The Ultimate Form of Prayer

Rupert has said that the ultimate prayer and the highest form of meditation is to fall asleep whilst remaining awake. What does that mean?
Rupert explains that when you fall asleep it’s effortless. You don't do anything to fall asleep. On the contrary, you stop doing anything. Just do that, but remain awake. In the waking state, there are perceptions, sensations, thoughts and images. In the dream state, there are just thoughts and images. In deep sleep, there's just the awareness of being.
It's like like undressing - you take off all the layers of experience and all that's left is naked being. So, let go of thoughts, feelings, sensations, perceptions, images, activities, and relationships, but remain awake.
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Timestamps:
0:00 Falling Asleep During Meditation
1:31 The Ultimate Prayer
2:17 Letting Go Of Everything
4:05 Removing Layers Of Experience
4:22 States Of Mind
4:47 Waking State, Dream State & Deep Sleep
6:37 There Are No States Of Awareness
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[@jesuswept7408]

I admire this woman, a long time meditator with real questions, I'm sure she's heard every explanation from people who imply they've never had these issues.

[@uau_lena]

I am really sorry for the experience this woman has there. She is actually asking a very interesting and valid question and the man is not answering on a level from where she asked from. It seems that he is not connected to her and goes into his own world. She falls asleep because her nervous system is not yet able to be with the amount of energy of being fully aware. She disconnects because she gets overwhelmed. It is a natural reaction. If she would like to be able to stay aware and connect to the moment she needs to grow her capacity of being with energy. This you can do by learning nervous system regulation.

[@kimulm0619]

@lena maria i agree ,and wow you know your stuff.

[@karobiji]

thank you for 'getting' what happened to me there.

[@divinenonbinary]

So you’re saying it’s the same vibe as when people are connected and get afraid bc of how strong and unusual the flow is?

[@uau_lena]

Yes. The nervous system gets used to a certain amount of energy flow in the body. If we are tense and holding stuff inside, there is less flow of energy. When we make an experience that makes us feel save, seen and connected usually relaxation comes with it. Through the relaxation, more energy can flow but the nervous system needs time to feel save with the new sensations in the body.

[@enricouggeri9644]

My dears , I see you and the guest also did not catch what Rupert did there... You are givin an apparently biological explenation , actually Rupert went directly to the source of the issue, you are basically saying that that the sun should have turned around the earth to make the earth understand it Is round... You cannot have the experience of "dropping in" if you are really aware, that Is the point . Energy does not enter the equation you can be aware while dying and if you are before Is Better, actually you cannot die that way :)

[@I-Am-Aware]

Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj also addressed this in “I Am That.” The passage reads: “We do not wake up into a really waking state. In the waking state the world emerges due to ignorance and takes one into a waking-dream state. Both sleep and waking are misnomers. We are only dreaming. True waking and true sleeping only the gnani knows. We dream that we are awake, we dream that we are asleep.” I Am dreaming right now that the character Art Russell has just typed a comment. Sending loving compassion to you, Rupert, for all the good work that is occurring through your apparent form. 🙏

[@JasperAlkmaar]

“We dream that we are asleep, we dream that we are awake”, that is so good. Thanks for that

[@I-Am-Aware]

@@JasperAlkmaar I'm glad that you liked it! Thanks for taking the time to comment. 🙏🏻

[@irenemagill4890]

So was Rupert was saying in the class that some people were sleeping did he mean they were aware they were sleeping or just sleeping. I have also went to sleep while being aware but as far as I know I was not aware I was sleeping. I would just wake up and maybe fall back to sleep. Thanks for any truth you may be able to give.

