The Ultimate Messmer's Spear of the Impaler Build Guide - Elden Ring SotE (No Spoilers!)

The Best Spear of the Impaler Build backed up with math for Shadow of the Erdtree DLC. Rather than the easy thematic guide, this build comes with a twist to truly utilize the skill: Messmer's Assault. This guide contains additional information on unique moveset and suggestions for alternatives. #eldenring #艾爾登法環
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0:00 Spear of the Impaler's Unique Aspects
2:51 Why Not Typical Messmer Build
6:42 Finding an Opportunity
8:19 Which other Greatspear?
10:00 Stat Distribution
8:36 Talismans
10:58 Armor
11:29 Talismans
13:23 Crystal Tear
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[@juliushill1370]

Bro the slight echo on your voice makes it feel like an omnipresent god is speaking to me lmao.

[@Chrightt]

🤣 Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

[@juliushill1370]

@@Chrightt I'd say a good thing.

[@HaunchoJackHD]

God himself explaining how to get good

[@Popmycherryyo]

@@Chrightt yes

[@reynaldocarrasco2545]

God explaining patch notes to you with a booming voice lmao

[@jamiekb9v]

exactly what I was waiting for

[@rollinallonce]

I was waiting for you :)

[@IlConteSky]

Yo, Jamie the TC goat from Genshin follows Chrightt the TC goat of ER Truly the most ambitious crossover of all time

[@jamiekb9v]

@@IlConteSky thanks! and yea Ive watched chrightts content for ages

[@simplygtz6511]

Your MV sheet has totally shaped the way I plan/play my builds. Thanks for all the time you put into these videos!

[@Marx_D._Soul]

Will say, out of the Messmerflame incantations Fire Serpent is the clear winner. The range is poor, but I've never had that thing miss *once* (excluding i-frames). Orb would be a high B tier if it had any form of hyper-armor (but it doesn't), and Rain of Fire is (*hopefully*) bugged.

[@michaelbowman6684]

Fire Serpent is amazing in PvP at the bare minimum, all you need is Fire Serpent and Catch Flame and you have an amazing set of tools for pressuring your opponent. Throw out a Fire Serpent or two while approaching your target then chase them down with running Catch Flames, they _need_ to roll to avoid the Fire Serpent as it can't be strafed, and the delay makes it a wonderful frame trapping tool similar to Magic Glintblade which grants you a perfect opportunity to catch their roll with, well, Catch Flame, they can't dodge both if timed properly. Even perfect roll discipline won't help in this situation, they'll need something like Bloodhound Step for extra distance and i-frames to reliably escape, or a very unstable connection.

[@khajiitimanus7432]

Honestly, it's easier to list the DLC incantations which are alright, than the ones which suck. Like, 90% of the DLC incantations genuinely hit for basically no damage, have too long of a delay, or lack poise. On top of that, most have absurdly higher stat requirements than they ever should. Like, as it is currently, if Rain of Fire doesn't get a colossal damage buff, the stat requirement should be lowered to 8 Faith. That sounds extreme, but each fire blast does damage equal to a barehanded punch. If they want these spells to be garbage, at least stat the requirements like they're garbage.

[@EinSilverRose]

I've had Rain of Fire simply not spawn the cloud. It's a really good spell if you just feel like wasting fp for nothing.

[@dumbsterdives]

Its unfortunately very likely that Rain of Fire is bad on pyrpose, because its just Founding Rain 2 and that spell sucks ass too

[@michaelbowman6684]

