The Unauthorized Truth About Oliver Stone's 'The Doors' (2022 Update)

[@lori3774]

"It's NOT Jim Morrison, it's Oliver Stone in leather pants" - so true!

[@mikeoyler2983]

I generally like the film for its aesthetic quality. Stone successfully reproduced original recording and scenes. He also got Val Kilmer to sing those songs with his own voice. However, the scene at UCLA, during the film class, makes me think that Oliver Stone was trying to make it look like he himself was the victim of censorship and criticism.

[@dannyhood7433]

Val kimmer of course at that time looked like Morrison. Later Val kimmer commented on Morrison, saying he was idiot .Figures. The Smother brothers also commented on Oliver stones movie, saying its about a drunk obnoxious character? That's not the Jim Morrison we knew. Jim morrison who came on our show, sat down conversation, remembered thinking Jim Morrison is pleasant, intelligent human being.

[@CaptainRon1913]

We heard what he said.

[@HardRockMaster7577]

That sums up the movie.

[@joekapp6826]

Yep! Reality is a booger. We only wish the movie were the real thing. Hey anyone notice what a huge neck and head the real Morrison has?

[@MrUkulele51]

I saw the Doors do a fantastic concert in Frankfurt,Germany. When I saw the Oliver Stone film I thought it made it look like they never did a good concert. I had to take a train from Frankfurt to Heidelberg after the concert. I was hanging around the auditorium with the friend I went while about 3/4 of the audience headed home. To our great surprise the band came back onto he stage and performed The End . It was not an encore, it was a private performance for the handful of people that were still hanging around. I loved the Doors.

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thank you for sharing your memories!

[@christinemerlino5080]

You are so lucky I was born too late. I was sitting in a diaper in 1967, but I’m a huge doors fan people get mad at me because I never say my favorite band is the Beatles because my favorite band is The Doors.

[@seankenneally3483]

WOW THAT IS AN AWESOME STORY! I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE BEEN THERE! THANK YOU!

[@lornahuddleston1453]

God, that must've been incredible!🤩How lucky. A good thing you weren't in a hurry to leave.

[@JackReynolds-w7g]

Incredible man, I was in Heidelberg in 68 ! I remember that concert in Frankfurt. Unbelievable 👍

[@rcruz101]

I was 13 when the movie came out and I can say that it did indeed turn me into a fan. Mainly because of the music. However, it is somewhat of a relief to see this honest perspective of Jim’s character.

[@williamburruel4378]

As a life time fan of the Doors for nearly fifty years I never liked Oliver Stones film. I saw the movie when it came out and thought the movie was crap. I refuse to try and give the film another look because I disliked it that much. Stones portrayal of JM as a drunken buffoon is totally dishonest. I enjoyed your wrap up on the film and it gives me assurance that my original opinion on the movie were correct. I have enjoyed Oliver Stones other movies but cannot understand why he portrayed JM and the Doors this way. Thanks again ~

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thanks for watching!

[@birgitangermair4483]

@@TheDirtyDoors I was 19 years old when the film was released in Austria. I went to the cinema with my sister to watch it and was embarrassed because I absolutely disliked it. I mean, hey, Val Kilmer was quite hip at that time and it was obviously a good idea to cast him as Jim Morrison. I had read "no one here gets out alive" a few years before ( I guess it was the first book I read in english language deliberately, because it wasn`t available in german language at that time) and I really loved it ... maybe this is why I was so disappointed by the Stone-movie, thinking: "This all feels wrong to me, and I cannot even explain why ...". Needless to say that all my girlfriends LOVED the film. I am now 52 years old and watched the movie again a few weeks ago - and even after more than thirty years I still don`t like it. If there is any reason to watch the movie at all, it is because of the music.

[@HardRockMaster7577]

I'd rather see Forest Gump portrayed as a drunken buffoon than Jim Morrison.

[@johantrenier1685]

It’s a movie that took liberties to make a story. Not unusual. Was it portrayed as a documentary? no. Val Kilmer sold it very well. Thank you for the analysis. You did a great job.

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thanks for watching!

[@doreenkucek3508]

Hey I think that Mr Morrison was so talented. Amazing he had such a Gift. And he was so pretty. He had it all. He is still missed. Doreen Jones❤😂

[@richardpetroche2569]

Muy buen documental para quienes admiramos la música de Jim Morrison , un poeta adelantado a su época !! Viva por siempre Jim Morrison y los Doors!!!

[@67psychout]

I think Jim's real life was interesting enough to not have to make shit up

[@balsamicvinegar5789]

I think the doors were just as much a 90's band as they were a 60's band. I graduated in 93 and this was my favorite band. Everybody listened to them.

[@marniekilbourne608]

Same lol. I started listening in middle school in 93 and then all of high school 94-98 and through college and I still listen!

[@leeannasloan2292]

Yep..in the 90s.kids were wearing the doors and led Zeppelin t shirts along with Soundgarden, Tupac and nirvana.

[@tylerthompson1842]

Same

[@eddiebreen5933]

First book was crap

[@harrypothead42024]

Yep

[@casquefer]

Morrison was an extraordinary poet, with unique, insane imagery. Gone too soon. 😪

[@skeletonkey6]

Spot -on! The images he conjured were absolutely unique - only his brain could have come up with that kind of imagery and poetry.

[@zackery5411]

All you have to do is watch a 1970 interview of Jim with Tony Thomas to know what kind of person Jim was. At 26 years of age his insights are of those of a man over twice his age. It’s obvious Jim was an extremely smart person with very well thought responses.

