He Can't Stop After Being Exposed

[@bradleyanderson4315]

You don’t need a second home charger, you can alternate which one you plug in.

[@lindam.1502]

@@bradleyanderson4315 I was surprised Ben missed that correction!

[@Longtack55]

Ever since Scottty told us "I'm outta here" and was back in a week I knew he was "unreliable."

[@johnnyquid-xj4kk]

He’s also always getting sued or having a bad day. I think he said Toyota was throwing away engines last time.

[@mostmost1]

Right

[@CNile-se9xw]

@Longtack55 Hey, what about Jenni threatening to leave Ben if he didn't cut her electricity bill in half? She'd NEVER leave Ben. Especially with HIS new home.

[@rapmastac1362]

@@Longtack55 how many times has he died so far this year?

[@Magnusfication]

Yup. Unsubbed him right then. Its rlly pathetic content.

[@KCTalksEV]

The Scotty Kilmer fact is if it's not a 1994 Toyota Celica it's a unreliable piece of junk Mechanics that haven't bit the bullet and admitted the increase of EVs are running scared, this is the direct result of their echo chamber

[@BenSullinsOfficial]

😂

[@Skylancer727]

I mean it is probably the pinnacle of reliability. How many cars on the road do you see from the 90s still other than Camry's, Corollas, and Celicas? They just don't die and he's really not wrong on that. And you can say he's scared of EVs, but why? He's 70 years old and plans to retire in the next few years. And so far nobody's really proven him wrong on EV reliability. There are EVs on the road after 10 years, but not much more than that. EVs aren't really being bought by those planning long term ownership, most seem to be buying them as luxury goods or for the fancy bonuses like the full sun roof, cellphone key, etc. They're basically treated more like phones than as the reliable car. Even when we see reviews of EVs reliability of the car or the brand are incredibly low on the bar. Like how people actively praise features like automatic charging doors that can get stuck if you lose power or the motor fails. Instead the main features looked are how cool the features are and how fast it is. These are cool to talk about but they're not really as world shattering as just having a car that lasts longer.

[@KCTalksEV]

@@Skylancer727 You're right on the time we've seen EVs on the roads. We will see 15+ year old EVs on the road soon, but can't blame the cars for the passage of time. He's right with a 1990s Toyota, but watching the video he's actually talking a lot of unresearched rubbish. Now to why he's scared? With an EV he will lose the oil and filter changes every 10k miles (or less if you want to prolong the longevity - I've heard 3-5k oil changes as if that should be the norm, that's a money pit even if DIY), timing belts and clutch/flywheel replacements every 80-100k. Cabin filters and screenwash will be the only major regular servicing item. And even those are going further away from the regular 10-15k intervals. And you have brakes and suspension, and the odd coolant change every 100k miles. Brake pads are lasting significantly longer on EVs. Suspension even with the increase relative weight isn't showing an issue I can find. tyre wear is a mixed bag depending on which car it is. Not much worse than an equivalent ICE with similar torque and HP. All of that is for most people a trip to the mechanic, and that is loss of money. That's the scared part. Won't affect him as you said he's getting on, but he's looking out for his brethren

[@Skylancer727]

@KCTalksEV I don't think he is. He has always been outspoken similarly with hybrids that don't at all change maintenance like EVs do. And you do lose oil changes, but that's chump change compared to suspension, wheel bearings, brake pads and disk, AC, etc. There are so many other issues with cars than just oil changes and EVs do increase the rate of others at the benefit of loss of oil changes. Hell he's openly stated he loves that EVs don't need emission testing. Plus he has always been open about people buying cars that will last openly bashing brands that make him more in parts costs. Like I said he's retiring soon and has been winding down his work for years. He doesn't run a full repair shop, he mostly does his work by himself. The main area I see misinformation from him is in batteries. But I don't blame him at all on that. Batteries are really complicated to understand and keep changing. Like he knows iron phosphate are lower density, he doesn't know you can charge them to 100% or that they're faster to charge. That's not really common knowledge outside the EV sphere.

[@Skylancer727]

@Tron-Jockey that is a completely unfair comparison. The 1000 pounds heavier is based on cars of the same category. Obviously ICE pickups are heavier than coupes, but we don't care about that. We can about ICE coupes vs electric ones. Plus the average EV sold is an SUV or crossover.

[@gnagyusa]

You don't need to install a home charger. All we needed for our Teslas was a $40 dryer plug adapter. Also, lithium ion batteries are 95% recyclable, so unlike oil, lithium is *not a consumable.* You mine it *once,* then it can be reused over and over.

[@Drewcardello]

To scotty's credit, we haven't found a great way to efficiently recycle the the battery materials in mass, but at least we have found a way to repurpose old battery modules.

[@johnnyquid-xj4kk]

Most of my charging is done at home. It’s like having your own gas station 24/7.

[@HanYou2]

The reason battery production is CO2 intensive is because of (surprise!) the fossil fuels used to power the extraction of minerals, transportation, the factories which process the minerals and some of the processes. So potentially even the battery production can be CO2 free. So how on earth would we move on from fossil fuels if not by working on changing the source of energy away from fossil fuels. Definitely not by continuing to extract and consume fossil fuels.

[@cre8tvedge]

@@Drewcardello Uhhhh you might want to look into Redwood Materials and a few other's in the field. I think Panasonic announced they will be building a battery recycling facility. Perhaps Ben will do a video on this.

[@cre8tvedge]

@@HanYou2 Thanks. It always astounds how they attack EVs over the mining and the coal power plants as though the best thing to do for the environment is to double down on the things they just admitted are the problem.

[@dylanwhite6539]

Correction, class 8 ICE and class 8 EVs aren’t held to the same gross weight. EVs are given an extra 2000lbs to compensate for the battery, so they can be 82,000lbs instead of 80,000lbs. It’s a negligible difference in terms of road wear, but it’s still important to be correct with this info.

[@BenSullinsOfficial]

Good catch 👍

[@tedoptional-p8l]

A 4,444 lb car weighs as much as the load on one tire on a loaded 18 wheeler. They can literally destroy a road all by themselves.

[@ronblack7870]

@@tedoptional-p8l the wear is from heavy vehicles braking . i have seen new roads get all wavy because they let heavy trucks on there too soon .

[@IamtheDill]

@@BenSullinsOfficial correcting someone but also needing to get corrected...

[@stefanrus4723]

@BenSullinsOfficial I am wondering what you think about the electric trucks class 8 as you call them in America. I noticed you omitted to comment on that part of his video , don't you think that the fact that electric trucks over all will pollute more because of the amount of loading capacity lost due to the weight of the battery's. More trucks will be needed to do the same job and most of the pollution is coming from the production of the big battery's that are used on the trucks. I will like to get an answer, maybe you can clarify my dilemma.

[@Jerry-f7g]

I am a Tesla model 3 owner,I love my car ! But when it comes to JD Power I don’t trust them at all,find out who is the owner and you will realize also. I still enjoy Scotty.

[@bobholland9924]

Scotty lies alot. And not just about EVs.

[@rinksdinks]

Scotty is not intelligent enough to lie as he just reads a script written by a liar

[@oradoughball]

Either way, he's moving towards a successful career in politics.

[@Skylancer727]

You can say that, but he has a huge following because people have seen what he says follows through. Plus he is a real mechanic who even fixes his viewers cars. So clearly he's not just full of hot air. You can hate his opinions but you shouldn't judge his honesty.

[@lachlanB323]

@@Skylancer727 Plenty of dumb people fall for his BS correct. That is totally the norm these days. Right wing, left wing they all fall into their own zone of pure stupidity.

[@edornelas8275]

@@oradoughballmaybe he works for Fox News!

[@sjsomething4936]

One thing to add about the lifetime emissions of EVs versus gasoline vehicles is that the EV batteries are now becoming a circular economy as they are being recycled. The recovery rate ranges from 80% of the critical minerals to about 95-ish percent, depending on the recycling company - some processes are better than others and there are a few different techniques being used. So if eventually all vehicles were electrified with some kind of lithium based battery, only about 5% of the material in the battery packs would need to come from newly mined minerals. Add to which the massive amount of battery research that is trying to identify less expensive and less rare chemical compounds to make batteries from, because of course a company that can sell a battery that’s got equivalent power density and capacity but can make a cheaper battery is likely to sell more of them.

[@pietersteenkamp5241]

And for the most part we are not even recycling yet because it just have not reached scale with most people just adding to their battery solutions instead of tossing it out. If a battery has declined to 70% what in fact is the use of getting rid of it when you can just buy ever cheaper batteries to add thus extending their life even more?

[@rustinwhipple3878]

What concerns me is the possibility of creating a huge toxic landfill problem in third-world country's similar to the cellphone waste in India.