@@dumbsterdives It's actually worse than Founding Rain of Stars is basically every way, the motion values of Rain of Fire are way lower (ona full charge, 54 for FRoS vs 38 for RoF) and Int has Lusat's Glintstone Staff with it's sorcery scaling of 413 at 80 Int, whereas a single Fire Knight's Seal at 80 Faith only has an effective incantation scaling of ~383, you'd need to hold a second one in your other hand to have better scaling than Lusat's. And it's Fire damage, meaning it'll do even less while in the rain and/or while standing in water. Also, it takes longer to cast than Founding Rain of Stars if you want to use the uncharged version, which at least shares it's "quick casting animation" with other generic sorceries like Magic Glintblade or Starlight, whereas RoF for some reason uses the very slow and clunky "Fire Storm" casting animation, even though it doesn't even really make much sense for you to slam fire into the ground to make smoke clouds in the sky, really should have been something like waving both arms around while smoke spews from them, perhaps taking inspiration for the animation of Uplifting Aromatic? Yeah, there are a lot of problems with Rain of Fire.

[@LucDeTruc]

Chrightt once again with the math-backed builds, gotta love it

[@TheMrTumbs]

No bugcat in the video nor thumbnail? 😢

[@Chrightt]

Note taken 😔

[@ghastlyanarchy1720]

Truly the end times are upon us

[@Audiodump]

Why do they hate smithscript so much? They created this whole new kind of weapon class and then made its unique aspect hit like a wet noodle.

[@lharsay]

Ranged attacks with high poise damage are the most broken things possible in the game. Btw. smithscript weapons were apparently much stronger on the review version, they nerfed the reach hard on release, and also prevented the use of buffs like Royal Knight's Resolve.

[@ShjadeNexayre]

@@lharsay Yeah, I really enjoyed messing around with the Smithscript Dagger despite recognizing its weakness, and it was pretty clear if it was much stronger in any respect-range, raw damage, poise damage, status buildup-it would very quickly border on overpowered. The only thing I really wanted them to improve was accuracy, particularly the grounded R2 being so buckwild off-target, but buffing anything else I thought might break it. xD

[@eddieddieeddie]

​@@lharsaythough I feel like it should at least be just as capable as glintstone pebbles but nooo it's gotta cost 60% of my stamina bar and stay still for a few seconds for the power of an m1 attack

[@rickchamp1725]

bleed spears with spectral lance are still better than any of these throwing weapons

[@ShjadeNexayre]

@@rickchamp1725 It's definitely better at some things. Raw damage output, almost certainly. Can you kite with that, though? You have to plant your feet and chuck it. If you could be jumping backwards and throw the spectral lance in the air, it'd for sure be better all around.

[@tundranocaps]

I think the way spears are supposed to get over the hurdle of poise damage is being pierce damage so they get extra damage and poise damage while counter-attacking, and guard-countering with a shield, which goes well with them since you can attack while blocking with a shield, unlike with great hammers. So it takes longer to get there, but is safer.

[@Chrightt]

Counter damage only works with physical attack. Messmer's Spear is more Fire than Physical so you don't get much out of counterattacking. Also, its guard counter is nothing to write home about, so I much prefer being aggressive with its powerstance attacks.

[@nuggetpolice9116]

Chrighhht has read my mind once again. Literally started a build for this today and beat messmer 5 min ago… now I see this. Life is good

[@Edsabre]

Another great video! Man, I really hope they buff the rain of fire spell, because it's so bad it has to be a bug. It can't even kill the basic shadow guys in the dlc.

[@Double512]

Awesome info! I wonder if you'd be interested in looking at the revised Quality scaling that came with the DLC patches also, I gave it a cursory look on a dex build and it seemed to out-do Keen when I had just a few points in strength, at least on the Dueling Shield. Could be that swords and the like will now be stronger on quality than keen or heavy.

[@lionheart4424]

On my testing Keen still outperforms if you have twice the DEX investment of STR, but it seems to scale better than before.

