The Ultimate Guide to Sink Tips & Sinking Lines (feat. Kelly Galloup)!

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for your support - Stay tuned, lots more great educational content on the way!

[@03bugeye]

Thanks Brian.. your videos have helped me tremendously in buying the correct gear the 1st time !!!!!

[@Madriveroutfitters]

@@03bugeye Happy to help. Remember that you can always call the shop as well with questions. Thanks!

[@joshpaxman328]

Did your amazon client catch fish after you straightened him out?

[@trollgrgg2672]

I started fly fishing about 30 years ago. It was pretty much all self taught by watching other fishermen and asking the occasional question. I watch your videos faithfully and learn something new and informative on every one. I just watched this latest one on sinking tips and sinking lines and it has changed everything for me - from techniques to attitudes and understanding. I didn't realize how ignorant I was. The worst part of relying on asking questions of strangers is that often you don't know what questions to ask. You just answered all my questions, even the ones I didn't know to ask. Now I just can't wait for the ice to be off and I can apply my newfound knowledge. Thank you very much - keep. up the good work.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks so much for watching and please stay tuned.

[@corywilliams1612]

Another very impressive video from the mad river team I just stated looking into getting a sinking form line and don’t know where to start then this video came up on my feed. PERFECT!

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching and always feel free to call the shop for help. That's what they do!!!!

[@alkinceratfafterthefly6284]

I used a full sinking line today and man what a difference!!! Especially when the water is cold.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

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[@TezukuriLure]

Awesome vid. I’m watching it, listening it, repeating it. I’m a Japanese and not good at speaking English. But Brian’s lesson is so much understandable. Thanks MRO!! Most favorite channel 😄👍

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[@jaybryan9294]

Thank you Brian! Super informative video. This one answered so many questions I had.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks a ton for watching. Glad it helped you out.

[@bruceallen6377]

Thanks Brian! You answered a lot of questions I had, love Mad River Outfitters!

[@Madriveroutfitters]

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[@TheSavagederek]

Absolutely brilliant video, helping anglers understand what's happening under the surface and how the fly is actually fishing. When it comes to sink tip and full sinking lines, I absolutely love Airflo. The range they have, that covers everything and every situation. Add that to one of the modern cassette reels, and the fish really are screwed 😂. Keep up the good work guys 👌

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching!

[@jerryjohnson3190]

Best video you have ever done, Thank you. Makes sinking lines understandable

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching!

[@eventhorizon5183]

The very best video on sinking lines!

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks so much for watching!

[@skwiz05]

One of the better vids Ive watched on the topic.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

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[@raykoerner9966]

Thank you for the information, I have never used a sink tip line, now I at least understand what I never knew about sinking lines, very informative.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

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[@clevo12]

Thanks, Brian. I have a sinking fly line, but it's not a very common type of line here in New Zealand. So I didn't know how to fish with this line. I tried to cast across the river, leave it to swing, and then retrieve the streamer up the current. I've never caught a fish, only snagged the bottom of the river. Now, I figured out that I did everything wrong :D

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching and happy to help!

[@adamramerth1409]

So valuable! So informative! Thanks Brian and thanks MRO

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching!!!

[@pttroe8142]

So all of these years I didn't have to ty ALL these 9' leaders? ;) Thanks man, I'l try it next time fishing.🤙

[@Madriveroutfitters]

With a sink tip? No more than 4'. Thanks for watching.

[@pttroe8142]

@@Madriveroutfitters Ah, I got confused when mentioned: " any kind of fishing". 😬Thanks for your content, it rekindles my passion for both fishing and tying. Regards from Norway.

[@lanemortensen1952]

I’ve been fishing sinking lines for over 20 years and I learned more about fishing then in this video than all the time I’ve spent on the water. Very well done video!

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks so much for watching!

[@bfgplays1977]

I was just looking at your channel this morning for more information on sinking tips and a few hours later I got a notification about this video. Thanks!

[@Madriveroutfitters]

We saw you there looking around and just whipped this up. Always happy to help.

[@davidmarks7787]

Great video! Thanks so much for providing such a clear and understandable lesson.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for being here.

[@tomm6431]

A must watch video. I have dabbled a little with intermediate and sinking lines. But this video does a great job showing you how and why - taking the mystery out of these lines.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching.

