The Ultimate WARFRAME Helminth Ability TIER LIST 2024!

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

Which one is your Top Helminth Ability?

[@cory6266]

It's pronounced meta-STAY-sis.

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

Thank you :D

[@SimplyShadow-xd8yi]

ima have to go with either nourish or terrify no doubt

[@CheesyRacc]

I genuinely love love love warcry. It was the first ever helminth ability i got, and i subsumed it onto kullervo, its just so good. Armor, attack speed? whats next, slowing down enemies so you can melee them better? Wait, yes?

[@thatrandomguy3884]

One of my top is very situational, voracious metastasis, specifically on hildryn, on hildryn it just drains part of your shields, but it also multiplies how much energy it gives to allies equal to how much shields you give up

[@KyuubiNaruto41]

Perspicacity. I actually ran into a scenario that it would help. Sortie and Nightmare missions don't let you use ciphers. Rescue Sorties automatically trigger the alarm when entering. On Lua the time you have is very short if you don't know the shortcuts, didn't bring Override, slow at hacking, and bad at guessing the correct one.

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

Wow, this is definitely niche, but I didn't think about that. Thank you for the heads up! In this scenario nit can truly make a difference :D

[@DragonKing-jz7pn]

I honestly dont like the narmer hacking since it highly screws with your brain inverting the control through half of the panel🤢 perspicacity makes that simple asf

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

Someone else also mentioned Narmer Hacking... Maybe I am simply blind on that eye because to me it comes quite naturally. But hey, obviously it's not as simple then ;)

[@DragonKing-jz7pn]

@@MHBlacky_ENG im normally not as fast to think on the narmer hacking even the corpus kinda screws with me as well, but we all hav our likes and dislikes

[@sopaipillaman7415]

​@@MHBlacky_ENG in my opinion it has some uses like for example when i was farming ivara or maybe harrow from the kuva fortress that instant hack may help you in some cases if you don't have or you don't want to run ciphers but that what it comes to my mind with that skill, have a nice day Btw i love your videos i've learned a lot since i got back to the game recently =)

[@darthplagueis13]

Parasitic Armour actually has a niche. Exactly one. And that's Rhino. Rhino has pretty good shields base and the strength of his Iron Skin is based on his armour value. So what you can do is build a ton of shields, convert them into parasitic armour and then activate Iron Skin in order to get an unholy amount of Overguard. Niche, but not useless.

[@caioaugustosaraivacesare9784]

I have such build btw, I don’t play with rhino a ton but parasitic armor is nice on him

[@Ellyark]

rhino is one of my most used frames and although it’s funny to see big number realistically this ability isn’t doing much for him

[@lukasbaize109]

Him being one of 2 frames (3 if you count Garuda) that can have Roar and Nourish at the same time makes other choices so lackluster in comparison. It is a cool interaction though

[@jag1460]

My main n sadly yeah. He really just needs to be able to recast without augment then he can cast them do the 12 step program and then recast for insane amounts.

[@rift7609]

Sadly you can just do it with his one charge augment anyways

[@-Nichollas-]

Honestly Perspicacity is just SO GOOD to speedrun Spy Archon Hunt missions. You can't use ciphers, you always have that weird console minigame (not saying it's impossible, it's just bad to use the mouse to aim it) and you can't fail any of the consoles. I have a specialized Wukong with Perspicacity JUST for that mission, pair it with the Untraceable mod and I always finish those missions in about 3min

[@thecreator126]

I agree my dude. Definitely my fav warframe and helminth for Spy/Rescue. Just cast Perspicacity and cloud walk from console to console.

[@donvimma367]

I started using Wukong specifically for such purposes. Particularly when I wanted to ultra-speedrun spy missions. I was bad with Ivara and was farming for Rime Rounds. I used Perspicacity on him and Loki and they simplified so the Archon Hunts too. Great use.

[@kalihax2408]

That archon hack minigame always messes with my brain even tho I did it so many times already

[@AnthanKrufix]

Fun fact: You can attach Ivara's Stealth Arrow to sentinels if you line up the shot just right. And now the stealth bubble follows you around.

[@ascrassin]

sadly it seems to have been fixed. and you can't do it anymore.

[@Purturtur]

@@ascrassin It still works, I use it all the time on my Ivara, just have to do it while aim gliding.

[@judgement7279]

@@ascrassin no, look at youtube guide from H_ex its literally the best surv ability from helminth

[@LetMeEatIt]

Funner fact: Grendel can use the ability to hit a foe, and then eat them. The arrow lasts as long as the enemy in his stomach does.

[@SuperShesh2]

Another person ignoring that titania's spellbind gives total status immunity scaling off duration ALONGSIDE its crowd control ability. Subsume it on any supportive warframe that already does duration like gara for splinter storm and you get damage reduction, status immunity for at least a minute, and a shield wall for any target. Total status immunity means anything from the eximus units does nothing, energy stealing knockdown, everything. In that way, its only competition is helminth hideous resistance, which has limited charges, is more expensive, and only affects yourself.

[@nator313]

Nezhas helminth can do the same but its more clunky, idk why but it mostly works but in some specific scenarios it doesnt. It isnt listed in the wiki either, but i run it sometimes with chroma cuz im too lazy to forma it more for primed surefooted. It gives u some speedboost too that its really nice.

[@trentawsome8118]

Total status immunity for you and allies scaling off duration, cc for enemies scaling off range, and with the augment you can even get energy back. I feel this ability was totally downplayed in this video.

[@noahboddie3482]

@@trentawsome8118 Yeah I was just about to mention the energy regen, which also scales off of strength as well

[@SuperShesh2]

@@nator313 its cause it's when you are standing/walking on the fire caused by it, which realistically doesn't happen *that* often unless everyone is aware of it/actively using it. More frequently people are jumping around who knows where far away. And I don't know how that interacts with flames in the air from bullet jumping. It also only lasts 20 seconds compared to the 35-40 seconds of spellbind (with similar 200% duration), which just follows who you cast on.

[@nator313]

@@SuperShesh2 ooooh thats why hahahahahah ty for the reply :)

[@chriscooper1449]

Molt is always underrated even without the augment. Status cleanse on those frames you don't want to find a slot for Rolling Guard but have a useless skill to subsume over plus a decent movement speed buff if you're building for strength+duration. It's more of a utility/niche choice but on certain builds its fantastic

[@Jefffrrry]

Usually if you want a status cleanse on demand, you rather take Pillage, besides some niche uses or to just go faster.

[@CephalonBread]

molt gauss my goat

[@lukasbaize109]

I think it's the best shield gate ability in the game. Instant, no casting animation, and cleanses status. Subsume over Banshee's 4 and all of a sudden she can actually survive higher levels.

[@hallowfiended]

@@chriscooper1449 It's amazing on Dagath specifically. She doesn't necessarily need the Pillage armorstrip, the speed bonus is pretty noice on a frame that likes being positioned well, it is a status cleanse and it has no cast animation so it's ideal for quick shieldgate fill

[@robotic-race]

Why dont you show an actual list?

[@ragedits_]

To get people to watch the video

[@robotic-race]

@ragedits_ see the thing is i already know what all of these do and I'm more interested in where he rates them. The intended audience however probably don't know what half or more of the helminth abilities do. Great format for newer players but annoying for experienced ones

[@ragedits_]

@@robotic-race True

[@Van1ki]

Because people will just skip to the end of the video

[@blob643]

Important note about Mark For Death, It's not just the damage, it also includes status proc. For example you attack marked enemy and you proc radiation and slash, all enemy in the radius not only get damaged, but also gets radiated and suffer the Slash DOT. this in my opinion is a great niche helmith to give to warframes that lacks any room clearing abilities like Loki. I kinda want DE to allow you to mark multiple enemies

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

Thank you for adding this. Makes it even better :D

[@Cat--Gamer]

Would be such a nice qol if we could mark more, specially with how kill heavy everything is currently.

