I think it would have been so much better to print the actual cards with actual effects (they really are not that complex) and add a line on the rulebook : "Feel free to play your first games without concern about the effects and progressively include them to get the full experience of Vanguard step by step !" or something catchy like this, kind of how they did with the Lianorn / Youthberk / Jeweled trial decks. Also, because it needs to be said, I wouldn't have cared half as much if the product was 5$ (which is what 700 yens is) but the English version is 20$ instead. This + the product being mendatory to play in Standard feels like huge cash grab.
@tagschmidt125911 ай бұрын
The first three D trial decks had vanilla and non-vanilla copies (In power up pack) which is good. This is just a blatant scam making you buy a common set from the booster to have skill copies
@nmr720311 ай бұрын
I said this. Every game used to do this. Even Yugioh.
@tagschmidt125911 ай бұрын
Yugioh had power up packs; Which enhanced the deck itself and had cards that are not really in the deck (thus an actual sideboard or something. The cards look like good deck pieces) . Whilst VG had literal vanilla copies of the card and had the effect retrain on the power up pack (just a few new cards and that's it, oh and the foil and OT)
@Shadowmoneywiza11 ай бұрын
Due note this Thursday or Tuesday were getting RR support cards for these start deck that are relative to the vanilla grade 3 card.
@natanaelloris687711 ай бұрын
it's a bit ironic that they charged money for this, imagine bringing your friend to play vanguard and saying "if you want to learn playing you need to buy this deck that you would play a couple times and then throw away"
@jasong.399111 ай бұрын
More like oh you wnt to start heres 700 yen just to buy 4 main boss cards and the triggers. Now spend 1000 more for the pgs and some rares
@MaskedPlayer51411 ай бұрын
You can also tell your friend they are required to buy it because they will not be allowed to play in tournaments with the energy crest contained solely within this product
@tagschmidt125911 ай бұрын
That's why English version threw in a deck box packaging and 55 Sleeves changing the name to "Quick Trial Deck" 🤡
@LittIeClank11 ай бұрын
I'm going to keep my fingers crossed that they don't put the numbers on the english version cause otherwise I am definitely buying two of lyrical and keter for a clean playset of those triggers and bosses
@kasureashtadoke160411 ай бұрын
Wait, you can't use the numbered ones in official fights?
@LittIeClank11 ай бұрын
@@kasureashtadoke1604you can just aesthetically I want clean ones
@StephSkysinger11 ай бұрын
@@kasureashtadoke1604 They just meant they want to play with 4 copies of the card without the numbers printed on them. Same for me, I'd rather play with 4 "clean" ones too. Though for starting players it's useful to learn the game, I'd suppose! :)
@tagschmidt125911 ай бұрын
Nope it's just a port with sleeves and a deck box packaging
@White48gamer11 ай бұрын
Well this video made it simpler for me to decide. Thanks for the help Different Fight
@AcePlaysTCGs11 ай бұрын
I've tried teaching the game to at least one person and they thought the game was complicated. I'm thinking about buying one for a friend if he wants to learn just to see if it helps. I'm not big on the vanillas & numbers, but it is cool that if you lay them out in a row, you can follow along the video and basically learn the deck. Also it lets them do 1 video without having to change them that much if at all for each nation. I'm on the fence between buying one and just getting a crest and counter, but I might scoop it for the new trigger art as well as the crest and counter lol
@lakkycharms3 ай бұрын
Honestly the best way to learn is to watch the anime imo
@blaster_kael744111 ай бұрын
I am very excited for theese in english! They're perfect for teaching to beginners I think (I tried with regular decks and the other ppl kept getting confused or frustrated😅)
@EKo_CVZ11 ай бұрын
honestly im looking forward to the energy crest more than the decks themselves since we unfortunately have to spend almost double on each due to sleeves but bring on set 1, I want Akira to have Tanryu Light's Acoustic TCG protagonists energy and I will be very happy with DZ
@Meijinsang11 ай бұрын
Thank you for your channel now my cardfight vanguard addiction has come back!
@voltagewolf122211 ай бұрын
Ya know I wonder how cool it would be to play a Dungeons and Dragons Campaign in the world of Cray
@GalaxyVoid_Dragon11 ай бұрын
That would be interesting❤🔥
@zygarlio988510 ай бұрын
Im excited to finally start my vanguard experience with these decks
@IamtheEkco11 ай бұрын
the lyrical front is rad
@Midnightblue28711 ай бұрын
My favorite is the Keter, Stoicheia, and Dragon Empire trial decks because of the amazing artwork bosses. Hopefully they'll add more effect cards and have triple rares back in the near future.