[@averyflowers8819]

I have a couple of VHS tapes of live performances of The Door's. And they don't look like some of the like shows, shown in the movie. 🤔 I know there are many but I think I have the hollywood bowl, live & some other tv ones.. They've been put away, for so long 😂.

[@SheenaMcCreath]

I absolutely loved this. Thank you for creating it. Did not want it to end. Been a Morrison fan for most of my life and actually you had a few things in there I didnt know about. I did see that movie when it first came out in the theatre in 1991 and several times since. I even owned it on VHS back in the day. Its time for a new movie depicting the real Jim Morrison.

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thanks for watching!

[@waynesilverman3048]

@@TheDirtyDoors Thanks .I remember watching this at my cousins and the babysiter laughing over him walking around with no top (lie) and it was only me and her up .I found the film strange as i didnt know wtf it was about until he sang light my fire .U fell asleep during the last 1 h and 1/2 and asked what happened . And my dad was a fan showed me old mags with him in (70s tho) and his friend next day lent me illustrated history book and the vids film soundtrack ? And i was hooked .13 floor elevators lead 🎸 stacy was 1st to get arrested on stage but that was a warrant arrest tho (a real life era maybe)

[@averyflowers8819]

I still have a 📼 copy, also 😂 ❤. And Vintage The Door's Vinyl ⏺️. ❣️🎶🎥❣️

[@colinm3130]

When I was working on a project with Ray a while back I asked him about the movie while we were having lunch. He said it's like taking only the worst things about someone's life and then unfairly portraying it as that person as a whole. Totally mischaracterized a person in order to sell tickets at that person's expense. and people go away mislead into thinking that was how Morrison was.

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thanks for sharing!

[@spreadthevegemite8064]

I agree with you as i listened to their music before the Oliver Stone movie, i took as Okay then as i knew was not like that, it's sad, maybe a remake is time to do?

[@colinm3130]

@@spreadthevegemite8064 I think Stone makes great movies. The problem is he tries to portray some of his movies as being factual when they are fiction. JFK was another fictional movie made to appear real by putting in some real footage here and there. It's understandable that fiction is needed in order to make a really great story. But he really should put some kind of disclaimer letting the audience know it's fictional.

[@williamwade9841]

Unfortunately that's most bio picks if not all

[@BurtTurbo]

@@williamwade9841 No. Most are the complete opposite.

[@sergioestevez8326]

Anyone interested in knowing the difference between the real Jim Morrison and the character portrayed in the movie "The Doors" just has to watch this video... Great job.

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thanks for watching!

[@izzy9132]

Saw them in concert in the summer of 67 Hampton Beach Casino. Jim's baritone voice was great and Ray Manzarek organ playing was unbelievable. Was surprised it was way short of a full house. Able to get up close to the stage. We didn't rush any performers back then but danced on the open floor. Seating way in the back. Had no idea how special this made all our concerts. Jim leather pants and shirt buttoned to the neck. It's nice to recall him when he was still healthy.

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thanks for sharing your memories!

[@christinemerlino5080]

You are so lucky I am literally so jealous because I was in a diaper I was born 1967 put on the huge Jim Morrison in the doors fan

[@den264]

Agree ! Ray could have been a top class jazz pianist.

[@Andrew-zr1jt]

Amazing memory!!

[@cattycorner8]

Swweeet

[@manzarek88]

I just can say: THANK YOU, for this video. You're making justice to a great human being.

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thanks for watching!

[@jamesburrows7942]

Admittedly, when I began taking psychedelics and drinking a lot, this was one of my favourite films. I hated how awful he was, but was so drawn to the otherworldliness of his mind. I was lucky enough to not die at my bottom, and I can only imagine the magic he would have brought into this world had he received the help he so desperately needed. Great documentary. Thank you.

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thanks for watching!

[@angelasmith129]

Thank you for setting the record straight.

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thanks for watching!

[@TheFlowNetwork]

I met Jerry Hopkins (the author of NOHGOA) at The Foreign Correspondents Club in Bangkok (where we were both living) in 2003. My band, Flow, was playing a gig there... original songs and some Classic Rock covers. After the show he invited me to his table, bought me a beer, bought one of my CDs and we became fast friends. He said he'd been living up-country in Thailand for the past 10 years and has only been listening to Thai folk music...and my band had made him interested in "his music" again. A few months later he called and invited me to his apartment in Bangkok to interview me for a new book he was writing called "Bangkok Babylon"...a collection of biographies of some of Bangkok's more colorful expats....my chapter is titled "Rock Star". (Yes...you've never heard of me...but I have the same biographer as Jim Morrison and Elvis!) When I arrived at his apartment for the interview at around 11 am, he was still in bed. The front door was open, I knocked and let myself in...and was pretty sure he was dead. Then he woke up, rolled out of bed and asked me if I wanted a beer as he ambled to the kitchen. I made some joke about "I woke up this morning and I got myself a beer' and we both had a good laugh...and a few beers. After the interview, he gave me a signed copy of NOHGOA (which I still have) and I told him I'd read the first edition of this book when I was a kid....and I remember Danny Sugerman's name was not on the first edition. Later editions all had Sugerman as the co-author and I'd always wanted to know why? I had also read Sugerman's autobiography "Wonderland Avenue" and he seemed like kind of dick to me...an opportunist. Jerry was pretty tight lipped about the details, but not shy about his displeasure with Danny. He told me stories about Jim, their trip together to Mexico, hanging out at Barney's Beanery in West Hollywood, etc... He said Jim was much more intelligent, articulate and funny than the movie (or the revised book) portrayed. Shortly after our interview I moved to another part of Thailand, an island called Koh Samui. Jerry and I kept in touch through email over the years and always had a plan to get together for a beer next time I was in Bangkok (which was not often). He passed away a few years ago and we never got to have that drink together. I'll always remember, during our interview he asked me "What has been the highlight of your career so far?" I replied... "This."