[@kb0t177]

Breach surge is better in almost all situations.It doesn't spread statuses but it has crazy damage multipler and it one shot groups of enemies.Mark can still be good for spreading one shotting slash dot bur mecha set on kubrow is the same ability but better.Mark is not bad ability on it's own but breach surge and kubrow does all of what mark does but better

[@blob643]

@@kb0t177 Counter Arguments >I never said Mark for death is S tier, I said it's a great niche helmith ability to allow none nuking frames to have an option of nuking a room. >You need to sacrifice a wisp to get breach surge while you only need to level your helmith to get Mark for death (this isn't so bad if you have time to farm for another wisp) >As for Kubrows.... We are talking about Helmith abilities here, and you need to built a specific mod set for that and at full set the mecha set for kubrow has a 15 second cooldown which can be lowered by manifold bond., which i think is not equipable by beast pets. Here's the difference kubrows has a cooldown and you need to kill the enemy (Which can spread MORE status), MFD don't have a cooldown and you get to choose when and who to mark (Meaning you have more control) >While breach surge is certainly better most of the time FOR nuking purposes, that doesn't mean Mark for Death should be ignored. Seriously, MFD is B tier (Meaning it's a good specialized skill) while BS is S tier >Both are similar that they spread damage but the way they do it is different. Breach surge is a more consistent way of spreading damage since you are basically making every enemy a spark generator each having a higher damage multiplier but its slower as the sparks need to travel first. Mark for death is weaker at its damage multiplier but its instant at spreading damage and status which can be a life saver since sometimes you need damage and status now. >Mark for death is flexible as you can utilize it to spread status not as a way to damage but to weaken or CC such as Viral, cold and radiation making it still viable for low strength build. You can certainly build a pet for this but it doesn't hurt to have another way to spread status >I think Mark for death is still underperforming, hence why I said I want DE would allow us to mark multiple enemies giving us a chance for a domino effect of damage and status >Another one for the Kubrow, what if I want a sentinel over a kubrow >Finally, Warframe is a game where even in Steel path, having a decent well informed build will be make it a cake walk even without the use of helmith, most players won't consistently play missions where enemies are lvl 200+ and even if you want to, playing in a party makes that easier. Just choose which one is more fun to you, no need to sweat in the META Just in case you want to fight for the honor of breach surge. I already told you it's better but I just want to highlight the differences and why you might prefer MFD over BS

[@eduardoperi9897]

Hey, working on a loki sinergy for this that will probably help him room nuke. Get a gas sniper, cast damage decoy and m4d on an enemy (damage decoy increases health beyond m4d damage cap since the decoy gets its max health from like 15% health of every enemy in a 15 meter radius) afterwards kill the Target w a gas proc and watch all of the gas status overlap and spread.

[@sephylon2499]

Master's summons can be used to put the moa behind walls to allow it to hack consoles w/o having to do mechanics to open the door. Lua spy comes to mind, my clan mate pulls off fast runs there by using master's summons to get past alot of the tile. Dark verse and aqua blades can be used on nekros since it can slice up enemies, doubling the bodies nekros can dessicate, freeing his weapon slot

[@sephylon2499]

Banish+rift haven on a volt for defection/cetus bounty makes any npcs invincible to all non skill damage while constantly healing them for a large chunk of their health, while making them go zoom. A stretch and extremely niche, but a use. Banshee can also use it to have banish+silence to make any defense target in arbys/archon hunts basically invincible. Side note for khora's ensnare, it works on demolishers.

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

Hahaha gotta say, I did not know about this whole Moa thing xD

[@benw7616]

Is there a video showing off the moa wall hack?

[@Zelsius00]

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[@void2258]

I am not sure why you would use your helminth slot for gore chance instead of just Amalgam Ripkas.

[@pocketdust2450]

Silence is even more special than only affecting Acolytes, it also affects enemies with special abilities such as Eximus units and enemies with Overguard from Bolstered Belligerents in Deep Archimedia, disabling all of their abilities, including frozen bubbles, magnetic puddles and shield auras. It also has an insanely long duration. It's a must-run on my Zephyr, I'd put it as S tier solely for the fact that no other ability can shut down enemy abilities

[@chronicler22]

let's not forget how beneficial Silence and it's augment is for ranking. All that finisher damage in an exterminate can shoot something up straight to max if abused. Silence is also range bases, so you can retrigger the stagger by waffling about and reintroducing the effect to an enemy.

[@josepholson324]

I combo silence on ash for the savage silence augment to make ash's 4 deal more damage

[@thedoomslayer5863]

​@@chronicler22you can fast level guns with it? What about frames?

[@acatnamedcade9106]

@@thedoomslayer5863 both, so long as you subsume silence over the first ability. the stealth kill multiplier for affinity is easily cheesed with this augment

[@LDDim]

45:23 Quiver works wonders in survival endurance runs, really niche but decent at it ! It's super chill on Saryn and Xaku, you go invisible and from there it's pretty much the lowest input possible for SP you could come up with but you'd have to use Zenurik to manage energy or glaxion/grimoire could work as well nowadays

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

Agreed. If you want stealth on a non stealth Frame then Quiver can deliver this ;)

[@d.v.2796]

I feel just using shade and that companions ghost perk goes better than that modified ivaras quiver.

[@Mortenthiar]

You missed something with voracious metastasis. On Garuda & Hildryn you can grant free infinite energy given how bloodletting and her shields used as energy works.

[@hallowfiended]

Yeah but you could just use Molt Reconstruct and save the Helminth slot for something more useful

[@myramedchan4775]

I use gloom on Garuda as her ult completely fills her health on cast while in gloom and the slow gives her time to kill😊

[@Mortenthiar]

@@hallowfiended That does not result in giving infinite energy to your squadmates. You become one of the best supports with this as Hildryn can charge everyone and give shields and armor strip a room. For Garuda your bloodletting gives you plenty of energy and the healing of voracious metastasis can keep up with the damage. So not only are you one of the best dps frames in the game you also charge the squad with energy and maybe health with blood altar.

[@rainingpizza6586]

Agreed. VM in D tier is just an uninformed take. infused on Hildryn she becomes the highest yield energy support in the game, and I honestly don't think it's close. Maybe Styanax with Nourish on high strength? But honestly probably not. Squadmates channeling also shuts that down. VM is also completely accessible because you don't need enemies to do it like EV Trin or Harrow. You can just cast it and = energy.

[@plague_plays]

I use rebuild Shields for infested missions

[@Demon-cleaver]

I have to strongly dissagree about Vaubans Tesla Nervos. It actually has unique applications for it. First off, you can throw up to 4 grenades for the price of one by simply holding the ability key a bit. But why would you want 4 grenades running around? Simple. They have aggro manipulation. If an enemy is within a certain radius of a grenade and you are outside the radius of the aggro, the enemy would start aiming at it... to no effect however course it's a non-damageable entity. Moreover, the electric status and damage are useful for Archon Stretch. Over time, the energy you get passively from the grenades is higher than the casting time and energy cost. Lastly, the Tesla Nervos have an augment that allows the grenades to store all damage that the enemy they are attached to receives and then discharge said damage in a small AoE. It works similar to Acid Shells on the Sobek and effects similar to it. All in all, this is a utility ability that is not S rank by any means but with enough "there" there to not be placed in D rank. Thank you for coming to my TedTalk.

[@Sunnyboy_684]

5:30 chifer?

