The ULTIMATE GA/TW Counters Guide! | Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes

[@bubnasty9097]

Did anyone else quickly go to tap ‘close’ when the 10% battery thing came up?😂

[@inarencommander4663]

Jango lead hunters are really good against an EP team. As you said the burning prevents turn meter gain. Also, a cool trick you can do against Nest is put Jango with Thrawn on a team you're using (to beat Nest). Fracture her, yes I said fracture Nest, then use Jango's flamethrower whenever you can. Eventually you'll lower her max health so much that any attack will kill her.

[@Kuduce]

zPalp is also a very solid Counter against NS

[@ELVIS1975T]

Yes. I don't have Traya but I can use Thrawn to fracture Zombie.

[@RecklessdvoTTV]

Execute is my new favorite against NS

[@rendar4713]

Nice list! A couple you may want to consider adding: Ewoks can counter FO, EP can counter Padme

[@Racinek]

Ewoks are great against first order!

[@tdrb42]

This might be the best video you’ve ever done. Really nice job.

[@CubsFanHan]

Thank you!

[@jaymkay-swgoh]

Dont use cls for Padme. Her zeta gives 40% Protection for every counter. Pretty hard to get through

[@xerrath8658]

Also in case people didn’t know in GA when using a DN lead you are always granted the points of full protection ;)

[@janthore]

Who uses DN lead though?

[@xerrath8658]

He is quite useful in a 3v3 as well as taking on full squads I use him in each TW I usually have enough counters to use this team this way I usually take only the trium and maybe Sith trooper dependinf

[@ELVIS1975T]

I always use it because I don't have Traya and because I use Palp with empire. It's great against low damage, grinder, time out teams like Phoenix or Ewoks and FO.

[@chrisAclaes]

This subject is always relevant and changing. Thanks for the vid!

[@aldrey4739]

Great advice and cool counter guide for TW and GA. Its interesting some teams can be used for multiple counters while others are specific to one team. Thank You for the guide, video, and content!

[@KL-lt8rc]

JTR teams counter Bastila lead pretty well. The unresistable exposes break down that extra protection really quickly.

[@Castaway_]

Much needed video. Help me in my GA

[@TheVodec]

Thanks for the counter guide. Looks like the power creep meta is real for counters and tiers. lol For some reason hearing the ewoks chirping during the end credits always makes me smile.

[@colinstubblefield4670]

I have a pretty good trooper team and have used it against BH with a faster stark pretty reliably.

[@matthahnke7032]

NS Asajj lead is a strong counter to NS Talzin lead.

[@xerrath8658]

Don’t forget that Phoenix do very well vs NS

[@lego856]

Phoenix is terrible against NS

[@ClashDoE]

Phoenix also counter Kru, Grevious, and OR very well.

[@mclaaronf1]

I love using my under-geared Ewoks against ZKRU teams. It is something most people don't think of but it works really well. I have taken out FO teams with 30k more GP than my Ewoks.

[@jordangroff6491]

Don’t know why this isn’t mentioned more, but if you can split your Jedi then Bastilla is an amazing counter to Palp... I beat 105k palp teams with my 85-90k Bastilla lead team

[@MichaelSiegel14]

Another counter to Phoenix: Ewoks. I always keep Ewoks for offense so they don't get solo'd by Nest. Their turn-meter train just completely wrecks Phoenix, with Logray removing their mass counter effect. Found it to be deadly.

[@ryanfiller6277]

I've actually had a ton of success with First Order teams against NS. Somewhat unrelated but in 3v3, the most fun I've ever had is with Phasma lead, FOST, and FOTP (zeta's required on FOST and Phasma). I've seen seven, eight, nine straight assists it's a ton of fun.

[@sdubs2009]

Ewoks counter KRU - save JTR

[@marqz900]

Yes, my ewoks are G10-11 with zetas on wicket and chirpa and i counter most FO teams with them! I always saves JTR for bossk or quira teams.