[@sjsomething4936]

@@rustinwhipple3878 that’s best dealt with by legislation and proper waste management. I’d imagine the landfill in India are full of phones purchased in their own country. Personally I am fortunate to live reasonably close to a waste transfer station so I take all of my used batteries there. If India can’t organize itself effectively to do proper waste disposal, they’ll pollute their own country and then have to live with the consequences. Also, the amount of toxins that are produced by the petrochemical industry is staggering, please feel free to look up Syncrude Tailings Dam in google maps. That entire “lake” named Mildred Lake is highly polluted with toxic sludge from oil extracted, and it’s one of at least a dozen tailings ponds in the area. This is the dirty secret that the spin doctors hired by oil and gas companies try to keep under wraps when claiming that electric vehicles are dirty because of the mining. Or let’s look at the beaches in Florida polluted by the Deepwater Horizon incident, there’s still oil fouling the beaches *to this day* - 14 years after the original spill. Or overland pollution caused by breaks in pipelines, like the 600,000 GALLONS of oil spilled in Kansas by a leak in the Keystone pipeline. Every form of energy production and storage has its downsides, but with gasoline it never gets any better from a pollution perspective. It’s the perfect product, something that you always need to live and which is constantly being consumed, not much different than food. As long as we’re stuck on petroleum we’ll also always have to live with the pollution of the air in cities by vehicles, the fouling of the landscape at production sites, and the production of CO2 which is changing our climate massively.

[@jtkstudios4168]

Scotty certainly caters to the anti EV crowd. The problem is that he speaks as an authority. He's just an old mechanic with outdated information. Most modern vehicles have gotten so heavy that they are within 100 pounds (and sometimes heavier) than iCE counterparts. And no one considers well to wheel emissions for gas and diesel vehicles. Confirmation bias allows one to only look at certain data

[@lohengrin5082]

I was about comment this. My Model y Standard range is only 200 lbs more than a subaru outback.

[@Skylancer727]

Nobody talks about it because nobody cares. How many people are buying the Prius right now? The sales of it have only fallen with time even though it's by far the most fuel efficient ICE vehicle. Even among EVs the most efficient is the Lucid Air, how many EV fans are buying that? Efficiency matters to the government, but consumers do not care. People will actively buy the biggest vehicle they can afford even if it cuts fuel economy by 60%. Just look how popular the Model Y is over the Model 3. The model 3 is 10% more efficient. You can say all you want that people care about efficiency, but actions speak louder than words. EVs are better for the environment, but not substantially. Even after everything EVs tend to average between 70-140mpge. But people are more buying the larger EVs meaning it's more on the lower bar than that. That puts them only about 20-30% more efficient than hybrids for example, but then what's the point? Plus many of the benefits used to make EVs more efficient could also translate to ICE as well. Cutting the weight, making the bottom flat, adding more aero could all make it better. We even see this with things like the 100mpg car.

[@tedoptional-p8l]

@@lohengrin5082 Yes but my Cyber truck weighs 6,666 lbs. (Well, OK, there are several heavier ICE vehicles).

[@Longtack55]

The Scotty "Dunning Kruger" phenomenon (or as candidate 45 might say "phemomimom.")

[@ronblack7870]

@@Skylancer727 your 100 mpg car can barely make it to 60 mph . ev's have fast acceleration . i don't care at all about whether one is better for the environment. where i live i can drive 60 in a 40 all the time. it's more fun.

[@Ricksworldtv]

My 2020 Model 3 has saved me over 7k in operating costs in the 4 years and 60k miles I've owned it. Just traded in my Ford Transit Connect 7 seat for a model Y 7 seat and haven't regretted it. Just drove the Y from Mid Missouri to San Fransisco and back spending $350 for all charging. The trip was 4150 miles, @28mpg in the Transit x $3.59 for gas is $532 + $106 for an oil change at Ford. I saved $288 with the Model Y.

[@jhar02]

Big Scotty fan, and his coverage of internal combustion vehicles is amazing. His coverage of EVs is so often so wrong, it's disappointing. 2 years ago, I was EV indifferent. I really didn't care one way or the other. I bought a used Tesla 1.5 years ago, and really enjoyed it. A year after that, I solidified that 82% stat, trading in my wife's perfectly good Toyota Rav4 for another used Tesla. The cars are THAT good. I have no desire to drive anything else at this point as I see no compelling reason. Very interested in the CT too

[@whodatcatt]

We have 3 drivers, 2 Teslas and a real nice Jag F-Pace. The Jag did 800 miles last year…. WANT the CT but it’s all ego for us. We just don’t need a truck. We’ll have a tough decision when our number comes up.

[@Alopen-xb1rb]

Likewise the wife convinced to me replace the aging Maxima with a model Y. I hate buying new or spending real money on a depreciating asset. However, the EV is a good car and worth the upfront cost. Zero regrets. Scotty is probably only doomsaying EVs for the clicks and it’s a shame as he knows ICE engines. Now he’s moved to solar panels 🫣.

[@artboymoy]

Have you looked into the Aptera? Not in production yet but getting real close and a really innovative and unique vehicle. It's going to be my first EV.

[@tedoptional-p8l]

You did the right thing, you really bought a Tesla, twice.

[@milescoleman910]

@@artboymoy I think there’s a good chance that Aptera is Teslas first purchase if they manage to produce 1000 miles of range. He doesn’t have a motorcycle or a a superlight. It would be ripe to come in and save the company if they reach a terminal point for funding.

[@Zenedoboz]

Ben, I think you made a mistake. The study you quoted says 80% of people owning an EV would consider buying another EV in the future. That is not the same thing as replacing their other ICE car with an EV. There might be a lot of people who go the hybrid way of having an EV for daily, and having an ICE car for long trips. So the study is not exactly relevant.

[@hotshot2233]

It's not just evs. He's off on all his stuff. I used to watch him, and just got to where I couldn't anymore.

[@NicolaMs007]

@@hotshot2233 yeah same ere

[@bryanchannell7715]

Me either just like with Biden or Trump at a certain age it's usually around 60 to 70 years old or higher the people that used to be really smart even Bill Gates now they're getting out of proportion with how intelligent they think that they are because they're not anymore and they're starting to deteriorate rapidly at that age so I don't listen to them anymore except for something that's very old school at the time when they were younger and their memory was better

[@trythis2821]

@@bryanchannell7715 Ageism bro. All the people you mentioned have been and are very successful and have both good and bad points, don't agree that age is a factor.

[@bryanchannell7715]

@@trythis2821 what's Alzheimer's Parkinson's disease or any degenerative disease do 10 years before somebody dies is more severe in a younger dying age than it is an older dying age like a centennial it's usually about 2 years or 1 year A very critical and common infections and diseases I technically study for a living just so you know I don't just give opinions out you might not agree with it but it's facts I'm a very objective person I would say that it's considered abrasive by some but it's only when I want to have a conversation about something that's usually biased opinionated or false but mostly bc it's past tense in its nature

[@trythis2821]

@@bryanchannell7715 Lets not beat around the bush you must be a Democratic supporter as you know Biden is gone and now you are trying to discredit Trump.

[@DrDave_63395]

I smiled at Scott’s comment that you need two chargers if you have two EVs . We’ve had a BMW i3 for 4 years and 6 months ago got a Nissan Ariya. Since both cars do multiple of our daily driving needs we can easily decide which car to charge ( if any) that night.

[@natehill8069]

You can get multi-plug EVSEs that charge one and then the other, altho I assume the cost more. Presumably they could also be set to charge both at 1/2 rate, which would be better for the batteries anyway.

[@Brian-om2hh]

Exactly, Scotty's argument is pointless. If you had 2 gas cars, would they both need filling up at the same time?

[@craiganderson8569]

Scotty Kilmer makes a living on saying stupid crap. It's amazing there are people who take what he says seriously.

[@dertythegrower]

A lot of youtubers are doing this now... it is not just the car industry.. especially with exaggrated thumbnails(majority of clicks he gets unsubscribed)

[@tatata1543]

Six million subs, he has an audience.

[@tatata1543]

@@BlackSuburbanAre you thinking conspiracy?😂

[@RussBrownFL]

But people do take him seriously and he perpetuates a ton of BS about EVs. He needs to be countered and people need to be educated about the realities.

[@stevewest131]

We have youtubers like that here in the UK, it gets clicks. People believe the dated nonsense because it's easy to and so they want to. It needs little thought. Facts will catch up with them.

