The Ultimate Ryzen APU PC - Inwin B1

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Presenter: Brett Sticklemonster
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[@A.X.N]

Not a fan of the design, but I love the fact that you have the PSU at that price

[@david-spliso1928]

It should be included for that price... Too cynical?

[@JustAverageJeff]

Me either it's so ugly!

[@Doramyplays]

@@JustAverageJeff am i the only one who likes it?

[@ccricers]

4:41 two dragon balls next to a Namekian spaceship

[@countrygeekpc]

Thanks for the review!

[@alienUrbanoDevloper]

Imagine this: That case + Ryzen 4700G, 2100 stock VEGA 8 (maybe a +400mhz OC?) , 2166 FCLK, 4333mhz ram in dualchannel and synchronous mode... Dude.... GTX 1050 performance?

[@erichall090909]

Probably closer to 1050ti

[@ilhambuono5451]

Infinity fabric that is made by TSMC is really fast tho

[@tmi1234567]

I heavily doubt you will get 2500 MHz out of Vega at a safe SOC voltage. I am not quite sure. It's getting either 0.9 or 1.4v. It really depends on how it scales too. It could go either way honestly.

[@alienUrbanoDevloper]

@@nathangamble125 I'm not so optimistic about being a GTX 1050ti performance, but a well optimized 3200G with good ram it's above the GT 1030 in some cases. And with this new APUs it's not just a node change, that's what makes me think how much it will improve above the actual Vega 8. It's a better optimized and higher IPC Vega + 1000 MHz above the 2200G, faster ram support, low inner latency, high FCLK clock that allow to pair with high frequency memory with synchronous mode.. It's a LOT of changes that help out the CPU above the 3700 and a LOT to the iGPU too.. It's a Huge bump.. But I'm not pretty sure if will be enough to pair with a GTX 960/1050. As you said, it's a good margin above the GT 1030.

[@kasomoru6]

Upgrade the 200w psu to maybe a 400w psu and do some overclocking Ohh btw wouldn't it be better to turn off smt since it is rumored to be 8 cores anyway.

[@OrkDiktator]

After Sony revealed the PS5 I couldn't imagine routers being this small

[@0ooTheMAXXoo0]

Ork Diktator PS5 is Ryzen 2 with memory speed of a GPU, full speed CPU and faster than normal GPU. Way too custom to really compare... There may never be a PC like a console because of lack of demand... has not happened yet...

[@randalldraco3822]

@@0ooTheMAXXoo0 And they never will, because it needs custom small form factors for each component. Basically, prebuilds or laptops fill that niche.

[@unou588]

Honestly i'd love to have this for a physical firewall setup for home. Ryzen processors could definitely handle the multitasking required :P though cooling that in this case could be a minor issue lol

[@ck17350]

10 year old Intel Atom processors handle fairly sophisticated firewalls which are orders of magnitude more powerful than what you could ever need in your home. So yeah, I'm sure a Ryzen processor could handle this. Lol. Good call though.

[@CheapBastard1988]

That case looks beautiful with a horizontal stand.

[@giovannip.1433]

Nice - look forward to 'mini' work PCs containing AMD APUs instead of the low power Intel options...

[@JJ21lives4ever]

Brainus. Nice to see where you went with it, could be some new interesting topics to follow now that the rebranding started?

[@xplayac]

Is it possible that you could do a 3D printed ring around the case to give you a little more clearance for that part? That would be cool to see how that turns out.

[@kenengstrom7808]

Problem is the top is glass, so even if you add the extra space to get the cooler in there is no clearance for air. So you would have to get it even higher. I'd rather replace the glass with mesh. Or just go passive on the CPU sadly also there the AM4 Arctic Alpine is juuuust slightly taller. :)

[@heirtothethrone000]

This is a cool case and I would love to see a larger version of it because I think it would be nice in a livingroom.

[@AmartharDrakestone]

There's the Cryorig C7 RGB to consider.

[@cryptsys]

ok that price is really good. i was expecting the nonsense $200+ that some companies have been setting for theirs. but looks like you could do something close to $300 for a nice PC for something like parents/grand parents that only surf the web or watch movies.

[@jimmayorga1863]

You could. Athlon 3000g + 8gb ram dual channel at good speed. But you better watch out those prices for that mf cause better go for the 3200g at almost the same price.

