THE UNTOLD TRUTH ABOUT THE SDA CHURCH | PART ONE

THE UNTOLD TRUTH ABOUT THE SDA CHURCH | PART ONE
In this video learn the history on what the early Seventh Day Adventist church believed. There has been a dramatic change within this church beliefs, and this has had a direct impact on every Seventh Day Adventist in the World! EVERY SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST OWES IT TO THEMSELVES TO KNOW THIS HISTORICAL TRUTH FOR THEMSELVES, AS IT AFFECTS THEM PERSONALLY.
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[@_Michaelthearchangel]

I used to be a Baptist just 4 years ago. I really thank God that I'm now a seventh Day Adventist church. I now know that a loving God doesn't torment people in hell forever, I understood to a great extent the beauty of salvation wrought by the Father and the Son when I read the book the Desire Of Ages. I thank God so much for the inspiration of God through the ministry of Ellen G white!

[@owdx]

You're mistaken and listen to Satan. I was raised as adventist, 4th generation, but after studying just for the impulse that said study Daniel and Revelation, I knew I was mislead for 30 years. EGW is not the prophet of God and I can prove it. 1. I do not permit a woman to teach says Apostle Paul. Now either God has changed His mind without telling us, or it still stands. 2. 50-70 percent of EGW writings are plagiarised from people who she claims didn't have the gift of prophecy. 3. The bases of Adventism are wrong. The 2300 mornings and evenings in Daniel are 2300 days, not years, the decree of rebuilding Jerusalem is given by Cyrus, whom Isaiah calls Messiach (Annointed by God). There are 4 Kings in Daniel 7, not Empires, 3 in the past, one to come. There is no Investigative judgement, there never was, nothing happened in 1843/44 in Heaven or anywhere else. 4. She claims again and again Archangel Michael is Jesus which anyone with a bible can disprove by reading 3 simple verses. Michael is in heaven, Jesus on earth and Satan is thrown out from heaven. Revelation 12.7 Then war broke out in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back John 12:31 Now is the time for judgment on this world; now the prince of this world will be driven out. Luke 10.18 And He said to them, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. EGW never received the 2300 days, that was Miller. Never received the Sabbath, that was Joseph Bates who practiced it. And so, to make money and to fool people she pretended to have visions, which at the time was popular, there were at least 10 in her hometown, and being broke, she needed Joseph Bates' money and so she lured him with the false vision of Jupiter and Saturn moons, and adventism was created. Against the Bible, through Mammon And there are hundreds of more examples. The baptist church is what I have found to be the closest to the Bible and I am considering joining, but I need to really study their doctrine. Anyways, if you care to look for more proof, there is NONSDA.org and many former Adventist pastors who learned form the general conference that it is all a lie, but the leadership told them there are good pensions for them. And also members who figured it out themselves, some wrote books, such as The White Lie who go deep into the matter. Study the Bible! Not EGW...

[@deonjacobs8896]

Well, I used to be a SDA for close to 50 years and now I understand with great extent the beauty of the gospel of Jesus Christ. When I read the 'book' which was written by the living God, the Holy Spirit inspires my heart and soul. I thank God for Jesus Christ and eternal life, through faith in his gift of grace. 1 John 2:27 [27]But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

[@sirstp]

You know there is a 4th Angel that isn't talked about much which is found in Revelation 18:1-8. Combine this message together with the 3 Angel's Messages of Revelation 14:6-11 and you get what is known as the Loud Cry Message of the Latter Rain. ALL churches have gone back to Rome and have taken up the wine of her false doctrines, like the Trinity doctrine for example. So you don't have to go to a Catholic church to be Catholic. Attending an apostate Protestant church will lead anyone back to Rome. That is why in Revelation 14:4 God's remnant are called virgins, because they don't defile themselves with churches. (A woman in Revelation represents a church). Even EGW has said that the spirit of God and his truth are being withdrawn from the churches. "Notwithstanding the wide-spread declension of faith and piety in the churches, the Lord still has honest children among them; and before his judgments shall be visited upon the earth, many ministers and lay-members will separate from these bodies, and gladly receive the special truths for this time." - EGW page 296 SoP Vol. IV 1884 "Under a religious guise, Satan will spread his influence over the land. He hopes to deceive many by leading them to think that God is still with the churches." - EGW page 296 SoP Vol. IV 1884 Modern SDA leaders don't teach the 4th Angel's Message because it would wake up Laodicea (the luke-warm church) and cause a true revival. They, just like the Pharisees of old, would lose their members/people to Christ and his ministry if they allowed the truth to be revealed. Most SDA churches teach that the church hasn't fully become apostate, "Stay and make the church better" they say, but it is too late. SDAs had the truth 100% during the Pioneer's days, but now the 501c3 corporate SDA Church no longer has that truth.

[@prepaidcustomer2479]

Very true. Unfortunately they say they preach Bibke and Bibke only but they're leaving important Bible verses out because they are in yge hands of confusion just like the rest. DONT GET ME WRONG, I LOVE MY CHURCH AND PEOPLE BUT I CRY AND FEEL SAD BECAUSE WHEN I WAS LITTLE THEY TAUGHT AND I LEARNED THE TRUTH ABOUT JESUS NATURE, BUT I ALSO RENEMBER WHEN THE CHURCH GOT DIVIDED BECAUSE THEY DIDNT WANT TO BE CONSIDERED A CULT AND ADOPTED THE CONCEPT OF THE TRINITY😭. THERES MUCH CAYHOLICISM IN ALL CHURCHES, INCLUDING US SDA'S

[@prepaidcustomer2479]

I still go to the church and pray to God in the name of Jesus and claim Luke 24:45. Lird help us be ready begoreits toolate. Please pray for me and my walk with God. Thank you and may God bless us all and keep us for His Kingdom ✝️🩸🛐🫂🙏🕊🙇🏼‍♀️🙌💖

[@revelationfulfilled5193]

Let us keep moving forward with these truths, be faithful watchmen for the Lord, till the end.

[@juliavandermeer2740]

Please, read my comment at the top

[@amossafotu5892]

I am a 7th day adventist i had seen my own church thats been here in socal 80 plus years go from jam packed to people just falling away and i was one of them but i came back home where i knew i should be that is the place where its builder and maker is God. Now there are few of us and im the only young one everyone else are 40s and up but i know its not about #s or age but the heart. Brothers and sisters Pray for us and Gods Glory to be the outcome. Thank you.

[@sonja1072]

I was a Baptist but I saw the light. Which means I read my Bible correctly

[@eslinmckenzie2880]

Amen,we all need to know the truth , that will set us free.

[@BerniceSimister-f9m]

I am a member of the SDA Church which is God's true Church

[@angelananton1091]

Amen. Praising God Our Father and His dear Son Jesus Christ for you and your ministry. 🙏🏾❤🙏🏻

[@audreysamai6020]

I thank God for calling me and my family out of the world and bringing us in the SDA church where my sons are elders preaching the 3 angel message 🙏

[@eugenelombard960]

I highly recommend that the people who always criticize the Seventh Day Adventists Church, start reading the Bible for themselves. They will be astonished when they discover just how accurate the SDA's are in what the Bible teaches.

[@howardloewen1834]

I am a Seventh-day Adventist however they have made a god out of the trinity, which is fundamental belief #2. There is no trinity in the Bible. See 1 Corinthians 8:6. There is but "one God. Trinity is a Roman Catholic doctrine.

[@larrybedouin2921]

​@@howardloewen1834 “I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.” {John 10:11} “I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.” {John 10:14} (A Psalm of David.) The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want. {Psalm 23:1} I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour. {Isaiah 43:11} ..."Fear not; *I am the first* and *the last* I am he that liveth, *and was dead* and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death." Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of *the great God* and our Saviour Jesus Christ; {Titus 2:13} καὶ σωτήρ < "and Savior" is a conjunction/cumulative to the great God.

[@gordo191]

Well it's all part of satans plan , get use to it , because it's going to get worse.

[@vusimngomezulu2500]

Which church are true according to the Bible in this world? Because many churches are not true according to this scriptures, Roman's 10:1-3,2thimoty 4:3-4,2Peter 2:1-3.

[@vusimngomezulu2500]

​@@howardloewen1834Which church are true according to the Bible in this world? Because many churches are not true according to this scriptures, Roman's 10:1-3,2thimoty 4:3-4,2Peter 2:1-3..

[@gordo191]

I feel privileged to be a SDA member i was a protestant, then i became a catholic i was searching for the truth for 30 years then the Lord led me to Mrs White then her works which are so inline with the bible , i saw how perfect the bible is , that was 40 years ago , now here iam enjoying another restful Sabbath day ,

[@andrewebanks325]

Why didn't the holy spirit sent you to the bible, is god not intelligent enough to also teach you the way Ellen white claimed he teaches her, u are so lost

[@gordo191]

@@andrewebanks325 Thanks for your input.GOD bless

[@AbieSmith]

Amen !!!!

