The Ukrainian men fleeing the draft: ‘Not everyone is a warrior’ - BBC World Service Documentaries

Since Russia’s invasion, Ukraine has banned men of fighting age from leaving the country unless they have a valid exemption.
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A #BBCEyeInvestigation found that nearly 20,000 men have fled the country illegally since the beginning of the war to avoid being drafted. A further 21,000 have tried to leave but were caught by the Ukrainian authorities. Many got out by crossing the border illegally, others paid substantial bribes to buy a medical exemption.
BBC Eye hears from the men who made it out hoping to be reunited with their families now living abroad.
00:00 Intro
1:27 We speak to Ukraine's Border Service in Tyachiv
4:06 Numbers are even higher at the Moldovan border
5:15 Yevgeny from Kyiv tells us why he wanted to leave
6:41 How do men like Yevgeny attempt to cross the border?
8:10 What's a ‘White Ticket’? Why is it pricey? We go undercover to find out
11:13 Government response to military recruitment corruption
11:53 Meet Erik - he couldn't get an exemption despite disability
14:46 How crossing the border across the Tysa River can be dangerous
16:59 Yevgeny's journey
18:53 Erik reunites with his family
20:23 ‘Is it worth persecuting those who have left?’, we ask Fedir Venislavskyi, a senior politician from the ruling party
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[@BBCWorldService]

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[@Beedee46]

Sod off BBC Lackeys.

[@3m4il]

You mean subscribe to your propaganda? Pass.

[@imtiazakand3174]

They dont want to die for americas interest( subjugate russia).

[@stevenmartin8828]

​@@joeysinde1340👈🤡scared of the truth

[@nhlanhlamakhubu4666]

no

[@ThisHandleWasTheOnly1Available]

Where are Vitaly Klitschko's sons? They're 18 and 23. Where are Oleksyi Danilov's three sons? They're in their 30s. Oh, that's right!! They're all abroad, either in the US, UK or EU. NONE OF THEM ARE ON THE FRONTLINES. Same goes for all Ukrainian politicians' sons.

[@jatrubka1]

In Ukraine they say that children of officials serve in the Monaco battalion

[@MaksymMinenko]

Only men from 26 to 60 years old are conscripted.

[@wildrift1vs975]

@@jatrubka1haha you made me spill my drink

[@GeorgiRusev]

Dmitrii Gordon's sons as well.

[@avenged42]

And where are the russian politicians sons? 🤔 😅

[@Legyun]

Women wont be marching for equality regarding this!

[@mathewvanostin7118]

Women in ukraine were very feminist post 2000 But since war, traditional women again 😂😂😂

[@imtiazakand3174]

They dont want to die for americas interest subjugate russia.

[@FHIPrincePeter]

​@@mathewvanostin7118 Worse yet, they leave their relationships and marry foreign Men.

[@octavian6323]

@@FHIPrincePeter because the foreign men are smarter

[@FHIPrincePeter]

@@octavian6323 I thought it was to gain nationality in a foreign Land that is not at war.

[@kaiserwilly4234]

8 years in jail is better than being dead for an eternity.

[@samvarupa2929]

cawords

[@tboy80z]

Nazis forcing them to fight. Smh Please wake up Ukraine! Russia is NOT your enemy.

[@tboy80z]

​@@samvarupa2929They can flee for a better life. People shouldn't keep fighting wars for the BIG guy to get rich.

[@tboy80z]

I bet the BBC crew reported the Ukrainians trying to flee this war. Smh

[@sergeyshok7052]

That’s bullshit about 8 years in jail. There’s no such law. The only penalty you get when illegally crossing the border is a fine of around $100.

[@terenceinasia1216]

I am Canadian living in Vietnam, we have Ukrainians living here that left Ukraine and they have told me upwards of 8 million have made it out... of course many left legally but the numbers BBC are reporting sound ridiculously low...

[@IsaacMuntz]

Because BBC is a propaganda machine what else do you expect from these lying scums who push certain narratives

[@blackriders3509]

@terence at their height, they only had 40 million citizens living in Ukraine. If 35 million were Ukrainians, that means 17.5 million males. If they are lucky, that would leave them with 10 - 11.5 million between 18-60. If 8 million left, they would never have been able to field a standing army

[@CensorshipGenesis]

I don't have much of a social life to speak of. But even without fuzzing around. I count at least 8 Ukrainian men as my neighbors. I've seen another one (9th) but I'm not sure if he lives here or was just visiting. Either case I'm pretty sure it's way more people than BBC is transpiring. Curious detail, all are relatively young men. The older ones topping at mid 30's...

[@blackriders3509]

@@CensorshipGenesis You should blackmail them. Tell them you think they are cowards, act real disgusted & then propose they each give you $10/day & you won’t turn them in to intelligence services. You could get $2400-$2700/month from them. Think it over

[@Sh311Sh0ck3d]

Its the BBC, what do you expect.

[@Yizahi]

Lieutenant of border guard saying that "he can't judge people" was a refreshingly honest take.

[@shqiperia60]

What is there a greater honor then to fight and give your life for ypur country, if my country was at war i wouldnt think it twice………

[@inquir2283]

​@@shqiperia60you wouldn't think twice and be on the first train/bus out

[@rafomic4210]

​@@shqiperia60Kosovo is serbia

[@romko-romario]

@@rafomic4210 let me ask, how does Kosovo-Serbia issue relate to the topic of the current video? Have you found some parallels in the aspect of draft?

[@matthewmeyer347]

Why would Russian ethnics (30% of Ukraine) fight Russia?

[@rccle1023]

I don’t blame them. It’s a death sentence. A generation of men Military age have already died

[@brent4073]

Think about all those dead guys who got friendzoned by Ukrainian women who are now living abroad dating foreigners. We honestly live in a clown world until reality hits home and its too late. Women shouldnt be able to vote.

[@RogueSecret]

Imagine if their leader and ours wanted dipolmacy instead...

[@boloyeung3568]

They are cowards!

[@DimaKuzko-ck2pe]

​@@boloyeung3568Those who crossed the Berlin wall or fled with the DPRK were also cowards.

[@jailbreaker1214]

For every man on the battlefield there has to be the one that cooks, fills sand bags, drives trucks, deliver ammunition....infantry soldiers aren't the only kind of soldier. Not all men who are drafted get stuck in a trench.

[@Hierax415]

I didn't work a job I hated for 20 years paying taxes the entire time all while enduring the hardships of parenting to have my son blown apart by a shell. My country has honestly been pretty good to me and my family. But the day my politicians claim to have the right to put my son in harms way while they hide behind him is the day I drive him to the border myself.

