The Ultimate Zone Threat Level Guide for Scum 0.95

This Guide will give you a clear understanding of how the New Zone Threat Levels work in Scum 0.95 and help you to prepare yourself for every situation instead of just running into a bunker with no gear.
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[@CocaCoca44]

Cant thank you enough for these guides. I started playing a random night last week and quit nearly immediately thinking it was way to much to learn but learning how to start when you land and navigating around has turned this into my new favorite survival.

[@Luthais]

Glad I could help

[@Cloud9Cris7]

The hordes are a bit rough but I think the devs just need to tweak em just like they did with exhaustion. This is an early access game rn so let them cook and keep giving them good info to work off of.

[@Tweak-oh6ov_]

How long we gonna run with “early access” ??? Games 6 years old bud

[@zDeadHeadFredz]

@@Tweak-oh6ov_ until it hits 1.0 lol

[@LegionarHR]

Hope they will fix puppets spawning around me till christmas… not sure why they think its good idea to puppets to spawn only when you enter area.. its stupid and puppets spawn on allready cleared area behind me

[@ttoroie]

that distance is adjustable in SP and by the server owners in MP like he says at 2:15, encounter horde spawn distance multiplier

[@LegionarHR]

@@ttoroie i am not talking about hordes, I am talking about normal puppets, you enter city and after 1min there is puppets around you, even on the place you just been… its not realistic, you cant scout town with scope anymore to know how many puppets are waiting for you.. scopes are useless now for pve situations… only for pvp and hunting are good

[@ernestoajuria410]

same problem...its not fun to have puppets spawing around u while u walk...and the disapear after u lose sigth.@@LegionarHR

[@vihta545]

Totally agree, enemies just appearing out of thin air kills the immersion. Sneakily clearing a village of all puppets and then when you finally start looting they just spawn in again...

[@TrashCatGaming]

I'm genuinely curious why you chose to add a 5x multiplier if that's not the norm? It would've been more practical and helpful to just show us hordes with the default settings.

[@Luthais]

It shows the clear difference in the zones. a 1 Times Multiplier might have not shown it clearly because of too little puppets but now that you understand how the zones work the server your playing on will be better to understand the threat levels and why theres such a big difference.

[@TrashCatGaming]

@@Luthais appreciate the response, I see where you’re coming from now

[@OxllSunslayer]

Bow in bunker still viable. Cleared C3 bunker multiple times. The random beeper spawn in a horde though is just really hard to plan for. Know your escape route. This is how SCUM should be!

[@Luthais]

Yes. This is Scum !

[@Pyropup555]

Thanks for this! We had been trying to figure out what the different zones were

[@Luthais]

My pleasure

[@zDeadHeadFredz]

always good videos luth thanks mate! i'm sure the devs will get things sorted out for us they always have, hope we get our mad max truck back soon!

[@zDeadHeadFredz]

and yea they despawn super fast if you run like 50-75 meters away feels kinda cheap but when you got hardcore settings and a bow sometimes you gotta use cheese to your advantage, just the way it is atm.

[@Luthais]

Me too ;]

[@ryancook5576]

Hell I have 1100 hours and I'm glad to not be running into a herd of puppets every 30 seconds. Once they fix all the bugs in this system, I'll be glad for it.

[@RedDiamond00]

You can still do bunkers with a bow, just bring like 30 arrows and keep picking them up when you use them.

[@Luthais]

Agreed

[@ivyfoo502]

That's my favorite bunker because the armory is so close to the entrance. In and out.

[@Luthais]

Yes it is nice. C2 has 3 very close to one another as well

[@Zinedamzy]

Hope for a change, because imo it makes it too easy. (in a survival oriented game)

[@clausrobertinho8278]

Nice video bro, thx

[@Luthais]

Glad you liked it

[@-Cesh-]

Bunker run with an axe only. Challenge accepted ;) Thats my jam

[@metzen100]

ok so I won't start with x5 multiplier lol. That looked insane and how the fawk are they opening the bunker door? planning on going back to the game with some friends.

[@BiggieSlurp]

Dude I don't know how you enjoy that many zombies.. That looks like the most unfun thing ever

[@jonathanpalma713]

Some of us live for the suffering.

[@TheKoyox]

If you want a pvp shooter play tarkov. Thats a survival game. Not a game show!! Wait a moment?! 😮

[@aa11ff]

Becouse you are noob use to take easy loot biggie

[@hampdog5716]

No I agree with this guy. I’m tired of puppets spawning in front of me, even happened before this update a lot. It’s annoying seeing sooo many puppets

[@TheKoyox]

@@hampdog5716 that’s a bug and they tried fixing it - 2 times already. Don’t know if the last patch fixed it. If not Watch luth video „testing max horde settings“ he will tell you which settings prevent this problem for now.