[@supremep1ayer]

I will be pleasantly surprised if this comment is posted as it is somewhat critical and must pass the censors. That said - Ben, you're sitting here complaining about Scotty sharing misleading information while disseminating it yourself. At 2:26 you say "basically ALL of the damage to roads when it comes to potholes or crumbling whatever is due to these big vehicles, these class 8 semi trucks" while the text simply states "heavy truck cause the vast majority of damage on U.S. roadways." "basically ALL" =/= "vast majority." Close but no cigar. Additionally, tell that to all the people living on pothole ridden city streets where "class 8 semis" are prohibited. I'm the guy with a city who can't afford to fix most of its streets now. What do you think heavier vehicles will do to those streets? I'm sure they will increase the damage as more and more vehicles are electric. Anyway, my 2 cents. Oh, I am not saying you're wrong about Scotty, but stones are still a bad idea in glass houses. Additionally, the emphasis on "ALL" was yours. Thank you. Once I finish watching, if necessary, I'll let you know if anything else comes up in your video.

[@chrisoconnell8432]

slight correction, electric semi's are capped at 82,000 lbs, not 80,000. That extra 2k lbs was granted so their towing capacity wouldn't suffer too much because of their heavier cap.

[@tatata1543]

What is the unladen weight of the Tesla semi? Has that ever been released?

[@christiandavidallen6229]

Well said

[@tatata1543]

Guess that’s a no then😟

[@chrisoconnell8432]

@@tatata1543 I've seen many guesses online, but there's never been an official number. Tesla seems to be waiting until they release their high volume semi before giving out that data. Tesla said the design is dramatically different, so will prob weigh less then the current iteration.

[@tedoptional-p8l]

@@tatata1543 Nobody's complaining about its ability.

[@shirey100]

I was once a Scotty fan, but then I realized even I, a non-EV owner (but who hopes to be one, one day). Has a better understanding of EV's than a self-described automotive expert. That was the end of that.

[@theApe-X]

Dude doesn't even try, he straight up shares his opinion as a fact... Was a fan, really disappointed.

[@knewhunter1]

He's been anti-EV since he realized he was not sophisticated enough to repair them, or even discuss them intelligently. He's an old dog who's made his money and doesn't need to learn new tricks. And he's a liar.

[@catbert7]

@@theApe-X If he just shared unresearched opinions, that would be one thing, the bigger problem is that he shares false facts.

[@rtsrts2317]

Look at the comments. Everyone's a self-described expert. At least Scotty has 50+ years of auto experience and I believe is a certified master tech. Not saying he's right about everything and I'm not shilling for him, but compared to the yahoo's down below shouting out their biases, at least Scotty has some real-world experience receipts.

[@theApe-X]

@@rtsrts2317 Means nothing when it's straight up lies. His "facts" are proven to be wrong before he even made the anti EV videos. EV's are not perfect but they're helping solve a problem and he's convincing large number of people not to help. His large audience is the problem, not some randos comments.

[@TheFiremonkeyman]

after all these years, I STILL can't tell if kilmer is intentionally producing satire or not.

[@Otterbruce]

Yes he’s only been fun to watch for entertainment value only.

[@brithor52]

Maybe he should host SNL🥸

[@tedoptional-p8l]

He has gotten lost or doesn't care anymore.

[@jamesbowen2105]

Im sure Toyota funnels money to him, one way or the other...

[@JusticeAlways]

His arms flapping around is funny to watch.😅

[@Linealo]

Adding to your "place the production outside" comment: Cars have the issue of directly emitting particles and gases at their current location. There are filtering systems, but those always create a slight back pressure or need additional parts like the catalytic converter and such to reduce harmful emissions. You cannot fully filter and convert all emissions because it wouldn't be healthy for the engine or could reduce efficiency and power output. Putting a fine mesh on your exhaust pipe will most clearly damage the motor. If you now shift the emissions to a large factory though, you suddenly have much more control over them. You can create explicit filtration buildings, work on permanent contamination storage, recycle certain gases, particles and chemical waste, and everything is contained in one spot. While an immediate disaster would of course be devastating to the surrounding, the same is true for any petrol car production site. So what really needs to be compared is not the theoretical output of emissions during one production, but how much actually goes into the atmosphere and landscape. And in this regard, factories are by miles, a landslide and a cosmic shift better than any car on the road. Because they are a controlled and contained surrounding. So overall, while the production of batteries indeed is more environmentaly heavy than of a petrol cars motor, the environmental impact, assuming regulations andaws are being followed, is basically the same, because there's standards and enforcements on how much pollution is allowed to go into the surrounding by a certain factory. Peteol cars just blow it anywhere, all the time, for as long as they're on the road and getting filled up over and over and over again.

[@chrispapanastasopoulos9192]

I like when Scotty gives repair advice. He seems to now have an agenda against ev’s. But he is really one sided and inaccurate. So I have stopped watching his channel. I like your balanced view on this topic and for pointing out how we all have confirmation bias which I completely agree with. The echo chamber in the comments in Scotty’s channel is over the top. Absolutely no chance of having any good discussions there.

[@PlanetFrosty]

Take everything with a grain of salt. We all make mistakes and have our confirmation bias. Scotty trying to be entertaining makes too many hyperbolic statements at times.

[@johnnyquid-xj4kk]

I agree. He’s become a Trumper and kinda maga. Quite a few left the channel. It’s becoming another pro Russia channel full of bots and trolls.

[@MarkHidden]

Ironically, I think you might be wrong about the EV Semis. I happened to talk to a Tesla Semi truck tester, and he informed me that it’s not as heavy as you might think. In fact, he suggested it was lighter than a Day cab. However, in 2019, the federal government allowed a 2,000 lb weight allowance for EVs, bringing the total to 82,000 lbs for EV semi trucks. There is a subgoal, and that is to keep axle weight below 20,000 lbs because this is the root cause of road damage. When you do the math, 12-34-34 is the max weight distribution for a truck. The drive axles of a tractor could take an additional 2,000 lbs without significantly damaging the roads if they were diesel trucks, as diesel trucks don’t have the torque of an electric vehicle. But I fear that with the extra torque of electric trucks, EV semis may end up doing more damage. If you look at stoplights in heavy truck areas, you’ll see a lot of breakage. However, because a Tesla Semi has a much smoother takeoff, this might have a mitigating effect. In short, there are a lot of interesting questions to ask and get answers to.

[@brianbeasley7270]

When we added a second BEV at home (now with no ICE), the electrical upgrades to the garage (including the chargers--EVSE) cost about $3K total. I was personally able to do the work so cheaper than hiring an electrician. Still, the payback of never buying gas, fuel cost being about 1/4 of gas, and having the garage set up for potentially 3 BEVs from here on out was absolutely worth it. The gas savings alone for two average cars driven the average amount per year is about $2,000. So payback in 1.5 years and savings forever.

[@PygKLB]

And waking up to a full charge every day? Priceless.

[@thomasj1026]

@@brianbeasley7270 for now. Until power companies start charging extra for it.

[@stevewest131]

We save a lot more than that in the UK. If we charge overnight we save about 90% on petrol / gas cars. I would guess petrol is more expensive here and overnight electric is cheaper than elsewhere.

[@tedoptional-p8l]

I did it for a lot less, with #4 copper wire, a real professional job for $450.

[@tedoptional-p8l]

@@stevewest131 I currently pay $0.042 per kw late at night.

[@zupermxn]

Scotty didn't said that a single ev does more damage than semi trucks. What he is saying is that roads will need repairs more often since a big number of heavy evs will be driving on those roads. And there are many roads that semi truck don't have access to because they are not rated for heavy vehicles, but ev's do...

[@natehill8069]

While EVs (currently) weigh ~20% more than a similarly sized ICE car, that does not translate into 10%-20% more road wear. Roads are designed to handle 80,000# trucks, even a 6,000# EV doesnt show up on the radar.

[@BarryObaminable]

seems like someone took the paycheck to try to prevent the adoption of EVs

[@tedoptional-p8l]

To little, to late.

[@Martinko_Pcik]

5:50 notice that research is biased towards EVs since they put all ICE vehicles in one category ignoring hybrids. My Prius is very comparable with EVs life CO2 emissions. That is the primary goal of electrification. Not mentioning quite cheaper on my wallet today to purchase and operate. I don't agree with putting all ICE to one category and try to ban the whole bucket. There should be CO2 ration of vehicles instead, irrespective of the implementation.

[@paulbrowne6087]

A friend of mine is a big Scotty fan and bought a Lexus SUV with a large V6 engine on his reccomdation. The problem is we live in the UK where gas is $13 a gallon so was costing him a fortune. He ended up doing it and buying a used Tesla model S and absolutely loves it.

[@tedoptional-p8l]

There is no comparison.

[@alexguolo5872]

The toyota will outlive the Tesla by 3x

[@williamgrunzweig571]

​@@alexguolo5872 A lot can happen in 10 years time to that Toyota...directly and indirectly. So again, you comment is pointless. Case in point, Toyota Tundra had catastrophic engine failures...full recall required....that ended those Toyotas in no time flat. Broad stroke comments like yours never age well. For clarity, my brother drove my grandmother's corolla from 1988 well into the 2000s, however it developed a rust issue and a whole the size of a watermelon developed in the passenger floor board. You could see the road...no joke. It was running still, but it was crumbling around him. Are you going to say that is some how proof that Toyota is better? A rusting out car, can run, but is no longer safe to drive is not a win. He replaced it with a kia...not a toyota.