[@karayuschij]

"Ukraine needs all the soldiers it can get" The correct sentence is "The U.S. (BlackRock, Monsanto, Cargill, Dupont and the entire U.S. military arms industry) needs all the Ukrainian soldiers it can get..." Ukraine needs PEACE!

[@user-oo8zt1sc1c]

That's all, you said it right.

[@turdburglar123]

You are one of the very few people who understand what this situation is

[@montanaoneill9262]

Exactly!!❤

[@v_for_vercis]

Sad but true.

[@TemplarX2]

What are you suggesting? Let the orks take Ukraine?

[@futureshock_uk]

"My body my choice" apparently doesn't apply in these situations.

[@romananikin5345]

It applies only for CIS women appartently. where is gender equality?

[@BenPotter93]

@@romananikin5345The second this war kicked off, gender equality went out the window.

[@romananikin5345]

@@BenPotter93 I don't care. We need gender equality.

[@eagleclaw1179]

@@romananikin5345 Don’t you mean women? So you believe women should be fighting on the front lines?

[@DarkShroom]

why not?... if i as a man am forced to it seems only fair@@eagleclaw1179

[@jorgecruz1235]

In every war, ask the politicians and war hawks if their sons are fighting in the war. They never are. They are off abroad living lavishly. Most soldiers are from poor and working class background defending a state that doesn’t even care about them

[@arsenal_84]

Yup, similar to hamas leadership. Top politicians relaxing else where.

[@csuporj]

Defending the houses they cannot afford to buy. They are so brainwashed that they go to die for the landlords.

[@edwarddeere4925]

@@arsenal_84similar to the US

[@DETSRC313]

Similar to every powerful country for centuries. It's the same way across history. I think the Romans are the last people who wanted the family to be involved in military based on "strength"

[@Spaceface3]

Of course not, you’ll never see US politicians or Billionaires kids being sent to wars

[@Traveltillyoubroke]

Ironical how people who are sitting in offices and not in front line saying : not taking part in war is coward behavior.

[@darbstrebor8811]

I remember a time when East Germany use to arrest it's citizens for trying to leave , North Korea still does .Add Ukraine to the list

[@anthonyfuqua6988]

If the U.S. had a general mobilization, it would be illegal to flee the U.S.

[@JoshDavies111]

How many Ukrainian men have been executed by their own. We will likely never know the extent. I've seen plenty of examples

[@johnvanderven1389]

……and our government is telling us we should support this country that is no better than North Korea or the old East Germany.

[@nandofim]

anthonyfuqua6988 Add the usa to that shameful list.

[@anthonyfuqua6988]

@nandofim It's not shameful for mobilizing when your country goes to total war and the economy is put on a war footing. It's the responsibility of a citizen to answer the call when your country faces an existential threat. I'm not talking about Iraq or Afghanistan though, but if a World War broke out or war with China or Russia, you should be registered and travel restrictions put in place. Russians who had money fled after the Ukraine War broke out. Almost all Ukrainians want to fight Russia. There's always some that try to flee though.

[@violet-trash]

Thousands have crossed the river, 19 bodies have been recovered. Sounds like much better odds than the war.

[@notmenotme614]

In Italy, we call immigrants “good swimmers”. Maybe Italy will do well in the next Olympics?

[@doithimaceabhard7457]

I don't think that means thousand swam across that river and 19 was the bodies recovered, not all those that died

[@user-ij4jj7on1v]

​@@notmenotme614😂I'm also gonna swim and maybe in italy

[@lillexus5589]

​​@@notmenotme614don't forget the massive wave of the doctors and engineers that will surely bring the average pay down a bit in those sectors😂 no protests yet?

[@Mark-in8ju]

Starship Troopers (book) is right about voting!

[@grsafran]

That young border guard seems like he understands why people would leave and is himself relieved he isn't on the front line

[@joek600]

he most probably is the son of somedy or payed enough to be posted in a safe place, the corruption and money changing hands in Ukraine has always been the way things worked but now its off the charts

[@BirgerJarl-it5lz]

Thats why they can put them to use in other areas. War is more then fighting. They can make camouflage nets, repair vehicles, be cooks, military police, repair and make drones etc. Fleeing the country is cowardice treason and worse then death

[@yolandascholten2012]

Exactly, border control is different to being used as cannon fodder on the front lines.

[@Spyhook]

There is a conspiracy of silence. He knows what will happen if he says what he really thinks

[@RollcageHiggins]

The same crime on the english border

[@anthonyjames7532]

Well, let's face it, if you're having to do this to win a war then you've already lost.

[@snotellekS]

NOT EVERYONE IS WILLING TO DIE FOR RICH OLD MEN

[@alirad108]

you have high ukranian officials stealing the international money , and then they are calling the people that dont want to fight TRAITORS ? pathetic

[@laetitialogan2017]

100 % agree

[@hello81642]

Both corrupt officials and those men leaving in time of war are both traitors.

[@beardown2193]

Proof for your assumptions

[@user-gw6mm3hh2y]

Українські політики дуже цинічні, колишній міністр оборони був замічений на корупції ,але його відправили послом в іншу країну

[@hello81642]

@@user-gw6mm3hh2y you are probably a russian troll or paid russian commentator. A regular Ukrainian would usually refer to their politicians as "our politicians", not as "Ukrainian politicians".

[@smoothshot9562]

Funny thing is I can almost guarantee these young border force guys got this handy job due to bribery or nepotism

[@blacmagicwand]

Offcos. Their well connected families probably sorted officials to give them this job rather than being obliterated in the front

[@ZenioDovgj]

Most of them were drafted before the war when they were 18-19. You need to volunteer to go to war if you are not yet 27

[@moorechester]

You're 100% right. They're relatives or friends of some "right" people.

[@zenonka3748]

Ukrainians have no national identity because the country not even 90 years ago was 1/3 Poland and 2/3 Russian so how do you expect them to have a strong national identity... Second the country of ukraine was established by the na*zis after 2nd WW... Third they don't even know what they are russian or polish. They think they're ukrainian but it's just a name nothing else.. Take Poland as example where during 2nd WW even Old ladies and children were fighting both Na*zis and Commies... That's a Strong nation! unlike ukraine... So don't expect their man to fight for something which they have no clue about.

[@oggaBugga]

@@ZenioDovgj "You need to volunteer to go to war if you are not yet 27"...who told you that BS?

[@Wanamaker1946]

Why would anyone want to die for Black Rock? Why?

