The Ultimate Gaming Handheld???? - GPD Win 3 Review

[@therealsimoncello9071]

By FAR the best review out there for the gpd win 3, congratulations, amazing!

[@RaidOwl]

These tiny handheld PCs have come a LONG way since my first one in 2008 lol

[@CyberBlaed]

Had a sony Vaio of the EXACT same design.. miss that bugger, Vista and an underpowered CPU made it junk :( (except sony had it in 2006).. sooo yeah.. sony the leader of the pack but before its time :(

[@H31MU7]

@@CyberBlaed would kill for a brand new sony pc with these specs/form factor

[@Heckinwhatonearth]

@@H31MU7 I had an asus n10j 10 inch laptop in 2008. 256mb dedicated geforce g9300. Used to play cod 4, waw, and tf2 on it on the go....

[@chrishixson487]

OMG Jeff. You should write commercial scripts for a living. Hilarious.

[@CraftComputing]

That is a lot of what I do anymore :-D

[@mavd5831]

Great review! Glad to see the progress made on handheld PCs.

[@jafizzle95]

I will personally email Manscaped and demand they double your rate. That was masterful.

[@MikeBohde]

Nice ad, I got a good laugh out of that. Your ads are good enough I don't mind and will let them play instead of skipping them.

[@falldoughnuts]

Jeff, nice review of this unit! I know from the live shows (which I usually catch the next day) how much you love these things. :) I really like the new design of the 3, and the controls improvements. That said, ehh... not sure the price is something I could stomach for the use I'd get. :) I wanted to lead with that because you have, as usual, great content in this video and a great overview of this device. I like the performance tests. Though, I want to offer a constructive tip without being "that comment" and just seen as nitpicky or complaining. I truly mean no offense, love your videos, and realize they cost me nothing. So thank you! :) With your videos, you are sliding into your "TV Newscaster" voice, but have developed a predictive speech habit that is a type of High Rising Terminal, aka Upspeak. To most folks, this is noticeable, and for some folks, this is incredibly difficult to listen to, especially at a high speech rate. The most common form of this is derived from "valleyspeak" and involves an upward intonation or pitch toward the end of a sentence making it sound like a question. In this case, however, your final syllabic sound has a rollercoaster-like bump with almost every complete sentence. There are a few parts of this video when you are more casually speaking and not doing this quite so emphatically. ( 8:52 - 8:59 ) Many others, though, it's largely present. In newscasting speech, this would be referred to as either a form of upspeak, and/or a sing-song pitch pattern. I don't know if this is useful or if you care, and I know it isn’t a huge deal. I'll spare any additional speech nerd details. :) As someone particularly sensitive to this, I just thought I would share--I'd want to know! Thanks Jeff, looking forward to more videos! 😊

[@ShadeKoopa]

Nice video. Good review on the GPD Win 3. Love to hear your thoughts on the GPD Win Max.

[@royandescartes]

Honestly, i came across this channel last week, meaning 19/5/21 and i must say, i love it. you get to the point and you pour and share KNOWLEDGE. unlike other tech channels. BIG RESPECT bro. Keep it up. you got my sub for life.

[@juanignacioaschura9437]

6:05 Clearly influenced by the Sony VAIO UX and UMPCs of the mid-2000s.

[@klobiforpresident2254]

There's a GPD Win with a number larger than two? Hear that sound? That's my wallet wailing in agony. Just hoping this can bring _StopDrop&Retro_ back from the grave.

[@RFLCPTR]

TRUE. StopDrop&Retro is a fucking legend.

[@edgartheface]

Got my i7 variant yesterday: Holy! That thing is chunky! Really lovely to game and work on it … but it reminds me of the PSP disc drive when the fan kicks in. You notice the sudden rotational force.

[@FireMrshlBill]

How loud is the fan? Loud enough to be annoying to a spouse/significant other if you are playing in bed at night? What about couch gaming while sitting next to someone else watching tv?

[@edgartheface]

@@FireMrshlBill You should definitely lower the CPU TDP and/or Fan Speed in the BIOS. Also limiting the FPS to 30 or so … otherwise the little thingy will draw 30-40 watts of energy and becomes a hair dryer in your hands.