[@paulbrowne6087]

@@williamgrunzweig571 you missed my point. Scotty's advice is not universally useful. My mate was going bankrupt slowly having the fuel the thing in the UK. Probably fine in the US of course it some petrol states. Here in Europe EV sales are very strong because it's so cheap to fuel and maintain.

[@hcjpbluesky9916]

Most don't realize how cheap electricity can be, especially Europeans held up by crazy natural gas prices. In the USA wholesale generators compete on a field that costs

[@Styrola]

We dont need two wall chargers at our home. Because we dont have to charge every day. So the charger is free to use by either car most of the time.

[@natehill8069]

Just buy a 2-headed EVSE. I believe they can either charge serially or parallel (albeit at 1/2 power of course altho that would be easier on the batteries anyway).

[@brithor52]

I quit watching Scotty because so many of his video titles misrepresented what was in the actual video. It was like "bate and switch" whereas I'd watch with the express purpose of learning about the particular thing mentioned in the title and so many times I'd get to the end and realize that the thing I wanted to see, was not even mentioned. I gave him the benefit of the doubt but after enough disappointment I said "that's it, I quit." Fool me once... So it is not surprising that he packs his EV vids with garbage data. Thanks for exposing his dishonesty again.

[@Brendan2Alexander]

I am a relatively new scotty viewer the bait and switch is really off putting. He lost me for that

[@hemipowersrt6773]

I own a Tesla 3, an Audi e-tron, and a Chevy Volt, but I still don't recommend Ev's because I'm an auto mechanic.

[@davejones5703]

🤣 They have training for that so you can be certified to work on EV's. EV tech are in demand.

[@hemipowersrt6773]

@@davejones5703 that’s not a bad idea, I will look in to it. Thanks!

[@Yanquetino]

The anti-EV fossil foolishness never stops, does it?

[@tatata1543]

@@Yanquetino ditto the pro-EV “foolishness”. Neither side can accept that there are pros and cons to everything.

[@chasl3645]

I don't know why there's got to be one or the other. They both have their advantages. I would love to see where electrics get with 130+ years of growth and development. Like gassers do... I expect incredible improvements with the development of AI.

[@Hybridog]

@@chasl3645 You have the correct view - it's VERY early in the EV and battery development curve. Battery tech was stagnant for a long time, but now there is a huge amount of money flowing into the industry and the research efforts are tremendous right now.

[@tonycatsup2175]

Imagine what it was like for the horse community when the Model T hit the market!

[@mrkymrk99]

@@tatata1543sounds like something trump would say while waving his little hands. “Good people on both sides” WRONG

[@scottkolaya2110]

Not a fan of Scotty. But at 8:00, you are talking about 2 different statistics. For example, as an EV owner, I will definitely consider purchasing another EV in the future. That is true. I am also a multi-car household with both gas and electric. Will I replace my gas with an EV, no. Not yet. In fact there aren't even any minivan options for EVs. The best I can do is an unreliable plug-in hybrid from Chrysler or a plain old hybrid from Toyota. That's again where statistics are misrepresented. One question asked for EV owners "Will your next car be an EV?" No, conclusion from media, I'm switching back to gas when I'm not and just staying the same for now because most likely the gas vehicle is the oldest in a EV/Gas household and that's the one needing replacing.

[@jeremybennett5547]

“Plain old hybrid from Toyota” What the deal? No iPad touch screen so it’s plain and old? Your statement “plain old hybrid from Toyota” makes you sound like the privileged kid in school that thinks he’s above everyone else.

[@scottkolaya2110]

@@jeremybennett5547 No, it has nothing to do with screens. Just 25-year-old drivetrain technology. I’d be perfectly happy with a DIN radio with good old knobs and buttons. Toyota’s early Prius hybrids now actually qualify for historic plates. As a boomer and watching Toyota take 25 years to finally put their rather old drivetrain technology into their minivan just this year, I have no words. It’s sad that in 2024 that is probably the best option to buy.

[@ryanwc67]

Thanks Ben, we need some push back on this disinformation. Love it!

[@stevewest131]

Agreed. Good on yer Ben

[@SonderZensei]

I find it weird that car experts are comparing EV technology that is in it's relative infancy to ICE technology that's been around for decades and criticise it for not being better. The implication is that because it's not better, we should just give up on it. It's probably a bad analogy but it's like giving up on a child who is unable to do everything an adult can. The drive to reduce the weight of EV's has given rise to innovations in materials and wiring harnesses. Battery energy densities are increasing rapidly. It would be nice if someone could do a projection of where EV technology will be in the next decade based upon it's current level of development.

[@ryanwc67]

@@SonderZensei The best person I've watched that looks into the future of Eevee technology is Tony siba, studies the cost curve decline of all aspects of EV technology. He has an investment firm/ think tank that studies disruptions in business. Well worth watching his speeches because he is very accurate in the last decade.

[@stephenoates3746]

My EV is lighter than my mum's Diesel car

[@DaRockCRX]

There is one thing I need to add. Heavier vehicles do harm the road more obviously. There is a calculation on full weight cycle counts which is used to size the structure of roads accordingly to their intended usage. Different weight classes of vehicles get a certain cycle count in this calculation. This is obviously not unique to BEVs. Also in many cases, the ICE equivalents are the same weight or at least not much less. So this is actually a problem produced by the stupid path of making everything bigger and heavier. BEV is NOT the Problem.

[@tedoptional-p8l]

You should look at the real stats, heavy trucks literally crush the road. One truck is more than 18 cars as far as damage to the road is concerned. Batteries will get lighter, then what?

[@comicalhexical]

@@tedoptional-p8l batteries are likely to get heavier if they don't make modifications to the car shape itself.

[@spencerbardell2180]

There is a reason why he uses very specific examples.. He says a 'house with one EV and TWO ICE vehicles' will choose their next car to be an ICE.. This is because the study that has been missquoted time and again uses data from people that have multiple vehicles.. "People are more likely to "Switch" to gas from EVs " .. NO NO NO ..They are likely to buy a gas car as a second or third vehicle and NOT "switch"!! GREAT VIDEO!!

[@dirkbester9050]

Small correction about EV Semis. In America they are allowed an extra 2k pounds, the EU allows 5k above the 80k max. The road damage is geometric with weight. So it could make a difference. But most loads are not weight capped, they are volume capped or not full loads. By the time the R&D cycle for batteries is over I would be surprised if there still is a weight difference.

[@kradius2169]

EV semi's like to burn more than the EV cars ... and infrastructure to charge those EV semi's? ... bring on King Chuckles and his merry band of Nut Zeroes with their skimmed SDG7-rhymes-with-WTC7 trillion$. Meanwhile, Google: Houston Cyndertruck

[@lrod312]

As an ICE fan, I don’t “hate” EVs. I think they definitely have a place in the market with their own niche and cater to different people for all sorts of different reasons, and to leave it to diie, is leaving money on the table. That said, for me personally, it’s just that if every car were forced to go full BEV, it would feel like I’m driving in just another reskinned Tesla or a glorified power wheels. Nothing wrong with Teslas, but if everything I drove “felt” almost exactly the same, and had the same personality, the same post-modern minimalistic motif, the driving experience would feel terribly bland and fatally boring. If you’re used to driving around in economy cars your whole life or never cared for car culture, you probably wouldn’t understand or would even dismiss my concern as silly or unimportant, but driving is part of the modern-day human experience and to take it for granted, you miss out on a big part of life. What most of us enthusiasts actually hate about EVs is that many western governments are forcing every car company to go electric by some arbitrary date without weighing the cons of capriciously pushing this too aggressively, too fast. As we speak, Toyota, Subaru and Porsche are collaborating to create carbon neutral fuels and it looks like they’re pretty close to saving the ICE engine. And I have faith that they will. The future doesn’t HAVE to be electric but about having variety. As ICE enthusiasts, we couldn’t care less about what the engine itself is fueled by, as long as it gets to keep its unique characteristics that make it that much more enjoyable to drive. That’s all. The rumble of the engine, the feel of the downshifting transmission working to deliver the power to the wheels through the driveshaft, the reverberating exhaust note is something that cannot ever be correctly replicated by synthetic sounds or electric rumblers. No two engines are alike and thats the beauty of ICE engines.

[@bminerrolltide]

Small correction: EV Semi trucks are allowed to weigh up to 82,000 lbs fully loaded. They get 1 ton more payload than conventional semis.

[@chadhaire1711]

A liar exposing a liar....hahahhahaha

[@jamesheartney9546]

Contra Scotty, one other point. It's not at all difficult to support more than one EV with a single home charger. Unless it's a trickle charger, the vast majority of the time it won't be in use.

