The Ultimate Runners Tier List - Controversial?!

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This one could cause a few arguments but I am here for it, in todays video I go through everything we runners do/use and rate it on my very own tier list. Do I think Parkrun is all it's cracked up to be, do I want to put super shoes in the bin? Well watch the vide and find out!
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[@BenIsRunning]

Here’s me just casually eating my porridge and boom, Philly throwing the shade. You running in miles makes so much sense now 🤪

[@PhilyBowden]

I could only choose the guy that takes it this well 😉

[@daniahamdy1919]

lol

[@Prisoner-973]

Parkrun is the gateway drug to the sport “it’s just a 5k, can’t hurt you..”. Before you know it they will be signing you up for half marathons😂

[@r-pupz7032]

Exactly what happened to me, I did couch to 5k (which was actually couch to about 4.3k at my pace) then thought "oh I'll try a Parkrun" - now I've done a half marathon and am training for a 50k 😅

[@GW2Anarii]

Real runners use parsecs for distance. I had a great 0.000000000000324 parsec run this morning. 😏

[@abilinney7555]

Love the grid tier comment!❤️

[@CarsAndChronometers]

😂😂😂

[@outerheaven8797]

Hahaha "real runners" aka nutcases

[@michaelandereck236]

Kessel runners

[@motomvk]

10km in earth units 😂

[@DawnxMoon]

Nobody tell her that trail running shorts have 6+ pockets!

[@thecaptainchas2820]

Phily saying “port-a-potty” in an American accent is PB material.

[@beautydiamond3664]

When Phily is talking about cross training and you're currently on the elliptical and always need her videos to get through those sessions.. 😂

[@PhilyBowden]

Haha keep doing it! Getting on there is half the battle! 💪🏼

[@lorenzgasztner4662]

You forgot the rounding error. Rounding up distance and max heart rate. And rounding down time, pace and average heart rate. Always do it.

[@kaleidoscope_adventures]

This is the way

[@akashichhaya7736]

Phily: The medal wall gives me the ick Mark Lewis: I don't care I can lift more than you, you twig!😂 I am alowed to flex at the duck pond and hang my medals!

[@silvermandavid]

I would love it (because I'm evil) if Daniel took up trail running and entered UTMB.

[@shishirvc680]

Ben just caught a stray out of nowhere 😂

[@mattsoutham]

There will be payback 😂

[@stealthnessrunchallenge]

I like to push the boundaries and measure my runs in chains (1 chain = 22 yards)

[@velloceti6898]

Someone's a fellow surveyor...

[@KarlBrownFootball]

I can’t believe “rounding to the nearest mile/km” was missed! 😂

[@sarahwoods3]

I printed out my power of 10 stats as part of my portfolio for a job interview once 😂 Best thing being it got me points in the interview 🤙 (and I got the job 😉)

[@marcusgrainger3329]

For a part two - Glucose monitors for non-(pre)diabetics (obviously for diabetics it's a life changer) (and hypothetical - if they made one that measured lactacte levels as well?). Heartrate straps. Soft flasks vs hard flasks. Flames/fireworks at finish lines. Kettlebells. Arm sleeves. Gravel/dirt tracks. Wearing your watch during sleep. "Unproductive". Ok, I'll stop now.

[@jackwilson4596]

This is low-key so funny, I love it

[@AussieAmz]

Such a great vid Phily and Dan 😂😂😂😂 I had to drop drinking my Monday morning coffee because of the epic funny edits/cutaways 😂😂 too many laughs

[@andrewhammonds4907]

Great video, really enjoyed it!

[@BassStevie]

As a 49 year old who occasionally wears vibram 5-fingers… I’m offended. Love the episode - love the grind!

[@brentmcculley478]

Is your name Ian? 😂

[@christinaclementson]

I love you Phily but you’ve just put my medals in the bin!!!!!! No way no way no way!! They’re on display (albeit in my spare bedroom) but they’re staying! Love the grind….

[@19JSC92]

You're a hero for making this video, it's brilliant! 😂👌

[@alisonbinns7158]

Brilliant video. Lots of fun.

[@steve2271]

Thoroughly entertained. Thank you 😊

[@charlenedupe]

When I heard "what"s utmb ?" I knew it was a war declaration Phily, you went TOO FAR

[@EmmaVZ]

I cannot do irl races because i have severe social anxiety. Virtual races were great because i could finally participate.

