Thank you for this. Using a WS2 to launch is the coolest thing Raven can pull off, and I see you do it all the time while crouch dashing.
@ciscorey65204 ай бұрын
WS2 launch is especially satisfying after teleport parry. Anytime it lands you feel like a legit god.
@user-iq9ri6hy4x4 ай бұрын
thats a proper guide, ravenelectriced 5 kazuyas after watching
@imortalXsoul4 ай бұрын
LMAO
@mikelowe15774 ай бұрын
Love your guides on Raven man. He's my main because not too many ppl play him and you are killing it with the content. Thank you!
@bloodhit14 ай бұрын
Saying WS stands for "While Standing (Up)" clears a lot of confusion for new players.
@imortalXsoul4 ай бұрын
^
@feeharn55314 ай бұрын
Yup! While it's referred to as While Rising in-game, we don't want it to clash with While Running for input notations.
@similaritiesendhere4 ай бұрын
New players might confuse "standing" with recovering from knockdown. Off the top of my head, I can' think of any non-Namco games that use the input.
@imortalXsoul4 ай бұрын
@@similaritiesendhere well, you can actually wake up in a while rising state from a knockdown as well but i see what you mean
@similaritiesendhere4 ай бұрын
@@imortalXsoul Also, I come from a Mishima background where instead of just timing a button press for the first frame of (ws), you input back + button after a crouch dash to ensure crouch dash moves don't come out. Certain universal mechanics like back dash cancel and instant while rising require different considerations for different characters if they have character specific mechanics that might interfere. For example, characters with a sway require clean KBD inputs to keep from accidentally swaying while back dashing.
@drunkenbarfight4 ай бұрын
Bro thank you for linking this, I finally got on practice and was able to wavedash and instant ws. Thank you so much man, your videos are amazing!
@jefforta47174 ай бұрын
Good tip if you’re struggling with the timing for the neutral to get WS is you can go from crouch to back 1 and WS 1 will come out.
@sefflikejeff19174 ай бұрын
I've been practicing this on my own recently, but this will help with consistency. Thanks for the upload
@w_smith_19904 ай бұрын
Thanks for the well standing guide
@imortalXsoul4 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching :D
@ciscorey65204 ай бұрын
Solid video, as always. I've been adding a crouch dash to my iWS motion; i.e.: d (hold), df, df. On leverless this is really easy to execute and it seemingly alters the release-to-neutral window. I know the additional crouch dash extends the travel distance, I just can't verify whether or not it gets me to active frames any faster than normal iWS.
@JiwanChung4 ай бұрын
you can also make instant standing move by pressing both back and forward simultaneously while still holding down button, due to socd. so that could also be helpful for ppl not familiar with releasing buttons to make while standing moves.
@imortalXsoul4 ай бұрын
this requires SOCD though and only applies to leverless on a practical level but you’re right, i did a video about this a while back in T7
@fancysinigang_tk4 ай бұрын
Great Raven guide as always man!
@imortalXsoul4 ай бұрын
thanks bro!
@SaiyanAndre4 ай бұрын
I appreciate this video. I use Pad, and where I struggle is the pressing of Down Forward without the game thinking i've hit forward at the end of it. In the end the way thats easier for me is to literally push down and then move my thumb to the very right of the Down button so it registers a down-forward. Probably an issue unique to my pad, ah well. Thanks either way!
@kevincruz79584 ай бұрын
This is very useful. I'll be revisiting this video.
@Ko4_tk4 ай бұрын
as a Mixbox player i always use D DF B2 and it works. i think i learned it from you
@TheDiggus4 ай бұрын
Linking this to a friend right away, we had this topic a couple of days ago 👍
@imortalXsoul4 ай бұрын
👌🏽👌🏽
@sean_image4 ай бұрын
Great guides. Keep up the good work 👍🏿
@imortalXsoul4 ай бұрын
ty!
@siyoiii77094 ай бұрын
As a new Raven player, I've watched all of your guides and they're super helpful, so thank you 😊 But as an intermediate - high intermediate player, I was wondering if you were planning on doing any videos on layering Raven's offense. He has so many stance transitions and moves from stances that it's hard for me to keep track of what the opponent is doing when I don't really know what I'm doing lol. I think for BT stance it's a bit easier to do basic layers (like 4,1 punish -> f4,1 if they don't duck, or f2,4 if they do duck. db2 into nothing, then db2 into buttons later when they mash), but I find it hard to know what to do with Soul Zone transitions (BT 2,2 -> SZ, B1 -> SZ, etc.) Obviously the intermediate/more technical videos don't do as well for views as general guides do, so I understand if you don't plan on doing it. Thank you though
@imortalXsoul4 ай бұрын
Most of them are intermediate and above tbh, the options are there and shown, it’s up to you to use them for conditioning. You can’t copy what i’m doing on players that perhaps don’t understand the mix/mindgame. That’s why trying to copy high level players doesn’t work in Tekken for the most part, because the layering and mind games will be different depending on the skill level of the pool of players if that makes sense
@imortalXsoul4 ай бұрын
But to answer your question, yes i have noted layered offence down as an idea for Raven 101 😀
@siyoiii77094 ай бұрын
@@imortalXsoul Sorry yeah I didnt mean to make it sound like I wanted to copy certain sequences it's more that I dont have a good understanding yet about which options are good under certain scenarios. Which now that i think about it more, it comes with time and learning which of Ravens moves have which kinds of properties, their startup frames, evasion, etc., along with character knowledge and picking up opponents habits i.e. -> "this string into this stance is good for when your opponent is doing this kind of retaliation" and "this string from this stance is good if your opponent is doing this of retaliation" stuff like that is kind of what I have trouble with now since theres just so much stuff you can do with him lol appreciate the reply
@imortalXsoul4 ай бұрын
@@siyoiii7709 yeah it’s more about experimenting with condition tools, something that works for you might not work for others etc
@daeroldlancien11184 ай бұрын
THANKS A LOT I MASTERED IT ❤❤❤
@imortalXsoul4 ай бұрын
nice
@Ofeewentworth4 ай бұрын
Beautiful 🎉
@EricSamaNYC4 ай бұрын
I think it would be very much appreciated if you could do a series that covers “how to beat ___ as Raven”, a lot of people want content like that but there’s hardly any videos like that
@imortalXsoul4 ай бұрын
I think the reason there are no videos like that yet is because hardly anyone knows a matchup fully, so it’s hard to do an anti character
@EricSamaNYC4 ай бұрын
@@imortalXsoul totally fair, maybe collabing with some EU players à la King Jae tutorial style, but have them “expose” basic gimmicks/punishes lower level players aren’t exploiting. Just some ideas in the air.