[@alymcgill6476]

Really enjoyed this fishing talk on fly lines !!!!and i have realised ive been doing it not wrong but just not right .and without a doubt the best talk and video I've seen thank you

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching.

[@bartmroberts]

Great work as usual Brian and team! Now I need to order some new lines!!!!

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching.

[@Anthony-eg7pw]

Great video…looking forward to more Q&A episodes! Thanks

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching.

[@_nickhill_]

Thank you for another great video! Super informative and a great learning resource!

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching.

[@jeffdurocher8669]

Wow, an encyclopedia of information. Thank you

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching.

[@boredbritishsinger]

Great video! Very full of good information

[@Madriveroutfitters]

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[@richardjones2129]

Thank you Brian for a very informative video on sinktip n sinking lines. It helps 4 better understanding of how 2 use it. God Bless n fish on!

[@Madriveroutfitters]

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[@rocknrollratfink]

Thanks for the great video.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching!

[@profpigeon5441]

Great vid..sink tip fly lines have completely changed how I fish for smallies in central texas

[@Madriveroutfitters]

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[@mrt31604]

Thanks Brian!

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching.

[@tommypuett4713]

Must watch this one again. Got lost in a few places.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

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[@MTmixer84]

Just ordered myself a line tender to keep my new shovelhead line off the bottom of the river after attempting to use it one time and quickly learning that lesson.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching.

[@03bonneville]

Great information, speed up the learning curve

[@Madriveroutfitters]

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[@artemvarbanets1622]

Thank you for explaining it...

[@Madriveroutfitters]

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[@terdfergeson23]

Cool I will definitely get a sinking line to add to my kit. I’ve had good luck streamer fishing putting the split shot a good ways up the line, about 4-6 feet above the fly. It seems to do a good job keeping the streamer from rising too much while stripping but it can be a pain when the line gets tangled. Thanks for the tips 👍

[@Madriveroutfitters]

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[@thomasmyers6000]

Love that whiteboard

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks! He would be lost without it.

[@leandrobomrad6107]

Thanks a lot, it helps me and I will use this new knowledge next time y go to the river. Very informative, congrats

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching.

[@DB-iu8yl]

Very good information. Thanks for all of the great content.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching.

[@johnkinsfather64]

Good show as I was confused by when to use sink tip and when to use full sinking. Once again this season I will make an effort to fish streamer of which I have about 70+.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

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[@RoryLynott]

I dunno if they were the first of their kind however I fish a very old teeny 200 and 300 sinking head lines. They rock despite their antiquity, lol.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

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[@lawrenceessard4086]

Doing a good job 😊😊😊

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching.

[@hornav]

Thanks, MRO. So much info!

[@Madriveroutfitters]

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[@shanekennedy484]

hi there. i understand this video has been out for a while, hopefully you can still answer my question. you made a comment that once a sinking line is stripped, the sinking line stops sinking. my question is, does a sinking line begin to stop sinking once river current moves the line too. i will admit that i was one of those fly anglers who wouldn't promote sinking lines in any river capacity. Since watching you and Kelly talk about the use of sinking lines in rivers and streams, i have totally changed my mind set. Thank you guys!

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching. Please send your questions over to Brian directly through the shop and he'll be happy to answer! You can send him an e-mail or give him a call directly.

[@adambickel7125]

Well done sir. Thank you for an informative video.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

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[@efam7349]

Great info well presented..thank you

[@Madriveroutfitters]

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[@fabianvaras1273]

Hi there nice video youre right on it i just got 2 brown huge trout like 4 kilos each in the Limay river in the patagonian Argentina the sicking works grate

[@Madriveroutfitters]

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[@joutdoorsmen23]

Awesome video very informative thanks for sharing your knowledge.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

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[@joshuabennett7334]

I was trying to buy a line for my smallmouth rod and the shop worker started talking with me about where I would be fishing. He told me I should not be using a sink tip line in the river I generally fish because it was only 4 to 6 foot deep. He was adamant I use a floating line and a regular 3x tippet on my 8 weight fly rod. I politely put everything back and found elsewhere to do my business.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Hopefully you ran right to Mad River Outfitters.com?

