The UK GOVERNMENT LIED about ELECTRIC CARS - REACTION

[@MiniMicroMan1]

He has been going on about the depreciation for months and how much money he has lost. The fact is that it was purchased on a lease type rental plan and all he has to do is hand it back and walk away at the end of the agreement. He says the charging system in the UK is rubbish but he has driven thousands of miles trying to prove it. In actual fact he has gone over the agreed mileage allowance and will have to pay a penalty when the car is handed back. As for the brown letter it is just to say EVs will have to pay road fund tax to maintain the condition of the roads. As an EV owner I think its totally fair. Its all click bait 🤣

[@hmallett]

@@MiniMicroMan1 Yes, I couldn’t believe that he could spend that kind of money without understanding the basics of the finance product.

[@MrLikerBiker]

Calling it (VED Vehicle Excise Duty) road fund tax implies it directly funds roads. It doesn't, it just goes into general taxation. Only A roads and motorways are funded by the government, all other roads are maintained by local councils through council tax. VED is a fee you have to pay to use the roads. Perhaps a fairer system would be a charge per mile (for a car types). So if it was 1.5pence per mile , after 10,000 miles (miles in a year) it would raise £150. A big advantage to this is because it is a cost per mile it encourages you to use your car less, which is a good thing. Whereas, VED is a flat fee no matter how much you use you car.

[@HowardLeVert]

@@MrLikerBiker I really wish people would read your comment and actually understand it - I get so tired of telling people that "road tax" or "road fund licence" ceased around 1936 and that the roads in the UK are funded in EXACTLY the manner you describe! If I could 'like' your comment more than once, I would.

[@andyhamilton]

This guy complained about the car soo much, range, charging speeds etc. Porsche took him in and showed him how to use preheating etc properly. After that his next trip was 3000 miles and charging went perfect. He had a letter to say he had driven more miles than his lease allowance, a car which is not suitable for long distance apparently has driven too many miles. The charger he is using is the most expensive in the uk. His narrative wouldn’t work if he charged at home.

[@Joe-lb8qn]

Macmaster a few years ago "its terrible that EVs don't contribute to the roads they drive on" Macmaster now "its terrible that EVs contribute to the roads they drive on"

[@DaleSteel]

And...?

[@nfzeta128]

@@DaleSteel and lack of consistency and showing they're just a grifter.

[@BooBaddyBig]

They still don't. The vehicle tax only pays for the paperwork for the tax.

[@peterwright4656]

He never had the $150,000 it was a leased car that is now worth $50,000 so he is angry that he lost $100,000 and he can't afford to sell it, He is not very bright if he did not see this coming.

[@djhvideo]

He doesn't own it so doesn't have to take the hit by selling it

[@DaleSteel]

ITS NOT LEASED YOU FOOL.

[@matthewdowning6009]

There is absolutely no way he won’t get another EV. He is making far too much money talking nonsense about them.

[@djhvideo]

@@matthewdowning6009 His problem if he buys another EV would be the loss of credulity he would suffer. When the car's PCP lease runs out he will give the car back. He loves Porsche but a 911 or similar wont make the income from the videos so he will grudgingly take on another Taycan. (Or better still an electric Macan)

[@kevinmair7571]

​@@djhvideohe will say he was forced to buy a new ev, probably by NASA 😂

[@colinnich]

STOP PRESS indeed - upcoming vehicle tax for EVs was announced at least a year ago

[@pamelamorgan2535]

Electric Classic Cars did a great debunk of this guy on their KZbin channel. He just blatantly lied that there weren’t any chargers anywhere near and the truth was there were loads just behind him, and he knew it.

[@ElectricClassicCars]

Yep, we caught him out blatantly lying. I’m surprised he’s still going. 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@makemebad1978]

He explained about that in the follow up vid, they were chargers that he’d have to move from a few hours later, which after being in the restaurant drinking would be illegal.

[@ryanfraley7113]

@@ElectricClassicCarsYou earned a subscription from me because of that video. Greetings from across the pond.

[@robertimrie3710]

​@@ElectricClassicCars👍 👍 Of all the "EV bad" guys McMaster is the only one who is strangely likeable in a Arthur Daily kind of way. He should drive a Jag iPace. It helps promote his Fish n Chip videos.😮 🍔

[@craighuddy5351]

McMaster fell into this with another channel called Geoff buys cars, they’ve found the anti EV content very profitable so they produce a lot of it. Most of it is completely laughable but their subscribers lap it up. It’s a massive circle jerk.

[@ziploc2000]

I briefly subscribed to both but I got tired of their constant anti-EV venom, now they're both blocked. I hadn't realized just how much padding there is in a MacMaster video, he's getting clicks and view time for just eating a sandwich, amazing what people will watch.

[@gazzaman28]

@@craighuddy5351 Yeh Geoff buys cars keeps appearing on my feed, he's utterly obsessed with EV values, how sales figures are apparently massaged (which definitely never happened before EVs were a thing, honest!!) I just can't even with this sort of thing, life's too short to get annoyed.

[@Brian-om2hh]

@@gazzaman28 It's easy to block a channel on KZbin, after which you never see it again.....

[@kevinmair7571]

We always knew car tax was coming sooner or later.

[@st200ol]

Not only that, it’s been known for a year in the UK but Lee published this video a few weeks ago like the news was hot off the press.

[@Ronick-Q-46]

Don't believe that for one minute, you all believed the 💩the government were saying.

[@Trifusion1]

Is £20 a year for my EV. This guy probably spends that on his average Greggs trip.