[@ronblack7870]

do both ev's have to charge every day? that's some heavy use if that's the case.

[@themagitechie9955]

@@ronblack7870 depends on the range of the EVs in question. Some are built with just enough for a typical commute every day, with the expectation that it charges at work or home every day, which is usually not a problem since they are usually more efficient and cheaper from not carrying battery capacity they don't need every day. maybe a household might have multiple EVs, one economy minded commuter and one with a more typical 200-300 mile range, they might just use a level one charger for the commuter and save the level 2 for the longer ranged one or if they need to get charged fast. it's not that crazy to think of. Or you might have a household with one longer ranged car for trips and larger cargo and a few E-bikes (or other electric micromobility) for commuting. On that note, supporting multiple E-bikes is not even a challenge for your home's electrical system. My bike's charger only pulls 185 watts at 1.5 amps while charging, versus the 20-30 amps (at 240 volts) that a level 2 charger uses, so you could charge a lot of bike batteries at once for the same wattage as one level 2 charger. E-bikes are also way cheaper to purchase and operate, and use a rather small fraction of the materials used for an electric car.

[@vman358]

We can not all have EV's with the current population. This is another reason why the WEF are depopulating.

[@Lanatab]

i don't care about scotty, i do own an EV motorbike regardless of what he thinks, but you didn't prove him wrong. heavier vehicles will damaged the roads faster. and Evs are heavier. specially in the winter. because there will be more on the road so the service life of the road will be reduced so he didn't lie. i'm sure goverments will change the road fomular to compensate. and by 3:25 i'm not sure what you're trying to prove so i got bored and moved on.

[@rogerphelps9939]

Wrong. 99% of road damage is done by heavy goods vehicles. The damage is proportional to the cube of the axle weight. EVs are geting lighter but the weight difference has very little impact on road wear.

[@onecookieboy]

What always worries me about the whole of life emissions is who decides what length of time 'whole of life' is?. I live in a country where the aveage age of cars on the road is old, 12 years, which means there are a LOT of old cars still on the road, I personally own 2 cars that are 17 years old and many people are driving in much older cars. What is the actual 'whole of life' for an EV?, do we even know, and what happens and how much will it cost to remove and recycle the battery, and who pays for that? I have read 10 years, some say an EV battery is serviceable for much longer, newer vehicles are definitely better, but there are Leaf's here which are just parked up and no one knows what to do about them, they have under 40km range and the nearest battery recycling centre is overseas and thousands of kilometers away.

[@jamesbramlett5407]

I stopped watching him years ago. Even his subs in the comments, it's mentally draining...like arguing with a flat-earther, Q/Rumper-type.

[@johnnyquid-xj4kk]

It’s bots and trolls

[@morbward8281]

You sound like a diklikker type.

[@bobroof]

We have 2 EV's. Model S and Ioniq 5.

[@godislove025]

He is playing to a base of people who don’t understand anything about EV

[@jakepF1D]

Our household is in that 82%. I replaced my Toyota Yaris with a Chevrolet Bolt 3 years ago. Last year my wife traded in her Nissan Altima for a Kia Niro EV. We have a single charger, and we've never felt the need for a second charger. My wife drives about 100 miles per week commuting and only charges once a week. My commute varies depending on what job site I'm at, but I generally charge every weekday evening. Every Saturday morning my car is charged, and we drive my wife's vehicle on weekends. She plugs in Sunday evening, and we both have fully charged cars (well 88% for mine and 80% for hers as we limit both vehicles) on Monday morning. We both love our EVs, and neither one of us would ever consider buying another ICE vehicle. Also we live in Oregon which generates about 50% of it's energy from renewable sources so we've definitely reduced our carbon footprint significantly.

[@gman9543]

A few other facts you might want to research Ben that I found interesting. The Electric Viking said on his channel that China's EV sales has topped the 50% mark on all vehicles sold there, and that equates to 1 in 3 vehicles sold worldwide being an EV now. Also, another point was that the elements used to build batteries are fully recyclable (unlike fossil fuels which are just gone when used up) and that we are on track to reach peak element usage by something like 2030 (where we can just reuse the stuff that's already been mined without having to mine out more.)

[@morbward8281]

I am sure the Chinese are free to choose any vehicle they want.

[@tom_hoots]

The Viking is more full of BS than Scotty is.

[@natehill8069]

@@morbward8281 Point, OTOH they dont have a huge legacy gas vehicle infrastructure to fight the change either. If USA was switching from horses to cars right now it would be electric and no one would blink an eye.

[@dlandon2000]

You don't need a dedicated charger for each vehicle unless they both need fully charged each day which would be very unlikely. I will consider a second EV and we'd simply rotate who parks in the bay with the charger m,w,f and t,th,s for example. Easy...

[@cranfktubner7677]

There is indeed a ton of misinformation being pushed. Especially with false claims. It's always good to re-align facts. As a motorcycle (Electric) rider i do prefer waiting behind an EV than a big custom F150 blowing smoke all over. Unfortunately lots of people cannot use their own brain to differentiate the right from wrong 🙄

[@Bjaardker]

Another fallacy in Scottie's logic on only having one charger at home is that he thinks everyone needs to charge every day. We have 2 EVS at my home and have no problem sharing a charger since you don't need to charge daily

[@Brian-om2hh]

You'd be amazed at how many EV doubters seem to think an EV needs charging every day....

[@laez]

I’m one of those that bought a Tesla, then 2 months later sold their van and got another Tesla.

[@gusar2000]

Try now other way around 😁

[@JoeMcMorrow-k7e]

My sister in law leased a VW ID3 (not the greatest of EVs by any means) as she was offered an amazing deal. However she likes the car not because it is an EV, or cheaper to run, but because it is so effortless to drive.

[@Maagma007]

Hey Scotty, I’m one of those families that traded both my ICE vehicles for EVs, specifically Teslas. Total repair costs for my 2017 model 3: $0. (Minor issues taken care of during warranty period). I think I’ve spend -$200 in repairs for my 2021 Model Y. So much easier to deal with not having to get oil changes and tune-ups. The Teslas aren’t perfect of course, but I’ve enjoyed not having to constantly service the vehicle just to keep it running. Newer models generally fix the annoyances of the previous years so I can’t think of a reason to ever buy another ICE vehicle again.

[@Trashed20659]

Bought my Ioniq 5 last month ($7500 rebate from Hyundai) and love it so much, I want to get rid of the old Ford Edge and buy another EV. The Edge is in the shop getting "routine" service that's gonna cost me between $700-$1000 for an oil change and spark plug replacement (they are hard to get to), and then they will look at my brakes. At least the tires are okay. Think about it..... if you don't need service, guys like Scotty are out of a job, so what position do you EXPECT him to take?

[@x.kasiouris5503]

Range issues

[@_petar]

Well his statements may not be 100% true but he has a point and getting EV is a big risk/mistake for many, many reasons most people do not even have idea about.

[@davejones5703]

Like with anything, it depends what you purchase.

[@adrpals2324]

You are correct. I heard this from a lot of people that I know and have gotten EVs where I work in Newport Beach CA they all regretted it. The only ones that love it are the ones that live near work. Most said that a hybrid is a better choice. Most of us do not live near where we work. So charging it is a problem. There is no quick charger at work or in their house. My neighbor has 2 EVs and love them but the other day it was towed home. He told me that he ran out of charge. I personally like EVs but don't own one. I like the way the Chinese are doing there EVs that the battery can be replace with a recharge one. That would be quicker than charging and gassing up.

[@bigwatts9694]

These Lithium battery fire are very real, don't turn your back on the problem. We've seen these fires first hand in our travels , at charging stations, driveways, and on the freeways. We are ALWAYS cautious and ready while driving Model 3

[@AlanTov]

Nonsense

[@LifebyDesign]

​@@AlanTovnonsense? What about insurance companies denying to cover homeowners that own EVs?

[@jamesgallagher2434]

ICEs are over 60x more likely to catch fire than EVs.

[@brentsmith-d8h]

You've see battery fires first hand at charging station, driveways AND on the freeways? I think your local fire marshal will want to have a word with you; bring a lawyer.