[@ghoulbuster1]

After level 200 quality starts to outperform keen

[@MoonMannPlus]

At level 200 you are running a very similar build to what I am for Messmer's spear. I opted not to powerstance however and focused on using the spear as a ranged, FP-less attack that can soften opponents health bars as they approach or knock flying enemies out of the sky. The Axe talisman also seemed to buff the throwing spear attacks, but I could be mistaken. The first swing of the ash of war has a stun effect on most enemies allowing the combo to fully land more often than not while the actual movement of the ash of war can enable you to either dodge some attacks through jank or poise right through them. I very much liked running shard of alexander for the build if I'm focusing on only the ash of war but also the flame boosting tear for extra damage on the ash of war. Speaking strictly for PVE, Pest's thread spears was an unrivaled addition to a FTH build's arsenal as it's damage just cannot be matched when used on larger opponents, so I used the Erd tree's seal in my off hand, the Godfrey Icon (interchangeable with alexander's shard based on the situation) and Flock's canvas talisman for spell damage, and Dragon's great shield talisman and the crimson seed +1 talisman. The build as a whole doesn't bolster the actual spear a whole lot, but I think it has enough use as a mid-range poking tool and ash of war beating stick to safely compliment a FTH build with specialized spells for whatever you find yourself fighting. Digressing, was there an issue with power stancing two Messmer's spears? I feel like you would get more damage out of just physical and fire damage for the powerstanced attacks than three-way split damage with the barbed staff-spear.

[@gunnarschlichting9886]

Powerstancing two Messmer's spears would require NG+. Even if you duplicate a Remembrance, you can only get each option for it once per NG cycle.

[@GiomDe]

I like your videos bc they're so info dense, and his spear is my fav in the dlc. since im more pvp focused I wish you had mentioned stats on the pushback effect on the first WA spin

[@KutsuuG]

Using a shield and/or deflect tear to go for guard counters when using it 1h or 2h is pretty viable to do poise damage. It gets the regular greatspear guard counter.

[@JPJonesBSc]

Not sure this is of interest but, you can change the AOW for the obsidian lamina by equipping an infusible scythe in off had and using its AOE by 2 handing it. The follow up on OL dynastic sickle play will change to spinning slash.

[@CrimsonSpikeFlash]

ur amazing! i really need a math build on leda’s sword its one of my favs!!

[@andydouble07]

i tried a similar build but with vykes in the offhand, it also worked pretty well while being somewhat thematically appropriate

[@BelleOrchestre]

Thanks for the breakdown, this is so helpful. It's a bit niche, but I'd love to see advice on other dex/faith weapons as well. Elden Ring is so heavy on Str/Fth but I want to make Dex/Fth work if I can.

[@Ignawesome]

Pretty useful, I think this build is the most similar to mine from the ones you made. I still haven't beat Messmer but I wield two scythes with faith and fire skills

[@chev3107]

Can you make a video on how parries work after 1.12? Frame data explorer is really hard to read for parries

[@SurayaWasTaken]

Excellent video as always! Do you intend to make another PVE Frenzied Flame build video? I really hope so it was my favourite build to play before the DLC and I would love to see a new take on it with all the additional items and equipment! Super looking forward to it if you do decide to make one!

[@lifeward21]

Love your armored core videos

[@monsieurdorgat6864]

Now that I am at the final boss I can finally start watching these! Because other weapons are spoilers too.

[@flyingby3703]

Thank you for the lvl 200 stat distribution, I like doing coop at that level so the usual 150 and 125 stat distributions arent as useful for me as the 200.

[@simonappel2599]

You can stack the two headed turtle with the greenburst tear and the great turtle shell shield offhand/on back and the stamina regen goes crazy! It feels like it refils as you're using it then refils immediately when not

[@gabrielamaro1470]

Would you do a video on the 3 dlc transformations? I’d love your take on whether the damage is worth the complete lack of poise

[@Dragostorm21]

Dragonmaw infinite hyperarmor go brrrr

[@Dreamagus]

U the true flagship boss homie ❤

[@zacharyd5261]

Personally I think vykes war spear is a great option to power stance with spear of the impaler as you get to higher levels where you’ll have more Dex and 18 str requirement.

