The Ultimate AliExpress Mini Gaming PC! This Is Awesome

[@PlayingGilly]

Genius design with the motherboard, putting the pcie slot on the side.

[@Casper042]

Probably not what they used here, but PicoBTX is roughly the same design but the x16 slot would be vertical and you'd need a mini riser. BTX in general has always had the IO slots on the opposite side of the IO shield compared to ATX.

[@ClayWheeler]

@@robertanthonybermudez5545 the only Motherboard I can find is JW H410i-P Mini ITX, which is surprisingly the exact same Motherboard as in this Video.

[@Szaone]

Amiga 500?^^

[@Erik56322]

@@ClayWheeler Not really i have found another mb but also with usb 3.0

[@milescarter7803]

@@ClayWheeler Microstep or Weibu TH310C-P actually, 6th to 9th gen CPU

[@andresvaldevit3692]

Wow! A real GTX 1650! GPUs are becoming the unicorns of the tech world

[@lachit-xe3fm]

फ

[@kodeypatterson8973]

Remember back on the day when there were just few graphics cards that could run full 1080p

[@rasmus80g]

"Back in the day" i still have a card saved that only did mpeg2 decoding. That was when the graphics card in a normal PC graphic card was not enough to decode a DVD movie from a DVD disc. To play from hard drive was just not an option because the harddrive's was not large enough to save a DVD movie.... Today any phone is more powerful :-)

[@westleyjohnstone4719]

Had one also, must of been late 90's.

[@thebluestig2654]

There were games that could run full speed at resolutions well beyond 1080p . . . . on a CRT monitor. CRT tubes didn't have the same rez limitations as LCD screens. I was running Quake 2 above 2000x_____ 4:3 rez at 120fps on an old Geforce card.

[@GAMERAX_Ae]

Like gtx 1050 gtx 1650 gtx 1070

[@kodeypatterson8973]

@@thebluestig2654 Wow, do you remember which graphics card you had?! That was an insane setup back then!

[@hansdampf7700]

When Eta is testing a new setup, hell breaks loose in GTA5....

[@IamConstant314]

Those kind of motherboards are usually called Pio motherboards. Used for one-for-all PC - Monitors with built-in PC.

[@VictorDeMeira]

It think you meant "All in One", also known as AiO.

[@IamConstant314]

@@VictorDeMeira yes you are right

[@briannickel5131]

Makes sense. I have two old (2nd gen Core) Gateway (made by Acer) all-in-one PCs and the motherboard has a similar layout.

[@MarcNorris]

Definitely a good use of the limited space. It's nice that they don't sell a knock-off video card with the machine. I wonder how good it would be in terms of productivity - it would be slick to mount it on the back of a monitor and free up some clutter on my desk.

[@Uvaldimo]

That's a thin mini-ITX motherboard, but I've never seen one with a side PCI-e slot before!

[@Barlos69]

Not only that but it has the PCI-e slot on the opposite side

[@RandomPlaceHolderName]

@@Barlos69 Seems like it's the IO that's been moved. At 2:16, a typical board would have it at 12 rather than 6. PCIe, CPU, RAM and chipset are in the same config.

[@RandomPlaceHolderName]

@@Barlos69 Always hard to explain positioning with words but I'll give it another shot. CPU, RAM, PCIe(GPU) and chipset form a square. CPU top left, ram top right, PCIe bottom left and chipset bottom right. Looks very similar to 99% of designs out there. All they did is move the IO to the opposite side.

[@Barlos69]

@@RandomPlaceHolderName Now I understand what ur saying it’s just the I/O is always in the same spot since that’s the reference point of how you mount it.

[@Airbag888]

Exactly.. If it had a few sata ports I'd put in a 10gbe sfp+ card in there and make it a great home server

[@22stunt45]

@ETA Prime awesome little mini. Hey man, can you please consider doing a step by step of the process each time you get a new pc, the software, game stores, games, etc and how you set it all up in preparation of doing your testing. Maybe im the only one interested in seeing this. If so i understand. Thanks

[@skitzthegamer]

I found your channel yesterday when looking up how to do cool shit with my Raspberry Pi 4. I love your videos bro, keep up the good educational & entertaining videos!

[@driftyswifty1012]

Ikr, I did that a few months ago but now I love his channel.

[@rabes1981]

ETA Prime is a gem, feel exactly the same way!

[@petruccilewis]

You have come to the right place bro!

[@Cyko..]

His videos make my wallet cry!