[@gordonmaki]

I guess you could use a stripping basket for full sink lines. (I started fly fishing 1980, with full sink. Ernie Schweibert told Mr "there are better ways to get your fly down" but then didn't say how.😅😊

[@Madriveroutfitters]

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[@sallysanderson3627]

Thank you so much for this information!

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching and please stay tuned!

[@AndrewLakey]

Excellent video

[@Madriveroutfitters]

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[@sidewaysrain7609]

Actually cutties love dropping flies you absolutely want to jig for cut throat. Brown's also can be fond of a dropping (falling) fly. Your buddy, Kelly Galloup would agree!

[@Madriveroutfitters]

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[@frank00nixon]

Awesome video!

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching.

[@johnkinsfather64]

Helped a lot.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching and happy to help.

[@jeremyanderson347]

That was some great nolage

[@Madriveroutfitters]

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[@hugoforget2069]

Thank you so much

[@Madriveroutfitters]

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[@curtbrooks7495]

Great content thanks brother

[@Madriveroutfitters]

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[@Fly_Fishing_Fool]

Been fly fishing for 25 years and most of this stuff I didn't know 😬

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for being here. We love to share!!!

[@rodc4334]

This was really great! I learned a lot. I often wade fish small streams and wander far from the car so carrying multiple rods is a pain. 5 wt 9 ft. I could buy a second spool, in fact I guess that is the best answer. But I also have a sinking leader I sometimes use (with a way too long leader, will tie on a much shorter one tomorrow!) with my floating line. Switch between dry, dry dropper, sinking leader with small streamers. Does that make sense or is that just such a kluge it makes little sense?

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching. Please contact Brian directly through the shop via email or phone with your questions and he’ll be happy to help.

[@davidbennett1585]

“No self respecting bait fish ever tried to escape against the current”. Another classic Brian quote.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

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[@lymanmayhew935]

I started fly-fishing in the early 80's but am very new to sinking flylines. When you day short leader,how short are you talking? River and lake! Thanks😊

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching! Shoot Brian an email at [e-mail] and he can help you out. 👍

[@kracmarondrej870]

Greetings from czech republic. Thank you very much for this video, it is very helpful. I would really love to gain insight into sinking lines. I would like to ask about micro/trout-skagit lines. For example OPST makes Commando groove Intermediate Heads, Scientific Anglers made Spey Lite Skagit Intermediate Heads/Integrated Lines. These heads/lines should be combined with various types of sinking tips... What is a diference between "standard sinking lines" (full sinker, sinking head or sinking tip) and these single hand micro/trout skagit heads? Are these skagit heads used just for swinging flies across and downstream in comparison to "standard sinking lines" which acording to this vidos should be used for fishing upstream with active retrieve? According what should I decided when to swing a fly downstream or when fish it upstream with active retrieve? I hope that these questions make sense...:) Cheers. Andrew.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching. Please send your questions directly to the shop via e-mail and they will be happy to help there.

[@richardbutts6512]

Awesome job Brian That helped alot to understand the difference in sinking tips , and full sinking tip. Thanks for all ya do!

[@Madriveroutfitters]

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[@springteen3743]

Great explanation with the drawing board and actual fishing footage, my problem with sinking lines is only the texture of the line they are too hard and thin in diameter, but my line is an old one, so my favorite fly line brand is airflo due to the soft texture of their lines I guess has to do that they are pvc free, so I just asking if airflo sinking lines are soft as their dry lines thanks. 🙏

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching. Feel free to contact the shop directly with any questions and they will be happy to help.

[@bradbeals1741]

I took one of your leader classes quite a few years ago that really helped us with our leaders and line selections. Glad things haven't changed much in your point of view. Lots of info here.. Great video. Whens your book coming out?.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching. You'll have to check with Brian directly on the book. Feel free to e-mail or call him.

[@jarodmore2836]

This video seems like it was made for me so chalk full of good information. I really like that shirt Brian is it Howler or Patagonia?

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching. You'd have to check with Brian on the shirt thing. Send him and e-mail at the shop and he'll be happy to answer.

[@craigwheaton2506]

Awesome stuff, I am just starting to fish streamers and this helps a ton, would anyone have an idea on the leader formula for a 6wt 200gr Airflo streamer Max Short line, i can get Maxima Ultragreen not Cortland locally ?

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching. Please contact Brian directly through the shop and he'll be happy to help. You can e-mail him or give him a call.