@TheEnd-rivive11 ай бұрын
Wow bavsargra playmat
@RedFlameKnight11 ай бұрын
That’s awesome! I definitely want these
@JDNCLOWD8 ай бұрын
Vanguard has my respect. Out of all card games I've tried it's the only one I've found where you can get a starter deck and play well you can win vs a built deck. It takes a lot of RNG but it's doable
@SetSailTCGQueen11 ай бұрын
Great video. I like the lyrical monestario deck the best.
@SomeAnimeGeek11 ай бұрын
Great video but I gotta know where can I get myself one of those bavs playmats 😭🙏
@fishingszn189211 ай бұрын
i still cant stop thinking the lyrical pg is running away from an explosion its so funny to me
@xroshe4rt11 ай бұрын
When even the MC says “I wanna use skills” you know these decks are a scam
@timwalker51011 ай бұрын
Welcome to the digimon card game
@christopherbennett585811 ай бұрын
The difference being that Digimon usually gives the person who bought the starter deck good stuff.
@krampusapprenticeofdarksan787011 ай бұрын
Wait I thought they came with a deckbox and sleeves or is that for the English version only?
@kaiernvg446011 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same
@IsaiahShadow11 ай бұрын
English
@domd678911 ай бұрын
It’s English exclusive, so they can justify up charging them to 20 bucks instead of iust 7 or whatever the JP cost.
@cxncxrtmxstxr11 ай бұрын
Yes
@krampusapprenticeofdarksan787011 ай бұрын
@@domd6789 I hope someone sells the decks themselves with everything BUT the deck box and sleeves at a lower price.
@philipchau26210 ай бұрын
I really love lyrical designs so much the ride line look like and idol slowly training and become a top idol kinda give me love live/ idolmaster vibes i think my ride line once a get the quick start lyrical deck will be kairi Ride line i can call as rest help me set up field and g2 allow me to bounce any unit back to hand
@ShadowBlade_Destiny11 ай бұрын
Its a little bit sad that the G3 are common, but I understand that they want to teach other that is interest to begin Vanguard 😝
@dougggthegoof11 ай бұрын
Okay I'll come clean. I've been pretty on the fence about getting into Vanguard since Overdress. More like I've just been procrastinating to take the plunge. Not that it did anything wrong, it was just... Different... Plus I figured I wouldn't have anyone to play with. But with something like this that doesn't have the effects, it's not really a plunge. It's more like just playing in shallow water. Players have to be able to mess around the effects so they can learn when and how to use them. But I guess that's exactly why it's built that way. Maybe these decks are literal Trial Decks to where you mess around with the very basics then if you want to continue to, let's face it, buy more Vanguard product, you can.
@funny4urface10111 ай бұрын
I'm liking Dark States because of the boss unit but also feeling Lyrical to try something new. Can't decide which to get or how to build uo Lyrical if I do go with it.
@t.k.touchdown605011 ай бұрын
Quick question regarding some of the rulings in these new cards. For the new main Grade 3 vanguard, the skill: [ACT](VC)1/Turn:COST [Counter Blast (1)], search your deck for up to one card with the same card name as this unit, reveal it and put it into hand, shuffle the deck, and this unit gets [Power]+10000 until end of turn. If I’m not mistaken, I believe the cost is 1 CB, but do I actually have to physically be able to search and put 1 card with the same name into hand for the +10k power to resolve, or is it just 1 CB for the ability to search (regardless whether there’s another copy left in the deck, since the text says “up to 1”) and still +10k power anyway? Thanks in advance.
@phillipr.903810 ай бұрын
Based on the wording, you still get the 10k for the ACT skill regardless if you searched out a persona ride. If the skill was worded like “if you searched …., then give your VG 10k,” then you’d have to find a persona ride to give your VG the power.
@azimanmasria466111 ай бұрын
So, i just saw the cards for the new boosters. Some of them are the same cards as the starter decks, but they have skills. So does that mean some of our starter decks have skills, or only the one from the boosters have skills
@minisaurproductionsaayanha689411 ай бұрын
i will probably buy the keter and dark states ones to get the triggers, but I love all the new PGs especially the dragon empire one, I wonder what the sleeves for english will be like, its a shame that these will be the only way to get the energy stuff for a while
@velar2511 ай бұрын
Don't worry about your negativity, this product is just that bad.
@skhyz17210 ай бұрын
When will the english version of these get a release?
