The Unlikely Events That Led To The Titanic Disaster - Who Sank The Titanic - Documentary

[@fakumadda1632]

It's usually never one thing that leads to a tragedy but a chain of events. Titanic is a perfect example of this.

[@aWomanFreed]

Yeah, like the creation of the Federal Reserve

[@mikkel066h]

@@aWomanFreed Yea let's make a comment about tragedy political to fit your narrative. Totally not selfish and showing a lack of care in anyway.

[@aWomanFreed]

@@mikkel066h grow up

[@zarabee2880]

Agreed! The lower bulkheads, the rivets, the speed, the weather, the massive iceberg that should’ve melted more, the fact Murdoch would have been crazy to ram the iceberg head on, the Marconi guys, the binoculars, the crew of the Californian, the fact the captain moved south to ‘avoid’ the iceberg, the lack of drill and organisation of the passengers I could go on 😢 it’s insane, all this single domino’s…remove one or two & disaster would’ve been averted 😢😢😢😢

[@dawnbreaker2912]

Reminds me of an analogy I once heard about plane crashes: it's like you're playing a slot machine with 10 reels, and each reel has 10 graphics on it, with one 'skull' graphic being a crash (or other major disaster), and you have to get all 10 skulls on a single spin for there to be a problem. While on any given flight, those reels spin every minute or so. The odds of getting all 10 reels on that one symbol are virtually impossible, but with ~100,000 commercial flights every day, it's going to happen occasionally.

[@Wiseguy248]

Felt like everyone was at fault, the wireless room, the builder overseer, the officer 2 taking the key for the binoculars, the captain ordering a full speed course at night. What a chaos.

[@mikkel066h]

Wireless was not much at fault since the Califonia would've gone to bed anyway. Meaning that the likelyhood of being able to contact her was very low, even without the "rude" message. Which was quite common at that time as well. Rude message aside, the main purpose of the marconi telegram at the time was to send messages for passengers. While warning about Ice or other ship status reports were much more of a secondary purpose at that time period. That is also why the wireless room were employed by the Marconi company and not by the shipping, it was a business minded trade. The Califonia wireless room had only one Marconi officer employed for its voage, thus meaning the wireless officer could not be able to be on station for a 24 hour shift at a time, so had to get of shift for the night regardless of the message to "shut up". So no the wireless room can not be at any fault, since everything were pretty standard at that night and the Marconi telegram was not viewed as an essantiel distress tool yet in shipping industry. Even though hindsight being 20/20 we know that a ship should allways be able to be reached in case of an emergancy. Same goes for the binoculars, I highly doubt they would've made much of a difference since you have to be pretty much looking directly at the object you want to identify for them to be usefull. It was a still night with little light and like they said in the video. They had to be pretty much on top of the iceberg before they could see it anyway doing those conditions and binoculars don't give any better night time visibility. Binoculars are not used to spot things, they are used to confirm objects far away spotted by the naked eye.

[@mikkel066h]

@@astitvayaduvanshi312 I know… don’t know what point you are trying to bring responding to my comment.

[@jameszeigler9353]

Ismay for cutting corners on lifeboats...

[@jameszeigler9353]

​@Astitva yaduvanshi No White Star Line for building the ship with scrap parts and expecting it to hold up with a impact such as a large iceberg...

[@mikkel066h]

@@astitvayaduvanshi312 How are wireless at fault?

[@MICKEYISLOWD]

It is very moving that they still commemorate the people who lost their lives every yr since the accident by throwing out flowers and reeves. I'm so touched by this.

[@raven4k998]

you have to love how they blame the iron rivets when the ice berg would have still punched through the steel hull even if it was welded together it was an ice berg with a lot of mass Costa Concordia is proof of this one being that she hit something to massive for the materials to tolerate hitting the damage might have been worse had she been built stronger with a welded hull can you imagine if the hull plate were ripped open like a ribbon like Costa Concordia

[@scottwarren4998]

@@raven4k998 Thats a good theory. But my theory is that it would have been a bit better if Titanic had been built with with iron-bolts instead of slag-bolts. However, the real fault was not to have enough lifeboats.

[@raven4k998]

@@scottwarren4998 yeah lifeboats cause rivets or or welded the hulls would still have breached and the ship sank the same as she didn't have an icebreaker hull

[@scottwarren4998]

@@raven4k998 uehum, what was that? use comma/commas, so i understand you as good as possible.

[@jerryknuckles736]

I blame the douche who took the binoculars out of the nest, and the ice.

[@177SCmaro]

"only two hours" is kinda misleading. Titanic suffering significant damage for an ocean liner and it was pretty amazing she stayed afloat as long as she did.

[@billhoskoformayorofsaintpa1295]

TY again.

[@Roscoe.P.Coldchain]

Yeah indeed, especially when you consider the weight of it, I bet there were pressure blasts of air going off all over the ship..But I suppose that could work against you that you have 2 hours to think of the inevitable...

[@mikejones9961]

2 hr 40m

[@jasonhowell9723]

Agreed..Thomas Andrews who designed the Titanic believed the ship had a hour maybe two after he saw the damage..she lasted 2 hrs and 40 mins.

[@esgiereyes5082]

Modern ships doesn't even last that long

[@richardbanks6637]

The more I learn about Titanic, the more I see some of the worst mistakes are the most profoundly mundane. Not organizing to make sure that there were spare binoculars in place, or checks. Not slowing down enough when there were exacerbated hazards ahead. Not having processes for making certain safety messages were flagged up and done properly before everyday correspondence by the operators. Ignoring potential distress signals. And all this led to such a legendary event.

[@PuffKitty]

Like rows of different color dominos looping around but ultimately joining all together to collapse

[@timothyreed8417]

It’s easy to criticize a disaster 110 years ago… binoculars were never assigned to the lookouts…most captains believed the “naked eye” was best for spotting an object…SOP was to go fast thru a dangerous area to avoid danger…

[@T3361t]

@@timothyreed8417 there were binoculars but the other lookout guy accidentally took his locker key with him when he left the ship and the binoculars were in his locker.

[@timothyreed8417]

@@T3361t binoculars were for the use by the bridge officers…none were assigned to the lookouts…captains wanted the lookouts to spot- not identify objects…most captains believed the “naked eye” should be used by lookouts…the other “lookout guy” was a bridge officer…

[@joysynmonds9082]

She was doomed at the outset. How wicked is that? A fire in the engine room, weakened iron rivets, lowered bulkheads designed only for h/o colkision, tired sailors, no glasses to view correctly. Sailing through iceberg alley l!!! A Captain - inadequate and concerned only with speed! Good job he went down. But no-one else deserved to. In Southampton, there is a monument in memory of the boiler engine-men. Poor damn guys! The musicians who played until the end. The very reason I will NOT yearn to sail anywhere!

[@Lavoye]

So many things had to happen at the exact moment it did for that tragedy to happen. It's so interesting to think of. And the journey of the iceberg was a nice addition to that documentary.

[@falcon664]

46:55 "Trapping hundreds of men below" Absolutely not true. Every watertight compartment had ladders to the upper levels which were routinely used by the crew. The watertight doors could also be opened individually.

[@RobbyHouseIV]

I know. There's no reason why they had to put such a patently false statement in this documentary.

[@dancingtrout6719]

@@RobbyHouseIV it was crazy enough without spinning yarns...

[@jerry2york]

I've been to 4 Titanic exhibits, one had a huge piece of the side with hundreds of rivets and actually looked very stable. One exhibit had a wall of ice and we were challenged to hold our hand on the wall as long as possible. This supposedly represented the temperature of the ocean that might. I lasted about 30 to 40 seconds. The comment that this was a horrible way to die really resonated with me.

[@Truecrimeresearcher224]

The rivits were not weak. They were good quality and the force of the iceberg caused them to fail Olympic had the same ones and they held up even with getting hit by another ship

[@beverlyarcher546]

I believe that exhibit is actually in Pidgeon Forge TN

[@jeeither]

@@Truecrimeresearcher224 I read they were weak, that the iron used had too much slag.

[@yesitreallyisme]

@@Truecrimeresearcher224 If the rivets tested were off the "big piece" they brought up, were supposed to be steel for the flexing of the ship. Also they used a giant rivet punching machine to hammer those in, not hammered by hand. Another thing to mention, all the rivets below D deck I think were countersunk weakening them more.

[@Hooibeest2D]

Dying of hyperthermia is actually not a bad way to die and rather peace full since the body shutdown slowly and you won't really notice and just fall asleep. Heating is really really nasty tho! Hurts like hell when you've been half frozen.

[@juanmelendezrivera6085]

The correct procedure for iceberg hazard vigilance was to slow down or stop as the Californian did. The use of high power search lights and binoculars for guard posts was also needed and available for antique steel ships of that time. Negligence of the telegraph operator who received the loud emergency iceberg danger report from the Californian and did not handed the message on time to the captain, contributed to the Titanic tragedy.