[@orville126]

thanks for sharing this bro

[@seasesh4073]

is that me in the back? lol

[@sleeper_cell3918]

that inwin case looks like an ultra sonic cleaner

[@TheGreatSatan_]

I have one waiting to be used as well. I'm just trying to hold out for a B550 ITX and I too would like to use the 4700G. It also helps if you turn that fan around and make it an intake fan. It does a lot better job cooling the VRMs

[@aryanz66]

Looks really cool!

[@FerrumBellator]

Love mini itx builds, always have one for htpc. So much better then junkie smart tv os.

[@NovaDoll]

Yes cooler master makes a low profile rgb cooler. It’s $40

[@jotunheim5302]

Does it tho, does it really

[@icefn6897]

Would you mind sending me a link for that??! it would be really appreciated

[@poepflater]

Hey boet, glad you're back.

[@dciking]

I keep seeing the machine gun robots in Portal. I want a white one to mod!

[@b6s4shelter]

I know this is 1 year ago. New In Win Chopin Pro 200W PSU $120 is a great alternative.

[@dumboy886]

Brett, you can remove the crown from the wraith cooler, and gain a few mm. That saved me when I built a mini ITX in a clock, and the pendulum was scraping against the wraith. Took the crown off (it's glued on slightly, just pry gently but firmly) and now I'm clear by 2mm or so

[@dumboy886]

Although I just measured, the top of the fan of the wraith from the mobo's pcb is 70mm

[@shrekdaklown]

i just did a 3400g build in the inwin choppin case that they used ideas from for this and i love it very small and looks great

[@RameXRacing]

link to inwin b1 is broken :/ goes to PSU

[@avglebowski]

I just build one as well for my girlfriend. I order it in April and got my case a week earlier then there actual release. I currently have a 3200g but am waiting for zen 2 apus, so she can game more comfortably on it as well.

[@orozcocris93]

wait he knows you can take off the shroud to the wraith cooler right? dont know if it would make it fit if he removed it but it does make it smaller but just a few millimetres. the one that came with my 3600 measures 51 millimetres with the fan shroud off (measuring from the motherboard and the cooler installed)

[@danielschriver52]

Good luck finding an AMD mini ITX motherboard anywhere right now....

[@wingscancer]

looks like a nice size to build you our router

[@AngelManuelPerez]

Ah, the perfect case for the 4800G we've been desperately waiting for!

[@greenprotag]

we need a slightly larger version with a 350w flex PSU and room for a low profile GPU. Or you could order a metalfish S3 or K39 from Aliexpress. I love my SFF PC builds.

[@abhishekaggarwal6473]

I thought I was watching another channel with your content on it 😂

[@DaneGilCabrales]

This is as portable as a laptop and has more selling point (customizable) than a laptop if it also has a built in screen.

[@danielson9579]

I like it.

[@sephrus7784]

Does the spire fit without the shroud? That how Tech Yes was able to get one into an asrock mini.

[@pierrebeauregard5369]

4:34 dont like the fact that there is space for half-height pcie but its closed off. I wont buy this rev.

[@Ikxi]

It would be directly next to the psu and could warm up quite a bit Or could cut your own hole, as the case seems to be mostly made by plastic

[@alienUrbanoDevloper]

With a 200W PSU I don't see many uses for it... You already have a decent amount of storage ports... LP GT 710, 730, and 1030 I'm pretty sure that is close enough to a Ryzen 3> APU... The only case that I see use of this is just putting a blower/exhaust in... Maybe more USBs... And you can cut it by yourself, it's plastic.

[@RandomPlaceHolderName]

@@alienUrbanoDevloper 200w 80+G is plenty for 65w cpu/1650LP combo. That said, this has a terrible layout. Although it doesn't come with a PSU, the velka 3 is a much better option for anyone looking to go very SSF and low wattage. 10700T + 1660S would make an incredible 200w gaming rig.

[@gismo3564]

@@RandomPlaceHolderName while I agree on with you as a whole I would probably switch the velka3 to a k39 due to availability and also the GPU to a 5600xt itx version. (Depends on price in region, but here they cost the same and the 5600xt is slightly faster, while consuming the same amount of power) Unless you are in need of nvenc encoder. Assuming you need more GPU performance I believe 2070S is top tier itx card. Also, don't forget to UV, regardless of which type of GPU.