@geraldjamesguballa969011 ай бұрын
Which are better? Start Decks way back 2021 (Overdress Era) or this (2024 Divine Z Era)
@windwaker0rules8 ай бұрын
The free demo deck is better
@huynghiepduАй бұрын
Overdress. I mean they had foiled Card and The Bruce deck is also meta
@johanneskaramossov510311 ай бұрын
What i like that they are very good for starting, those numbers dont annoy me and if they are effectless for the most part the decks are the decks are propably very balanced olthough very simple. I look forward to getting a few of those in english language and just using them as is... no local vanguard community so basically every game i get is a teaching Game. No effects helps with not overloading new players i think. Will def . Pick up the keter sanctuary and the Brandt gate one .. is Magallanica not that much supported? Trying to get back in after playing in the first 2 sets of Vanguard so most of my old collection of the Initial release, wich makes them now all premium cards And I liked the Granblue from back then.. so i was asking myself wether they are still actively supported in standard.
@UsagiYiisan11 ай бұрын
@17:56 gae bolg is that you?????? 👀👀👀
@IamtheEkco11 ай бұрын
teh stoichea draw reminds me of the game bastion
@LeviathanCove11 ай бұрын
Well there's clearly some cool things about these, guess its good they should be simple for teaching. But yeah the boss grade 3 should at least be foil.
@haztags683111 ай бұрын
Wait so is it confirmed dat some of de vanilla cards hv effects? And if they do get effects, can i still activate their effects if i use de starter deck version? Asking to find out if the starter decks truly hv value outside of elementaria.🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
@DifferentFight11 ай бұрын
Those are just reminder text on what the trigger does
@Bigbear11311 ай бұрын
Need More Shaman King!!!
@gamershideout89-ke2vn11 ай бұрын
Are the English cards released?
@dylmxwell11 ай бұрын
As a beginner, which deck have a good set of cards ?
@GraciousKnight9911 ай бұрын
I would say go for the one that suits your taste and start with that
@ralfsstuff11 ай бұрын
why not just make a td, play without effects and go on from there? It's a shame, even more so after overdress' starters. 5 bucks and a great base to build on for every nation (minus LM)
@tagschmidt125911 ай бұрын
That was what the D-TD series was for.
@ralfsstuff11 ай бұрын
@@tagschmidt1259 they were really great decks, period. Consistent, flavourful and easy to learn without relying on so many vanillas. And cheap enough to sample every nation for less than 25 bucks.
@tagschmidt125911 ай бұрын
And now we got 20 bucks with sleeves and stuff that was on the JP version of D-TDs. Which is disappointing cause they gave us a deck full of vanillas prompting you to buy someone else's bulk set
@GraciousKnight9911 ай бұрын
So for the sleeve and deck box we are gonna to get those in En?
@DifferentFight11 ай бұрын
Yeah JP was never getting those
@GraciousKnight9911 ай бұрын
@@DifferentFight but I appreciate the fact that we here In Singapore are getting all the Japanese products here unlike the US which is super rare to get
@Stujieee9611 ай бұрын
Really wish they remove the numbers, it got me really irked even if it's just for vanilla card
@Br0oham11 ай бұрын
Can't wait for these to be 23 dollars each in Australia
@Kenny-md2zf11 ай бұрын
Here in Singapore the shops are selling them for SGD 8. Hope the distributor don’t jack up the prizes there
@pepsy91011 ай бұрын
tbh I'm really disappointed that they're mostly vanilla :(
@randx107511 ай бұрын
tbf, they are getting their skills in the set
@marctan908711 ай бұрын
still a stupid product
@pepsy91011 ай бұрын
@@randx1075 yeah I was happy at first cause a nova esque deck finally gets a "trial" deck but it's so useless 😭
@MaskedPlayer51411 ай бұрын
why couldn't they be in the product themself? there is no to be fair here this is stupid
@krampusapprenticeofdarksan787011 ай бұрын
@@MaskedPlayer514 Because apparently kids hate reading and like pretty cards without effects. Meanwhile Yugioh Rush Duels have both and are succeeding.
@kjbahotae11 ай бұрын
When does the English set come out?
@lryuzaki906411 ай бұрын
April
@ippoverse11 ай бұрын
How many life points do you start out with? In Yugioh it’s 8,000
@lryuzaki906411 ай бұрын
I would recommend a beginner guide video if you want to try it cause this game plays nothing like Yugioh you start with 0 damage and the first person to reach 6 damage loses
@django00811 ай бұрын
on and off with vanguard, this might bring me back in to play rather than just collect
@alandubois15911 ай бұрын
Ok. So hear me out. Im going to assume that shops will just sell the energy generator and the actual energy counters. So i feel no particular need to buy the actual decks.
@chrisl814411 ай бұрын
Drop the mat seller plz...
