. He had a very nice sound system, built into the wall cabinets on each side of their fireplace. So cool.

[@multicyclist]

Really is great you sell in person only and not online for all the reasons you stated. I have loved audio all my life and good gear is good gear, regardless of the brand. Audio can be mostly subjective and suggestive. I wish people would not be so fanatical online about (their) audio opinions. Got tired of the nonsense of it all and don't visit forums anymore as well as I quit Facebook altogether and social media for over two years now. They all were a complete waste of time with zero value. I couldn't be happier.

[@mph7282]

People defend what they own. And you're spot on about them not wanting to admit they made a bad purchase. This is human nature. One of my other hobbies is woodworking, and I watch a lot of woodworking videos. I sometimes run across videos comparing and rating various tool brands. Everyone has an opinion and experience, and wants to hear the results of the test, but secretly they're just hoping that the brand they own doesn't come in last place in the test and thinking they should have bought the Dewalt instead of the Makita. It's the same in hifi, if we're honest..."my Pioneer blows away your Sanui...because that's the one I own". And maybe there are objective measurements that put one above the other for certain things, but mostly it's about affirmation of our preferences and decisions. Listen to what you want, how you want. Enjoy the music.

[@marccze7632]

There are no objective measurements. I dont say that mine set is the best but i really hate these I know it all snobs. There is a guy on a forum which Brags about his sansui. Everything other than sansui is sub standard or crap. And one Day buddy of mine went to this sansui dude to listen to his "Best of the Best" amp. And result? Buddy of mine said it wasnt Best at all, he wasnt moved by its sound etc 😁 So yeah i dont like this kind of snobs

[@alm5693]

Nothing sounded better than the stereo I had in the late 70's. Man, do I miss the hearing that I had back then.

[@semperfi-1918]

Very valid points. I bought my neighbors older speakers that im goona hook up to my tv later. But right now im using 60's speakers and maggi reciever/amplifier from vhs. Sounds very good for what i paid. Keep up the good work.

[@paulinboston]

Big Mind, Little Mind. It is impossible to talk a Little Mind out of anything. STOP TRYING! Five Things to Know About Online Bullies: 1. Over 70% of online bullies live in their parents basement; 2. More than 50% of online bullies don't own the audio equipment they claim they own; 3. Two words for online bullies: "chronic masturbators"; 4. Over 80% of online bullies are virgins; and, 5. Over 75% of online bullies are afraid of the dark.

[@SinnerSince1962]

Wow, you've done a lot of research there, Paul.

[@chubtoad157]

@@SinnerSince1962 especially on #3

[@edholmwood]

Great video. This is a topic that needs to be talked about. Like many things in life, everything has become so tribal. The audiophile world has been that way for years. Thank you.

[@davewallace8219]

there is not a hobby that doesn't have snobs....or insecure people...that hide within there hobby as a way to shield themselves from the real world...usually these people isolate there selves...fortunately...this is not the majority...thanks for your good work!

[@paulbennell3313]

My system probably isn't even worth £100. I have a fair number of old units (60's, 70's, 80's) and I swap things around fairly regularly but a lot of hi-fi types would most likely laugh at the gear I use. I don't care. When you're paying £20-£40 for an amp, there's no such thing as a bad purchase really as long as it either works or is repairable without cleaning yourself out. I have the advantage of being able to do the vast majority of repairs myself and parts are usually reasonably priced or often just downright cheap! I love tinkering with this stuff almost as much as I love blowing someone's mind with a pair of 55 year old speakers and then telling them I paid £10 for them... As for what some joker online thinks of my system, I simply don't care. Anyway, what I decide to do with my money and time is no one else's business.

[@DavidMontgomery1]

Good video! I think you’re definitely on to something. People have a lot of pent-up anger that they desperately want to release. And posting on the internet, spewing their bile out online, seems like a good idea. (Here’s a hint: it isn’t) I came over here from the video you did with @cheapaudioman. You do good work. I subscribed.

[@bobsmith3790]

I watch your videos partly because of your passion for audio. But I also watch because you present the subject you talk about with a very calming delivery. Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge about such a wonderful subject. Stay warm.