[@connorC6]

Yeah I was running 4 sectors running thru the forest and I was wondering where all the zombies were because I never saw 1 zombie In the forest

[@Oni1975]

Thanks for this explanation. It wasn't exactly clear what each zone entailed. Perhaps the devs will offer additional settings that will let players tweak the threat zones. That is, settings that let you adjust which threat zones are available on the map. So if you want your meat grinder back, you can deactivate the LTZ and MTZ and just have carnage everywhere. lol Good video, very helpful.

[@Luthais]

Glad I could help

[@herr871]

nice vid as always dud, but I have a doubt about your configuration with "Encounter character respawn batch size multiplier"at 2:00, what does it mean? and how it affects the experience either using 0 or 1 as assigned values. I dont speak english so perhaps that's why I dont get it xd

[@2hrsToChooseThis]

Batch size is the number of puppets in each wave of the horde

[@Luthais]

According to the Devs it will help for puppets not to respawn all the time in bunkers.

[@Easyflux]

There's hordes now? I thought people found the game difficult enough as it was lol.

[@BlushyDough]

Idk about abandon bunkers, those are probably horrible, couldn't imagine a horde in there when you got locked doors and the razors. But normal bunkers I have been able to do just with a 35lb bow and a nailed baseball bat, as long as you go slow and stop the zombies from screaming to alert a horde and you fight them 1v1 you're all good. Its when you run into the suicide ones or multiple around a corner is when you can't kill them fast enough to stop them from calling sometimes. Which at that point you're ruined and need to escape the bunker, can be done without a gun but its better just to have one so you can chew through the zombies when they become too much. Given lockers almost always give a weapon these days if you get a shotgun you're pretty good to go at that point.

[@Luthais]

Yes bow with good melee weapon and slow movement to give them time to spawn in works well

[@eatonbeaver6972]

With an M16 equipped with bayonet I think that bunker would have went better LOL It's sad that once again, the changes they made make it much harder for the solo player. Now squads pretty much have the run on high loot areas. To play solo on a busy server with Xtra puppets is going to make it very hard to compete for the average player, never mind new players.

[@BlushyDough]

Not really, the more people are in the area the more zombies spawn as far as I have seen. If anything its better to play solo now because yo

[@MrAlitis69]

Amazing video as usual. How do you "eat" the painkillers while in your hand so fast?

[@ttoroie]

he has them on quick slot, then just pressing that key will eat one

[@Luthais]

As Toro said. Add it to your quick slot and press that number. Works for food, drinks, pills.

[@rizzi420]

thx

[@Luthais]

;]

[@acrock21]

Luthais this is off topic, but is there a way to spawn magzines full of ammo... for example the Scar Magazine full of AP rounds ?

[@2hrsToChooseThis]

SCUM Admin Helper will spawn in full mags for any weapon

[@Luthais]

Yes install Scum Admin Helper. Great tool

[@acrock21]

@@Luthais ​ @2hrsToChooseThis Thank you both you guys are awesome, thanks for the content Luthais... its funny updates keep getting me down... but your content inspires me to get back to scum.

[@acrock21]

@@Luthais thank you guys again for suggesting the helper tool to me... i donated to them

[@coreybacon9007]

lots off errors popping up today, done verified once...anyone else getting some kind of sig error?

[@Luthais]

Theres a lot of solutions if you search on google or join my Discord and ask my community

[@doomslayerforever2858]

ill stick with 0.5x multiplyer

[@ttoroie]

the missions on Meat Grinder will force you to get into them tough areas anyway

[@connorC6]

I used to be able to just craft a spear and run into a town and loot and with a bunker you used to just use a bow or a melee weapon but I guess thoes days are gone now

[@Luthais]

You can still do that. Just need a lot more patience and skill

[@Pirate_tat87]

Yeah that's insane I could never survive and even the fact that they are able to open bunker doors that shouldn't be

[@tubepapy]

I normally really like your content however, I think this constant testing on high multipliers people wont get. By all means do the times 5 multiplier but then show it at x1 so that people can see x1 is still hard but doable..... Cant say I've seen many bunker runs on youtube at x1 by many of the content creators..... Having said that the one at the airfield at x10 was funny to watch, so many puppets in one place.