[@paulrice5922]

So in the UK electric cars are exempt from paying annual road tax. There are loads of different rates but since 2017 all cars pay a flat rate every year with an additional premium for cars costing over £40,000 for the first 5 years. This change was announced over a year ago and means that owners of EVs will pay the same as petrol cars do after April 2025. For me, that is roughly £190 per year. I have not had to pay that for the last 2 years, but if I had a petrol car I would have. So this guys argument is that you shouldn't buy an electric car because something is free now, but will cost the same as everyone else in the future.

[@AndyInTheUK]

Yes - you are right Paul, but this isn't about him. It's just another excuse for people who are propelled by small non-reversible explosions NOT to switch to an EV. I was pretty angry to get that letter too, not because of the suggested cost (I think I can afford it), but because it's going to provide an excuse for everyone still driving about in their expensive rapidly-depreciating gas-guzzling 4x4 not to go electric.

[@Trifusion1]

If your EV is old enough it’s only £20 a year going forward too. My Nissan leaf falls under that. Might as well still be free.

[@marvinsamuels1237]

The MacMaster is one of the most annoying posters out there. I think he was inspired by Scotty. He buys the most expensive EV out there and then complains about range, depreciation and cost of ownership. Spends a lot of time spreading misinformation and there are a lot of people who lap it up; confirmation bias at play.

[@NigelP21]

well said, annoying is the best description.

[@jonathanwest624]

He plays to the anti EV segment in the UK and they just lap it up, I do wonder if he actually loves his EV but he knows what his viewers want to hear and what gets the clicks. Hopefully that dinosaur crowd will dwindle away soon

[@jsanders100]

When you read the comments his followers make you really see the level of ignorance there is. Conspiracy theories false information and lies throughout.

[@dougwebb917]

I think MacMaster is just creating content to profit from KZbin. He gets plenty of views and gets a nice little profit. It's brilliant what he's doing because he pretends to not like EVs but in reality he does like it. He is just profiting from the anti ev audience who watch his videos.

[@marvinsamuels1237]

@ yeah, maybe those who watch his FUD are the ones we should be annoyed by 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@smc812]

He found out that he could get lots of views making up negative stories about EVs that are clear nonsense. There's no point complaining, that just gives him more views which is all he wants. His delivery is optimised for his audience. Blame KZbin for creating a system that rewards this kind of thing.

[@sportysp]

@@smc812 the dude is having the time of his life. Driving an electric porsche, nagging a bit for fun, getting paid for posting it

[@truebrit3670]

Exactly this. Spot on. I know this guy. He loves he EV. He absolutely loves it. It's all about the revenue from KZbin.

[@DaleSteel]

How you work that. He loved the car at beginning but slowly realised they are terrible. Perfectly normal behavior

[@truebrit3670]

@DaleSteel congratulations on believing everything you see on the Internet.

[@murfmac9197]

@@smc812 he was at the charge station Carlisle ionity, him and his other EV hating (allegedly) mate Geoff buys cars. I got talking to him, pretending I didn’t know who he was and he explained that he loves the Porsche but those videos don’t make money, and he’s now teaming up with other KZbinrs to do the same to make money. He also said he would keep the Porsche as it a fantastic machine and replace it with another EV but he’s planning on using the excuse that he doesn’t have a choice due to the government

[@CaptainProton1]

I apologise for my fellow Brit being an arse about EV's, he is sore because he bought a Porsche Taycan for silly money and it's lost most of its value. Too much car not enough house that one.

[@djhvideo]

But all the time due to his PCP (Personal Contract Purchase) he is immune from the depreciation so that part is a non story. High depreciation will benefit the next owner.

[@iambenmitchell]

@@djhvideo ... thats not how PCP works. You're still paying deprecation with PCP, it's part of the monthly price you pay

[@GruffSillyGoat]

@@iambenmitchell - not quite, when there are big shifts in the depreciation of a given vehicle model. In these cases the interest rate and balloon value having been fixed at time of contract then it's the next set of buyers of that model who fund the depreciation loss for the previous vehicles sold (normally via adjusment of the balloon values, the interest rates are still used to attract sales).

[@terryquarton2523]

Hey can you take back mguy please Hes a whinging pommie here in Australia. Calls himself an electric engineer and hates evs.

[@vicvalliant1092]

@@iambenmitchell If that is correct for this guy that means he signed up for it when he bought it so its not a surprise and nothing to moan about or is he boasting?

[@mathewherges397]

Wow, just wow. He's like listening to a 4 or 5 year old kid trying to explain something that happened. They'll start you down that road but get distracted by things that either aren't important to what happened or aren't even related in any way.🤦‍♂

[@cJ-cr8gp]

@@mathewherges397 I agree with you Mathew. This Ben Sullins idiot is talking nonsense. Usual idiot yank eh? Lee has figured it out and is absolutely correct. Milk floats are not the future. I’m with you mate. Let’s burn more oil. Cheers

[@robertdunsmore]

The men here in the UK who model their whole brains after Jeremy Clarkson is a real problem. It's a mental health crisis amongst men of certain age, comfortable income level and access to too much internet.

[@OrdinaryWorld]

Indeed. Clarkson is an entertainer at best. He shouldn't be relied on for lifestyle choices, philosophy or political advice.

[@Scott_M]

Maybe it’s men that can think for themselves rather than being part of a cult like you.

[@dandy5091]

@@OrdinaryWorld There seems to be a lot of Jeremy Clarkson clones. Not a good look for you Brits.

[@danielcooper6423]

What a brain dead comment

[@EbenBransome]

@@dandy5091 Are you from the country of funny red hats advertising fascism by any chance? Or the one that hasn't got a car industry any more since you allowed GE to take government money and then shut Holden? The entire English speaking world with the possible exception of Canada is a bit of a bad joke at the moment.