[@williamsarver2491]

As a former audio sales guy from 72 to 79 - and now at the age of 71 my thoughts 1- there’s a reason there are no college courses on CONSUMER audio gear 2- the stereo hobby as far as sound quality is mostly subjective by far 3- people follow trends in audio like crazy 4- audio sales people and manufacturers create very subjective hype and that’s all it is ( I did it myself ) 5- actual equipment comparison is extremely hard to accomplish with only one variable changed 6- don’t forget to enjoy the music and stop obsessing about equipment- at least after you had enough of looking for better upgrading 7- Never get tired of Cat Stevens albums

[@paulsartbarn]

#7 made me laugh!

[@GGray-gg4yn]

Lisa Lisa Sad Lisa...

[@brochg]

Great channel! I found my way over from your interview with Randy. I live about an hour East of the Quad Cities, and have a Pioneer SX780 that I'll likely bring your way sometime.

[@Sonny_V]

Audio: The "Food" Analogy is spot on. I always used the "Car" analogy..."That '71 Riviera is SO cool..." "you KIddin Me? That thing looks like Sh*t!" Eye, Taste, and Ear of the Beholder. I was always attracted to the Marantz receivers, but I couldn't tell the sound difference from a Pioneer. I just Loved the Look of the Marantz.

[@Kane26510]

I'm the exact opposite - I love the '71 Riviera, and I prefer Pioneer over Marantz. BUT - Everybody is different, so it stands to reason that everyone's taste will be different at well.

[@Sonny_V]

@@Kane26510 yeah I'm fan of that gen of the Riviera - had a pioneer pioneer qx 949 back when 'Quad' was a thing. It was a beast until it shorted out for no apparent reason. Ended up at the Goodwill as a fixer-upper. "Opinions Vary" - Dalton in Roadhouse

[@turbodog6729]

Really enjoy your videos. Agree that the anonymity provided by the internet gives license for a normal person to be an asshole.

[@cargo74f]

Thank you Kevin for your kind and thoughtful 'sermon'. I just started buying some old school hifi-stuff and love the sound even though it is not the perfect set by all means. I donot get involved in FB-groups as , like you said, there is too much aggression. I am not trying to duplicate the sounds of my youth ( I'm 71 years old ) but the sounds so far, on a low budget, really amaze me. Thank again, Kevin! From another introvert John

[@debilthomes501]

I was kind of bummed when I found out you did not do online sales. But hearing your reason for not doing so, I can totally respect that.

[@ceylonmooney]

it does get really bad. it gets just as crazy with online boxing discussions. the online boxing world is overrun with folks who dont appreciate or grasp the sport yet obsessively or reactively post on alll kinds of shit. theres also a whole community of bogus homemade youtube channels pumping out BS. i dont know about other sports, and i have a hard time imagining it, but online boxing discussion is overrun with the same BS that hifi is. its very hard to walk thru an online discussion about either witout stepping in shit constantly. i block a lot on social media. too tempted t engage if its ignorant and button-pushing. "its funny for a minute then it gets old" well said. i appreciate your healthy attitude, and i enjoy your videos.

[@Leb_-fv5gd]

Hi I just listened to your chat with Randall, loved it. Did as he suggested and here I am subscribed, and happy I did so. I totally agree with this video of yours. There is far too much negativity and one-upmanship on line. So much so that I no longer watch any of it. I must say that here in the UK it is not quite so combative. The only thing I'm interested in is QUALITY information laid out in front of me so that I can make my own judgement about how to use that information. Simple really. I love your common sense approach to life, that in itself is very refreshing. Keep it up you are definitely on the right track. I shall look forward to your next video whenever you decide to post it.

[@skylabsaudio]

Thank you! Appreciate that!

[@johnclintonmusicandmore]

Yeah I know what you mean about a month month and a half ago I went through all my Facebook pages and got rid of the ones that stressed me out. I was getting to the point where I didn’t even want to go online all these bad groups. and thank you for showing your gear at your store

[@blucomicguy8705]

You're doing a great job and service to the HiFi community. Don't second guess yourself! People are going to be subjective and narrow minded in what should be an objective hobby that should be fun. I believe, fortunately they are a minority but that shouts very loud. Thanks for your videos.

[@skylabsaudio]

Appreciate it!

[@raymondgarafano8604]

Yes Skylab, you like the human factor, I'd have preferred to buy my audio gear at a store with a person who not only knows his stock but loves talking about it and helping the customer get the system they want.

