The Verse I Never Saw - Marcus Grodi - Deep in History

In this talk from our 2009 Deep in History Conference, Coming Home Network founder and president Marcus Grodi looks at the question of Christian authority. Who has the right to teach and interpret Scripture? Who gets to say what the Bible really means, especially in regard to its more challenging passages? Marcus looks at the question of Christian authority in light of I Timothy 3:14-15, where St. Paul refers to the Church as the "pillar and bulwark of the truth," and asks the hard question that every Christian must ask: How do I know if my take on Scripture is the right one?

[@tinaludlow9767]

Thank you Marcus, I love watching your program Journey Home. God bless 🙏🙏🙏

[@cominghomenetwork]

Thank you for your kind words!

[@ellibreelmundo2629]

I'm very impressed by this man's testimony. Pray that someday I will complete catechism and bring my family into the Church.

[@tylerkessler4021]

How has it been ? I’m a catechumen right now wanting to bring my family in. Love and prayers for you ❤️🕊️

[@JDvorak2009]

Also, as in the creed, the Church is One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic! Praise God!

[@athonyhiggins3117]

It is always scripture

[@athonyhiggins3117]

The early church looked and expected the return of jesus Christ.the Catholic church does not hardly mention this .catholicism is not the early church how can it be

[@ramonmoreno5487]

@@athonyhiggins3117 nah the church mentions it everyday at mass.

[@lynnebyron7169]

​@Athony Higgins we wait in joyful hope for the (second ) coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. We say this at every mass. That is not hardly

[@tylerkessler4021]

@@athonyhiggins3117beyond foolish . Prayers for you. Have you ever even attended a mass ? We boldly proclaim Jesus victory over death and we look forward to His return everyday. Come Lord Jesus come .

[@ambu6478]

Thank you Marcus. You are one reason I felt like the Catholic Church was the Way. It was a leading from God that guided my path , and He used awesome people like you and Mother Angelica, Scott Hahn, Father Mitch and others to inspire me along the way. Thanks again!

[@athonyhiggins3117]

,if they speak not according to my word there is no light in them.

[@onlylove556]

Amen to that. As a protestant I to saw the problem with protestantism, & why do protestant churches say every diff denomination is the same in beliefs, that they all believe in the same essentials, & believe in Jesus Christ as r saviour, & not Mary. but that's not true @all, they don't believe on the essentials of the faith, and they all teach a diff gospel. then they all use the same verse for their church, that if anybody teaches a diff gospel let him be accursed. I grew up a Protestant, and i still am technically, bc I'm not baptized in the Catholic Church yet, but I remember one day my father told me you know who teaches the true gospel, it is the Baptist Church, and I looked at him and I said yeah but which Baptist Church Dad, and he just stayed quiet, and couldn't answer me. So i started listening to Catholicism, on how they interpret scriptures, I realized that it's not that people don't read the Bible, is that they all have a diff interpretation of the Bible, that's the problem. plus they cant see that the church proceeds the New Testament scriptures, so the church was built first, and then the New Testament scriptures were written second, so sola scriptura is a self refuting argument. Lord bless u 💯🙏🏼

[@luishenriquedesantana3589]

Mr Grodi is such a humble man. May God bless him for serving the Church.

[@franklinhung6817]

Thank you, Marcus. I don’t know why I am only now coming to know about this talk. I watch you regularly on EWTN on demand and have been looking for how better to defend the authenticity of the Church. This talk 13 years later is still very relevant, indeed more relevant!! Thank you, thank you, Lord Jesus. Deacon Frank

[@laydownlays]

I think a large part of the confusion came about because in the Bible, we used poetry to describe a scene that was not spoken as a poem. Jesus did not say, " though art Peter and upon this rock I will build my church".... What he said in aramaic was..."turning to Simon, Jesus said, Simon, you are the Rock and on you, The Rock, I will build my Church..." It's a much stronger statement when translated fully into English, without the Latin and Greek. After all, Saint Peter translated into English means..."Holy Rock"....or in better English .." The Holy Rock"

[@thecatholicrabbi4170]

Lepanto Victory You have expanded my knowledge. Thank you!

[@adamhovey407]

I like how it says it in French, it reads "Tu est Pierre, et que sur cette pierre je bâtirai mon Église", in French, the name Pierre is masculine, and the word to mean rock is feminine. In French, it says "Thou art rock, and on this rock, I will build (futur simple) my Church. According to word reference, when pierre is used to mean rock, it can mean large rock, so, you don't really have the arguments in French you do in English. The version of the Bible I used for that is La Bible de Jérusalem.

[@athonyhiggins3117]

Not true

[@robertdelutri8589]

@@athonyhiggins3117 It most certainly is true!

[@petitchenil]

Very good, sent this to a family member that is trying to "understand it all" but little nervous of me now being a catholic having converted - evolved - from jewish. But what you said is what help me select the Catholic church after reading the bible and feeling I could not stay a jew but needed to change to "something" else. After much searching the authority part is what got me.

[@marylebold4832]

BrokenRuleII thank

[@bradleesargent]

There's a Catholic KZbinr's group on facebook in case you are interested. Welcome home!!!