[@johnnylightning1491]

Would a stripping basket solve the problem of keeping a full sinking line out of the water if you are wade fishing? Inquiring minds want to know. About that talking too much, you have been hanging with Kelly, right? Keep the good stuff coming guys.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Please contact Brian directly at the shop and he'll be happy to help/answer your questions. Thanks.

[@normanmanning4872]

Hey Brian, Another great video. I have learned a lot from your site and videos from your entire team. I am new to fly fishing with less than 1 season under my belt and just a couple lessons. I am running a 5wt rod and real with 6 wt weight forward line (Airflo Ridge Bass/Muskie) fishing for bass primary with light streamers and crayfish flies. I am good at short distance casting but once i get past that tapered section ( 30 ish feet) it gets ugly am i asking too much from this set up or do i need to go back to school?? Any tips???

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching. Feel free to contact the shop directly if you have any specific questions. They are always happy to help.

[@justinstimpson8223]

What are your thoughts on saving those "9' store-bought tapered leaders" that have had enough and just using the first 4-5' of their but sections on the end of a sink-tip or sinking fly line? Thanks for the great videos!

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching. Please send your questions directly to Brian through the shop and he'll get to you there. You can send him an e-mail or give him a call. He doesn't come around here much at all but works there 7 days a week!!!

[@kristoferradzinsh4397]

Great video! Got a question on using a shorter leader for sinking lines. If I don't have the thick line to build a leader, can I just cut off the middle 4' of a 9' tapered leader to make it a 5' leader? Cutting it out from the middle should keep a thick butt section and the desired tippet size, or would that not work?

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching! Please send any and all questions over to Brian directly through the shop. Send him an e-mail or give him a call an he will be happy to help.

[@alanprettyman675]

Quick question....seems like you have a looong leader since we can see the end of the fly line in the rings, after you've cast, is there reason for that? Love the videos!

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Please send your questions over to the shop via e-mail or phone although he does explain the leaders here in this video. Thanks for watching.

[@Steve-sv3ln]

This is really helpful! Ty! If I may ask...what would be your choice of sinking line on Elk Creek, PA? Also, how long of a leader? Ty if you get time to reply. 🙂

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching. Please send your questions directly to the shop and they will be happy to help. Shoot them an email or give them a call.

[@danbolton3180]

Digging through my old fly gear I found a package of Twiston line lead. Have you ever used this product, and if so, how do you feel about it compared to split shot? I also found my 30 year old container of Muculin for my leaders If I remember, since my 30 year old Scientific Angler flyline still floats. This old line is great for casting practice, and it still floats well.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching. Please send you questions directly to Brian at the shop via e-mail or give him a call. He’ll be happy to help!!!!

[@paddyfromireland9277]

Another excellent video. One Question. If you have a 6 weight rod and let's say a buddy gave you a Kelly Galloup line for an 8 weight rod. Can it be cut back to match the 6 rod? Also would you then have a line that sinks faster than 6 line that matches rod?

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching. Please call or e-mail the shop with your questions and they will be happy to help.

[@raymondmichaellarkin6455]

Brilliant, when I use an intermediate line on the lake, its difficult to take the line off the surface like a floating line. I have to retrieve it once nearly to the end of the line and make a roll cast to start again. I am unsure if you mentioned this possible problem in describing the retrieve. Kind Regards-Ray

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching. This may help: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eYeugXhsmcmBfs0

[@charlesmurray1220]

Hey Brian and Crew: What line might you use fishing the salt bays of New York's Long Island with maybe say, Clouser Minnows?

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Feel free to contact the shop directly and they will be happy to help. They'll have a mess of questions for you so as to get the right recommendations.

[@kirkmarsh241]

Hello you’re talking about weeded fly line I’m very new five minutes never fished before we did fly line for streamers do I set up a whole Nother real or do I always have to takeoff my main line to change this what is the best application please help Kirk

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching. Please send your questions directly over to the shop via e-mail or give them a call and they will be happy to help. That's what they do!

[@rocmanruss]

Should we be adding a micro swivel to mid section to tie on tippet?

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching. Please send your questions directly to Brian at the shop and he'll be happy to help. You can e-mail him or give him a call.