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thank you for sharing your memories!

[@damianjanush9905]

What a terrific story with some wonderful insights and takeaways about Jerry, his (and your own) views on Morrison, Sugarman, and your awesome times together I was going to school in Bangkok for my TEFL and then teaching English roughly around the same time period. Seems like all the fun places I hung at (including The Golden Beer Bar which let me play DJ and choose whatever music I liked) are all torn down now🤢 Was cool and so interesting hearing about your band, as I sang for cover and original bands in the States. Was odd for me in Bangkok as all I did musically was sit in occasionally w a Thai Classic Rock band who'd get me up for Deep Purple stuff like "Highway Star" "Smoke..." etc. These guys had been together since the Vietnam War playing this old dive bar not too far from the Hotel Miami. The only other band I (very occasionally) hung out w were a Thai Rock band called "Big Ass"🤣 Though signed, their music didn't really do anything for me. Glad to read you and your band did so well!!! Unfortunately, I couldn't find any real kinda Rock music scene to grasp onto. Wish I'd seen your band as maybe you coulda pointed me in the right direction? Oh well, so cool you had that friendship w Jerry and thar he included you in his book👍 Now, I live w my lovely Sumatran wife and teach in and around Phnom Penh. Will DEFINITELY make a point of trying to get ahold of Hopkins' book featuring you😊 Thank you for sharing your memories as they sure stirred up many of my own👍

[@christinemerlino5080]

That’s cool I enjoyed reading that. Thanks for sharing.

[@waynesilverman3048]

What did Jerry dislike about Danny (his greed at the time or the drugs ?)

[@moviedog1]

My wife was an extra in this movie. She's in the audience during a concert and on the street as Val walks by. She got paid with food, they fed the extras.

[@tannaeros]

Whoa! What concert?

[@we8sand812]

Wow, that’s funny because I played in a band with a dude that was also an extra. I believe he was a crowd member at the New Haven show.

[@waynesilverman3048]

@@tannaeros Oliver S said in the dvd commentary that in Not to touch the earth live song (val sang half and jim other half mixed together) concert part they was tripping some in the crowd .She wasnt as u carnt eat on acid

[@tannaeros]

@@waynesilverman3048 Oh my! I was at the Not to Touch the Earth scene and the Haight Ashbury scene. A dog peed on the the box of pretzels in the latter, and my cousin and I were placing bets on who was going to eat any. At NtTtE, for some reason, I got hypothermia so bad, I was lent a limo to sit in and warm up.

[@Till_it_happens_to_You]

Want a cookie 🍪

[@thevfxmancolorizationvfxex4051]

Honestly, the one thing I would not change about The Stone film is Kilmer as Morrison. He is just so perfect in the role

[@timkluntz8362]

You can see where Val took direction, as in Oliver Stone told him to be more like this or more like that, and Kilmer just ate it up and overacted. The film itself is an homage, a very different interpretation made for Hollywood. Stone has good moments in his portrayal of Morrison but he made it too accessible. Too one-sided. There's no realness to the picture; just a script and actors playing out the scene. I still think its an okay movie, but this picture created the idea of Jim as a really bad person when he really was so much more; an intellectual with voice, soul and heart.

[@Johnconno]

The fuck is an 'ommage?

[@cherrybomb2600]

Tribute.

[@VIMaggotVIBrainzVI]

Yeah, it's insane how much Val resembled Morrison, even in vocal delivery. He could've nailed the role easily if Oliver Stone had cared about getting things right. It's too bad

[@williamholden4312]

The film didn’t show the other side of Morrison, it just made him out to look like he was drunk all the time which wasn’t so.

[@gregsmith7949]

Great review. As an avid Doors fan, it's painfully obvious that the movie is a one dimensional characterisation of Jim.

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thanks for watching!

[@homynacuriel9453]

He was kind of a dick though

[@JackReynolds-w7g]

My memories of the Doors back in the late 60's will never be usurped by any movie filled with people who were not even there.

[@aprilflowers6074]

Thank you SO much for this. I could cry. I always am saddened by how no one talks about the more quiet, and especially the funny side of Jim. He makes me laugh like almost no one else. Thank you again :)

[@TheDirtyDoors]

I'm glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching!

[@shannonbaribeau4023]

My sentiments exactly. Jim, like everyone on this planet is flawed, but, that doesn't make him who he was and is. He is funny and has that inner child, where he is not afraid to be silly, very in tune with nature, gentle, loving and fun loving, friendly, caring and I can go on. We are all flawed, but, it doesn't make us horrible people and Jim was/is not horrible in any way, shape or form. Even though his poetry is on the dark side, he has sensitivity..poets usually do. Jim has many layers to him and we ALL LOVE HIM and accept him...flaws and all. LOVE YOU, JIM.

[@yourcaseworker6916]

I was born a week after Morrison died...The music of The Doors is what I'm a fan of...Not the story or the embellishment of what really happened to The Doors or Jim Morrison...and that will never change for me. Their music is timeless.

[@Bigger-Than-Jesus]

The movie made it fad for grungie little 17 year old posers. i was born in 70 too. The movie made me throw up

[@celestemacaisa3907]

I’m so glad I did not see this movie as before this movie aired, I already knew that the The Doors were a great band, that Jim Morrison was crazy and a genius, sensitive and charismatic so I don’t need to see an inaccurate movie to learn about The Doors. I am so proud to be a Bruin, like Ray and Jim.