[@Sarah0583]

“The correct procedure for iceberg hazard vigilance was to slow down or stop as the Californian did” : no it wasn’t. Here is an extract of the testimony of J.B. Ranson, Captain of the Baltic, at the British inquiry : 24978. What is your individual practice if ice is reported? - How do you mean, clear weather or foggy weather. At night? 24979. (The Commissioner.) At night, in clear weather? - We go full speed whether there is ice reported or not. 24980. As far as you know, is that the practice of all liners on this course? - It is. 24981. (Mr. Scanlan.) Do you double the look-outs at night? - No, not in clear weather. Examined by Sir ROBERT FINLAY. 24982. With regard to your speed, you know the practice in the Atlantic; if the weather were clear and ice reported, do you keep up your speed? - We keep up our speed. 24983. And is that your invariable practice? - It has always been my practice. 24984. (The Commissioner.) What is the speed of your boat? - Sixteen knots. 24985. (Sir Robert Finlay.) You said the speed of your boat the "Baltic" was 16 knots? - Yes. 24986. Have you been on other boats in the Atlantic? - Yes. 24987. Faster boats? - Yes, the "Oceanic," the "Majestic," and the "Teutonic." 24988. How many knots an hour would they make? - Twenty to twenty-one. 24989. Is the practice you have spoken of one which prevailed with regard to ships of that class as well as your boat the "Baltic"? - Yes. 24990. You know, of course, the Atlantic well? - Yes. 24991. Was that practice always pursued by all masters of liners? - Yes, for the last 21 years to my knowledge.

[@juanmelendezrivera6085]

@@Sarah0583 Thanks for the historical witnesses testimony information on the emergency warning procedure for ships on 1912. But maintaining full speed of 22 knots on a dark night sent the blind moving Titanic directly to disaster. My opinion was based on the video and the fact that radars were not available on 1912. Negligence of the captain by not providing binoculars to the watching crew, and the telegraph operator not handing the captain on time the iceberg warning message sent by the Californian contributed to the Titanic fatal surprise collision with the iceberg. Lesson learned to emphasize on safety preparedness to save lives in events of surprise ship accidents. Sorrow and respect to the victims and let the name Titanic rest in peace. Thanks.

[@juanmelendezrivera6085]

What I learn from history videos on the Titanic tragedy is the emphasis on safety to minimize loss of lives . With today's satellite technology, bigger modern ships still sink if caught in an accident. Safety is the preparedness to deal with catastrophic events and still be able to rescue and save lives. Thanks for the historical witnesses report information.

[@timothyreed8417]

Going fast was SOP for the time period. That was the correct procedure…high power search lights were never used to see ahead…the light would destroy “the night” vision of the lookouts… binoculars were not assigned to the lookouts…most captains believed the “naked eye” was the best tool for the lookouts to use…the telegram was not labeled properly by the person who sent it…the Californian was stopped because it couldn’t go thru or around the ice field….

[@williamdennis7652]

There were so many unsung heros in Titanics crew. May there actions never be forgotten

[@randomhumanoidblob4506]

"From the day she was designed she was doomed" Which is why Olympic had such a long and safe career. Jeeesus.

[@mintbrisk5961]

That makes it sound like the Titanic was test dummy, an experiment..

[@randomhumanoidblob4506]

@Mint Brisk That's kinda what the conspiracy theory relies on. Olympic came first and had already had a serious accident before Titanic was completed so the theory runs that Olympic was a crock that WS intended to sink by switching the two around, then sailing Olympic as Titanic. Something like that... Even more impressive though, cos Olympic not only was first in service, lasted thirty-ish years including serving the whole of WW1, but she did it all having had a serious collision right at the start of her career that had opened up at least two of the compartments that then had to be repaired. Grand Old Lady indeed :-)

[@asasinmas]

@@randomhumanoidblob4506 its falso though. The damage to Olympic totaled 180k. The sister ships were insured for 10 million, or 5 million a piece. When the titanic sank the damages and money owed came to 7.5 million, or 2.5 million over the insurance. White star line had to pay that out of pocket. Stupid for a company to sink a ship and have to pay out 2.5 million instead of paying 180k to fix it

[@randomhumanoidblob4506]

@asasinmas Why's it false? She had a serious collision at the start of her career then went on to drive 30 years of Atlantic passage and WW1. Sorry, I'm not with you. I don't BELIEVE the conspiracy if that's what you mean?

[@escos0410]

Actually her keel was buckled from HMS hawke and it is wrote and documented after the inspection and the verdict going for the hawke the insurance company wouldn’t pay out never mentioned in books published now about the 3 sisters But there is one book. 1st edition Titanic and her sisters

[@albiedam3312]

When they're saying it's unsinkable. It was a news article that came out saying because due to the double bottom hull, the news article described it as "unsinkable." I highly doubt Ismay and the rest of the designers and engineers really thought she was truly unsinkable

[@dovetonsturdee7033]

Neither, of course, did anyone from White Star ot Harland & Wolff make such a claim.

[@dovetonsturdee7033]

@@jamalbr3251 The reputation of the Olympic design was probably enhanced by the fact that she comfortably survived the effect of having her hull pierced by the ram bow of a protected cruiser. The low speed, of eight knots, may well have been a major factor, as HMS Hawke, although quite elderly in 1911, was probably capable of eighteen knots. That said, no-one in authority ever suggested that the Olympics were 'unsinkable.'

[@shawnjensen3896]

There’s no doubt that the titanic was unsinkable to a certain point of damage they never dreamed they’d go on beyond that point

[@cantfindmykeys]

Nothing is unsinkable or indestructible when Mother Nature unleashes her fury. I was swept up in an 8 ft flood during a hurricane and I felt completely powerless.

[@galesal1109]

Yet, when the New York office of the White Star Line was informed that Titanic was in trouble, White Star Line Vice President P.A.S. Franklin announced ” We place absolute confidence in the Titanic. We believe the boat is unsinkable.” By the time Franklin spoke those words Titanic was at the bottom of the ocean. It would seem that the White Star Line President was also influenced by the ‘myth’.

[@toddkurzbard]

One error in this is stating that the rivet quality was below the standards of the day; in fact, it was the STANDARD grade used in ALL ships of the time: "best" grade. There was one higher, "Best-Best", but that was only used in special cases where the highest in strength was absolutely needed, such as the gun barrels of the big main guns of a battleship. It was not used to build the hulls of merchant steamers. So this documentary is in error on this point.

[@apollo5751]

Sorry, bullshit. It made no difference what rivet is claimed, this was the very best construction at the time, except the Titanic had a massive hole blown in the side. And not from an iceberg.

[@apollo5751]

@@WLeibrandt That's nice. In truth everything was wrong, but thank you for sharing your concept.

[@apollo5751]

@@WLeibrandt It's a terrible thing to refute evidence. Good luck in your endeavors.

[@861622259]

lots of errors in it

[@fearlessfosdick160]

There is more than one error here, and I honestly lost patience with this video in the first thirty seconds. The people who made this documentary are just a bunch of sensationalism merchants.

[@BillDusty]

Why do people keep saying she sank in two hours? She struck the berg at 11:40pm and went under at 2:20am. That’s two hours and forty minutes - over two-and-a-half hours, and nearly three. (Had the gangway door not been opened and left open as it reached water level, it might have made it three hours.)

[@wahsdarb1013]

Correct, that's the time she took to sink. But I believe Andrews believed she would go down in one hour or 2 at most. So they believed that's how long they had at the time. But as you stated, she took almost 3 hours!

[@bunzeebear2973]

You have to allow space to get out of the "whirlpool or suction hole" as the last bit disappeared. It would suck your boat down as well. There was no gangway door open as each section was shuttered closed electrically on initial breach creating a watertight seal. Not shown on this version, but on another version of the Titanic. The way to get out was by climbing a ladder and opening a hatch door in the ceiling. . The coal fire was not an issue either as there was always cold water on the otherside so the steel never got hot as the fire never could overcome the cooling effect of the ocean water on the outside. . Ramming a berg that size head on at full speed probably would not help either, as that would SHORTEN the Titanic making it a smaller boat.

[@SamM-gl9zc]

Also, you can add in portholes - there were a Lot of them - certainly, some of them were left open, and I've heard that just 4 open portholes would equal the water being let in by the iceberg damage.

[@SamM-gl9zc]

One thing I've always wondered, and it may be Really stupid 😂, but if they lowered some kind of canvas or tarps over the side and let them get sucked into the tears in the ship, could it have slowed down the water enough that the pumps keep her afloat another few hours hours, until Carpathia arrives...

[@falcon664]

Rivets came from a number of suppliers. What H&W was dealing with was that they needed 6 MILLION of them to construct Olympic and Titanic. Harder steel rivets could be installed by the hydraulic equipment, but those machines could not be used on curved sections of the hull. The iron rivets were #3 Best- the standard and correct for the design at the time.

[@raven4k998]

dude it was an iceberg who's to say the ship's damage that sank her would be any different from steel rivets since the impact involved so much mass pushing the ship into the iceberg it's not like it would have made any difference that mattered when one they opened up door letting water into the ship and they didn't keep the engines running full ahead which would have increased her turning rate by some amount

[@scottwarren4998]

@@raven4k998 There is no one, nor a single thing to blame for the disaster. The wrought-iron-slag-rivets that they had before bulding them into Titanic were a very little bit weaker than steel-rivets. However, the wrought-iron-slag-rivets were punched into titanic in a wrong way, making the slag again a little bit weaker. But you can't blame the one/ones who ordered titanic to be built that way, they didnt know that slag-rivets got weaker by being punched that way. In the laboratory, the wrought-iron-slag-rivets built in a wrong way failed at about 10 000 of pressure. However, even steel-rivets built in a right way, couldn't take 14 000 of pressure in the laboratory.