[@ItsKimJava]

Love that line. Let them know “the facts don’t care about their feelings” 😂

[@Jaw0lf]

He moans about everything to do with an EV even though he owns one. On a road trip to prove a point, he will charge at the slowest rate he can and to 100% and moan about how long it takes. We all know 80% is the sweetspot. Also in the UK this change was announce 2 years ago and unfortunately for first time includes older car, so EV's up to 7 years ago.

[@AndyInTheUK]

Yes - I own one too. I didn't know that the Government was going to introduce a tax when I bought it. Feel like a stab in the back for doing the right thing. But worse - it's another excuse for EV haters NOT to go electric. This is a backwards step.

[@GruffSillyGoat]

@@AndyInTheUK - the tax has always been there for BEVs they were just exempted for a period. It was always clear even eight years ago when I bought my first EV that the arrangement was temporary till BEVs in the took off. As BEV's now represent 1 in 5 new car purchases in the UK it's not that unexpected the tax was due to be introduced; with the change notified well over a year ago.

[@xxwookey]

More than 7 years ago - it includes my scooter from 2007.

[@ecoess]

The government did state EV’s were going to pay road tax from 2025 sometime ago. No new news! In the UK we would refer to him as a Knob ( the polite version). Keep up the great work Ben

[@AndyInTheUK]

Yes, but after I'd already bought an EV. Actually I don't think the vehicle tax will be a problem. It's an excuse for EV haters not to go electric. I am more annoyed about the cost of charging. 85p per kWh! Seriously? The Government needs to put an energy price cap on Instavolt, BP Pulse, Ionity, Shell Recharge and 200 other suppliers. I am very sure they don't pay 85p per unit, and I bet it is much cheaper to set up a charging station than a petrol station. They could even allow a small premium for EV chargers that offer 100% sustainable power to get people moving in the right direction.

[@Scott_M]

I think it’s people like you that’s the knob (not the polite version) and a brown nose as well.

[@natehill8069]

Isnt this the yobbo who left his hybrid plugged in at a charging station for an entire workday (thus idle for ~8 hours) and bitched about how much the electricity cost (since 98% of it was idle penalty)?

[@makemebad1978]

@@natehill8069 no, he’s never had a hybrid.

[@BasketCase]

@@natehill8069 No. Not him.

[@natehill8069]

@@BasketCase Oops my bad.

[@RobertLogan]

He is a moron. I own an EV, in Scotland, where the Scottish Gov (the SNP/Green one) provided an interest free loan to purchase, and have a public charging network that is everywhere and well maintained. This guy is a total oil shill.

[@makemebad1978]

That’s Scotland, we don’t have great charging down south, it’s extortionate and sparse, if you can’t charge at home there’s no point in having an ev

[@DaleSteel]

Oh yeah. Interest free and you've still lost a fortune. Loon.

[@Scott_M]

@@RobertLogan That SNP/Green government you speak of would happily see people out of cars (electric or otherwise) Thankfully the Greens are now no longer part of that government, although they still do the occasional bending over for the SNP to give them what they want.

[@memyselfandi8544]

@@RobertLogan He said it was about control, and these are the folks that always accuse others of what they are doing. Establishment = Freemasons.

[@RedDucRider]

@@RobertLogan that's pretty phenomenal. Tesla offers 0% interest on occasions but only for people with good credit. I guess if you have terrible credit, maybe financing a brand new car at that price is a bad idea anyways.

[@MikeF1sher]

What he's doing is paying for his Porsche by posting as much negative crap about EVs as he can. If he hated his car so much, why would he pay > £100K for it, and still own it? The truth is he doesn't hate his car at all. He goes out of his way to make things look as negative as possible - but has been debunked by various other youtubers many many times. (Richard Morgan of Electric Classic Cars, "TheGrouchThatBarx" to name a couple.) Ignore him, that's the best way to get rid of trolls - they feed off your attention.

[@CaptainProton1]

He has it on hire purchase I think

[@djhvideo]

@@CaptainProton1 Personal Contract Purchase with fixed monthly payments where he is immune from depreciation.

[@pinkelephants1421]

Yeah. A friend and I came to pretty much the same conclusion last week about this disingenuous plonker.

[@leemitchell3302]

Came across this guy when I was researching EVs… worked out he was a grifter very quickly! He basically bought an expensive EV and was horrified by the depreciation on it, made a video complaining which got traction and has been anti EV ever since! He spouts utter nonsense

[@marky147]

He's the only reason I have an EV. Was obvious he was full of shit, as didn't seem possible that life with one could be so difficult. I'd never even looked at one, but thanks to his disingenuous content, I'm 5 months into my first EV, and won't ever go back to an ICE car again 🤣

[@leemitchell3302]

@ very similar to me, the crap he was talking was just non sensical… brought into focus just how much EV disinformation is out there. Like you, wont ever go back to an ICE car!

[@nfzeta128]

An expensive EV from a known luxury brand. Other than certain models with reputation everyone knows luxury vehicles depreciate fast and EVs also depreciate fast.

[@Brian-om2hh]

He *didn't* buy it, he leased it....

[@Brian-om2hh]

@@marky147 An excellent character assessment there, if I may say so.....

[@mikegipson1224]

They're just Fossil Fuel Schills who just pedal FUD all the time... Simples EV hater same as the one who wants to borrow an EV for six months,,,

[@DaleSteel]

You sound like a EV schill

[@Scott_M]

Fossil fuel schills! 😂 Sounds like you’ve been brainwashed by the save the planet brigade!