[@ohdearism]

Blackpool rock?

[@SNIFFtheBOX]

this comment is under respected

[@JVlk-tw6fs]

Exactly, they pushed that law during the war, sold the land and wonder why people don't want to fight anymore.

[@Wanamaker1946]

@@ohdearism BlackRock owns millions of acres in Ukraine. Why?

[@ohdearism]

@@Wanamaker1946 BlackRock owns millions of acers all over the planet. I would assume, like any multinational conglomerate, it's because Ukraine is a major source of two of the world's most sought after commodities. Bread and cooking oil.

[@Nick-vz6vc]

For the first time in the history of the planet, 20-year-old bullies, many of whom already have children of their own, are hunting 59-year-old grandfathers in the streets and try to force them to protect the bullies.

[@dominicdalton4346]

Did you forget about WW2 and WW1? This is not the first time people were forced to fight in wars. This has been going on since before the roman empire. Your whole statement is false and misleading.

[@MyrtifoliaLimblinii]

Rich people left the country and others are forced to go to war. Save people not territory!

[@sashaswan-nq1ov]

Zelenskiy cares less about the lives lost

[@TheMrbouyou]

@@sashaswan-nq1ovok russian bot

[@curbonn]

Rich people and women!

[@saamohod]

People won't be saved if Russia occupies Ukraine.

[@sanich0811]

10 million Ukrainians, mostly of working and military age, left the country: women, people under 18 years of age and a number of men from the occupied territories. This is more than 25% of the population of Ukraine. There was too much rich people in Ukraine.

[@ZenioDovgj]

Why aren't you showing how males are hunted like animals on ukrainian streets, pushed to busses, beaten and forced to fight?!

[@taiven.lechevalier]

It’s true. I was there as a volunteer, and literally the only job that the military police had was to stop all of the men they found not in uniform and ask them why they weren’t fighting. I was stopped once by the military police and they were very disappointed when I produced my volunteer card and US passport card and therefore they couldn’t conscript me against my will.

[@romko-romario]

As a Ukrainian who has escaped this nightmare, I totally agree. Thanks for sharing this information with the international community, because a lot of people under the influence of mass-media still think this ghetto is a democratic country. Violence and slavery can't be used to defend freedom: once used, there is no freedom left anymore. It's a war of one evil against another.

[@CK-cz6ml]

​@taiven.lechevalier a Call of Duty volunteer?

[@daya820]

Only in Russia that happens.

[@ZenioDovgj]

@@daya820 This crap doesn't happen in ruzzia. They have enough xxx who are fine exchanging lives for money.

[@stevenloewen8875]

The average life expectancy of a front-line soldier in eastern Ukraine is four hours. Hard to blame these guys for trying to get out of Ukraine.

[@desther]

Well thats bullshit. Not even Storm Z troops life expectancy is that low.

[@stevenloewen8875]

@@desther That is what showed up when I googled it.

[@ethan51744]

Hahahahaha googled it!!!!!!! And there is Ukraine's biggest problem soft people who rely on the internet for there knowledge.

[@nicholasliboon1498]

Idiot even Stalingrad is 24 hours. If it was four hours there’d be over 10,000 a day

[@xpropriation8505]

don't believe everything you see on the internet. Also, source?@@stevenloewen8875

[@pieterviljoen1620]

Not everyone is so stupid to fight another man’s war. Had they settled on Minsk, Ukraine would have been intact. That is what you get when you blind side, connive and sneak up on you neighbour’s border.

[@francotrinh5692]

Those young men arrested are not sent to custody or prison for term, they are just sent to the front almost right away against their will. What a hell

[@theprogrammerrolandmc3039]

@@babatu6717 You would throw anyone into battle to save yourself by the sounds of things they are sending women to the front line in Ukraine now.

[@orsatfranic3997]

@@theprogrammerrolandmc3039 Don't lie ! Women are part of the AFU from the start and there are women combat medics on the frontline from the start of the war.

[@theprogrammerrolandmc3039]

@@orsatfranic3997 I agree but under martial law women now have to fight now

[@aoifemurphy1693]

​@@babatu6717Prove it's a lie. Otherwise you are lier.

[@leonardoorellano6652]

You are partially wrong. There are more and more women as infantry. Also they have started to "recruit" people with chronic diseases such as HIV, diabetes and even cancer. Before you ask me to "proof it" just put some honest work and research it yourself... it is on the public domain. @@orsatfranic3997

[@JA-pn4ji]

Zelensky: We're fighting for freedom Zelensky: It is high treason for any man to leave Ukraine

[@anzelmasmatutis2500]

@@JA-pn4ji Ukraine citizens have article 65 in Constitution - OBLIGATION to defend country. Rights and Obligations. Some people want to enjoy Rights but don't want to pay their Dues..

[@user-kr2ue4jg2e]

@@anzelmasmatutis2500 100%

[@magnem1043]

@@user-ll2je4kc4f Israel*

[@mikedon5205]

​@@user-ll2je4kc4flol nice dream Ivan stop drinking 😂

[@mikedon5205]

​@anzelmasmatutis2500 exactly and let's face it no country is going to have 100% agreement to risk their lives in war they'll let others do it

[@robinsattahip2376]

Some people are smart enough not to want to be sacrificed for a lost cause. The war is lost and it never needed to happen in the beginning.

[@ajc5930]

This.

[@garnetrose6162]

Forcing War on an individual is Immoral

[@oleiversen6389]

Protect your border from your own people. Wtf.

[@johnsmith4811]

Ukraine rails on anything Soviet related. Yet they reincarnated the Berlin Wall. And the West LOVES it this time around.

[@gdiwolverinemale4th]

That is what a claimed "democracy" does, bought and paid by the US marxist money

[@dontgetmad4849]

Remind me of a concentration camp. No wonder Russia intervenes

[@RIoNuTz]

@@dontgetmad4849 the situation is like this because of ruzzia wtf are u talking about ?

[@blacmagicwand]

@@RIoNuTz did you even watch the video? Ignorance 😭

[@CannaToker420]

You don't owe anyone your life. It’s your body, not their’s. Asking anyone to go and die or be captured and brutally tortured is pure evil. Why don't the politicians go out and fight on the front lines?

[@Mark-in8ju]

Starship Troopers (book) is right about voting!

[@mygtr2021]

Young men have been conscripted to fight for thousands of years. Not condoning it, just history.

[@itspeekaboo]

If everyone had the same mindset, then our past bloody history would not be continuing to this very day. What makes it more daunting, there is also a possibility even in the vastness of our own Galaxy. We could be alone.