[@karenflanagan1961]

Well done may God bless the passengers of Titanic and all crew's who gave all in trying to save lives 🙏.

[@karenflanagan1961]

I've said before if Bruce Ismay I'm getting in a boat period survival instincts hopefully kick in. But some passengers refused the lifeboats out right so what is the crew's supposed to do in those cases they can't force in a boat? & if I could not get in a boat I'm going over the side and take my chances in the water knowing how cold 🤧 it is and try find a boat or something to get onto.

[@ReligiousZombie]

It's amazing how many things contributed to the tragedy, both human and environmental. I would say the two biggest contributors were the fact that someone was trained to allow trivial passenger messages to trump life and death warnings regarding icebergs, and the fact the captain decided to swerve rather than hit the iceberg head on. He should have known or been told about the ship's architecture and have it ingrained in his mind how to properly react.

[@fuzzyfurrymonster]

@@nikkil_99 thanks for putting this here.

[@dbj1852]

I head on collision with the iceberg would have been more deadly just when you factor in physics here the speed of the ship, the density of the iceberg the fact it was over 100 feet tall and 400 feet wide would have sliced the boat in half resulting in it sinking in probably 30 to 40 minutes it’s a misconception it would have been safer it’s not. icebergs are razor sharp and extremely dense.

[@jimcrawford5039]

The captain was in his cabin when the accident happened. It was first officer Murdoch on watch.

[@Hookah_Horns]

That's always blown my mind about the personal wireless messages.

[@corals4508]

Phillips ignoring critical reports, is huge.

[@jobrodie7514]

Titanic was nothing like the greatest loss in modern history. Casualties in the sinking of the Wilhelm Gustloff in 1945 are estimated at 9,600 deaths.

[@brownedward93]

That's a terrible story I've read up on gusloff doubt I spelled that right.the Russian sub captain had to decide what to do. I read it was mostly revenge for the rape and plunder by nazi soldiers, who knows what he reallly thought,almost 10,000 dead is hard to even imagine.

[@tadget0566]

Not counted the same way as it was an act of war not a disaster she was deliberately sunk

[@-saklo-2256]

But it was the first and the largest maritime disaster causing the loss of so many lives around that time... also the ships fame added more to it...

[@SirChadofWick]

also rich people count as like 100 people each so you have to account for that

[@mrdddeeezzzweldor5039]

Regarding setting of the rivets, it should be noted that the manual setting of rivets is a two-part process, not just hammering in a wobbly rivet from one side as shown here in the riveting displays. The rivet setter secures the rivet into the hole up to the head then holds it with a dolly while another riveter on the opposite side of the steel plate immediately hammers the hot rivet from the opposite side and uses a rivet set, creating the mushroomed round head shown in the boiler room scene. A simple 5 second display of this 2-part process of setting the rivet would have made this clear and less like loose rivets were insecurely bounced against the hull plates to mount them.

[@jmr1068204]

I have read that a lot of the rivets in general were made of poor quality metal.

[@copernicofelinis]

That was a riveting story. Thanks.

[@CoffeeHobby]

When the documentary starts with someone saying "she was doomed from the start" I switch off. Because sensationalism of that calibre from someone posed as an expert is infuriating and nothing more than trying to add "drama" to an already awful event that was a one in a million incident.

[@viscountwesley1]

Respectfully, Mr. Louden is one of Titanic's leading experts. His point regards the No, 3 rivets used in the bow section to the parallels. I disagree.

[@elrjames7799]

@@viscountwesley1 The rivet issue is not of practical relevance. Although the Foecke and McCarty metallurgy research team tested the design load capability of a full-strength steel rivet at 20,000 lb and revealed that an external pressure of only 9,000 lb would be needed to make a Titanic rivet fail (because of wrought iron impurities), the estimated kinetic energy before impact was 2,070,000,000 ft lbs, so a full strength rivet would still have failed: merely deforming momentarily (due to superior ductility) rather than fracturing immediately.

[@861622259]

@@viscountwesley1 "Mr. Louden is one of Titanic's leading experts"...can you provide a source for this .......this is not documentary ..........this is a production that sensationally takes the viewer away from the relative facts...........................................and as John pointed out people considered experts such as Senan Maloney and Tim Malton creating sensationalism is infuriating.............................

[@philsurtees]

Well ... that's not exactly what he said, is it? He was trying to say that she might have survived if manufacture had been different. Whether that's true or not is another matter, but it seems safe to assume - since the guy has written a few books and is an expert - that he knows the Olympic survived for more than two decades, without sinking, so he obviously didn't mean Titanic "was doomed from the start", meaning she was always going to sink, and that's probably why he didn't say that. Maybe if you paid more attention, didn't leap to the wrong conclusion, and didn't turn things off the moment you misunderstand something, then you might actually learn a thing or two?

[@philsurtees]

@@861622259 This most certainly IS a documentary. The fact that you don't know what a documentary is, and have an erroneous definition, doesn't change that fact. You ask for a source on Louden being one of the leading experts - which isn't hard to go and find for yourself - and then you make the totally ridiculous claim that this documentary _"sensationally takes the viewer away from the relative facts"._ What ... so ... YOU are an expert now, are you? What are YOUR sources for YOUR completely absurd and unfounded claim? NO ONE mentioned Senan Maloney and Tim Malton - whoever they are - and Timothy Laurence was merely pointed out that the claim that Louden was "posed as an expert" - which implies that he isn't one - is incorrect, because he most certainly is an expert, UNLIKE either the you or the Op.

[@yvonnesmith6152]

I don’t know why Titanic has always moved me to bits….even though there are other maritime disasters that caused higher casualties. Titanic still captures the hearts of so many….so many good men, women and children, it’s still unfathomable

[@nellateea3238]

sure , this is right up there with 911 for example

[@karenflanagan1961]

I agree.

[@arnaudjoly7689]

Wilhelm-Gustloff

[@-saklo-2256]

However it was the first big maritime disaster to cause the loss of so many lives... I read about the Titanic in a small English book chapter in India in my school in the 80s... It was talked about for decades through out the world...

[@thermalreboot]

I think it's the fact that the ship sank so slowly. Titanic had 2 hours and 40 minutes to call for help. Many ships and the radio station at Cape Race knew she was sinking real time and nobody could do anything to help. The Californian was close enough to have been able to save everyone, but their radio was off and the ships officers didn't understand the meaning of the rockets and ignored them. It was so avoidable and yet unavoidable, any number of decisions could have changed what happened and yet everything lined up just so for a terrible disaster.

[@louisedaynes4982]

'opens like a zipper' is one of the best explanations i have heard. Thank you so much for uploading this doc

[@johannagutierrezlixa3508]

There were 20 lifeboats on the Titanic, not 16: 14 "standard" wooden boats, 4 collapsibles and 2 cutters intended to be used as emergency boats. Something to think about: By 1912 maritime regulations, a ship of 10,000 tons or more was required to carry 16 lifeboats, so Titanic actually carried four more lifeboats than was needed under these regulations :/

[@evil1by1]

On top of that the standard was vessels above 10,000 tons was for them to carry 16 or more lifeboats with a total capacity of 9,625 feet which is approx 960 people. Titanic had 20 lifeboats with a capacity of 11,328 feet and 1,178 people. So White Star was being safety conscious it just wasn't enough. It was also complicated by the loss of the RMS Republic which also had insufficient lifeboats but all were saved because the ship stayed afloat long enough for passengers to be ferried to rescue vessels and in that regard Titanic was well engineered to stay afloat and it was just not thought possible that she would sink so fast , so far from aid that the majority would be lost.

[@marieschappacher5419]

And STILL IT WAS NOT ENOUGH! !, NOT BASED ON LENGTH OR TONAGE !! THE BRITISH BOARD OF TRADE SCREWED UP! They knew that. Because AFTER TITANIC THE RULE WAS SIMPLE! ENOUGH LIFE BOATS FOR EVERYONE ABOARD PERIOD!

[@randomhumanoidblob4506]

@Marie Schappacher It's moot anyway. Very few ships go down on a even keel and it's impossible to launch lifeboats on the opposite side to the list. It's actually a testament to how well-built The Olympic class were that lifeboats were put off from both sides. The BoT regs were hopelessly outdated but as modern wrecks have shown its not as simple as a seat for every bum.

[@sophansom6353]

I KNOW!TITANIC NEEDS 60 LIFEBOATS,NOT 20!

[@lagresomadsl]

@@moonlit85 And only 700 went into the lifeboats.

[@whouster]

There's such a hypnotic magnetism about the story of Titanic. An extraordinary piece of human endeavour and achievement, yet nature destroyed it as surely as if she were made from matchsticks. The ultra tranquil water that reflected the stars on a moonless night created the perfect hiding place for that deadly iceberg. Yes, there were human errors such as poor quality rivets, travelling at near full speed despite being warned of ice hazards etc, but the main reason for this disaster was sheer bad luck. Also a tragic example of why humanity should never become conceited or arrogant enough to believe that it will ever conquer nature.

[@diontaedaughtry974]

This documentary had me learning about rivets and iceberg names. And now I'm learning the iceberg was made the same time the titanic was made. Maybe the titanic served as an omen for man to never believe you're too big to fail. Great documentary 👍👍

[@allanpointon3863]

Thanks Paul Thanks Lee, a beautiful film. So, it's so touchingly done. Thanks guys. Learnt alot keep up the excellent work a pleasure to watch.