[@stevenburton5850]

Philly is scared of the trails? 😮

[@jackwentrunning]

The cutaway clips make this 😂😂

[@kristiangullner1904]

Haha brilliant video. The volcano had me burst into laughter.

[@MyfanwyCollins]

Needed this laugh today. Thanks!

[@nrg_runs]

Eating porridge while watching Phily put porridge in love the grind 👌🏼

[@oliver.gilbert]

Great video Phily, you have now inspired me to get my long run actually done... lol

[@emj8997]

Thanks Philly, this really made me laugh and love the vid 👍❤

[@g00dbyemisterA]

When you started talking about the plane i thought you were gonna talk about starting a run on your watch at take off, im gonna get that fastest segment london heathrow to hong kong run time!

[@RochelleBaines]

Love the channel and this vid. Km all the way, not stuck in the past 😉

[@maxbregozzo5185]

To add onto the medal wall, also keeping your race bibs from races over multiple years

[@PhilyBowden]

Again, something I did at uni! It’s acceptable if it’s the alternative to wallpaper, OR it’s to decorate a garage gym (IMO!)

[@AlbertWeijers]

This had been recommended by another KZbinr, to keep your bibs and write your time on them to remind you of the ( hopefully) progress you are making. I think it was Seth DeMoor.

[@riccardoolivo208]

That volcano edit cracked me up😆

[@tworunningbrooms]

Really enjoyed this! 😅

[@ian9552]

You nailed it with the Vibrams!

[@PhilyBowden]

Haha appreciate this 🥲

[@singeylhendup1440]

Memes were on point! Brilliant!

[@ciaranokelly8918]

Agree all the way except UTMB, Hydration vests and Parkrun. Parkrun = Love the Grind, UTMB and Hydration vests = PB Material!

[@PhilyBowden]

UTMB is just me poking the fire, waiting to get a barrage of hate from all the trail runners that I probably deserve 😂

[@cachecaver]

@@PhilyBowden The problem is the your spot on for the vest... I remember the first time out of necessity had to wear a vest were the first few miles to the trail was through urban areas. It was down right awkward. It's a lot worse when you strap on trek poles too. You end up looking like a lost hiker

[@RunAllTheMiles]

Erm, I have around 120 medals hanging on 1 complete wall and half of another in my gym lol, I mostly do fell running these days though and just for fun, no races, did yorkshire three peaks yesterday 😀👍

[@kofuzi]

Strava wankers was a beacon of light in the dark times

[@robwright1067]

fully agree with your dislike of holding phones/phone arm bands etc! I generally don't take my phone running; in an otherwise stressful life when I'm running is the one time I don't want to be contacted, nor do I listen to music 99% of the time. I occasionally chuck a ronhill stretchy arm pocket on if I think my sons school might need to call but otherwise it's all about disconnecting!

[@lauracostigan866]

Great video (and hilarious editing too). Agree with a lot, and here for Philly to become president of the pockets for women campaign. It’s needed (and not just in sports wear tbh!) Actually New Balance had a pretty decent pocket on a pair of their London Marathon shorts this year. Plus, it saves me having to TELL people I’ve run a marathon 😅 - which coincidentally should probably be on this list too. If you’ve done one, it’s the law. You HAVE to tell EVERYONE!

[@PhilyBowden]

Haha that last point is very true!

[@elizabethegan4982]

Kalenji shorts and leggings from Decathlon are great for pockets - one nice sized zipper pocket in the back. And the shorts have no lining, which, for me, is a beautiful thing! I must admit I bought a truck load of them a few years ago, so not sure what the newer models are like. Which reminds me...

[@lizzypicardi]

This video was so great.

[@jessicadavis2169]

May I remind you that as a trail runner, I get many many many many many many trees and bushes and ditches and rocks to poo behind. Also KILOMETRES! 😂 You’re lucky I love you and I didn’t unsubscribe due to this controversy! Love the grind ❤

[@petersalmon718]

I'm 55 with a medal wall 😮 love the grind

[@AlbertWeijers]

Me too, at 54, have a medal wall, proud of it! In our case we have limited time to fill them with medals and bibs.

[@emilyanderson4069]

Loved this 😁

[@deec6535]

I live in the States. I use metric for everything exercise-related because I have no expectations attached to the times, weights, etc. I know what my mile times used to be. I refuse to do the math to see what that would be in km. It allows me to run freely and take the times as merely DATA. Just data that I can use later. I love that. And boy’s shorts pockets ZIP CLOSED!!! They can put stuff in there, zip closed, and it DOES NOT FALL OUT!