[@DeadNoob451]

@@itspeekaboo If everybody had this mindset then there would not have been two world wars.

[@itspeekaboo]

@@DeadNoob451 Agreed, that is the conclusion from my opening comment. However, our past history to this very day has been a bloodbath. Imagine John Lennon lyrics, for example, seem so far from ever reaching a reality. “I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.” A. Einstein A nuclear deterrence is flawed, on the grounds they are available to use. Disregarding this scenario, what is factual we presently live in times of plenty but yet we continue in many ways, to inflict unnecessary suffering on our own species, and if in these times of plenty we are unable to move forward as a united race. What will the future bring should we reach more precarious times?

[@Lexomm1]

Bravo, BBC beginning to show the truth. 5:15 I salute Yevgeny for risking his life to be with his family, instead of burning US dollars in his rifle and get traumatised in a war he never asked for, for nothing. He is not betraying his country, his government betrayed it, by not retreating from Donbas in March 2022 and making a deal. I hope his wife is still single after so long a time, and wish all those who try to leave, and your families, only the best.

[@humbleonemoretime7025]

8 years in jail is outrageous, but life-saving sentence

[@voice-over4089]

No man should be forced to die on another 's behalf

[@POPE_FRANC1S]

It's for the freedom of the world

[@FufucaCacildis]

A world they won't see cause they'll be dead. Only son of politics will live. Not worthy fighting for.@@POPE_FRANC1S

[@glintongordon6811]

​@@POPE_FRANC1Swhat world??? They are fighting a proxy war for America, the most second most wicked nation in modern history

[@wolfswinkel8906]

@@POPE_FRANC1S dumbest take ever

[@isaacisang2715]

​@@POPE_FRANC1Sgo ahead and join the Ukrainian army then.

[@KKPR533]

Can't really blame those young lads....everybody wants to live

[@solodad7999]

Don't serve, don't fight your country may not survive

[@KKPR533]

​@@solodad7999the battle lines are more or less frozen...those young lads do not need to die for american MIC's profit

[@Srfs777]

You’re what we call a Coward in this country.

[@Dhuxul9]

Funny how strong and independent ladies are not sent to the war

[@KKPR533]

@@Dhuxul9 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@matro2]

1:44 "Without reliable protection of a border, a country cannot exist at all." More in Europe should know this.

[@RBurns80]

Except in reverse. "Our prison can't exist if we allow the inmates to leave."

[@mrtriffid]

Hey, that's EXACTLY what they said about the 'Iron Curtain,' RIGHT?!?!?!? 🤣

[@JoeHeine]

Funny how Americans, who don't have a border anymore, have to fund Ukraine's border.

[@nandofim]

@@RBurns80 🤣😆😂

[@youwayo]

Biden should know this :)

[@Ogole-oye]

They should have asked Boris to go fight since he wants them to continue

[@topfueler2]

It doesn't look like Ukraine is winning

[@MilanVVVVV]

It lost the moment they cut peace negotiations back in 2022.

[@chrisko6439]

That was never the goal.

[@talaverajr391]

Our veterans end up homeless in the USA, can you really blame younger generations for not wanting to fight for their corrupt government? I dont blame them.

[@banzi69]

Especially fighting for Zelenskyy

[@TSDamiano]

Politician sons: Adios Comdrade

[@sabanadjovic]

Exactly!!!

[@rphb5870]

don't worry, I can guarantee that the Ukrainian veterans wont end up homeless. In fact many of them are already home now, 5 feet under, the rest will follow soon

[@RobertWilliams-us4kw]

I say this respectively talaverajr, but how many American veterans from their Iraq/Afghanistan/Libyan/Syrian operational service are going to come back to the U.S. and claim Veterans Benifits and medical care as a consequence of their time fighting in Ukraine as "volunteers", but using their Iraq/Afghanistan/Libyan/Syrian service as the catalyst of their claims?

[@user-xh4dp6ij4r]

This clearly shows two important things, bitter defeat of the ongoing war and human rights violation. 😢😢😢😢😢😢 

[@JoshSealy-qx5mm]

Stop killing eachother. Talk to eachother

[@prodigiii712]

The main question is why is BBC against men leaving the war, saving their lives and reuniting with their families?

[@STICKYBOY214]

Because you have to stand up and be a man and protect everybody’s families..

[@prodigiii712]

@@STICKYBOY214 you don’t, you’ve to protect your own family. If you want to stand up, the AFU is accepting foreign volunteers, why don’t you join them?

[@NCFMEthiopia]

@@STICKYBOY214being a man has nothing to do with fighting, that’s your stupid perception, would you say that to women? Grow a brain.

[@parlyramyar]

@@STICKYBOY214 be a man? lol being a man means dying so feminists and manhaters get to live? foh

[@captainfury497]

The war was supposed to be over and peace talks were undergoing when UK PM Boris Johnson told Ukraine to cancel it

[@finishingsolutions2851]

My heart goes out to these young kids. old men from other countries are forcing them to fight for something they will never own.

[@ptrekboxbreaks5198]

Just about Every country would and does do the same if they faced a full scale invasion...hell even if US was full scale invaded they'd probably do it

[@occamraiser]

It is an old man in the Kremlin who has caused this, indeed. But defending one's country, family, homeland, freedom IS NOT being dragged into war by old men.

[@nicklausbrain]

@@occamraiserfreedom of what? Using slavery to protect freedom is a logical blunder

[@justinperry3791]

​@@nicklausbrainfreedom to live ur life as a citizen of ur nation I mean these peoples lives were fine until russia invaded in 2014 so go push some more russian narrative

[@finishingsolutions2851]

@@occamraiser There is not a country in the world that doesnt fear America, and for good reason. They have destroyed more countries than any other nation in history. They support an illegal coup right next door to Russia, They supported the bombing of ethnic Russians in Eastern Ukraine, they were ready to ethnically cleanse eastern Ukraine and Russia was not supposed to react? Anyway your late for your pro Israel rally, run along...

[@thewepajnc]

Where are the women complaining how difficult and unfair it is for them?

[@ICMFX]

Protesting in Kiev, and yelling how they are still ´oppressed, while their men lay dead in a trench.

[@jin6186]

@@ICMFX fake. They are in dubai riding a rich guy...

[@JoeHeine]

Narrating this ridiculous BBC f***ery

[@MargaritaKatrenko]

This madness should stop NOW. We demand Peace negotiations.