[@esr3763]

Wait for a kru with 60k health 👌 you wont take him down

[@mirjana72mb]

First Order aren't just a potent counter against Bounty hunters, they are also one of the easiest. FO has the capability to come out with a full banner count against any BH lead thanks to the KRU lead's effect. That said, FO can also get potently countered by the very existence of Sion. Don't matter where you put him, give him a lead that works with him and he shuts down FO completely because they can't kill him fast enough to stop his Held by Hatred. As for Palpatine, Bastilla lead is a very potent counter against him. Her Bonus Tenacity from the protection up destroys them entirely. As for Nightsisters, FO can also counter them really well. Same principle as with the bounty hunters, they are extremely survivable thanks to the KRU lead, so much so that sometimes Plague ends up healing itself away because the damage it deals is equivalent to the healing received, being 5% Max Health so you're quite literally neutralizing Plague entirely by nullifying it with equal healing. And FOX's stacking is more potent than Asajj's because by the time someone does for her to get her rampage FOX will already have increased his health, and thus his damage several times over. I have never lost a single NS fight with my Fo as far as I can remember and my FO are pretty garbage modded, save for my KRU and FOO. Last but not least, I have been finding some moderate success in beating CLS teams with my FO teams. It's just a bit RnG dependant. If my FOO gets stunned by Han's shot at the beginning of the battle, it's a loss. Otherwise, I just have to kill R2 before he uses smoke screen. if R2 dies before Smoke Screen is used, CLS can get defeated by FO. I might actually submit a clip to that once I get to making one.

[@dennis123456789denni]

CubsFanHan with the comeback on swgoh . That's a pog here!

[@KeyDash753]

VS. Padme - zPalp lead, Vader, Thrawn, Badstila, TFP/Tarkin, typically wins without the Padme squad getting a turn. I don't have DRevan so I can spare Badstila, but I imagine TFP+Tarkin in the last two spots works. VS. Bastila - I like to use Qira lead, Nest, HYoda. Qira usually dies so it doesn't yield full banners, but it's a cheap counter which frees up better teams to use elsewhere.

[@codym3840]

Cls with zeta lead is a counter to zBast teams (admittedly an overkill one), since all the resisted debuffs give tons of bonus tm to your rebels. Works well if they have a scary zBast and you want to save your Traya and jtr. Nightsisters v JKR is a semi-reliable counter. I finally decided to pull the trigger on going full g12 on my sisters after they beat a decently fast jkr team in ga and got the win for me. Spirit is underrated. I used Ewoks to beat a preloaded zCarth team after my scoundrels with Nest got walked over by them. My Ewoks are pretty mediocre too (~80 ish speed from mods and all g10/11) but once they get the tm train moving they can counter a lot of stuff.

[@ericorenato88]

Can you do the same for ships ? Thank you Cubs

[@ericorenato88]

@@Tony_Xie great video man, now go fuck yourself

[@suburbjedi3584]

For Nightsisters, if you have a decent Padme Galactic Republic team, they are pretty easy to deal with.

[@ryanhanlon9238]

Very important video for GA championships goi ng forward!

[@Blake_Aphra]

I think Palpatine works really well against Padme, just because they don’t attack out of turn and will apply tons of debuffs!

[@ELVIS1975T]

1:03 CubsFanHan: (after publishing the video, sees "TEIR" 4) WHAT HAVE I DONE?! 3:00 Me: (sees TEIR 3) WTF???

[@calebkenney5445]

Super helpful video Cubs, keep up the great content!

[@shhfiftyfive]

glaring problem here. when only one counter on your recommend list... and that being RJT... pretty sure you're screwing yourself if you rely this much on RJT to counter everything... she can only be used once.. so you need more options than given here. as example: FO can be countered by many more teams... cls, wiggs, veers, rex/wampa, ewoks if done correctly...

[@xRisK_Flash]

What I would like to add: Darth Revan + Malak counter: CLS + Thrawn (has to be the fastest) Padme without C3PO counter: The simple Empire team with TFP and Tarkin JKRevan counter: Traya with Thrawn Nightsisters counter: Bastila if there is no Acolyte Carth counter: also Bastila KRU without zBariss: Ewoks

[@clintonpolkjr938]

Great vid cubs!

[@caleblucas540]

Regarding countering the Padme team, I think Ahnald showed that some sort of Palp team was pretty good at it. Nute & Dooku could also be alright, cause Dooku can go under their protection.

[@christie_exist]

I'm so sending my guild members here!

[@bubnasty9097]

Such a great vid btw Cubs!

[@MormegilSC]

Another viable counter to Jedi Knight Revan would be a Traya team. It does need to be modded correctly though.

[@ronmills3506]

Good Video as always. However, there are 8 potential squads in GA and you suggest suing Traya, CLS, RJT for multiple teams. Unfortunately we can only use them once. Could you make a video showing the 8 most likely defensive teams in GA and then counters to them using each team only once? It would be beneficial in building my squads.

[@donofrhyme8127]

Usually use jtr against bossk. Shuts down the taunt. Gotta be careful to not let boba kill a toon, looking for banners

[@KL-lt8rc]

Carth is hard countered by Bastila lead. And I would imagine Jango too, with the potency penalties he puts on enemy teams, and boba's ability to go around taunt. Basically any team that can stop their dots should win. Edit: Forgot to add Thrawn lead.