[@I-Am-Aware]

@@irenemagill4890 Hello Irene. "To be alseep" to our true Self (or essential nature as Spirit) is still to believe that we are the "person." I know that sounds quite bizarrer; but it's easier to understand when we compare the dream state (usually at night) in which "persons" and events and circumstances are also experienced. We rarely give this any thought in the morning when we "believe" that we arise as "persons in the morning. But if we contemplate this even briefly, we realize that they had to be made of Consciousness. There were no "real" persons in the dream, even though it certainly seemed to be the case during the dream. Our conditioning is SO prevalent and strong that it seems impossible to believe that Infinite Living Mind (which dreamed the events in the night time dreams) could also be responsible for dreaming the events in the waking state, which the majority of beings believe are taking place by automous human begins. To put this in perspective, "this" right now is taking place due to the activity of Infinite Living Mind. This is alluded to in scripture: Acts: 17:28: For in Him we live and move and have our being. In a book entitled "The Law of Success," by Paramahansa Yogananda, he wrote: "The mind is the creator of everything." I hope you have found this information helpful. I honour the greatness that is YOU. 🙏🏻

[@danrt52]

Rupert is aways so gentle with his students.

[@lousiannegirlatheart]

He is amazing in his gentle pointing. I agree! He will help so many by his generosity

[@toddracicot706]

I actually do this at night while meditating in bed. I know that I am or body is or mind is asleep, yet my awareness is still there awake. I can actually listen to myself snore while observing this. It is so relaxing and comfortable and peaceful. Usually happens around 1 -3 AM after I use the restroom then go back to bed YET if I can’t sleep I meditate in bed. ✌️ ❤️ Oneness

[@andrewmc147]

Experiencing awareness takes less than a second and can be done with any activity ✌ after time you will see this too.

[@petegoestubular]

Sound like that night meditation took some practice

[@geneedgerton4482]

To the lady who keeps falling asleep, you are most likely trying to meditate (stay in awareness) with your eyes closed. Keep your eyes open while meditating, then become the observer of the world, feelings, thoughts and perceptions. Slowly you will merge with the world in awareness … but remain there with your eyes open. 😊

[@adamnaperty]

Yes.I don’t really meditate as a practice but just sit silently while being present.It’s actually much easier for me to withdraw the mind from the world with my eyes open than closed.

[@angeloiodice9304]

I have heard this expounded at the feet of the guru in the Himalayas, and it sounded mystical, only attainable by the fortunate few. We were exploring the ancient texts of the Upanishads, Vedas, Yoga Sutras. And, comes along Rupert in a few minutes with deep love, compassion and reverence for his students, he displays the meaning with such utter simplicity and allows you to realize you already have what you were seeking. Extraordinary human being is Rupert Spira. He should be “knighted” in his country for his brilliant contributions to human consciousness.

[@AlexHop1]

I think what Rupert Spira means is that during what we call "sleep," the body and mind can be asleep but the spiritual being is awake and aware. This is a Tibetan Buddhist practice called "Yogic Sleep" or "Yoga Nidra."

[@lousiannegirlatheart]

Precisely. That is how I get there.

[@Krishna13847]

I think he thinks that deep dreamless sleep or sushupti is yogic sleep which actually is not. That means he never experienced yogic sleep, it is said that one who experiences 48 minutes of yogic sleep achieves permanent yogic sleep or enlightenment

[@michaelseale7268]

I think it is is important to tell the subject that they must be rested and not fatigued before meditating.

[@divinenonbinary]

I fall asleep even when I meditate in the morning it rly don’t matter how rested you are if the sleep is obscuring the I’am awareness bc it’s not natural restful sleep it’s running away sleep

[@user-ex2df3om6k]

Good question of the confused lady and the deep, clear and humble answer example of Rupert, once more Rupert use an example so clear and simple that even a child might understand otherwise a complex knowledge. We are so blessed to have Rupert in this life time with us. Thanks Rupert

[@jesuswept7408]

That lady wasnt confused at all, she was honest, looking for honest answers

[@karobiji]

Thank you. You are correct, I am not confused...just trying to find answers to a situation that has happened to me through 40 years of meditaiting. @@jesuswept7408

[@divinenonbinary]

@@karobijiyeah I have that too. Now I’m feeling it’s the same pull that pulls me away from awareness. Gonna go meditate and examine it. Maybe also practicing on a daily noticing that pull and not following it. I think it might help. Thank you for the inspiration to receive an answer 🙏❤️

[@SuperstarSridhar]

The continuity of consciousness so clearly explained.