[@Madridista159]

They rejected months ago

[@duongthienbao8782]

​@@Madridista159 yeah, Zelensky did reject it as the US told him to continue to war with Russia

[@Mulgerehircum]

Also Zelensky made a law, that there wil lbe no peace negotiations.

[@nikog2282]

I know one thing, there is no country, no leader, no politician, no land on this planet that is worth my life. I would flee Ukraine myself.

[@koklop]

absolutely true, but many of those guys there simply fight for their families and homes...under the occupation or to protect what is yet not occupied, because they have their families, friends and homes there, not so easy to leave and take everyone you know and everything you have built with you.

[@andrewmckenley5355]

Coward

[@AlogangKangura-vo6qs]

Very Tru bro

[@toms4022]

Worst of all even if Russia win they will install a new government anyway and nothing will change for ukrainians. All this is for nothing

[@pocaujmniewdupepocaujmniew5128]

@@koklop But you should also know that not every Ukrainian wants to fight the Russians because millions of Ukrainians are pro-Russian! You also need to know this and the media won't tell you this!

[@Buckydhu]

Prisoners of their own country

[@eliotness4029]

Croatia is a united country. ukraine is not. ukraine is mixed of different parts. imagine Croatia and Serbia in one country? is it country? ukraine the same. not a country at all. I don’t understand why Ukrainians living in Lviv need to defend Crimea, where they have never been and never will

[@michalsawa881]

Ukraine is Eastern Europes Yogoslavia

[@michalsawa881]

​@@eliotness4029You really dont understand why you need to fight those KrasnaArmja hordes? All i can tell you is: Freedome is measured by crosses. Those who are not willing to fight and if it comes to 'Die' They dont deserve freedome

[@dontgetmad4849]

Nazism

[@DINOZYAVIER]

@@eliotness4029say to people from Ile-de-France and south of France for example. Or any other big european counry like Italy, Germany. Of course people in different regions are quite different but share culture, language, religion.

[@Nooneapparently]

lol, not everyone wants to die, artillery, drones, and a bullet from an enemy you don’t even see is a waste of life

[@FoodwaysDistribution]

Not everyone is happy to fight for na-zis

[@stevenchristy3175]

My dad had to call in and see if his birthday was picked for Vietnam. It wasn’t chosen and he screamed out with joy. He always says he never won the lottery but that one was worth plenty of millions.

[@gumby2241]

a lot of men went to canada to escape the draft, no one stopped them from doing this. No one should be forced to kill another, no matter the circumstances.

[@josevilas4927]

Plan B would have been to go to Canada.

[@lcfflc3887]

@@josevilas4927 that doesn't make you skip jail, if you get called and flee you can't come back, they'll be a warrant for your arrest

[@josevilas4927]

@@lcfflc3887 Many fled to Canada during the Nam War in the early 70`s and that is a fact.

[@lcfflc3887]

@@josevilas4927 I'm just saying what happens after you don't respond to the draft notice, if the government decides to give them a pass after the war under Congress approval or presidential pardon that's up to them to do that. Mohammed Ali fleet the country too but they Made it hell for him even outside.

[@RockedChad-ts7ch]

Another biggest jail for men.

[@shimadwan8251]

Save your life guy's . A lot of Ukraine women find Western Europe Men attractive. A lot of Ukraine women is leaving the country for better Western men.

[@stevenmartin8828]

​@@shimadwan8251thank you for sharing your Special level of STUPID with that BULLSHIT comment.

[@user-nb4ex5zk3w]

If I was Ukranian I would have gone long ago. I owe nothing to anyone. I'm in my fifth country so far. I live in the world not in a corrupt gang...although it's getting more evil by the day.

[@weximan1]

Being forced into war is never a good thing,how can a man fight if he doesn't want to go to war,it must be a terrible situation to be in

[@Roms785]

When people perceive unfairness in everything and don't trust the government, it's inevitable that such situations arise. Government officials keep their kids out of the army, and some individuals in the government engage in corruption even during these challenging times

[@user-li5cr6wv5b]

Many Israeli officials have their sons joined the army after 10/07. But not Ukrainians. Goes to show which government is the part of their people, and which is just herders driving animals to slaughterhouse.

[@billymadison8574]

Sorta the dynamic at all times. The aristocracy sends the poor to fight their wars...not ppl they care about

[@ttemmowwkk]

we ukrainians hate our goverment)

[@cliffitir]

Yeah and no. Some pretty senior Ukrainians put themselves on the line when they dont need to. like Budanov

[@_Tristen_]

Right, EVERYONE should fight, regardless of their birth or status. It is messed up if the Ukrainian government is keeping higher born men at home and sending the less fortunate. Then they’ve lost my sympathy if thats the case

[@dayth8382]

I'm from Ukraine, and i have nothing in this country, i just didn't have time to achieve something, i don't have my own family, my own property, but they want me to sacrifise my life for others, and for other people property. I think it is violation of human rights forcing people to fight. It means you decline their rights for life, right for freedom and health, and sacrifise them for other people that means government think some people life are less valuable then others. So if you are male in Urkaine, your life means nothing. Don't trust any media that telling you that we are fight for freedom, i see no freedom, our country is full of savages just same as Russia.

[@RovexHD]

Ukrainian cities are safer than elsewhere in even Western Europe. When I lived in Kiev, I felt safe walking anywhere, anytime. Corruption though is a big deal, also I think politicising the language situation didn’t help matters.

[@bsherman8236]

Same everywhere buddy

[@BAJOLADU]

You should get out bru. Or if send to the war, surrender first chance you get. Best of luck.👍

[@dayth8382]

@@BAJOLADU I prefer to not go at war at all, if it comes to it, i'll beter take my chances in court and be imprisoned like a dodger, than go to frontline. Go to war and surrender it is not an option, because russians treat POW really bad, they can even use you as human shield, or just kill, it is not propaganda, i now the exact cases when it happened. They do not comply with any conventions, while Ukraine is obliged to do this, otherwise it will lose the support of its partners. So really funny thing if you are russian that don't want to fight, and you surrender, you have more chance to stay alive than Ukrainian men that don't want to fight. So i'm gonna escape illegally through the border, or be the prisoner that refused to go to the war.

[@dayth8382]

​@@RovexHDIt was safe, but now. Now more chances they catch you on the street and send to war, than missile hit where you are. I mean, it still safe for foreigner, but not for citizens. For me now any city in Western Europe safer than here. I hope i'll make it out of here.

[@shototodoroki4945]

Im sure feminism in Ukraine and Russia is at an all time low nowadays.

