Super Tiny RYZEN 8700G Gaming Build! The Fastest APU You Can Buy!

[@M419.99]

To put things into perspective, my HP laptop that I'm still using rocks a 4th core i5, 16gb of 1600mhz ddr3 ram. It maxes out at 65W all the time JUST TO PLAY THIS KZbin VIDEO. Ten years later these AMD APU can game comfortably at 15W or lower. Progress!!

[@ciungalunga]

i have the same build + GTX1050 running Linux Mint. I wonder how much it draws from the wall...

[@pankoza2]

still doesn't beat my old AMD C-60 with a 9W TDP

[@kaczan3]

I thik these apus run at 65w

[@baoquoc3710]

@@pankoza2 i bet it would be slow as fcuk lol, oh wait

[@xorkatoss]

what do you mean 4th core i5 bro?????? I did a quick google search and I found an Intel i5-4210U for less than 100 euro, those laptop are trash LOL (no offense) I pray money comes your way and you can afford a nice and new ryzen laptop 🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@tonyd7164]

my 8700g gets here today. so stoked!

[@kasimirdenhertog3516]

Mine too! 🥳

[@yorkyalmanzar8959]

How is it!?

[@kasimirdenhertog3516]

@@yorkyalmanzar8959 depends on what you expect. I want something very efficient and capable of running high speed memory. In that regard, the 8700G is very impressive. Idle is just 6-7W, which is incredible compared to chiplet Ryzens (I had a 5600X that consumed 30W just sitting at the desktop). And I dialed in some DDR5-8000, no sweat! Next plan is to delid, to drop up to 25C (according to der8auer).

[@The_True_Scratch]

I recently bought it, but it is severely underperforming in all these games. Does anybody know what is going on?

[@yorkyalmanzar8959]

​@@The_True_Scratchis it better now with the new drivers!?

[@willlee465]

Finally! Been waiting for this since the 5700g video.

[@shubsodhi5986]

?

[@chrisB_OG]

me too

[@smartcam1701]

From Phoenix AZ. This is a perfect 1080p 100w for my summer needs. Nicely done AMD and ETA Prime.

[@stephenxs8354]

100w? 65w tdp.

[@wandameadows5736]

@@stephenxs8354 80-100w with load

[@Arijit_]

Total 120w​@@stephenxs8354

[@gimubatulo]

@@stephenxs8354100w minimum with stable iGPU OC usage.

[@pleasuretokill]

I live here too. I am dreading summer. Our nice temps are going to go away quick.

[@tomraider099]

~100watt decent 1080 gaming is an ultimate option for a green energy user like me. Very efficient

[@maximeperron12]

You must be fun at parties.

[@davidframe1613]

😁🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣😂🤣😂😂😂🤣🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

[@hiepbenh88]

guys laughing but they dont know at summer here in hanoi VN, i cant even use my PC coz it's too fking HOT ! cant use air conditioner everytime, it's gonna burn my wallet and heath

[@davidframe1613]

@@hiepbenh88 I understand I really do. I just thought it was funny the way the guy put I bet you're really fun at panties. 😂🤣 Sometimes you got to just learn to laugh even if it's at yourself.

[@chiboreache]

@@hiepbenh88 same, i bought 5950X and build custom water cooling rig, but i having random reboots twice a week cause it too hot =( i need $500 chiller or downgrade my CPU -_-

[@TrusteftTech]

In my PC I have a i7 5960X from 2014-15, 8C/16T, 64GB of RAM and a GTX 1660 Super. While my GPU is faster than this iGPU, the CPU has less than half the single core performance and even lower multicore, than this APU. My computer is inside a small house PC case (which I like but it is huge). I still wouldn't go and compare my now close to ancient system with this new one. It's not just the size difference, it's the pure CPU performance difference in favor of this build, and the cost. When I bought the parts when they were new, the CPU alone was more expensive than this small PC with all its parts together. I am still glad I have this PC as I am now poor and can't afford to buy new parts, but it is quite interesting how far ahead we went the last few years. Of course nothing compared to the 90s when I was buying a new PC every 15 minutes just to stay relevant and able to play the latest Wing Commander game lol.