[@jackiecooley8812]

Hi Kevin I’ve enjoyed your videos it has renewed my interest in HiFi . I miss the days when you could go into a brick and mortar stereo shop. I’ve had a Onkyo home theater receiver it’s a nice receiver but for playing music it’s always been lacking. I purchased a Sansui 7070 from eBay God I love it has some balls! I told my wife last night if we’re ever in Des Moines we’re going to have to stop by your shop. Screw Facebook and those pissing contest!

[@primeanalogrecords]

Great video! Yes it’s all about the music and when it isn’t for some people they just wasn’t to be combative! I don’t play along since audio is all personal! Enjoy the hobby and if you can share experiences in a positive way go for it!

[@donjohnstone3707]

Thankyou for raising this very interesting topic. Learning about hi fi audio is a good way for anyone to learn about the subjective nature of sound and music reproduction and, in so doing, learn something interesting about our individual nature. It can help us to appreciate what it is we instinctively like and enjoy and perhaps understand better why we like certain things more than others. This introspective insight into what makes us who we are, as opposed to someone else, or what we might share in common with certain others, can be enlightening and valuable in getting to know ourselves and others better and help us in gaining more fulfilling experiences on our life's journey.

[@NoristheCat]

Makes me want to watch your channel more! Thank you for this heartfelt video!

[@alansylvia4276]

WOW! great video. I am a guitar playing, amp listening, amp building, A B sound checking tone monkey, and agree with you. I like myth busters too. Thanks!

[@rondickinson8741]

I'm over the road truck driver leaving in Fort Smith Arkansas with no brick and mortar stores to go to. I can't wait to come by and see your store, and please don't let online sales become more important than having a brick and mortar store thank you very much

[@skylabsaudio]

No worries, I don't ever see us changing how and where we sell our gear :)

[@oldschoolriverrat]

I have a saying about the differences between individual people that I wish others would accept as "truth". When it comes to tastes in food and drink, music, whom you're attracted to, vehicles, etc..."how do I know the color blue for you is the same color blue for me?" The point with that is why I like something is most likely going to come from experiences and perspectives that are completely different than someone else. So, why argue about it (especially in an online environment)? Life's too short for stuff like that. FYI, I have had a couple pieces repaired/refurbished by your store a couple years ago and I have two comments. One, the work was outstanding and both pieces are used near daily today trouble free and sound wonderful. And two, visiting your store was an outstanding experience and well worth the 250 mile round trip. I only wish that you were closer by so I could visit more often. Keep up the outstanding work, and I look forward to visiting next time I'm in the Des Moines area.

[@skylabsaudio]

Thank you so much for the feedback! Really appreciate it!

[@earflower]

Cheap Audio Man brought me here. There's an old Steve Martin comedy bit called "Googlephonics" that pretty much sums up all audiophiles.

[@philipketchum1407]

Music only exists in your head. Every instrument. Every voice. Every audio system only makes air vibrate. It’s not music. It’s just air moving. It’s not music until your individual ears, inside and out translates it from vibrations to neuro transmissions to your brain. At that point your brain interprets it into the music you hear. no matter if it’s CDs, LPs, amps, DACS, speakers or even cables if it sounds better to you in your head than it sounds better. Period. Every person hears and interprets it differently. There is no arguing with someone on what they hear and like. Not even measurements can tell you what someone hears And likes.

[@renebollengier1111]

Thanks for the video, you could apply this video to just about any subject in our modern world. We are all polarized to the point we can’t even talk about anything anymore. It’s even started to transcend to real life not just on line. People have lost there polite filter. As a side note I recently pulled my 1979 sansui au719 from its resting spot and all of its vintage accessories. Well most anyway. The speakers were just to big. I’m using some Bose 201’s. Love the whole setup, even my grandkids took notice. Love the channel, thanks. And yes I will visit your store and may even make it a destination in our motor home w my shorts and white socks.

[@skylabsaudio]

Sounds good!

[@rickyblair8802]

I fully agree with what you have said. I enjoy going to a brick and mortar stereo store and buying something rather than buying online but since there are so fewer stores than at one time .

[@anjovandijk9797]

your channel mirrors your personality which is great to watch, nothing said wrong you where spot on 👊

[@analogidc1394]

Enjoy your music and enjoy it on whatever equipment you have.

[@barncat64]

Great video with very valid points! At least, that’s my opinion! I do admit to putting some video’s on the large screen, getting my popcorn and enjoying the spectacle! Interestingly, a couple of same dealing with $$$ cables and how beneficial they are!😅 On a more serious note, please keep up the great content! I’ll make it to your shop eventually! Thanks!