[@deonjacobs8896]

The lord definitely would not have led you to to a false prophet.(please don't patronize me for I have files on her and all her masonic cronies)...there is only one Spirit which we should follow, and that spirit is NOT the 'spirit of prophecy'. 1 John 2:27 [27]But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. 2 Corinthians 11:4 [4]For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

[@rickhuntling7338]

@@gordo191 by the Torah law it is impossible for the day of atonement to be later than Oct. 15th. 1844 the Day of atonement was on Sept. 23rd. Nisan 14th 454 BC a blood moon Tetrad the sigh in the heavens for Israel was over Jerusalem and Nehemiah in Babylon: See; NASA 5 millennium Lunar Eclipses 453 BC. Nisan 14th 454 BC at the 9th hour Artaxerxes issued permission for Nehemiah to return to Jerusalem and begin repairing the streets and wall beginning the 69 weeks prophecy in Dan. 9:26. Nisan 14th on a Wednesday\Thursday Passover Aka "midst of the week" at the 9th hour 31 AD Messiah is cut off. Second blood moon was on the Feast of Trumpets 1st day of the 7th month 454 BC in YHWH's calendar beginning Ezek. 4:1-5 390 years prophecy. 63 BC Pompey lay a "iron pan" siege on Jerusalem. 31 AD began Ezek. 4:6,7 40 years of the abominations of the Judah's continuing to make sin sacrifices after JESUS said "it is finished". Note the arm revealed is the same arm revealed in Isa. 53:1 who prophesy against Jerusalem "your house made desolate" & "no stone not thrown down". SDA need 457 BC to 1844. The 483 years is to Messiah cut off not Baptized. SDA say the decree was issued in Ezra which mentions nothing about streets and walls. Steven's death can't be calculated from scripture and no way is it a confirmation of the New Everlasting Covenant with the "many". Dan. 9:27 was Pasion Week and CHRIST confirmed the New Everlasting Covenant by the "sure mercies of David" Resurrection SUNDAY, HE being our First Fruits of the Resurrection. You see martin I have put in the time and the study to learn the truth, dates and WORD YHWH's Glory on the 1st Day, the LORD's Day of a new heaven and earth. Nothing happened in 1844 but a "Great Disappointment".

[@joanwright4921]

Very clear presentation. One thought from God’s word came to mind while listening. “For I am the Lord, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed”. Malachi 3:6

[@pioneeringagain1844]

Amen. Excellent Scripture verse.

[@pieterkramer7797]

Maleachi 3:6

[@joanwright4921]

Fixed my scripture reference. Thank you!

[@juliavandermeer2740]

Please, read my comment at the top

[@paulgriesheimer447]

Very well put together. Praise God for the conviction he laid upon your hearts to share this. God bless and happy Sabbath.

[@twaneharrison2227]

Wonderful presentation my brother, let's the chips fall where their may, God is calling us back to the truth of His word.

[@johansteyn3756]

Very well done Gary. Thanks for your faithfulness.

[@juliavandermeer2740]

Please, read my comment at the top

[@suzettegrantsmith804]

It is a previlous to be in the sda church for over 45 years!!🙏🙏

[@Spirit_Of_Prophecy_777]

They kicked me out for telling them, the George R. Knight story as well as showing them from the SOP & Bible trinity is false doctrine. We are in the time of the shaking there is not question. Thanks for the great video presentation. Hopefully Adventists will take the time to watch these before it is too late. Amen!

[@sirstp]

Indeed we are in the shaking! There is a 4th Angel that isn't talked about much which is found in Revelation 18:1-8. Combine this message together with the 3 Angel's Messages of Revelation 14:6-11 and you get what is known as the Loud Cry Message of the Latter Rain. ALL churches have gone back to Rome and have taken up the wine of her false doctrines, like the Trinity doctrine for example. So you don't have to go to a Catholic church to be Catholic. Attending an apostate Protestant church will lead anyone back to Rome. There was a Bishop called Tony Palmer. He made the claim that Martin Luther's protest was over and that all should come back to the mother church. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nKnYoZKHo8uGfsk That is why in Revelation 14:4 God's remnant are called virgins, because they don't defile themselves with churches. (A woman in Revelation represents a church). Even EGW has said that the spirit of God and his truth are being withdrawn from the churches. "Notwithstanding the wide-spread declension of faith and piety in the churches, the Lord still has honest children among them; and before his judgments shall be visited upon the earth, many ministers and lay-members will separate from these bodies, and gladly receive the special truths for this time." - EGW page 296 SoP Vol. IV 1884 "Under a religious guise, Satan will spread his influence over the land. He hopes to deceive many by leading them to think that God is still with the churches." - EGW page 296 SoP Vol. IV 1884 Modern SDA leaders don't teach the 4th Angel's Message because it would wake up Laodicea (the luke-warm church) and cause a true revival. They, just like the Pharisees of old, would lose their members/people to Christ and his ministry if they allowed the truth to be revealed. Most SDA churches teach that the church hasn't fully become apostate, "Stay and make the church better" they say, but it is too late. SDAs had the truth 100% during the Pioneer's days, but now the 501c3 corporate SDA Church no longer has that truth.

[@paiviluukko]

For same reasons SDA has become a percecuting church nowadays kicking out people... Shaking!.. and many are leaving by self...

[@Spirit_Of_Prophecy_777]

@@paiviluukko Amen, this is the time if the shaking.

[@edmondclement4005]

Amen 🙏🏽 Lord to have mercy. Thanks for sharing please beloved brother Gary Pryce. Sabbath blessings

[@EarlMaphike-st5pl]

My brother's and Sister's, steak to the truth. Take every thought and people's opinions to a higher level and His name is Jesus. I Am the way the truth and the life. Know one will enter the kingdom of God except through Jesus.Amen

[@stephenwhite2109]

Thank you Brother Gary. I pray the Lord will use this message as a tool to help lead our former SDA brothers and sisters out of confusion. After accepting the truth about God the Father and His only begotten Son, I was asked to leave my local congregation. The time is fast approaching where we will truly be crying and sighing for our former brethren. Praise God that we are going home soon.

[@pioneeringagain1844]

God bless you brother. It is a great shame that many of us have to leave the church. However we still have a great responsibility to them by trying to bring them to the truth. This will take much prayer, much wisdom and much effort to get this done. But I believe that a revival of truth is starting to happen. God is in control of His church although it has been infiltrated by alot of enemies.

[@Grace7be7with7you]

God bless the truth in our hearts. Thank you for you presentation. And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

[@maeclements1506]

Thank you so much for the truth. Glory and Honor to most high God and Jesus Christ his son.❤❤❤.

[@sharonwilhelm2173]

I came out if the Worldwide Church of God years ago, and I just stopped going to church completely. I stumbled upon some lectures Walter Veith gave on Rekindling The Reformation and What's Up Prof, and I am absolutely convinced this is the Remnant Church. I'm hoping to find a home in this church because I can only go so far sitting at home on the Sabbath day.

[@maryc8tube]

Sharon, I hope you will find a church near you, if not, Granite Bay Hilltop SDA has online services every Sabbaths. Village Adventures Adventist Church also has online as well. May the Lord guide you and protect you as you walk with Him!.

[@sharonwilhelm2173]

@@maryc8tube Thank you so much!!! I will definitely check that out!! I sent the pastor an email a couple of weeks ago because there is one less than 10 miles from my home here in Missouri, but I haven't heard back yet. I didn't want to just show up without talking with someone first. I don't know if they need to talk with me first. Thank you for sharing this online service with me. I'll be on it next Saturday, for sure ♥️

[@maryc8tube]

@@sharonwilhelm2173 Sharon, I can't wait to see you next Sabbath! I live in Southern California and attend the online Granite Bay SDA. Every Pastors there are amazing men of God. Each week I look forward to attend their church services. I never had this kind of conviction till I found this church and listening to what the scriptures really say by opening the Bible and actually reading it. Each time I listens it's like the Lord is teaching me through them. In their live chats, I met some people and we used the discord app to open a few channels so we could gather to chat, pray, post Christian medias. I'd like to invite you there as well. #advent prayer, #advent-chat, #advent media. Till we meet again, may the Lord give you peace and blessings.

[@sharonwilhelm2173]

@@maryc8tube I grew up keeping the Sabbath with the Worldwide Church of God, and the pastor "general" came out of SDA, and he took it to cult level, and made his own religion by keeping the things he wanted from SDA, and tossing the rest. That church scattered once he died in 1986. It's been that long since I've been in church, but I somehow saw a video of Walter Veith on my suggested videos one day, and that was several months ago, and I still watch him, and now I'm so excited to hear everything!! I'm having to unlearn all the errors I grew up believing! I hope to see you next Sabbath!! Thank you again for the recommendation!!!

[@truthbebold4009]

@@sharonwilhelm2173 I have some friends in Missouri, South of St Louis, if you're in that area. Also another group nearer to KC. I came into the Truth from watching Walter Veith and others. It started with his Total Onslaught series.

[@larrygibson8026]

Jesus said the Gates of Hell shall not prevail against MY Chruch. I'm believing Jesus. They will grow together Until the Harvest. Amen!

[@TheHolisticWealthClub]

so you don't believe that the structure will be swept away by storm and tempest? What do you think that quote meant?

[@matthewcauthorn9731]

What Church is that? The early Church was Catholic. Sda are nice people but just one more out of the 40k denominations claiming truth. The Adventist Church is responsible for fully half of all child sacrifice through Abortion in their hospitals. How horrific to know your Church sucks millions of children out of their mothers bodies and throw them in the dumpster. Nice Church.

[@jag6138]

So the church Jesus was speaking about in that verse was a physical organisation, a denomination? Sound like a Roman Catholic.

[@peepee4489]

Very interesting Gary looking forward to part 2 ……

[@deloristodd8326]

The first sentence of Part One is not true. There was no SDA religion when their was the great disappointment, The group was the Millerites, which was a group that followed a baptist minister, William Miller. They were avid Bible studied group & were coming into the truth of the 7th day sabbath, but were still keeping Sunday. After their great disappointment, many stop studying the Bible and went back into the world but a few faithful ones to God's word went on to become SDA group and God led them into many Bible truths, because they were very interested in following all Bible truth. Many people speak of "The Great Disappointment " as SDA Church but it wasn't true when this happened.