[@gorebish7950]

great channel man, especially on emulation

[@mattsmechanicalssi5833]

"Chine Compulsory Certification"! That fills me with confidence!

[@menoats]

I legit LOLed when you called it "Allied" Express, I always thought it was ALI like the boxer. Pretty cool for the price though.

[@ibrahimthegoat]

Its (ah-lee)express

[@ionamygdalon2263]

The fact that you can game so well while running under 200 watts is quite impressive! I also did not expect that the temps would be under 82 degrees Celsius with such a small factor.

[@duncan51]

Thank you for doing Aliexpress content! You'd be surprised at how many tech tubers ignore Aliexpress altogether

[@BAdventures]

Awesome mini PC. Good performance from such a compact system. OEM's need to lift their game. Wish there was an AMD version with their mobile RX 6000M GPU. Good review 👍

[@ToumalRakesh]

I got a similar mini PC off Ali with a Ryzen 4800H for about 700 bucks. It doesn't have a dedicated graphics card but it sure beats intel NUCs that cost a lot more. And just like your unit, the case was really well made, solid aluminium and very clean build.

[@CrispyTurtl3]

Just got mine with the I7 9400. This thing rules. Temps are not too hot at 73f in GTA V on high. What a damn computer dude!

[@OwtDaftUK]

I am very tempted to buy one of these my self. I bought a laptop but returned it because it was insanely noisey.

[@JezyYT]

That is the sexiest and best performing MiniPC you have found

[@excelle]

Need some emulation testing with Switch and PS3 :)

[@jjhack3r]

Yes.

[@Jimhawking24]

The video is up

[@mohammedelsheikh5342]

Was about to write this

[@BilisNegra]

Full-sized HDMI, DP, and DVI. What a lovely set of ports!

[@joshuataylor9799]

Wow, that's almost the price of the video card right now

[@LadBooboo]

2:45 those are the cutest little WiFi antennas I've ever seen

[@der-Troet]

thx, for testing this. i would like to see the emulation performance, ps2, ps3, dreamcast, switch etc. I hope they will bring more low profile gpus, rtx 2060 for example.

[@ETAPRIME]

Coming up tomorrow, working on the video right now. Testing everything

[@der-Troet]

@@ETAPRIME that´s i wanted to read!

[@cubeflinger]

Shame they don't sell without or with a choice of GPU.

[@sully.varnadoe1472]

As awesome as a lp 2060 would be it’s probably not gonna happen because for a card to be lp it has to have no power connections

[@moxianglife8143]

@@ETAPRIME cant wait!

[@MegaRyan123456]

I have one with a 16 core xeon and 64gb ram i use it for casual games and running some virual machines Stays cool as And runs 5 vms at a time And plays pubg/csgo at good frame rates for a little fun I have even had 2 vms running and played csgo at same time loves it

[@sbrazenor2]

I'm really tempted to get one of these and I seriously don't even need it for any reason. (It might replace my secondary desktop computer... It is more powerful than that. 🤔) Perhaps a media PC connected to the TV? An emulation rig? Console-killer? It's a versatile and compact system, don't get me wrong, but I just can't figure out what I would do with this - that I don't already have something for... and yet I still want it. I'm already kind of a computer hoarder. I'm trying to be less of one. This channel just increases my addiction's hold on me. 🤣 I think at the moment I have something like 35-40 computers, for anyone wondering. (That's in a household with a grand total of 1 person!) 🤣 Some of those are retro platforms, some are quirky little project computers and things that I experiment on. Some are things that I've bought to support projects, which I should make more use of. Within a 10ft radius, I'm counting... 15 machines. I think I need a 12-step program or something. 🤣

[@RClockinGoat]

I've been enjoying your channel for awhile, especially the emulation tests. Any chance that you could occasionally include Champions of Norrath (PS2) in some of the emulation tests? That's usually a stringent one that I want to base an emulation build on. Thanks for sharing all the cool stuff that you do.

[@R0GUEL0KI]

Man I forgot all about Champions of Norrath. I still don't understand why they spent the money to port EQ to PS2 TBH.

[@anand_bhasme]

Nice. That motherboard is impressive

[@RamonAndino]

First thanks for testing this; 2 questions. How long did you have to wait for delivery ? and Will it pass the Windows 11 sniff test? thanks again

[@gtcrespo]

This mini/ low profile 1650 builds are just so satisfying, man! Keep up the good work, ETA! Cheers

[@BingsBuddery]

For the money, and given the current market availability, that really isn't bad performance, and the temps are great! Decent option for desperate searchers!