[@BuddyBoy68]

Hi there! This is Andrew Erroch fae Paisley in Scotland here. Thank you for this video. I am grateful to the movie, but only because it introduced me to The Doors, my all-time favourite band. I did very much enjoy the movie, when I saw it in the cinema and I did want to know much more, so I looked and found the truth about Jim Morrison and The Doors. The more I discovered, the bigger the fan I became. I was lucky to see Ray Manzarek and Robby Kreiger as Riders on the Storm with Ian Astbury from The Cult on lead vocals in Glasgow on the 15th of June 2007. That was awesome. I've also been to see an excellent tribute act called The Doors Alive in Glasgow's O2 ABC on the 30th of March 2018. Another great night with the best music. They will be back in Glasgow again this November. I may well buy a ticket if I'm not out of the country. Æ 🙏

[@jackypatterson9566]

Been a Doors fan for over 50 years and consider myself well versed in their history. Stone's portrayal of Jim was way off base..Jim was a highly intelligent, very well read and educated young man. Ok, he had his wild side but not to the extent shown in this picture. However the movie did let the younger generation know who The Doors were, however exaggerated.

[@angrydrunkengerman2819]

As a freshman in high school in 91 I would have been that idiot kid that assumed the movie was true. I would have been the idiot kid that, to some degree, emulated the movie and pushed life to excess. I'm sure they'll make a Kurt Cobain movie any day now and I'll get pissed about that. I'll be the one posting in someone else's youtube attempt to reintroduce facts. It really is important to learn from the mistakes of others...

[@zyrrhos]

In a 1991 interview Krieger said that "I think Oliver did a really good job" and "it was scary sometimes how much he [Kilmer] was like Jim." And Densmore said in a 2015 Forbes interview, "I think Val Kilmer should have been nominated for an Oscar. He gave me the creeps on the set - he was so close to Jim."

[@j.goebbels2134]

A movie took dramatic license to broaden its cinematic scope? Wow. Never knew that.

[@JesusGomez-ob2qt]

The movie Jim acted more like Kurt Cobain

[@redadamearth]

They're talking about his mannerisms and voice and acting and filmmaking - not the actual historical content.@@zyrrhos

[@Jay-n262]

That scene where he performs not to touch the earth was awesome.

[@LeePresson]

Oliver Stone does what I like to call "using facts to create fiction."

[@Esotereclectic]

Or, "When legends become fact, then print it as fact!"

[@j.goebbels2134]

I call it: "making something people want to watch."

[@LeePresson]

@@j.goebbels2134 Very clever.

[@planetwaft349]

JFK is another good example😮

[@LeePresson]

@@planetwaft349 Definitely. Excellent filmmaking but not exactly accurate.

[@DistantLights]

This is not a truthful movie at all, but I still think it's the best rock biopic. A lot of fun to watch, incredible concert scenes

[@marcforget33]

I listened to all their music a few years before I saw the movie. The impression I got from the music was nothing like what the movie portrays. I've heard both Robbie Krieger and Ray Manzarek confirm what you're saying in this video. Thank you for making this. It helps clarify the person that was Jim Morrison and It exposes Oliver Stone for the hack that he is.

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thanks for watching!

[@user-hz5ju2bz3x]

THANK YOU! for your work on this. I’ve immersed myself in Morrison and The Doors, and appreciate your efforts to redeem Jim from the myths that surround him. Unfortunately, the movie will live on and keep dispensing its misinformation. The band-members’ and friends’ books, the interviews, the concert footage, Jim’s writing are the best ways to learn the truth about the band and Jim.

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thanks for watching!

[@heatherharrington2563]

Thank you so much for this wonderful video! I have been a Doors fan since I was in my teens, and I’m now in my mid 50’s. When the movie came out, I was excited to go see it, but utterly pissed off when I left having watched that awful portrayal. I had read every book I could get my hands on about Jim, his writings, and also read many of the books he enjoyed. This movie, as you said, was a very unfair and inaccurate account. Jim was a beautiful, sensitive soul who loved life and his art to the fullest. And in that loving of life he loved and lived hard, both in the majority of the time where he was a sweet, good guy, funny and shy, and the times he drank and became someone else that he would not have been sober. I met several people who knew him and the most common thing that they all said was he was the nicest guy you’d ever want to meet, was funny, and generous. How Oliver Stone took all that and threw it down the toilet to portray this untrue version of Jim is beyond me. And the saddest thing of all, is that when all the people who knew really him are gone, all we will have left is the books they wrote about him, (which most younger fans don’t read) and this horrible movie. And this is the memory of Jim Morrison that may very well remain…Oliver Stone in leather pants. Hopefully with your help through this video, and more like it, the memory of the talented, beautiful, and wonderful human being Jim really was will not be forgotten. Again, thank you.

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thank you for the kind words! And thank you for watching!!

[@patientmental875]

And also very overrated

[@morrisonreed1]

" the times he drank and became someone else " he drank a lot and sadly could never get free of it .But that was not the totality of who he was .This film could have been so much more .Oliver Stone seems to be a talented idiot

[@averyflowers8819]

❣️🎶❣️🌹❣️

[@desertrose1226]

I wonder if this is why my mother hated Jim. She hated him with a passion. Hated the Doors, and she watched this movie all those years ago. I don't really get why that was. I like the Doors, and Jim was a beautiful looking person, with a great mind. If the books and film is to be believed, then he was a complete asshole, though, so...yeah it's so confusing.