[@Bobenhaus]

This guy pumps out videos for anybody that will send him a product to sling

[@TrusteftTech]

@@Bobenhaus Possibly. Nothing wrong with that. I would do it too if I had companies sending me products I could test. Few years ago, on my main channel, I had a company approach me to test their brand new type C usb hub. I had no type c computer at the time. Well...I still don't as I have the same PC lol. My point is, there is nothing wrong with what he does as long as he doesn't lie about the products. If there is one thing I don't like about what he does, is how in every video he asks the viewers input on any number of things and yet he never seems to reply to anything on any video. So...that sucks.

[@micksterminator3]

Your build is fine as long as it suits your needs. Try overclocking, it helped out my x58 setup a lot. I'm sure a GPU upgrade would make it perform a lot better in games. I use a 1660 super and it doesn't really hold up in 1440p sadly. Probably gonna wait for some big price drops in the future with the current cards.

[@TrusteftTech]

@@micksterminator3 I don't do overclocking. Never have, never will. That's how I am. The 1660 Super is still tolerable, though yes obviously is not the top of the line to say the least. Having a 1440p monitor isn't very helpful either. I don't see me buying even a cheap GPU in the future, the whole being poor thing, but if you can do it certain do so. Funny thing is I find the system performance more problematic with video editing than with games. Anything over 1080p is troublesome at times. It doesn't help that I use an older version of Vegas (technically Vegas Studio 17, the last proper Studio based on Vegas), which has a tendency to crash when using the GPU for the workload. Anyway, thanks for the reply.

[@M419.99]

@@TrusteftTech the 1660S is still a very capable card, just need to focus on upping the CPU and you're good to go 🤝

[@catsspat]

You can fit any standard 80mm fan on a Wraith Stealth / Spire. Even a standard 25mm tall fan will lower the overall height, but you can use thinner 15mm fan and reduce the height even further.

[@ClappOnUpp]

It's funny because I was searching for a build like this yesterday and there weren't any on KZbin yet. Of course it would come from ETA😂

[@richardmcgowan1651]

Keep in mind all this APUs are still running in "handheld" mode. Were power will fall off that is supplied to the APU over time. Its a left over from these family of APUs being installed in so many PC handhelds over the past few years. Basically to stop the handhelds melting in people's hands. AMD never removed it in these new desktop APUs. So wait until AMD fixes the issue. As far as I know they are aware of the issue.

[@bzipoli]

hmm very interesting

[@guyza123]

@waitwhat1320 don't get too excited, its from 4200 mhz to 4600 mhz, means nothing for gaming.

[@wayward03]

@@guyza123 Not sure if ETA ran his tests long enough, but Gamers Nexus noticed this issue when testing, I believe it's called STAPM, and cuts the package power after a while to limit skin temps. I don't think it had any specific frequency range.

[@foxtrotmp5]

I’d really love it if you did a video testing several of the tiny PC’s you’ve reviewed for VR gaming. I really want to ditch my bulky desktop and switch to one of these tiny APU powered desktops, but my gaming build must support VR gaming and I can’t seem to find many people talking about running VR off these tiny machines.

[@bzipoli]

dude if you told me 1080p med would have this kind of performance on cyberpunk 2 yrs ago on a APU i would call you crazy

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

anticipating highest tier vega, 990m

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

not sure where though 9900g would be silly like 1000$ apu 12 cores lul unless 890m will be in like a 8800g

[@JBrinx18]

I hope AsRock comes out with a new low cost DeskMini. That basically is the only use case for a desktop cpu like this

[@DarkguyAT]

DeskMini, DeskMeet and Jupiter X600 barebones have all been confirmed at CES. Looking forward to a DeskMini video myself

[@pranze3484]

They are coming but with a 120W PSU. Good luck with that, with a 88W APU, ram, ssd, mobo, fan, it's going to leave virtually 0 room, not good at all.

[@stephenxs8354]

@@pranze3484 8700G is a 65W TDP.

[@thelegendaryklobb2879]

@@pranze3484 That's bad

[@転造花寺]

urgh, AsRock... Gamers Nexus told me if you want to buy their mobo, you gotta wait a little longer cause there's obviously a problem every time they launch a new line of mobos

[@frankfortfcgoc]

Dude thats a sick lookin little build

[@perceptionx7thedamnartist715]

Ps4 killer You always make proud, ETA Prime

[@bighousemusic628]

You mean ps5 killer pc always step on consoles

[@rothein436]

@@bighousemusic628 this pc isnt half the performnce as a ps5 but sure

[@bighousemusic628]

@@rothein436 bro i build and program computers you cant and will never put a gaming console with a pc bro the rams alone in this pc swallow any gaming console not to mention a dedicated gpu i wont even talk about overclocking and ai tech even any lowend pc eill smoke the ps5 or x box series

[@marcopalmitessa2860]

@@bighousemusic628 you are a pc fanboy. I own a minipc with an AMD 7840HS and is not even close to a PS5/XBOXSX. Maybe, in some games, it is on par with the Series S, but only that.