[@DavidMantell-ti9nm]

UK road tax has been exempt for EVs but from April 2025 they will become liable to the same tax as ICE vehicles. Just show how popular EVs have become

[@allun1345]

There is a common misconception that vehicle tax goes into the upkeep of the roads. This is not true in the UK at least.

[@TheKnightsShield]

Here in the UK, road maintenance is paid for by council tax and also general taxation, whereas, vehicle tax, is paid based on engine size and the amount of emissions they put out. Vehicle tax in the UK is quite often mistakenly called "road tax", as it once was called, but it was replaced in 1937 with what we have today, vehicle excise duty, which as I said before, is paid based on engine size and amiunt of emissions. There are tons of videos on KZbin where UK motorists have a go a cyclists and often they say things like "I pay road tax" or "no pay, no say" whenever cyclists pull them up for doing stupid things while driving. It's kind of sad that drivers in the UK don't understand what they are paying for when they come out with nonsense like that.

[@HowardLeVert]

Well said.

[@kalebdaark100]

I first came across a MacMaster video maybe a couple of years ago. In it he was complaining about how it was impossible to charge his Porsche at the public charger he was at because the cable was too short. But the video clearly showed to anyone who has ever used a charger that he hadn't driven all the way into the bay therefore the cable was never going to reach. I pointed this out in the comments and then after a moments thought blocked him. After watching this video, I believe I made the right choice.

[@smc812]

Yeah, the one I watched he was claiming to be locked in his Porsche because the battery was flat so the doors wouldn't open. It was clear he was deliberately not operating the door handles to the point where the mechanical opening operated. When this was pointed out he said it didn't work, but never mentioned again taking it to Porsche to be repaired. Its all just a performance that's clearly nonsense, blocked.

[@jimwhook]

@@kalebdaark100 I blocked this mac whatever also. He painful. I love my EV and it only cost me 15k after trade in 😅 Imagine paying 150k for something you don't like 🤣

[@tommycollier9172]

Boomer here and motor head, even I know EV's are the future can't wait too own one...

[@dvader3263]

At least 60 years of age. It's about time to get an EV. Not getting any younger!

[@bryanduncan6178]

Just a bit of background on Mr Mac.... He used to be the Director of 3 different graphic design companies, all have gone bust! The last one went 'bust' just after Covid, I enquired whether he had claimed money from the government during the pandemic and he promptly blocked me! (a number of companies claimed Covid support and then went 'bust' before they could pay it back!)

[@Brian-om2hh]

It appears you got your answer then..... I had heard he had been involved in marketing in a previous life......

[@oldgit15]

He's someone who's worked out a way of getting people who hate EVs and loathe Porsche drivers to pay for his Porsche EV. He's obviously a complete muppet as well, but he's a complete muppet with a free Porsche. What a world...

[@darrens3]

They're grifters, and those types are absolutely everywhere now. Its like they're procreating in the walls.

[@ziggarillo]

His followers are muppets, he's just tapping into their ignorance. Very astute.

[@TanksRock]

I have an MG4 and would never have considered a charger at a Porsche garage would be for anything other than Porsche EVs. And the early Tesla chargers have exactly the same exemption as they can't retrofit the card payment and screen stuff so are Tesla only. I've not been anywhere near a newer Tesla open to all site but wish they were more common as much cheaper than the competition

[@HeavyDevy89]

Utterly GOBSMACKED that this knob has 200k people subbed listening to his bull. It's INSANE the mental gymnastics this guy has to go through to show that..... yeah you're just being treated like EVERYONE ELSE.

[@joeking433]

There are a LOT of people beholden to the gasoline and ICE car industry!

[@HowardLeVert]

@@joeking433 No, just remember that given how IQ is measured, it makes 50% of the population of below average intelligence.

[@truebrit3670]

Macmaster is an EV enthusiast. He loves his EV. But negativity pays his mortgage. And telling people not to get an EV makes it cheaper for him. Less sdopters = cheaper taxes. Hes a shill. Its all about the money.

[@patrick7228]

It would appear these days it's a lot easier to gain wealth and power spreading misinformation than facts. Think of all the time saved not having to really care if what your saying is true. Just jump around and be angry. Seems to be an easy con and at least worth trying if your primary objective is money.

[@djtaylorutube]

Seems to have worked for Trump

[@pinkelephants1421]

Also seems to work in politics. Donald Trump has done that three times now and managed to successfully get himself elected as president of the USA. Here in the UK, the Conservative Party did pretty much the same thing, resulting in Brexit, plenty of immigration hoo-ha, and no end of nimbyism surrounding renewable energy infrastructure, all pretty much based on absolute twaddle.

[@elviswsjr]

Your videos remind me of SciManDan who debunks flat earthers, except you debunk anti-EV FUD. Love it!

[@BenSullinsOfficial]

He’s on my Mount Rushmore!

[@tryhardfpv5351]

It's £190 for EVs registered after April 1 2017. If registered before that then £20.

[@jamesp.1784]

What about the "expensive car" premium? I'm expecting to be hit with a £600 total bill😞

[@simhedgesrex7097]

In the UK it was traditionally the case that Tesla Chargers only worked with Teslas. However, recently they have started to open to non Teslas. The government is now requiring all new chargers installed to be able to paid for using a contactless card. Quite why this would mean that Porsche chargers would stop charging Mercedes I have no idea - it doesn't sound sensible. As for the "Electric Vehicle Tax" (currently zero) we've known for a long time that it would start to affect EV cars in due course, I bought my first EV a few weeks ago, and I was well aware that this was coming. As for availability of chargers, there are between 1500 and 2000 new public chargers being installed in the UK every month. The cost of public charging is an issue for those people who can't charge at home (making an EV more expensive to charge than it would be to fuel a petrol car), but charger availability is improving all the time.