[@kathyjones3320]

Always breaks my heart when I see the Titanic those poor souls, it must of been absolutely terrifying for them. May they rest in peace.

[@mattwilliam5522]

It was so erotic and breathtaking yet sad. I wonder what that iceberg was made of to crush that ship like that so crazy

[@uhtyp1]

The captain and designer are the only two people who couldve survive the tragedy if they wanted to and could've told the world exactly what happened that dreadful dark morning but they chose to go down with the ship, as if they blame themselves. The project was cursed from the start with 2 sister ships suffering similar faith. The experience had to be frightening for those poeple that passed away, the titanic in my opinion was like Final destination the movie where everything went wrong starting from decision making straight down to technical and geological issues until its final moments.

[@carltoniles251]

No. Bruce Ismay could of and did survive and didnt tell the truth

[@diannebdee]

Contrary to what was mentioned here, Captain Smith did not become ineffectual. Both he and Thomas Andrews were last seen at the bridge wing trying to call boats back to pick up more passengers. According to the book "Titanic: On A Sea of Glass" eyewitness testimony noted both Smith and Andrews at the same position when the water reached that point during the sinking. According to that testimony both men floated off the ship together into the water.

[@scottwarren4998]

There is no one, nor a single thing to blame for the disaster. The wrought-iron-slag-rivets that they had before bulding them into Titanic were a very little bit weaker than steel-rivets. However, the wrought-iron-slag-rivets were punched into titanic in a wrong way, making the slag again a little bit weaker. But you can't blame the one/ones who ordered titanic to be built that way, they didnt know that slag-rivets got weaker by being punched that way. In the laboratory, the wrought-iron-slag-rivets built in a wrong way failed at about 10 000 of pressure. However, even steel-rivets built in a right way, couldn't take 14 000 of pressure in the laboratory.

[@Mr.Plant1994]

it was many people making very simple oversights that all added together to make a tragedy.

[@t.j.minepinesouthwick493]

I have been reading that book

[@adamsapples777]

🎉

[@DE-GEN-ART]

1500 people dead, i would be feeling some type of way if i were him too

[@GetUnwoke]

by far one of the better documentaries I've seen about the Titanic.

[@sketchuphub]

Robert Ballard made it abundantly clear at a talk in Belfast a number of years ago: human error was the main reason why Titanic sank. And that human was the Captain. He ignored countless warnings from both North and South concerning icebergs and continued to speed along IN DARKNESS, right into the path of a huge iceberg. It wasn't Titanic's fault: 'she was alright when she left here'!

[@Sarah0583]

The warnings were not ignored, he even altered the ship’s course to take her farther south because of them. It was standard procedure at the time not to reduce speed in the presence of ice, several captains confirmed this at the inquiry.

[@sketchuphub]

@@Sarah0583 Hey. I’m happy to take Robert Ballard’s advice, thanks.

[@VersusARCH]

Who on Earth put an inceberg there? - Titanic captain Edward J Smith's last words

[@dancingtrout6719]

lol.. right .. he was on a direct collision course with it ... dead ahead

[@pooryorick831]

Such a horrible accident. The water temperature was somewhere in the neighborhood of 28-30° F that night. Most people likely died of hypothermia. Water that cold would suck the life out of a person in just a few minutes. hope no one suffered. I like to think people lost consciousness after a couple minutes in the cold water and only then drowned. Of course I don't know that for sure, but I hope no one suffered for longer than that. RIP.

[@Gonken88]

Lol Fahrenheit 😂. It's so funny most of the world was using Celsius already when Olympic sank but muricans are still using it. Virtually exclusively as well. The hell makes sense about 32 degrees freezing and 212 degrees boiling? 0°C freezing, 100° boiling, 1 kcal to raise the temperature of 1 liter (10dl, 100cl, 1000ml) of water by 1°C.

[@7MatthewJames]

28-30 degrees Fahrenheit is -2 degrees Celsius, they’d have been dead in minutes in water that lethally cold

[@josephayers7395]

​​@@Gonken88'll stick with farenheit. Thanks jackass

[@ragnardanneskjold7406]

America is the greatest country in the history of world. Sorry you were born somewhere else.

[@kathrynleaser5093]

One of the best videos I have watched on the Titanics fateful journey . Thank you this story has haunted me my entire life. God rest those souls that perished in a dreaful terrifing death.

[@JeffreyHatch69]

Running at full speed knowing they were in an ice field was a poor choice in itself

[@scottiebones]

The quality of rivets had nothing to do with the fact she sank, a 50,000 ton ship sliding and pressing against an object that weighs in excess of 10x or even much more is going to buckle steel.... Regardless.

[@scottiebones]

@@nonarKitten the noise/vibration was relative to the area of the ship you were at the time, does not make the damage less destructive. and yet, you're still talking about 50,000 tons, scraping and swaying in to a rock hard object that has a phenomenal amount of mass. Think of the physics here

[@scottiebones]

@@nonarKitten It was estimated the one titanic hit was in excess of 500,000 tons.

[@scottiebones]

@@nonarKitten ...uhm what? Lol... Clearly you don't understand the dynamics of basic physics.. explain this, the Olympic which was near identical to the Titanic, ram raided a U-boat, sank it while sustaining only minimal damage to itself, it your argument is weak steel/rivets, you're dead wrong.

[@scottiebones]

@@nonarKitten wrong. So wrong that I'm laughing

[@randomhumanoidblob4506]

@Renee Cousins I asked a ship's Chief Engineer about this. From the ship's pov, the iceberg would've been akin to running aground - it was an immovable force and Titanic wasn't an unstoppable object. It's counter-intuitive to us - we can't even conceive the size of the ship, let alone the berg. Any sharp escarpment in the berg would have gone through the hull "like a knife through butter." Unless we sail in modern shipping lanes and actually see them, the size of these behemoths is unfathomable. But the biggest bulk carriers are massive beyond compare to us but a complete gnat in the bigger scheme of things. I've seen oil tankers and bulk carriers up close and it's hard to imagine anything bigger. But even today, natural forces swamp them - the Munchen and the Derbyshire are two that come to mind - because we can't really comprehend the scale. Titanic was huge. She was a speck compared to the berg which was a speck in the ocean. And I hope this comes over right because it's unfathomable to me, too but basic physics does come into play. The berg was simply much bigger and incredibly solid.

[@JugSouthgate]

Here's one most people haven't heard of - it's from Walter Lord's "A Night To Remember" book. It doesn't make it into any of the movies I know of. It is well known that the Californian was close by (10 miles), stopped because of the ice. But her only wireless operator went to bed before the sinking and so the distress messages weren't heard and Californian took no action. But according to the above book, one of the Californian's officers would spend time in the wireless shack, learning Morse Code and how to use the wireless receiver. On that fateful night, he stopped by the shack and tried to listen in while the wireless operator slept. The Californian's receiver used a device known as a magnetic detector, which had a clockwork mechanism that had to be wound up periodically for it to work. But the officer forgot to wind it, and so heard nothing. After a few minutes he gave up and went on his way. Had he remembered to wind up the detector, Titanic's distress calls would have been loud and clear, and he most certainly would have understood something was wrong and woken up the wireless operator.

[@captainrex3854]

It is a movie

[@toddkurzbard]

You are right, but it DID appear in one movie, the theatrical version of "A Night To Remember". We see 3rd Officer Charles Groves (who had a keen interest in wireless, and would at times visit Evans in the wireless cabin to learn more) attempt to listen while Evans was sleeping, but he heard nothing; he didn't realize that the CALIFORNIAN's wireless installation had a magnetic detector, which required winding up like a cellphone whose battery is down needs a charge. So he merely thought nothing was going on, and left. He happened to walk in and put on the headphones just at the time the TITANIC was sending her first distress call. Had he known to crank up the magnetic detector, he would have heard the call and alerted Evans. This would have led to a report to Captain Lord that the TITANIC was in distress, with hopefully better results. But it was just another cruel joke played on the TITANIC and those aboard her.

[@kathyborthwick6738]

Well done- finally more answers and of course more questions!

[@dancingtrout6719]

lol

[@michaelh1889]

Great post... This is an outstanding perspective...😮

[@lukewarmwater5320]

Wow! After a century in the public eye, endless investigative reporting on the incident and countless movies and documentaries for decade after decade, I finally found the definitive explanation! Groundbreaking research from one of today's greatest minds...

[@stephendacey8761]

In 100 years people will be talking about the sinking of the Costa Concordia in 2012.

[@calzman]

Holy crap its just like one thing after another. Almost like it was meant to be. The flow of ice was different, changing course 20 mins later, no binoculars, hard to starboard instead of port or even dead on, the delay of finishing the ship by a month, it just goes on and on. Changing even one thing might have saved the ship. Insane how many things came together to cause the accident.

[@cantfindmykeys]

Just like plane crashes. It's always a series of events that lead to tragedy. If just one of those things wasn't lined up with the others, the accident would most likely have been avoided.