[@peterhagglund9822]

100% Well said. Honest and True! Big thanks from a cold northern part of Sweden. :)

[@Rock-Pirate]

I have been watching you videos for a little while now and I swear you could be my brother from another mother! Thank you, take care! Dave, Reading, Pa. 😎☠️🏴‍☠️🤘

[@mr1enrollment]

Kevin, you have noticed that human beings absolutely HATE being wrong. It is fundamental, and is only moderated by noticing the fact. Kevin, your skepticism regarding cables is right on. But I do have cables for you only $1000. Kevin, you are the type of guy I would enjoy sitting back and enjoying some jazz with. Maybe some mind altering substance also. There I said it. LOL Keep up the videos, and relax - you do a great service being your laid back self.

[@jpaleas]

There’s division and hate in every subject not just audio and that is because we have freedom of speech and we neglect to exercise good manner, common sense and respect . I try to remind my self every day, because when passionate about a subject I can become a monster lol. I do not participate on Facebook public discussions with people I do not know and as a general rule unless I have something good to say I don’t say anything at all. And I admit this has been years in the making to not be that person 🤣🤣🤣 Now moving on to you, your channel and content, I cannot believe you’d have any negative comments! Your content is always informative, interesting and pleasant to watch! You’re knowledgeable and successful enough to own a hi fi / vintage audio business so I respect and appreciate All you have to say. If there’s ever something within the information you share with us that I feel different about or disagree, I might throw a question at you, but Definitely never an insult LOL. Even though it pains me I do understand why you do not do equipment shipping! I do understand shipping damage and packaging appropriately can easily eat away on your profit. So one day when my crazy busy lifestyle allows me I will travel and visit your store in person! Rest assured that your channel and your information is very well liked, there will always be ugliness but please remember It’s not about you and what you say, it’s about them been miserable folk! Thank you for the video!

[@redrocker7857]

Thank you! Big fan of vintage audio here!

[@poulpedersen359]

hmm you are totally right about the way people behave . i am 62 years old and have been an active vintage car and hifi fan for most of my life - i generally stay away from clubs , forums etc. as i do not want that kind of negativity influencing interests that should be full of joy and fun - it simply spoils the "thing" for me. it is rather sad as you would like to share this with others instead of doing it in solitude but sadly there is so much negative vibes going on that i just dont want to invite into my life, it just wear down the experience for me.

[@jimfarrell4635]

A great post. Entirely true and its relevance goes way beyond audio. Otherwise decent people who would probably be a delight to meet in real life can become absolute assholes on line. It's a forum which encourages our worst impulses to come out and play. Part of the problem is that people become desensitizes to the incivility and aggression online and it bleeds into their real world behaviour eventually.

[@carlitomelon4610]

Hi Jim. Fancy meeting you here?!? Looking for polite company;-)

[@nealm6962]

I love my vintage Marantz and JBL’s, but the best sound system I’ve ever had is a pair of keyboard amps and a mixing board. I think it’s all fun. Bang for the buck, that’s a different subject.

[@letstalk3265]

this is the same as people's taste in music or who's the best guitarist etc... . To each his own. I come to your channel because of the practical nature of your advice and your passion for what you and your mates do. I'm looking at a Kreisler Radiogram with a Garrard turntable from the 1960's. As a piece of furniture it's classic looking. This is the sort of stereo my parents had when WE kids started to play music too loud, according to them. Understandably Hendrix, The Stones, Slade, Led Zeppelin weren't their taste in music compared to Louis & Ella, Stephane Grappelli, Cleo Laine, Peggy Lee, Nat et al, but music is the universal language for cool. Thanks for being real cool.