[@simonhitchenk9]

Absolutely, continuity, rather than an on and off switch, as I once thought of consciousness

[@infinityogauk]

As Patanjali tells in the Yoga Sutras, Meditation on the breath is the most powerful and passed down from Himalayas, when we speak about dropping in, when Meditating on the breath, it eventually disappears and self realisation in pure connection to consciousness happens, the body vanishes, and we are connected to consciousness. Meditating on the breath with a Sound bowl and voice of an enlightened Guru is most special. Prior to Meditation if one listens to a Dharana and moves into Meditation is even more special..

[@enricouggeri9644]

Rupert had One of his best painting here , Amazing how some people did not notice It @1:44 all the answer in an incredibly profound stillness

[@angels0auras]

My soul shot out of my body at the speed of light when i let go of everything

[@andrewmc147]

You can see she finally understood. She stopped thinking about it and just let herself feel it

[@lousiannegirlatheart]

She did! Lovely to see a light bulb go on. And what a great addition to this channel!

[@happymirabella9741]

Brilliant!

[@avinashjagdeo]

Happened to me twice during meditation in February of 2023 during meditation. Just dropped into a state of pure bliss and ecstacy. There was no world and senses, but I was awake. Was so shaken by experiences that followed that I stopped meditating for months. After learning what had happened I returned to meditation, but, now when I sense it about to happen I just become hyper alert and the mind snaps awake.

[@andrewmc147]

It's because you are trying to grab at an experience

[@andrewmc147]

Don't grab. Allow everything, good and bad.

[@avinashjagdeo]

@@andrewmc147 yes. I think so too. It starts of as a sort or recognizing that it's beginning to happen then my mind sort of stops and returns to normal. When it first happened I wasn't expecting anything. Also, there were some intense experiences regarding entities etc. after the first time. So although I've moved past it and understand it, it's like the body is expecting a jump scare or something. But I don't have any concious expectation or goals during meditation but there's a sort of overpowering curiosity and/or sudden alertness that happens when I sense reality falling away. But you're right, I have to let go of the mind's perceived experience of what happened. My mind is treating it like an experience probably because of me associating it to the waking experiences I had outside of meditation.

[@SuitedPup]

I can relate exactly. I’ve had a good number of instances of dropping into this state - but only for a moment or two - and then “snapping out of it”, out of I think fear. I’ve at times literally exclaimed “what was that!!?!?” right after it happening. Now, I find that it’s often in the back of my mind, wanting to recreate that “experience” - which doesn’t work. Best way for me to get there is to stop buying into any and every thought. 100%, drop interest in every thought, and become wholly disinterested in the thinking sense door. Then, the same for all senses and perceptions. Ignore everything. Still haven’t managed to fully inhabit that space less space, but even getting closer to it is immensely fulfilling.

[@bullpuppy7455]

@@SuitedPup Having experienced this multiple times myself, and having experimented with 'how to get back', one thing I've discovered that helps me is to stare at the back of my eyelids. In other words, focus directly on the blackness that would otherwise be images shining into my eyes. This seems to disconnect me from the stray thoughts that would otherwise capture my brains attention and keep me from returning to that state. By doing this I tend to drop into that blissful state a lot faster. Actively listening to the sounds, pops, creaks, crackles, air conditioner, the hum of the refrigerator, or anything else outside my physical body also tends to help as well, because it takes me away from listening to my internal thoughts. If you get a chance to try this out I would love to know if this works for you as well. Additionally, as I begin to notice myself approaching that state, I now seem to have this "Here it comes!" mentality that almost feels like riding a roller coaster. That point where you are nearing the top and are about to go over that first drop where you 'hold on tight!'. I do that with this state, anticipating its arrival, and trying to hold to it for as long as I can make it last. In reality I'm not doing anything in particular, other that expecting the experience and remaining focused on it, rather than letting it happen to me unexpectedly and then snapping out of it fearfully (which is sort of like that feeling when you are falling asleep, but suddenly awaken from a sense of falling).