[@chuck1011212]

The Xeon processor option looks interesting as well for this rig. 16 Cores 32 Threads and its the cheapest choice.

[@ryandunne7558]

i have this system its good lil box but it lacks single thread performance

[@jskjellman]

@ETA Prime can't wait for your emulation video

[@HowToRacist]

Not bad performance at all for a mini pc!

[@M4rio21]

I love the way this looks. I would sand off all the labeling on the ports for an ultra sleek look.

[@joseloco8186]

Looks great but another review you did with a mini pc with laptop 1650 100 bucks cheaper i think is the one i choose for my needs thank you for your review mr ETA

[@Jeakerek]

There is also 16 core 32 threads Xeon d1581 avanible for this pc. It's significantly cheaper than i5 and I'm super curious how it'd perform

[@Spolt_main]

I to would like to know, if anyone knows how it will perform let me know.

[@RobertSusin]

Xeon is for servers, its performance sucks for gaming, just google it

[@Spolt_main]

@@RobertSusin well yeah, but it's still a cpu that could game. In a system like this would you even have a cpu bottleneck is the question.

[@HallyFPV]

Every single hardware video is turning in to "This is the best machine".... Jeez what to buy!

[@lightfantastik]

They've already jacked the price up. $674 for the barebones i5. Your videos are great, but every single time I try to follow up on an item you feature, they're either sold out or the price gets inflated almost immediately after you publish. 😕

[@michaelmorales9697]

Yep - i would have pulled the trigger at 580 but as soon as he makes a video about them they raise the price $75-$200 always such a let down

[@acejon2162]

Try searching for it on aliexpess, I believe there are tons of sellers selling similar hardware and not all of them change their prices. Don't buy from the linked seller if he marks up the price. That's the beauty of aliexpress, almost all sellers are selling identical products so you can choose which to buy from.

[@HeyImGaminOverHere]

I just checked it and it shows $719.66 US for that same setup. :(

[@basic086]

I see they have a really cheap option with a Xeon D-1581 and a Quadro 620 2GB, this would be the cheapest, most compact and power efficient home server lab box :D

[@murdock94]

ASrock has two motherboards like this that I can find. Both Intel boards. B150M-PIO and Z170M-PIO2.

[@SyedKamran2016]

Thanks for witcher 3 testing

[@hassosigbjoernson5738]

This build is very, very interesting! Thank you for showing +ETA PRIME ! Especially a case like this would look amazing on a desk ... I wonder if there are cases with standard IO shields also available somewhere. *For gaming itself I would rather stick to a XBox Series S these days!* I'm not a console person but the price-performance ratio is simply unbeatable. For more than half the price of that Mini PC you get the same performance (1080p 60fps) + Raytracing (more often), one of this 512 nvMe SSD, a compact case plus amazing emulation and backward compatibility performance ... so these days that's hard to beat with a small PC. Greetings from Berlin

[@MandoMTL]

The lack of GPU is what normally breaks these for me. Nice find.

[@Seanbo88]

Actually really surprised by the performance on this 1650, not bad at all

[@IRWPD]

Am really liking the design of that case.

[@Thomas-of5ox]

Nice video as always ! I LOVE your KZbin channel ! ❤️ Please in your next video is it possible to compare it to your SVMIY AliExpress mini PC (from the point of view of emulation) ? Even a few words would be great, I hesitate which one to buy. Thank you and I can't wait to see more videos from you 😁👍🎉

[@JamesWhiting96]

Yes please do this!

[@ClayWheeler]

Add PCIe extender riser cable, and put a higher GPU like GTX 1660 ti using Secondary PSU like Dell DA 220 Watt Brick PSU.

[@GIFT_AG]

This Guy's content output rate is awesome

[@welshie6313]

Looks amazing! So, emulation tests next? :)

[@thedungeondelver]

NGL I thought we'd see some emulator performance benchmarks :) But regardless, another cool vid. At first I thought, oh, OK, that's your bog standard mini-ITX board but in a bespoke case, but I have never seen a layout like that, with a downward facing slot. Very cool!

[@Bob_Smith19]

Emulation tests are always in the second video.

[@josealdemar7555]

Forza is definitely your low-key flex.

[@yountune9799]

I thought about buying one of these but decided that it was cheaper buying last gen Ryzen gaming laptop like Zephyrus G14. I get 8 core, 16 thread plus faster graphics plus built in UPS and screen... Well I guess not anymore. Before the Pandemic open box G14 were like $1100 but now even used ones cost more.