[@jeffreyvasilatos2349]

Some of your comments really had me laughing. Especially as I can agree on the comments but your presentation on the categories is priceless.

[@pauljaffray6437]

Love the videos ❤ where would you put the d/treadmill? 🤔😂 Agree with most apart from the hydration vest for long runs should be higher 👌.

[@sethjohnson9483]

I love my 5-fingers! Did the Brighton Marathon in v-runs and could walk up and down stairs the following day. Padded trainers feel odd on road now. (I still use trail runners off road)

[@Stevenc1984]

When a non-runner asks what time you got in a race and they don't have any context for it. "What time did you get at Copenhagen Phily?... and is that a good time for you?"

[@peachxblue]

OMG your description of five fingers 😂😂😂😂 amazing

[@mikethebram]

Cycling improved my running more than I thought possible. Long easy bike rides give such a massive boost to aerobic fitness in my experience (Maybe more so for new runners like me) but cross training is a love the grind for me. Other than that I agree 😆 Also i use a hydration vest (often without water) to carry my keys, cards, phone on runs where necessary

[@katiev6456]

YES POCKETS! Phily seriously yes i am so with you on this 💪

[@Darkith11]

Loved the asterisk regarding porridge. Personally my Garmin watch goes in the "love the grind" tier because I'd be clueless without it. How would you rate weighted vests? They are popular in the fitness community, i.e., bodybuilders/crossfitters. Chris Heria highly recommends them for example.

[@Codeyuk]

😊 "It's strange when Philly asks for comments to engage in a debate, yet she has stopped interacting with fans on KZbin."

[@PhilyBowden]

Called out! Yeah, I need to get better at this! I switched off on replying to comments a while back after taking a couple of comments personally which I shouldn’t have, so I’ll do better!

[@Codeyuk]

@@PhilyBowden good to hear from you ❤️❤️

[@jamesdixon2141]

Absolutely love this! There's nothing like ruffling a few feathers! 🤣🤣 I'm with you on the Km & Miles and 'run with' slow runs on Strava. Makes me question the human race!

[@isaacc113]

Power of 10 is always love the grind

[@spou20]

Great vid! You are so going to be a trail enthusiastic when you're around 40 🤣

[@AlbertWeijers]

I had a pre-run poo, before starting a Parkrun. I found a spot in the bushes, and I was attacked by mosquitos... they even stung me right through my Stox... but had a good run after that.

[@chuck4863]

Thought it was parkrun 👀 😂😂😂

[@Matt-cp9wh]

i always look for tracks on planes haha. and the poo talk pretty accurate haha

[@dougmoore7424]

Love this video! 😂 However, UTMB has to be taken out of the bin. I finally qualified and ran Boston last year and switched to ultra 100 milers since then. I absolutely LOVE the adventure of these big and long trail races. You’re missing out on the adventure but if you’re already successful with road running then I get why you would want to stay there. For me, getting to UTMB is like my holy grail that ranks even above my prior desire to get to Boston. Reconsider… or I will get 1200 people to unfollow you. Hahaha! Totally kidding and totally love your stuff! 🎉

[@dawncollyer4479]

I love trail running, just nicer views on a long run especially hills. UTMB is a bin for me, as much as I’d love to do the route on my own, I’d never want to pay that company that much money. I’ve not done it but fell for ‘holy grail’ and did 3 Ironman branded races. The 4th got covid cancelled and that brand has no morals. Don’t they own UTMB? They must be very rich now as deferal policies can get in the bin too 😂. I saw sense and went back to running and cycling to work! Im sure you will love it and big brands do bring a big atmosphere to a location. I’ve clearly just gone anti big brand and prefer low key trail events 😊

[@jasonhutchinson3653]

Great content and as an American the translations are great. I was good until the last item. As an amateur runner I am very proud of these accomplishments. I don’t keep them in my living room but I do have a small hanging rack in my bedroom along with a scrape book for all of my race bibs. If I had been a runner earlier in life or a more accomplished runner I can see your point. Keep up the great content!!!