[@christinecollins-holter9854]

Thank you for this. It presented Jim Morrison for what he actually WAS. A beautiful young man, extraordinary gifted and sensitive, who had a serious problem with alcohol and the demons that drinking evidently brought out in him. The film really did his legacy a disservice with its portrayal of him,imo.😢

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thanks for watching!

[@Jayhawk9]

For years now I wish somebody would make another movie about Jim and the doors that tells the truth. Still waiting

[@thechurchoftoddhoward6820]

That’s my goal I’m going to film college and I have an ideas of a new doors movie flash in my head often

[@cloudscapemysterio]

​@@thechurchoftoddhoward6820sounds like a great idea

[@MrDane634]

Between his estate, music rights, and counterparts who are dying rapidly, I don’t think this will ever happen. It’s a miracle (or a nightmare) that the movie happened in the first place after being tossed in the trash initially because it was so hard to get all of the different parties to cooperate. Damn I hope I’m wrong though

[@Jayhawk9]

@@thechurchoftoddhoward6820I hope you can make that happen brother

[@phyllispatterson312]

I lived 1/2 a block from The Whiskey and Viper Room. It was all so great back in the day.

[@rodneyowens4177]

Thank you for this. Thank you for putting a human face on James Douglas Morrison.

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thanks for watching!

[@photoshhere5]

Truth be told. RIP Jim Morrison

[@obiephillips9174]

The movie actually made me a fan of The Doors and Val Kilmer. I have since read many books about Jim and that has helped to fill in the gaps. Truth be told though Jim really did have a wild, rebellious, rude side of him that many people have confirmed.

[@typardee9504]

The best book to read on Morrison is friends gathered

[@normatible9795]

Val Kilmer sang those songs, very similar to joaquin phoenix singing all johnny cash songs in another movie

[@Everyoneisafraidoftheirtruth]

​@@normatible9795 Nope.

[@leafyapril]

That’s a one sided way to look at him when many people have confirmed he was also nice and generous. He was clearly struggling and addiction wasn’t well understood back then

[@ernielanham2396]

Legacy is everything!! Jim was a drunk, but all of those photos and film that show him smiling tell a VERY different story!!!!

[@ZenBen_the_Elder]

Thanks for setting the record straight. I concur that the distortion factor in the movie was the Oliver Stone script. Val Kilmer had the acting chops to play a more nuanced character. That was a squandered opportunity. I hope we get another film, maybe starring Austin Butler.

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thanks for watching!

[@johnlorinc2081]

Excellent job on this video. I interviewed Ray a handful of times back in the day and once I asked him about the movie. He said (might not be verbatim) "It looked great, the songs were great, but everything else was wrong." It would have been interesting had Ray had a chance to direct the film.

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thanks for watching!

[@blakkat4126]

The movie itself was plain fantasy, although Val Kilmer was very good. You can't blame him for a crappy script. Ray Manzerick was downright furious over how they portrayed Jim and The Doors in that movie.

[@zyrrhos]

In a 1991 interview Krieger said that "I think Oliver did a really good job" and "it was scary sometimes how much he [Kilmer] was like Jim." And Densmore said in a 2015 Forbes interview, "I think Val Kilmer should have been nominated for an Oscar. He gave me the creeps on the set - he was so close to Jim." Densmore added: Now the late great Ray [Manzarek] went to film school. He wanted to direct the movie at one point before Oliver. You know, come on! Are you going to give millions of dollars to a guy with a student resume [laughs]? Ray was on Oliver so much that I don’t know if he was allowed on the set for a while. He was trying to tell Oliver how to make the movie. Mainly Ray wanted it to be about none of the darker side of Jim. Well, that’s ludicrous. Maybe Oliver focused quite a bit on that, but I love him for giving it a go.

[@leafyapril]

Great video! Thank you! I’m so tired of Jim being portrayed as some monster who I wanna say almost tortured people around him 24/7 with his behavior when that’s far from the truth.

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thanks for watching!

[@scottharrison9083]

What a terrific job, thanks for setting the record straight. Jim deserves it.

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thanks for watching!

[@RedyPiper]

I love that Stone made the band even more mythical

[@den264]

First saw the band on the BBC's "Old Grey Whitle Test" late night show. Followed and loved them since. I find the production of their early albums to be superb.

[@stevev8079]

What a disappointing movie that was, wish we’d get another flick to do him justice, can’t believe how bad Stone blew it.

[@wesleybrown4397]

It wasn't a biography about Jim Morrison or a documentary about him either.

[@stevev8079]

@ who said it was? It was however a gross exaggeration and embarrassing portrayal.

[@matthewschwartz6607]

Your research here was FANTASTIC! Thanks for doing this . Yeah, the scene with him trying to kill Pam really ruined the movie for me .

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thanks for watching!

[@TheFuzzyboy1976]

With so many autobiography films of rock bands lately , I think The Doors need a new film that is as accurate as this video , the only thing that will be such a shame is not having Val Kilmer acting in it , Val nailed it acting as Jim Morrison even tho it was not really how Jim was in reality but yeah , The Doors need a new film made

[@speccyfilms8387]

I never refer to this movie as "The Doors" or "The Doors Movie". I only call it "Oliver Stone's The Doors". Because that's exactly what it is. Oliver Stone's misguided view on who The Doors and Jim Morrison were. I love the update to the video by the way. The original is honestly one of my favourite videos ever uploaded to KZbin.

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Wow, thank you!

[@MJEvermore853]

"Oliver's Folly".