[@natehill8069]

@@LifebyDesign Citation needed

[@danthonyc.9290]

I watched Scottys video as a interesting point of view. As a seasoned ASE certified master technician. I can most definitely say some things he says is purely incorrect. I actually removed him from my channels that come up. Without going into singular detail to explain his view and videos on ev's. Like most have said the argument on how ev gets their power and mining the lithium etc. The end of life Co2 emissions is always going to much less overall. And now we have over 10 years of data collection thanks to tesla and others we can see the raw real data. I agree there is much to reduce the carbon footprint and Co2 overall but if you compare a few things they are way ahead. 1. With the exception of the battery pack itself the body panels, Interior and seat etc are almost identical to the IC cars. There is a shift to us more carbon neutral components. 2. Less maintenance on the ev. No oil changes intervals every 3000 to 10000 miles many people forget about this every important thing. IC engines still need to have the fuilds changed. Also rear end and transmission fluid for certain other types of vehicles. 3. On the ev side increase wear in tires due to heavier than the IC counterpart Kia Niro is a prime example. 4. Ev's are coming with a vast improvement for safety and technology. Take that as you will hold and bad. Sometimes having all that tech does put a damper on fun of feeling the car. Pure driving feel us what it's most commonly referred to. I wish everyone the best in what ever choice they make for a vehicle going forward. Each EV and IC has its own use case and nothing wrong with making it work for what you need them for. ❤

[@ktm640lc4BGD]

scotty is a boomer caught in modern society tryin to make as much money he can, commenting technology he does not understand. he should talk about engines wit carburetor and just stay there where he was good.

[@tedoptional-p8l]

$.

[@billderinbaja3883]

I think Scotty understands the technology very well. He distorts his message by cherry picking negative arguments against EVs, and positive arguments for ICE cars. This is intentional distortion... some would call it "lying". Why? Clicks... he gets subscribers and views from people seeking confirmation of their biases.

[@johnnyquid-xj4kk]

I think you’re right. He’s not a dumb guy, but he has fallen for the maga narrative and quite a bit of his “info” is straight up Russian talking points. He’s changed his video production, it looks more like he’s pushing propaganda.

[@SimsfanCrystal]

I purchased an EV and I really enjoy it. I didn't even purchase it for environmental reasons (although that is a bonus). I purchased the car because I found it enjoyable to drive and I was tired of all the maintenance costs associated with an ICE vehicle. My husband was skeptical of an all electric vehicle (intimidated I think), until he drove mine a few times (He refused at first, lol). Now he admits the drive is more enjoyable and is seeing the money we have already saved in off peak charging vs gasoline with his older ICE vehicle. Now my husband is considering getting an EV for his next vehicle. It just makes sense for us. We already have home charging installed so he and I can alternate our charging days. We are too old now to keep up with all the maintenance for an ICE vehicle and would prefer to use that money on grandkids and traveling, lol.

[@paulwilliams200]

I am a fan of Scotty Kilmer's channel for ICE and Hybrid cars, however, I totally disagree with his EXTREMELY BIASED attitude to EV's. He regularly highlights disturbing EV stats (as provided by ice-ads-backed corporate media) when the stats on ICE vehicles are often many times worse on a % basis.

[@tedoptional-p8l]

It's going to be hard to ignore EV's when your wife insists on driving the world's safest car, a Tesla.

[@NorwayChallenge]

I will never understand how people manage to watch his videos regularly. He's so exhausting to listen to.

[@davidthomas4489]

Some people are just not ready to make the change despite the data. Just like people were not ready to give up the horse and buggy mode of transportation. Change takes time. I am among the 82% who will buy another EV. I don't miss the lines at the gas stations or the oil changes. I like sitting in my car with the AC running without an engine polluting the air and wasting fuel. Most of the time when I go out to drive my car, it's charged and ready to go and charging stations are not an inconvenience given the benefits. It's a no-brainer.

[@raymond4307]

Also, some people value their time more than other and we live in a modern society where time is very valuable. So, one can understand the skeptics. People who adopt EV know what the trade offs are since most of them came from ICE cars. Most of the folks a spoke with will not adopt EV just because it doesn’t make sense to them

[@davidthomas4489]

@@raymond4307 Very true!

[@hogwelder505]

I talk to a man that worked on the road ways, he told me that the trucks that do the most damage are the over loaded trucks. The roads are engineered for a loads that a legal for the number of wheels that the trucks have.

[@pinkelephants1421]

Well, EV's aren't necessarily heavier. It depends on which individual model you're talking about. In some cases a large SUV EV for example, can be up to 100kg (lighter) than their gas powered equivalent. Here in the UK we get A LOT of that heavier nonsense and how they will collapse multistorey carparks etc. All rather tiresome at the end of the day. Just more FUD.

[@ContraVsGigi]

@@pinkelephants1421 Kind of doubt it. In the future, when better batteries might exist, sure. But not today.

[@pinkelephants1421]

@FlorinArjocu What do you mean - when batteries might exist? I don't understand. Thanks.

[@ContraVsGigi]

@@pinkelephants1421 It is "better batteries". Smaller, lighter ones.

[@pinkelephants1421]

@@ContraVsGigi Ahhh. The curse of the autocorrect...😅

[@MrPabsUk]

A petrol Range Rover weighs around 2800kg, a Tesla Model Y Performance weighs 4200kg, which is roughly what an unladen 7.5 ton lorry weighs. Please tell me which Large EV SUV`s weigh less than their ICE counterparts.

[@ElroyMcDuff]

EV owner here. I would 100% buy another EV if/when the time comes. According to the car's app I save over $1,000 a year by not buying gasoline. Granted, EV owners are hit with higher registration fees (to make up for not paying gas tax) and more expensive tires (to handle the weight and run quieter) so it probably evens out.

[@natehill8069]

Mostly the tires are lower rolling resistance (read harder) to increase range. The weight is negligible.

[@rexcharles11]

We started with one Model 3, after replacing my BMW 4 series with the Model 3. So we had a Model 3 and a CX-5. Four years later, I got the Y and the wife loved it. A year later, I swapped out the Y for a Model X and the wife kept the Y; sold the Model 3 and CX-5. Definitely more likely to buy EVs in our experience. No reason not to. P.S. appreciate the podcast

[@stevewest131]

I think people who have never owned an EV realise just how good they are. Smooth, reliable, quiet and so cheap to run.

[@Werdna12345]

2:35 US allows EV semis to be 82,000 pounds including load

[@benjamineikelenboom5332]

The biggest reason for me not buying a EV there more expensive than ICE and i dont have a private parking spot so charching the car will be a nightmare

[@riccochet704]

That right there is the #1 reason we'll never be 100% EV. Especially in cities where parking is not conventional.

[@brentsmith-d8h]

@@riccochet704 We'll get there eventually. I'm sure 100 years ago some guy was saying "I can feed my horse hay whenever I want, but they will NEVER build enough gas stations for all those horseless carriages that Mr. Ford is producing!"

[@riccochet704]

@@brentsmith-d8h Clearly you are missing the point. In a lot of cities there is no place for people to charge their vehicles overnight. When I lived in NE Philly there was street parking only, maybe, if you were lucky to park in front of where you live. What are they going to do? Line the streets with chargers? 500,000 chargers? Think about that for a second. Then think how many cities there are. Then look at the timeline our government wants to be 100% EV by. The numbers add up to "not a chance in hell".

[@NoTimeForThatNow]

​@@brentsmith-d8hexactly!

[@NoTimeForThatNow]

In 2 years you will spend so much more for gas than for electricity that it will start saving you money. Not to mention it saves time. I agree that only applies (for now) if you charge at home or if your job or a nearby parking lot provides inexpensive options for charging, it's not the perfect solution for everyone, but that's no reason for people like Scotty Kilmer to take a dump on the cars and their owners.

[@geoffberry1874]

I can't watch this, blinders are on

[@Joe-lb8qn]

Reminds me of the cartoon "what if global warming isnt true and we've cleaned up the polluted air we breathe for nothing"?

[@morbward8281]

Drink some more koolaid.

[@Trashed20659]

That's hilarious. You still cleaned up polluted air!

[@turkeyssr]

Global warming cannot be stopped assuming it's even true.

[@chrisschneiders6734]

That's been my theory for a 15. ...18 years..have a pretty bright family member who's been fighting for environmental issues for 35 years.

[@natehill8069]

I didnt buy an EV because of cleaner air. I bought an EV because its faster, quieter, cheaper to run, more reliable (assuming they put the same level of engineering into the EV that they do in ICE and dont intentionally sabotage it, like the infamous GM Diesel), roomier, much less likely to catch fire, dont have to go to gas stations anymore and, if society collapses (until the roads collapse also) I can still drive on home solar, wind or microhydro - whereas I can NOT make gasoline (or at least have not intention to do so). But I love the fact that I also do make the air cleaner (altho the Honda it replaced was already an ULEV) - whether its global warming or not, I like BREATHING.

[@xjdisuehd]

If the Rivian was actually 170kWh, they'd be shouting that from every roof they could find.

[@quintinrafferty7232]

Most ppl that go ev never go back to ice.

[@Maurus200]

I always find it hilarious how people say electric vehicle are so dirty because of the production chain as if the production chain wont get cleaner over time. For example, trucks carrying the batteries to get installed may currently be diesel but will eventually get converted to battery power thus making that part of the process cleaner.