[@Luthais]

Ok your the second person that asked that so ill do it ;]

[@grantmartin3883]

Did I hear a cheeky little fart

[@Luthais]

No. Dont think so lol

[@janovmi2]

it would be way more fun/controllable if traps worked on pupets, like you claymore some places you know horde will go thru or something like that, sadly traps are useless in offline mode also the spawning sucks,zombies should spawn further away and not pop in in front of you out of nowhere, hell having 0,5 zombie spawn with 10x damage feels way better since the spawning zombie may actualy scare you and kill you, not like knowing there will be 10 zombies spawned on my feet every 10m of distance i move, feels lame also having alot of puppets in abandoned bunkers feeels extreamly flustrating with the razors also being there and waiting for sound, you either have to uber stealth around regullar pupets or rambo it all, also feels lame

[@ttoroie]

barbwire works wonders for the puppets, placed outside base walls killes them all, also hordes spawn distance is adjustable in SP and by the server owners in MP like he says at 2:15, encounter horde spawn distance multiplier

[@user-xo6ic6jx2m]

From a technical point of view I can understand the reason for the horde system,.... less server performance But the implementation of it is not good. At 10:20 you can see the problem,... 4 puppets just spawned out of the ground very close to the player. This means, you can not make up skill for lack of firepower. In 0.9 you were able to clear such spots with skill (good recon, silent approach, silent weapons, stealth, tactical approach). In 0.95 this does not apply any more and your best shot is overwhelming firepower. But if I manage to equip myself with enough firepower by looting small towns and sell everything I can find, why would I need to go to high risk zones (like the airfield). I could go on looting small towns + police stations and make "easy" money with the traders. 0.9 with 6x or 7x puppets was more exciting than 0.95 with 3x puppets + hordes. A possible fix could be: - Dedicated puppet which will scream (trigger) the horde when see the player (line of sight). - Suppressed weapons should only trigger hordes when shot multiple in short time. - Bows and melee should have very little chance of triggering hordes - normal puppets should spawn like in 0.9 This would give us a chance of approaching tactically and not so good geared player could clear military spots by skill. If a spot (like airfield) has 100 puppets total, I should be able to see round about 70 from a far distance and a horde trigger should only set those puppets in combat mode. Right now the horde trigger will add more puppets to the spot from nowhere.

[@Zinedamzy]

Is the Wasteland ever making a comeback? If yes, it needs more admin attention, no admin support and lose everything even because of a bug and doesn’t get replaced has nothing to do with hardcore 😁

[@Luthais]

Bugs steal from us all. Thats not what admins are there for. We keep you safe and help you when you cant help yourself like your stuck somewhere.

[@qreepyQT]

10:52 left right left right left right

[@qreepyQT]

I liked it more when the zombies spawned beforehand. I would scout the trainyard and could go tactically in and loot the whole trainyard in b3 with killing 2 zombies max (usually no zombie interaction at all) on a high population server in under 12 min, run to my base and back and when the timer hit 20 the loot was respawned and i could check the zombies again and go back in

[@Silver4567z]

Not a game where you can afford to die every 5 minutes.

[@harleymckiddy2172]

But bears and wolfs are hard to kill with a bow or spears

[@Luthais]

Wolf yes. Bear you just side step him till he gets tired and runs away

[@vihta545]

Not a big fan of enemies just appearing out of thin air...never enjoyed that in any game. It does kill the immersion 4 me.

[@aaronpower879]

The devs need to rework the suppressors back to when they actually worked against puppets so they can’t hear shots but the projectile when it hits a surface. At the moment suppressors are just shit, bayonets are really the only way to go hopefully the devs work on this issue sooner rather then later, it makes one of the most useful attachments for firearms pretty much useless. I don’t like comparing Scum to Dayz but even the improved suppressors on dayz work for roughly around 2-4 shoots preventing zombies rushing your location it makes gameplay situational being able to stay quite as a solo or remove suppressors to draw zombies in to clear a town for your squad just a quality of life thing that just make the game better to play.

[@Luthais]

Use a shotgun with suppressor and youll see it works

[@INFJ-ThaneTr]

Imagine if that was the base game and players were forced into surviving rather than trying to get an assault rifle. If that ws real life, whats a gun going to do for you against mindless controlled puppets when eventually you will run out of bullets and be back at square one. Use it when you need to, but dont need to use it i say.

[@ttoroie]

I guess no more just spawn and go to bunker to gear up lol

[@Luthais]

You can just not on the MG lol

[@Mirraluka]

Hi Luthais, i have been playing for hundreds of hours now the MECH Factory in Z1 area the Developers have put the same item Example Bolts in the 3 Tarpolin crates on pallets this is no good when this is a high number plant, please tell the DEV's to stop doing this , it is hard enough trying to find a good Hiking backpack in this area plenty of ammo but NO Magazines just silly when you are in a dangerous place in fact I am sick and tired of being killed with good kit that I can find before I go into Z1 the puppets are far to strong when they HORDE.

[@Luthais]

I will see what I can do.