[@roberttyler7774]

As the child of a military family, I know the type of disassociate behavior that Jim felt. The "bar" is set high from the getgo. Oliver Stone,if that's his real name, saw a paycheck using a controversial man as a lottery ticket.

[@italianchicky888]

i refused to watch it

[@globalwarmhugs7741]

I dated a guy who was obsessed with the film, rather than the actual story of his life. Lol More the fool,, me.

[@frankzappa1191]

Gracias por publicar esto ,admiro a Jim y siempre se me hizo injusto la manera como lo retratan .

[@alxr.4522]

Love this! Thank you for shining a light on the REAL Jim. The movie only showed the crazy character, not the true soul of Jim. He was such a profoundly amazing human, in sooo many kind and beautiful ways. I’m gonna share this with as many people as I can.✌🏼❤️

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thank you!!

[@steveharvey2102]

Same here. I thought it was entertaining and informative. Now I just got to go tell my friends. You'd be amazed by how many of them can't figure out the whole, computer equals information thing ;) Lol

[@joejones9520]

"Where's your will to be weird," is anachronistic; no one spoke like that back then.

[@froggy187888]

Death and my cock are the world I can forgive my injuries in the name of Wisdom Luxury Romance

[@enjoirich]

Thank you for doing this. I have been a fan of The Doors since I was a kid, and my introduction to them was the Stone movie. I'm glad the movie was made because it introduced me to a band that I would otherwise never have had access to at that age, but sorry to see people take Stones' depiction as reality. To be sure, I did not know this man, he was just my hero when I was young... I wanted to say thank you for putting a more human face on Jim. Really great work.

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thanks for watching!

[@edeck889]

+Rich Cummings Oliver Stone's film on the film is also my introduction to "The Doors" and their dynamic, amazing music. Hollywood is unfortunately in the business to solely entertain and not necessarily to educate. Most biopics that come out of Tinsletown nowaday is scripted and filmed to sensationalize and not tell the whole truth smh.

[@mattjohnson1775]

Hahaha l loved the doors and got my first cassette tape/ the double decker with 2 cassestes in 6th grade around 92 l think. The very best of l beleive its called. But Jim was my hero too for quite a few years. I was truly obsessed. Im 42 now and unfortunately l dont get much joy from anything anymore. I wish l still did

[@steveharvey2102]

It's true! There's also some good docs out there, made in the old days, when vhs was the thing. Lol Thankfully a lot of them are here, on the tube :) Cheers from Canada

[@BubbaZen10]

I really love how Robby always spoke so fondly of him.

[@Jffeeney3rd]

I’m always telling friends about the staggering amount of inaccuracies or flat out fiction in the flick. Glad to see someone put it all together.

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thank you!

[@franknada8235]

@@TheDirtyDoors Extremely well done break down of the inaccuracies. Ovations sir 👏👏👏

[@penelopejoann]

I had The Doors poster in the living room of my very first apartment in 1998. The Doors were definitely present and relevant in my youth and young adulthood.

[@matthewschwartz6607]

The Doors are my favorite band . I liked this movie when I first saw it , but then as I got to really research it, I couldn’t get past how it portrayed Jim. Oliver really screwed him. Someone else should do a movie about Jim that does him (AND the band !) justice. Thanks for doing this . What was your favorite biography of him or the Band?

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thanks for watching! I recommend a few books at the end of the video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z5rKmn53g8dkbLM

[@TurpinTime75114]

Jim Morrison showed how I could chill and relax, just by the way he walked.

[@tayafey209]

That movie is showing again at the cinemas in my country, and after rewatching it yesterday there I was actually glad that the place was empty but only me, because I hate the thought that people who are new to Doors or have a slight picture would perceive the band through this... And that presentation of Nico literally hurt me. I enjoyed the songs of course though, the little easter eggs, the clothing and interiors, but the movie did the Doors dirty.

[@dustystewart430]

As a film maker, particularly in his films about real people and real events, Oliver Stone is a revisionist; he takes the writer/director’s justification of “artistic license” to a level that converts actual history into complete fiction, with that fiction often bordering on complete nonsense. In the technical sense, he’s an exceptional filmmaker; his uses of lenses, shots, locations and lighting are fantastic, and as an editor (or overseeing his various editors and being hands-on in the process) he’s incredible, perhaps even a genius. A perfect example of his talent for editing is in “JFK”, where the transitions/edits he uses between actual news footage and shots of his own creations are so seamless and fluid, that at times it was difficult to determine which was which…and that takes talent and skill, and it’s impressive. But, his motivation in doing so was to fool people into believing that the fictional parts of his own creation were actual events. The people who are most susceptible to believing that Stone’s fake history is actual history, are mostly those who are too young to know (or remember) the real people and events that are the subjects of the films he makes. “JFK”, “Nixon”, “The Doors”, are all Oliver Stone films where he’s taken history and then fictionalized it. Why? I’m not sure…perhaps his agenda is personal, in that he wants to push his own perceptions or beliefs as being historical fact, or, maybe he knows that by doing so, he’s creating controversy, knowing that controversy in films can be hugely lucrative…perhaps it’s both of these reasons. It’s sad, really, because with his exceptional talents as a filmmaker, he could make films about real people and events that are both accurate and commercially successful. Who knows? Maybe he prefers being a revisionist because he finds it more exciting, and he enjoys getting all the attention that controversy brings. Anyhooo… FWIW.

[@kirolos9907]

keep up the good work, we appreciate all the new updates on anything related to the doors

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thank you!