[@FireMrshlBill]

@@edgartheface Thanks, in the air about getting one. You have any other issues other experienced about driver issues or hardware issues? Also, just saw Steam is making something, but will only be linux based apparently... so eh.

[@edgartheface]

@@FireMrshlBill Everyhing's fine .... got the WiFi6 chip, working joysticks, working buttons and switches, Windows without viruses, no scratches, nothing ... the thing is that thousands of people get this hardware, everyone is simply happy that it works, ... some people are pissed that their model doesn't work flawlessly and start a thread about it ... and suddenly it looks very biased like every unit is broken. Mine for example is perfect.

[@bigpoppadmc]

This was a great video. Was searching for Win 3 info and the way you lay out your reviews was great. Subscribed!!

[@RockNLol2009]

Best ad I have seen in quite some time :D

[@schubajo]

Good review. Even funnier ad segment.

[@sacasoh]

Thanks for the review, the comparison with previous devices was very informative - many reviews focus only on the power of the device and not ergonomics, build quality, control issues, etc.

[@AdmV0rl0n]

Bonus on 720P screens - as we get older, its harder to deal with hi res small size screens. Pixel density rising and rising doesn't help once the mk1 eyeball starts to get on a bit. Besides, 1080P up on a 5.5 gets real hard work even if you have good eyes.

[@richardleaneagh4274]

dollop of butter keeps the alcohol from evaporating best to add it before the whisky

[@ChibiOcti]

Good in depth review. Thanks!

[@METALDKNO]

Imagine what you can do with this size in five years... Oh snap.

[@CoalitionGaming]

I came back to watch the video again to see how good this was again lol

[@justjoeblow420]

I came ridiculously close to ordering one of these but the keyboard decision left a bit of a bad taste in my mouth as one of my main use cases for this type of device would be some older PC games on the go as my 3ds and Vita meet most my non-PC related gaming need when I go out. Mostly because well I do have a thing about playing a ton of traditional rogue likes and a devices like the GPD Win line fit that bill ridiculously well.

[@ItsJustJoeC]

This is a form factor I am actually excited to see develop.

[@tommye9251]

It's nice screen looks better in hand.

[@JasonCrosen]

I love the performance improvements I am seeing, but the ergonomics are a bit of a turn-off. I kind of wish they had kept the clamshell design so it was easier to throw into a bag and go.

[@brandonatherton]

I wish more games were designed as well as Hitman. It runs so damn well, even my 10 year old machine can handle it at max, 2560x1080. As for the GPD Win 3, I actually really like what they did. The design break was great, having a hidden keyboard that only needs to take up space when needed was a great design choice, and the hardware holds up much better than I'd honestly expect. They have a super solid foundation now, so I'll be keeping an eye on where this goes in the future. If they could get some backing from someone like Steam, that could end up being amazing. Anyone who could help with production and cut those costs would be huge, as lower the cost to make it more consumer friendly, as well as allowing more headroom for higher end parts without breaking the bank are really important. Regardless, they've done a pretty phenomenal job. I think durability/longevity of the device is the only thing left to look at, and as long as it holds up well, this is a solid win, and hopefully they can really take off.

[@Xaositek]

The Sony Vaio UX lineup is deeply copied in the design language of this unit. Great update to the GDP system!

[@RaidOwl]

OMG that was what I had! I couldn't for the life of me remember what it was lol

[@1415gatewayable]

Bro I had the sony vaio ux 490n I paid to get it modded with a dual core cpu. That's why I'm such a fan of the win GPD 3

[@one_up907]

My bros GPD win 3 broke just by dolphin Emulator, just bricked he was calibrating the sticks and bam The GPd win 3 shut off and wouldn't turn on, tried resetting nothing, tried ext display nothing, tried contacting GPD nothing, tried about every trick in the book nothing.

[@CoalitionGaming]

Here to show my support! One of these things has interested me for a while, its crazy to see how these are even possible nowadays. Feel like old Netbooks basically turned into these...but more capable! I did try to game on my old MSI Wind (with the push button overclock enabled)...10-20 fps in world of warcraft wasn't the greatest lol.