[@thecatholicrabbi4170]

Welcome home brother, we also have a section of Catholics called the Hebrew Catholics

[@lucymarion2945]

Welcome home! You might also want to read into Mother Miriam's story, if you haven't heard of her already. She was born and raised Jewish, now a Catholic Nun. She has a radio show called Heart to Heart with Mother Miriam on Station of the Cross Catholic channel. chnetwork.org/story/sr-rosalind-moss-a-journey-home/

[@ritamary6565]

So nice to see you making the sign of the cross. We Catholics always begin our day with the sign of the cross 🙂

[@josegonzalez2367]

God bless you Marcus... it is so amazing to listen to you and Scott hanh and many other convert to the Catholic Church God bless you all..

[@athonyhiggins3117]

But what is there to say that Catholic traditions are correct

[@brucebarber4104]

Jose Gonzalez🎯

[@pop6997]

Powerful ❤ Thank you!

[@johns.9659]

Very good talk, thanks for sharing.

[@elkarate007]

The lord used Marcus and the journey home to open my 👀 and brought me back to the catholic church💒and a great love for our lady of Guadalupe🥰 boy was i lost going to protestant churches😵😭☹God bless this man❤🙏🙏thank you brother☺️

[@athonyhiggins3117]

No such thing Mary is not the Queen of heaven.nit supported in the bible regards anthony

[@robertdelutri8589]

@@athonyhiggins3117 As Jesus Christ is King, His mother, aka FULL of Grace, is the Queen Mother. At the Wedding Feast at Cana Jesus performs His first public miracle in deference to His mother, so powerful is her intercession...

[@athonyhiggins3117]

@@robertdelutri8589 this must be read in its proper context

[@brucebarber4104]

@@robertdelutri8589 🎯

[@MultiHannahMaria]

Thank you God for Marcus Grodi, Scott Hahn, Kenneth, and all the former preachers for bringing them home with their preaching experience, so that they can share their journey with us and teach us about the Catholic Church. Amen. As a cradle Catholic I just trust everything the church teaches but when I'm challenged by other faith I feel suffocated because I don't know how to defend my faith. These theologians are what we need as laymen of the church.

[@guidofawkes8676]

Very impressive Marcus

[@pavelrazamazov2672]

Brilliant

[@feaokautai7354]

Praise God for your inspirational faith love and hope in TRUTH JESUS CHRIST the ROOT of our Roman Catholic CHURCH.

[@danp.torreja2777]

" Go to the world and preach the gospel baptising them in name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit."- The Catholic( universal) church did this from the time of apostolic fathers 2,000 years ago pass on without ceasing until this very moment and you Brod Marcus was one of them...

[@kellyedington8716]

I liked the video within the first few minutes, and later when he asked how many of you have heard Scott Hahn's conversion tape I caught myself trying to click the like button again lol 😅 ✌️❤️‍🔥✝️

[@DaVinci3333]

2 Thessalonians 2:14 [14]And so, brothers, stand firm, and hold to the traditions that you have learned, whether by word or by our epistle.

[@DaVinci3333]

1 Timothy 4:14,16 [14]Do not be willing to neglect the grace that is within you, which was given to you through prophecy, with the imposition of the hands of the priesthood. [16]Pay attention to yourself and to doctrine. Pursue these things. For in doing so, you will save both yourself and those who listen to you.

[@bwoutchannel6356]

Very interesting in that all so recently i , on occasion, find myself looking around discreetly to see the faces of believers speaking the words of faith be it the Apostles Creed or other parts of the sacred mass. I do it to in a sense help sustain my own faith & belief in that seeing others that I am not alone but with Christ in communion with the family of God.

[@Dipakmakwana7290]

Thanks for this video, I left the Catholic Church in January 2023 and joined the Protestant Church because I thought idols were worshiped in the Catholic Church but I did not know the history of Catholicism. I watched a video in which there is a lot of history of the Catholic Church. It is old and true and the first Church Fathers are the first Pope, now after watching this video it is Saturday that from tomorrow I will go to my Catholic Church the first Pope is from Peter and the one and only true Church which Lord Jesus built on the rock of Peter. thanks so much this video God bless you

[@MBFModernHomesteading]

Great talk. The only thing I would say is that the Holy Spirit had a part in all of the above, however, I understand what you were getting at, although, some may not. God Bless.

[@athonyhiggins3117]

The holy spirit will only confirm the written word all scripture is god breathed the above sadly not true Anthony

[@robertdelutri8589]

@@athonyhiggins3117 Yes, and the Catholic Church decided what was "God-breathed" and therefore decided on what was canonical...

[@athonyhiggins3117]

@@robertdelutri8589 With respect that is not completely true.

[@brucebarber4104]

@@robertdelutri8589 🎯

[@IulioFulu-on4mk]

Don't deny the truth cos hunt you forever...

[@einsigne]

Great.

[@user-cr5dm7uk4t]

Amen

[@DaVinci3333]

Ephesians 4:5,14 [5]one Lord, one faith, one baptism, [14]So may we then no longer be little children, disturbed and carried about by every wind of doctrine, by the wickedness of men, and by the craftiness which deceives unto error.