[@adventurousandrew4442]

Sometimes When my alarm clock wakes me up at 4:45 a.m, i realize that I was actually fully conscious even though I was in deep sleep. Almost like I didn't sleep at all. It's a strange feeling, but that's exactly it, i am still fully conscious, even in deep sleep. I know the question was different, but this is related to the topic. The highest form of meditation is the same state as this.

[@kwaminaroberts514]

the point is to stay awake while falling asleep. this way you are conscious while sleeping. your inner being takes over. you can go conscious throu your dreams while watching yourself dreaming. your being doesnt think in thoughts. there are more tools available then in our physical only world. exploring this inner realm feels unimaginable boundless. .. and sensing that this being is you.. thats kinda the point of it.

[@deedhesi8014]

What was it like can you expound or was it beyond an experience?

[@kwaminaroberts514]

​@@deedhesi8014 i am learning how the inner being is working. its completely different then everything that iam able to put in words or event thinking of it. but the more i experience it the better my human can understand it. the states of the physical realm (waking, sleeping, being) is only a part of our being. our being itself is much much bigger. (well actually there is no size.. but its a lot more) if we can let go of thoughts (while being) in the dreaming state.. we can understand our being without translation, since we are our being. but being back in the waking state of my human.. i cannot translate my experience into words. thanks for asking.. i hope that explanation helps?

[@Axito2]

Thats the whole "teaching" ❤

[@lousiannegirlatheart]

This reminds me of when Yoga Nidra works. I don't always get there. But when I do I am peaceful for a sustained time.

[@Drstephenstokes]

40 years of practice and still having problems sincerely means that the person needs a new technique. She is mistaking meditation with relaxation, it is actually the opposite you must maintain hyper consciousness as you separate from the ego (body). Most nights I’m Apple Watch says I slept all night but yet I am awake most of the night, aware of nothing except my existence, that is located somewhere else.

[@kalliyoga]

You tapped into the infinite within, the divine Self. Let yourself relax deeply as it comes on, relax and know you r held . This live is our pure essential nature. The ego thinks it will be obliterated… why you have fear, only ego knows fear. 😀🌺❤️

[@greatermcmedia8175]

I know you will read this ... thank you for the great work 🙏🏻 Activity well done🙏🏻

[@rkp57]

We, as awareness, have to learn to be aware of ourselves all the time whether our minds are engaged in the world or go to sleep. In day to day life, we forget ourselves and identify with our minds for the sake of worldly experiences.

[@elisabethk7103]

❤🙏 thank you so much🙏❤

[@DilanR596]

Pure consciousness Meditation, 2 hours, eyes closed and very little thought. It took a little practice to get there 👍

[@Eid111]

❤❤

[@hazelr992]

Rupert blows my mind….😳🙏

[@mounikakankanala987]

Rupert sir i just love the way u explain, but this time question was not addressed properly or may be i didn't understand well, can anyone explain

[@chrisplayz253]

Wow

[@FinalCurse]

When i'm in deep sleep i'm dreaming. These dreams can tell me meaningful things

[@philmcdonald6088]

rest in present awareness be still close eyes listen to your breathing.

[@leightoncooke]

This sounds very much like Tibetan dream yoga.

[@unseekingseeker1359]

If we look at thoughts as objects external to us, that is, not ‘owned’ by us, clinging ends, stagnation ends. We then are, as awareness self-aware, sans thought, in silence, in stillness. First, to be as such in the waking state and then in the dream state (both are in duality), we shift into deep sleep (singularity). To be awake there in the bardo, so to speak, effortlessly, we slowly embody ‘the night of Brahman’ into our active moment to moment awareness, in the waking state.