[@rothein436]

@bighousemusic628 The fact that the ram here is better means almost nothing in performance. You won't be able to overclock this pc because your psw is only 200 watts, and cooler isn't strong enough for cooling this. Don't understand what you said about dedicated gpu because we're talking about this pc, and he doesn't have one. Even with ai, this pc isn't close to a ps5 performance. And this pc cost more than a ps5. For 500 usd going only with new parts against a new ps5, the price to performance is similar. I have both a pc and ps5, and I use both, but saying that a pc with 780m (equal to 1650) Is better than ps5 (equal to 6700) straight-up ridiculous I'm sorry

[@JayBareBear]

Can't wait for the emulation vid!❤️

[@DustinMillerPolyInnovator]

I was thinking about this and so I'm really glad you made this video

[@eyestorm3289]

Great content! However, one of the most important factors is the noise level. Could you please measure how silent or noisy this system runs?

[@jamesgarrett3000]

I'm doing a build like this in a few days. I fricken LOVE the small form factor aspect. It just makes the computer feel interesting. I have a 12900K and 7900GRE PC right now, but I want something small that can still do what I want, which is oldschool runescape lol.

[@ChrisRz]

Please make a video showing emulation performance, like a pc to have in your living room to play some older games.

[@tornadoman25]

Usually the emulation videos are next after the build videos bro just check back soon maybe next week.

[@greatwavefan397]

Especially PS3 emulation! It can take advantage of the eight cores and AVX-512 instructions.

[@ChrisRz]

@@greatwavefan397 yeah man i really would like to see how it handles god of war 3

[@ezcoreg759]

I always bought medium to high end, high end, or really high end which would cost multiple of thousands of dollars for my PC. Recently i havent felt the urge to do that anymore and have been really wanting to build APU builds, and after seeing this video you have given me a great place to start. I just love how compact they are, and call me crazy but i find it fun to tweak settings out of things to get more power out of it, especially if its "under powered". I just been finding the older i get the more focused on "efficiency" over brute power i am. I blame Valve fot making the Steam Deck, cus when i bought one i really started tinkering with it way more than my own PC that is overclocked.

[@realggo]

3:19 I was startled thinking someone was knocking on my door lol

[@wcg66]

I have that case with a 5600G, it's a killer office PC setup. The included PSU is really the trick because building the equivalent with separate case and PSU would be way much more and much larger too.

[@Wraith1283]

When the Strix point APUs come out this will be a bad ass little machine. I am patiently waiting for these APUs to release to buiild myself a portable PC for traveling.

[@AlphaConde-qy7vi]

Strix Halo, more like.

[@artmedinajr]

Personally, I truly love the small form factor to fit on your desk, and looks super clean and nice. However, your right mid towers add for more growth and expansion to create a better system. Well done!!!

[@NerdyMani]

Ryzen has come a long way from the 3000 series. Might have to go team red this year.

[@rodrigofilho1996]

Are u in 2020? AMD has been the best buy since ryzen 5000...

[@Bob_Smith19]

@@rodrigofilho19963000 series was better but for productivity

[@chaz-e]

Cyberpunk 2077 running at 70+fps is amazing for an iGPU. Great work by AMD research team.

[@GlobalWave1]

True… I’m running cyberpunk 2077 on my M2 Max laptop through crossover with cxpatcher and at mostly max settings on 4k with upscaling on. I’m getting around 50-70 and that’s on an iGPU running non native. I can max out the settings at 4k upscaling with metal getting around 70-90fps on resident evil village and Re4 remake. I’ve seen some people getting just below a 4090 mobile GPU on some native run Mac games.

[@chaz-e]

@@GlobalWave1 which iGPU your laptop has

[@thebeyonder8814]

@@chaz-e on MEDIUM settings no less! Wow

[@garfieldrupe630]

This System is Way Cool. Thank you for posting this

[@mcglol]

about $1,000 system that matches a GTX 960 & I5-6600 from 2015 - and you will argue "this is so small!" but you can get a 960 and 6600 in sub 5 litres

[@misteryamato]

The case he showed isn't even 3 liters@waitwhat1320 and you can add a 960 to that case you must be an eta prime alt account or just glazing really hard

[@misteryamato]

ETA Prime: Reviews products as an advertisements shows all the pros but never the cons or alternatives.