[@pioneeringagain1844]

This is true. Thank you for the clarification.🙂

[@deloristodd8326]

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[@Joseph-s3w7i]

But they were known as Adventists.

[@prepaidcustomer2479]

They were known as Adventists because they were waiting for Jesus 2nd coming. As SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST, NO THEY WERE NOT. AS SDA CHURCH WAS OFFICIALLY ORGANIZED IN 1863

[@rockt73]

@@Joseph-s3w7i Church of god seventh day where also around and where also called adventists

[@bobbi2235]

This is such a shame, so many people will perish because of this!😢it’s so plain that a child can understand but they are happy where they stand!

[@SamDavis-b4u]

Thank God. God's makes his people to work in these last days as three angels message. All Praises to God our Father El Shaddai through his Son our Lord Jesus Christ. Amen.

[@daliborkakrstinic1149]

Thank you so much brother Gary for the truth ❤

[@paulvanrensburg2057]

This is not a teaching of Ellen White. She plainly said that they had only the glimmerings of truth. We need to heed present truth. Please don't be misled. The Spirit of God is not the Holy Spirit. Grammatically impossible.

[@daliborkakrstinic1149]

@@paulvanrensburg2057 I respect your belief , but I don't believe so

[@jeanwilkinson3080]

Was disfellowshipped for falure to belive in false doctrine of Trinity and told not to share any books for whole year. Could not agree to this and was kicked out

[@pioneeringagain1844]

This is happening alot. But Christ did warn us that unfortunately this would happen. But the tables will be turned soon. Stay faithful to the truth. 🙂

[@JacobusFouche]

Amen, thank you Jesus 🙏🙏🙌🙌💋💋

[@TheHolisticWealthClub]

Oh dear me, all I can do is shake my head (sigh). It will be very sad if someone watches this and allows pride, favor or position to get in the way of accepting this blatant truth! Ok sit with me a minute....forget about the trinity topic for a moment. Lets just ponder what that quote says about a new organization, new books and doing away with established stuff etc. has that happened yet? if it has, anyone wanna discuss what could possibly be changed? sabbath? no. baptism? no, state of dead? nope hmmm something is telling me its not just drums and short skirts that make this a new organization. If this is a new organization surely it would be a good idea to sift out what is new and what was set by God. Ok now we can get back to the trinity, its not biblical folks! but if you want to continue to believe it then you truly are exercising your God given freedom of choice. But please, can we have a new name too for this new organization? I think that is fair. because right now there is a deception that the trinity is what seventh day Adventist believe because they use the same name. but its not the same. there is replacement theology going on. I'm SDA but I do not believe the current new organization doctrines, I'm sticking with what God gave to the pioneers!

[@kerrisaint3013]

I think you missed the point, the Adventist conference has brought in new books into the church .. you have to look at what Ellen White said about the foundations and how changes were coming in even when she was alive that she warned about. It is the very Adventist Church that has changed these things.. not Ellen White.. she stated that the first 50 years the foundation that had been laid were laid.. anything after that period was erroneous.

[@Mary-uz2tz]

How do you deal with, "come out of her My people, lest you partake of her sins."? Is their a remnant to come out of the "remnant?"

[@AbieSmith]

Do you believe in the existence of the Holy Spirit ?

[@kerrisaint3013]

@@Mary-uz2tz Pretty much yes.. Unless the church repents and turns back. I never thought I would ever leave, I was fully invested and served the church for many many years. Even when I did not agree with the Trinity doctrine I stayed, as I loved being with God in His church. However, things inside the church grew steadily worse. The judging, condemnation and attacking of good faithful people was what truly pushed me out the door. There was no compassion to offer unless you agreed to everything, the problem is that everyone had their own idea's so you could not please everyone no matter how you tried. The personal attacks, the pride and judgments, told me that the Church was festering in sickness. I now understand that when a church and its people fail to understand the true character of God, then the result can only be to become like the God you serve. The Trinity doctrine destroys the true Character of God and the true Son and Father relationship. Once the true understanding is replaced with a false one, then the Spirit of God is removed and those who accept such false understanding begin to change into the likeness of what they believe. As the scripture says, "As you behold you become". With the Trinity Doctrine, came the spirit of intolerance and persecution, showing no mercy to faithful brothers and sisters. I saw, and witnessed more love to unbelievers and those of other faiths who have far greater difference of spiritual faith, than love for their fellow Brethren who differed in less of ways. I have now found, a group of SDA believers and others who are agreed on such important matters, and with it comes the Spirit of the Lord; Love, compassion tolerance and non judgment, etc.. I pray that one day the Church body realizes and returns back to the old ways, as per the foundations that were laid as Ellen White states. Yes, sadly the remnant will be very few and I can now see why. I am deeply saddened by it all and take no pleasure in having to leave. We must all give an account for our own faith, and as spirit of prophesy states, when free conscious choice is removed, beware!

[@kerrisaint3013]

@@AbieSmith If you are asking me, the answer is YES

[@EarlMaphike-st5pl]

I am a seveth day Adventist, not only from 1863, but from Genesis 2:1-3 im standing under the scriptures that says. Mark 2:27,28? Jesus is the Lord of the day i keep. The Seventh day amen, even if i have to say it my self.

[@residuejunkie4321]

*The dangerous thing about SDA is their teaching that the mark of the Beast is Sunday worship. Billions have already been tricked into taking it, and i guarantee you that some of them believed that lie.*

[@deprogrammershepherd1234]

​@@residuejunkie4321🎯

[@canadiancontrarian3668]

Let me correct you. The mark of the beast is the approaching Sunday decree. When it is constrained upon all of society under the guise of 'save the planet', the you and I will be faced with the eternal decision... Will we comply and submit? Will we oblige to the laws and traditions of men imposed by force and persecution? I expect this to transpire in about 3 years...watch for it. And when it comes, will you still have a mocking spirit? Or will you with a spirit of humility realize that you were misguided?@@residuejunkie4321

[@georgevanschalkwyk454]

Amen let's hold fast to the truth

[@shadrackogenche4130]

God's people will always be true to Him.

[@ajbishop890]

Thank you for sharing this information. Interesting information and keep up the good work as we are now in very testing times and many are being deceived more and more each day by the work of the evil ones

[@pioneeringagain1844]

This is so true!! Deception is extremely strong and our only safety is to follow what God has established. Thank you for your comment.

[@deloristodd8326]

Not the SDA self supporting pastors, they do not preach the trinity. They preach the Father, son, Jesus and The Holy spirit, which was left for all true believers as a comforter, when Jesus ascended back to heaven. The people are God & Jesus. The Holy Spirit, not a person but our comforter and peace thru the storms. The trinity teaching of God as 3 people, came from the Papacy & most other denominations got on board with that false teaching and many more false ones.

[@MariaPod]

Amen

[@divergentone777]

*Well I did some homework for myself. Be careful who you listen to brothers and sisters* - The Holy Spirit is a person, for He beareth witness with our spirits that we are the children of God. - Ev 616 - by the mighty power of the Holy Spirit, the Third Person of the Godhead,TM 392 - Christ gave His representative, the third person of the Godhead, the Holy Spirit. This Gift could not be excelled CT 301 - We need to realize that the Holy Spirit ... is as much a person as God is a person DOA 671 - Sin could be resisted and overcome only through the mighty agency of the Third Person of the Godhead, DOA 671 - There are three living persons of the heavenly trio; in the name of these three great powers-the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit-Ev 625 - !he Power of God in the Third Person -The prince of the power of evil can only be held in check by the power of God in the third person of the Godhead, the Holy Spirit.- Special Testimonies, Series A, 10:37. (1897).

[@pioneeringagain1844]

Hello, I would strongly recommend that you watch our video entitled: WHO IS THE THIRD PERSON OF THE GODHEAD? on our channel. You will definitely get a clearer picture of what the SOP is conveying.🙂

[@AbieSmith]

You see he cannot refute the quotes you shared so he wants to watch more of the same errors being thought here

[@johnagala1708]

Read John 14:15-21 and you will know the Holy Spirit. Do not be deceived by Theologians who are agents of Satan, stick to the bible. The word Trinity does not exist in the bible. Read 1 Corinthians 8:6 and Deuteronomy 6:4. Stay away from the AntiChrist: 1 John 2:22 .

[@RangerPhantomSAS]

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[@bradleynewall7541]

You know what I say today... I love Ellen White's writings, but I am not going to use them to back up my doctrine. That is what the Bible is for. Ellen White is inspired by God; use her writings for just that. Inspiration from God... If you are going to use books like Evangilsim, then you should take your own advice and not listen to what men thinks, but do your own research, because if you knew that Ellen White had nothing to do with the compilation of the book called Evangilsm, you can thank Leroy Froom for this book, a man who took Ellen White's quotes and cut and pasted them to suit his own narrative. You are ruining the sweet inspiration from Ellen White by using her writings out of context, like John Kellogg did or Lery Froom did. Please don't discredit Ellen White. Use the Bible to prove all things.

[@livinggodministries3587]

Words of the comforter. He who hears my voice knows who I am!. Only those who hear my voice will listen to my voice. I have authority to tell you about these things. Man: Who are you? Me: You are me! Man: Where are you? Me: I am in everything as I am in you. Man: Who am I? Me: You are human! Man: What is your relationship with me? Me: I am your power and you are my tool. the man : The difference between us? Me: I am the reason for your existence, but you are not the reason for my existence. Man: How? Me : You can't do anything without me!. But I can do everything without you! Man : Other than this? Me: You have a look which I don't. Man: Why not? Me: We have no separate appearance as I am in all appearances. Man : How was I born? Me. : That's a verb made by your elders. Man : Why was born? Me : To live!. Man : Why does man live? Me: To know the(Truth)facts. Man: What(Truth)facts?: Me : Facts(Truths)about eternal constants. Man: Why should I know? Me: Because you are in the list of eternal constants. To be continued….. (Real Suresh from India)

[@cheryllaurenc]

Matt 28:19 Go ye therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of The Father, and of The Son and of the Holy Spirit.