[@Fastinsilence]

Try a sensory deprivation tank, no “external” objects, the mind is now the only source of object, ask yourself what remains when not claiming them as your own, there can never be an answer , you are that 🙏❤️

[@sajid279]

Meditation or transcending the ego is in reality creating an empty ego which just observes the other ego filled with experiences and memories... This void ego is completely in the present moment as it has no past memories and its connection with the bodily senses is just like when in a dream which does not bring actual motion but action just inside the mind inside the filled ego... Dream is the filled ego on autopilot with the void ego as observer... Its not any worship but hallucinating... A drug like experience...

[@ItachiUchiha-xk1fr]

❤❤❤❤❤

[@lugm1034]

The awakenihng day is already in the can. Stop suffering❤

[@lavanderialoca7385]

It's very difficult, to totally clear the head and remain in a meditation state. I sometimes use 5meo DMT as a form of clearing the head and reaching out for a spiritual path. Some people would say it's cheating ... but..hey ...why not.

[@ayeam5822]

The one that is going TOWARDS being can never BE be-ing.... This recognition only need a slight adjustment in viewing. we can't SEE the masterpiece if we are LOOKING at one blob of paint in the corner although; we do perceive a SCENT of it. Aum🙏

[@marlobardo4274]

and Turiya... turiya the fourth realm is amatra is immeasurable, is measureless it is the state in which the true state of experience shines forth and is transcended as turiyatita that which is beyond the fourth where the internal subjective and external objective realities are one and the self reality.

[@cath3638]

You fall asleep but stay awake. Absolutely - the time of being and aware.

[@Hereness]

Inquire within the Who or what is this “I”that keeps dropping in.

[@MrRevel1]

There are different levels of consciousness. Which are frequencies. Beta is the awake frequency, Alpha is right before you go to sleep, Delta is when you're sleeping and Theta is deep sleep. You can let your mind go to a certain frequency but then you're thoughts depends on the frequency.

[@jeweloftheisle498]

I can not be awake and not have a thought , even in meditation. If I have no thought then im asleep.

[@divinenonbinary]

How so

[@gaspar215]

“Sleep is the highest form of meditation.” - Dalai Lama

[@Tinyteacher1111]

Never heard that. I like it! Thanks!

[@gaspar215]

@@Tinyteacher1111 🙂

[@paris8711]

I think this lady might be talking about a high state of contemplation or samadhi, called in christian mysticism ecstasy. St Theresa of Avila speaks a lot about it. It is a dropping of the senses similar to being asleep. Almaas offers a more rational approach to the same phenomenon. He calls it "cessation". maybe this information is useful for this woman. It might also just be the case that she only falls asleep.

[@nikkifrye7599]

WOW❣️❣️❣️☮️😮☮️☮️🌹🙏🏿

[@shaner3723]

Answer he gave for some people is not reachable cause it takes more than human intellect to understand it, try to calm your mind, breathe , let go and you will understand everything after you repeat it 1000 times consecutively

[@dave3076]

Yeee haaw. I like it.

[@patriciamcloughlin6556]

I felt Rupert’s answer didn’t address the woman’s question, it seemed to me she was talking about literally falling asleep

[@Shane7492]

If we were truly unconscious during deep sleep, how could we be startled awake by some sort of experience? A lack of memory does not mean there was a lack of awareness.

[@simka321]

Is this the same thing as Yoga Nidra?

[@kwaminaroberts514]

the point is to stay awake while falling asleep. this way we are conscious while sleeping. our inner being then takes over. we can go conscious thru our dreams while watching ourselves dreaming. our being doesn’t have a language.. nor doesn’t it think in thoughts. exploring this inner realm while being aware of everything feels immensely free, boundless and profound personal. ❤ .. being is a lot more essential then knowing as it is in our physical only world. and sensing that this being is yourself.. 🙏 thats kinda the point of it.