[@gandalfthegreet]

Wait you forgot about using all the most expensive and unnecessary parts😂

[@jwonyoutube]

Good wholesome stuff without the ragebait other channels peddle for reaction clicks

[@thelockster6321]

What alternatives? The ryzen 5 8600g? Intel has nothing competitive... The cons are that it is an apu build...

[@markmontes007]

​@@gandalfthegreet May I know the cons? I'm contemplating on building a small form factor gamin pc myself. Thanks!

[@Kevin-vh6nn]

@markmontes007 There's really only 2 cons for the 8600g "not sure about the 8700g". 1. It's 16 PCIe and only 4 lanes, meanwhile the last amd 7000 series were 24 PCIe and 5 lanes, down the road when you get a good new video card you'll prob want 24 PCIe. 2. Insane people who play AAA games 6 hours in a row say the 8600g gets really hot and possible game crashes. But that's their fault bc anybody with a sane logical brain would never game over 4 hours straight on a integrated graphics card Honestly I'm half tempted to get a 8600g right now bc I just play skyrim and emulators amd waiting on elder scrolls 6. Just go to KZbin and search "24 PCIe vs 16 PCIe" It's really personal choice and how much $ you have... hardcore gamers will scream you need 24 PCIe, and that's not true

[@vsuarezp]

I hope you receive a test unit for the new "coming soon" Deskmini X600 so you can try to fit this APU there!!!

[@baialjo]

This is my dream build. Its like a console! Aaaaaaa

[@davemort83]

I'm going to build this for my son and run bazitte - thanks for making this video (and other similar).

[@grtitann7425]

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think that you can remove the shroud of the stock cooler and it should fit in that case.

[@EvryGama]

@ETA PRIME I didn't fully get it in your video; Is the 200 Watts power delivery already shortening the full power of the components of this setup, or does the mainboard? You were saying in a normal, "full format" pc we could get better performance; is it really like that that those small factor mainboards can't handle a higher power delivery? Can you just explain it a bit more precisely to us? I mean, I'm already having a good desktop pc, but those mini PCs actually are really interesting and now with the new, way faster APUs start to make totally sense! Especially for Notebooks, to keep them light weight and power efficient, but still allowing proper gaming, it is just awesome! 😃😃😃 Might get one in the future myself! ☺️😉👌👍

[@rafaelcarreno778]

Love it. Excellent video, Uncle ETA.

[@alterbr33d]

3:17 3:45 All those taps makes me think something is going on outside my room with my headphones on.

[@DaBigCheeso]

I'm really excited for these new AMD APUs. Whenever it's time to build a new rig, I'd love to do a more compact design. I've still got a good 3-4 years in my current setup so hopefully they'll be pushing 1440 by then.

[@reviewaccount469]

The build is about ~$1200 after tax and shipping in the US as of 2/24. For an all in one decent gamer, its actually reasonably priced, but wow has inflation taken its toll. This would have been much cheaper just a year ago.

[@ciungalunga]

does it make more sense to get a 7840hs + 32Gb 5600DDR5 + 1tb ssd at 700-900$ ish ? (minisforum UM790 Pro, Herk Orion Pro, or Beelink SER7 )

[@tonyd7164]

Just finished my build with the 8700G and it was right at about $950. Used the asrock 650 itx board and the AO9 case from china was 40 bucks shipped. Seasonic 300 watt psu was $99 and id cooling is55 was $40

[@Glotttis]

To any gamer consider this, please don't do this to yourself. Instead build a proper PC with a dedicated GPU. You'll thank me later. Videos like this is just a fun "what if" exercise and isn't meant to be recommendation for a mainstream consumer.

[@_RobertOnline_]

Looking forward to seeing you try this processor with emulation.

[@anirbanghosh6264]

Hey many I was also very happy when the 8000 series processor came out

[@lupintheiii3055]

Finally someone that understand the purpouse of the 8700G!