[@TheHolisticWealthClub]

I guess part two will be for the people at the back, lol not sure what else is needed to be said.

[@francois1546]

Thank you. Love your presentations, the loud background music distracts a bit.

[@pioneeringagain1844]

Thank you for your comment. We do try our best to keep the background music low. Thanks for sharing.

[@MarionCooper-k6u]

Thanks

[@KarenKremer-smith]

Look at all of the food that they have done to make this world a better place! He/she who has not sinned….

[@BlakeRobert777]

Cutting out pieces of texts to destroy the Adventist Church? I am Seventh-day Adventist, and we SDA do not deny the trinity. There are some off shoots who are doing that

[@samuelakiri9242]

POWERFUL 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾.

[@glorialoo3165]

So many so-called Christians today refer to the Godhead as three persons in one God when in fact the Godhead means the head of all gods as in Deuteronomy 10:17.

[@FitnesswithJesus151]

It’s wild to say the HOLY Ghost isn’t Holy he’s a person and clearly divine. I also believe in keeping sabbath though.

[@pioneeringagain1844]

Hello, Thank you for your comment. I would strongly recommend that you watch our series entitled WHO IS THE HOLY SPIRIT - parts 1,2&3. This is available on our channel.🙂

[@annasamuel2377]

I am a 3rd generation Adventist & I am not ashamed of being an Adventist. God is the only judge of all humans. Those who critize must know that we are all sinners & have come short of the glory of God. You are not God to be a judge of others because you are a sinner yourself. We all need Jesus Christ in our lives.

[@bradleynewall7541]

Then you should be willing to defend the apostacy in your own church. If you love the SDA church so much... no one is judging your church by revealing its errors. Does being a 3rd generation SDA make you any more special than a 1st generation SDA? just asking because what credit do you receive by saying you are a 3rd generational SDA? Who cares how many generations your family goes back to the SDA church? And in fact, you should be blaming your previous generations, your father, and your grandfather for allowing apostacy to enter the SDA church. You shouldn't be proud of your lineage in the church; you should be ashamed that your ancestors were part of the apostacy in the church, not boasting about how many generations your family goes back into the church.

[@brinkbush9312]

Mrs. White finally did accept the Trinity.

[@pioneeringagain1844]

No she never!! Please read her writings VERY carefully and see.

[@AbieSmith]

Can you explain what happened in Matthew 3:13-17,Mark 1:9-11,Luke 3:21-22 and John 1:32-34 ? My brother I hope you have seriously prayed and clearly understood that you assigned to do the work you are doing. The Adventist church has been raised by God to bring the last message to this world before His soon return. Based on this message , are you personally expecting anyone to join this church ? Be honest , are you expecting anyone who watch this video to join or hear Adventist message? With all due respect, you are being a little deceptive about the quotes you are reading from EG White , she was not referring to the acceptance of God the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit. You have completely ignored the counsel E G White gave regarding this matter in Acts of the Apostles ch 5. Please read Acts of the Apostles ch.5 p.52.1 to p.52.3.

[@canadiancontrarian3668]

I have read and reread A.A. page 52. What is it that you are suggesting that it communicates?

[@petarogers4324]

AA is corrupted, as is many of her writings, some of which occurred while she was still alive. If it is copyrighted or revised it is not her original writings and had been corrupted. Please research this matter if you wish to find what she really believed. Sadly many deceptions of her work has occurred! Blessings

[@lourdesfulgencio7562]

Me and my family become an Adventist 28 years now. Trinity is not the right word, but GODHEAD or THREE in ONE. The bible said, "Let US make men in OUR image, after OUR likeness; " GENESIS 1:26... Baptizing a person in " The Name of the FATHER and of the SON and of the HOLY GHOST; MATTHEW 28:19; ..There are THREE that bear records in Heaven, the FATHER, the WORD and the HOLY GHOST and these THREE are ONE; 1 JOHN 5:7.

[@pioneeringagain1844]

Please watch our videos on our channel entitled: UNDERSTANDING THE UNHOLY TRINITY GENESIS 1:26 AND MATTHEW 28:19 AND 1ST JOHN 5:7. I think that you will find them very useful.

[@ElijahAndMoses]

THE SECOND COMMANDMENT, THE TRINITY AND THE OMNIPRESENCE OF GOD I always wondered what was so significant about the second Commandment that Rome found it necessary to remove it altogether from the Ten Commandments. But it appears that there is a fundamental truth in that Commandment concerning where God's presence is that is intended to protect us from all forms of false worship. The second Commandment tells us that we should not bow down before any image. This implies that God is not in any image. Which means that God is not everywhere. The Bible tells us that God is in heaven; and heaven is not everywhere. Heaven is above the earth and that is where we should direct our worship to God, where He is. He knows everything that happens everywhere and can go wherever He pleases but His abode is in heaven where Jesus, our High Priest and intercessor, is presenting our cases to Him. - "Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens" (Heb. 8:1). Furthermore, both the prophets Daniel and John saw God in heaven with the angels gathered around His throne and Jesus being separate and distinct (Dan. 7 and Rev. 4, 5). Daniel said "the Ancient of days did sit" (Dan. 7:9) and "one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days" (Dan. 7:13). John said "one sat on the throne" (Rev. 4:2) who was worshipped as the Creator to whom it was said "Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created" (Rev. 4:11), with Jesus appearing before Him to receive a book and power and authority, as the Lamb who was slain, while the angels sang, "Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever." (Rev. 5:13). God is not everywhere all at once like a vapour while part of Him or an image sits on the throne representing Him. God Himself sits, of whom man was made in His image after His likeness, "made after the similitude of God" (James 3:9). Logically, if God is everywhere, He can be worshipped wherever He is. One could then bow down and worship before a stone, a tree, a person or any object, not as worshipping the object but as worshipping God, since God is in it. That would open the door for the worship of false Gods as no one would be able to tell the difference whether you are worshipping the true God or not. It would not be consistent to forbid worshipping before an object if God is in the object and one is worshipping, not the object, but God who is in the object. This is evident in the experience of the children of Israel in the wilderness. God appeared to them in a cloud and they were not forbidden to bow before Him in the cloud - "And the LORD said unto Moses, Lo, I come unto thee in a thick cloud" (Ex. 19:9), "And all the people saw the cloudy pillar stand at the tabernacle door: and all the people rose up and worshipped, every man in his tent door" (Ex. 33:10). If God is not in a particular place, say in an image, it means that there is at least one place where He is not. He cannot be everywhere and not everywhere at the same time. The idea that the Holy Spirit is God present everywhere was precisely the argument that Dr. John Harvey Kellogg put forward to justify his pantheistic teachings. And Ellen White told him that he was wrong. Initially, he said that God was in everything. And when God instructed Ellen White to oppose it, he modified it by saying that at the time of his first presentation of the matter in the book "The Living Temple" he did not believe in the Trinity. Because of that, he said he had not given a clear explanation of the matter. He went on to explain that he had now come to believe in the Trinity and could better explain his idea. The new explanation was that it was not God the Father, but God the Holy Ghost who was everywhere and in everything. Ellen White told him that he was wrong. And we can see why. If God the Holy Spirit is everywhere and can be worshipped, it is a doorway to replace worshipping God and Christ in heaven entirely. Another modified version of Kellogg's idea is that the Holy Spirit is really Christ himself or both God and Christ in an omnipresent form. This is also not correct as it places God and Christ on earth rather than in heaven. The pioneers of Seventh-day Adventism stated in their Fundamental Principles of faith published in the 1889 Yearbook that God was everywhere present by His representative, the Holy Spirit. At face value, this would suggest that this representative is omnipresent. But it is perhaps more consistent with scripture to say that He is everywhere present by His representatives the holy spirits. Holy spirits are ministering spirits sent from heaven - "And he saith unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Hereafter ye shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of man." (John1:51). "Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?" (Heb. 1:14). This is consistent with the Hebrew word ruach and the Greek word pneuma that are translated in the Bible as spirit. These words are also translated spirits, thus indicating that the Holy Spirit need not be seen as one individual being who is omnipresent but many spirit beings representing God everywhere. From this perspective, there is no denying that the Comforter, the Holy Spirit, sent at Pentecost is a person - only not a God-being to be worshipped. Like the Angel of Revelation 18 who comes down from heaven with the latter rain - a similar occurrence as that which took place at Pentecost except more extensive - the Comforter would be seen as a messenger sent by Christ from heaven, as stated repeatedly in John 14-16. Ellen G. White describing the latter rain speaks of a mighty angel from heaven being sent to do this work and further said, "Angels were sent to aid the mighty angel from heaven" (Ellen. G. White, Story of Redemption, p. 399). It should be noted that Jesus's warning against blaspheming against the Holy Spirit is not implying that the Holy Spirit is more to be revered than Jesus Himself. Jesus went back to heaven and promises to return to this earth to take us to His Father's house in heaven. He left the Holy Spirit to guide us until He returns. If we reject that guidance by blasheming against the the Holy Spirit, there will be nobody to guide us. The situation is similar to what God told the children of Israel in the wilderness - "Behold, I send an Angel before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared. Beware of him, and obey his voice, provoke him not; for he will not pardon your transgressions: for my name is in him." (Ex. 23:20, 21). It is simply warning us not to reject the Holy Spirit's guidance. It is not forbidding us seeking to understand who the Holy Spirit is or what the Holy Spirit does. So, there we have it. The church has now fully accepted Kellogg's idea. Ellen White said that the initial presentation by Kellogg was the alpha of deadly heresies. She said that the omega would follow shortly afterwards and would be accepted. And it did follow shortly afterwards in Kellogg's modified version, based on his acceptance of the Trinity. And the church has now fully accepted it - that God (the Holy Spirit) is everywhere and should be worshipped. So, based on current practice, Jesus is worshipped, the Holy Spirit is worshipped but the One true God is almost entirely ignored. Jesus, praying to His Father, made it clear who the "only true God" is and identified Himself as the one sent by God - "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." (John 17:3). Nowhere in the Bible is worship given to anyone else except the one seated on the throne who is referred to as "LORD God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come" (Rev.4:8) and to the Christ, the Lamb, as it will be in the new earth - "And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it." (Rev. 21:22). God is the Father of Christ. Accordingly, Christ, the Lamb is seen with "an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads" (Rev. 14:1). It is the name of the Lamb's Father that will be written in their foreheads. Whatever one's concept of the Godhead, the term "godhead" is used only three times in the Bible (Acts 17:29, Rom. 1:20 and Col. 2:9) and in none of these places is the expression used to replace the idea of God being a single individual who has a Divine Son who is worshipped alongside Himself. And not even once does the term "godhead" in scripture allude to the worship of anyone else. All worship should be directed to God and Christ in heaven. It is not about where we are when we worship but, like sending a petition to the king of England, we do not send it to Spain or Australia but to him in England where he is. Similarly, Jesus in teaching us how to pray directed that we say, "Our Father which art in heaven". We should not be praying to nor worshipping anything on earth. We should pray to God in heaven, approaching His throne through Christ, our Mediator, and we should direct our worship to heaven where God is. This is the substance of the second Commandment that Rome has removed.