[@VinnyCarwash-js8op]

Ahh okay, just repeat what the video said…you’re really clever

[@kwaminaroberts514]

@@VinnyCarwash-js8op oh wow.. i dont really know what to say to your assertion. but yes - thats certainly a way to see it.. and no - i didnt just repeat it and neither do i feel clever :)

[@heikeahlbory1738]

Listen intensely to the empty space.

[@herbertmorales7299]

Total acceptance of everything also brings you there

[@johnnosmith4417]

She knows how to meditate, she doesn’t know how to stop herself from falling asleep whilst meditating- I think the question wasn’t understood. That’s why she was smiling, as in saying, “but you’re not answering my question”. I too, have on several occasions calmed my mind enough but then fallen asleep! It’s quite frustrating.

[@ThePrimarycontrol]

I think he meant that falling asleep is no the problem here. It's loosing the awareness while sleeping. It happens to me too but I also had the experience of continuety. It just gets subtler sort of. So that's something to investigate for me, and for her I guess :)

[@mikejohn2307]

I agree with you. I think these people are dillusional. In deep sleep you are not conscious.

[@karobiji]

You hit the nail on the head! thanks for phrasing it that way.

[@joannesacomano6926]

The dreamer is the dream.

[@Coleman.1957]

This is another definition of Turiya Tita

[@spaceape3292]

She is so sweet and this is so funny, because its all true. One expects some fancy shmency tehnique or explination, but its all that simple 😅😅😅

[@gurinderkhosa6215]

Everyone needs deep sleep to re-charge. What this means is that you need to meditate by being conscious/mind awake while your body sleeps. This just takes practice as your mind would normally fall asleep when you go to physically sleep. Have 6 hours sleep then try 30mins of meditation daily.

[@divinenonbinary]

I think that’s exactly what she was trying to understand how to do but he won’t explain

[@velerina2017]

I tried this, now i have a weird relationship with sleep. Its purely an individual thing, and my relationship will change over time, but now im having trouble falling asleep Im writing this to know if someone had a similar or different experience from mine. What can i do to improve the situation of mine and how to better my situation

[@divinenonbinary]

I think it may be about beliefs as “I need sleep” try questioning them and relaxing your persistence. Dreams are there to clear your mind of chatter not to rest the body (it rests in relaxation) that’s why the more you meditate and the less resistance thoughts you have the less sleep you require

[@othernewsid2]

Stop thinking. ( thats Ramanas advice. Also the final summary in Brahma Geetha). How in tarnation is it to be done while struggling to pay the bills..is "my" challenge😊

[@lousiannegirlatheart]

I hear you. The best pointer I can give you is to start over and over staying in the moment. Try different forms of meditation. When you are paying the bills, just pay the bills. Watch the feelings come and go like clouds in the sky. If it was a redundant question please excuse my intrusion if I over shared. May you be happy May you be healthy May you be peaceful May you be free of suffering 🙏 May

[@othernewsid2]

​@@lousiannegirlatheart thanks. Ramana did say that , people who appear to achieve liberation...must have put in lots of efforts in their "prior" ( apparently it seems) 🤭 lifetimes.

[@user-pe4if1xy2c]

WHAT THE FUCK. This would mean that we could consciously choose where to identify ourselves with. He literally made me jump from being an emotion to being a thought to being an awareness. Maybe all the manifestation trend we see just means the act of identifying with the though and emotion we desire, and that is what awareness becomes aware of. What the fuck

[@rolandsilver7742]

Body asleep, mind awake. Focus your mind on putting your body to sleep. If you've had a big sleep the night before your mind will still be awake and conscious. You will hear your body snoring. You will be able to turn your hearing on and off, or zoom in and out of your perceptions. Its a subtle place. requires lots of rest and consistent practice.

[@divinenonbinary]

I feel like she started from a question on how to prevent drowsiness during meditation and we ended up discussing how to stay aware during sleep 😂

[@sofifl]

I have the exact issue this lady describes and i was hoping for an answer but this video didn't provide it....