[@RepRapper]

I guess he could buy a gas/petrol car and pay the road taxes that way? I don't see how this is any different? So what he's really mad about is paying taxes.

[@rabsrealm]

He has a home charger as he's shown it on earlier videos but that doesn't suit his narrative. He's currently riding the youtube algorithm gaining views and likes from gammon faced middle aged people who despise anything that's new. That's his demographic. We all knew that the free VED for electric cars would come to an end. I've had 10 years of zero VED (Vehicle Excise Duty). From next year I'll pay £190 per year like everyone else that owns a car. Big deal, we were always told it wouldn't be forever. No lies were told by the government. They were quite clear about it. MacMaster is a disingenuous man with a fork in a world of soup.

[@djhvideo]

Yes he has a home charger. Taycan can go 200 miles or more between charges. He is often shown charging his car but rarely do we see charge levels. I reckon some charging sessions at busy sites are done to "prove?" that the charging infrastructure is not fit for purpose

[@CRhodesDesign]

Charger at his ex wife’s … sorry ‘the office’

[@f.robertfalbo9800]

Just a note - Tesla's chargers in the EU were not originally open to other brands, but due to EU regulations Tesla opened up their chargers one Country at a time.

[@djhvideo]

Not all Tesla chargers in UK are open to others but more are opening up as time goes on.

[@BenSullinsOfficial]

Thanks for the note. They started opening them up a few years back right? It’s a totally new thing here

[@f.robertfalbo9800]

@@BenSullinsOfficial Yes. The EU standardized on CCS-2 as a requirement but the US,...meh!

[@buckles29]

@@BenSullinsOfficial Hi Ben - Yes the Tesla network started opening up to non-tesla drivers about 2.5 - 3 years ago now, but it's a limited selection of the sites so far approx 20% I'd say. The newer charging sites are using the V4 superchargers, but most of them are still the V2 or V3 style chargers , which don't have a payment screen etc. The 'new legilation' that the macmaster was refering to means that all charging units "open to all" drivers must include the ability to pay with just a credit/debit card & not require the use of an app. This means that some of the older Tesla sites (V2./V3) might have to revert back to being Tesla only. I guess the same restriction may cause some dealer based chargers ( like the porsche one he was at) - to close to open-to-all public charging. I don't see this as a great problem, as I've never wanted/needed to use a charger at a dealership - we have plenty of fully available public chargers from providers such as Gridserve, Ionity, Instavolt & Osprey to name a few.

[@truebrit3670]

Government letter is saying he needs to pay VED if he taxes after April 1st. Its £190. However he can retax in march for £0. The newly appointed government are looking at this. Its pretty certain that by April 2026, the EV will be the lowest cost transport by tax.

[@peterkn2]

7:40 My guess is that he was promised some incentive like cheap EV charging but he can't apply it at this charging station

[@marky147]

I used to watch his videos for food recommendations in Tenerife, as I was planning to go back to visit. Then his channel took a segue into EV content, where it just appeared he was making his life as difficult as possible, and it couldn't possibly be the reality. Sure enough, a bit of investigation, and it was obvious he was clickbaiting the gullible to foam about EVs. Just happened to be the same time I was due to change cars, and having never even given them a thought, I ended up swapping to an ID.4, and couldn't be happier with the change.

[@eddewhurst7662]

Some clarification needed. Many Tesla charge points in the U K allow non Tesla's but not all. The new government legislation now mandates all DC fast chargers have to allow contactless payment without an app. Not before time, you find a charger and have to download app before charging. What nonsense, welcome legislation. In the UK all service stations have to clearly display fuel prices. This should also apply to EV charges

[@AndyInTheUK]

Yes - that's correct. It was getting pretty annoying having to install yet another App on my phone in order to charge the car at a new charging point. I 100% agree about displaying prices. That's so annoying. You plug in and start charging and THEN it tells you it's costing 85p per unit. That's if you can find a little box thing in the distant corner of a supermarket car park.... I don't think I can face trying a Tesla charger on my non-Tesla. Tesla seems to have got it right yet again. Drive up. Plug in. Drink coffee for 10 minutes. No bank cards or Apps. Drive away. Why are other car manufacturers so slow to get themselves sorted out?

[@eddewhurst7662]

@@AndyInTheUK You will need the Tesla app though as they are excused the contactless payment requirement.

[@android01978]

I think Macmaster is a scammer. He does the ‘I have proof of’ then rambles for 10 minutes before introducing the proof which takes a couple of minutes. It’s all about extending his watch time.

[@kenanderson8506]

The other day he went to a pub, he ordered a pint, the landlord said what's that, he said it's beer, the landlord said no it's not that's just a myth.

[@rhinous1199]

Bought my first Tesla one week ago. Model Y. Showed it to my bro. He liked it so much we drove three hours each way yesterday and he bought his own. People are sleeping on Teslas. Thanks for your channel. I send people to you to help separate fact from fiction.

[@AlanTov]

Who on earth is giving Musk their money? Just bizarre.

[@Yorkshire-z5v]

@@AlanTovTake a look at everything you own , spot the made in China? Enough said.