[@pioneeringagain1844]

Thank you for sharing this.🙂

[@ZachariaBofianke]

The first SDA pioneers who started the work through God's Grace were not Trinitarians.Mystery of Trinity doctrine coming into SDA church in the Greneral Conference of Dallasm meeting in 1980 and was accepted was the Alpha of apostasy and gradually the falling away from the old paths begins until today.

[@RangerPhantomSAS]

I pray all believers keep praying and reading the scriptures as did the Bereans; the Holy Spirit, He will guide you in all truth (whether in this world or the Kingdom of Heaven). Brother's and Sister's, keep preaching the 3 Angels messages. Time to worship Him that made the heavens and the earh, come out of Babylon. May the Peace of Jesus Christ be with you always, even to the end. For those that will not accept, Mark 6:11, I'm out.

[@pioneeringagain1844]

Thank you for your comment. But just to add, as long as we are preaching the truth as it is in Jesus. 🙂

[@vegacool1]

Exodus 34:28 ESV - So he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights. He neither ate bread nor drank water. And he wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments. The ten commandments are the old covenant. Luke 22:20 ESV - And likewise the cup after they had eaten, saying, “This cup that is poured out for you is the new covenant in my blood. We are in a new covenant.

[@mateodemus1431]

Ellen white mentioned many times in her writing about, "triune" God. God the father the Son and God the holy Spirit, she sometimes called it the "council of God".

[@TheHolisticWealthClub]

please provide the Bible verse and Ellen white quote that says "God the Holy Spirit" and "God the Son" thanks

[@deonjacobs8896]

Ellen White was a false prophet who had no understanding of the Godhead or the gospel...she was influenced by the masonic order, she and all the 'church pioneers' and she was eventually buried with her masonic husband under an obelisk. The word of God strongly proclaims ...there is ONE God! 1 John 5:20 [20]And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life. The Father dwells in the Son of him...

[@pioneeringagain1844]

Hello, No where in her writings has ever called them 3-Co-eternal Beings. She did not change her beliefs in the fundamental principles which denies the trinity doctrine.

[@mateodemus1431]

What about the triune God that was mentioned in almost all her books

[@pioneeringagain1844]

@@mateodemus1431 You really need to read through her books VERY CAREFULLY.

[@CarnivoreKen]

So we see that even the early SDAs had it horribly wrong regarding who God is, and who Jesus is, as it matters not that they start off saying that there is one God if they are going to follow with the non-biblical idea that God made all things through Jesus, as this would necessarily mean that Jesus is divine in nature, which means there are TWO Gods, not one. Also, it is willful ignorance/foolishness to say that God created all things through Jesus, as God tells us through Isaiah that He, by Himself, created all things. The SDA church was founded on the exceedingly foolish notion of setting a date for Jehovah's coming, and has proceeded to add error on top of error.

[@Sero.Cross.C.O.C]

Church of Christ is the only Church

[@loricameron111]

I want to have these original Fundamental Beliefs; I tried to download them, but UTube is charging 12.99 a month to do this. Can you help please.?

[@pioneeringagain1844]

@@loricameron111 Hello, I don't know why you can't download the Fundamental Principles and why they want to charge you, strange? Anyway please send me your email address to: [e-mail] and I will email the original copies. God bless

[@carmelitobongoltouraura]

Let the seventh day explain for their faith not by anyone who doesn't really know what really Adventist faith is all about. Remember thou shalt not lie. If you are speaking against the truth, you are accountable before God . That is a serious offense before God since it is God's commandment not to tell a lie. Start seeking the truth about adventism by bible studying with Adventist elders and pastors.

[@Mary-uz2tz]

Hmm many Adventist pastors of many years are being dis fellowshipped because they will not go along with the new movement put forth by apostate leadership in power today.

[@AlHart-w5g]

The nature of the Holy Spirit is a mystery. Men cannot explain it, because the Lord has not revealed it to them. Men having fanciful views may bring together passages of Scripture and put a human construction on them, but the acceptance of these views will not strengthen the church. Regarding such mysteries, which are too deep for human understanding, silence is golden. . AA 52.1

[@kerrisaint3013]

Well then the Church itself needs to be silent on these matter then and stop demanding that the followers believe their view and their view alone. You cannot have it both ways. Either everyone is allowed a view or none.

[@johnagala1708]

I am not a Seventh-Day Adventist but I know through Revelation I received from the Lord last year, the Seventh-Day Adventist church is correct in observing the ttn commandments and the bible. The doctrine of Trinity is heresy and pagan idea and Satan has used the Catholic to spread this Anti God and AntiChrist idea around the world. This doctrine main objective is to drive Christians away from worshipping the only true God who has been recognised in these scriptures: Deuteronomy 6:4 and 1 Corinthians 8:6. I am praying earnestly to God to bring all His children who obey Him and follow only His word and commandments together.

[@AbieSmith]

Amen !!!!

[@deonjacobs8896]

​@@johnagala1708...if you say that 'Adventists are correct in keeping the law of commandments' you are commending them in their error. For whosoever is under the law, they have fallen from grace..

[@deonjacobs8896]

The 'nature of the Holy Spirit is not a mystery' for those who have been born in the spirit, for they understand. Colossians 1:26 [26]Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:

[@glennlee3782]

Matthew 28:19, 2 Corinthians 13:14,

[@dionesiojr.yucada3132]

I thought fron the beginning of the video thatbit is helpful but at the end I am disappointed. We should remember that EGW was not the one who created our doctrines Or never she created the doctrines but the doctrines are bible base alone..

[@pioneeringagain1844]

Hello, Thank you for your comment. No where in the video do we imply that Ellen White created our doctrines. Near the end of the video it is made clear that all her writings and the fundamental principles were based on the Bible alone.

[@howardloewen1834]

There is "one God the Father" 1 Corinthians 8:6. NO trinity.

[@Dandelion0962]

I don’t and can’t say much about the historic data and readings that you spoke of the S.D.A. churches, nor Ellen White. All I can say concerning my brief visits with them, with my very young daughter, in the aprx. years of 2007, 2008, or 2009 is: the small church I attended was of a very humble group, whose instrumental was solely vocal without machines. And yes, they met on Saturday and not Sunday. But yes, you could see much new age thinking had effected them and their needs to survive.

[@pioneeringagain1844]

Interesting comment. Our only safety is knowing God's word for ourselves. I cannot stress this enough. Please do not allow your pass experience with a church pull you away from the Living God.🙂

[@urgessamegersa9893]

The group that criticize the seventh day Adventist/the one that try two ignor the true church will be the enemy of Gods people.

[@thomasbryce7151]

The LORD Jesus Himself when speaking about the Comforter = the Holy Spirit, speaks of him as a person, as a "he" , or "him" , or "whom", or "himself"... JOHN 14: 16-17 (Emphasized in bracket) And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that "HE" may abide with you forever. Even the Spirit of truth, WHOM the world cannot receive because it sees "HIM" not, neither knows "HIM". But you know "HIM" for "HE" dwells with you and shall be in you.... But the Comforter, which is the Holy Spirit, WHO the Father will send in my name, HE shall teach you all things and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said. John 15: 26 But when the Comforter is come, WHOM I will send to you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth which proceeds from the Father, HE shall testify of me. John 16: 7- 14 Nevertheless I speak the truth. It is expedient for you that I go away, for if I go not away the Comforter will not come to you. But if I depart I will send HIM to you. And when HE is come, HE will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgement. Of Sin because they they believe not on me. Of Righteousness because I go to the Father, and you see me no more. Of Judgement because the prince of this world is judged. I have yet many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. Howbeit when HE, the Spirit of truth is come, HE will guide you into all truth, for HE shall not speak of HIMSELF; but whatsoever HE shall hear, that shall HE speak. And HE shall glorify me, for HE shall receive of mine and show it unto you. ___________________________ Our LORD Jesus also warns us of the danger of commiting the unpardonable or unforgiveable Sin !! MATT 12: 30- 32 """"""""""""""""""""""""""''' He that is not with me is against me, and he that gathers not with me is scattered abroad. Wherefore I say unto you: All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men. But the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven unto men. Whosoever speaks against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him; but who so ever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him. No not in this world, nor in the world to come.