[@timothyreed8417]

No real proof course turn was late. Binoculars were never assigned to the lookouts. Most Captains believed naked eye was best.. Hard a starboard was correct call ( turn to port)…

[@wolf310ii]

The Titanic turned to port, rudder hard starbord was the command to turn to port at that time

[@abcde_fz]

I've heard a couple times how the sea was dead flat calm. I must admit, I'm not much of a seagoing kind of guy, but I think I would like to be in the middle of the ocean in a dead flat calm on a clear moonless night. That's got to be about as close as you can get to being alive back in the day before electric light pollution of the night skies. I'm sure it would be a surreal experience...

[@Roscoe.P.Coldchain]

Yes abit like been on death row? I think it would have been very Real rather than surreal experience

[@user-nw5tm9kh9w]

Женщины и дети садятся первыми !

[@jasone6435]

The Darkest Dark Ever!!

[@nobshistoryengineering4421]

If you live in the country you can still quite easily avoid the light pollution that exists now.

[@abcde_fz]

@@nobshistoryengineering4421 I'm somewhat lucky in that although I live in the southern heart of the DC-to-Boston metroplex, I don't have to go TOO far to get away from it. But it's still at least 35 miles to the northwest before that annoying orange glow from Baltimore and DC finally fades to nothing. At least it's confined to just a very pale haze rising a couple of degrees above the horizon when you're only 20 miles out, so the vast majority of the sky must be pretty darn good based on what your experience is saying, which means I no longer have to worry that I NEED to be out in the middle of the trackless ocean for truly good viewing. :-)

[@MrJeep75]

She was built with the best of their abilities of the time

[@MrJeep75]

@Miss Manawaka thanks spell check police, I don't care

[@MrJeep75]

@@nonarKitten are you a engineer

[@MrJeep75]

@@nonarKitten the titanic had a double bottom, it wouldn't of matter in the sinking anyway

[@Brock_Landers]

@@nonarKitten Not that I'm trying to defend anyone's side here because you're both right, but Titanic had a double bottom, not a double hull (like you mentioned). A double hull extends up the sides of the ship to the waterline whereas a double bottom is just two layers of the bottom shell as Titanic was almost flat on the bottom for stability. If you watch the documentary where James Cameron explores the wreck and the debris field, you'll notice where they found a large section of the double bottom that broke apart when the ship split in two and it is literally two layers of steel plates separated by a honeycomb type of steel bracing. Britannic suffered a mine strike and she sank as quickly as she did due to the nurses leaving the portholes open, but also because the hull was jarred so badly by the explosion that some of the watertight doors couldn't be closed because they were jammed in their frames. Basically, I'm agreeing with both of you, and Titanic (just as with Britannic) was a combination of human error, negligence, and poor engineering and forethought.

[@oswaldcobblepot502]

@Broken_to_Beautiful Doesn't even matter. Most of the passengers passed up their chance to get on one when they had the opportunity. They chose to stay on board their sinking unsinkable ship and panic ensued once it was too late.

[@BULL.173]

Sank so quickly? The Titanic lived for over 2 1/2 hours with catastrophic damage to multiple compartments BELOW the waterline. A lesser made vessel would have probably turtled and been at the bottom in half that time. The Titanic was about as well built as any ship could have been at the time.

[@scottiebones]

It only lasted as long asit did because the engineers and Stoker's were pumping water out of her boiler rooms, it would have went down sooner without their brave actions.

[@darkcadence938]

@@scottiebones yea but the damage was Catastrophic and impossible to contain that crazy amount of water..

[@scottiebones]

I should also add, the electrician's who worked to the very end to keep power supply for the passengers and the pumps. Very courageous men.

[@BULL.173]

@@scottiebones Very courageous indeed. They were making their last stand and they knew it too.

[@lkslokinhow]

Yep, it is a lot of time. Britannic was almost equal to the titanic (actually even more modern and secure) and sunk in 1 hour. The Lusitania was not that smaller and sunk in just 20 minutes!

[@brianjones3540]

A comment on the number of lifeboats. At that time in 1912, nearly all the large ships that sank before Titanic spent hours afloat after the incident that eventually sank them. The lifeboats were not meant to hold all passengers but only to shuttle the passengers from the stricken ship to another rescue vessel. It was assumed the damaged ship would stay afloat until other ships came into range. Thus, the number of seats on the lifeboats only had to meet an acceptable limit. Because of the damage Titanic sustained, this metric was, tragically, far from adequate. As for the sub-standard rivets, these weren't meant to keep the ship together at the strike-point, obviously, but meant to keep the hull intact from the pressure of water against the hull and the flexing of the hull at extreme angles (extreme being just a few degrees from normal, actually), which would occur when the ship is listing or is down by the bow. Thus, the lower-quality rivets would snap, the hull plates would buckle, and more water enter the hull, and defeat the watertight compartments. The quality of the steel used in the hull also has a bearing: it was not very strong. With the below-freezing cold of sea-water (28 degrees F), the hull was actually brittle, and when the stresses of being bow-down were placed on the hull, it began to break apart on the surface.

[@charlestidwell5361]

Great analysis 👍

[@kevinbuja4373]

That is the best, concise analysis I’ve heard or read. Thank you.

[@tessaducek5601]

I agree with the other two comments. 👌👍

[@timothyreed8417]

The steel was considered “battleship” quality by the people who built her…the same formula for steel was used in the Olympic…

[@maxs.3238]

@@timothyreed8417 I don't know where this myth is coming from... Harland and Wolff was one of the best shipbuilders in the world at the time, they had a reputation to lose but yeah sure they would use substandard material for what would be considered their prestige project of the decade😑 Also... 50.000 ton ship hits huge honking iceberg at almost full steam... "oh it must've been the rivets that were faulty", no. Just no. The rivets could've been made from the strongest material known to man, an impact like that will rip them apart anyway

[@richarddavenport31]

IF THE RADIO WASN'T REPAIRED JUST BEFORE THE SINKING, EVERYONE WOULD HAVE DIED. ITS AMAZING ANYONE SURVIVED, REALLY!!!!

[@daphneduryea9136]

Actually, the German ship, MV Wilhelm Gustloff was the worst maritime loss. 9,400 people died. Torpedoed and sunk on January 30, 1945 by Soviet submarine S-13 in the Baltic Sea.

[@1993digifan]

I think they meant to say the Titanic is the greatest maritime loss during peace time (or at the very least in an area that wasn't in the middle of a war), people often forget to add that detail when talking about the scale of the tragedy. Probably to make it more tragic.

[@erika_itsumi5141]

you've left the fact that ship was carrying Nazi's fleeing the collapsing Third Reich in Germany, in order to avoid imprisonment, and or Execution's for the Atrocities they Committed during the war. tell the whole truth, that wasn't just a Hospital ship full of wounded.

[@daphneduryea9136]

@@erika_itsumi5141 I meant the highest number of people lost in the sinking of a ship.

[@ottoblond666]

@@erika_itsumi5141 With a tunnel vision, a superficial way of thinking and a preconceived opinion, you get through life well, can't you?

[@DestroyTheTyrants]

Another good reason to nuke Russia

[@charlesbritten4220]

If the Titanic was 'doomed from the start', how come her sister ship Olympic managed 25 years at sea without major incident? Utter tosh.

[@evil1by1]

Olympic had several incidents

[@charlesbritten4220]

@@evil1by1 none of that magnitude

[@charlesbritten4220]

@@nonarKitten the double hull wasn't a useful addition because the watertight compartments did not extend into it, raising the risk of flooding along one side, leading to a ship capsizing. More theoretically useful was the raising of the watertight compartment door provision to the higher decks. However, in the case of the Britannic it's sinking was hastened by the fact the doors could not be closed, as the impact of the sea mine explosion caused the wire carrying the electrical signal to snap. It capsized in under an hour.

[@charlesbritten4220]

@@nonarKitten all the watertight doors on the Britannic failed, because the broken cable meant the signal to close wouldn't transmit to any of them. Open portholes did accelerate the sinking, but the ship had to be sinking to start with for the water level to get up to them.

[@Cheekyconnermonkey]

hope you realize that the boats were switched as i reckon that the Olympic is down there instead of the titanic....

[@christopherdelgaudio9484]

What a terrible fate those people and that ship met what a night mare!

[@falcon664]

The Olympic class ships were designed to take an impact from the side. At most, the bow of another ship would breach two compartments, (Olympic and Hawke), but not a breach across 4 or more compartments.

[@brandonb1681]

The binoculars incident just blows my mind.

[@dancingtrout6719]

they should have gotten a mechanic to open the locker .. or get an AXE.. There were the worlds richest men on board ,, they should impress them without hitting an ice berg ... wtf

[@RobCLynch]

There were 20 lifeboats in total (including 4 collapsible types) and they barely got them all away. Even if they'd had the original 48 boats, I doubt they could have ever got them loaded and launched in time.

[@vernonmatthews181]

Well said, it would have been impossible to adequately manage 48 lifeboats in 2 hours with up to 70 passengers in each, with or without a drill, given they the passengers were civilians 😢

[@automechs360]

It would have been impossible even if well trained to get off more lifeboats than the crew of Titanic did. They did a test of similar conditions using similar equipment and a well trained crew. Those were manual davits, not even electric davits could have helped.

[@RobCLynch]

I did wonder if there was any scope to have removed doors from hinges and use them as floating devices. Could makeshift rafts have been made?