[@brachioboy]

Im not sure if this was already mentioned but one key difference between Terrify and Tharos Strike is that the latter is able to armor strip bosses (even event bosses) and acolytes. As far as I know, I've never gotten the same results with terrify. So for boss runs/Assassination missions, I opt for Tharos Strike over Terrify.

[@noahboddie3482]

Bosses and accolytes can't be stripped yeah

[@bastabey2652]

I agree... I used Tharos Strike to strip accolytes and bosses.. it strips even Eximus who are immune to terrify.. and TS gives you health and shield

[@kb0t177]

also tharos strike strip shields that can be useful on corpus disruption or farming guy with granum coins

[@OrangeCreamsicle]

cc immune enemies resist the spook and so they don't get stripped which is the caveat for terrify

[@megagrowlithe]

@@OrangeCreamsicle No, Terrify still strips eximus units even if they're not feared. Always has.

[@Mortenthiar]

Yareli's aqua blades are good on grendel and limbo for projectiles for meatball man in meatball form. For limbo he gets to attack enemies on the other side of the rift plane during particularly volatile situations.

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

Oh, didn't think about this on Limbo... Thank you for sharing ;)

[@hallowfiended]

Mind Control is good on one specific Revenant build that wants to maximize the damage bonus from Thrall Pact. You first let an enemy get stunned with Mesmer Skin, hit them with viral/rad, then you cast Mindcon, then headshot them as much as you can, and finally enthrall. You get a superbuffed, invincible thrall. It might not be meta but it's fun.

[@Discount_ed]

I don't think it was said, so I'll say it here, Oberon's smite can be used as a support ability with his augment. Giving the team within his radius free radiation to all their weapons for I think 30-40 second when you hold cast the ability. It's a better use of the ability than trying to use it offensively in high levels

[@bludde3]

That's nice indeed, but at that point just run Roar as it scales like faction mods and doesn't cost a mod slot for augments

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

You're right, the Augment is quite good ^-^ Wouldn't change the rating in my opinion, but I agree that I could've mentioned it ;)

[@void2258]

@@bludde3 I tend to use Roar's augment for the range increase.

[@Discount_ed]

@@MHBlacky_ENG I'm fine with it rating staying the same, it's still a C tier ability even with the augment. DE, please buff my goat frame 😭

[@karlthestoner3234]

Bros got green banshee

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

I mean who better to run Neon Green Banshee than the Neon green KZbinr :P

[@someonewhoseesthings]

Empower is good for hitting thresholds and bypassing the disadvantages of Corrupted Mods. For example, Mag can get a full armor strip from her #4 Augment if she gets to 134% Ability Strength. The Overextended mod is -60% Ability Strength, so 100 - 60 + 50 = 90%. Then you can get to >133% with more options like Intensify (+30%) and a TF Crimson Archon Shard (+15%). Not as useful as the new Precision Intensify mod (+90% on 4th ability), but with Empower you can also strengthen Mag's death bubble. It's niche, but there are uses where it frees up Mod/Arcane space.

[@Nicolas_GE]

it's also good for warframe that have long duration or permanant abilities such as wisp's motes that only need to benifit from empower once

[@Laireso]

Empower is the last possible strength buff to consider. Before it you'd add archon shards, kitgun, aura mod, umbral intensify. In a world where you can reach +400% str without Empowered it loses it's strength and if you minmax strength already, why would you not pick a helminth that benefits it like Pillage or Roar? It's a meme for people that want to see a number to higher. The closest to useful it gets is for Switchva where you are Speedva by default then you pull enough strength out of your ass that you fully slow enemies, but it requires so many steps and haven't found a mode where it would be useful and Nova desperately needs helminth to address one of her many shortcomings like lack of damage and survivability.

[@codymills6429]

Not many people seem to be aware that you can tap pillage when it's out to bring shields back instantly if you need them quick,

[@ffsbryden6577]

Yeah i just realised that while doing a sp survival using harrow with pillage subsumed onto condemn. Insane instant overshield. Would highly recommend using Pillage on Harrow

[@riolic]

Empower - Because of the way wisp's buffs snapshot to the highest mote you have been effected by, and can be refreshed by lower-strength motes you can use it to min-max wisp buffs which have numerous situations where it is very useful. Long endurance runs where you have other frames to carry the damage, some events.

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

Thank you for the input! Didn't see this one ;)

[@Zelsius00]

Still not that useful on Wisp imo, I would rather have Gloom for a defensive build, slowing enemies to a crawl around you so they do 20x less damage, or Roar for an offensive build giving your whole squad 100%+ multiplicative damage, double-dipping for DoTs, for faster nuking. Best use of Empower that comes to mind is a hybrid Speed/Slow Nova, running around 50% STR for speeding the enemies a bit, with Madurai and Empower. If an "Oh Sh!t" situation happens, you double sling with operator and cast Empower, and now your Molecular prime has 140% STR for almost max slow on enemies. Still very niche, but it can be useful on certain scenarios, like doing Lich/Sister defense missions, speeding them a bit, and if Lich/Sis spawns, swap to slow to help with killing them or controlling enemies while you deal with them.

[@GAMEPRO24X]

i stopped using it for a while when i got nourish, it gives you viral damage, energy bonus and it can be applied to team mates. far better than the small str bonus to the motes youd recieve

[@vastoa]

silence is clearly S tier, it trivializes anything in the game. silence disables any enemy ability you can think of, so any enemy becomes a "normal" enemy. on top of that the enemies are also confused and don't target you as much. it comes with high base duration and range, making it extremely viable on any frame.

[@Cthalpa]

I have a use case for Empower, and it's one SPECIFIC case. Plague star farming with Razorwing Blitz titania. Empower can freely take her 3 slot, and you keep the 50% strength the entire time you're in razorwing and titania is VERY good at free farming the event very quickly

[@ShadeAKAhayate]

Why not use Nourish? These 50% seem additive to already built up Strength which isn't that much, while Nourish both gets bonus viral (which should theoretically be equal or more), viral stacks (which, with her rate of fire, stacks up instantly) and even more energy pickup (Energize + Nourish do wonders in this otherwise very energy dry frame).

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

You were surely cooking right there :O

[@Cthalpa]

@@ShadeAKAhayate the mobs at plague star don't take much from the added viral, and you have to come out of razor wing to cast it, whereas empower is in effect the entire time you stay in razorwing

[@localwizard5316]

I use empower for a switchva nova build. Speedva to make the hemocyte walk out of the boil faster, hit empower, slow it down when it's weak points are open

[@ShadeAKAhayate]

@@Cthalpa You can cast Nourish while in Razorwing mode :) But I get that some resistances can screw the math with damage increase.

[@DaArtsi]

Tesla Nervos is actually pretty good if you have the augment with it, any damage you dealt gets absorb by the roller then burst out electricity damage by the damage you dealt to that enemy, so it's kinda like breach surge so yea maybe C-tier at least... But it also works with the archon mod too

[@santiagoestreme8209]

I agree

[@Fixti0n]

Here is a thing with Well of Life, its the only ability in the game that locks down a target, makes it immortal, and still count as a hit when you hit the target. So far i have one use case for it, and that is concentrated arrow Ivara, but deam is it a good use case, fixes the one problem with Concentrated arrow, and that is your team mates.

[@void2258]

Dispensary is for when you want to give the whole team stuff, not just yourself like the other ones (nourish gives team a bit but diminished). And also when you don't want to have to meet a condition ie playing a bit passive (like defense missions).

[@ectotrix7399]

👍Yea because dispensary don't require any kill to get the stuff. You can't always get 60 kills a minute

[@Dima666Air]

Also - ammo pickup open unique playstyle - archgun You can summon it and play all mission with it

[@uramis00]

@@Dima666Air Thanks for mentioning the archgun. I thought it replenished it but never looked into it

[@matt-dw]

Reave is great not just for dealing damage but also for getting back up to full health and giving you an escape route if needed with 1 click when you're being swarmed with high-level enemies.