[@ProjectPhysX]

15:55 holy fuck that is impressive performance for a handheld device! Back in the day on my Radeon HD3200 toaster laptop I was totally happy with 20-30fps :D

[@SankoshSaha_01]

Came here after the podcast... Thank god you guys mentioned it

[@BrookZerihun]

more like Sony UX280 or the OQO model 2 UMPC from a few years ago, the dock as well is the same as the Sony UX series of Handhelds

[@trxshful4513]

As I do see your point for the 720p screen resolution I just was hoping the screen was a little bigger a switch for example is mobile but still has a larger screen display. Also does the screen size lose the immersion for you?

[@itsdeonlol]

Jeff's ADs are great to watch!!!

[@greenprotag]

Love this ^_^ I am especially enjoying the tasteful use of Zelda themed text. Great review methodology. Very appropriate to mobile PC gaming

[@bskull3232]

Been eyeing on it for a while, but decided not to buy it for the following reasons: 1. No physical KB and touch KB is 3 key only, meaning CTRL+ALT+DEL is not possible (DEL requires FN). 2. No second TBT port, nor the stand supports TBT, meaning if I use the stand, I will lose TBT connectivity, meaning 2x 4K output is not possible (I don't want a portable gaming machine, I want a portable workhorse with good office dockablity). 3. Screen is not very vivid, and has huge bezels. I will seriously consider it if it has a 6 inch screen so I can try using it as 100% scaling, and has a working keyboard, be it a physical one or a well implemented touch one. Also the rumble is too strong. This is not a toy for my girlfriend.

[@Darkknight512]

I think the most interesting thing here for me is seeing the state Intel Xe drivers are in. DG2 should make a reasonable splash at the midrange for 1080p, maybe 1440p.

[@belaircomputerguyllc4001]

Thanks Jeff - now I have to pause this to clean the coffee off my screen. You may have outdone Jayztwocents' ifixit commercial.

[@roguedemonhunter2636]

I backed the win 3 in January aswell cant wait till it arrives

Gosh, I cracked with the travel kit joke in the sponsored spot 🤣

[@aandr7127]

To be comfortable for classic games you have to map triggers to back buttons and use those while holding like an nes controller

[@gamesandstuff7724]

You say they shouldn’t have had images of Cyberpunk on their store page because it doesn’t run very well, yet you have done the same on your thumbnail alongside the phrase “seriously impressive”.

[@mikejames6588]

I love my surface duo 2. Has lte and does everything I could ask for

[@Tygron]

Kinda wish it had the clamshell still. It might be a bit large now to fit in my pocket, but the previous iterations being pocketable was something I liked. Protecting both the screen and the analog sticks is a very high priority for me and I don't really like the idea of having to stick it in its own little case much like when I carry my Switch around. Also woulda been nice to see how well Halo: MCC runs on it but eh.

[@PRuDislav]

there is gonna be Win MAx 2 later this year with clamsell design

[@lmaotv5846]

I have that same trackball mouse..its amazing

[@Slystral]

Did you install the touchscreen drivers for the WIN 2? Also the reason why the d-pad on the WIN 2 is mushy is likely because the membrain underneath has been broken in too much.

[@TehNoobSchool]

I'm really loving mine

[@boredstream7214]

there was a Sony Vaio with that look

[@traynor1987]

Was going to pre order until I seen this review. Will get the aya neo as it has the same layout as the switch.

[@Knocks83]

17:07 but can it run Crysis Remastered?

[@younlo2440]

Hi how did you turn on hotspot 5ghz in gpd win 3

[@thomasusheriii971]

My GPD Win 3 has 2 drives pre installed. One is the C drive which shows to have Windows installed on it and the other is the D drive which is the 1TB SSD. My question is, if I want to upgrade my 1TB to a 2 or 4TB don't I just remove the old one and replace it with the new one and then format the new drive? I shouldn't have to reinstall Windows right?

[@Ranter-yi9zq]

It’s a giant sidechick! I mean sidekick. Awesome device btw.