[@kyleteal5888]

High End Emulation ideas for driving games. Everyone knows the Forza and Turismo series, but how about Mx Vs. ATV Reflex(dealers choice not PSP), Test Drive: Eve of Destruction(PS2), Big Muther Truckers series(game and console dealers choice) and this one is totally for me, PS2's IHRA Drag Racing 2 it's a little bit involved to set up for the first time(controller wise), but if done right is the best Drag racing simulator for the retro market.

[@PiMania]

Looks Neat BUT Wishing the PSU was internal even if it added a little to the size.

[@dimitriid]

Interesting: I've seen this side-by-side itx case style a lot from Silverstone and Fractal Design and if you want an HDPlex style PSU also from Not-from-concentrate but the gpu compartment is usually made to accomodate at least a standard height gpu or even slightly above that, making it half height does reduce the footprint significantly. It's a shame that half-height GPUs are not more popular since I could easily see something as powerful as a 3060 or 3060ti being sufficiently cooled by a half height form factor if done right.

[@IIStasisII]

Do they sell motherboards with side mounted pcie slots or would you have to use a pcie extender cable?

[@pyjama9556]

Hate to say this but I’m really starting to doubt ETA’s comments. Another instance where he has stated a price that he has paid is well below what their actually selling for on the link he has supplied!! Price of i5 model in barebones form is $652, not $580 as he claimed. Also no wifi antennas are supplied on the barebones model. Just be wary people.

[@markh8901]

You should suggest ETA not releasing the name or the link to the product. That price was what he got at that period of time nothing more. You may get better price or worse.

[@Vermilicious]

That looks pretty slick. A bit of a shame it doesn't come with a newer cpu.

[@Airbag888]

This has got to be one of the very few DC powered boards with an actual 16x pcie slot

[@ClayWheeler]

Yeah, I cannot find a better Motherboard than JW H410i-P Mini ITX which is used in this Video. I cannot find any Motherboard for 10th Gen Intel or Ryzen G series that has PCIe X16 Slot sideways.

[@rogerb6378]

6:10 - 6:19 How i drive to my job every morning. XD

[@adinchandra1797]

It reminds me Video from LTT. And it was one of my favorite video

[@a1g0rhythm]

The i7 version of this runs great. Except the computer crashes on OCCT power test, and will crash when running games at higher graphics settings, Crew 2 needs to run 1600x900 low setting to not crash. A good but not perfect little gaming box, the Nvidia experience program has graphics setting for many games.

[@febrianadji5758]

Simple undervolting could get that power con down to 140w

[@MrSlowestD16]

I can't believe how low the temps are staying on both the CPU & GPU. Damn near maxed floating at like 70. For a regular case that's pretty damn good, for a small form factor like this that's amazing. Still seems to underperform other 1650's though in 3D mark. Not sure why. Perhaps lower clock out of the box? Something different about that lower profile I reckon.

[@ericreichman1895]

So sick this would be perfect for my arcade cabinet/steam gaming pc for modern fighters. Tdp is amazing too pulls a third of what my i73700 and rx 480 pulls lol 😂 time to upgrade

[@FoxMedik]

thanks for the Street fighter 5 performance note!

[@SiggsGBR]

I didn't know they still made Thin-ITX boards, very cool the way it has the flat mounted ram though. I build reeaaaaly small SFF machines and vertical ram sticks are a real thorn in my side

[@yotoprules9361]

A nice system. Interested to see if they'll make a version with maybe an RTX 3050/3060 in the future. Maybe not quite this form factor but still something pretty small.

[@ClayWheeler]

You can actually use a Full Sized RTX 3060. You just need a PCIe X16 extension riser, and then powering up RTX 3060 using External PSU.

[@aemilianusmartinus5472]

These results are so weird. My GL65 9SC with a GTX 1650 and a i7-9750h outperforms this SFF PC in many games. Is it because wattage? CPU? Anyways, great video!

[@dexmiermaxime8583]

You have an i7. He ordered an i5.

[@pierregrobbelaar9116]

i am actually impressed with my 3y old ryzen vs the 9400f in geekbench and i didn't close some cpu tasks.Personally i love this small form factor system.If i had to get an intel it would be either 9400/10400f or and i7 8700k.They are pretty descend in price on the used market.The 11th gen are really overpriced even the 5900k are cheaper than the 11900k here by quite a lot.Another good thing is you got it with a gpu pre installed something that is really hard here.Even apu's are all over the place...

[@DailyDriven3148]

Hi, I was wondering if you a comparison video of this mini pc against the toptop mini gaming pc? They both have the gtx1650. Makes me wonder which one is better for a daily use with moderate gaming from time to time. Thank you!