[@kamarwashington]

Milady build/breakdown next pls

[@user-os4vs4gq9r]

I love this weapon so much. You didn’t mention it’s heavy jumping attack for breaking posture

[@Joe_Silly]

i know you are focusing on new weapons and stuff rn, but i would love a Godslayer Greatsword video at some point since they finally fixed the bugged weapon art poise. Such a cool weapon, moveset and weapon art

[@Angels-Haven]

man I love this channel, this is what I'm here for

[@Miazger]

As always full of knowledge and numbers, great work Would be nice if you did a scientific shield build for easy Radahn fight Or something about staff of great beyond does having hibrid casting benefit you in some way Perhaps quality int faith build with leda's sword and cold Milady I played my first SOTE playthrough with kinda 4 split quality build 20/20/30/30 staff of great beyond and cold milady

[@Brendonherring522]

The throw has some utility and I want to shy away from calling a spade a spade insofar as calling it a gimmick goes- but I would love a sweeping attack on this thing that isn't the weapon art! Maybe too much to ask tho

[@michalnowacki1489]

From my testing, the Fire Coil seems like the best Messmer Flame "incant" despite being a consumable, have fun farming embers though

[@matchanavi]

Could you do the Death Knight's Longhaft Axe next? I keep hearing mixed info. about its Lightning scaling.

[@thequestionwhy3827]

patiently waiting for the martial arts breakdown

[@ChrissW528]

Loved your Rellana build, any chance we could get a Star Lined Sword build from you? I love the weapon art but the 2/3 physical/Int split leaves me conflicted on how to best build it

[@magicalgirl1296]

My concern with powerstanced greatspears is that they look goofy actually. But to be fair, the video is about optimization, not fashion.

[@Sierra_Vice]

Hey, can you make a video on how to build Hand-to-Hand builds? I only have a bleed build and I think, there may be other good ways to build around them.

[@nulls5408]

I use this with the normal beast claws with bleed infusion. Would recommend leda’s chest piece, laceration tailsman, briar gauntlets since they proc while moving around during both of the weapons attacks, divine bird legs for stomping aow’s and/or fashion, two hand tailsman, throwing tailsman & horseback tailsmans while using torrent, and if you want alternative headgear for beast claws go for white mask or divine beast head/helm for fashion.

[@jashin888]

None of this makes any sense lol

[@gabrielokeefe3695]

hello chrightt thank you for the breakdowns very helpful! but could you also link the weapon AR calculator you use/show in your vids please? thanks!👍

[@Uselesslink]

I power stance with vyke’s spear which also benefits from the flame damage buffs

[@MiguelAngelGutierrezRamirez]

Hey Chrightt, any chance of an updated Talisman Tier List? I'd like to know how exactly the new Talismans work. The numbers.

[@dr.bright2446]

Good video

[@Cibohos]

please look at maximising the block tear build, I wonder whats the best weapon for guard countering is based on animation speed and stat buildups, oh btw, you might want to have a look at the fire knight sword, as you can infuse it with frost and it still keeps its fire damage, letting you reset frost every time

[@camerontripp1546]

If you're going to run claw talisman you might as well add the raptor feather chest piece.

[@G59Everlast]

can you do a vid about the milady? i think its going to be a standard fromsoft weapon like the claymore for years to come i love it

[@robrobson8200]

Hey man, any chance you'd do a sword of light / dark build? Ive been attempting to make a sword and shield type build with them, but cant quite get the scaling right.

[@Sheep342]

would you do another frenzied flame build with the DLC weapons as an update to the other one you did a year ago?

[@MG-lc5tv]

Great vid. Playing duel spear is not hooking me as interesting, but was informative nonetheless.