[@anniahornby3343]

Love the mug

[@SuperFuzzyDunlop]

If a coach tries getting me running in miles, I'm paying them in shillings and tuppences

[@_Domo_]

RUNNING WITH YOUR PHONE IS FUN THOUGH. (Banger video)

[@AbramoSalvestrin]

I agree on everything except Miles and Porridge. Miles is an imperial historical unit. It smells like monarchy. Km is a scientific based unit. And about Porridge ... sorry, I'm Italian, I can't accept eating suggestions from an English :-) Just joking, great video. Love this

[@nathanwarren5616]

BRILLIANT!

[@FigureskatesKC]

I was so scared on what you where going to say about park run but i then heard your cool with it so all problems solved 😎

[@leorogers6722]

Great vid! Can you confirm those round handheld water bottles belong in the bin?

[@chloerixson7867]

As a relative newbie to the running world (only 2 years in) I work in km vs miles because I managed to get into running by using the couch to 5km app (which belongs in PB material). From there I took up parkrun (love the grind) and found strava (love the grind), I still run with my phone (hand held and kinda meh) because running watches are expensive and the choice a bit overwhelming but I think getting one will be PB material. Absolutely love the grind when it comes to my (I'm 29) medal wall (well it's not a wall, it's just one small hanger that I'm trying to fill) because as a newbie runner it motivates me to get better and to keep training.

[@mattwiper]

Yeah think she forgets majority of races are 5k and 10k and of corse parkruns no one’s saying I’m off for a 3.1 mile run

[@jennierayner2152]

hell yeah on the couch to 5k, that's how i got into running too! and also kms just make more sense? 1000 meters, what could be easier? (also, in case you do want a running watch rec, i have the Garmin Forerunner 55, its not super duper pricey and has some pretty cool features, including training plans, its a nice one)

[@michaelgrant2132]

You need a running watch. It's a massive game changer. Just get a Garmin.

[@meganchabot]

Garmin forerunner 55. Great basic garmin watch. Have had mine for nearly 7ish years and its indestructible. Usually around $200ish but def check out deals!

[@crashinglikewaves]

never related to something as hard as your first comments about the caffeine tablets LOL

[@annabirch3870]

hahahahaha loved this so much !

[@rickburt2564]

Great video, I didn't agree with all your decisions, but as you said it's your list not anyone else's.

[@peachxblue]

I’m 34 and have a random coat rack next to my bed (from former tenant), so I put my marathon medal and a cute necklace on it during pandemic bc I didn’t have any other decorations…and now it’s become a medal rack 😭 I’m giving myself the ick!! But at least my motive wasn’t “wow look at me,” it was more like “eh might as well make my bedside coat rack useful!”

[@marathonranati]

Don't forget cold running weather! and arm sleeves! Amazing video! 👌, (I personally do not like oatmeal... prove me wrong!)

[@theunknown21329]

Cross training and strength training is definitely PB Material. Slashes your recovery time by days if done right.

[@jjames1949]

Thumbs down for not mentioning my suggestion…. The legendary JELLY BABIES……

[@cheeseysteve2658]

portaloos > UTMB, where is the triple like button? 😂

[@colrunswild4adventure781]

UTMB😂 brilliant! a mountain run through 3 countries around mount blanc described as an expensive race is spot on. 😅😅🎉

[@sarahguerrette524]

All around great video! We’re missing something huge though… you kind of touched on in with porridge… Carbs! Just all the carbs. We need a little C6H12O6 up there in PB land!

[@steventownley3342]

Treadmill running ? Is a big topic Very very thorough list 🤓

[@garymanders1273]

I love segments..i have made over 600 total in my local area which include local parkruns...normally anywhere from 400m to a mile...so on regular routes ill put in efforts etc...also about a quarter of them i have named after fellow local runners and running buddies..people love a bit of acknowledgement 🙂..Good tool for an old Goat like me approaching 60 to keep me motivated on runs....Great content as per normal 🙂

[@RDJ2]

Bit odd to find that "meh" for a competitive runner.

[@maranr]

You are so funny. I love this list and it will actually be helpful as I try and get better as an older runner. Gotta agree with one of the comments below, I would move the UTMB out of there are start a new category called "Bonkers". I followed Courtney Dauwalter and it is just crazy what what a person like her can do. It's pretty inspiring.

[@stephenwest6613]

Right, I have just ordered some pineapple tabs. That’s how much I trust your judgement ❤

[@robmurray1990]

Sadly the KT tape person is me - it is literally holding me together at times, and never mind the hydration vest, oh and the watch band tan, oh and ........ Not looking good for me! But at least no phone shoulder holster....... (as my phone is in my hydration vest pocket!) Love your commentary Phily - pity no post run beers (or 8, like tonight!) being listed though.

