The Ultimate Guide To Composition In Photography - Photography Visual Patterns #8

[@-AtomsPhere-]

We need more photographers like this talking about technique instead of gear! Love it

[@erik3205]

I know right, many preach gear doesn't matter and you don't need the latest and greatest, but then every week they discuss about switching systems for a newer camera.

[@michaelglasser258]

I’m soo tired about hearing about the latest gear, story is what matters. Thanks Pat for sharing your visual technique’s - 🤟🏻

[@dvo66]

It used be like this pre 2019 youtube, not sure somehow somewhere youtube photography became gear review and talk about the art became less and less appealing to algorithm

[@gasserabousaif]

I can't tell you how excited I got when I saw a new video about visual patterns. Great video Pat!

[@braydent94]

Loved the phrase "You are not an elitist, you're probably a wanker." Keep up the great vids Pat!

[@lizetteroni5410]

Said it so casually too hahaha

[@amalieemmynoether992]

Firstly I'd like to thank the algorithm gods for recommending your video. 😁 It was an interesting take on composition. Second is a small criticism ...I feel that with your own compositional tool (with the muli-lined format)- an object is in the frame is going to randomly fall on one of those lines just by chance since there are so many of them. Since the objects in your photos don't look haphazardly place and are brilliantly shot, I'd love to know what else your thinking about when using your composition tool. Looking forward to seeing more of this channel 😁 PS loved the humour..."you're not an elitist, you're a wanker"😂 that's gold!

[@sebastienmeyer2861]

Thank you so much for your video !! I have a question concerning your custom grid you mention at the end of the video. When are you using it and how? I guess you can't use it in the field, since your camera can't display it. Are you using it in post-production when you are fine-tuning your image crop? In this case, are you adding it as a layer on top of your image?

[@patkay]

im actually doing it mentally; sometimes i use the rule of thirds grid to help out, but most of time time i'm just doing this in my head. with some practice it sticks pretty fast

[@pedvro]

I really don't see how the compositional structure you mention at the end of the video can be helpful. With such a fine grid, with so many lines and intersections, virtually anywhere you'd place a subject on the plane would result in a 'balanced' composition - which is pretty much the same as having no grid or structure at all, and just scattering the elements on the plane at will.

[@devanteross2838]

I gotta say I don’t comment anywhere much but I really love your videos. I feel like I’m listening to someone read me a really good blog about life and my love for photos haha. I also am trying to stray away from gear content this year and your channel really is a good place for that: less gear reviews, more education and actual photo talk. Appreciate you PK.

[@ShotByDru_]

Another banger!! When I tell you you’re helping this Amateur Photographer out, you have no idea lol keep them coming man!

[@patkay]

glad they help!

[@fernanddurler4709]

PAT YOU ARE A GIFTED ARTIST/TEACHER…WAY AHEAD OF YOUR YEARS! THANKS FOR INSPIRING AN OLD CHAP OF 60 TRYING TO GET INTO MY PHOTOGRAPHY AGAIN AFTER 40 YEARS! A DUANTING LEARNING CURVE AND WAYYY TO TECHY THAN ID IDEALLY LIKE, BUT UNDERSTAND THE BROADER PICTURE 🙏

[@sallieturner8771]

Same here Fernando, waaaay to techy

[@belaacs5238]

Watching hundreds of videos on compositions, yours are the best. Doing photography for over 40 years I still learn something new from your videos. Thank you!

[@lindsayvarrie433]

I love how conscience you are. You cover so much by being precise and taking your time for anyone watching. Really easy to understand and put into practice. Thank you for this

[@Jermzybarra]

I can’t tell you why, but I’ve seen the thumbnails for your videos on my homepage everyday for the past year, but I’ve never clicked on one until now. Instant sub. Idk how I’ve never watched this series before, but you did a wonderful job teaching!

[@abduljalilattahir4764]

I never made a mistake by coming here. This is one of the best thing to happen to my photography. Thanks pat. We do love your videos. Always!