[@contematt1113]

Can you make a guide like you you used too for the light greatswords? Please 🙏 😢

[@zephn2245]

It might be MP inefficient but I found some success just skipping the final sequence of the ash every time because after the triple slash you regain control of your character pretty quickly but the recovery time before you can roll or start a new skill sequence after finishing the spear graveyard is brutal. It seemed efficient from the perspective of damage per time spent because you can rapidly chain sequences 1 and 2 quickly but the recovery time after the final sequence hits the enemy is very long.

[@silverbolt6699]

Small request for a black hammer/shield optimization video Chrighttsama. Or the actual numbers for Deflect Tear. Time till perfect deflect, does the first deflect keep stacking the buff to 80% guard counter dmg if youre just holding, dmg and stanina negation amount per weapon/shield types.

[@Chrightt]

Okay, someone requested a crystal tear video so I will make Deflect Tear effect clear over there. It's pretty complicated but it does not stack like Youwy suggests (I believe I got the right person who made the video? Other people have asked similar questions about that crystal tear tier list which is kinda all over the place).

[@PoisonSwampRS]

Anime moveset reminds me of the Abyss Watcher's greatsword from DS3!

[@the_infinexos]

-take Messmer's spear -change name to Vlad -now Vlad the Impaler -turn the Lands Between into Wallachia -profit

[@JISHBOSIN]

Could you do a video on One of the Great Katanas? I love all 3 of them, but a proper build for the Rakshasa one would be helpful.

[@Brendonherring522]

Would be awesome, esp considering that the Rakshasha has unique poise that can allow it to go toe to toe with Greatswords. I'd also love to see just a great katana breakdown that shows building the various ones (esp the Great Katana itself) for different builds (int-based, dex/lightning, arcane/bleed etc.)

[@JISHBOSIN]

@@Brendonherring522 yeah! Rakshasha blade is super unique and would love to see it broken down more!

[@SyntheticShinobi]

I realize it isn’t optimal but my favorite way to use it is with the smithscript talisman and the axe talisman. It’s a bit absurd that it takes most of your stamina though.

[@YourDevastator]

Yesss thank you for making this!

[@yarro7428]

Very insightful! I've been struggling to optimize a dragon communion build, but I can't find a decent weapon. The closest I can get is giant hunt or spectral lance on a short spear, bleed infusion is available (and likely optimal) for both, but occult is more on theme. Only downside is no dragonwound grease, since neither infusion is buffable. And you can't sell me on that abomination from the dlc, that thing is specifically designed for a dragon cult/communion hybrid build.

[@bryanthomas1382]

What, the Flowerstone Gavel? Trust me, it's incredible on an arcane build, the ash hits for 2k damage.

[@spiritwolf963]

Any thoughts on the Rakshasa armor set? Is the increased damage taken too much to justify the bonus you think?

[@kyplys3695]

Could you do euporia? I love the weapon so much but i feel like its lacking

[@tangledfish]

Any plans to do a deep dive into Poleblade Of The Bud? I feel like it's getting slept on because of the lack of hyper armour on the ash of war, which is a shame because it's a remarkably fun weapon.

[@Chrightt]

This weapon will probably wait until the first balance patch as I've got things lined up and they probably forgot a lot of hyper armor on flying skills rather than intentionally leaving hyper armor out.

[@Avis95]

Love your build videos ❤, any chance i could ask for an scarlet rot/poison build that doesnt rely entirely on dragon spells :)?

[@Chrightt]

You're in luck. Coming soon.

[@prodbyANT]

Brother do you have anything on the Great Katana? No one else that I can find has any builds out for it yet.

[@GrieveIV]

Kinda unfortunate how these throwing attacks are implemented. Would you trade heavy attacks, and all the poise damage that could come with it, for a low range poise damageless projectile poke? The one up side is not costing fp

[@dennismadrid5146]

They should had given it the same damage and poise damage if used up close but weakens a lot the further it travels (up to the what we have right now)

[@GrieveIV]

@@dennismadrid5146 I don’t think these attacks even land up close

[@Mr._Popo]

What about Vyke's War Spear for powerstancing? It's also a dex/fai great spear that does split phys/fire damage. i think it had similar scaling to this spear but I might be wrong on that

[@Xaiderach]

excellent work as always, are you going to revise all the ''best weapon of this category'' videos by adding the dlc weappons?