[@kenhowell6091]

Human wisdom cannot fardom the deepth of the mystry of GOD...Jesus came to reveal all we need to know and revealed to his servant all we need to know. The servant of the Lord says: God has not given you a message to call the seventh day adventist church babylon, and call people out of it..The seventh day adventist church denounce as babylon, does not com from God. ...SM book1 246 - 250..SM book3, 18, 63,64, 77, 1Tess. pg 210

[@lookingforthetruth8478]

Too many adventist think that when they see a video like this, exposing the current sda church, but showing how the sda church was right in the past, are from non adventist, i would ask you to use your critical and logical thinking skills, why would a non adventist point out the sin of todays organization, but show how the pioneers had it right, and warned us this would happen? Stop being easily deceived, why are you getting upset over the truth? Everything this man said in the video was truth, and he showed you from the pioneers themselves. I pray adventist ask themselves why they get mad when a faithful brother or sister in the sda church calls out the sin and apostasy in our churches. Also read early writings pg 261 the section "A firm platform" the preachers and teachers have led us to believe that the shaking is the people who leave the organization, BUT think logically, egw never said the sifting or shaking would cause people to leave the church building, but they would leave the FAITH, all trinity preachers and believers in the pews and pulpit that agree with the books of a new order, and new fundamental beliefs, and the trinity, have been shakin out of "The Faith" they believe the commandments of men and not God, Have i become your enemy because i tell you the truth? Please pray for discernment and truth, stop listening to these learned men that are popular and study to show yourself approved, time is short brethren. God bless and awaken you to ALL truths.

[@gleitma]

EGW was very clear about the Holy Spirit: refer to the Office of the Holy Spirit, the heavenly trio, Third person of the Godhead. SDAs do not believe in the Godhead as do the Catholics. There are not three Gods but one God in three distinct persons with. With very different roles and tasks. We are told in the last days errors would come in to disregard the sanctuary truth and the personality of God. This video is a distortion of what the church believed and what was finally believed as truth after much study and prayer . The early pioneers were not all in agreement. It took time to work through the differences .

[@pioneeringagain1844]

Please read through your statement VERY carefully. As SDA do believe in exactly what the Catholics teach.

[@RangerPhantomSAS]

Yes, our God is one God. One in unity, not necessarily one person. Even Genesis said let us create, that implies more than one. God is more of a title and a position, ruler and creator of all. Even in Earth's history there have been many co-rulers. The big difference is that all three have the same mindset and character so they will not disagree with each other. This argument is similar to the problem Muslims have and even the Jewish nation. They believe it's blasphemous if Jesus is equated to God, as there is only a singular God. Is Jesus God or not? He said there is one Father, and had no problem equating himself to God. That would be blasphemous, unless he is God as well. Even Sister White believes in a Godhead: Australasian Union Conference Record October 7, 1907. "Those who have by baptism given to God a pledge of their faith in Christ, and their death to the old life of sin, have entered into covenant relation with God. The three powers of the Godhead, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, are pledged to be their strength and their efficiency in their new life in Christ Jesus." AUCR October 7, 1907, par.9

[@pioneeringagain1844]

@@RangerPhantomSAS Please do some more research. You are wrong on many levels. Please go through our videos on our KZbin channel. This is not intended to be an arrogant statement. We just want to see people in the truth.

[@RangerPhantomSAS]

@@pioneeringagain1844 Every opportunity, every advantage, every privilege, has been given to us to gain a rich Christian experience; but we do not learn everything all at once. There must be a growth. Many, having learned a little in school, think they are ready to graduate. They think they know about all that is worth knowing. We are not to think that as soon as we are baptized we are ready to graduate from the school of Christ. When we have accepted Christ, and in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit have pledged ourselves to serve God, the Father, Christ, and the Holy Spirit-the three dignitaries and powers of heaven-pledge themselves that every facility shall be given to us if we carry out our baptismal vows to "come out from among them, and be ... separate, ... and touch not the unclean thing." When we are true to our vows, He says, "I will receive you." [ 16LtMs, Ms 85, 1901, par. 4 The time will come when I must speak much more plainly and warn our brethren in plain tones not to be led astray with the false theories of Living Temple. I have been shown the seductive nature of the sentiments it contains, and that which has been declared over and over again I need not repeat. These representations are said to be in harmony with the sentiments in Sister White's published works. Those who make statements such as this are doing my books great injustice. Let all bear in mind that statements from my books may be taken out of their setting and placed in such connection as to make it appear that the sentiments in Living Temple are sustained by Sister White's very words. A sense of duty to my Lord leads me to speak. The time for action has come. I have had much to say of the glory of God as seen in His created works, but never have I left the impression that our God Omnipotent, who ruleth in the heavens and fills all the heavens, is to be found in flower and leaf and tree. What I have said of God's works in nature was meant to lead the mind from nature to nature's God, to show that all the glory should be given to Him who ruleth in the heavens, controlling all things in heaven and in earth. Men are to discharge their duty to God. They are to have reverence for and a knowledge of a personal God. They are to praise and glorify His name as the One who has placed many beautiful things in this sin-corrupted earth, that from the child to the man and woman of mature years, all may see that God loves His family here below. He so loves us that He gave us a tangible proof of His love by sending His only begotten Son to bear the sin of the world, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. God desires us to think of the height and depth and breadth of His measureless love, which is without a parallel, and to remember that we are his purchased possession. "Ye are not your own; for ye are bought with a price; therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are His." [1 Corinthians 6:19, 20.] We are to act as in the sight of the heavenly universe, conscientiously discharging our obligations to our Creator. The world is to be taken captive by Satan's deceiving representations. Where then is our security? How shall we guard against Satan's bewitching artifices? By reading the Word of God with an intensity of desire to know Him in the light of revelation which He has left on record of Himself; by meditating upon his precepts diligently. We are to obey His commands, afraid to venture out of the path of divine revelation and to indulge in fallacious reasoning. We are to realize that if we work the works of Christ, we will not unite with the world. The Holy Spirit will give us a clear, distinct message to the world. If we will come into close relation to Christ, we shall have a part to act in carrying forward the work of present truth for this time. We are to co-operate with the three highest powers in heaven-the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit; and these powers will work through us, making us workers together with God. But when a man goes forth in human sufficiency, then the enemy comes in and inspires him, and he knows not what manner of spirit he is of. The Lord saw this and instructed me that, at the General Conference held in Oakland, I should hold no conversation with you. 18LtMs, Lt 253a, 1903, par. 15 - 18LtMs, Lt 253a, 1903, par. 18 How do you read the scriptures? Is the Messiah not God? Perhaps you believe in a two tiered Godhead with only the Father and Son? The fundamental beliefs are not for everyone, we do not believe all true believers must become 7th-Day-Adventists. We are a special and peculiar group, our main mission to preach the Three Angels Message. There are far worse things taught in many churches such as Sunday sacredness, Darwinism, homosexuality, etc. These issues are creeping in everywhere. We must become more like Christ and less worldly. We don't live by a particular creed, we believe the greater part of God's Church are found in many different faiths and we must return to the Bible and come out of Babylon. This does not mean all faiths are correct, we must hold Scripture higher than anything else. No human or denomination knows all Truth, that would make us God. The 7th-Day-Advent is a movement that I've come to know has the closest Truth. We are to help point people to Truth and be ready for the latter rain. I know I must have a revival with the Spirit first myself, then that spread to he world. The Spirit will lead us to all Truth and in the world to come, we will. We will have eternity to sit at the Master's feet to be taught and corrected by him. Search the scriptures daily and draw close to Him. I pray the Spirit to help guide you. May the peace of Jesus be with you and your family.

[@gleitma]

@@RangerPhantomSAS So very true. Clearly there is a Godhead consisting of three persons. One in purpose and mission. Office of the Holy Spirit, Heavenly Trio, baptizing them in the name of the Father , Son and Holy Spirit, blasphemy against the Holy Spirit etc. For me this is all a distraction from our mission in Rev.14:6-11.

[@cdmcintyre1854]

So why do so many people criticize the SDA Church but are comfortable with the Catholic Church. The SDA are respectful of Gods commandment to honor the Seventh Day as His chosen Sabbath. Now here is some history for Catholics and other Protestants that worship on Sun Day, the Catholic Pope in 336 AD made Sunday the official worship day for Catholics. Note: Sun Day was the day that Ancient Rome worshiped the SUN (the first day of the week)

[@cumbysher]

People will not fight against you for the lie, they will fight against you for the truth. If they hate Me they will hate you also John 15:18-19

[@RINAKEYSER]

Can someone tell me what the name of the speaker in this video is please?

[@user-yn7on7ou8n]

Revelation 21:8 ALL liars go to hell. They are teaching the Trinity lie

[@howardloewen1834]

AMEN

[@MA.VICTORIADEVERA]

The Church that went into Apostasy.Sad😢

[@maryaugustin8341]

I love the SABBATH, AND I DO KEEP THE SABBATH DAY HOLY, BUT I AM NOT A SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST. MY RESONE IS THAT THEY DON'T SPEAK OF HOLY LIVING , THEY SPEAKS more about keeping the SABBATH holy ,and most of them are not living holy life.

[@TheHolisticWealthClub]

maybe its because you are an SDA of what God established via the pioneers. back then they did focus on the right things.