[@dmitriyobidin6049]

When a citizen don't want to participate in a war they call it betrayal. When a government sends their people that don't want to be on a war and have zero war exp. - they call it "defending your motherland", not betrayal. Even though government and motherland/homeland are 2 totally different things. And yea, those points are valid for both sides of the conflict.

[@robertalan4717]

They are not fighting for Ukraine. They are fighting for America.

[@The88Cheat]

That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

[@cali4tune]

are you calling Lindsey Graham dumb? @@The88Cheat

[@gmailistrash4094]

@@cali4tune Anyone who says this is dumb yes.

[@Ivan.A.Trulyuski]

@@gmailistrash4094you having blinders on doesn’t make others dumb.

[@TC-cr2oy]

They're fighting for Europe. America is going to be fine either way.

[@serhiiartemenko1486]

People should not be locked up in the country if they do not want to be there!

[@POPE_FRANC1S]

The country needs them though. Its not fair that they should just sit at home because they can't be bothered to defend their country, whilst others go out and fight

[@randomguy7175]

@@POPE_FRANC1S nobody should be forced to fight wars. What loss has zelensky has in his family !? Why should others lose entire families so that Zelensky can make billions of dollars and US military industrial complex can earn hundred of billions.

[@magnem1043]

@@POPE_FRANC1S countries need births, should we force every women to give children aswell, force children and soldier like old times?

[@dkrawk8309]

What do you mean???? If the country is ran by nazi regime, ofcource they can't leave!

[@dkrawk8309]

​@@POPE_FRANC1Sit's not their country......Black Rock, Shell and Chevron will tell you that

[@MHS-ql7ee]

The actors the BBC get for this are AMAZING

[@chumleyk]

Dubai, London, NYC are dripping with Ukrainian women living their very very best lives. Maybe these guys are just trying to find out what their wives and girlfriends are actually up to

[@Carolinapetroska]

Lol

[@darrylmuse9948]

They aren’t living that good in NYC with the illegals getting everything and prices going thru the roof along with the crime Lol

[@tolloromassi99]

Where are the feminists now???

[@chrisko6439]

@@tolloromassi99 Look right. There are the feminists. They are always right. That's the definition of feminism.

[@AnthonyOMulligan-yv9cg]

Russian Women also

[@friendofgod001]

No man should be forced to fight in a war.

[@grant5941]

Sure, but all the men should be willing to fight when their freedom is getting taken away. It's cowardly no matter what. There's foreigners with no involvement that have volunteered to fight for them.

[@kacperzimowski4626]

Sure, no man should be forced to do so. That still makes you a coward, seeing others doing so for you.

[@kbones35]

The problem is, that if russia succeeds, every man will be drafted. They already did in the occupied territories. You either fight for your country now or become cannon fodder as soon as ru big boss tells you so.

[@sorin_ion8151]

​@@grant5941for a good pay check.

[@moha-tk5gz]

​@@grant5941​the only winners in wars are the suppliers and the leaders. No point killing working class children for "nationhood". Remember whenever there is no carrot on the stick, you run! Bcuz you have nothing to gain but have everything to lose.

[@Lexomm1]

If 'serving your country' is what this is, then why are there no oligarchs there, or paying for the poor, or sending their kids to fight Russia... Right..

[@hondujor]

NOT EVERYONE IS A STUPID

[@vitalysokalsky1504]

i am looking for women commentary about equal rights and being treated the same way… can’t find any here

[@CryptoRealAlpha-dp8jy]

Curious uh

[@haider5044]

All of a sudden no one is ringing any bells about this obvious and destructive gender imbalance ?

[@blackriders3509]

@vitaly Nooooooo! Not that type of equal rights!

[@LadiboiJoy]

Feminist women are hiding behind 50 shades of gray books..in pee soaked litter boxes and flea infested apartment flats amongst empty boxes wine.,.watching Megan markles biography....😅😅😅

[@jojojovial3506]

Why would I as a women go to fight a war when men are on the other side? If it were other women I would understand. I say, let men fight their wars plus it would be a death blow if women went, because who is going repopulate the land once war is over? But this is something you men are not ready to hear. The reality is women are disinterested in wars because we have nothing to do with it.

[@Calvin23]

The young men dodging the draft are the most intelligent men in Ukraine 🇺🇦 imagine being sent to die behind a tissue of lies to fight a proxy war on behalf of another country only for that country to abandon you after it gets a bit too expensive.

[@yaoreivashi]

Whether proxy or not, the fact still remain that Ukraine would lost half of it's territory (might as well lost the entire Ukraine as country) if they stop fighting, it's not like they got any other choices. I'm saying this as a person whom you may call a anti-USA.

[@yaoreivashi]

My point is we can only pass a jugement if Russia come up with something which could be negotiable for both the countries. On the contrary, while Russia is advancing for more and more territory, asking the Ukrainian to quit fighting is like telling a child who's bieng bullied to remain silent and accept the beating by a much older guy.

[@Writeous0ne]

@@yaoreivashi If Ukraine tomorrow makes a deal with Putin, to concede the 4 oblasts and not join NATO, Putin will bite the hand off(this end game would mean Ukraine lose 20% of their country which was already heavily Russified anyway and they become neutral which is better for the stability of the world). I think your opinion about what's at stake for Ukraine is very, very far from reality. Ukraine got suckered into this situation by the USA/western hegemons... they gave a false sense of security and Ukraine made decisions based on these false pretences since 2008... maybe even further back than that. The only agent that has been truthful with Ukraine is Russia, let that sink in...

[@BoolatGuzairov]

@@yaoreivashihave you seen any analysis from Western media that considered ANY chances for Ukraine to bring back that territory? Seems like no. So why continue this mess?..

[@thisnewnow]

@@yaoreivashi you clearly dont have a clue what you are talking about try and educate yourself

[@joeyexos6567]

In this one grievance, the suffering men have experienced when it comes to warfare, outweighs, ALL of the women's collective grievances, a thousand times over.

[@peterr7321]

I had seen a clip which showed a young Ukrainian man in uniform, who obviously had Downs Syndrome. He was with a mortar group, and the soldiers were trying to keep him away from the ammunition , so as not to injure himself or the others.

[@fjalls]

As my father said to the commander when he was forced to joined the army "If you force me to kill, you'll be the first to die" My father refused and had to go to prison 3 times before they gave up. This was in Sweden in the 1970

[@romko-romario]

Respect to your father: a man with brave heart. That's being the real hero - on the contrary to those who live other people's life, fight for interests that are not their and are easily subdued by the system. If everybody did so every time on both sides, there would be no wars at all.