[@Chrightt]

Yes, I will.

[@kevinhadj82]

Treespear can be buffed though. Does that not make up the few damage difference with the barbed?

[@Charlie-qk3gt]

I know not everything can be pvp viable, but do you plan on building around the Lamenter Omen transformation? All I can think of is an ironjar, endure, bleed trade build using the arcane bonus, unless the headbutt from the Lamenter Mask has a niche.

[@Chrightt]

For 8 points in arcane it really isn't worth not wearing armor. Rock Heart/Priestess Hearts are way better.

[@DeFeat01]

Very nice video. Much love. However, is it my hallucination or the Omen's HP did not reduce properly at 2:55-2:56? Is this a bug in the skill?

[@fishnutz5196]

I perfer using the AoW for the first flame aow and not the whole combo. Save the whole combo for massive openings or npcs

[@subject8776]

A breakdown of the Black Steel Greathammer could be cool, I think it's description caused misunderstandings. "Blessed with an Erdtree incantation. Further holy imbuement will amplify the effect and greatly increase the armament's power." Some say that sacred infusions are even better, others that Sacred Blade is stronger on this weapon and I say that it just means that the holy damage that is already there gets stronger. From my testing, it seems that sacred infusions increase the holy burst damage of the guard counter.

[@moistsuprise7827]

I tried so hard to make a thematic build but focusing on faith for the AOW and then using incantations left me with a great spear with its slow moveset and horrible damage, I hadn't thought of powerstancing with a faith scaling weapon

[@leonardo9259]

Great spears are great wtf, well at least for pvp

[@nxvh9062]

or maybe just go past level 150 and have actual decent stats

[@leonardo9259]

@@nxvh9062 "this weapon is great bro you just need 99 in each stat" Maybe the weapon is sht

[@dennismadrid5146]

@@nxvh9062honestly your going to overlevel, it’s not more of a build but more of having eveything. High NG+ cycles do require this to compensate on the damage you take but base game or low Ng+ is over kill and can ruin the game for some

[@buckyhurdle4776]

@@nxvh9062 60 to 99 in a damage stat is not a significant increase. If a weapon doesn't have good damage at 60, it doesn't have good damage.

[@aaz1010]

can you make one on the greatsword of damnation?

[@RicAdbur]

I don't understand why they're so afraid to let the smithscript weapons throws be good. There's already so many other stronger ranged attacks in the game.

[@ShjadeNexayre]

Stronger, sure. Free and infinite? I dunno.

[@carlosh9476]

Fair enough

[@Xiu83]

Those stripped of, those stripped of, those stripped of the Grace of Gold shall all meet Death... In the Embrace of Messmer flame. :V

[@lharsay]

Note: the Sacred Order skill of the Treespear would actually pair well because it grants a 10% (2.5% in PvP) damage buff to both weapons.

[@user-ch5og5oo3f]

Great stuff - as always.

[@TatteredBeanie]

I was curious to see if vykes spear was worth it at all. Used it for my very first play through so I’ve got an affinity for it.

[@Chrightt]

Unfortunately, not even close to the other options.

[@unknowndummy9387]

Crightt can you do one for the end boss weapons? I wonder if the beams of light scale with int or have no scaling at all. I didn’t mention the name since it could spoil the boss for some people

[@Chrightt]

Not 100% sure on this one but I think the light portion might not scale at all (except to weapon upgrade level). Need to wait until I get the MV for the weapon art though.

[@unknowndummy9387]

@@Chrightt Thank you so much for the reply, so I guess this weapon is basically just a physical weapon with a little bonus holy and magic dmg on weapon arts and regular attacks respectively.