[@2spoons]

UTMB Ultra Trail Mont Blanc …. Lots of official races - give you points to help you qualify to actually run the UTMB IN Chamonix, in the French Alps…..

[@marshaklomp4354]

Nice video. I expected the last thing on the list to be a treadmill. Now I am curious where you would put it on your list. Would recommend?

[@AlbertWeijers]

For me it's Meh. Never used one in my life.

[@marshaklomp4354]

@@AlbertWeijers For me it would be as well, but I've seen Phily use it several times.

[@ferryvantichelen6521]

Can I suggest we all switch to "lightyears" for our unit for distance? Sounds so much cooler than both mile and meter combined. Although, milemeter does have a nice ring to it as well.

[@LexDundee]

Phily Bowden, p*ssing of Swedes, people called Ian & kilometer gang in one take 😂😂 love the grind 💪🏽 😂😂

[@revaliii6842]

Agree with practically all of these but feel slightly attacked on the trail running… 🤝 and by slightly attacked I mean I get a sense you don’t like trail

[@alfiecollins5617]

Yeah trail is way more enjoyable than road running. Sure, road is good for PBs. But if you're not racing, then who the hell would rather be running on asphalt, concrete or tarmac (probably with cars and their fumes going past), than running in the beautiful countryside with chirping birds? Doesn't make sense to me.

[@revaliii6842]

@@alfiecollins5617 exactly my point my man 🤝

[@jennierayner2152]

re: running with a phone, i just bought a sports bra with a phone pocket in the back... yes, i'm one of those losers who can't run without music or a podcast, and this has honestly changed my life. 100/10, would recommend.

[@carmensjournal677]

I loved the vid and I agree with a lot. But I have a different take on virtual races. I understand where you come from but I love them. I can’t go to races because I’m very easily sensory overloaded and I’m sick very often. With virtual races I can prepare for a race and then race it on my own, on a path I know, with no unfamiliar influences. And if I get sick on race day I can (that happens a lot) I can race two weeks later. I am only a very recreational runner though 😅 I also heard it helps a lot with motivation for people who want to become active. I have a friend who is overweight and had difficulties to stay motivated to walk. She signed up for a challenge where you have to walk or run 100 km in a month. And that motivates her to go for a walk everyday even if she doesn’t feel like it. But I do think that it is more something for recreational runners then for athletes. And I don’t have to worry about those portable toilets, I can just go at home 🤣

[@PhilyBowden]

Okay I now feel bad 🥺 this is a very good argument for them and o never even thought about this side of it as someone that loves the craziness of races but I get that it can be overwhelming for others! And the portaloo point is a huge win for you 😂

[@hauntedbarbiedoll]

I love the virtual races with coin rewards cos it's the most irl gamification of fitness I've witnessed and it's a fantastic initial motivator. Intrinsic motivation sometimes doesn't occur in people until they get out and actually see what they're capable first of so if it's getting folks out the door, then I think it's wonderful.

[@TheEzpze]

Foam roller in the bin?! I struggle enough to get on it as it is and this kind of dangerous misinformation is not needed... I'll allow it 'cos the rest of the video is funny as and you gave me Keira D'amato.

[@oliverchalkley1187]

I knew that I was always meant to be a runner when you put talking about a mid run poo in pb material ♥️

[@ismovanutube]

Loving the videos, keep them up. Bit of constructive feedback, hope you don't mind, most indoor shoots are a bit blurry and out of focus for watching it on the telly.

[@esgee3829]

strava is the GREATEST overtraining tool ever created. only use it for finding new routes. be happier and healthier

[@johnking7649]

Calf sleeves are essential at my age! 😂. Either wear them or not do running no more. 😫I would have to take up golf and wear those golfing trousers Philly, which look way worse! 😅

[@jjames1949]

I wear them to hide a hideous tattoo I got on my lower leg when I was 17 years old…. So yeah essential for me 😅😂

[@janeg4555]

I don't really wear calf sleeves for road runing, but for trail running they are a must for me. I do not want tree branches, thorns and other vegetation touching my calves. :l I appreciate the small protection without the heat of a full leg leggings.

[@sneakingjack9172]

Ahhhh Philberts amazing 👏 🤣 I LOLLd