[@automechs360]

@@RobCLynch so the thing would be that the people would need time to do that. They had done some from the debris but it wouldn't have kept the person or people out of the water enough to save them. The water was just at or slightly above freezing and even a big piece of debris wouldn't stay out of the water enough, even with still water like on the night of the wreck.

[@RobCLynch]

@@automechs360 Yes I agree. But it makes you wonder if this could have been thought about...though it was never deemed possible that Titanic would sink. I have ferries close to where I live and of those vessels, they all have seating that is designed to float off the deck...like a big raft. No doubt White Star would have deemed such rafts as not aesthetically appealing.

[@jaycgeo]

It's been years since this documentary. Now, it's discover that Smith was last seen with Andrew by the port bridge wing as they jumped from Titanic. This was after he declared it's every men for himself, relieving his men from their post, that they did their duty in launching all the boats. The bridge was nearly flooded by that time and he stayed on board until there was no more to do.

[@tanesha8942]

Only one source says this but it is taken as gospel

[@wahsdarb1013]

​@tanesha8942 I just watched a shorter documentary (forget the name, but its the one they made for the 100th anniversary of her sinking) where it said multiple witnesses testify they saw him do this, but only one account testifies that they saw him go into the wheelhouse, presumably knowing he would soon go down with his ship (which is the account Cameron went with for the movie) There are also accounts testifying that he swam to and handed a child to one of the lifeboats. He was told that if he got in, he would sink it, so he sad "good luck lads" or something like it, and then dissappear into the night and drowned. I believe they said this was the least likely, since no lifeboat ever remembers anyone handing off a child from the water.

[@aj6954]

No-one would remember Capt Smith himself being hauled out of the water, but obviously you wouldn`t expect them to. However if you have read the accounts of Smith turning up in Baltimore 3 months after the sinking, you would conclude that person or persons assisted him. Do the research and it looks pretty certain, but a lot of people are so precious over Titanic generally that they don`t want to believe it.

This documentary was absolutely incredible. Thank you for breaking down such an incredibly complex event that we must all remember.

[@ryanhelton1865]

The majority of the facts are incorrect

[@861622259]

One of the worst..................................

😳

[@861622259]

@ stick to the inquiries..... Most of the producers of these so called documentaries know most viewers haven't read them... And that's why they get away with so much sensationalism.... Both inquires are available online.... Check... Double check and then check again..... Its your study... Make it yours... Your not the one selling it.... Its just for you....

[@philsurtees]

@@861622259 Ah ... here's the self-appointed expert again - a person who doesn't even know what a documentary is - making generalised statements and useless suggestions. Does it ever cross your feeble little mind - even when you have the evidence punching you in the face like this - that reading enquiries isn't for everyone, and that some harmless sensationalism isn't a bad thing if it gets people to keep watching? I mean ... not only do you not understand what a documentary is, but you don't understand what this documentary is trying to say, and yet you're trying to convince someone who enjoyed it - and learnt something from it - that they should discount what they watched? SHAME. ON. YOU. There's absolutely nothing wrong with this documentary. It's not for everyone, that's true, but it WAS useful to ​ @Ever García, and there's nothing wrong with that, especially given that - as pointed out elsewhere - Paul Louden-Brown is an expert on this topic, unlike you, who has written several books, was Vice President of the Titanic Historical Society, and has contributed on the topic to the BBC. Unlike you. So ... maybe mind your own business, go get someone to explain to you what a documentary is, and consider the fact that there has actually been some more research done since the enquiries that happened after the sinking; they've actually located the wreck and have been down there with cameras, meaning they know more now than the enquiries did, and that's why the reading the enquiries is actually a pretty stupid suggestion, given how much we've learnt since then, not only about the Titanic, but about how to present information in a way that is interesting and useful to people.

[@zaxs166]

When the guy in the crows nest said iceberg right ahead he sounded like the calmest person on earth, lol

[@stevekonbass]

This documentary was done really well. One of the better ones I've seen.

[@SQUAREHEADSAM1912]

No it wasn’t! It’s filled with all sorts of misinformation and myths.

[@nobshistoryengineering4421]

Hi Steve nice to see you here :D

[@Osarah96]

I fully and entirely encourage you to watch Historic Travels. The way Sam talks about the history of the White Star line and Titanic primarily is absolutely fascinating. You can see the passion and love he has for the history and the effort he takes into it. He is extremely thorough, really involved with his fans. And the information is insane!! Easily one of my favorite Titanic information sources 😁

[@douglasskaalrud6865]

I study the Edmund Fitzgerald history and one of the things they didn’t do when they built her hull is, unlike Titanic, they didn’t stagger her plates. In the name of efficiency her hull was fabricated in sections off the keel, then joined up on the keel and welded. I think there were eight modular sections like this corresponding to her ballast tanks. The bow and stern were constructed in the normal fashion on the ways. Titanic’s hull must have been immensely strong vertically with those staggered plates but maybe less so horizontally as they were in rows. If Fitzgerald had been riveted with staggered plates like Titanic instead of welded plates she probably would not have sunk.

[@timothyreed8417]

Olympic built the same way. She lasted for a very long time.

[@aislingmairead4939]

@@timothyreed8417 ..and Britannic is still holding up relatively well, too, the last I knew.

[@user-nw5tm9kh9w]

Титаник в 23 часа 40 минут 14 апреля 1912 года.

[@smitajky]

One thing that was overlooked here is 16 lifeboats * 70 people =1120 persons. Yet this is not the number saved. The 400 difference can be blamed on inadequate training. Inadequate orders. Inadequate supervision and inadequate planning to get people TO the lifeboats. There is plenty of blame to go to plenty of quarters. So many people contributed to the scale of the loss. But many of those were still in positions of authority a few years later when the battle of the Somme was in force. And we all know that this was a far greater loss of life that could also be attributed to many of the same causes.

[@user-nw5tm9kh9w]

Титаник едва избегает столкновения с американским судном Нью Йорк . Буксир пытается оттащить корму нью- Йорк от борта Титаник.

[@elguaguero23]

Just like an airliner disaster there’s always a change of events that lead to a disastrous accident with great loss of life , like an airline captain forgetting to set flaps for take off

[@susiesweet8003]

It always takes a tragic incident to change things to the way they should have been all along. 😪

[@manticore4952]

Lessons are learned in blood.

[@jasonhowell9723]

@@manticore4952agreed..unfortunately but lesson was learned..now every ship has to lifeboats for all passengers and no ship has ever since been sunk by iceberg in the Atlantic Ocean.

[@nobshistoryengineering4421]

This is well said and very true.

[@cantfindmykeys]

It's known as "tombstone engineering", often referred to in aviation following a plane crash. Ok, now it's fixed! Sorry y'all had to die but we worked it out.

[@dancingtrout6719]

man pushing the envelope on progress always involves Death:::

[@derekstocker6661]

Assuming that the "water tight" bulkheads did not actually reach from floor to ceiling, was this not the main cause of the disaster. As far as I understand it the bulkheads were constructed almost like compartments but the walls of the compartments did not go all the way up, surely defeating the whole object of the idea and not actually being water tight at all, and the water just flowed over the top of each bulkhead into the next. Very well done documentary, thank you for this. RIP to all those who lost their lives, I am sure this tragedy will never be forgotten.

[@861622259]

Terrible documentary

[@fearlessfosdick160]

Look, those compartments weren't supposed to be water tight in the way you are meaning it. The compartments were simply designed to contain flooding in the event of localized breaches of the hull, such as a collision with another ship. What happened to Titanic was quite extreme, and no large ship of the day would have been likely to have survived it. The fact that she was designed to remain afloat with the first four compartments flooded is a testament to just how well designed she was.

[@scottwarren4998]

There is no one, nor a single thing to blame for the disaster. The rivets they had before bulding them into Titanic were a very little bit weaker than iron-rivets. However, the slag-rivets was punched into titanic in a wrong way, making the slag again a little bit weaker. But you can't blame the one/ones who ordered titanic to be built that way, they didnt know that slag-rivets got weaker by being punched that way. In the laboratory, the slag-rivets built in a wrong way failed at about 10 000 of pressure. However, even iron-rivets built in a right way, couldn't take 14 000 of pressure in the laboratory.

[@juanmelendezrivera6085]

Great documentary that revealed negligence of top executives of the White Star Line by passing basic safety for the Titanic, a huge luxury passenger ship. Only 16 lifesaving boats were installed on a ship designed to have 48 boats plus lack of emergency training of the crew and many other factors contributed to the horrible tragedy. The iceberg was a real destroyer for any ship of any size. Today's larger and modern ships could not survive any collision with that monster iceberg. This tragedy was a lesson learned in history. Our commitment is to emphasize on safety to localize icebergs and other nature hazards (storms, hurricanes, tsunamis, etc.) , avoid those hazards and act quickly in case of accidents to save lives. Sorrow and respect to the victims and let the name Titanic rest in peace.

[@Sarah0583]

The only negligence was in the regulations. Titanic carried more lifeboats than required by the law. Other liners, like Cunard’s Lusitania and Mauretania, carried even less than she did before she sank.

[@unitedwestand5100]

@40:00, that woman must have heard a different testimony from the boilerman than is given in this video LOL

[@johnfranklin5277]

I don't believe the quality of the ships materials had anything to do with the disaster. The Olympic, the 1st ship built had a successful career until retirement in 1935. In fact her nickname was, Old Reliable.