[@hitessa]

Love the idea of your grids! Do you have a template that you use when editing - or how did you manage to create a grid in a grid in a grid- and where do you use it, in post? :)

[@rnursemd]

Nice video. I always struggle with composition in the field. My camera overlays its LCD screen with the Rule of Thirds only. How do you apply the other grids in the field or do you do it in post?

[@thomasriera2030]

Great video, I love your Visual Patterns series! I agree with the other commenters here that we need more content like this. Photography fundamentals that develop your eye. Nice summary of the different grids! I have a question about your grid though. Makes sense how you built it but, there are so many lines that it seems hard to not have your subject on a line. Your grid seems to make thicker bands about the 1/3 and 1/2 lines. Do you use it more to define these as "zones"? Or, is this more useful if you are arranging multiple points of interest in a picture to put them in good relative positions. Most of the examples that you showed with your grid were simpler with 1 strong subject. Maybe elaboration on this could be its own video?

[@zeastburg]

This was a great intro series Pat. I’d say look for resources outside of Photography for anyone interested in improving their intuition for composition. Framed Ink (Marcos Mateu-Mestre) is a master class, as is Picture This (Molly Bang). Look to basic graphic design books (Ellen Lupton) for understanding grouping and hierarchy, grids, balance, proportion. Anything that helps you understand how the eye enters and moves around the frame. There’s usually a good composition inside every bad image just waiting to be cropped.

[@TorontoeditsPhotography]

You explained this so well! I really appreciated this video and I actually learned something. 🙏🏽👍🏽

[@afrancummins3817]

I don’t think I was ready to understand the golden ratio, but I do.. and I’m not sure what to do with this information. I feel like a child with the Infinity Gauntlet

[@eggs-benny]

This series is incredible. Thank you for making it

[@vinicius_de_lima]

awesome way you aproach this yours composition! Have you ever watched MrRobot? The framing of this series goes like this and its awesome! A great reference for all photographers

[@shellafransiska-y4h]

Ah, another guide to composition in photography? Can't get enough of those visual patterns! Keep 'em coming, I guess. 💁‍♂️

[@MondoRockable]

There are so many lines on your compositional model, how can you possibly miss? Yeah, that doesn't make sense.

[@shellafransiska-y4h]

Meh, another guide on composition? Can't we just shoot what feels right instead of following rules and patterns?

[@KennyChadinata]

Always so enlighting! Thanks for the great lesson! Btw regarding your compositional structure how can you use it while hunting photos? Can you somehow apply it to your camera or maybe do you use it when cropping your images?

[@christopherbailey128]

I could just be a blond by asking this question but how are you able to format that grid to overlay on your camera when your taking your shots ?.

[@gregpantelides1355]

Thank you, Pat! This series is so inspiring!

[@BrockLord]

Did you take Those photos of the woman with the red umbrella they are spectacular

[@perryyu2047]

hey pat love the series! the custom grid tip is a gem, is there a way to set that up on the iphone?

[@ryandunbar8851]

The Pat Kay Method

[@tpower96]

Completely off topic 😆 where’s the hoodie from !??

[@dylann4723]

Did anyone figure out if he got the gridlines onto his monitor or is he doing it in post?

[@HeyQuinton]

you should probably add the hook to your video before the introduction to retain viewership and prevent drop off - i.e. what the video will show you (maybe with a photo[s]) then get into the "hello...description

[@WanchaiChab]

I'm loving these videos! Quick question, did you design your website by yourself? If so, what language did you use?

[@raheenamohammed1863]

Just bought your Lightroom masterclass 🤸🏾‍♀️🤸🏾‍♀️(exciteddddd). Related to this video though… How do you practically incorporate this when you’re shooting please? Is it more intuitive or there is a setting that allows you have your own custom system on the screen while you shoot ?

[@adventurecoalition3690]

Great lesson/tutorial, thx for sharing your knowledge and expertise 👍

[@irmaindriani]

Thank you as always!

[@LeoArmenta]

Excellent!!! At last i understand the fibonacci!!! Suscribed!!!