[@Vatharian]

OQO Model e2 anyone? I had one with DVD-rom dock. I have really fond memories of using it back then.

[@bash5552]

wAIT!!! WHAT HAP to the drink from the first half? What was that?

[@mathdantastav2496]

where you using fps++ on zelda?

[@SAerror1]

I would much rather have the win3 internals in the win2 form factor, I hate the inverted vertical controller layout on the 3 with both sticks on top and a clamshell is much better for protecting the display glass.

[@gothicm3rcy426]

i owned both the win and win 2, I also still have a gpd xd...... the issue I have is... whilst some build quality is good.... in other parts is cheap. Maybe the win3 can fix this.... but it still doesnt want to make me ditch an ms surface for some a little smaller.

[@kellyjr0918]

You can also run steam which generally has better sales then consoles. I've tested mine on slot of games and only had 3 that wouldn't run surprised me since Intel drivers generally arnt that great

[@george1353]

nice review!

[@lexluthermiester]

That keyboard and controller button placement are deal breakers, not to mention the price and screen size. Better keyboard, better controller button placement, larger screen(7" or 8") and MUCH lower price($400) and this would be a much more appealing offering. Yes, I know the price-point means lesser specs, but I'm willing to live with that. I mean really GPD, do you actually want to sell your product and get it into peoples hands? Or do you want to make a thrashing game system that's hard to use? In these economic times, few can afford $500, let alone $1000 or $1500.

[@blackmagician7645]

😕That's strange for it not to be more playable with keypad games. Considering what I heard from Phawx that the awsd keys are programmed into the left thumb stick when you switch to mouse control set up. Plus I thought the game pad would be comfortable on the lower left. As that is how every other gaming portable places them as well. Including the Switch.

[@CraftComputing]

I mentioned the mouse/keyboard emulator mode, but didn't expand on it. Yes, in Mouse Mode, the controller emulates mouse movements and keyboard presses. My comment was more aimed at the touch keyboard not being usable for gameplay. And the D-Pad is uncomfortable because there is so little space between it and the side of the device, there's just not much to hold on to there. The Switch works because it's wider, with more area to grip (at least IMO).

[@blackmagician7645]

@@CraftComputing 😃Ah- ok. Thanks for the reply.

[@FarmerKlein]

oh man is it just me or is the audio just out of sync of the video?

[@covids12345]

I had a win 2 a while back. Gamecube and PS2 ran fine, never had an issue

[@Osean_Kitty]

pog thumbnail

[@gh0stedone472]

But why is it 1300 bucks. Like I understand but seems like a lot. Would love to see a more budget option with an I3 and 4gb ram or something that’s less than a mortgage

[@FireMrshlBill]

The indiegogo appears to still be taking backers and is giving 13% off, so $998 for the i7 with a dock, less for the i5.

[@denvera1g1]

I'm patiently waiting for an updated GPDPocket with one of those 5w Athlon 4050e (assuming AMD makes one to update the aging Zen+Athlon 3050e) I'd also like to see the GPD P3 Max with an AMD 4750u, this(P2MAx) like the Pocket, is just small enough to fit into my pants pocket

[@deniedaddicted]

i just want to watch a video without hearing balls

[@MeatVision]

Runs better than my PC

[@tommye9251]

Any one know how to install playstation remote play on gpd win 3. Please help. Also you can do mods on this little device crazy!

[@richardleaneagh4274]

can you play this with the keyboard open

[@RemyL75]

Everytime i try to help Jeff stay out of budget trouble.... Me: Now Jeff, remember, do NOT say the prices out loud. Jeff: Got it Also Jeff: *lists prices out loud down to the exact penny* Me: *facepalm* Rambo: "Meow" (translation: You knew he was going to do it anyway, right?)

[@strain-tv]

side kick had a hidden game

[@TheOnePhun211]

Absolutely. Need. To. Invest.

[@Aaron-hg8jo]

I was like number 500. I like watching the numbers change.

[@Middcore]

Soon Manscaped will sponsor every PC youtuber. What does their market research tell them about people into this hobby, I wonder?