[@user-ul5mx4ei3e]

Your father knows what means to be free

[@el_chico1313]

bro sweden is a democracy so chill

[@Normalguy1690]

Your fathers weak

[@fjalls]

@@user-ul5mx4ei3e indeed

[@jenfoster128]

If they don't want to fight then let them go. It says a lot about Ukraine that they aren't willing to. A country is only worth as much as its citizens think it is.

[@twood2032]

Totally agree, it's their choice. A country is nothing without their citizens and culture, throwing people onto the frontline known they won't last speak a lot about their government. Once the war is ended, Ukrainian people can return home and continue their life, however if they all die here, their culture is no more.

[@kani6855]

Well wasn’t our country jailing people who didn’t want to get drafted as well?

[@omarab837]

All countries (even yours) during times of war have this law especially during an invasion. These men are cowards.

[@romko-romario]

@@omarab837 you're very wrong: there's nothing bad with putting your life, health, family members, beloved people above defending the most corrupt and hypocritical country in Europe. So, if I am the only breadwinner for my family, what would happen to my dearest people if I die? They would be totally neglected by the state I defended, and they would die in poverty. I have nothing to defend - EXCEPT my dearest ones, from infringements upon my life. Ukraine as a state is as evil as Russia - with violation of human rights, corruption, hypocrisy and so on, and, as a Ukrainian, I see nothing to defend. There's no "side of light" in this war.

[@tomhenry897]

If enjoying the benefits be prepared to earn them No free lunch

[@Psychologist_Eugen_Fitzherbert]

Why is this only about men, not the women who are dodging?

[@Sean-ws9je]

The Ukraine Wants Volunteers Whilst It's Own Are Running Away What Do You Think Is Going To Happen To The Volunteers They Have A Life And Family Too❤

[@user-wp5fs4dr6l]

Men and women women are supposed to be equal and treated the same way

[@alexzzunderstudio]

Supposed to…

[@jackduane5555]

They love beating the equality drum when it suits them

[@foodistzen]

nothing is equal in nature

[@gerardjagroo]

​@@foodistzenThis guy gets it. Equality is a luxury that civilization allows.

[@scottwebb4722]

Some are more 'equal' than others.

[@REDPOWERable]

Ukraine officials: “Our losses~ 20,000.” Also Ukraine officials: “500,000 are to be mobilised soon to replace losses”. Who can blame these guys running away?

[@Mark-in8ju]

Starship Troopers (book) is right about voting!

[@kruger4444]

You do realize that that is not a 1:1 ratio? You need to rotate men, you need to have reserves and you also need to train the conscripts, which you cannot do all at once. Even if losses are higher, you need to mobilize large numbers, because not all of them will be suitable and you need to cover manpower expenses for 1-2 years in advance.

[@slutmagic383]

who can blame the guys running away? i guess other pussies...

[@kalinandonov2799]

​@@kruger4444 Spot on, man. Unfortunately, after reading some comments, a vast majority of people commenting in this section have absolutely no clue about how and why things work certain ways. Let alone values. Reading you was refreshing.

[@sharki9876]

stop coping and face reality@@kalinandonov2799

[@Pakils]

you are not fighting for your land you are fighting for your corrupt government.

[@teddycharm191]

In the start of the war i saw zelenski in a trench in kviv, saying he was fighting the Russians..... Where is he now?

[@TheBruce571]

*NOT EVERYONE IS DUMB ENOUGH TO JUMP INTO A MEAT GRINDER*

[@zenonka3748]

Ukrainians have no national identity because the country not even 90 years ago was 1/3 Poland and 2/3 Russian so how do you expect them to have a strong national identity... Second the country of ukraine was established by the na*zis after 2nd WW... Third they don't even know what they are russian or polish. They think they're ukrainian but it's just a name nothing else.. Take Poland as example where during 2nd WW even Old ladies and children were fighting both Na*zis and Commies... That's a Strong nation! unlike ukraine... So don't expect their man to fight for something which they have no clue about.

[@bengaltiger1289]

True but when you literally are kidnapped on a Street or the army breaks into homes, what can one do? Literally nothing

[@ian5384]

Cowards

[@Also.Sprach.Zarathustra]

Thank you Boris for reviving this conflict just exactly when it was about to end in March 22... 😢

[@ActualHumanPerson]

What about the women dodging the war?

[@stanstanton6154]

Forcing young men to go and die ,disgusting

[@brent4073]

And the ukranian women voted for socialism and disarmament before they fled too, also disgusting and why women should not be allowed to vote

[@omfug7148]

for their country, just like men have in every war, and there have always been cowards.

[@sails3538]

@@omfug7148 ....you mean smart men not willing to die for corrupt politicians and Billionaires....who's kids don't fight.

[@TaiganTundra]

@@omfug7148 It's not a war, it's a genocide, many Ukrainians know this. They're not fighting for their country, they're dying for a certain group I can't mention.

[@theia1653]

Where is all the Ukraine bravado now? It seems to have lost steam.

[@QiuQiuChannel-ni3xj]

They just realize only used as canon fodder😢

[@quinquiry]

Russian are fleeing too...!

[@bigchief4044]

@@quinquiry Your mom stayed to service the soldiers.

[@Simon-d]

@@quinquiry true, there are draft dodgers in Russia, but none of them is prosecuted in any way. isn't it ironic - free people in an 'autocracy', and not free in a 'democracy'?

[@romanpetrov6069]

It's how democracy looks like

[@gigibenea3529]

Hope Moldovans and Romanians to help this men for the name of life

[@__OOO___]

"Those who try to avoid mobilisation are about 1-5%. They are definitely not critical to the defence of Ukraine." if so, then open the borders.

[@ivanronin8209]

Why should I stay there and Die for Clown Zelensky and NATO Woke Feminists Fools and George Soros ? Zelensky was Install there by A Coup in 2014 ! Ukraine Broke the Minsk'' Agreement twice Which was fake by the way . They Lied to Putin . Why is My life as a Men less Valuable then The Women ? Why all The women left the Sinking Titanic again ?? Where are all The Feminists Hiding again ???? 100 000 Thousands Ukrainian Men and Boys are Dead ! Stop this Proxy War ! Its Pure Misandry at this point ! Stop Joe Biden !

[@QiuQiuChannel-ni3xj]

Zellensky:"then who will fight Russia for me?.... Me!? So no!!! 😗 "

[@GwynBleys]

Its 77-92%

[@IAMAliIbrahim]

maybe an overstatement,

[@HavingFunYet-zc8wb]

Seems , it is true ...Artillery does not care if " Pretty" .. Russia is now reporting young ladies [lots] part of average 300 per day Ukraine casualties ...