[@jelfingero7381]

My Nightsisters win every battle vs CLS. you can use them too

[@Livengood]

Came to say this as well.

[@98765432123456781000]

Not sure if this is meaningful or not, but I have found good success beating Nightsister teams using Palpatine lead and Darth Vader, Thrawn, Fallen Bastila, and Asajj. Not only have I beaten equal gp NS teams with this line up, but even significantly higher teams as well. Not sure if it's a fluke or what, but it has worked multiple times for me. Thanks for the video!

[@thelonelydirector]

I think a Nute/Dooku/Sep counter can work pretty well against Padme. But, obviously, mods and gear will create differences.

[@ioannis2226]

Thanks for making this vid!!!

[@revannitup4550]

Before I got Raven I was taking out any and all palp teams in arena with my zzjango(6*) lead team with nest(6*) his flame blocks turn meter gain.

[@Artem-kr6pb]

Good video as always , Han! In addition , grievous easily counters Darth Revan without Malak

[@DevNulZor]

The effectiveness of the anti-Malak team of JKR team with Thrawn has nothing to do with the speed on Thrawn. You need your JKR to be at least +2 speed faster than their Darth Revan (after Jedi speed bonus) and GMY must be slower than your JKR and faster than their Darth Revan. JKR opens with Direct Focus on Darth Revan and then GMY spreads tenacity up. At that point it doesn't matter what happens because their Darth Revan can't fear due to increased cooldowns, and DSBastilla can't do anything because of tenacity up.

[@tdstdstdss]

My GG team usually has 2-4 fights because people just underestimate him, and if it only takes 1 fight then they’ve burned a meta team on him and don’t have one for GR.

[@ericorenato88]

this is the best and worst video about SWGOH! Best because its a video everyone needs to see Worst because i knew most of these as i found out by trial and error which would give me an edge against noob whales now its all even stevens

[@MoBot249]

A good Talzin NS team can beat a defensive CLS team 95% of the time. It would be 100% but every once in awhile you get bad RNG and can't revive.

[@ELVIS1975T]

Exactly. NS are counters to many problems.

[@DylanWagner]

Empire with TIE Fighter Pilot counters Padmé

[@xRisK_Flash]

Only Padme without C3PO

[@usmanya5110]

Now, CLS and Jedi Knight Revan has a hard time against Grievous.

[@mr.billbradley4510]

This would be helpful if i had 6 JTR squads being that they are the go to counter for most of the galaxy.

[@fergusdenoon1255]

Good Nightsister squad will also beat JKR. (you'd need to have had practice)

[@jordangroff6491]

I beat 100-105k JKR teams with my 95k NS team all the time! (MT lead is way better than Asajj lead against JKR)

[@gonzalodiaz9745]

@@jordangroff6491 its possible ... but its kind of tricky and lucky shot

[@happymeh123]

My go to counter to Bosk team is murder bears. I take my 83k ewoks against BH and steamroll them all the way up to at least 108k.

[@stephanszostak1190]

Kudos for just coming up with a video,, this game is unplayable at the moment and the Devs seem to be fine since they barely say anything

[@skywalkervader2117]

Thanks cubs for info. Like you always over overkill every team l see . Always great contact . Thanks again. 👍

[@sergiovictoria3177]

Hello Cub, you forgot the counter for CUP on defense. Can I assume there is no counter and accept the loss on either TB or GA?

[@davul01]

Bossk lead is way better than Jango team and here is why. With Bossk you are repeatedly gaining health and protection so that you can clear plague and in the end finish with perfect health and protection. With Jango you will never get 60 banner like with Bossk.

[@CubsFanHan]

I should have clarified- this is true in cases where you Bh team can handle the speed of the ns team you’re facing. When you can’t, Jango is solid for the speed boost & contract

[@davul01]

@@CubsFanHan Yea but you still need good mods for Jango too... but if you have a bad luck, you will lose with jango in contrast to it with Bossk one of you characters may be on a brink of death but a few of your moves and he has full health and protection. It is way more foolproof and way more effective in terms of banners. Otherwise a great vid!

[@nathanmatthews4424]

Do not use CLS vs Padme unless there’s no zeta on her unique you will die

[@mradv1ce]

Another counter for FO is my boi Grievous with his droids, 30 second battles!