[@cassandra_xx]

He answered tho , maybe you're overcomplicating it ? Why is it an issue for you ? What do you want ?

[@irenemagill4890]

I also did not get it. Other times Eckhart Tolle and Mooji and maybe Rupert has said if you "Fall asleep" while being aware you have gone below consciousness. "Don't fall asleep". Here it sounds that Rupert is saying you are not asleep but aware. ???

[@sofifl]

@@cassandra_xx what did u get from his answer? Do you go thru the same thing?

[@cassandra_xx]

@@sofifl Yess, it's just watching your body fall asleep, and you let go of the story of this character and everything else , just be aware of being. :) Letting go of the labels shows you how there is actually nothing there that is not you. You can be aware while your body is alseep, you just keep observing what's happening and stay aware of just being :) When you see this, you don't have an issue anymore The problem is that you can't stay focus ? If that's the case well as I said it's just observing and reminding yourself that you are just witnessing, you are not the one falling asleep. If you still can't well it doesn't matter really, you don't need this

[@sofifl]

@irenemagill4890 perhaps. For me I can even have little dreams in this meditative state. It's kinda like passing out and sometimes my head will nod too. But I don't know how to meditate other than this because this happens literally every time.

[@user-lq2no2nk6b]

Our Father, …..

[@gardeniabee]

However… How does one keep from going unconscious when in bed? How does one temain conscious continually 24 hrs a day?

[@IntuitivePickleball-cg1sf]

you're completely conscious at all times 24/7. I like to think of the brain as a faucet that allows for consciousness to flow through it at different amounts at different times of day

[@SuperstarSridhar]

@@IntuitivePickleball-cg1sf Ah, beautifully put. Thanks. Friend, can you tell me how I shift my identity from body/mind to consciousness?

[@IntuitivePickleball-cg1sf]

@@SuperstarSridharno :) the answer is contained within the question. You have all the answers you need if you only ask yourself first

[@SuperstarSridhar]

@@IntuitivePickleball-cg1sf I have asked myself the question before and struggled with it. I guess I will try again… Couldn’t you give me a clue on the direction to take? Thanks.

[@zoe233]

@@SuperstarSridharyou asked “how can I SWITCH MY IDENTITY from body mind TO consciousness” Do you understand who you take yourself to be? Who is going to switch? You are already what you’re looking for. I recommend watching some Terrence Stephens videos. He has very clear pointers to help you see what you are not and that will help you to understand the flaw in your question. Good luck sweetheart. ❤

[@Jamesgarethmorgan]

The Q'nr says 'when I get too close to my being". Ha!!!!!!!!! As if you can ever separate from your being(ness)!!! Seekers are SOOOOOOOO funny!!!!!!

[@user-bu9nb8wr6e]

Stop thinking.

[@Per_se]

It is dissociating..

[@ulrikewermann1268]

Yes, that is, what the lady is experiencing - dissociation. Rupert is speaking of something else. Actually being aware during deep sleep is the opposite of dissociating. So my opinion is, that Rupert misunderstood the lady and therefore she does not get him.

[@alfreddifeo9642]

💣🙏😶

[@pilargarcia6724]

🙏💛🧡❤️🩷💜🤎💚🩵💙

[@Andy-zu3tv]

Why do non duelists have to sound so mysterious, talking in riddles or their pointers. He's talking about samadhi by the sounds. Focus on the breath still the mind and eventually with practice this state will be experienced.

[@petegoestubular]

Consciousness is ever-present. An error in thinking, I believe, is when we assume that because we do not remember times of unconsciousness (deep sleep, anaesthesia) we assume consciousness/awareness was not there. I believe this is a false assumption, and in truth we have nearly forgotten those experiences, as we do do many others.

[@williamwightman8409]

I can empathize with the questioner. It may be helpful to do this practice in a comfortable chair and not a bed. I did this practice on a long late night flight once and opened my eyes to find a young teenager asleep on my shoulder much to my surprise and much to hers and her parents later as we left the plane. Awkward.