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

Right, I didn't think about that but sure, you can storm through a group of enemies like with Rhino's Charge :D

[@sula2315]

Mirage Reave discoball build. Its an old meme not even sure if it works anymore.

[@Nightmareblackop]

Defy is not just a armour ability it draws enemy fire and reflects it back at the end of the duration. Therefore on someone like Hildryn that can AOE 360 Armor and shiled strip if you refelct back all there damage u can nuke completely in an AOE

[@kancelas]

Smite has 2 niches. 1 as a demolisher killer even on Lvl cap SP, but only with Mag. 2 as a weapon primer, but this niche is less useful now that radiation mods are in-game.

[@marciodasilva6920]

Spectrorage with Vauban or Zephyr is afk gameplay. It works with Khora as well so I can't see why D. It increases energy drop rate and reduces the chance of your frame being targeted, solid A imo.

[@АлексейМакеев-з8к]

I wouldn't leave dislike because you don't know 1 build on Hildryn which use empower. But Volt best frame on open world bosses not only because of his shield but also giving very high radiation damage by augment on shock and newest faction also known for being weak to radiation.

[@bachduchuy6648]

sickening pulse use on citrine with 4 archon mod, hound with all the mix elements you just set 3 throw 1 everywhere press sickening everything die with 3 line of status effect on bar

[@CoyoteBongwater]

Blood Altar is pretty good on Mag thats kind of a niche build

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

How exactly does this build utilize it with Mag's kit? ;)

[@CoyoteBongwater]

@@MHBlacky_ENG It just keeps an enemy from dying so her magnetize can keep pulling enemies in for longer. + using the Nataruuk bow to create the zone of death in the middle. Of course Blood Altar still gives energy too, but I don't think thats the main use of it in the build.

[@CheesyRacc]

I use perspicacity on almost every one of my stealth frames. I use it on ivara to make narmer spy vaults a joke

[@maurymanna19]

Put it on speed wukong, it's like a million times better

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

Sure thing. As I said, if you feel you're better off with it then go for it ;)

[@suupala]

I use it with the Untraceable mod in my Parazon to turn invisible with every hack. Nice with Titania! Also my Mirage's Explosive Legerdemain build can stay permanently invisible on corpus tilesets, where the traps cause an alarm with every cast.

[@KR4TOS300]

Dante's dark verse has a very good synergy with Nezha's 4th ability augmented with Divine Retribution (especially with negative duration). Use your 4th, ennemies are impaled, you now have 1.5s to cast Dark verse, which is going to apply 20-40 slash statuses to each impaled ennemies. Statuses damages gets immediately applied as the 4th abbility ends. Very efficient room clearing. The difference between using nezha's 4th and Dante's 4th is that nezha's abbility goes through walls, no line of sight issues.

[@인형바보]

damn i thought the hacking skill is a must in all spy and rescue mission. I have my limbo designed just for spy/rescue mission cause ain't nobody got time for all those hacking stuffs.

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

Hahaha if you simply want to be done as fast a spossible, then sure, it would be a good one for a dedicated Spy Loadout ;)

[@leSmokySmoke]

A list of everything I noticed that you did not mention or consider, at least not verbaly in the video: - Smite: Similar to volts shock, was used in the past with its augment to give you a massive damage bonus for radiation. However, since the change to nourish happened which also offers many other benefits, this has become pretty much obsolete in pretty much all cases. So C is still right. - Dark Verse: This has become VERY important to exactly nezha with his new augment. Giving a warframe that basically was only tanky the ability to wipe entire rooms in just a second. In my oipinion this is now as mandatory on nezha as is pillage on gyre for example to complete the frame. And by your definition of rankings, this than should be a B tier ability. it is also still very good on its own. - Fire Blast: not at all comparable to thermal Sunder, it has one specific niche, an that is on Warframes that do not go for strength or even have a bit of negative strength and still want to strip armor. On these frames where you dont go strength and also dont need defenses and have a good energy economy with preferably a good amount of range, you can simply and completely strip armor with this ability in just two casts. Making it a decent alternative and better in some sitatuion than Terrify or even pillage for example. so it is also a B, even if it is rarely used. -Shooting Gallery: Even without the augment it is capable of jamming enemy guns, providing a good bit of defense by itself. also to note, while it IS a damage increasing ability it can actually be subsumed onto warframes that already have a damage increasing ability, which is usually not possible. So it can be used for some fun stuff. I would still only give it a B or even C tier regardless, as it is heavily outclassed by MANY things. - Wrathful Advance: While it definitly is a damage increasing ability, its uses are fairly limited aswell, because you also want high strength, high duration for it to be fun, and frames that go for these stats, like mirage or revenant for example, usually opt for an armor strip. so it nichely used on Atlas for fun or other stuff, but very rarely optimal sadly. Also Melee has the problem that sometimes Melee simply doesnt work. thats why S is definitly to high, A I would understand more. - War Cry: this is NOT just a damage increase, and the reason I made this comment in the first place. You failed to mention that it also provides a very respectable armor increase. so on any frame with already decent armor, this can become a very powerful subsume if you like melee and beeing a beastly health tank, especially on frames or weapons that you want to hit very fast with to beging with, such as condition overload builds to apply alot of statues quickly and spread them around. and ever since they finally added the accessability option to simply hold your melee button to continue attacking this has become a very nice ability to use on many frames. definitly a B tier ability, because it is still outclassed often, but very fun on some frames for a cool build if you can go full melee. - Pillage: Just wanted to mention that you can always just reclick it to end it early to gain shields quickly. negative duration obviously also helps. so yeah, easily a top 3 ability. - Fractured Blast and Lycanth's Hunt: its simply not an A tier ability. there are just many easier ways to get health orbs than sacrificing a whole ability just for that. not sure if this is even a C tier ability. Nothing wrong with just beeing honest. And lycanth's hunt is even worse in basically all cases.. just benefiting melee is bad and/or just benefiting headshots in 2024 (lol) is also bad. There is no case I know of where this would ever be used, its a D tier ability.. it isn't even that good on Voruna herself, and the healing is not enough by itself to keep her alive, and it only fixes your energy economy on her thanks to equilibrium and you only keep it becasue her 4 is even worse. - Spectrorage: it was used in the past as an energy source / CC. but yes, it is also very much obsolete now. Still more usable than the other two abilities above thanks to the augment. C tier. - Dispensary: What? just, what? Im sorry, but this is more than just controversal and just wrong in this case. you have fricking fractured blast in A tier and this in C, this is something that is just wrong information here. I also definitly not like dispensary for many reasons, but it is clearly the better ability than all of the above in this category, THIS is the one that makes all the others obsolete IF you even ever want something like this. if you want a good equilibrium set up, THIS is the ability. it gives 100 healtpoint healthorbs, giving you infinity energy by itself with eq, and yes I still think it is only a B tier, but I think many would even put it in A. You CAN NOT have the others higher than this. - Silence: it also has two niches in fact, both of which you did not mention. With its augment it give a GIGANTIC finisher damage bonus so it is insane on these builds that go for finisher kills such as ash, and even though ash is still very meh right now, it does help him do insane damage. It can also be used to quickly farm xp as it gives a stealth multiplier to xp earned, so there is a niche way to quickly solo farm xp with silence. - Wyrd Scythes: Also simply not an A tier ability. At best it is a C tier, but it is pretty much so useless that I have to mention it. You even said it yourself, panzer vulp exists, as do many other viral spreading things. - Decoy: it has completely changed and is now VERY good, it is pretty much a better resonator now. VERY niche still, but CAN be used. IF you want an ability to break enemy AI, THIS is the ability to do it. - Terrify: You always want to use it with the augment if you can, unless you can also very quickly nuke directly after using it. otherwise enemies running away can be pretty obnoxious if you want to kill enemies quickly. - Null Star: thanks to the changes to eclipse this is now D tier. never use it. - Qorvex' pillar thing: I dont think there is ever a warframe that has the luxuary to never need anything else to justify getting this. simply a D tier ability. - Spellbind: its used for the CC imunity onyourself, not the CC on enemies, but yes, very pointless as many other above, simply replaced by prime surefooted. - Elemental Ward: it is pretty hilarious in starchart on hildryn as electric, it lets you just walk around a nuke every enemy you come across. still bad otherwise though xd And even though you can just be more honest with some other abilities that simply feel bad or are so outclassed they arent used at all, such a trinity's and garuda's Everything else is pretty much on point and right. :) good video!