[@avidodd26]

"i wonder why people like to believe i'm high all the time. i guess... maybe they think someone else can take their trip for them" the man was no druggie rockstar clown. he was a genius far ahead of his time.

[@mtp4430]

Great video. I have always loathed Oliver Stone's one-dimensional portrait of Jim. In fact, it was character assassination. Thank you for making this video 👍

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thanks for watching!

[@mtp4430]

@@TheDirtyDoors Your Welcome 👍

[@mikegutridge284]

Wow! You made an excellent video here! Very well done! Thanks for posting it! I can remember watching the film decades ago and thinking "Wow, Jim was such a jerk!" It's nice that your video clears up SO many inaccuracies!!

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thanks for watching!

[@JOVONO]

Imagine how good a Cameron Crowe Doors movie would have been Like if it had the heart and turmoil of his film Almost Famous that would have been great

[@DocFaust]

They should make a new Doors movie so Jim can enchant a whole new generation. Jim represents freedom and understanding all of life is an illusion.

[@sirobin171]

Thank you for making this documentary.

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thanks for watching!

[@allybelle7022]

This is great. Thank you for so concisely setting the record straight. The only good thing about this movie is it got me interested in The Doors back in the ‘90s & I learned the truth by being an avid reader and collector. So sad this movie was ever made. ~ally belle

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thank you!

[@wes2481]

Jim was a people person, I read that even when he had a car he would still hitch hike around L.A. and he'd have idea's writing them on any paper at hand. I watch and listen to as many interviews with just Jim. Interviews with the whole band were mostly just music related. I can't believe after Jim died they put out two more albums as the Doors, you can hear it just doesn't hold up. Then for money every so often a live album would get released. Jim was the glue, the Shaman that lead the music they all added too.

[@davideaston6944]

Thank you for the effort and research put into this. I love The Doors music, and consider them to be arguably the greatest American R & R band ever, for their collective talent, presentation, breadth of style, and overall music, despite their relatively short career (with Jim, that is). It's tragic if so many people take the film as their template for being either introduced to, or as an understanding of, the band. Cheers 🥰

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thanks for watching!

[@MarkZiemba-lu8rd]

I am glad you cleared up the movie myths of the Doors. I hope other Doors fans find this film and understand the truth.

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thanks for watching!

[@caliblue2]

Thank you for making this! While I know the film was a creative endeavor and not a biography I remember when I saw it my ex and I were shocked because we were such huge doors fans. It just kind of left a bad taste in your mouth and you knew it just wasn’t true. You don’t take a legend like that and throw him under the bus. I’ve read every book written about Jim and my favorite is actually Wild Child because he’s depicted as the sensitive creative artist that he was.

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thanks for watching! Unfortunately, there is a lot of provably false information in the book Wild Child. She greatly exaggerated her relationship with Jim.

[@Gertieness]

Great doc guys, well researched, produced, done, TY!

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thanks for watching!

[@paulpeacock6346]

I don’t think anyone could have been as talented as Jim was without a lot of hard work and devotion to his craft. But the film makes it seem like he was just born talented. It just doesn’t work that way. Great video!

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thanks for watching!

[@sharksinc.6707]

If you think Ollie Stone took creative license with this movie, you should consider the complete factual account he gave of the film "JFK."

[@officerockers8177]

I was 21 when the movie came out. Turned me into a fan because of the music. Never watched it again since then. And would never watch it again as it would only annoy me too much. Thx for setting the record straight.

[@allyogaworks119]

I can remember being genuinely excited to watch the movie when came out and WOW what a disappointment! I could not watch it ever again. Leaving Val Kilmer’s performance aside the there was NOTHING to the other band members other than to revolve around Jim! Meg Ryan was hopelessly miscast. It was called “The Doors” and not “Jim and Pam” for crying out loud! It’s like Oliver Stone wished he had lived like this instead of going to Vietnam to get shot at.

[@sandysmith9869]

This movie made me want to buy all my Doors vinyl records. I love the music, not necessarily the Oliver Stone movie. Now I need to read my book (Jim Morrison), dark star by Dylan Jones. Awsome video.

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thanks for watching!

[@stevemolina9035]

As a DOORS fan since 1967, thank you for this excellent BIO! Miss you "Jimbo".

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thanks for watching!

[@galesito1733]

Very good video. I've always assumed that the film was based on the myths about Jim that stoned teenagers told each other when they listened to The Doors. A lot of things in the film were versions of the myths I was told when I listened to The Doors and got stoned back in the 80s.

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thanks for watching!

[@jeremiahrose4681]

Maybe one day we can get a Doors movie that is more accurrate.

[@truthhurts79]

Nobody wants the laid back drama in a movie... We want action, and Oliver stone delivered it

[@leafyapril]

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[@truthhurts79]

@@leafyapril ya because you rather hear talk instead of excitement in a movie... It was Jim Morrison's rebellious and destructive nature that made him exciting... You want a safe rock star that's easy going go watch a movie about REM or the pet shop boys LOL

[@jy285]

Big fan of the film and the band. This was very enlightening. Thank you.

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thanks for watching!

[@JS-jv3cb]

Thank you for making this video. It’s very important for everyone to know that the film by Oliver Stone is a work of fiction. A vicious attack on Jim Morrison at a convenient time when Jim couldn’t defend himself. Thanks again. I hope everyone learns the truth.

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thanks for watching!

[@m-bronte]

I'm glad you made this, I really felt like Oliver twisted the story and painted Jim with a dark brush. This movie was disappointing I watched The Doors once and could hardly get through it.

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thanks for watching!

[@JK..INFX.D....]