[@CraftComputing]

My audience is 98.5% male, with 78% between 25-50. It's literally their exact demographic.

[@Kekeripo]

They should have stuck to clamshell. The slider is cool, but only that. Not practical, ruins ergonomics and replaced physical kb with a touch kb... guess they didn't want it to be a win max mini.

[@Deonn]

I think cemu isn't optimized for Xe because even on the gpd win 2 it could run BOTW just fine .

[@tylerberry7306]

The GPD win 2 ran GameCube and ps2 excellently unfortunately I don’t have any direct video of this but taki udon has full reviews on it.

[@1415gatewayable]

Now do a video showing different TDPs and play the games with higher graphics :D

[@1415gatewayable]

My review for this review: he said nothing about you plugging this system in and playing it with higher tdps which means way better performance. He talked about certain games not being playable in the sense of the controls. You also have an option of moving the screen higher up so it can be more comfortable. Review: c+

[@CraftComputing]

You want 90 minutes of battery life so you can get 120FPS on a 60Hz screen, be my guest. Also, I was speaking of hand comfort, not neck comfort. Review of this review reviewing my review: D Pay more attention in class!

[@1415gatewayable]

@@CraftComputing no I want 90 minutes of battery life maxing out the graphical options in the game. Remember no gaming laptop could be fully played without being plugged in it's just a nice feature and something good to add to your review that if you plug this device inside it becomes two times more powerful similar to the switch but much much better. Reviewing the review to my review to your response to my review. :)

[@ffgiza]

Reminds me of the old OQO umpc's.

[@mormegil231]

Wow this actually run CP2007 better than last gen consoles. :p

[@smithincanton]

Reminds me of the Sony Vaio UX Micro PCs from back in the day. Like one for one copy of the form factor.

[@GTArajgaming]

I think they should have just copied sony for the face buttons (in terms of placement) I also do think that sliding screen is a point of failure with the device one thing I never seem to see are inverted thumbsticks..... it rarely happens and it's a game changer for racers and FPS titles.... bless sony for introducing that....and then fading it out for the dog nose sticks and dual shock.

[@paulstubbs2778]

I was going to say 'but how can you use it with no GigE etc,', then out comes the docking station.....

[@Tech-Nobby]

Look like the ol' Vaio UX

[@mr.electronx9036]

design yes

[@rushmore3927]

Display is too small for most PC games and runs too hot. Mine turned into a regretfully expensive paper weight and now the Steam Deck mocks my purchase.

[@MrEditsCinema]

If the gpd win 3 does this well imagine the steam deck...

[@laloajuria4678]

i never understood these...my 15" laptop screen is too small....why go backwards?!

[@GummyBearRacing]

It's more about portability. Me personally I want one for what I'm troubleshooting systems so I can remote into them better. I have two crypto rigs and my server going it would be really nice to be able to check those without having to pull up my desktop or pull out my laptop. Parsec works but I prefer a physical keyboard.

[@daniellocklin787]

The simple idea that portable units like this are meant to be switch competitors is just silly.

[@sbojan83]

Yeah, but can it run Crysis 2.

[@PuddleBurger]

Uhh what? I own the gpd win 2, and gamecube, ps2, psp, even Wii is VERY playable. Emulation for those systems is almost perfect infact...

[@DarthPooh]

Does GameCube run good on it?

[@zoyboy1914]

yes

[@mutosanrc1933]

lol the third eddition is like a switch :D

[@greensamurai5805]

Man I was thinking about beam ng in this system !

[@TommyCrosby]

But... can it run Crysis Remastered?

[@VinnyVidiVintage]

Pretty early for this video... now I gotta watch it.

[@fierce134]

Upvoted solely for using gameplay footage from BL2

[@CraftComputing]

One of my all time favorites 🙂

[@saibamoe]

A ryzen APU would be much better Intel iGPU'd are way behind 🤦🏻 And maybe would have consumed even less power than the intel they put in this :(

[@redpilljesus]

13:55 - what the fuck, dude!

[@MakeItPerfectlyWrong]

Anyone else here after pre-ordering their Steam Deck?

[@prozac192]

yep! I guess we just watch this here until we get something better