[@ascrassin]

you forgot 2 things quiver is the only helminth with stealth. silence shut down hability including acolytes negate pulse and lich/sister (only exception being nully bubbles)

[@leSmokySmoke]

@@ascrassin he did mention the silence acolyte thing. quiver beeing able to turn you invis is something I tried once and immediatly laughed at how bad it is. you basicall need to stand completely still in a tiny area. no thanks.

[@thatoneguy4584]

I would advocate for fractured blast being better than despensary as it does not rely on duration AND strength and can get more value from simply damaging multiple enemies. Sure dispensary is much less maintenance, but it also isn't hard to press a button every once and a while for some energy/health orbs. Otherwise, I agree with everything else.

[@leSmokySmoke]

@@thatoneguy4584 but it is reliant on strength, especially as a helminth it just has a 25% chance. So If you have negative strength this Chance becomes very Low, meaning you have to hit alot of enemies, and you NEED to Run equilibrium to Turn These into Energy. Now hitting alot of enemies might Not be that difficult in Steel path, but in many modes there arent that many enemies, and relying on enemies for your abilities to work isnt all that great in General. Also, personally, I dont want to Spam a single ability over and over again Just to get Energy Back. When I need such an ability, I use it to Spam Something Else, so I dont want to need to Spam 2 Things, because that means I cant Spam the Thing I want to Spam. All versions of fractured blast I have seen or heard about are just gimmicky and Not really that good. Especially since there isnt a single Warframe that actually want any of These anymore. But Sure, If you dont have duration but you do have range, and you have a free modslot for eq, then maybe yes. But it still isnt very good.

[@sichsdoh]

Quiver is actually a very good skill to have on any frame, cuz it's an invis, and we all know how invis is overpowered in this game. Also there is a silly tech, you can shoot an arrow on your sentinel, which in result will make you fully mobile and invisible

[@Rivachrono]

5k hours, I hate grineer console with every bit of my life. Passionately. That's why I have a Wukong loadout with Perspicacity solely for hacking console on sortie/archon/anything without cipher. Hail Perspicacity (I'm really just on potato pc and low fps, clicking on time is tricky)

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

Perfectly proves the point. If hacking (for whatever reason) is a hastle, absolutely go for Perspicacity ;)

[@MiserableLunacy]

Perspicacity is amazing if you're speedrunning spy missions just slap it on wukong and not only will you zoom through the map you will also zoom through the hacking minigames especially for people (like me) who have ignored warframe parts and now need to grind ivara parts this is great

[@nightfallalicorn4246]

Personally I'd move Terrify to A tier. The issue with Terrify is that it's a temporary debuff ability were enemy armour removal is temporary. This means demolisher regain their armour when their anti Warframe ability cancel bubbles activate. It doesn't work well in Disruption missions. This is why I think Tharros Strike would be more fitting for S tier with it being cheaper to use also.

[@Dima666Air]

Usualy if enemy loose armor they already dead even without any other debufs or damage vulnerability

[@kovanova9409]

Xata and sporothrix seems to act odd I've yet to test it but it seems like if you land a head shot the aoe procs void status on the heads of nearby enemies. I'm not sure if I'm correct but it seems to be very VERY strong.

[@toadstool7729]

Honestly, I use Perspicacity whenever I do any missions where I need to hack because I use Wukong, and I just slotted shards to give him max energy when spawning in, so I have the spare energy, and it keeps me from using resources on a bunch of ciphers in the long run. I know ciphers are still cheap, but I like saving where I can

[@jokwaxfriend]

You don't need an augment for Mesa's Shooting Gallery to jam guns, it does that on it's own. It's wild how every video that I've watched from you has some kind of mistake, even really basic ones like this.

[@jamesstead2256]

What do you expect he is a youtuber

[@adamin97]

Garudas blood altar can be used as immortalize for target that can extend chaining weapons or something like Mags magnetize that is more effective on life targets. Nishe but can be used like that. Simular to Xaku Entangle(i think) Have a nice day!

[@rekoshayninja3906]

You should check out Electricy Elemental Ward Hildryn. Increases her shields and reflects damage allowing you to just tank to a ridiculous amount and reflect the damage back to enemies making them end themselves. With her armour strip in the mix, it can easily kill enemies and it's just a really neat build.

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

Thank you! I will try this out onve the Armor changes are through ;)

[@Zelsius00]

Yeah! Also the thing with Elemental Ward on Hyldrin is that the shields you spend in casting any ability *do* count as damage, so any of your casts will proc it on a nearby enemy.

[@masterwizard6322]

I was internalizing everything great my guy until we hit Silence. Bruh why your Banshee looking like she about to steal Christmas?

[@masterwizard6322]

Oh and Elemental Ward is pretty good on Hildryn if you go electric.

[@kovanova9409]

Smite on trin plus it's augment for eidolon hunting is honestly really good if you already have smite.

[@PrimedLaundrySauce]

Just so you know, eclipse is in an odd state of bad since it is actually additive in damage to CO and the galvanized CO mods, making it extremely bad on any set ups using those mods which most weapons now a days do use. The only real use for the damage is for exodia contagion or glaive weapon set ups since those weapons still double dip on eclipse for some reason. The DR barely matters since we already have so many means of survivability that dedicating a subsume for it is kinda bad.

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

I see where you're coming from, but I gotta disagree with the DR. A ton of players (myself included) just love the convenience of being able to tank through Steel Path with any Frame of their choice. And for this, Eclipse is invaluable :D

[@nflhd8678]

@@MHBlacky_ENG Sorry but 75% DR is not useful by any means

[@PrimedLaundrySauce]

@@MHBlacky_ENG A lot of frames now easily have access to just using primed redirection with adaptation for roughly 95% DR at all times, then pair with arcane aegis to consistently recharge those shields and maintain that DR. The only frame I can see this being useful on is banshee since she has so much innate damage buffing capability but is also extremely squishy.

[@suupala]

Great list! There are a couple of things I'd like to add: Dispensary is the best choice for the many duration-based builds, that have no range at all, but need a lot of energy, health or ammo. 400% power strength doubles its output and makes it also better than Energized munitions with some loadouts. For this I think it should be rated at least B. Silence can be used for fast leveling, since you get stealth multipliers. It's also great to get finisher kills, that you can boost 300% with the augment - also works with Ash, for example. Since it's the very best choice for some builds, I'd rate it at least B. Null star probably belongs in C, but can be useful for very specific builds. You need to have at least 300% duration for maximum damage reduction, and you need to use the augment Neutron Star to be able to refresh it. The augment gives the stars heat status, allows for a bit of shield gating, and using it to pop crates. If you infuse Eclipse on Nova, you can combine it with the Null Star for double protection and never die. Cold Elemental Ward has a special function, that works quite well in protecting you from and reflecting back enemy projectiles in high level content, while not needing range in your build. Maybe consider B-tier? There is one specific build with Quiver I've used to cheese many MR tests, Liches, Acolytes and SP Circuit runs: Mesa the invisible turret. You can make yourself permanently invisible, while using energy packs, operator and other abilities, just killing everyone on sight without them ever fighting back. For this use it's a clear A tier for me.