Its sad, a lot of ppl from my generation grew up with that movie , and were programed as a kid . We see him as Val, another Kid Rock, not the guy who asked for the complete works of Niche instead of a car for his graduation present.

[@chrisburton6476]

A thoroughly enjoyable interview, lovely to hear John and Robby, I also got a lot of insight from reading John's book 30 year's ago now!

[@brettzimmerman4566]

Great content thanks for creating this, interesting stuff. Oliver has a habit of just doing whatever he wants, not sticking to the true history.

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thanks for watching!

[@ResistanceQuest]

I haven't even finished this yet but the level of care, respect, and attention to detail is admirable. I recently rewatched the film and also listened, for the first time, to many interviews with Jim and I was pretty sure that the man in the film and man in the interviews could not be the same man. It's an interesting and fairly solid film in many ways, but I imagine Stone needed something more fantastical, more larger than life, or perhaps he just did what Russ Meyer and Roger Ebert did when they wrote "Beyond the Valley of the Dolls": they mainly just wrote what they _imagined_ their subject matter was like. Who knows. Regardless, this clearing-up-of-the-facts is invaluable. Cheers

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thanks for watching!

[@matthewfarmer2520]

Thanks man for sharing this, it's better to understand the truth about Jim Morrison, he likes to drink thats the irish in him, i have Irish in me with some German. Jim dad was a general in the military he had a sister and little brother. His dad was the old way and jim was the new generation. Im 47 now and been a fan since the late 80s from my older brother hearing them and i over herad the music as he like play it loud lol.

[@user-qm7nw7vd5s]

Never saw the movie, but did listen to several long, in-depth interviews with Jim Morrison. The guy was obviously totally aware, articulate, thoughtful and funny. Oliver Stone is so full of himself, I’m amazed people take his work seriously. He did a good job on the screenplay for Scarface, and he demonstrates a good understanding of the language of filmmaking on other projects. But he is no Francis Ford Coppola!

[@deannaboots8038]

Thank you for sharing the real truths from friends who knew him.

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thanks for watching!

[@E4734-d2n]

I’m not going to lie I love this movie, the insane over the top style combined with the music of the doors is amazing, but it’s the Jim on screen, that isn’t our Jim Morrison, it feels like a Doors fan fiction, which is fine, but it fails to explain the separation between fact and fiction, so a lot of people leave the movie believing Jim Morrison was an insane drug addict, which isn’t true, while I do love the movie I can’t help but feel disappointed at the inaccuracies and how it portrays Jim Morrison, thank you for bringing light to this, I hope more people can understand how Morrison and the band truly were as people!

[@jackypatterson9566]

Very well said.

[@truthhurts79]

Why are ppl always trying to deny Jim Morrison out of control behavior??? That's what made him awesome as well... I advise you to read John densmore riders on the storm... It's basically the same thing

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Jim certainly had a wild, "out of control" side. But that wasn't his only side.

[@truthhurts79]

@@TheDirtyDoors absolutely... Jimbo vs Jim Morrison... But it's like ppl want to bury his aggressive and darker side under the rug and I acknowledge those traits equally made Morrison unique as his kinder gentler traits.... The whole entire package made Morrison bad ass...the Desirable and undesirable

[@ΠαντελήςΑδριανόςΟικονόμου]

@@truthhurts79 Everyone has a "darker side" after all.

[@raym909]

wow, thanks for all the hard work to put this together. i lived the 60's doors days. the best music that i had, i still have the LPs

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thanks for watching!

[@heart_of_Pluto]

As a kid seeing the film I wouldn't have known to discern between the Morrison in the film and the real life Jim. But as I've grown up and got a dose of reality it's easy to be able to know of the real Jim Morrison as a person. thanks for putting this out there to call out the BS.

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thanks for watching!

[@MSJChem]

I just watched the whole video and I'm not even a Doors fan. I remember watching the movie about 20 years ago and found it entertaining but this video gave me the real picture of Jim Morrison. Great work.

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thanks for watching!

[@yatah]

As a fan, there are many things I learned in this video! Thanks for the thorough research and taking the time to put it all together. cheers

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thanks for watching!

[@gregorykrug8034]

Great video! When I think of that hypothetical about what person, alive or dead, would I have liked to have met, Jim Morrison is always on my short list.

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thanks for watching!

[@heathersaintonge2039]

You know it’s so true, unfortunately this movie had influenced my perception of Jim in a negative way. I always loved the doors even after seeing the film but I really had thought he was this jerk that it had portrayed. It’s actually really nice and reassuring to hear all these personal accounts from the people closest to him, talking about how kind, funny and charismatic he truly was. The defamation of his character in this film is almost a bigger tragedy than his death 😢 He really was a creative genius that left this world way too soon. RIP Jim Morrison❤️✌️

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thanks for watching!

[@cowel8734]

I remember being scared of the film as a child because I saw that hotel scene of him acting like a demon and just felt that if he was real, he must be purely wicked

[@simu6244]

Thank you for this video and getting the record straight.

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thank you for watching!

[@mvortex701]

I was about to see that movie since I’m listening The Doors nowadays, but now that I’m watching your analysis, I noticed that the movie hace a bunch of lies, I think I’m avoiding that pretentious piece of crap, great work, excellent video!! 👍👍👍👍👍

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thanks for watching!

[@redadamearth]

It's actually worth seeing, as there's some great filmmaking in it and Kilmer is very good. But yeah, grain of salt, obviously.

[@seamasmanly]

Thanks for making this. I come back to their music forever…

[@TheDirtyDoors]

Thanks for watching!