[@kenengstrom7808]

Even the current generation AMD integrated graphics will beat most low-profile, single slot GPU's out there. So kind of pointless for that. However, yes it would be nice to be able to any other expansion card. I guess if that comes it Dremel time. :)

[@GilangRamadhan-rj5hx]

Dope case for APU only PC 👍

[@mahin1islam]

The new $99 InWin Chopin over this one any day. A less ridiculous design and a slightly larger chassis (3.3L vs 3.1L) allowing for standard wraith stealth coolers. Also comes with a build-in PSU.

[@malathomas6141]

Asrock a300 deskmini is the best tbh comes with a 110w PSU and a motherboard

[@etielrincon]

The wraith stealth fits in this case

[@marcuswilson3375]

It looks like a redesigned fan chassis

[@kasomoru6]

I got one they are great 👍

[@jamesgrant247]

You can fit a wraith stealth, you just need to remove the decorative shroud/ring on top of the cooler.

[@BratislavMetulskie]

how loud is the fan of the case and the psu? can you install a 25mm sys fan?

[@chadmckean9026]

$80 for a case and quality psu? that is fair wonder if you can use the pcie slot for a low profile single slot card

[@Ikxi]

Probably when you cut a whole in the case But I wouldn't say it's very good Because it would be right next to the PSU That would get toasty in heavy loads

[@malathomas6141]

They should have tried to add a motherboard since itx motherboards are expensive they could have sold this for $150 with a peer supply and a motherboard

[@LukeHimself]

When it's laying flat, *it looks like an air cleaner!!*

[@francisryanros1007]

The wraith stealth cooler could probably fit by removing the shroud with the amd logo just like what other people are doing to make it fit its predecessor the inwin chopin

[@earnistse4899]

You’d have your self a nice little gaming machine with the newer 4700g

[@ronyzmiri]

How would you compare this case to the InWin Chopin?

[@MrJohnLongbow]

Brainus? Did you change the channel name?

[@samrybkin9184]

Hi, please can you write what the model of cooler was on processor?

[@FirearesJR]

Hello! Lovely build, I'm planning to buy the inWin B1 as soon as there are Thunderbolt4 MINI-ATX. I need a portable i9 gen 11 workstation and Intel NUCs are expensive/hardly upgradable; at home the idea is to plug a thunderbolt 4 eGPU (obviously the eGPU encasing has its own PSU) What's stopping me is the stock fan noise, everyone is reporting. Do you think that with a high-end third party 80mm it can be easily fixed? Ergo, the problem is the stock inWIN80mm or? Also, is the inWin logo removable in some way? maybe chemically? Or is it etched? Thanks!

[@BornArcher8]

Look into Velka case 3 it's 4 litres and can still support a graphics card.

[@randalldraco3822]

Almost like a console :)

[@watcheths]

Could try with a better top fan (noctua?) And passive only CPU, because the CPU fan will be about as great for airflow as a non-blower graphics card..

[@johanCferreira]

Love the dragon balls

[@icefn6897]

Hey, if i get the ryzen 7 4700g or whatever it is, will 200w be enough? please reply!

[@ternings]

What MB did you use? I'd hate to get one that had the M.2 slot in the wrong place, or the cables wouldn't reach... this looks perfect for a build I'm about to do though!

[@RAHULGUPTA870]

Looks like the namek vehicle from DBZ 😂😂.

[@jacoavo7875]

duuuuude hahahaha

[@mushi_k]

Slap on some Capsule Corp stickers and we're good to go!

[@gismo3564]

Unfortunately just short of a "alpine am4 passive cooler" . Would have been a top candidate with the 80mm fan so close.

[@MrBrandonLau]

I almost bought one when i found out you cant use a wraith prism cooler in it 😭

[@obiwanceleri]

Proper exit: pretend there is a staircase leading down behind the counter

[@lttstoredotcum]

not the first, not the last...

[@k3nobi366]

It's a kinda of a shame that it's psu wattage aint that big, tho if you were to think about it APU doesn't consume much power. So I guess the 250w psu make sense

[@malathomas6141]

250w is a lot for an apu that doesn’t even use 100w total power consumption

[@itsdeonlol]

Nice!