[@anvilheaded]

Quiver lets you give any frame permanent stealth. Combine it with shade and you aren't stuck in one place. It's not as versatile as ash or octavia but it can still be pretty useful, especially in modes like excavation or defense

[@noahboddie3482]

Spectrarage is more of a C, maybe B-- I'd say personally. if you don't have a frame that either A ccs enemies into an area or deactivates them in it or B something that just does massive nuking before they can even get in range to kill it, its very useless. But on frames like vauban where the only thing that could destroy it is an eximus unit or nullifier it becomes very easy to maintain. I kinda just drop most of my defensive abilities in conjunction with something to shoot my shields back up because it becomes that easy to maintain. It's nice on qorvex but its definitely a lot more rough. It doesn't just deactivate those within the area, that being said, with a max range its a soft grouping tool and turns a deceptively large amount of the field into an energy drop zone, as the lure zone is ALSO counted for the orb drop chance, not just the center. I've not had it work very often outside of frames like Vauban, Khora, or Qorvex, as without some form of CC and/or high range, it's really not that good. All this being said, if you already are doing range, and you do have the CC, it's exceptional and nothing else quite does the job like it. But if not it's far below niche

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

Thank you for sharing! :D I can see that. If you go for range anyway and therefore don't have to mod for it specifically, then that's a ccase where I could imagine it being useful as well. Especially if you run low Strength and therefore can't go Nourish ;)

[@noahboddie3482]

@@MHBlacky_ENG Yeah 9 times out of 10 nourish is def better, specially on frames like vauban who can use archon stretch, or characters who can slot equilibrium effectively. Not to mention, viral is always a banger

[@Godly_Chair]

Imagine sickening pulse with the blast rework coming 💀💀💀

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

Ooooooo

[@RedVanquish]

Tharros Strike will always be my go-to ability as an Excalibur main. As my focus is aggro and being in the enemy's face. It works for stripping armor, reducing or completely depleting shields and heals you for each target hit. Which if you also use the arcane Molt Reconstruct and you use Tharros Strike can nearly give you a full heal in most circumstances. Great CC, great boss crippler and great heal. Perfect for the user who likes cramming Skanas in the enemy's abdomen. As well Tharros Strike has a tendency to work more on enemies where Terrify Armor Strip does not. If Terrify does not strip, try Tharros Strike.

[@kurokokoro8472]

regarding spectroage it is very good with zephyr.. you gotta try it

[@Zelsius00]

Tried it and ended up switching to dispensary with Equilibrium, as you get instant energy returns without the need of killing enemies, and it also enables Health conversion mod to increase armor against explosions or toxin procs which Turbulence is weak against, and also can give ammo to your archguns in case you want to turn into an AC-130 with your heavy weapon like Mausolon, Grattler, Ayanga or whatever is your favourite. You can also cast Dispensary really high up in the air, so you don't need to keep close to the ground to grab the orbs.

[@kurokokoro8472]

@@Zelsius00 omg that's even better xD clearly i got a long way ahead

[@Noxims47314]

I use condemn on Vauban because its additional effect is incapacitating enemies, to which his damage bonus comes in to play, the shields are just bonus. and when building for range its quite hilarious seeing how far those chains can rattle after a target before they're caught up to them.

[@darkcore903]

Infested mobility on my Ivara. Helps me go to extraction faster on spy missions😂

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

Speedy, invisible Lady :D

[@kalkonhaj3372]

energized munitions actually makes you only consume an ammo every 4rth shot not a 75% chanse, but a flat 1 ammo is 4 shots with the 75% ammo effeciency buff that is. With 50% it becomes 1 ammo is 2 shots and with 25% every 4rth shot is free

[@dragonamaranthine3942]

Voratious metastasis is amazing on GARUDA ability spam builds. Blood letting generates energy by sacrificing health, Metastasis instantly replenishes health.

[@RedVanquish]

I would consider golden instinct A tier only if the cooldown was 5 seconds and not 20. So I don't stand around like an idiot waiting for my cooldown to finish to cast it again and again because I forgot to bring an Orokin Eye air support drop.

[@zhongxina2614]

Why not put it in a tier list? Oh yeah you need to squeeze more view time...

[@fangedwolf4581]

How is torid incarnon with xatas whisper? Help please

[@beeleuazevedo8142]

Doesn’t synergize like some other incarnon weapons, go for roar

[@CephalonBread]

Empower for exalteds and drain abilities!!!!!! you only need to cast them once in a blue moon if you're built to use them for a long time, so using empower on someone like Baruuk would be pretty good!

[@CephalonBread]

also shock and smite both having damage infusing augments that benefit radiation damage means they're good for eidolon hunts!!!!!

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

Thanks for sharing :D Which channelled Abilities do you use most with it? ;)

[@CephalonBread]

@@MHBlacky_ENG A good example would be Ivara's Prowl with the Infiltrate augment because it makes her invisibility movement speed scale with strength! :D

[@nightfallalicorn4246]

With the addition of Jade's Ophanim Eyes. I would add it to S tier. It's very strong even though it's altered to remove reviving allies from afar. It removes enemy armour, removes enemy shield, reduces enemy movement speed up to 90%, deals passive heat damage and has a long duration. With over 200 strength, it only takes 5 seconds to maximise the effect. With over 150 duration, it lasts for 3/4 of a minute. It's cheap to cast as well, 50 energy or 78 energy if using a Blind Rage mod. It's like a mix of Gloom, Pillage and Tharros Strike. Acolytes, Demolisher in Disruption missions, and Thumper Doma on Plains of Eidolon won't take long to defeat with this ability. I'm sure this will get nerfed in the future.

[@superphatcakes]

I WOULD LIKE TO CORRECT MYSELF, because apparently it changed from when I initially made the build. Razorwing's INITIAL CAST ONLY benefits from Empower, whereas the successive casts while it's active no longer does. I'm not sure when it changed but it did and I'm a bit disappointed now that this is how it is. That's all I'd like to change from my initial posting this comment about a week ago. Empower actually DOES have a use case. Maybe even two. I've also found it kinda fun/funny to use it on Mirage to boost the usual abilities that make Mirage function. The only other uses it has is for making the funny hybrid Nova build that can both speed and slow enemies on command, and for power-boosting Protea, meaning with good timing the passive gives it's boost and then Empower does it's thing at the same time, which can make for some bonkers numbers on Blaze Artillery. There might be more, but those're what I've just played with personally, so whether you decide to try it is up to you.

[@AtmosFabula]

So, Perspicacity. Largely useless, absolutely. However! A Wukong modded with high Duration, Efficiency and Preparation, with Perspicacity on his 3 makes for one of, if not the best frames for Spy/Rescue missions. A dedicated Spy config like this has saved me so much time in sorties and spy/rescue relics that, even though it's not an overall good ability, it certainly has a use case where it is super, suuuuuper strong!