[@DisEnchantedPersons]

If a country has to go to these extremes to keep men in, they have already lost.

[@user-sz8km9dy5v]

Facts

[@markusParkus233]

Weak take

[@daniel8728]

@@markusParkus233 You go fight!

[@greenbrickbox3392]

this is just what conscription looks like, it has always been extremely unpopular even in WW2 where thousands dodged the draft

[@zvexevz]

Ah well that is excellent news for Ukraine then, as it means that Russia already lost the war in September 2022. Recall that 700,000 men fled Russia in the weeks following Putin's partial mobilization (as opposed to 40,000 men fleeing Ukraine's over two years of war and full mobilization). Those are the Kremlin's own figures btw. And if you're wondering, since then the Duma has passed numerous laws to more effectively mobilize soldiers, and cracked down on men attempting to avoid serving by leaving the country.

[@marvelenia6702]

Why should they die for something that is absolutely not their case? Everybody in their right mind knows exactly whose interests are being defended here. Just follow the money and you get your answer. I sincerely hope that many people will be able to excape from this madness. We, the normal people, we all just want peace.

[@paputzaadiy2820]

The Ukrainians should learn by themselves to understand the root cause of this war and the actions of their smart leader concerned about the people's lives and his power.

[@babylonian5]

8 years in prison is still better than the meat grinder

[@RicardoMartinez-oh9sq]

The Urainian army cannot trust them to force them into military service.

[@alekseibrouillard5013]

Ever heard of penal bataillons ?

[@LiamM_]

@@alekseibrouillard5013 Yeah thats a russian not a ukrainian thing tho

[@Free_Palestine_419]

@@LiamM_ Not a Ukrainian thing.... yet.....

[@LiamM_]

@@Free_Palestine_419 It won’t ever be because unlike both Russia and Palestine Ukrainians believe in human rights.

[@Silverhorn2]

Frankly, I would prefer eight years in prison than to participate in a conflict that I do not support.

[@nelyrions1838]

If your country was under attack and you, your family, all you ever known are at risk of merciless oppression and your country and history about to evaporate, i'm sure you would change your tune. Easy to sit on your ass in a country that is not facing total war.

[@TC-cr2oy]

And when your eight years are up you will be living in Russian ruled Ukraine.

[@Josegonzales-xn9fg]

@@TC-cr2oyit’s actually not worse than death or being left crippled or even living in a Zelenskyy dictatorship 😅

[@zayedbinimran957]

@@TC-cr2oy "living" exactly

[@ethan51744]

And that's what makes you a coward.

[@okayvision3413]

and what's wrong with not being a fighter? their freedom not to fight is after all their own will.

[@EDone1863]

It ain't me, it ain't me I ain't no senator's son, son It ain't me, it ain't me I ain't no furtunate one, no - creedence clearwater

[@user-nn7hw1sr6p]

Feminists left the chat long ago. the fight for equal rights and representation is a joke.

[@igorkravcev4933]

To give women rights was the biggest joke. The never deserved these rights, do not deserve them now and I highly doubt, they will ever deserve them. Women's and all these manority's rights are the biggest bomb under Western Civilization that will kill it.

[@Oleg72855]

Funnily no, they still talk about struggles, they don't care much about the fact that men don't have basic human rights. They talk about the fact that average salary of men is higher than average salary of women. Soldiers in the front lines are payed much more than on average in Ukraine. But feminists are not very interested in those positions.

[@Oleg72855]

Feminists take the fact that they won't be drafted to the war for granted.

[@user-tg3tj2nq6v]

I don't agree with forcing people to enlist in the army. These people did not want to enlist and the same happened during the Vietnam war, many, many people did not want to go and be killed and many who did and survived later regretted it.

[@imtiazakand3174]

They dont want to die for american interest.

[@BBCWorldService]

Thank you for sharing your perspective.

[@valerym1400]

@user-tg3tj2nq6v You don't know shit about wars.

[@jamieclifford5491]

No Viet Cong ever called me a n*****

[@DC-qn4wz]

@@imtiazakand3174 lol

[@lazkay2412]

Funny how this all happens with Ukraine "winning" this war.

[@nathanhouterman3440]

why would anyone want to fight in a country where land is over priced, wages are low, wealthy own everything. if you don't own any land nor have any assets its not your fight.

[@dmitryrokossovsky3259]

We need to send board guards to the front

[@lefouineurdespoubelles4012]

lol , are you right now on the front ?

[@dmitryrokossovsky3259]

I did not give oath to the country. They did, so we need to send them all to the front lines @@lefouineurdespoubelles4012

[@nikolavukicevic9799]

​@@lefouineurdespoubelles4012You will be in the front very soon

[@romko-romario]

That's the exact reason they are trying their best to catch as many civilians as possible - to fulfill the plan well and stay far away from the frontline. Because if they fail, they will be and sent to war, and somebody else will be assigned to catch civilians, who will do it more effectively.

[@skorpio4561]

Will Ukraine be the first in Europe to finally achieve female-male equality and help achieve this equality with military draft for women? Feminists will be finally victorious

[@thesenate1844]

I wonder how this would play out in Western Europe or America, since they are far more vocally into equality

[@Crackshotsteph]

Women volunteers are already fighting at the front. There are videos of dead and surrendering Ukrainian Female Soldiers.

[@notmenotme614]

Israel actually conscripts females as infantry soldiers.

[@yellow01umrella]

The Soviet Union already had female soldiers fighting the Germans

[@ericp1139]

They are giving good representation with the elderly and cripples too.

[@samadams1691]

Westerner forcing ukraine to practice freedom, human rights, in an astonishing way 😅

[@noushindowlatshahi6221]

BBC, sadly your leaders have no conscious of what they have done to this two nations.

[@SteelerzReignSupremeII]

They do. Just don't care.

[@elizabethacom3451]

Who would want to die for a guy like Zelensky!!!

[@AIAudiobooks411]

but a guy like Putin and his Oligarchs? get out of here.

[@FBAagent]

easy to talk behind a computer@@AIAudiobooks411

[@harukrentz435]

@@AIAudiobooks411 Zelensky also had his oligarchs but worse hes selling ukrainian blood and land to the west.

[@pagodebregaeforro2803]

​@@AIAudiobooks411or capitalism, to protect the super-riches money..

[@dandaman4985]

​​@@masakitonguba8919women are also being mobilized - even while being preagnant.