[@bro244]

how different would a build optimized for the godslayer’s greatsword be to this one? i’m interested in using both of them in a run.

[@Chrightt]

I think you can work with Godslayer and Messmer's. They both go for dex/faith to some extent though I don't use Godslayer's weapon art nearly as much which means dex investment is better for the sword.

[@stackedbowlz7387]

is the sheet you use for damage calculations public?

[@WeeziMonkey]

Having dual fire weapons (Flame art Messmer Soldier's spear) would allow you to buff both with the fire tear, oil tear and flame grant me strength. Don't need the stamina tear when you can swap Shard of alexander out against bosses, you're not going to get much weapon arts out against bosses

[@Chrightt]

I wouldn't run fire crystal tear either way. It isn't worth it cause you have so much physical in your build. The oil tear is mid at best. Flame Grant Me Strength is probably the best argument for full fire but greater barriers > FGMS. Still, if you prefer FGMS that's the best reason to run a flame infused spear which you can do with spare points. Not using Shard of Alexander already so nothing to swap out for bosses lol. You do you but stam tear feels the best for me on PSGS.

[@IngulasxD]

maliketh build next?

[@babyyodacamaro]

oh? new mic, nice nice!

[@pafunciobatista8244]

its incredible how badly the vagabond outshines the other classes for optimizing most builds, I'm currently planning a FAITH INT build and its still somehow the best class for it

[@simhae1775]

I think treespear better than barbed because power stance has *0.65 bleed and tree spear cant burff or sacred order

[@mattos_ssus7267]

We need a how 2 build a madness build for the dlc! The scalling of all new madness weapons are a mess, its like mundane in ds2

[@Shuryo_]

For 2 extra STR wouldnt the Vyke's War Spear be a really good option to power stance together ? Especially for PvP

[@Chrightt]

Has quite the lower AR and with the status nerf to powerstance moveset, it will be pretty hard to proc madness before straight up killing the guy if you don't run madness incantations.

[@Shuryo_]

@@Chrightt alright, thank you for the answer!

[@Taczy2023]

I can't be bothered with incantations (besides Flame Grant me Strength and Golden Vow), I'm level 160 now and wearing crucible knight armor and putting more points (a lot more points) into Dex is actually viable as well.

[@crabby6549]

I wanted to know something that i found 0 info online about and that someone like you should ha litte trouble figuring out. Does the enraged divine beast talisman interact with storm wall? Would be so cool if it improved i-frames.

[@Chrightt]

It does not.

[@crabby6549]

Sadge

[@ryanleatigaga7596]

Messmer's Spear might be my favorite Remembrance weapon so far. It's 1/1 the spear he uses combat-wise. I shredded Romina on my second try because of its AoW.

[@Smeik2901]

Messmer's Orb is top tier for the simple reason that it is the most badass incant in the entire game and due to the rule of cool is tier 0

[@aNsWeRkEy02]

milady or great katana next

[@user-zs7ew8zq8k]

I’d like to see your holy build.

[@Rukir]

Would the Twin Turtle Head not be better than the Virdian +3 at all times? Not sure if that's a math problem or not

[@Chrightt]

It would not because this is a max stamina problem. i.e. what if a boss flies away to do a move or has a lengthier animation? Your stamina pool will be refilled with or without the turtle talisman but the Viridian will give you 17% more duration the next time you start burning it.

[@elcawyo9629]

hey what do you think of the Beloved Stardust talisman ? is it really trash ?

[@Chrightt]

Yes, it is pretty bad. max vdex is 70 and your dex is probably 10~ or so at base. Radagon icon gives you 30 vdex without the downside which is a lot better than gaining 60 vdex worth of benefits for -30% negation.

[@jiamin4785]

Why not just run 2x bloodfiends sacred spear at this point, if we are mostly just using the moveset? Also I'd argue Leda's + Retaliatory crossed tree is better than blackquill + claw for dual great spears.