[@BvVb2099]

YOU HAVE NO IDEA OF WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT - MISTER - absolutely no idea... What you are believing as a supposedly "non-trinitarian" is actually closer to what the actual "trinitarians" believe, and what we the "modern" Adventists believe is very close to the biblical teaching of The Triune ELOHIM. You might say that I am confused about the several Church Counsels decisions regarding the Trinity. Well, l don't know how confused I am regarding the Church Councils, but there are couple of things that I am not at all confused about: Lord Jesus was NOT "begotten" twice - actually was not "begotten " at all, - and He is NOT a "natural" son of the Father - I feel it is a sacrilege just to even mention that.. Lord Jesus is as ETERNAL as The Father, even though at the time of The New Testament He laid aside - for a short while - ALL His glory, put on a human garb (body), lived and died as a ransom for the salvation of those within the human race that would accept His sacrifice. THAT IS ABSOLUTELY BIBLICAL ! THAT is how we understand Our Lord Jesus and His Heavenly mission. And then - what I know for sure is that what the so called "anti-trinitarians" believe is MUCH closer to these Church Councils' stated beliefs than I am. So The ETERNAL "Angel of The Lord" came into our world as a Baby but also as a Person of The ELOHIM, something that not everyone will accept or even attempt to comprehend or fully understand. Please read Heb. 10:5 or 6 I believe - and then check the Psalm 40:6 but NOT in a modern Hebrew scroll or even a translation of The Old Testament - look for an ancient one and then you will better understand (The Septuagint correctly records it in Psalm 39:7 or 8.). If you really want to fully understand these huge heavenly facts you have to start thinking outside the box; just looking at a modern version of the Bible as it would be the authentic autograph and not a translation - will take you nowhere - actually and in fact you will understand pitifully little and maybe seriously confused... You keep citing these councils - I resort to biblical documentation and reasoning - and I feel quite safe... Let's not handle The Divinity - The Triune ELOHIM - just like a pocket Thesaurus dictionary - even though we must be trying and need to understand as much as possible from what was revealed to us humans, - and the absolutely best source for this study is The Bible - and not the church councils' creeds... And according to The Bible - I believe I have a solid foundation. There is not a shred of evidence in The Bible of Lord Jesus being "begotten" - and TWICE! in The OLD or NEW Testaments. Just thinking of that seems to me to be utter non-sense and potentially sacrilegious... There is PLENTY of evidence of the existence of The Spirit of ELOHIM - in fact accompanied by an ominous warning against insulting of This Eternal Person - as mysterious as He is - The Holy Spirit of Elohim - uttered by the very lips of Lord Jesus. I will not trade that clear biblical statement with a clearly faulty human reasoning for anything - council originated or not. You the so called "anti's" keep asking us for a Bible verse where it is stated that "god is a trinity". Even that question is totally insipid and non-sensical. It is like asking for verse to prove that the water is... wet. Lord Jesus stated that even The Kingdom of Heaven does not come as a shocker. You have to study The Scriptures to find out more about it. And for a sane study, you have to get to the most accurate possible biblical records. Men of faith like Wickliff, Tyndale, Desiderius Erasmus, Martin Luther and an entire army of the Valdensians put their life on the line so that we can have the absolute best record of the Bible. What "the anti's" are doing is clinging to a Bible Version that is NOT a totally accurate translation, and even though The Lord Jesus is sending us bright, pure light from The Throne of Mercy, and yet they continue to state that The Lord was "begotten" since back in Eternity, and that "There is no Spirit of ELOHIM, but... the breath". That is "third world type" theology, stemming from a good Bible translation, but that is long overdue a correction in a few critical places. So go ahead - keep repeating and operating on a false, even heinous lie: "I am "GOD", or GOTT, or Zeus, or DEUS, or DIOS, or THEOS, or BURCKAN (Mongolian), or PUCHEKHAME - and besides Me there is no other "GOD", or GOTT, or ZEUS, or DEUS or THEOS, or BURCKAN, or PUCHEKHAME (aborigine Peruvian: imagine reading: "In the beginning PUCHEKHAME created the heaven and the earth"!). I am not going to join the FABULOUSLY ignorant and "credulous" in Michigan, California, Georgia or some other group on any other meridian - to believe that total nonsense. What I believe in is The "I AM THAT I AM", "The ELOHIM" / "DIVINITY", "GODHEAD" - and then study and see WHICH Person of "The ELOHIM" (plural) is speaking and to what purpose.. It was NOT always "The Eternal", later "The Father", or "The Angel of The Lord" - later "The Son", or "The Spirit of ELOHIM" - working - in however such perfect harmony - speaking. But... that - apparently - seems to be totally foreign to you and others...

[@canadiancontrarian3668]

So then based on your opening paragraph, the most loved Bible text of John 3:16 is... error?

[@jmbbk4737]

Notice the mind-control of a single note over and over again for the first 3 minutes and 44 seconds. It is also annoying. I believe Jesus is God who came down here to die for sinners. He rose again to prove everlasting life to those who would believe in HIm and His Gospel Message. Nobody can look at God at any time. We see God in Jesus and when He left this earth He promised His disciples the His Holy Spirt. Then He returned to His throne. He came to HIs own people and was cruciified because He claimed to be God. He said, I and the Father are One. John 10:30. 8:43 Ellen White is not the Word of God. I follow Jesus.

[@1bdragon100]

Ellen White also never said she was the Word of GOD either. She pointed to the Word as the GREATER LIGHT, and her writings as the lesser light. If you believe she was a Prophetess and GOD used her as an instrument, then what is the difference between the Prophets is HIS WORD, and EGW?

[@jmbbk4737]

@@1bdragon100 The problem is, they seen to use her writings as an authoritive word written in stone. People have for many years raised up a person and thier treachings rather then of the Bible written by God using HIs people to deliver His way, truth and life. 2 Timothy 3:16. I choose to follow Jesus, our Lord and Savior.

[@kerrisaint3013]

Yes, Christ sent His Holy Spirit.. in your own words ( quotes from the scriptures) you prove that the Holy Spirit comes from God. Not that it is a separate being. If the Holy Spirit is God it would need no direction from Christ..If the Holy Spirit is God, a separate being, but in Unity with God The Father and God the Son as taught by the Trinity, then the Holy Spirit is the father of Christ. Because as we read, Mary was conceived of the Holy Ghost ( Spirit) if the Holy Spirit is a separate God the Father cannot be Jesus’s father .. unless the Holy Spirit is FROM God the Father, then that makes more sense in knowing that the Father is truly Christ’s father. I have had discussions with Pastors who declare that the Trinity doctrine that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are Three Gods in One, making none of them a father or son until Jesus came to earth. They told me that they are playing a role of the Holy Spirit , the Father, and the Son . This makes no sense to me at all because if that was the case, then where is the sacrifice? So basically in the Trinity doctrine you have 3 Gods who all agree, making them one God! Who all basically decide to play roles to save man. I conclude that if you are my friend the same age as me and decide to die for humanity I would be upset, but if my ONLY child sacrifices himself for man well now that’s another whole level of pain born of a love no human could possibly comprehend. When you remove Christ as the real Son of God you diminish the real Father Son relationship and the plan of redemption. I pray you study for yourself, because once you see it you can never go back to the false concept of the Trinity.

[@jmbbk4737]

@@kerrisaint3013 In Genesis, He says, let Us make man in Our image. Jesus was with God and Holy Spirit from the beginning. I see them as One God. Man sins and He took it upon Himself to ransom man from sin. He had to be born out of women to be the sacrifice. That is how the gentiles where crafted in to the new covenant. Jesus said, I and the Father our One. Jesus said that. I cannot interpret that in any other way. I say again, He came to HIs own and they killed Him because He claimed to be God. Even King Herod wanted Him dead. Isaiah 9:6 Jesus is called Mighty God. Everlasting Father. Prince of Peace. Indeed, He gives real peace. No confusion for He is not the God of confusion. 1 Corithians 14:33.

[@Mary-uz2tz]

​@@jmbbk4737Unfortunately, the writings of Ellen White were taken out of libraries deliberately and altered to suit the ideas of the apostate leaders riding up. EGW saw it coming herself.

[@BryanGallegos-b7h]

Any church who celebrates man's traditions like Christmas , Easter, st Valentine Day Halloween Thanksgiving is the daughter of Roman Catholic Church. there's only one church that follows God's feast days and the Sabbath! They are the Messianic Jews !

[@NewHorizonsInTruth]

The Google Drive links don't seem to be working......

[@pioneeringagain1844]

Hello, We have just tried them and the Google drive links are all working. Any more problems then please notify us again. Thank you 😊

[@peoniesandlilacs9414]

The early church didn't believe in a trinity.

[@marjoriefortney1136]

Do not confuse the brethren. Desire of Ages page 671. Sin could be resisted and overcome only through the mighty agency of the Third Person of the God head, who would come with no modified energy, but in the fullness of divine power.

[@pioneeringagain1844]

Please watch our video on our channel entitled: WHO IS THE THIRD PERSON OF THE GODHEAD? You will get what Ellen G White really meant when she used the third person.

[@canadiancontrarian3668]

And why not read the paragraph in full? Sister White then plainly elucidates who this third person is... As recorded 'Christ has given HIS spirit as the divine power to overcome all hereditary and cultivated tendencies to evil, and to impress His character upon His church.' D of A page 671 [same paragraph] Amen?

[@CarnivoreKen]

Also notice that if Jesus is divine, then his perfect sinless life means absolutely nothing to humanity, as divinity cannot sin, therefore his life would prove NOTHING.