@oolongpantsu34374 ай бұрын
Is there a way to trick the system so i dont have to hold down for a couple of frames in order to access Ravens full crouch lows? Feng can instantly do it from standing just by pressing d df for example.
@imortalXsoul4 ай бұрын
No, they didn’t give Raven that ability and I don’t know why
@Darksid3c34 ай бұрын
You should edit and add this to your Raven 101 playlist , don't get me wrong i just know how lazy people are ❤
@TheMammonoth4 ай бұрын
Thank you !
@zimy08124 ай бұрын
Yo thank you! I couldn't really figure out why I kept getting QCF moves instead of while rising.
@imortalXsoul4 ай бұрын
yeah it can be tricky depending on what you’re using for sure
@feeharn55314 ай бұрын
The main thing about getting a WS from a dash is to not have a forward input, and instead have a neutral in its place. I used to use Feng before t8 and man, his WS1 has some fucked up range when combined with his forward sway.
@VictorIFKofIFKof4 ай бұрын
New vídeo yay yay
@imortalXsoul4 ай бұрын
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@xhelios38204 ай бұрын
I have a very big question on this, only characters with some type of wavedash is the only ones who can do the iWS, or the rest of the cast can do it too? Because with characters who has normal movementes i cant do it...
@imortalXsoul4 ай бұрын
crouch dash only
@ladrellhart20634 ай бұрын
Imortal I'm having a problem lol. This is a great video, by the way. But my problem is it's gotten to the point where I have to throw the chicken sink at this guy's to win If don't I'll lose. I can space them out with the kbd and the backflip but Im finding myself having to attack way more than I used to. During your fights as Raven you seem to always be in control of the pacing of the match. Any tips?
@imortalXsoul4 ай бұрын
Tekken 8 bro 😂😂😂
@kenanisrael93234 ай бұрын
Can you make a video on how to do Korean backdash please
@imortalXsoul4 ай бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/hIGrkJyAhrSci80si=WTwC80XBMYBescUV i did one it’s just not on my channel
@Magicdust26014 ай бұрын
what controller is that? it looks good
@imortalXsoul4 ай бұрын
you need to specify which one, they’re all controllers 💀
@Magicdust26014 ай бұрын
LOL SORRY, was referring to the playstation controller.
@imortalXsoul4 ай бұрын
DS5 customised with retro colours
@VarsityAthlete044 ай бұрын
Did you ever think about picking up Bryan?
@imortalXsoul4 ай бұрын
i did dabble in 7 but he feels slow in 8 so no 💀
@Flamesaph4 ай бұрын
bro i can literally delay the move and it ends up doing D,DF+4/2/1 rather than a WS+2/whichever. no idea why, lol
@imortalXsoul4 ай бұрын
you’re pressing forward that’s why
@BryanKo3 ай бұрын
Where did u get your fight stick case for lever
@imortalXsoul3 ай бұрын
Eternal Rival
@BryanKo3 ай бұрын
@@imortalXsoul bro all I did was ask what case your using no need to call me your eternal rival😔
@jordansebert112 ай бұрын
Dude i keep fetting cd 2 low everytime even if i delay it or do it fast. geting the crouch dash is easy but how do do you get the ws 2 input wtf😢😢😢
@imortalXsoul2 ай бұрын
you're getting CD2 because you are pressing forward. It's D, DF N 2. Make sure you return to neutral and DON'T PRESS forward
@matthewhall34 ай бұрын
I can never master the crouch dash. I’m getting better but it’s going tekken 6 since I picked up Raven and still have difficulty
@feeharn55314 ай бұрын
For dualshock and dualsense controllers, there's like a kind of sweet spot on the dpad where you push down on the down button and it sort of rolls into down-forward, and back to down when you release it. I think my tip would be focusing a lot more on the down button of the dpad, avoiding the right button almost entirely (or left depending on which side you're on in-game). After you get comfortable with your thumb placement to get that spot on the dpad consistently, it's just a matter of rhythm to get a cleaner wavedash. I hope this helps!
@matthewhall34 ай бұрын
@@feeharn5531 dude… bro I did it with no problem now and completely mastered it in one night it totally helped thanks !
@dannyboy20054 ай бұрын
@@feeharn5531 you are my savior dawg
@finnz77864 ай бұрын
Hard to do it on controller from the right
@imortalXsoul4 ай бұрын
it can be at first. Practice makes perfect 🫣
@finnz77863 ай бұрын
Xbox controller is rough cus the dpad is hmmm....connected i think a ps comtroller would be better@@imortalXsoul