[@bonheura]

I would love an animation that shows what would have happened if the ship had hit the iceberg up front. I've read here and there that she would have stayed afloat, but there still would have been a high number of human fatalities.

[@darkshark6231]

A head on crash at 26 mph. Doesn't sound like much, but I've seen cars get hit at slower speeds and still get totaled. Had the Titanic hit the iceberg dead on, everyone would've been thrown towards the bow of the ship upon impact, which would cause a lot of fatalities. Then the ship has to absorb the force of impact (remember, Newton's 3rd law), a lot of that force would've been absorbed by the rivets, and would more than likely cause a lot to break open and allow water to flow in. The metal plates that made up the hull would also crumple up like a soda can from impact forces along the ship. It's highly unlikely that Titanic would survive long after this, and the radio operators wouldn't have had enough time to send the SOS/CQD messages to get other ship's attention. So even if she kept afloat, she couldn't call for help that effectively, in fact, the only way she would've kept afloat is if the iceberg wasn't that dense of a berg, which you can't tell without actually going up to it and looking at it. TL;DR: if Titanic hit on, there's good reason to believe she would've went down faster, and almost no one would survive the disaster, and what they did do was the best case scenario.

[@bonheura]

@@darkshark6231 Really? That ship was doomed then. Thank you for your enlightenment.

[@RandomChangeling]

Oceanliner Designs, did a video on that version of events.

[@MonasteryOfSilence]

@@darkshark6231 This is incorrect. A head on collision indeed would have killed many but wouldnt have been absorved by the rivers, the ship would have been saved along with the majority of the passengers.

[@electrickrain]

@@MonasteryOfSilence you think it would've. But you DON'T really know. Duhhhh

[@threegreencharms]

@ 47:00 "I don't understand, she's supposed to stay afloat even with 4 compartments flooding." "We're flooding in 5 compartments, Mr. Ismay." *looks as if this is the first time any such thought had ever crossed his mind* 😳🤣

[@stawmy]

Interesting theory on the rivets because generally, wrought iron has a high tensile strength while being still somewhat malleable, and it doesent generally corrode as fast as regular steel, a thin oxide layer actually prevents further corrosion. Except for when it is cold, at -15 degrees it becomes brittle like glass. Fact; we have lost the secret of Victorian iron, it simply does not corrode, unlike our modern GG8 stuff. This has puzzled all the metallurgists, but i still say it is because Victorian iron contains the blood of the young boys who died making it.

[@thebonesaw..4634]

Titanic literally had more lifeboats than required by law. Back then, it went by the size of the boat, NOT the number of passengers (a dumb rule perhaps, but they'd had no cause to change it till Titanic, which changed everything). At the time, Titanic was required to have 16 lifeboats. In reality, she had 20 (enough for only 52% of the passengers - this documentary ignored the fact that there were four extra "collapsible" lifeboats, brining the total number to 20 lifeboats). Ironically, Titanic ended up killing even more people because of the changes to the number of required lifeboats. Approximately one year later, the SS Eastland caught fire and sank while still tied up to her pier in Chicago. Because of the new law stipulating that ships had to carry enough lifeboats for every passenger, the boat was overloaded with them. As the firefighters tackled the blaze, they inadvertently filled every lifeboat with water on the port side of the vessel. This made the boat unstable and she capsized while still tied up to her berth. 844 passengers and crew were killed.

[@nunyabizzness5477]

The Eastland didn't catch on fire, or capsize due to water filled lifeboats. It capsized July 24, 1915, due to changes to it's design that made it too top heavy.

[@billhoskoformayorofsaintpa1295]

@Summer Bk Thanks for the info, then...

[@IrishTechnicalThinker]

Why are they selecting phrases like, answering questions why she sank so quickly. 🤔 She survived over two hours after catastrophic damage.

[@kidmack3556]

20:03 There's the characterization of Joseph Laroche and his wife. Bravo!! to the producers of this documentary

[@karenflanagan1961]

OMG 😲 now I've never heard that detail before that's critical 😳 Wow.

[@justinlynch3]

If you look it up there is a interesting video comparing what the lookout would of seen the night Titanic sunk and they compared multiple different views with binoculars VS bare eyesight having a spotlight, etc. With the rare conditions that night, there is actually a case to be made binoculars would not of helped at all, and may of even made things worse by giving the lookouts tunnel vision. Just looking with their bare eyes, given it was a calm sea, no waves breaking against the ice, a false arrizon, etc. Looking with just natural eyesight could of very well been the best thing the lookouts could of done.

[@billhoskoformayorofsaintpa1295]

GOOD analysis. Excellent actually.

[@fearlessfosdick160]

I never thought that binoculars would have made a difference either.

[@theshapeexists]

Crazy to think the rivets that supposedly easily popped off during the collusion held the ship together as it slammed into earth at 35 miles an hour miles below the ocean. Also crazy to think those same rivets held as the plates themselves sheered in half from the ship ripping itself in half. Those same rivets are holding the ship together 110 years later under salt water and erosion from the ocean and its life forms at a microscopic level.

[@craigmager5360]

Define 'slammed into the 'earth' please? Considering it was an iceberg (which is WATER)..

[@nonelost1]

@@craigmager5360 "slammed into earth at 35 miles an hour miles below the ocean"...I believe "theshapeexists" was referring to the ocean floor, not the iceberg.

[@theshapeexists]

@@craigmager5360 uhhh, do you know what is at the bottom of the ocean? Its not marshmallows and rainbows

[@HufflepuffDaddy]

Crazy to think they used cheap rivets with impurities in the bow section that hit the bloody iceberg. Crazy to think you rave about the stronger rivets used elsewhere on the ship that made it to the bottom of the ocean.

[@theshapeexists]

@@HufflepuffDaddy oh look, another "expert".

[@johnsmith-rs2vk]

A catastrophic chain of events led to this disaster . They must all be looked at .

[@randomgameplays9544]

Thank you for this interesting video

[@lukycharms9970]

If I see one mention of the coal fire on the starboard side before it left the dock or any mention that it actually wasn’t the titanic that sank I’m turning this off immediately lol

[@brianneale2006]

My Mothers grand father was a sailor on board the Olympic the sister ship the Titanic.

[@alejandrorestrepo591]

I’m obsessed with all documentaries on Titanic 😅

[@j.w.2271]

it's a story that can inspire anyone to fight ignorance and careless disregard

[@stevenklinkhamer9069]

A hard historic lesson on the inherent "danger" of being overconfident in human endeavor/technology if there ever was one. There simply is no substitute for exercising prudent caution when facing a "clear and present" danger to your safety. Failure to do so can lead to exceeding tragic events as those that occurred on April 14-15 1912 on board the Titanic.

[@mhdgs9944]

From the sinking of the Titanic to the chernobyl disaster to modern day, no one takes the responsibility, it's always cost cutting and human error, we clearly do not learn from our mistakes do we

[@mattwilliam5522]

I just thought titanic was just a movie yo this makes it seem real that is crazy

[@MiniLemmy]

It’s actually quite amazing how many things in sequence had to go wrong for this disaster to happen! It was the perfect clusterf**k! Another thing not mentioned in this vid was the actual reason for Titanic’s suicidal speed through iceberg waters - a smouldering fire in one of the coal bunkers meant that the boiler room workers had to use the coal as quickly as they could so that they could empty the bunker ASAP, hence the continued speed despite warnings

[@dovetonsturdee7033]

The fire had been dealt with at least 24 hours before the collision. Titanic had 13 bunkers, and burned up to 850 tons of coal per day, which meant that there was no need for excessive speed. Moreover, five of her boilers were never even connected. The claim of excessive speed is a false one.

[@protoborg]

One thing they missed was the fact that an hour before it hit the big one, Titanic actually hit a "growler". The growler didn't do noticeable damage. They inspected the impact site and determined that it was not in need of repair. They continued on their way. So when the ship collided with the big berg, it had already been weakened and stood no chance of actually surviving. Also, at the bottom of the ship (in the boiler room), the water pressure is roughly 30 pounds per square inch. 116 pennies is 100 mbar. 30 psi is 2068 mbar. In other words, 30 psi to the face is like dropping a bag filled with 2,399 pennies on someone's face.

[@RobbyHouseIV]

Interesting...I've never heard of this event occurring and I consider myself very well read on the subject of RMS Titanic.

[@nstl440]

0:40 no the Wilhelm Gustloff is the greatest maritime loss.

[@dancingtrout6719]

read up on the Donia~ Paz 4,200 Pperished .. around 1987

[@user-my3hb3uf7d]

3:47 "Why it sink so quickly" It could be a lot worse. 2hr and 40 minutes was God Blessing.

[@thewillemdafoelover907]

I think there were two options to go with Titanic once the iceberg was detected. The first option would've been to reverse the engine to astern just as they did and hit the iceberg head on, that way the watertight door #1 would've kept water from flodding into the other compartmets rather than the side of the ship gashing, which let water into multiple compartments. The second option would've been to put the liner at full power ahead and turned, that way the hydrodynamic forces at the rudder would kick in. The faster the ship would've gone into the iceberg, the faster it would've steered away from it and it would've avoided the ice from shearing the edge of the hull. It was already that close.