[@AnjaInObject]

Thank you for this video. I have a question. How would you use your grid for a portrait/close up?

[@ddsdss256]

Thanks for posting, but we all need to keep in mind that there is no exception to the rule that there are exceptions to every rule! One of the biggest problems with basing composition on any grid-based pattern (or such things as the “rule of odds”) is that different elements of an image have different visual weight (largely dependent on luminance and chrominance) and will therefore need to be adjusted to compensate and provide “balance” (it that's what's desired). Balance (depending on how one defines that) isn't always the goal, as one may well want "dynamic tension." It’s good to know the “rules” (often in order to consciously avoid them most of the time), but of course there are exceptions (e.g., an almost-level horizon or obscured subject generally looks like you just screwed-up), but the main thing (just like in music) is to learn the fundamentals and then experiment to find your vision. Just go by “feel”-if it looks good (to you--who cares what others think, unless they're paying for a certain look), it is good, regardless of where the lines may fall.

[@kristiangurholt59]

In my opinion, using compositional tools like the rule of thirds does not make the composition balanced in and of itself. What makes the composition balanced is framing subjects and other elements in a way that take their compositional weight into account. If you have let’s say a single subject, like a person, on a simple and monotone background, like a beach and a blue sky, the most balanced composition would be with the person in the middle. Only if there were some other elements adding weight to either side of the frame, then I think it would make sense to place the subject on the opposite side of that, such as where the gridlines intersect.

[@thedlawrence4931]

been a hobbyist photographer for 2yrs.. and along the way i got tired of photography because i feel like my photos are boring bcuz i'm always using the rule of thirds when i look at my camera.. watching this video to help myself compose my photos better.. and try other composition aside from the rule of third..

[@TheSolitaryEclectic]

Thank you so much for this video! I am a new-ish photographer hobbyist and I would love to try out this composition grid you created. How can I work with it? Thank you!

[@alangrate5718]

I wish I had found your videos 6 months ago! I tend to use the center position and golden ratio the most. I like your grids. Can that be loaded into LrC and is that something you share?

[@alexsamk]

Yahoo! Another one!

[@patkay]

woo hoo! enjoy!

[@AtomicPixel]

Solid stuff bro. Thanks for sharing! Some new ideas for me to try out :)

[@remmelz]

Is there any way to see these overlays in camera when you are framing your shots? Or is this something that you would add in Lightroom to adjust your framing afterwards? Just trying to figure out how I would go about shooting with some of these compositions without seeing the overlay in camera.

[@alexandermckown1409]

Do you have a preset grid for your nine point chart? Your videos are very informative. Thank you, Alex

[@a.beckwith4576]

Thankyou I enjoyed the video, I would like to see you in action taking a photograph and give us a walk/talk through your thoughts.

[@mylifepart2]

Nice...I learnt a lot ...I think I can use this in my video framing too... beautiful..thx you...

[@WicherBos]

I am using the Dynamic Symmetry principles a lot… kind of mix of triangles and grid structure…

[@fsi2210]

A very interesting way of looking at composition. I credit Myron Barnstone for my approach to composition , he was very formalised and his compositional teachings were based on the Golden Section, Phi and Root Rectangles. It was tough and it didn’t really click with me, on the purpose of his rigidity until much later, it wasn’t to limit how we saw, but to force us to see, and convey the artists intent and to instinctively understand the power behind the choice of line, shape, colour and angle in conveying a story. I don’t follow the rules as laid out but rather approach it as a relationship, which element do I use to create the atmosphere or emotion I want to portray.

[@kesa.chandra]

Thank you for sharing the video! It was really helpful for me to start photography

[@micheldroguett]

It is very Interesting grid in 10:05 you show us. In my case I learned composition around 2016 to take photo, but I think it is more instinct that thinking about it, I don't know how to avoid it yet.

[@thilinaalagiyawanna3680]

Thank you very much

[@wolfgangfitzsimons6941]

Great series of videos. Thank you for saying what most never get around to doing. You have given me more insight to ideas that i would not otherwise employ.