[@mettwasser]

I actually run Perspicacity on my Wukung (cuz spy missions are the only thing he's useful for 🙂) And the only reason for this: I'm lazy. And for that, it does a pretty good job. It's about the most "mid" ability I can think of

[@darkteam2473]

U did not take in consideration some augments not the tier list might be too inconsistent. ex : augment for oberon (which becomes a buffer) When styanax ability is ranked lower than terrify... I guess you can armor strip acolytes with your terrify skill but not the rest of the players :) Styanax is by far the most interesting and versitile armor strip. Cascade 9999, kappa 9999, appollo 9999, accolytes 9999 While terrify can do nothing :)

[@idclol2883]

how does this guy get so many things wrong about these abilities and feel confident enough to make a tierlist

[@jamesstead2256]

Tell me more, cos im sick of youtubers telling how to mod then i find out i wasted my time my forma & the rest

[@Laireso]

And I always fall victim to it too... Just got myself Tenet Tetra 59% toxin, 5 forma and it's just as mediocre as I thought it would be. On closer inspection the guy was showcasing it with a riven that doubled DPS of the whole setup on top of pre nerf Eclipse and Wisp's fire rate mote at 400% str against 120 lvl SP so it looked broken. I always fking fall for it too. I stop playing for a year and forget what to look for. There is always a catch, except for the rare occasions when the gun is actually good and it's not all the insane self-buffing. I have already gathered like +10 guns I thought would be broken and are just sitting in my arsenal gathering dust because I have better alternatives.

[@coneuman]

Empower, Baruuk.

[@Vipvip19972]

"Parasitic armor" isn't that good, but it has one use, specifically for Rhino when we want to stack additional health.

[@SamuraiExecutivo]

8:00 Actually, the diminishing return is kinda deceptive. Your EHP (Effective HP) keeps growing quite well. E.G.: At 300 armor you have 50% DR (damage reduction), which means if a enemy does 200 damage on you, you just take 100. If you have 1000 HP, the enemy should do 2000 damage to kill you. Given that, the formula to understande the EHP is: EHP = HP / (1-DR%) So, if you have 1200 armor (80% DR), it means that your EHP is 5 times bigger than your actual HP (HP / (1-0,80). [HP = 1.000 then EHP = 5.000] If you have 2700 armor (90% DR), your EHP if 10 times bigger than your actual HP (HP / (1-0,90). [HP = 1.000 then EHP = 10.000] It still have diminishing returns, but is not that big. You doubled your EHP while your armor got an 2.25x increase. I don't know how much armor you can stack on a warframe, but from Railjacks you can get easy 95% DR using MK3 parts, and for instance, an increase from 94% to 95% seems to little, but actually is huge (20% increase) on EHP. [94%DR > HP = 1000 EHP = 16,666] [95%DR > HP = 1000 EHP = 20,000]

[@JerryBlaze7]

Parasitic armor is more of a B tier skill based on your grading system. And here's why. While everything you said about it in the video and your opinion of it IS based in facts; You're over looking some incredible niche situations where added Armor is actually highly beneficial. Namely, the Overguard generated from Rhino/Rhino Prime's iron skin. You see, Iron skin is effected by "Ability Strength and Armor mods, as well as damaged absorbed"(within the first three seconds of casting) to generate overguard. Parasitic armor's effects also scale with ability strength on top of using the warframe's shields(and overshields) The long and short of it is, the added armor boost from casting Parasitic armor(plus the loss of shields&over shields from using it) drastically boosting Rhuno's armor while opening him up to extra damage for about 2 seconds on average, (depending your build) means that casting Iron skin directly after using Parastic armor is going to have an even larger overguard generated than just using iron skin along would have. And the best part? The extra damage you would have taken when your lacking shields gets soaked up into that 3 second window of invulnerability that casting iron skin with has. So, with a quick press of a 1 and 2, you can give your rhino an easy +25k overguard (depending your build and the situation of incoming damage when activating - I've seen 130k overgaurd generated once when using this while being hit by the jade light. Lmao) I'm sure there's other niche uses, like for warframes that have tons of shields and a crap base armor that really cant be fixed with armor mods alone. Why waste archon shards to to add more base armor to a frame when a you can use a skill slot instead? Not every skill on every frame is you'd in every situations, so it's a more viable solution. Or for those who haven't access to shards yet, it's a viable alternative. Atleast that's how I see it. Lol

[@nekosia6973]

Perspicacity. I use it on my Ivara whenever I do Spy missions, for the same reason I do EVERY Spy mission solo : Waste Of Time. I don't want to struggle with annoying laser parts (Thanks Ivara), I don't want to wait for teammates to finish their point and potentially FAIL THE ENTIRE MISSION in Sorties, and I don't want to spend any more time clicking or spamming space bar. I did a lot and I mean, A LOT of Spy, and I simply can't bother anymore. Especially like someone said, in Lua, and in Kuva fortresses, and other uncommon Spy objectives.

[@kancelas]

Hideous Resistance is D tier, it gets outclassed by Primed Sure Footed which gets outclassed by OverGuard. It's too far up the Helminth grind to matter, because once you get it, you're already at least 400 days in, where you can get Primed Sure Footed, and even if you haven't reached day 400 and don't have Primed Sure Footed, you still have many frames supplying the OverGuard to the squad, like Frost, Styanax and most recently Dante. Edit: Although Rhino gets OverGuard, he only does it for himself, but he is the first frame many players will get.

[@noahedenborg4221]

Don't forget rhino literally second planet which is very very early

[@kancelas]

@@noahedenborg4221 Rhino is the first frame the majority of players will get, but as i said in my now edited comment he's not supplying OverGuard to anyone but himself.

[@noahedenborg4221]

@@kancelas yeah but so does atlas and kullervo not give to others and atlas frost and styanax need augments to get overguard

[@jamesstead2256]

i got primed sure footed 14 days ago i wanted it so bad yet i get tossed into the air like a wet balloon, is Overguard a mod as i cannot see it on the market

[@noahedenborg4221]

@@jamesstead2256 its not a universal mod 3 come in augments and 3 frames have it inately then 3 of those frames can give it to allies

[@Falafel6723]

I play roar rev with 2 strength arcanes and over 300 percent strength I swear I know how to have fun, im not boring

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

Hahaha I know what you're going for and I like it :D

[@rayenmetsuryuu]

I completely understand your point of view for the empower subsume, but i still use it for some exalted weapons / form, especially titania. I wanted to do a half meme build for myself for flying as fast as possible, and i didn't like the lantern ability, so i put empower instead. That allowed me to grab all buffs from the tribute (increasing my number of Razorflies), then empowering my ultimate, giving more move speed, more damage on both exalted weapons and my razorflies, as well as having even more fire rate and flight speed from the razorwing augment. It's still my current build on titania, so yeah, i might be one of the only person to use it, but on that particular meme-ish build i really like it. Also one of my favorite helminth abitlity would be yareli's aquablades. I use it on my nekros with its augment, same on my limbo. For nekros, obvious reason being that the recast is one projectile with guaranteed slash proc. As for Limbo, it would be to still deal damage while being safely in my rift plane, with the energy regen and still using the augment to send a nice slash missile to a pack of enemies. (i would have personally put it in the niche category, but i still understand your reasoning.) Btw, i'm kinda new to your channel, but i really like your content, it really gives lots of nice informations ^^

[@AshN1ght]

Well you forgot that titania spellbind blocks applying status effects to you, also same for saryn molt cleanses statuses and has instant cast time making it perfect for shieldgate

[@TheSweenyToad]

Empower is absolutely busted with Chroma. Take Vex Armor to new extremes; slap on Guardian Armor, Quick Thinking, Hunter Adrenaline and Arcane Battery, maybe even Madurai's strength boost. You take so little damage in SP everything feels like a tickle. If you get the power strength fissure boost, you're practically immortal.

[@Doomness87]

Hey blacky I really enjoyed this video honestly quite a good list a couple of stand outs id change would be empower helminth skill is good for some dumb niche builds so i'd say your rules would put it in B and yareli's augment for aquablades allows u to throw the blades at enemies for a mild energy cost from what ive used aquablades is actually really solid and underated I would honestly say A or B for it though to each there own keep up the good work :)

[@MHBlacky_ENG]

Thank you for the lovely feedback!