[@iambenmitchell]

HAHAHAA omg the MacMaster and GeoffBuysCars are some of the biggest trolls in the UK, they go out of their way to make EVs look as bad as possible, using some of the most expensive EVs and charging networks, comparing against a 20 year old clapped out BMW etc. Its just stupid

[@alibro7512]

You missed commenting on the 42 minutes claim. This guy deliberately sits in his car until it reaches 100% every time just so he can whinge about it even though he and every other EV owner in the world know this is stupid and the slowest way to charge a car.

[@joeking433]

Saying EV's are a con is like a Blackberry user saying the iPhone is a con.

[@videocanonuser]

A few years ago MacMaster was ill with a suspected heart attack. He responded to a critical email I sent him saying he would never do anything that any government wished, in fact he would do the opposite. The man is nuts!

[@waynecartwright-js8tw]

Why didnt he buy a Panamera hybrid , my friend did after he sold his model S, he could moan about the price of petrol and servicing then

[@Brian-om2hh]

The sheer overstressed, sky high level theatrics displayed by the MacMaster, clearly illustrate the stupidity of his act. It's a couple of years since I even watched him in action (I've since blocked his videos), and he seems to have elevated his antics to an even higher level of ridiculousness..... MacMaster, the man who claimed he almost froze to death in an EV on a car park in the middle of Buxton.....

[@marky147]

@@Brian-om2hh watched one yesterday, for about ten minutes and nothing has changed 😂

[@Second0ne]

no one charges at a dealer ship

[@stephenlee5929]

Agreed, I think its rare.

[@Chris.Tustain]

I think what MacMaster was trying to get across is that on "gregs"pasties the pattern indicates the filling contents, so that you pick up the correct flavour off the shelf when purchasing ;-) your welcome ;)

[@derekr1113]

MacLiar posts crap for clicks. He deliberately sets his car up to fail. He cannot afford the car that he has bought so whinges constantly

[@rodden1953]

He made one video where he was at a hotel saying there were no chargers for miles around he was drinking outside and someone made a video who knew where he was and said that the othere side of the wall of the beer garden he was in had chargers on the other side. He Lies all the time compleat pr1ck

[@st200ol]

Prepare yourself for the comeback video, don’t read the comments section unless you have thick skin, Lee’s disciples can get very aggressive. 😁

[@Entr0py1978]

I'm sure you're already working on the iSeeCars report. Looking forward to that one. ✌️

[@Acemeistre]

I actually find MacMaster quite harmless, as he's just a Drama Queen and everyone knows it. John Cadogan is a lot more insidious and actually has a lot more clever spin to his content.

[@jamesp.1784]

After watching MacMaster videos I went and bought an I Pace and love it.. so had the opposite effect on me. I would never go back..

[@peterseddon8363]

EVs in the UK were never zero rated for VED "Road Tax" they were always temporarily exempt to stimulate the adoption of EVs.

[@Trifusion1]

Brit here, I also received that letter. It turns out I’ll need to pay £20 per year from next year (~$25). This guy spent more than that on food in this video I reckon.

[@NerdInMotion23]

Also your comment every house has electric you need to come to the UK and actually see the issue it's not like America. In fact it's not even like Europe where the charging situation is far superior. I guess in California things are loads better.

[@johncahill3644]

I’ve been driving a Tesla Model 3 LR since 2019 and I absolutely love it. And it hasn’t cost me a penny of maintenance due to the amazing warrantee. The only thing to fail was the 12V battery after 4 years (same as any other car, not the big battery) and Tesla came out to my house and replaced it free at a time of my own convenience. Can’t beat that. I fully expect to drive this car half a million miles or more.

[@wewk584]

The ‘choir’ doesn’t require facts. They just need a preacher. I dunno why some people push back so hard on EVs. We are already at peak shale. It’s just going to get harder and harder to get oil and more and more people need cars / vehicles. Forgetting the environment we will need to do this eventually anyways. But we have plenty of lithium and salt and other chemistries. and even after that we just need to be able to make batteries out of something.

[@Neojhun]

FYI McMaster is a former British TABLOID writer. He is a professional misinformation broadcaster.

[@AllanNeaves-qn3zr]

And he speaks from the land that has elected to high office. The Donald, we have no hope of increasing the education of the States. So let me wish you well in your future.

[@HowardLeVert]

Errr.... MacMaster is British?

[@AllanNeaves-qn3zr]

@HowardLeVert Indeed he is, indeed he is. However, as Lee has told us regulars over the years. He lived in the USA for 12 years. He would love to relocate back to Hoboken (?), but his Girlfriend ( Sarah) says NO.! It's clear his spiritual home, the land of the free, the land of plenty. So he carries a British Passport, but his heart belongs to Dixie

[@philiplindley7384]

EVs are still less than 3% of the cars in the UK and their uptake is stalling all over Europe. They may be a good option in California but electricity costs in the UK are the highest in Europe, some say in the World(I don't know). Most people in the UK can't have home-charging because of housing type so it's costlier than petrol to use public chargers.

[@DwaynePipes]

How are you measuring the UK electricity costs in order to find that they are the highest in Europe? Where do you get your numbers from?

[@Brian-om2hh]

Actually, an RAC study concluded that around 60% of the UK population have either a private driveway or a dedicated parking space......

[@philiplindley7384]

@@DwaynePipes Government figures.

[@philiplindley7384]

@@Brian-om2hh The RAC are pushing the shift to EVs so I'm sceptical of their figures. Everyone lies these days to push an agenda.

[@DwaynePipes]

@@philiplindley7384 Which government, which figures? Are you talking about domestic or commercial tariffs?

[@lsh3rd]

If it is all about control, then "they" would be pushing a single source of fuel like gasoline. Electricity is the ultimate flex fuel since you can make it yourself. Electric power is liberating.