[@mrpoopypants9586]

Ha! What timing. Got my first sinking head line yesterday. Great video, really helped explain a lot! Cheers from Australia PP

[@Madriveroutfitters]

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[@dirkvannieuwenhove]

I know a lot of pike fly fishing guys fish rivers with sinking lines and we all use stripping baskets exactly to avoid getting our lines snagged or tangled. I find it weird to see so few US anglers using stripping baskets. Do you know any particular reason as to why that is? Great instrumental video BTW 👌

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching. Please send your questions over to Brian at the shop via e-mail and he'll be happy to help/answer.

[@Thespanglerangler]

Howdy, friend.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Well Howdy! Thanks for being here.

[@W_Szymon]

I have other question regarding fly lines. I would like to ask what is causing that nowadays their prices has increased so drastically? I remember that few years ago high end fly line could be purchased for around 65-70 USD which was more acceptable. Now it is around 100 USD for good line which is slowly reaching the level of the absurd. No matter how good particular fly line is it is still only the piece of the plastic laundry string.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Please contact the shop directly with your questions and they will be happy to help. Thanks.

[@davetherkildsen8710]

Just wondering ...is there a reason you are not suggesting a fluorocarbon leader since it also sinks? And if a fluorocarbon leader should we use the same equation?

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Please send your questions over to Brian at the shop directly. You can e-mail or give him a call and he'll be happy to help.

[@torsadespointes]

How do sinking polyleaders fit into the leader discussion?

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching. Please send your questions over to Brian directly through the shop via e-mail or give him a call. He'll be happy to help and answer your questions.

[@johnkinsfather64]

Yes I don’t loop it on, I cut the loop and tie it on to the sink tip.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Always cut that loop!

[@shawndrag1009]

You have a different reel spool for all these different lines you say you use?

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Please send your questions directly to Brian at the shop via e-mail or give him a call. He'll be happy to answer/help. Thanks.

[@shaunfishes101]

I fish sink lines on still waters. I would fail to stop a fast sink dropping in the water with a steady retrieve. Only a fast retrieve will slow it. I can get a Di 2 to almost stop with a fast retrieve. Is there something wrong with my lines. They are Rio. Oh casting bigger distance might have something to do with it, as the line is in the water for a lot longer. And the whole sink section in water might be something to with it.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Feel free to contact the shop with questions. They are always happy to help.

[@alanprettyman675]

I get it now the sinking portion is translucent colored the floating section beige floats.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Thanks for watching.

[@mattingly1217]

So I noticed you were fishing the sinking line in a high current stream …… would a sinking line be nessary in say a pond setting?

[@mattingly1217]

I asked this too quick…. I just saw you say intermediate for lakes lol

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Feel free to call the shop with any further questions. Selecting the right line is a bit of a science and they will have a mess of questions for you so as to get it right.

[@mattingly1217]

@@Madriveroutfitters thank you

[@juanrasmussen5796]

Could you use this sink line technique for steelhead?

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Yes, we do!!!!

[@juanrasmussen5796]

@@Madriveroutfitters That is awesome. I have always wanted to try stripping sink line in for steelhead but I never tried it. Awesome video. I love the channel.

[@MrGatordave78]

What happens when a 7wt sink tip is used on a 5wt rod? How is casting effected?

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Please send your questions over to the shop and they will be happy to help/answer. Thanks.

[@N2theBlue1]

Surprised Brian uses mono (which floats) instead of fluoro (neutral or sinks) considering in his discussion one of his reasons for using short leaders is to keep the fly down

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Feel free to e-mail him or give him a call at the shop for further clarification. He'll be happy to help. Thanks.

[@tysonolsen6147]

I’m always worried that such a heavy streamer will hurt my rod. I have a streamer x so I know it shouldn’t. But should I be forward casting barely before it loads all the way to take pressure off the rod?

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Here you go: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eYeugXhsmcmBfs0

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Feel free to call or email the shop if any further questions and thanks for watching.

[@tysonolsen6147]

@@Madriveroutfitters thanks for all your help!

[@davidwolf7351]

Which line do you recommend for an 8wt fishing for stripers in 20-30' of water in a lake?

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Please send your questions over to the shop via e-mail or give them a call and they will be happy to help. Thanks.

[@ericami5642]

Strippers in a lake?