[@danieldelillo]

What exactly is that purpose? The GPU performance is way too similar to a mini-pc for it be meaningful IMO, but that's just me

[@Glotttis]

​@@danieldelillo You are right this makes no sense at all in a desktop form factor. The only advantage a desktop PC has over other form factors is performance. And here we have low end laptop performance in a desktop chassis. If someone is so concerned with desk space, they can build a proper PC with a dGPU in a slightly larger case (there are soooo many options nowadays). It would be 10x more useful and long lasting PC than this underpowered junk.

[@Lycox15]

Finally. Someone who answers the most important question. It runs Crysis.

[@cxzuk]

Who would have guessed ETA Prime has such lovely hands and wears red nail polish 💅

[@TheRealTommyBear33]

this is amazing as a 1080 p person I would love to build this and its so small and i can carry it without breaking my back lol

[@getbluespheres3k]

they're getting faster than almost every PC that has specs older than 2019

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

true back then most prob using either 570 or 1060 6gb, only kings has 1080ti was great time until raytracing introduced, fortunately have tried all 3 they were best in the era

[@nakkuzee]

APUs are the future!!!

[@Iomar1975]

The Minisforum keyboard looks good.

[@MattDavisStormnight]

I would like to see a ChimeraOS video if possible

[@vsuarezp]

Yes please!!! Show us ChimeraOS running on that thing

[@joaovarela4854]

Got a pc with 3080 ti and recently got an Ally for travelling, but I've been playing mostly on it, im so.sutpirsed with it, if the future of gaming is integrated graphics , I'm on board, runs cheaper too 😅

[@devilz5236]

this was exactly the build i was planning to do

[@alexmills1329]

Man strix apu’s are going to be sick if this is the baseline they are improving upon.

[@tomkocur]

Strix APUs? How exactly will that work? Asus makes motherboards or GPUs, they don't make or improve APUs. Am I missing something here?

[@alexmills1329]

@@tomkocur AMD has their next gen of APU’s coming out inside of a year called strixpoint and a Strix ‘halo’ tier with 16 CU or 40 CU depending on which chip you’re talking about. The 40 CU is for laptops and not handhelds so it might see some launch in a Minisforum style small pc.

[@tomkocur]

@@alexmills1329 thank you for explanation! Mono doesn't seem like something you wouldn't be able to squeeze out of 8700G with some performance tuning and higher PPT limit. Halo, on the other hand, isn't something you'd be able to do on AM5. 40CUs, though, sound brutal - that's PS5 level, but newer architecture.

[@farazsworkshop]

that's a lot of performance for 100w. clearly this is the future, given the current trend of absolute juicers and heater/computing setups.

[@testvideo44]

Not blown away with the performance tbh, I was expecting more.

[@eloikmorissette8897]

You can only gain so much performance using the 780m igpu for the second generation in a row... Advertising at its best since the only stronger component over the 7900hs (although a mobile chip) is the cpu side of the APU

[@kevincampbell989]

Such a cool little box. Chuck steam OS on it and it's basically a console.

[@LukesLewis]

Thank you for this 👏

[@UKKN516]

This thing is a beast!

[@Simone-k3p]

SAVING THIS BUILD

[@seppomuppit]

Feels like my i5 4570 SFF with a 1050 Ti gets better performance for 25% of the price and same form factor.

[@Anhedonis]

Nice! Next challenge: an ITX SFF passive (or at least silent) build.

[@vladimirnovakovic3495]

The cost of such mini pc is outrageous.

[@Gamingandlorewithricky]

This is a true console killer, love this small form factor pc’s.

[@tomkocur]

Well, it's just not. 8700G performance isn''t even on Series S level, while the APU on its own costs like 50% more (feb 2, EU - Series S 512GB retails for 229EUR, 8700G retails for 354.90EUR in the same shop).

[@ServentofTheMostMerciful]

no

[@jonevansauthor]

I'm hearing a lot of negativity about this chip based on how many PCI lanes are available. My expectation is that you'd get this and setup a machine that's good for a future upgrade with a decent graphics card. People have been implying that adding a higher power card later wouldn't work because you wouldn't have the bandwidth. Is that true or could you run a 4090 with this chip and not be missing out?

[@Bob_Smith19]

You don’t buy this and then a GPU. You buy a desktop CPU and a cheap GPU and upgrade later. You are limiting yourself w/ an APU

[@gruiadevil]

The 8 PCIe lanes matter when you're going past your VRAM limit and have to use system RAM. A computer restricted to 8 PCIe lanes on a 3070, while playing Hogwarts in 4K Ultra, is going to be slower than a regular 16PCIe lanes one. But. The stutters are still going to be there, in that scenario. The experience is still going to be bad, but it's going to be less bad on 16 lanes. The 4090 doesn't suffer from these problems. It never runs out of VRAM. There's no game that can push past 24Gb of VRAM. So ... in games, it will have the same performance.