[@usernamefromhell]

I'd usually recommend the asrock a300w over this...but prices on those have gone crazy.

[@notmyfaultthisishappening3795]

It does actually resemble those bots in Portal 2...

[@donh8833]

Now i just need to find a dual nic itx board

[@will4real58]

I dunno I've been AAA gaming on my Fire TV, thanks to Steam link, not sure if I need this.. Lol

[@honeybadger6127]

how is this better than the AsRock deskmini A300?

[@malathomas6141]

It’s worse and doesn’t come with a motherboard which is expensive

[@Rose.Of.Hizaki]

If it was white, it could of been the little turret from Portal.

[@IanTheCat]

Yaaaasssss

[@potatopotatopotatopotatopo8746]

BRAINUS?!

[@andremalerba5281]

I would love it if they had a slightly bigger version with the top mesh and a vertical mount GPU. A case slightly bigger than that would make a neat VR Rig!

[@iamlandman]

What on the ceiling? Why do you keep looking up? :P

[@DoctorX17]

Not a fan... I prefer the InWin Chopin. Smaller, sleeker exterior, dual USB and headphone/mic Jack at the the front on the side/top, doesn't even need feet

[@malathomas6141]

The asrock deskmini a300 is the best mini pc

[@denvera1g1]

So this isnt going to be good for a 4700G becuase of wraith cooler?

[@denvera1g1]

@@nathangamble125 i have small AIOs for my pair of x5690, judging by the fact that they still turbo, i'd say an AIO would be good if it could fit, expecially for a 65w processor

[@shrekdaklown]

it will fit a noctua nh-l9a just like the choppin case inwin made but i think the choppin looks better and prob has better cpu cooling

[@JL-ix5io]

at least install the io shield for the video.

[@aderek79]

I like the idea, but not a fan of that case.

[@danfrancisco3891]

Looks like a projector.

[@amehu]

I wouldn't mind if it were 3.1 litres but fits AMD Ryzen original coolers. Failed.

[@vincentgreen2001]

that's cute

[@joescalon541]

That's a tiny boy, but soon will have 4700G when ever it comes out.

[@mhh3]

you didn't test the thermals

[@Ikxi]

He probably doesn't feel comfortable or doesn't have the time to make a good thermal review Ask GN

[@stevedeitry4644]

Elevated Systems did a pretty detailed review of the B1 with thermal benchmarking.

[@greenmurphy]

Aerocool CS 101 - £24.99

[@theoneyoudontsee8315]

just get a low profile fan!

[@TheSkarus]

Looks like a waffle iron.

[@TheLilPorkChop]

o_o how did u get ur hands on an early XboxSX chassis?

[@DenzCasuela]

that design is like a decade old pc

[@schu1324]

HAHAHAHA Subscribe thing

[@wingscancer]

Last

[@heroclashes941]

My whole PC don't cost 85$

[@Vitobeat]

terrible case. not blowing out. took off the top cover and the CPU temperature dropped by 30-40 degrees. no perforation of the glass can be made because it is knee. the case stands without glass. design mistake definitely. did not understand why the cooler runs at maximum

[@SerjStar]

Bro show gaming performance on your vids . Or like an entertaining conclusions .

[@orozcocris93]

they are going to make an 8 core igpu but are going to keep vega 11... lame!

[@remo27]

"Coming in at about 3 meters of size": That would be NINE FEET plus, not to mention even if you had substituted meters for feet accidentally, 3 FEET wouldn't be esp small. What caused this goof and how tall is this thing really?

[@abhay17381]

He said 3 litres of size lol

[@heyieiro]

first

[@jessicabruno2820]

Looks like some kind of small appliance. I am a huge fan of tiny pcs in general but not this one!

[@jasongooden917]

It's very small... Part falls off It's $85 bucks.. Part falls off I bet It's made in China

[@Ikxi]

Of course it's made in China Most electronics come from there He said himself that he didn't screw on the back panel, if you haven't heard that 0:40 And the stand for upright is just a clip on so you can easily change it, which in my opinion is better than having to screw all the time

[@marvo486]

Rumour has it he likes your comment if u ask sooooo plzz