[@Acheron2010]

I love these videos, but they leave me frustrated. "Out of Stock" or not carried at all is my most frequent search result when attempting to purchase a Airflo Kelly Galloup Streamer Max Long Fly Line.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

We agree! Airflo can't seem to get them in the country. We have literally hundreds on order. Register on our website and you'll get a notification the moment they arrive. Thanks.

[@augustonthefly]

I would give equal credit to Bob Popovics. He is just as important to fly fishing as Kelly imo.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

We would agree, but not really relevant to this video?

[@tomj16601]

Why not just use split shot?

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Because the outcome is VERY different. Watch the video and you should understand. Let us know if you have any further questions.

[@bigron8346]

What about sinking poly leaders? Tom Rosenbaur swears by them.

[@Madriveroutfitters]

Those are leaders. This is an episode on the lines themselves. Feel free to contact Brian at the shop though if you have any questions. He's always happy to chat.

[@academicmailbox7798]

What does it accomplish. Well, bearing in mind what I mentioned. About the 'niche' application of some of these things (such as the 'diver' bass flies that Brian mentioned working better on intermediate sinking tip lines). You're still very much fishing with. A full floating line. And most of the behavior of the line and fly on the end. Is dominated by the behavior of it. As a full floating line. You have to aware of what you can do, or can't do. Using a full floating line. It's a line that everyone should be familiar with. Because it's versatile in lots of ways. What the poly leader attachments to at the end (even the 'ten foot' sinking poly leaders). What they do is they modify slightly. How the whole thing casts, and how it operates in the water. Not very dramatically. But in subtle ways. That the angler can make use of.

[@academicmailbox7798]

If you're river was fast and wide for example. You might select a 'fat' type of nine or ten weight full floating line. To have the comfort. To be able to cast or shoot line at distance. All day long. Kelly Galloup for example talks. About with his 'full sinking' type lines. When the White River in Arkansas is high up in terms of water level (in practical terms, there is more river to cover). Kelly will have an eight weight fly rod and line. Just for that occasion. He's stepping up a gear. To match the size of the river. When it's swolen. However, if that is not the case. Kelly will quickly modify his tackle. To stay down at seven weight, or even go down to six weight. For lower water still. Sometimes though anglers in wide rivers, with fast water (due to higher gradient). And when the water has a lot of flow in it from rainfall. You might find those nine and ten weight 'full floating' lines are acceptable (it's a totally different experience throwing a full floating line, as opposed to full sinking). An eight weight full sinking, might be like throwing a ten weight full floating.

[@academicmailbox7798]

What tends to happen with poly leader sinking tips. Is you can add them to the end. Of a larger diameter full floating fly line. And what happens is. When you're river speed is too fast. That poly leader attachment at the end. Will contribute to slowing down the speed at which the fly moves (because a fatter, large diameter 'full floating' line is going to get caught by water current). And it will impart a lot of un-wanted downstream pull on your flies often (which results in those flies getting dragged up to the surface too). So looking at Brian's Story about the bass in the Amazon river. That was the problem there too. The guy added the nine foot tapered leader. To the end of his full sinking line. And the fly he was fishing (some of the streamers can have a lot of buoyancy on their own). And they streamer flies will move back up to the surface. If there is not something to hold them at a lower level.

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It is the same. The exact same in fishing fast rivers, that have width to them. You're powerful, large diameter full floating line is nice. It enables you to get the fly 'out there'. But then it creates a problem. Of where the water current grabs the floating line. And does way too much to it. A poly leader attached to the front of the floating line. Occasionally can do just enough. To negate the impact of that fast current. On a larger diameter full floating line. And it's similar to what Brian said about the intermediate sinking tip lines. That 'three feet' of intermediate at the front. Just does something remarkable. To the effectiveness. Of how the popping flies 'pop' in the water (popping flies 'push' some water in front of them). So they have to dig into the surface of the water. And create a kind of 'wave' in front of them. You need to add just a little bit of added line density. At the end of the line. And it works better. It's the same with poly leaders sometimes. And full floating lines. It gives a normal 'wet fly' (swinging wet flies, single hook etc). Just a little bit of capability. To find their depth, and their speed. In a wet fly swing. Enough that the fish can see it.

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My phone exploded and the lights in my house went out as soon as Brian and Kelly were in the same frame. Simply too much.

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Thanks for watching!

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