[@Mibu13]

i dont like it enemys spawn in front off you from thin air or from like every third shoot from gun is never good as i didnt like infinite razor spawn and immortal boss i dont big fan off this horde update to sems lazy af

[@ttoroie]

6:26 Don't know who this guy is looking for

[@solitaregames]

Ok... the puppet are becoming more intelligence. Because how the big EF did they open an electronic blast door with just punching it? The logic and common sense here is missing and needs to be found.

[@Luthais]

Lol. They pressed the button. LMAO

[@SadSquidward420]

thats copium at its finest , in what world is the hoard system better for new players? So they are safe in forests?

[@ttoroie]

much safer yes, mind the wolves now, they are silent ninja wolves lol

[@alexrangel490]

Having no zombies spawning in most buildings and in the forest, are a big help for new players I would say.

[@Luthais]

What new players have to ask themselves is do they want to play The Sims or PUBG or do they want to play a Survival Game ?

[@SadSquidward420]

@@Luthais There should be some kind of progression no matter how you look at it

[@Mirraluka]

Mathais and that is the whole ISSUE far to many PUPPETS to be able to play the game, even for the MASTER that you are, sorry you had to do a runner unless you have an RPK to mow all those puppets down you have no HOPE of getting good stuff from that BUNKER. Good Luck if you try again.

[@OnlyUseMeBIades]

Yes, it is good to help out new players. But doesn’t mean they needed to REMOVE that option for custom server owners. By helping out noobs you cripple your long term players. That’s not smart. They should absolutely do this for their new players but GIVE us that option to change for OUR servers.

[@Luthais]

Agreed

[@Mirraluka]

NO it is not better for the player, for the Devs in SCUM they do not feel anything. you are right since 0.95 is has become a GRINDING mess.

[@axelk7991]

I get that to people bored with the game after putting in an unhealthy amount of time into it may find this fun. But those people need to read the room. The vast majority of players, both new and old, don't find this kind of thing fun. Whether you're a struggling noobie or a seasoned veteran there's no way that this system, as it exists right now, will be good for the game or be found as fun by the overwhelming majority of the player base. This system as it currently stands has the potential to kill this game. I hope the devs wake up and see what this is doing to the game and their player base.

[@sli-fox]

Absolutely. In the video, he barely had time to loot at all. Pre .95, I had the population to max. I could actually use stealth and sneak around. Clear out sections of a POI. In the wild, it didn’t matter if zombies spawned because after getting a vehicle, I would just run them over. Before quitting the game, the game felt more empty in these “low threat” areas and it made running from POI to POI more like a running simulator.

[@Luthais]

Numbers are still climbing. Its a small majority that are loud. The rest of us are just playing the game and enjoy the learning process

[@axelk7991]

​@@Luthais I don't think the "numbers are still Climbing" argument serves as indicative proof that the game is heading in the right direction or that the changes are justified. When you refer to "The rest of us" I can assure you, that category you certainly fall into, is a much smaller population of the player base than the "small majority that are loud" is. You're a pro brother, no doubt about it. You put in a lot of time to perfect your craft, seeing as it is a priority to you. You and the rest of the experienced veterans to the game (most of which have communities or squads to play with) won't have any problem with these changes. It'll be easy for you to adapt and "enjoy the learning process". The rest of us won't/don't have that luxury to be in a position like yourself. Its quite possible that the reason we are "loud" and visibly upset is becuase we keep getting told by experienced players and content creators that our opinions are not as important. We are silence and spoken over and told not to bother the devs about the changes. That our concerns are no big deal, like they don't matter, which as you can imagine if your were in that position you'd be upset as well. Getting told to "git gud" or don't play the game is no way to treat and alienate a community of players that have faithfully stood by and supported the game, and in your case your channel, through all these years.

[@sli-fox]

@@axelk7991 Agreed. I’m a casual player who works 12-16hr shifts 4-6 days a week. I’ve bought almost every DLC to support the game (minus the weapon charms) and thought this was going to be the ultimate survival zombie game to put down the rest. I could immerse myself in a world where you could look through binos and see the zombies and plan your avenue of entry into a town or military compound. It was more realistic than anything I’ve played until this update.

[@MrAbram94]

Have so far put in about 80hrs into scum from time to time. I would most of the time come back to the game after bigger updates etc to check things out. Since it is 0.95 i tough now would be a good time to start playing the game more frequently. The one thing I immediately noticed was how you couldnt clear an area of puppets and it is just unrealistic und frustrating to me, just immersion breaking. Also where are all the animals? I dont like this changes at all. Thats jut my opinion...

[@HaYToKoRaZ]

The new system is not good at all, I stopped playing the game

[@Luthais]

Sorry to hear that

[@dyllie7123]

okay