[@divinenonbinary]

I fall asleep even when I sit up on the floor it rly don’t matter the level of comfort 🥲 unless there’s pain ofc but then awareness of pain prevents the meditative experience

[@0xAbdul]

Rupert clearly did not understand her question, it's like she's asking about apples and Rupert's saying look at banana it is a delicious fruit

[@austinchoi9802]

I think he clearly did understand her. Nissagarta Maharaja said in order to become anything first you have to be. Rupert is 👉 pointing to her beingness which is prior to her thinking mind and experiences. We are prior to our acquired and codifioned earthly identities. In Zen Buddhism, the mind without the mind is the highest beingness. This is why children understand beingness better than adults.

[@-Boundless-]

The mind has it backwards. “Sleep” is the absence of mind - that is, thought and perception - not the absence of consciousness. From the perspective of the mind, which is the flow of thinking and perceiving, “sleep” is believed to be unconsciousness because the mind equates itself with consciousness, with wakefulness, when really it is the mind itself which is a kind of sleep or dreaming. Therefore, when the mind has been absent, arises again, and through memory recognises a break in the continuity of thought and perception it thinks that consciousness disappeared. It was the other way around. The mind disappeared and it’s source, consciousness, remained present. From the perspective of consciousness itself, what the mind calls “deep sleep” is to be FULLY awake without dreaming, for the dreaming and waking states - thought and perception - are a kind of dream activity appearing within the wakefulness which pervades and substantiates them. Consciousness never falls asleep, it is always wide awake. Ultimately, what the mind calls waking, dreaming and sleeping are, in fact, arbitrary labels for pure consciousness. No matter what does or does not appear, there is ONLY consciousness itself.

[@allonszenfantsjones]

excellent

[@divinenonbinary]

If just falling asleep made people aware of their self none of the teachings would exist 🤷‍♂️

[@-Boundless-]

@@divinenonbinary Hiya Divine, happy to clarify. I am not saying that falling asleep makes people aware of themselves. I am saying that sleep is the absence of mind and senses (thinking and perceiving), but not the absence of awareness (being). Awareness is not the property of a person, nor does it need to be made aware of itself - awareness is innately self-aware simply by being awareness itself.

[@robertlumsden5458]

Turiya? Turiyatiti? The traditional Hindu teaching od sat-chit-ananda? Of waking, dreaming, and deep dreamless sleep all mainfestations of lesser states than that of atman or Brahmin consciousness?

[@user-mx9ue5ci4i]

She been exact,he didn't get it

[@StarCitizenSpeakeasy]

he doesn't get what she is saying

[@divinityeaster6610]

He’s making it sound too complicated

[@sanekabc]

Beard suits you.

[@luizfbw]

yep

[@synchronicity67]

If it wer that easy we al wld be buddhas 🤩 so lady don't stress 😝

[@Chris-fn9fh]

First

[@Leopar525]

He didnt make sure she understood. He doesnt care if he explains well enough

[@plumeria66]

I agree.

[@phantomhawk01]

She's a big girl she can rewatch and think over the lesson and in time it will sink in

[@tedgrant2]

As we all know, humans have invented many gods. So it's surprising that one god is actually real ! Of course we know that is the god of Israel.

[@Iinfiniteknowing]

I is real

[@VinnyCarwash-js8op]

🤣 The god of baby killing.

[@uwvadertje]

​@@VinnyCarwash-js8opur referring to either the flood or the command to execute wicked people without their children avenging

[@uwvadertje]

​​@@VinnyCarwash-js8opSatan's the one who encourages abortion not God

[@TheAmbamatamantrasvideos]

You limit God. And thats impossible. Its your mind that gives name to the One with All names and all Forms. God is not of Israël God is of Heaven. Its people who make war about 'their' God, 'mine, not yours'...pangpang kill💀

[@MrADTNZ]

What happens when you take ever thing off... I feel lonely.. Or my ego does