[@MrDeadmanwalken1]

Eh im dissapointed with the ventilation they could have done a little better especially since the chassis is made from aluminum which should be strong enough for more holes other than that it seems nice

[@maow_.]

Is this pc powerful enough for youtube gaming (both playing and recording gameplay video at the same time) ?

[@sumi7065]

ive seen these on aliexpress and always wished someone like you would make a video on them, really cool design, i wonder how upgradable they actually are, i suppose youd be maxing out the power unit though..

[@Anguardia]

Something like the ASROCK B150M-PIO would work like this!

[@ClayWheeler]

But this one is using Sodimm RAM. Not Desktop RAM. I cannot find ASRock B150M-PIO with Sodimm. And that particular Motherboard is JW H410i-P which is exactly the same with the Video

[@_hanz73]

dayum I just finished watching your other pc build video,

[@BlobBlobkins]

NGL this looks good.

[@ThomasYoutubeKanal]

Order arrived today ... no manual including :( so lets try to get things done

[@skins4thewin]

Am kind of surprised that you didn't talk about the power solution. This thing doesn't even have any sort of PSU like you'd normally see. It has a power brick, but w most PC's you'd need more than just that to run something like this. You'd need something like a PICO power supply or something. Does this have something like that? Would really have loved to see it so I could learn about how this stuff works, but you didn't even touch on it...

[@magnitudedsry8473]

This build with a 1660 super would be so insane

[@TornadoBarrage]

Not that into PC's but these small versions are tempting and i have shadow PC

[@SethPinnock]

Could be a new TV box. When things get better the dGPU can be swapped ut

[@andrewdupuis1151]

very nice it looks like it don't use full-size SSD what i am use to. I love small computers however I worry about over heating i some troubles with laptop

[@alexri6854]

Hi what settings you used for gta v? PLEASE Answer, or make a video and how does it run GTA ONLINE? How many FPS?

[@dj_technoofficial]

Do you think a Ryzen 5 4600H and a GTX 1650 laptop (Lenovo Legion 5 with 120hz display) should be good for gaming and video editing?

[@marketingfreemusic7990]

Nice vídeo 👏👏

[@ItsFreakinJesus]

I want that case to be slightly bigger to fit a normal two slot, two fan GPU and a standard iTX motherboard. And I want someone to make an external PSU with 600w so I can run a 3070 off of it.

[@bretthollingsworth9866]

What SSD did you use? Wondering if a WD black sn850 would increase performance/fps, esp. for Cyber Punk... thoughts?

[@AbdullaSulaimani]

Where can I get a computer like this? It's really awesome!!

[@kim-zg3hv]

i like your video its complete detailed the specs,game play and etc.

[@mikem3431]

Hi, eta prime. Did you have a chance to complete the ryzen 5600g emulation video? It would really help me out. Thanks

[@qwertyguy76]

I’m between this and a Mac Mini. I’ve been wondering whether to buy this or try Mac OS. What’s the noise like in terms of the fans? For me I’d use it for gaming here and there and mostly coding/browsing, would this be good as a daily driver?

[@avamaeva7999]

Could you strip out the 2tb drive of the Super Console PC Box and put it in this for the ultimate emulation PC?

[@dalvarez6205]

overwatch should be a must in ETA Prime

[@polergun5736]

I need to buy this

[@PauloRAgostinho]

Hopefully they uprade the dGPU with a GDDR6 Version, like the Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1650 D6 OC Low Profile.

[@TT-it9gg]

Thanks for many informative video clips. Just wondering, the WebGL demo is not really testing the GPU limitation. Seems that it's more about single core limitation of the CPU. The usage is low when testing on 3090, 3070, 3060.... But one of the threads of CPU will be pushed to the limit. my 2 $

[@embracemasculinity6725]

ah yes,the independent graphics card mini computer.such a catchy name

[@rexcatston8412]

It's Chinese. Anything less that 'mega PC super wow graphics oxen' is a miracle

[@caiodaris7064]

Emulation testing with yuzu and the ps3 emulator please Mr ETA!

[@drifter4training]

wish the future pc handhelds have the hardware something like this.. that would be awesome.. and how this Mini Gaming PC using the CPU of different clockspeed affect the gameplay and framerate compared to another NUC with the mobile 1650 ?

[@poximano1160]

Nice video Can you try emulation on the Nvidia mx 450

[@kyles8524]

just watch a video with a 1050ti in emulation, they are basically the same performance