[@benmitsuda]

The argument about not buying a second EV is so dumb. I'm a three car household with one Model 3 and 2 ICE cars. My next car will absolutely be an EV. But I won't install a second charger. I'll either alternate nights charging (I could usually go at least 2-3 days without charging so no big deal) or I'll by a simple Level 1 charger to trickle charge if needed. The cost savings on Gas and maintenance alone makes EVs so superior to ICE cars, I don't understand the hesitancy.

[@jamesaustralian9829]

Thermal runaway is a pretty decent detterant. I'd rather my house remain standing.

[@vicvalliant1092]

@@jamesaustralian9829 But you are happy to have a tank of petrol in the garage. I cant see the difference. The risk profile seems similar to me. You are more likely to have a fire on the bedside cabinet where you charge your phone!

[@gilathiel]

We are also a 3 car household, but with 2 EVs(Mini Cooper SE, Chevy Bolt EUV) and 1 ICE for our daughter. We have no need to have 2 chargers. I only need to plug the Bolt in at most twice a week(always charging it overnight) and the Mini whenever it gets below 50%(usually 3 times a week). What Scotty fails to understand is that charging an EV is not the same as putting gas in an ICE. He is trying to make people think that you run the battery all the way down and then charge it only once it gets close to empty, and that for some reason both EVs would always be empty and need "re-fueled" at the same time. This is never the case when you have a home charger, and for most EV owners, 1 charger would be adequate for multiple EVs in the household.

[@jerrellbevers6071]

​@@jamesaustralian9829 Why don't you look up how often that happens vs fires caused from gas in the home and get back to us with those ground breaking facts. I've just built a new shed and added a 50 amp plug for an EV that I don't even own yet. I'm not exactly sure when I will be in the market for a new car but it will be an EV without a doubt. My whole house is already a trailer that is 100% electric, going solar with EV's is literally a no-brainer as the most valuable thing I can add to my house to make it the best return on investment for whoever gets my house in the future. A free home with no electric or water bills (water catchment in place as well), a near zero maintainence vehicle with a gas station built into the house.

[@brawnbenson552]

I was a fan of Scotty’s channel. His videos got too repetitive, boring and predictable, (and oftentimes untrue) How many times did he say “goodbye” “my last video”??? 😂 I unsubscribed two years ago, I haven’t looked back. Keep your eyes out for FUD. Thank you Ben, for being as accurate as possible with your channel.

[@lookingfordrama01]

How bad is lithium mining for the environment? Is Lithium Mining Bad For The Environment? Stats And Facts Every tonne of mined lithium results in 15 tonnes of CO2 emissions in the environment. In addition, it is estimated that about 500,000 litres of water are needed to mine approximately 2.2 million litres per tonne of lithium. This substantially impacts the environment, lead

[@raffiefoxmew3691]

What do you think the impact to the environment is of pumping billions of barrels of oil out of the ground every year does? Plus transport, shipping and storage, with the occasional whoopsie there goes another vast marine habitat oil spill every few years or so? It ain't a few holes of mined lithium, can say that much.

[@lookingfordrama01]

@@raffiefoxmew3691 WHEN THE FACTS DONT SUPPORT YOU NARRATIVE YOU LIE. SCIENCE IS SCIENCE FACTS ARE FACTS.😂😂😂

[@lookingfordrama01]

@@raffiefoxmew3691 In 2023, the total mine production volume of cobalt worldwide stood at an estimated 230,000 metric tons. This represented the largest production figure reported during the period in consideration. The Democratic Republic of the Congo is by far the world's leading cobalt producer, with an output of 170,000 metric tons in 2023.

[@lookingfordrama01]

In 2023, the world produced a record high of 180,000 metric tons of lithium, which is a significant increase from 2010, when global production was about 28,100 metric tons. Here are some other recent lithium production statistics: 2022: Global production was 130,000 tonnes, a 23% increase from 2021 2021: Global production was over 104,000 tonnes, a record high 2018: Global production was 95,000 tonnes 2017: Global production was 69,000 tonnes 2016: Global production was 38,000 tonnes 2013: Global production was 34,000 tonnes The top lithium producing countries in 2023 were: Australia: The world leader, with an estimated output of 86,000 metric tons Chile: Ranked second, with an estimated output of 44,000 metric tons China: Ranked third, with an estimated output of 33,000 metric tons The two leading lithium producers in the world are Sociedad Quimica y Minera de Chile S.A. (SQM) and Albemarle

[@koda2016]

Scotty is like that uncle that everyone in the family trusts, except the one nephew that calls out his bullshit

[@lookingfordrama01]

Electric cars are NOT as green as you think (and some are worse polluters than petrol!) GUY WALTERS provides a reality check about the vehicles

[@AlanTov]

Made up nonsense

[@davejones5703]

🤣🤡

[@Brian-om2hh]

Although as renewable energy generation capacity increases, an EV gets cleaner. You won't ever be able to say that about a car that runs on fossil fuel....plus older EV battery packs can be 95% recycled, with the lithium and cobalt being 90% recovered and reused hundreds of times. Nobody anywhere is recycling and reusing old burned gas/petrol or diesel.

[@DanoFSmith-yc9tg]

Just like how the weight of EV Trucks is insignificant when you consider semi trucks, passenger vehicle emissions for ICE engines is insignificant when you compare them to unregulated ocean going shipping vessels. If you actually want to help save the earth and go green, dont go out and buy an EV, just stop buying junk off amazon, or more specifically junk from overseas. I think its 1 ocean vessel emits more carbon in 1 hour than every passenger car in the US does in a year. And now we want chinese EVs.... Ok then... Good luck with that.

[@thatcarguy1UZ]

I'm a Scotty Kilmer fan, but I don't care what he has to say outside of automotive repair. I completely disagree with him about battery electric vehicles and even hybrids. He's not comfortable with them, and so he has a bias against them. I'm not a Tesla fan, but I like EVs, and I'm actually concerned that Tesla is going to have a negative impact on the long-term viability of EVs, much like GM's disasterous Oldsmobile 350 diesel did on diesel passengercars in the 1980s. With that said, I don't think EVs are anywhere close to saving us either. We need a massive overhaul of public transportation in this country. We need to make our living areas more walkable and bikeable and increase the amount of public transportation options available to make them fast clean and efficient. EVs are better than internal combustion engine cars, no doubt. But they're still far less efficient than a well-engineered and properly run public transportation infrastructure that also utilizes micro-mobility and walking, bicycling, etc. To be honest, with the current level of battery technology that we have, I think a plug-in hybrid is the ideal EV. It reduces the amount of lithium mining necessary and provides a battery that has adequate range for most people's daily driving needs, which means that most people could plug it in every night and go months without the internal combustion engine ever having to start. But, when a longer range is necessary, you have an internal combustion engine and an extremely efficient hybrid electric drivetrain that can get you from Philadelphia to Los Angeles.

[@BenSullinsOfficial]

100% agree on the public transportation thing, unfortunately I don’t think there is enough incentive there. Thanks for sharing!

[@markboscawen8330]

An emerging issue with PHEVs & emissions is fundamentally people get into lazy habits. So instead of charging the smaller battery frequently they start to rely on the ICE for all travel. Which then increases emissions over what they would have been because now the ICE powertrain is using extra fuel to move the deadweight of the battery. Also, the reduced battery size increases the depth of charge/discharge cycles - which can reduce battery lifespan. If range decreases the time the PHEV will be powered by the ICE will increase - again increasing emissions. No doubt cost pressures will encourage some to not replace a dead battery & just drive it like a full time ICE vehicle - substantially increasing emissions. So from the objective of decreasing emissions PHEVs will increasingly be a fail. As to hybrids, they’re a ICE wolf in EVs clothing. So even worse.

[@vicvalliant1092]

The trouble with public transport is it is massively capital expensive which needs to come from someones pocket and doesn't go where you need to. Not sure about efficiency with empty busses and trains running at times people don't want to travel etc. This is why people jumped off the trains when cars arrived. Cars gave freedom. The only way public transport will ever work is for people to give up freedom or be forced to give up freedom which is more likely.

[@thatcarguy1UZ]

@vicvalliant1092 That's absolutely false because public transportation works everywhere else in the world. Furthermore, public transportation in the United States was the envy of the rest of the world until General Motors, Firestone Rubber, and Standard Oil formed "American City Lines" after World War II when the public transportation system was run down due to lack of materials during the war. So they bribed certain officials and came in and bought up streetcar networks and replaced them with GM's crappy buses purposely to make public transportation less convenient and less pleasant. The reason that this occurred was specifically because these companies were aggravated that many people who lived in cities saw no need to own cars, so they destroyed all that infrastructure specifically to sell cars. Further, it's not an either or proposition. I have family in europe. Many of whom own cars but, they don't have to drive everywhere because they have a decent public transportation system that gets them where they want to go and they use the car for special or specific circumstances.