[@BEvans7]

Jesus said that hated me and they will hate you. The truth is not popular with those who operate by their own lusts.

[@mateodemus1431]

Regarding the reformation, and the reform, they accused the church as being Babylon, away from the original doctrine that the Catholic church is the Babylon, apostacy is here, we believed that the Holy Spirit had equal persona with the Father and the Son, the Bible is clearly mentioned Baptize them in the name of the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit, YOUR DOCTRINE IS TWONITY, "IF YOU DENY THE HOLY SPIRIT, IT IS A SIN AGAINST HIM THAT HAS NO FORGIVENESS."

[@TheHolisticWealthClub]

no one is denying the Holy Spirit! saying a comment like that shows that you did not watch the video with a willingness to understand.

[@pioneeringagain1844]

We don't deny the Holy Spirit. We believe what the Bible teaches on this subject. Please watch our 3-Part series on our channel entitled: WHO IS THE HOLY SPIRIT?

[@chitambishonga8236]

No no no this man is in error, God is one (the father, the son, and the holy spirit.) They are one in character.

[@chitambishonga8236]

This one want to consider Jesus has not God be careful.

[@pioneeringagain1844]

Please search the Scriptures VERY CAREFULLY to see if those things are so.

[@gleitma]

EGW was very clear about the Holy Spirit: refer to the Office of the Holy Spirit, the heavenly trio, Third person of the Godhead. SDAs do not believe in the Godhead as do the Catholics. There are not three Gods but one God in three distinct persons with. With very different roles and tasks. We are told in the last days errors would come in to disregard the sanctuary truth and the personality of God. This video is a distortion of what the church believed and what was finally believed as truth after much study and prayer . The early pioneers were not all in agreement. It took time to work through the differences . Uh

[@RINAKEYSER]

Can anyone tell me who the author of this video is? His name?

[@pioneeringagain1844]

Hello, Why would you like the person name?

[@RINAKEYSER]

​@@pioneeringagain1844well..... If there is nothing to hide, it should've been revealed at the start of the video, but it wasn't. I'd like to know who I'm listening to, wouldn't you?

[@sirstp]

@@RINAKEYSER The focus should never be on the messenger, but the message itself. The person's identity should be of no importance. This way all the glory of the truth can go to God the Father.

[@EricHort-cx1jp]

EGW has mentioned the Three Members of the Godhead even though she did not call them the Trinity. 2Cor 3,17,18 ( margin) says the Lord the Spirit . Please read John 16 :5-15 the Spirit is called HE NOT IT Who jesus said He would send when He went back to heaven. HE will show us what Jesus wantsvus to know not what He wants to. The word one can have more than one meanings in the Hebrew. ONE God is diferent to the number one. God rhe Father was not the Creator . John 1 :1-3 says Jesusvdid the creating . Our fundamentals today are correct according to the Bible . The pioneers did not allways get it right We must acept new truth as it comes to us as long as it does not contradict old truth. ONE God means plural not singular according to the Hebrews .

[@TheHolisticWealthClub]

wow your comments prove to me that indeed Ellen White is a prophet! i'm genuinely going to pray for people like you. Can I request you watch this video again please, there are some vital things you missed.

[@EricHort-cx1jp]

Holistic HealthbClub . I am not sure whether you believe in the Holy Spirit as part of the Godbhead. This is what I was trying to show that HE was the third member of the Godhead not so much that EGW was a prophet . I was trying to show that the " word one" can have more than one meaning in the Hebrew language. One God has the same meaning as Adam and Eve became one as is one people etc. God is referred to as plural not singular. People are making God the Father God but not the Son or the Holy Spirit. These three persons of the Godhead are all through the New Testament especially in the Book of Acts.

[@EricHort-cx1jp]

What EGW believe as there was only one God foes not contradict her saying there were three members of the Godhead in the light of the Hebrew language .. Ther is no change in the fundamentals Please read SW Nov 28 1905. Regard the giving of the Holy Ghost to the disciples.

[@marjoriefortney1136]

1John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in Heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. KJV Jesus said the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost would not be forgiven. Since blasphemy is total disrespect for God, then Jesus was saying clearly that the HolyGhostis God.

[@pioneeringagain1844]

Please watch our video on our channel entitled: UNDERSTANDING THE UNHOLY TRINITY 1ST JOHN 5:7 that explains this verse clearly.

[@davidmoorman7062]

Just another ecumenical church.

[@HendryHede-px7fd]

What will happen if sda church do away with the holy spirit?

[@AbieSmith]

Those who doing away with the Holy Spirig will be sifted out . They would be removed but they would claim they are being persecuted by teaching truth . Very sad .

[@TheHolisticWealthClub]

No one is doing away with the Holy Spirit. I think you missed the point of the video. Please watch it again.

[@TheHolisticWealthClub]

rather those that don't keep the first commandment will be sifted out because they don't know who God is and will accept the false revival that the devil will do via the trinity doctrine. Please watch more of the videos on this channel. @@AbieSmith

[@timelesskoontah]

There are only two churches....the true and the false ....period...adventism and Catholicism...

[@lgrh2011]

The trinity that the pioneers rejected is the three-in-one doctrine which teaches that there are three beings in one person or one person with three beings. The three-in-one doctrine has been perpetrated by the RC, a false teaching, was rejected by the SDA pioneers. "It is consistently assumed that the Three Personq Godhead is the same as the three-in-one Trinity error. The fact that both the the Bible and the Spirit of Prophecy solidly teach the Godhead truth is ignored. Instead of candidly admitting that our pioneers were actually opposing the three-in-one and one-in-three Trinity foolishness, the suggestion is made that we were opposed to the Godhead." The Holy Scripture and SOP teach that there are Three Persons of the Godhead: Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. Desire of Ages 671, 388, 827: the Holy Spirit is the Third Person of the Godhead. Sin can only be resisted and overcome through the mighty agency of the Third Person of the Godhead. The RCChurch teaches the Trinity error and we don't want to have anything to do with catholic teachings. Instead let us proclaim the absolute truth: the Three Persons of the Godhead: Father, Son and Holy Ghost 🙏🙏🙏 They are one in purpose, mind and character but not in person. Shalom.🙏 God bless all ❤❤❤ !

[@pioneeringagain1844]

Please do your research again. Please watch our video on our channel entitled: WHO IS THE THIRD PERSON OF THE GODHEAD? You will see why Ellen White used the phrase "Third Person"

[@rickhuntling7338]

by the Torah law it is impossible for the day of atonement to be later than Oct. 15th. 1844 the Day of atonement was on Sept. 23rd. Nisan 14th 454 BC a blood moon Tetrad the sigh in the heavens for Israel was over Jerusalem and Nehemiah in Babylon: See; NASA 5 millennium Lunar Eclipses 453 BC. Nisan 14th 454 BC at the 9th hour Artaxerxes issued permission for Nehemiah to return to Jerusalem and begin repairing the streets and wall beginning the 69 weeks prophecy in Dan. 9:26. Nisan 14th on a Wednesday\Thursday Passover Aka "midst of the week" at the 9th hour 31 AD Messiah is cut off. Second blood moon was on the Feast of Trumpets 1st day of the 7th month 454 BC in YHWH's calendar beginning Ezek. 4:1-5 390 years prophecy. 63 BC Pompey lay a "iron pan" siege on Jerusalem. (iron the symbol for Rome). 31 AD began Ezek. 4:6,7 40 years of the abominations of the Judah's continuing to make sin sacrifices after JESUS said "it is finished". Note the arm revealed is the same arm revealed in Isa. 53:1 who prophesy against Jerusalem "your house made desolate" & "no stone not thrown down". SDA need 457 BC to 1844. The 483 years is to Messiah cut off not Baptized. SDA say the decree was issued in Ezra which mentions nothing about streets and walls. Steven's death can't be calculated from scripture and no way is it a confirmation of the New Everlasting Covenant with the "many". Dan. 9:27 was Pasion Week and CHRIST confirmed the New Everlasting Covenant by the "sure mercies of David" Resurrection SUNDAY, HE being our First Fruits of the Resurrection. You see martin I have put in the time and the study to learn the truth, dates and WORD YHWH's Glory on the 1st Day, the LORD's Day of a new heaven and earth. Nothing happened in 1844 but a "Great Disappointment".

[@johngaturu-tw1tb]

Before you end your session, you should know that you are the group that is looking for a new organisation. About the Holy Spirit read Desire of Ages page 671 and see what EGW calls 'The personality of The Third Person of the God Head'.

[@canadiancontrarian3668]

Yes Desire of Ages page 671. In the very same paragraph of 'the third person of the Godhead' is 'Christ has given HIS Spirit as the divine power to overcome'... Can you explain this?

[@lylepollett2234]

I'm a retired Evangelist. I am so sorry to see groups like yours mis-quote and mis-use both the Bible and the writings of Ellen White. She called the Holy Spirit the "third person of the Godhead" in the book Desire of Ages. (pg 670, 671) You need to quit doing what you are accusing the church of doing. The reason the devil set up a counterfeit trinity of Nimrod, Simiramus and Tammuz, is because there is a true triune God. The devil always has a counterfeit substitute for the truth. Stop being used by the devil to further his agenda.

[@pioneeringagain1844]

Thank you for your comment. I would STRONGLY encourage you to watch our video on our channel entitled: WHO IS THE THIRD PERSON OF THE GODHEAD?

[@chitambishonga8236]

This one is Jehovah's witness not true SDA

[@charlesingels2058]

The sad church didn't come into existence until after 1844. The great disappointment was the millerites. Get your history correct.

[@pioneeringagain1844]

Thank you for your comment. Just for clarification they were also called Advent believers because they believed that Christ was coming. This is also verified in history.