[@skylabsaudio]

Thank you! Appreciate it

[@lotog692]

Exactly what I think. We develop a taste in many things when we are young and we have differently developed senses and that comes down to vastly different experiences. But because we agree on basic stuff, many ppl who don't self reflect think, that all our experiences are the same and then they absolutely don't understand why somebody else comes to a different conclusion in appearantly 'the same thing'. And then they bring it down to 'either you are right' or 'I am right', because they can't think that both are right, because of different viewpoints. And then they get defensive, because they feel challenged and if their social standing in the peer group (aka forum, facebook group or whatever) is at risk, they start to get toxic. Thats not a new phenomena, it just happens more easily online, because things get more easily toxic in a medium where social mechanisms don't apply. Means, if you get toxic in the shop, you got ot leave at best. At worst you'll catch a flying fist with your face. Online this can't happen. So some keyboard warriors get way more toxic here, than in real life. Not that I advocate for violence, but the chance of violence evens out some toxicity in real life, for sure. At least among men. And btw. that happens in many hobbies, where ppl invest a lot of time and social reputation (read: money spent) and social standing in a peer group (read: being an acknowleged expert) are at risk. Then it doesn't really matter, whether you talk about cars, wine, audio or stamp collecting ... things can get out of hand real fast. Unfortunately. And the solution is so easy, instead of trying to discuss others into your opinion, which doesn't work anyway, find ppl who have similar experiences with stuff you know and follow them, because most likely their impressions will be most helpful for you. I did that with wine, I now do it with audio. Helps me way more than discussing, whether wine should be oaked, or cables should cost XY. Quite a rant ... time for some music. Unfortunately the wine has to wait until later ... ;P

[@Nephilim-81]

I stay very clear from those forums. I recommend discord chats with a tighter nit community. :)

[@OGmolton1]

Forums, what happened? you used to be cool.

[@brunoespinosa5907]

You're doing great. The person to person sales is appreciated. Love and respect your knowledge. Can always pick up a tip or two. Keep it up sir. ♥️🎼

[@williamgilpin3693]

Amen brother, I used to be a tech and enjoy your videos. 👍👍

[@johnnytoobad7785]

Great video. Well said. Home audio "forums" and u-tube threads seem to have a boatload of misinformation combined with "Mr Knowitall" opinions. I was just recently reading a thread on Vinyl engine about stylus shapes and the arrogant "vitriol" went on for pages. And none of it seemed to answer my question.🥺

[@dylanemeraldgrey]

Whenever these discussions come up I always think about the number of variables involved. Once you start adding them up and consider the number of combinations possible, it seems pretty clear subjectivity is here to stay. I mean your own system can sound different to you from one day to the next, so that should tell people something about how contingent listening to something really is. Anyway, keep up the good work.

[@dylanemeraldgrey]

@Douglas Blake Talk about a variable... ;)

[@dylanemeraldgrey]

@Douglas Blake So many variables... Thanks for the reply. - Cheers

[@emeeul]

Does weather influence sound? My systems always sound different depending on humidity and temperature.

[@cnhhnc]

Couldn't agree more. I've been a member of various audio groups, attended their festivals and pretty much gotten along with the members face to face, but when the debates rage online, I'm outta there. Can't believe how fanatical they all become. Really. I'll admit, I'm a skeptic when it comes to a lot of Hi-End myths. But, I don't categorically rule them out. Just hard to believe some things that run counter to logic and experience. Also, in the last few years I've drifted away from these sites, mostly because there are some people who are detestable, or there to show you HOW MUCH THEY KNOW AND YOU DO NOT, lol. Whatever floats your boat Dudes! And, some sites lapse into POLITICS, that's the WORST, when the good 'ol boys roll out their righteous sanctimony and everyone else is, you know, lol. So to be honest, I haven't frequented those forums for years. And that's sad. Because there is a lot of knowledge there. But at what cost? Audio EGO, POLITiCAL EGO, competitive EGO. Give it a break. You all know that face to face no one would put up with that, right? So, it's nice to see someone who is more reserved and humble. That's refreshing!

[@tgrupp1247]

Well said!! Hope to stop in the store someday. We have a place here in Tucson called the Hifi workshop and I know you would be fast friends with them. 😊

[@marcstull4203]

Your Humility and kindness is the reason.

[@traildoggy]

Makes me sort of glad to be too poor to care about that crap. Long before I ever consider a $750 cable I'll be spending that on truck tires or paying off last year's vacation. Instead of wanting some ultimate piece of gear I'm happy being amazed how nice of a sound can be bought these days for a few hundred bucks total. Sure, I'd like (and will buy) some nicer equipment along the way, but as long as I'm paying more attention to the music than the system, I think I'm in a good space.

[@runepedersenDK]

Introverts are generally both more intelligent and nicer than extroverts - very easy to see on youtube.

[@zekek.9468]

You just made me laugh so hard with your fight club soap analogy. Good one Kevin.