[@NoTimeForThatNow]

I own 2 EVs, a 2019 model 3 and a 2024 model Y. I bought the 3 because i had a long commute and it saved me money every month. When my daughter graduated HS I gifted it to her and drove my old Prius for a while until I bought the Y. We only have and only need the one level 2 charger at home. We park our cars outside and can charge them without any special parking arrangements. The tesla wall connector has a long enough cable to reach both just fine.

[@USACars-id3bf]

Talking to EV people about EVs is like talking to a bowl of Corn Flakes

[@jessevallantine825]

Maybe don't talk to a bowl of corn flakes... I'd start questioning your sanity. Although corn flakes can be wholesome

[@stephenjones7804]

I think it pays a lot more criticising EV's than trying to provide a balanced view. Thank you for your content.

[@Brian-om2hh]

Definitely. Here in the UK, there are a handful of EV haters who have jumped on the bandwagon quite early on, with some of them now topping 200k+ subscribers. They are making enough money to make it worth them continuing to do it. But of course this won't last, as EV uptake gradually increases. They'll eventually be like a polar bear on a melting iceberg, with clicks on their videos slowly diminishing......

[@carlosagiljr1467]

All right I get it that your fact checking Scotty... Right now the EVS don't look good at all as far as owning one and yes the damage it does to the road because of their weight. Let's be correct about this long-term yes the EVs long-term may be cleaner but if it gets there because EVS are not as reliable as gas engines let's say like Toyota. Keep in mind it's going to take about another 10 to 20 years before we actually get the benefits of better technology for eevee's! The number show right now for Ev's are horrible because people are getting rid of them no longer want to deal with the issues especially after you buy a EV.

[@natehill8069]

Amazing - with the possible exception of the punctuation there is not a single correct thing in your entire post.

[@dwainalfred4151]

Please note finding one survey saying that individuals MIGHT buy a second EV is NOT data. I have np with an EV but you need to be honest. I did a lot of research before I decided my next car would be and EV. There are lots of considerations to be considered.

[@robmagee100]

I’ve noticed an uptick in the anti-ev posts lately, despite my blocking lots of those sources. Of course some of the increase points to Elon’s questionable political statements enough so that some of my friends say they could never own a vehicle associated with him…. I wish he would stop, but he probably won’t. He is responsible for the accelerating transition to sustainable energy though, and that , in my opinion, is more important than his current politics. As for considering rebuying an EV, if my 2018 Model 3 ever needs replacing in my lifetime, which I doubt, I would NEVER consider going back to the dark ages of ICE cars!

[@natehill8069]

Teslas market share of EVs has dropped below half. USA doesnt have nearly as many EVs (particularly smaller, cheaper ones especially since Chevy dropped the Bolt) as Europe but there are still 6 or 8 brands of EV that are pretty good but have nothing to do with Elon.

[@robmagee100]

@@natehill8069 Tesla has 4 Gigafactories now, with plans for several more, and Tesla is, I believe, the only major manufacturer that is actually making a profit on each EV sold because of their hard engineering work on the machine that makes the machine. Tesla's are built to last far longer than regular cars, so the impact is far greater than other cars... especially hybrids.

[@brentsmith-d8h]

Saying you need two chargers for two cars is like saying your gas station needs a separate pump for EACH of its customers. You can swap one charger back and forth between multiple cars every night. Also, they make chargers that can plug into two cars at the same time, if that is how you want to roll. Seriously, that argument was just....bad.

[@missgibsen6767]

Just talk to any fireman, they'll tell you how dangerous and real these Fires are. Better yet, ask their families

[@18837dc]

@@missgibsen6767 20+ year career Firefighter here..... I have been to plenty of ice vehicle fires in my time.... I have not been to 1 EV fire yet.... so.......yeah...... ice vehicles are still going on fire more often.

[@endofunk2174]

@@18837dc That's because there's a very small amount of EVs in the wild... far too expensive for average consumers.

[@18837dc]

@@endofunk2174 I see plenty of EVs driving around... perhaps not equal to the amount of ice, but I definitely see them around. Don't believe the FUD being spread around.

[@endofunk2174]

@@18837dc Whether you like the facts or not, is inconsequential to reality; EVs make up less than 1% of motor vehicles worldwide.

[@reachblowsdick7222]

@@18837dc - I saw an EV burning last year at a red light near a highway, the cops were already there and waiting for firefighters. Strange that I'm not a firefighter and I saw something a 20+ year veteran like you has not. Just because it doesn't happen around YOU, doesn't mean it's not happening somewhere else.

[@danielbonner8309]

How bout the Rivian plant that just caught fire😮

[@1JohnnyCruiser]

EVs are going to put guys like Scotty out of business

[@levenkay4468]

Not in his lifetime. Hopefully, they'll soon replace ICE _manufacturing,_ but for awhile after that, there'll be even MORE business for mechanics like Scotty to keep the increasingly aged antique tech running. Just what he'll do for spare parts, once those stop being made, will be interesting, though.

[@raymond4307]

Do you think ICE vehicles are going away anytime soon? 🥱🥱🥱

[@Brian-om2hh]

That is why he has a huge chip on his shoulder about them.... But no matter, this is happening whether the likes of Scotty want it or not.....

[@1JohnnyCruiser]

@Brian-om2hh Scotty got a 4 year reprieve with Trump going in. Over all I don't trust the BS from Reuters, Car and Track, Motor Trend.

[@walkerscranger]

When you use data and facts about EV's it is very hard to look away. I've been driving EV for 10 years and I will never buy another gasoline vehicle because at this point I can't justify the purchase of a combustion engine vehicle in my usage. I was a automotive technician at GM and Nissan dealerships then I moved on to teaching automotive at a technical college. Scotty was definitely a talking point, but he was mostly wrong about everything.

[@humming-birdaerialimaging682]

I was also a tech for Cadillac, and Toyota, back in the day, and feel very much the same way. I have only had an EV for a few months now (after 50 years of ICE) but will never go back either.

[@KingSal98]

Eh liars with a liar

[@2big2climb]

Thanks for taking the time to do this, we need to move toward the greater good.

[@6maxwell99]

You're not taking my gas vehicle away for me. I won't go kicking and screaming.

[@steelyspielbergo]

I remember people saying this about incandescent lightbulbs. Ridiculous isn't it?

[@natehill8069]

​@@steelyspielbergo People said the same about horses. Typewriters. Fighter planes with propellers. Fountain pens. Oil lamps. Coal cooking stoves. Ice boxes. Any improvement always has Luddites singing the blues.

[@natehill8069]

Then you should be happy people are giving them up and decreasing the demand for gas so prices go down. Youll never get me out of my EV, I love losing track of the price of gas every day and never having to worry about being low on fuel.

[@somestuffithoughtyoumightl6985]

Scotty speaks my language and tells it like it is; he’s going to disrupt the auto industry like no other. I believe anything Scotty says.

[@PygKLB]

Ben, you should try ‘Auto Expert John Cadogan’-Australia’s version of Scotty Kilmer.

[@dogphlap6749]

I'm 100% in agreement with you PygKLB. I blocked his content years ago.

[@BenSullinsOfficial]

Send me a specific video. The stuff I saw was all just drama, no real FUD

[@dogphlap6749]

@@BenSullinsOfficial I don't have anything current because I blocked his content years ago but I do recall him making outrageous claims as to the losses on transmission lines, sub stations and house wiring.

[@greenenergydr]

That guy is useless for anything beyond welding technique.

[@Pvsingh0314]

Thank you for the update! I want to add a perspective that many gas vehicle owners miss. When gas powered vehicle first were invented they were in direct competition to horse and carriage. Imagine how many horse owners said the same thing you are saying. “These machines will never be reliable as my horse.” Or “My horse eats grass which is free and doesn’t need gas.” My point being is that we as humans tend to gripe about innovations in the first stage. Yes, everything has a downside in the beginning but they improve with time. Be open minded. Also, do you live paying high prices on gas? I know I don’t!

[@Slimrick310]

I'd rather listen to Scotty then a bunch of EV liberals

[@davejones5703]

🤣🤡

[@jaypazole4086]

"EV liberals" god damn what a troglodyte

[@jsanders100]

Because you don’t want to hear the truth

[@natehill8069]

Regardless of subject Id rather listen to a cat coughing up a hairball than Scotty, he has such a whiny voice its grating.

[@edwardthompson9981]

Don't burn you cat on the grill.

[@Crypto_Circus]

EVs overall are better cars, just facts. I have a EQE, no oils changes, no services, no issues. Charge at home, no reason to waste time at a gas station.

[@jasonparker9367]

How about the ev Mercedes in an underground Korean parking garage that burst into flames and burned 850 other cars and knocked out water and power for 1,600 residents for 7 days.

[@fuzzymonkey777]

EV's get like 125 mpg Equivalent. No oil changes. No spark plugs. 90% fewer moving parts means fewer repair bills. The writing is on the wall.