[@HeXaGoNDBD]

silence disable eximus abilities tho (cuz they need to say the line to activate their abilities for some reason. They just cant its silence XD)

[@MadamApocolips]

i LOVE golden instict. one of my favorite farms is treasure hunting, and it made my kuria farm sooooo much easier

[@drage1459]

I found a fairly weird use for empower using equinox day form. Not sure how good it is but, basically i first empower day forms 3rd ability making teams ability power buff stronger. and then i buff 4th ability making dmg aoe stronger. Since their both channel with low drain i dont have to reactivate them. And if i activate empower without selecting an ability i can run with 3 active channel abilities and use arcane which gives 250 hp per active channel.

[@XCAL1BR0]

GOLDEN INSTINCT TIP: It's easy to dismiss this skill as useless because it barely shows direction of treasure and disappears, with 20s cooldown, BUT I found it extremely useful not so much as treasure compass, but as binary treasure alert system: -Go negative range with maxed Narrow Minded. -Add Loot radar to roughly match the range of GI. -Make a toggle macros that will spam GI's ability key every 1s. Too frequent will slow down your game. It will only trigger and go on cooldown if there IS treasure in range. -When it triggers - look around. Treasure should be within 60-70m. Loot radar is helpful at this point, as you can note the farthest loot on your map and check there first. -Warframe that benefits from having negative range build: Nova. Go ham on those Zariman and Entrati medallions.

[@riplol9428]

Hildryns pillage can be recast straight away to cansel the long wait time for shield. You will only get shield from those close to you, but it would work like harrow instant ability. Thus i would defently rate it S tier. Other then that, nice video love your content. ❤👍

[@andrewjhollins]

I'm sure someone already helped you out with this one, but if not: Metastasis = met-TASS-stuh-sist. It is the spread of a tumor from one region or organ within the body to another. Great video, though. Even if, as a Rhino main, I totally disagree about the usefulness of Parasitic Armor... if you use that before an augmented rhino charge, then pop your iron skin, you can get some downright stupid levels of overguard.

[@OniGanon]

I use Empower on my Nova, so she can go from a negligible 10% slow to a 60% slow, depending on the mission and what the team would prefer. I've also got Voracious Metastasis on Garuda so she can act as an infinite energy battery without requiring a target like Trinity does. Fire Blast is an armour stripping ability, not a damage ability; together with Corrosive Projection aura, it removes 93% of armour (95% with Coaction Drift), and requires only neutral Power Strength. Good if you can't afford to reach enough Strength for Terrify, let alone Tharros or Pillage. Spectrorage with augment is the most powerful energy generation helminth ability. The downside is it requires a mod slot. Coil Horizon is a outclassed as a grouping ability, but it is still decent at that job and it does Electric damage, which means you can use it with Archon Stretch to generate energy. Silence disables Eximus and Acolyte abilities. It also has an augment that increases Finisher damage and makes enemies vulnerable to Stealth Damage/Finishers during their stun animation. This is very good on Ash, and can be useful on melee frames. Spellbind when held makes you immune to status effects. It also has an augment to generate energy. Tesla Nervos with its augment is a powerful nuke, provided you have high range and an armour strip. Kill whatever it latches onto and the damage done to the target is spread in an aoe. As for why you'd want Electric damage: Archon Stretch.

[@Brahlam]

Just unlocked the Subsume ability on my Helminth, which I ignored for far too long. And this Video really helps in understanding what to focus on, and more important why, and where to use these skills. 🙂

[@fadeddragon123]

So. In terms of math with armor. It’s typically not diminishing returns. It looks that way but the more DR you get the more valuable future DR is As an example 99 vs 98. 99 armor is actually twice as effective as 98.

[@Iseecko]

Empower is actually really good if you're going for an Ulfrun's Descent build on Voruna, since you're unable to activate any of your other abilities while Ulfrun's Descent is active. That's the only build I know of where Empower is useful.

[@DeskDriver]

Mirage w/ Growing power Arcane augmented and arcane power ramp Empower over her 2 to power her 3 Use 1,2,3 over and over 4 red archon shards for strength. EZ 1000% eclipse buff Ik it's over kill but why not?

[@pasteldad39]

Empower has one niche build: Empower Nova - it is a speed nova build with empower you can turn your next 4 into a slowva 4 creating the switch-va build

[@NiceGameInc]

There are more ^^

[@vaylinwindsor4571]

You actually can increase tempest barrages range. the range and explosion radius are additive and explosion radius increases with range. E.G. his base skill would have 15m (10m range + 5m explosion radius) and 200% range would give him 20m range (10m range + 10m explosion radius). Also Atlas' ore gaze is the only drop chance boost that scales with strength.

[@MalakkarVohryzek]

Therros Strike is both permanent defense reduction for enemies, and also gives return on health, Terrify is temporary and returns no health. I'd have Terrify and Therros Strike on even ground for quality of helminth ability, just differing in balance of effects. Therros Strike (less range, 120 degree angle attack limit, less enemies hit) balanced by Terrify (temporary enemy debuff, no health recovery) An important, but ultimately, IMO, neutral value consideration: Both stop attacks, differently. Therros Strike staggers enemies for about 1-2 seconds only, but their debuff remains. Terrify stops attacks longer, but fleeing enemies harder to kill for debuff period.

[@ZefulStarson]

While increasing armor has diminishing returns on DR. The effect of DR has a linear relationship to Effective Hit Points (the actual damage you are taking). This means that Parasitic armor can be a worthwhile survival tool if a player does not have a better defensive tool from the Helminth system (they don't have the warframe in quesiton, or they're actively using the base frame and haven't gotten the prime).

[@Fedico7000]

Some comment/correction for what I believe was not placed right or outright left out, going by you ranking categories too: Empower - has some use cases for hitting strength breakpoints for specific builds, and can be use to buff other particularly strong ability buffs and the like, so not fully useless. Probably a B (C in general). Infested Mobility - while unnecessary and seemingly useless, it is quite a substantial buff to you speed, so for those who are running mission after mission where speed matters the most, it can be an invaluable time saver that will shave hours off their grind over days or at worst weeks. A niche B (D in general). Master's Summons - extremely niche use of upkeeping companion based builds and even on a build centered on making your companion do all the work there are several other, probably better, options. It's a D, C at best (D in general). Perspicacity - Literally the best ability in the game in rescue/spy missions with cypher disabled, especially for those who can't hack well or at all for one reason or another. Solid B (variable rank based on player usage D to S). Expedite Suffering - apparently good for stynax, I imagine it's a decent and satisfying way to make 1 button death waves for some certain frames. Interesting C tier (C in general seems fair too.) Parasitic Armor - this has a great use in buffing the ever loving hell out of abilities that scale with armor, best one being rhino's iron skin. This rockets the hp of iron skin and alike abilities for normal level tanking to kinda goofy numbers. Iron solid B tier for them. (kinda got distracted at this point and decided after realizing I hadn't posted this by now that I should just do it and come back later when I have that kinda free time)

[@Llightmare]

The damage buff from Mesa's Shooting Gallery applies to all your equipped weapons, btw - though it's damage bonus is additive to the likes of Hornet Strike etc but a damage boost nonetheless. The ability ITSELF jams enemy weapons and staggers melee attackers. The augment only ADDS the blind after 6 kills or 6 kills from your teammates. I am not sure if it still works BUTT Muzzle Flash worked on Demolishers as well, making it even easier to kill them if they get too close to the conduit if they are near it.

[@ripcord_z9928]

Thanks for all your videos. Getting back into Warframe, and man feels like I have never played, LOL completely lost hahahaha