[@Sparky783]

You should see 'Geoff buys cars' too, he's just as bad 😂

[@Brian-om2hh]

He's a full-on conspiracy theorist, and believes the contrails in the sky, left by airliners, are an attempt to control the weather. He also believes the UK Fire Service are covering up the number of EV fires....

[@paulgracey4697]

The high fuel taxes all Europeans and the Brits pay compared to ours in the U.S. has made them switch to untaxed EVs at a faster rate than we Americans have. He probably does have in his hand a much larger "road usage" type tax than we here in California and other states have to pay. Your point about his need to pad his KZbin videos with spuriously generated unrelated content and be loud for the attention it gains him is true of course, and thanks for showing me where some of the anti-EV stuff I see in other internet forums is being amplified.

[@lyfebehyndbars9729]

“This car would be better if it had an engine in it” What!?😂 That’s like saying “this phone would be better if it had an engine in it”. That would be a pain in the ass! Engines are just a pain in the ass.

[@garymiller8287]

Thanks!

[@BenSullinsOfficial]

Thanks Gary!

[@jimjolly4560]

Did he make his viewers watch all 47 minutes of his charging time?

[@BramMertens]

Maybe in a future video you can explain a bit about how the KZbin algorithm works. As in what is the best way to demote such videos? I typically avoid watching and commenting on those because I understand that that may actually increase how it scores. What is the impact of a "thumbs down"? Is it measured if you only watch the first couple of seconds of a video? Etc.

[@watchvidjedi]

@macmaster you have a new quentin! Mr Ben Sullins, before you dismiss him entirely, do watch a bit more. He does address facts, but he does pad his videos out to the nth degree!! He is pretty funny though

[@greyjamiesod4989]

I saw this vid. I drive electric. I like both. One gave me a laugh, the other reduced fuel bill.

[@aidansomerville773]

That fearmongering is the very reason that they all voted for Brexit, or why Scotland voted against independence……..

[@colinnich]

And Scotland certainly dodged a bullet there

[@natehill8069]

They didnt ALL vote for Brexit, only about 70% of eligible voters showed up and it was like 2% more against than for of those that voted. Assuming everyone who stayed home didnt care, that means about 2 people _not_ pro Brexit for every 1 that was. And of course _now_ the ones who stayed home say "I thought it would fail easily so I didnt bother".

[@CaptainProton1]

Some of us voted Brexit to stop the hoards (800 a week on average) entering illegally. That didn't work when it should have.

[@DaleSteel]

Sore are you?

[@danielcooper6423]

Yeah because countries inside the EU are booming 🤔....I can only think you are an American with that comment

[@aidansomerville773]

Ok the UK is totally different. Here in Ireland (which isn’t in the uk) we pay VAT (value added tax) or what you call sales tax on petrol/diesel. Thats one thing. ICE cars pay a thing called “motor tax” which is a tax on emissions and goes into the upkeep of roads, amongst others. So EVs should be exempt. I think the uk has the same rules but that, in essence, is what he’s complaining about, that now EVs will have to pay the same sort of motor tax as ICE cars, which are emission based, and EVs don’t emit pollution.

[@CaptainProton1]

Car tax does not go to the upkeep of the roads at all. it goes straight to the treasury and none of the road upkeep is set aside from this income. It's just another tax

[@smithleon]

The guy is pandering to the anti-ev squad and making a successful channel out of it. He's best ignored.

[@danielcooper6423]

He's a clever guy then, he definitely backing the right side. 34,000,000 in UK of which 1,000,000 are EV. Maybe Jag, Ford and VW should have taken note of them stats

[@richjp21]

this is a man whose has ca good living by charging to 100%".he cannot plan routes. He drove from the UK to south of Spain then moan ed about how much he spent charging.l it took over2 days . he failed to mention that he fly there for less money and door door in less than6 hours if time is so important.

[@johndoyle4723]

Yes this guy is just a joke, but there is a market for the EV haters which he fills, and uses the revenue from KZbin to afford his EV. I am from the UK and actually live just a few miles from the charging station he is using, we have a lot of daft newspapers and TV channels that also adopt the same model to get clicks. I suspect the US is similar.

[@jimsouthlondon7061]

Sorry Ben but I’m a UK EV owner often arguing with MacMaster ,but he’s a great warm hearted guy he does great travel vogs and he’s just a grouchy old lovable harmless eccentric . Truth is he loves his Porsche EV and complains bitterly he wouldn’t swap it .

[@reeseprince8]

Slagging a video off for having a opinion how have you got 288k subs

[@stephenbagwell8275]

The low price per mile it costs to drive an EV is not a scam or a con. At least it should be if you plan your journeys properly unlike the MacMaster

[@truebrit3670]

He's the only guy I see drive directly passed an open to all Tesla charger to moan about the price of a BP Pulse charger.

[@stephenbagwell8275]

@ yes I don’t know how many times he passes Rivington Services where it’s 65p He films himself wasting time as well. He charged at a Booths supermarket (quite expensive) and filmed himself only having a coffee in the cafe. In Kendal I charged at an AC charger ate as well as had a drink in the Booths cafe. Did a bit of shopping & booked a Coniston Lake boat trip. At Coniston there was also an AC charger.

[@slowercuber7767]

Good vid. I love your debunking vids, though there really isn't much of MacMaster's that needs debunking. My biggest problem with him is the way he generalizes his Porsche EV experience to all EVs -- saying that all EVs are bad because he expected his overpriced (when new) vehicle to retain more of its value is ridiculous, so much so that I think he does it on purpose, maybe just to get views, or maybe to communicate a message, though still trying to work out what that message may be.