[@ryanfitzpatrick6557]

Bastila is excellent against Palp and CLS

[@alexbeltran1771]

Loll I was just saying to my guildmates how NS were pissing me off in GA... And you come up with this. Are you listening to your viewers? 😂

[@ivomollov3073]

I always try going cheese and ultimately losing the entire battle. I've known who counters who but always try comming up with something more optimal which made me end up second more times than I care to remember

[@usmanya5110]

I'm not sure CLS will work vs padme? Because of attacks out of turn.

[@usmanya5110]

How does CLS counter Padme? It's a team that does too many attacks out of turn

[@user777360]

You can finish off Baslita lead team easily with (speed moded) NS.

[@criggelations]

When I saw "Teir" I shed a tear...

[@renemrgan5823]

Very good

[@Daishi43]

Just a tip for the thrawn counter to DR. You keep saying thrawn must be faster than BSF, but thrawn has TM swap mechanics and CBM only lasts for 1 turn. If thrawn is slower than BSF swap his TM with whomever has the highest TM, and thrawn should be able to fracture before opposing BSF gets another turn. This way even a slightly slower thrawn JKR team can counter DR.

[@CubsFanHan]

Yeah I wish I emphasized this in the video. I recorded it a few weeks ago and since learned a bit more about how the strategy works best

[@benspeeds]

zzPadme jka zahsoka gk 3po/Barris counters Darth Revan with Malak and GG.

[@patrick5470]

Traya needs to be on the Counter to JTR.

[@somethingsomethingdarkside8245]

What about asajj lead with nest? Seeing this a ton in TW

[@erickenna7595]

I have used palp lead against padme successfully 4 of 5 times so far

[@jimmycoombs1791]

empire seems to work well against padme

[@phyalert4008]

not sure why zcarth are tier 2. Very easy to beat. You already have 4 counters and there are many more as well. Rogue 1, First order, scoundrels (with high tenacity nest) to name a few

[@loganhenry1197]

zCarth zMission and zZalbar OR team beats NS pretty consistently, my OR team is 78k power and can beat 98k NS teams because of all the health regen

[@Kazperian]

ok so counter everything with cls or traya :P

[@psy1233]

a really good nest can solo Bastila with stuff like farmboy lead

[@craagthar7616]

Bastilla shan fallen with palp lead works well against nightsisters i win every time

[@WannabeShady90]

Imperial troopers are the best counter against night sisters. One of the easiest wins on offense. Use Veers, Starck, death trooper, shore trooper and distance trooper. Padmé Amidala is coutered by Galactic Empire.

[@WannabeShady90]

@@ReIigionlsForIdiots I've four million GM and I've not lost a battle against night sisters for months. To be honest, I'm just doing the first few attacks manually and then go on autoplay. Mostly because I've seen more Enfys on night sister Teams and it takes a while to kill Enfys off.

[@WannabeShady90]

@@ReIigionlsForIdiots The best thing is that most players have optimized their night sisters for damage, not for speed or health, so they are super easy to kill.

[@theohawkins1]

Padme can beat Darth Revan as well. Just got to have it decked out

[@MirzaBaig77777]

Maul Lead, Seperatists. You forgot them. Also, I can beat jedi revan, padme and talzin easily with palp. Jedi revan only if my thrawn is faster than jkr. But the other two, its a 100% win

[@upgrader99]

I took out a G12 Grevious squad (sun fac and geo solider) with only 1 G12 ewok team

[@labaronharrison3606]

Ewoks are a great counter to first order.

[@dano_music5662]

I like using nest against palp (daze)

[@kingtheoden7]

Can you share a picture summing up all the graphics?

[@CubsFanHan]

End of the video shows both :)

[@revannitup4550]

Also against NS because of blocking their revive

[@jacobwood1548]

Who here also went to close the 10% battery power pop up when it appeared onscreen?

[@poonegev6519]

I run through padme with my palp and dark side bastila

[@topsetjewellery]

Nightsisters can beat CLS easily too - just take out Chewie first.

[@ryanroberts5449]

I use my greivous for ns. They cant handle grevious' aoe

[@AngryJoe567]

My padme is easy counter to malak, 90% win and you forgot about it :(

[@480_xander9]

Anyone else fell for the low battery notification

[@darthunlucky8283]

I run Traya in arena with Thrawn, Sion, DN, and fallen bastie. I can beat 90% of jedi revan teams that I see.

[@MrBotAidan]

I found palp lead is a better counter to Padme than traya

[@tamtelskreej3479]

If their squad doesn’t include 3PO :)

[@mrsolecrab]

Ewoks for FO always. Ewoks, ewoks, ewoks.

[@motuaow1609]

Teir is Tier.

[@bearform666]

Use bastilla against Papa Palp.

[@fluxrono1811]

grievous can also counter revan