[@lozzylols]

Just doing some sums, they say approx 40,000 icebergs break off each year, and only 1-4% make it to the shipping lanes...... I know the shipping lanes and the Atlantic are a big area, but 1% is 400 icebergs..... Still seems a lot to me! Well enough to be very cautious! Also haven't they brought up rivets from the Titanic more recently and tested them? I think they found them to be a good metal, and partly broke this myth of shoddy materials....

[@davidknight2104]

You are right even the best rivets would have buckled under that amount of extreme pressure, only a much thicker Hull would have stopped that

[@ministryofanti-feminism1493]

That's correct.

[@viscountwesley1]

@@ministryofanti-feminism1493 Re your observation. I believe the point that was being made was that "Best No.3" contained far more slag than did the 'standard' iron rivets being employed at the time of Titanic's construction (which was "Fine No.4). The subsequent tests were made to test not the theory of the weakness of No. 3 rivets, but rather whether the No.3 rivets were more brittle due to the water temperature of around 29 degrees F. ( -1 degree C). The tests essentially demonstrated that the No.3 rivets were not significantly more brittle at the lower temperature of the water. Also the metallurgist simply states that had Fine No.4 rivets been employed instead of the No. 4 quality, the damage to TITANIC would have possibly been smaller, and thereby permit the ship to remain afloat longer. One of the huge mistakes made during the sinking of Titanic was the opening of the gangway first class doors on D deck on the Port Side of the ship. When the water reached this very large opening in the hull, it in essence doubled the speed of the sinking. The opening space of these doors (ordered by Lightoller) was actually larger than the total number of square feet opened up by the actual collision. The ship theoretically may have remained afloat longer had these gangway doors remained closed. This also explains why the considerable list to Port continued to increase until near the end, when Titanic stabilized before its death plunge. Another 'fatal' mistake made by Lightoller was that he believed that the lifeboat capacity for the main wooden lifeboats of 60-65 persons was only possible once the lifeboat was fully in the water. He believed the lifeboats would either break in two or capsize while being lowered from the ship's deck, fully loaded. He was wrong. The Welland Davits and lifeboats of Titanic were designed to bear the weight of a full 100% occupancy from the boat deck. Compounding this error by Lightoller was his misinterpretation of Captain Smith's albeit vague orders concerning the evacuation of the ship. Smith commanded that "women and children were to be loaded into the life boats "first' not only. The survival rate on the Starboard side of Titanic was greater than that of the lifeboats on the Port side (under the command of Lightoller). Murdock (in command of the Starboard side lifeboats) allowed men to enter the lifeboats if no women remained around the lifeboat or within calling distance. Murdock understood that Smith's order meant "women and children first, then any unfilled spaces were to be filled with men. People often fail to realize how enormous this vessel was. Women could and were in areas of the ship far beyond hearing Murdock's call for "Anymore women?" Thus, rather than waste human life he permitted men to enter when no more women were in the vicinity. Try to image a building in a city that was four city blocks long and was eight floors in height. Do you think you could have heard or seen every woman if standing at one end of the building and calling for every woman, that your call would be heard on the opposite side of that building, by a woman standing in a lobby inside? Murdock realized Titanic was going quickly, and had no time to go wandering about this massive ship trying to find any woman to fill his lifeboat. He did what was practical. With no woman in sight, or inside (to avoid the extreme cold of that night) he loaded any remaining spaces with men, then quickly moved to the next boat. In 1912, most women depended upon their husbands to provide an income for a home and family. Lightoller condemned many a woman and child that night by absolutely refusing to allow any man (other than an assigned seaman) to enter a lifeboat; creating far more penniless widows than was necessary. He only permitted Canadian, Arthur Peuchen into a lifeboat because he was a yachtsman (he was a former "commodore " of Toronto City's elite Royal Canadian Yacht Club) to enter an unmanned lifeboat...and only if he was man enough to jump and cling onto the lifeboat ropes, some 50 feet above the ocean, and shimmy down the rope to the lifeboat to provide command. Even then (and with a note signed by Lightoller (which Peuchen made Lightoller sign while on board the Carpathia) stating he was commanded into the boat, Peuchen was ostracized by many 'society people' in Toronto for the cowardly act of saving himself. Ironically, while Peuchen was climbing down the rope, his wallet fell out of his pocket and dropped into the ocean. In a salvage mission, 90 years later, Puechen's wallet was found and is now in the Official Titanic Exhibition. Puechen is buried in Toronto's Mount Pleasant Cemetery. It was noted at the British Board of Trade Enquiry in May 1912, that Lightoller was an 'uncooperative' witness". It was surmised Lightoller was trying to impress the White Star lawyers with his "company loyalty". He made many statements in that Enquiry that if not out-and-out fabrications, were lies of omission. However, it did not pay off for Lightoller in the end. He was eventually obliged to leave White Star in order to become a Captain on another, far less impressive shipping line. In my respectful opinion, Lightoller made a grievous error by judging ordinary passengers to their deaths, based upon the unwritten law of a mercantile seaman. These men were ordinary citizens who had paid White Star to carry them safely to New York. With no women in sight or calling distance, his hard-nosed 'sailor's law, unnecessarily condemned civilian men (with families to support) to a completely unnecessary death. What did he achieve by this, but unnecessary death and jeopardized many a family to potential poverty and lasting grief? Murdock, often accused of having committing suicide on board Titanic (with not a thread of evidence to sustain this charge), is often seen as 'the coward'. Murdock used his head and practical reasoning in an impossible situation where he knew hundreds upon hundreds would die that night. He therefore attempted to save human life whenever possible through the sensible act of filling empty spaces with male passengers. Lightoller permitted boats to go off in many cases with less than half their capacity. What ultimate purpose did this serve?

[@paulhoffman778]

I was STUNNED of the bulkheads not being all the same height I mean I never knew the front extended all the way up and the rest didn't.

[@charlestidwell5361]

I was 11 years old when Titanic went down and I still remember it like it was yesterday.

[@Getstr8cash]

No you weren’t you weren’t even born when titanic sank

[@michaelmooney7341]

How young are you?

[@darkshark6231]

so that means you were born in 1901, and it is currently 2022, which means you are...121 years old. The oldest person alive today is 2 years your junior. What do people get from lying on the internet?

[@charlestidwell5361]

@@darkshark6231 just having a little fun with a joke

[@allenbass6169]

I don't think Bob Segar was in the Titanic.

[@morelions4014]

I wonder how accurate it is of actually how it sunk. With the keel part slowly rising into the air. As in the typical image of it sinking. The most distressing image to anyone.

[@grimreaperalphax1247]

This documentary is interesting but some facts are inaccurate,Titanic was not doomed from the start or build with faulty materials. It's already been stated and researched that he was a very well build ship for that period of time,and iron rivets use was wide spread and normal,this is not the reason for the sinking. Force of the collision and speed are main factors in this disaster,there was no ship capable to withstand all this in 1900s. And after the collision series of unfortunate events are unfolded,low number of lifeboats,panic and bad organisation,all that lead to massive loss of lives,period.

[@wenthulk8439]

Indeed. The main issues with her design were the height of her bulkheads.

[@mintbrisk5961]

It kinda was doomed, no preparations were made in case of any emergency, no training or handling of passengers. And ignored all warnings.

[@wenthulk8439]

@@mintbrisk5961 You should do a bit more research.

[@177SCmaro]

No ocean liner would likely survive what happened to Titanic at the time. It has been argued, successfully I think, that something like a battleship of the time would have survived due to the armored hull and the vastly more compartmentalization found in warships i.e. most warships had hundreds of watertight compartments compared to Titanic's 16 that didn't run all the way to the main deck.

[@wenthulk8439]

@@177SCmaro Indeed.

[@ron2823]

At 15:57, all four smokestacks are shown emitting smoke. Everyone knows only 3 were operational, one was for decoration or as an air intake.

[@Dizzy19.]

The 4th funnel vented the galley and the smoking room fire place.

[@johnsmith-rs2vk]

Great stuff .

[@andreasfernandez1548]

What a nice modelkit of Titanic

[@terisamanraotaku8399]

I was fascinated by the subject of the Titanic and every year always comes to mind every birthday. Basically because of the coincidence of days. My birthday is April 14, so it gives me a lot to think about. I mean, I was born the same day as when everything started but 79 years later.

[@t.j.minepinesouthwick493]

It was not a gentle hit. Officers said they felt the vibrations on the bridge and Captain Smith was immediately on the bridge after the impact.

[@cybercheese3]

People slept through it AFAIK

[@stewheart]

amazing documentary

[@commodorecave5581]

Very interesting and well done doco, very nearly ruined by the incessant youtube ads. I realise they pay the wages, but one every 3 or 4 minutes is ridiculous. (I started timing them)

[@the_rover1]

0:31 "the day she was designed she was doomed" meanwhile, her sistership "olympic" made somewhat 30 years in actual service, but didn't happen to hit an immovable object or get torpedoed at an instance (britannic). yes big boy, I don't buy that.

[@dovetonsturdee7033]

Britannic was mined, in point of fact.

[@exoressdelivers70]

But the sister ship Olympic ran for 20 years with distinction built with the same materials and using the same methods. So it wasn't a design flaw. It wasn't materials. It was the people who ran it.

[@mpol701]

But what rivet quality level, titanic they said level 3,Olympics may of been 4 that needs looking into, also I imagine differant way a ship might be hit will change how those rivets withstand a hit