[@jalexand007]

9:35 funny thing is most states over charge EV drivers vs what a gas driver would pay in gas tax.

[@jcfallows]

Lee is a millionaire and making around £11000 a month.

[@philipbrown9006]

Is changing the subject the only response to a question you can't answer you EVangelists can come up with? - It certainly seems like it.

[@BenSullinsOfficial]

How can he survive on that? Cost of living must be low over there

[@mdshovel]

He is just an entertainment personality who used to mainly review food and has several reviewing LA and Spain and other holiday trips plus ICE and EV comparison journeys.

[@KevinLyda]

Never ever considered charging at a dealership. I'd prefer never to go to a dealership for the rest of my life.

[@dannyotter7247]

Never let the truth get in the way of a good story ;-)

[@mrmuds8624]

This guy is a troll, he does it for views. Once he did a video about nearly running out of charge on a motorway trip and complained about not finding a working charger, yet the 2 service stations that he stopped at to charge and apparently they weren't working, yet in between those 2 places was rugby services, anyone with an ev knows that is a major charging hub in the UK.

[@usmcsaxoki]

Indiana charges much more for an EV than an ICE on registration. I think it's around $150 more a year per EV with the idea that, like you said, we're not buying gas and therefore not paying the gas tax. It sucks but like, who cares since you save soooo much more by not having to buy gas and way less, if any, maintenance costs.

[@davidmenasco5743]

Texas has something similar, maybe worse. Not sure if it's still the case, but last time I did the math, they were charging EV owners about 4x the amount that an ICE driver would pay in gas taxes.

[@rogerphelps9939]

@@davidmenasco5743 That is to be expected from the morons in Texas.

[@usmcsaxoki]

@@davidmenasco5743 That sucks.

[@TheMacMaster]

Lol. 😂 I see you have all been Upgraded. It's far too late for me to save you. However I will DESTROY the EV Agenda. 🕶️ I'm The MacMaster and I save people.

[@ryanfraley7113]

The problem is that any time I go back and look at any claims in your videos, most of them aren’t true. You’ve made a brand out of appealing to people afraid of change. It’s like a pro-BlackBerry person saying the iPhone will ruin everything. I can find those videos in the archives, they’ve aged very poorly.

[@BenSullinsOfficial]

Save coal while you’re at it, oh wait…

[@TheMacMaster]

@@BenSullinsOfficialYou do realise that The Electric Car is not a new idea. New York had Electric Cars years ago. I believe in choice. That choice is being taken away from us. Keep making videos my friend. All the best. ❤🕶 MM.

[@BenSullinsOfficial]

On that topic I actually agree, mandates are not necessary

[@superfoxes7204]

@@TheMacMaster oh dear Lee Davey seems like more and more people are discovering the truth about you and the utter lies you tell. Do us all a favour and leave KZbin and take all those lies with you especially the fake cancer scare

[@stulop]

His KZbin revenue pays for that fabulous car he insists on driving. His viewers are helping him to achieve that.

[@paulmorley9910]

How come you don't meet your own comment standards in your own video? If you don't like the content don't watch. He talks about other stuff to make it more entertaining, clearly not something you'd understand. If it doesn't entertain you, don't watch. But don't be triggered because you like EVs, just grow up and accept that other people are allowed opinions too. Perhaps you'd just like to censor people with different opinions to your own, in which case we can all better understand why you'd defend the UK government, they're into that.

[@philipbrown9006]

True. The CCDH = Orwell's Ministry of Truth.

[@peteowens3033]

Yes, I have watched several of his videos. In those he lead into the video with the same negativity. In fact he lead us to believe he was going to Porche to trade his electric in on a dream Porche he always wanted but after test driving the ICE Porche he was disappointed in the rough feel of the engine, lack of acceleration and poor ride and admitted his EV was much better in all those areas so he was going to keep the electric car after all. I think he knows there are a lot of EV haters out there and he is spinning all of this in a negative way attracting their clicks and likes for his own gain. I agree with you about the EV tax. I pay $180 annually for the EV tax here in NC. That is equivalent to an ICE vehicle, about the size of mine, paying gas taxes at the pump during the year to drive about $15,000 miles. Seems reasonable to me considering charging at home costs me about 1/3rd of what purchasing gas at the pump would.

[@jgreen9361]

There is a saying about luxury purchases. If you need to ask the price you can’t afford it. If you can’t afford the depreciation, don’t buy a luxury brand car. Whatever it runs off.

[@superfoxes7204]

I made 2 videos reviewing macmaster calling out his lies

[@jedclampett4215]

The Tax he is talking about is the Vehicle Excise Duty (VED) road tax. Many European countries have a road use tax of some kind. When I lived in Germany, going to Austria for the first ski trip of the year, I had to pay the Austrian road tax & display the sticker on the windshield. The UK tax imposed on the sale of each liter of petrol is a source of income for the government. It is not specifically earmarked for road construction/repair/maintenance. There are (was) a number of exemptions from paying the VED tax, including amount of emissions expelled by the registered car, whether it's considered a classic car/antique, if used by a disabled person or passenger, and EV's. A number of the exemptions are going away as of March 2025. To encourage EV purchases, the UK government held up the exemption and told would be buyers they wouldn't have to pay the tax. The government has gone back on their word and that is what the guy is upset about.

[@ogodei70]

I nicknamed this guy THE MACMORON ever since I watch his video on the "Lands end to John O'groats" race, where he spends 3 hours charging his car on a derated 30kW charger when there was a 150kW charger 15mins down the motorway.

[@davidlavender7201]

Can't face the truth it seems Ben?