@gotenkoost11 ай бұрын
Should i get multiple copy of this product?
@lryuzaki906411 ай бұрын
No
@Astral_Shard11 ай бұрын
Yugioh🤝Vanguard Releasing Subpar products to "introduce" the game to a beginner (Cool Bavsagra Playmat doe, where can that be bought 😅)
@lakkycharms11 ай бұрын
nahh the jack atlas deck and the fire king deck are way better than this at least the cards have effects and there's like synchros n boss monsters
@tagschmidt125911 ай бұрын
The Jack Atlas deck is comparable to the Stand up deckset (even the stride deckset)
@megalopainskin11 ай бұрын
Yugioh structures are cheaper and better in every way
@tagschmidt125911 ай бұрын
Because Yugioh structures don't include a short storage box and Acrylic counters (or sleeves and deckbox). Vanguard has something "premium" in it but still somewhat trash
@AbdullahAshfaqthgreen11 ай бұрын
When will they release in English can someone please answer
@phillipr.903811 ай бұрын
Mid-April
@GraciousKnight9911 ай бұрын
April 19 to be exact
@SirDuckyTheLazy11 ай бұрын
No OT?
@RuneRaged11 ай бұрын
In all honesty, I'm alright with these in particular being as vanilla as they are Kinda like dumbed down versions of the Stand Up Decks (sort of) I'll probably end up picking up all 6 just to say i have them and go from there
@EmeraldAce1311 ай бұрын
How much are these gonna be in English?
@lryuzaki906411 ай бұрын
20
@EmeraldAce1311 ай бұрын
@@lryuzaki9064 $20 without foils?
@lryuzaki906411 ай бұрын
@@EmeraldAce13yea sadly they’re so expensive in English cause they added sleeves
@Dizaster19958 ай бұрын
The problems with the start decks 1- in my opinion its overpriced for how many vanilla cards its running 2- they should have added a promo pack including the actual skilled cards like they did with youthberk, drajeweled, and lianorn 3- it feels like the tutorial is very incomplete, since there is no over trigger, and they did not cover persona rides 4- bushiroad felt very wishy washy, like give everything no skills. Except the vanguard lets give them a skill that our tutorial never covers
@IsaiahShadow11 ай бұрын
Brandt most because the boss unit mach
@YV1111011 ай бұрын
Agree
@soggycookiecrumbs606511 ай бұрын
Bavsagara at the background is kinda distracting
@rise1above11 ай бұрын
its 20 dollars here preorder. nah im getting the $40 decksets
@zero-yb2rm10 ай бұрын
Why do you get everything in Japanese? Can you read the language or?
@DifferentFight10 ай бұрын
Yes, and I live here in Japan.
@allen2reckless67611 ай бұрын
Idk why they force us to get the energy crest when most decks as of rn don’t use energy. The only ones that use it is the newer decks and u don’t even need to use the energy support cards in the deck. They just want us to buy this generic ass start deck cuz they know they fucked it up and knows no one wants to buy. What’s also funny is they gave us effect triggers but like not really cuz they have numbers. They then give us 1 effect trigger without a number random of 3 triggers so u have to buy 12 of these to get a play set of the effect trigger no? They could have just made the decks like the old ones with effects
@anthonythomas30511 ай бұрын
These boxes are so small
@tagschmidt125911 ай бұрын
I really wouldn't buy if Cristianos' Art wasn't juicy enough.
@truesdale738811 ай бұрын
They look so tiny 😂🤣😂
@murfolk624611 ай бұрын
🦐
@Oasis-xg8sg11 ай бұрын
Im still sad. Christianos is bad. . . . . . .😢😢😢😢 That bavsargra playmat tho
@krampusapprenticeofdarksan787011 ай бұрын
He's bad but if you add cards that rely on persona riding like Tide line he can be a threat. Not to mention if you revive Prevailing Dragon and Nectar of sensationalism, its basically an infinite loop. (Prevailing basically destroys itself to get an order from drop after it attacks and Nectar gives +5k for each 5 cards in drop and +1 crit if 15 or more cards in drop). He is more of a early game guarding deck but yeah he is weak against heavy hitting multi attack decks.
@laurenceteichroeb309511 ай бұрын
The energy card looks like the Digimon TCG Memory counter. Don't get me wrong, love that we have a new mechanic to the game, but to copy a mechanic from another game.... 🫤
@SevensDran11 ай бұрын
It is literally not the same mechanic as digimon just cause of the 10 counter. It has more in common with battle spirits cores, but not really cause it's just another limited resource of the same design as counter and soul, just not based on cards