[@dettro69]

7:40 why when you talk about friezes, you don’t show them on the frametime graph

[@nickwinters987]

Thank you for finally remembering these form factor cases lol I actually just got back my original ISK-110 custom build lol it was an a8-7600 with a 120mm cooler master low profile heatsink I had to mod the side mesh for and also had to use a 150w pico psu lol I also integrated a usb tv tuner and an Xbox 360 controller wireless receiver all built into the isk-110 lol before the first Bluetooth Xbox controller lol along with an SSD and a 2tb ;) lol it was one heck of a build back in the day and is now basically worthless because of the fm2+ platform even though it has one heck of a motherboard still lol

[@komangsanjaya6]

I'm gonna pick this chip this year!

[@devinmurray5280]

Your videos inspired me to do a Ryzen 7700 (not the X as the 3% loss isn’t worth the 75% more peak power draw) and 4060 build (over a 8700g). I’m just waiting on the case from AliExpress. Fantastic emulation machine but also 1080p ultra for the living room.

[@yanushkowalsky1402]

Is the 4060 low profile?

[@devinmurray5280]

@@yanushkowalsky1402 they currently yes make two low profile 4060s.

[@sethdou10]

The 8700g is basically same as 7840hs, so go directly buy a mini pc based on 7840hs maybe a better choice.

[@prefontaine2790]

I want to see this with water-cooling, overclocking, & the fastest ram possible. I know someone just did 10,400 mhz ram with this chip, but they didn't release gaming benchmarks at that speed.

[@Nathan-fj1tt]

This will be great when I goes on sale 😄

[@RichardSanchez137]

That indent on the left side is a misstep as that could be for cord control. Also the front USB and audio should be modular or honestly removed a a USB 3.1 hub can get the job done.

[@ddouglas3687]

So sweet. Tnx for showing this. 👍

[@Ladioz]

Your monitor is incredibly smooth. Im shocked

[@ThomasKoelln]

I really want ur AMD logo wallpaper, where can I get it?

[@rpereirasc]

Tambem queria

[@numpolSakuyungyuencharoen]

I hope in next gen of APU for AMD , They will add Zen X C core and increase GPU performance in same level with RTX 3050

[@EinSwitzer]

check the VRM and mobo vrm for ram are not overheating and cycling to throttle / then the gpu on cpu die will start ai improving EVERYTHING

[@sebbosebbo9794]

the prices included on the parts and some Blender LTS & newest builds tests would be cool too .. thx...

[@MeatNinja]

Prices change all the time and vary wildly based on region

[@hEXordo]

wish we had this case + the ability to throw a 120mm aio along with a pair of 80mm fans on the top

[@Nunbawon]

@ETA Prime - YOU FORGOT TO SET THE UMA FRAME BUFFER SIZE IN BIOS! YOU HAVE TO DO THIS TO GET BEST PERFORMANCE ON ANY APU !

[@andrewbrooks2001]

This is very tempting, but I am going to wait for the Halo Strix Point apu with 40 cu igpu.

[@tofu_golem]

I saw the reviews. This thing is garbage for gaming, but I love the idea of a small form factor overkill office computer. The thing I most want out of a home built office computer is longevity, and I'm betting I could get more of that out of this APU.

[@TheBillyTalon]

Would be interesting to see some undervolt + gpu overclock and ram overclock to see what kind of performance is possible.

[@Mr4real0316]

Need this in a handheld.

[@LCJammer]

lol no. this thing is basically a rebranded desktop ryzen 7700 non x with 780m graphics.

[@Bob_Smith19]

It’s already in handhelds. It’s the 7000 series in a desktop CPU. 7940HS has same core count and 780M GPU.

[@LCJammer]

@@Bob_Smith19 whats in handhelds ? because the 7940hs is meant for laptops and mini pc.

[@PhyrexJ]

Guess what they used in the handhelds... AMD Z1 is Zen 4, like used in the ROG Ally@@LCJammer

[@LCJammer]

@@PhyrexJ well yeah they're all zen 4 chips and in the same family. the z1 extreme is pretty much a 7840u.