[@kingofetiquette1652]

I'm really interested in your own compositional tool, but how do you apply it? Did you add it to your camera, do you use it in editing or do you use it in a different way?

[@Bduboff]

I use grids a lot in my design work. I had never thought to use it for photography as well. But it makes a lot of sense.

[@hotelunion2368]

I need that composition structure you created in my life, like right now. How do I get me one of these?

[@frankcarenza921]

Wow! Thank you very much for sharing this.

[@GregBrecker]

Nice, descriptions of a rather ethereal theme. I think your integration of and addition to the center and rule of thirds "rules" is quite insightful.

[@whitenoodlebrain]

Thank you, this is super helpful for beginners.

[@tryweb_villeongheisrelevan4742]

👆❤Yoo this dude has done pure and great job this time you are recommended dude 👍👍💓

[@tryweb_villeongheisrelevan4742]

👆❤Yoo this dude has done pure and great job this time you are recommended dude 👍👍💓

[@dhairyasharma6627]

You gained a sub for not talking abt gear and something much more useful

[@silas1414]

Awesome. Gear videos are good but theory is most delicious.

[@scottyharp]

How would you set up your compositional grid in Lightroom?

[@sknygames]

Thank you for explaining something that before this video took me about 3-5 youtube videos to semi-understand but not quite. Straight to the point, I love it

[@PacoM.]

This is just wonderful. Amazing breakdown and amazing technique.

[@suavevision4678]

Do you have a master class on posing and knowing your camera

[@BronsonWilson]

Thanks Pat, these videos are super informative. Really appreciate what you are doing.

[@sandfrex8790]

Please, can you show us how to shoot pro photos of ourselves with an iphone?

[@angelogodwinuy80]

Been waiting for this! 😍

[@patkay]

enjoy!

[@prince2thethrone]

@@patkay can you make a video showing how to make your grid, and use it in light room? I would like to try it but im new to Lightroom . Thanks

[@damien5558]

I love the composition idea you come up with it's pretty cool

[@adamblank5287]

Awesome video Pat! I love your content. Interesting idea about the super grid. I am going to give it a try.

[@pruthakpruthibi7150]

Could you please simplify your own last method?

[@shellafransiska-y4h]

Nice visua

[@hodophileanil]

Another great video from the legend, love the explanation and simple style teaching style. Love from India 🇮🇳

[@johannadaydreamer]

Do you use the grid while shooting or when cropping in post?

[@DavidRamgobin]

gonna yoink that overlay. thanks hehe

[@patkay]

haha no probs! eventually you'll just do it by eye!

[@JasonLawrenceNoel]

I appreciate you and your great lessons. 🙏

[@seemerollin675]

Thanks a lot for an awesome and helpful video again 🙏

[@BrLee-nb2xu]

Finally, next episode for visual pattern 😍😍

[@neillogan6166]

Pretty cool video. Interesting bit at the end.

[@wesleyzoutewelle8031]

Great video man, +1 sub!!!

[@philbertdeangelo2809]

I learned a lot of my composition through your video. Thank you so much for sharing it.

[@mojtabakazemi7606]

👍👍👍

[@johnharkness6095]

Another great video! Keep up the great work!

[@Zeropadd]

😶‍🌫️

[@danielnnng]

Very valid rules! Great vid

[@patkay]

thank you sir!

[@themrgumbatron]

Love your composition style

[@milicaradanovic6860]

Great video and thank u for all advices u give us for free💯

[@jeffreysproule]

Easily the most important part of photography 📷 great video!

[@zachcdy3249]

Amazing videos🙌🏾

[@-AtomsPhere-]

I want that hoodie! Who makes it?

[@sri-lankan]

Thank you so Uchith Pat.

[@mouggy000]

Cheers mate! Lots of tips

[@herovoice]

Thank you very much for your work!!!

[@diegogarcia-serna9773]

Great video as always!

[@irvinc.1619]

Good stuff dude 👍🏽