[@jmfloyd23]

Been there. I’m cordial online with my comments. I steer away from bashing and negativity. If someone asks my opinion on something, I’ll give it to them without degrading the person. I don’t want to be “that guy”

[@karaDee2363]

As usual, your thoughts are spot on, at least with my way of thinking too... I totally agree.... Opinions about audio gear is much like food, everyone's taste buds are different... Was l seeing things, $750 speaker cables?... If so, all I'm going to have to say about that is there's no way in hell I would ever spend that kind of money on some stupid wire...lol I would love to hang out at your store, but since you're in Iowa and I'm in Massachusetts, I don't think that's going to be happening anytime soon.... But it's good to know that you a have a place customers can go to.... Stay warm and take care..

[@oscarvieitez8772]

It is a pleasure to hear people keeping this hobby the way you do. Respect!

[@DavidSchroeter]

Thanks Kevin... great food for thought! I'm really glad that Randy recommended your channel. Greetings from Dubai.

[@skylabsaudio]

Thank you, David

[@gime3steps]

Man, so true on all fronts of audio forums. Had some good experiences and some real bad ones, some for just asking a tech a question. The guy unloaded on me, granted it was pm, but for hellsakes dude chill the hell out. Said he usually sends a nasty gram, to busy for pms, then take a break, your only on there to satisfy your knowledge having it posted on a thread and everyone on there can see your the true expert in the technical world. Lost any respect for the dude and he can pound sand!

[@davewallace8219]

I'm old....I was there in the early...70s. I took a break following the decline of the silver faced era ...it was fun then .... now 40 years later I'm back .. solid ...into the hobby ...yes back into the silver faced era....its just as much fun now! it's like I never left...de ja vue....all over again!!!

[@skylabsaudio]

Love it!

[@chadsteinacker7948]

Really appreciate your approach, attitude, and content!!! Good stuff man.

[@KWE.ECLECTIC]

IMO a perfect system is unachievable, being that sound will always be subjective. I truly see no need to chase a perfect system, as my meager system works extremely well for me. Would I like to try something different in the future? Maybe, but just out of curiosity and for the fun of it. In the long run, this is just a hobby and for me it is not a life altering event.

[@puttyputty123]

When I got back into this hobby some years ago I was really taken aback with all the different camps, the "hatred" and the condemning personal characterization of people if you didn't agree on certain things. I don't think people who are into audio are anymore crazy than those who are into cars, movies, stamps, or whatever but it has sort of become viewed as a weird hobby much because people within the hobby treat each other so badly. It is just audio, we are not solving anything important. Just have fun. If you get into the "right" communities where obvious things like having good manners, an genuine interest in the hobby and most of all fun I think it can be a nice rewarding hobby. Nothing wrong with a good debate, but all too often it becomes just cesspit - especially online (of course, where else do people behave that badly?).

[@montanalou7711]

I blame it on politics.

[@harlest71]

I find that social media platform FRIEND FACE to be the worst for all the haters. Lately I stay off of it.

[@421CentralIowa]

Those of us in the area appreciate your desire to continue keeping a brick and mortar presence. You should be charging for the smell of warm vintage audio equipment when you walk in. It's winter now, so I'm sure I'll be in soon.

[@garynettles5919]

I enjoy your videos and I agree with you about the audio snobs who troll the sites. I love music always have since a young kid I love it loud I love to feel my music as much as hearing it. And your 100% correct it’s all subjective it’s what sounds good to your ears I love all audio equipment from the golden era I have it displayed like art. Functional art looking at them now as I right this. Keep it fun help people out so they can enjoy. I have my kids friends who are all in their 30s know getting back into vintage stuff so I put together small systems for them I am happy just to turn them on to it. My wife thinks I am crazy well some guys collect trains. Lol anyway wish I was closer to you so I could visit your store nice to know there are people like myself who have the passion for this stuff. Gary from Long Island.

[@johncameron6289]

I wholeheartedly agree with you. The best camera is the one I have with me. The best audio system is the one in my room. It’s about the music, I believe. Thanks.

[@CapitolForest]

I found great hi-fi community in an online forum. Not on FB. FB and social media focused types have become too toxic to be saved, regardless of the topic.

[@CadetBoneSpurs]

And they (social media sites) are designed to reward hostility and clicks….for eyeballs to advertisers… Not info and truth.

[@Bozakky]

Nicely done. I couldn't agree with you more on everything stated. Bravo!