[@aboudaymane8195]

Niiiiiiice i love to see it in 1L form factor like lenovo tiny thinkcentre

[@ericliume]

We have Minisforum UM790 Pro or UM780 Pro.

[@JamieStuff]

How about a side by side comparison between the 8700G SFF build and one of the tiny 7940HS systems?

[@ashwinparthiban4561]

Almost three up when I heard the 200W psu. Please upgrade for way more performance

[@DFX2KX]

not too bad for a HTPC/Server that you can do light gaming on, either. And that chip's iGPu can still be useful even with an Nvidia dGPU in Linux. my 1080ti does not seem to like encoding in HVEC, which would make ALVR work well (on top of the frame boost from offloadng encoding)

[@quafee]

Would love if you made a pcpartpicker list with these parts.

[@extrofovyt]

can not wait to see ryzen 5700g vs 8700g

[@RobloxianX]

The fact that in 6 months the fastest iGPU went from the speed of a GTX 1650 to an RTX 3050 is absolutely insane. At this rate, we will be at RTX 3070/4060 Ti speed iGPUs by Core Ultra 300/Ryzen AI 400. Forcing Nvidia to release us a good 5070, or the sub $500 GPU market is gone. Especially if Intel gets their Arc 140V iGPU on Arrow Lake.

[@FirstLookandMore_Gaming]

Nice Video !! Can u tell me which parts u bought for that build ? I know u show them but a list would be better,to build it,too :)

[@davefroman4700]

I have to wonder if they do not have the memory scaling working properly on these chips ETA. Look how little VRam usage is being reported.

[@m_R7P]

i got the tecware phantom L & i really enjoy it so i might try the phantom elite

[@hanzoking5703]

Please include "3dmark wildlife extreme" in your next benchmark.

[@turboimport95]

I got this same mobo with my 7800x3d, i would love to run a small case like this, but got case a little bigger, that barely can fit a trinity 4080. might do another build using a case like this and use my current case as external gpu enclosure.

[@Tommy_The_Gun]

I do wonder what kind of GPU performance would be the equivalent of this APU. I also do wonder if it would be possible to use a dedicated low-end GPU that does not require additional power and if that would be faster. And of course - it is a matter of time for Minis Forum to release a new Mobo with this CPU/APU.

[@zilverman7820]

1650 is better than the igpu so somewhere betweek 1050 ti - 1650. The only problem with this apu is the cost of the platform you need a faster ram which is expensive. I think am4 like r5 5600x with rx6600 or rtx 3060 is a better choice.

[@moleyboy9650]

It seems similiar in speed to my 2400g and 1050 ti set up.

[@ACrazyNoob]

really would love to see amd in the future make a apu that has say 6 cores with hypethreading and 20 cu's of zen 3 or above, less cpu cores to dedicate more power to the gpu, could easily be a 1080p high 60fps machine! can only dream haha

[@plsbanhackers9031]

I love this so much

[@stormpegasisfan]

That’s impressive!

[@drags666]

Video starts at 2:00

[@patrol2omega]

I had to sell my gaming PC on January 2024 so I'm now looking for a new build and the Ryzen 7 8700g might be my go to 😃

[@BravoSixGoingDark]

Did you went with the Ryzen 7 8700g in the end? Did you also paired it with a dGPU?

[@patrol2omega]

@@BravoSixGoingDark I haven't buy anything yet as Ryzen 9000 are coming out soon. For now I'm using a humble laptop for work with a Ryzen 7730u to play The First Descendant and it works 🤣

[@patrol2omega]

@@BravoSixGoingDark I have heavy expenses during this year so I just want to save money and go for the 8700g eventually and I've research that it can also be paired with a GPU which is amazing for a distant future

[@BravoSixGoingDark]

@@patrol2omega In a similar situation as yours, my motherboard, MSI Z97 Gaming 5 purchased in Dec 2014, the first 2 PCIE lanes (x16 and x8) became unusable last week. Inserting a dGPU will cause freezes, crashes, no signal to monitor etc. I can only use my i7 4790k's integrated graphics HD 4600 via HDMI port on the motherboard for now.

[@patrol2omega]

@@BravoSixGoingDark I'm impressed with your case . If it serves any good AMD builds are amazing, as I used to have a Ryzen 5600x + RX 5700XT +32GB RAM + M2 for gaming at 1080p 144hz and I could play everything at max resolution. Today I want to save on energy consumption components as much as possible