[@aubreybryce5751]

Wow!!!!

[@DaVinci3333]

1 Corinthians 11:2,16,18-19 [2]Now I praise you, brothers, because you are mindful of me in everything, in such a way as to hold to my precepts as I have handed them down to you. [16]But if anyone has a mind to be contentious, we have no such custom, nor does the Church of God. [18]First of all, indeed, I hear that when you assemble together in the church, there are schisms among you. And I believe this, in part. [19]For there must also be heresies, so that those who have been tested may be made manifest among you.

[@johnchung6777]

Great video Mr Grodi, I can understand of what you spoke about when you mentioned about when you played basketball for your Lutheran church in a religious basketball play offs between religious groups, then you mentioned that you had friends in different denominations playing for there groups.And as I reflect on what you’ve said it brought to my mind of what I’ve seen with numerous family members and friends who are in different denominations,and having said that it reminds me of what Jesus said to his Apostles after leaving the temple and Jesus said to his Apostles beware that you not be led astray for I say to you that many shall come teaching in my name saying I am he the Christ and teach many in my name and lead many astray do not follow them,and what a coincidence that in this present day and time look at the numerous different denominations that teach and preach about Jesus whooo weee there’s obviously a connection of Jesus had told his Apostles from so far back that seems fulfilled from centuries back?🤔

[@DaVinci3333]

John 16:7,12-13 [7]But I tell you the truth: it is expedient for you that I am going. For if I do not go, the Advocate will not come to you. But when I will have gone away, I will send him to you. [12]I still have many things to say to you, but you are not able to bear them now. [13]But when the Spirit of truth has arrived, he will teach the whole truth to you. For he will not be speaking from himself. Instead, whatever he will hear, he will speak. And he will announce to you the things that are to come.

[@DaVinci3333]

2 Timothy 4:3-4 [3]For there shall be a time when they will not endure sound doctrine, but instead, according to their own desires, they will gather to themselves teachers, with itching ears, [4]and certainly, they will turn their hearing away from the truth, and they will be turned toward fables.

[@edelynorias6325]

🙏

[@philmonk4159]

Although I hope to come to you soon, I am writing you these instructions so that, if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God’s household, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth. 1 Timothy 3:14-15

[@athonyhiggins3117]

This scripture must not be read in isolation.

[@brucebarber4104]

Phil Monk🎯

[@DaVinci3333]

Acts 14:22 [22]And when they had established PRIESTS for them IN EACH CHURCH, and had prayed with fasting, they commended them to the Lord, in whom they believed.

[@Snouckhurgronje]

1 Timothy 3:15! 🙌

[@jesusmariamuruagamarin9016]

Brillante, este asunto no va de mi sino de Dios nuestro señor. Menos yo y más El.

[@DaVinci3333]

Colossians 1:23-26 [23]So then, continue in the faith: well-founded and steadfast and immovable, by the hope of the Gospel that you have heard, which has been preached throughout all creation under heaven, the Gospel of which I, Paul, have become a minister. [24]For now I rejoice in my passion on your behalf, and I complete in my flesh the things that are lacking in the Passion of Christ, for the sake of his body, which is the Church. [25]For I have become a minister of the Church, according to the dispensation of God that has been given to me among you, so that I may fulfill the Word of God, [26]the mystery which had remained hidden to past ages and generations, but which now is manifested to his saints.

[@DaVinci3333]

John 15:26 [26]But when the Advocate has arrived, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, he will offer testimony about me.

[@gustavoguelfi8099]

Incredible! I was sure he was talking about the Church today! (@ 44:40)...

[@DaVinci3333]

Matthew 28:16,18-20 [16]Now the eleven disciples went on to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had appointed them. [18]And Jesus, drawing near, spoke to them, saying: "All authority has been given to me in heaven and on earth. [19]Therefore, go forth and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, [20]teaching them to observe all that I have ever commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, even to the consummation of the age."

[@DaVinci3333]

1 Timothy 5:17,19 [17]Let priests who lead well be held worthy of twice the honor, especially those who labor in the Word and in doctrine. [19]Do not be willing to accept an accusation against a priest, except under two or three witnesses.

[@DaVinci3333]

Romans 13:1-2 [1]Let every soul be subject to higher authorities. For there is no authority except from God and those who have been ordained by God. [2]And so, whoever resists authority, resists what has been ordained by God. And those who resist are acquiring damnation for themselves.

[@DaVinci3333]

Titus 1:5,7,9-10 [5]For this reason, I left you behind in Crete: so that those things which are lacking, you would correct, and so that you would ordain, throughout the communities, priests, (just as I also ordained you) [7]And a bishop, as a steward of God, must be without offense: not arrogant, not short-tempered, not a drunkard, not violent, not desiring tainted profit, [9]embracing faithful speech which is in agreement with doctrine, so that he may be able to exhort in sound doctrine and to argue against those who contradict. [10]For there are, indeed, many who are disobedient, who speak empty words, and who deceive, especially those who are of the circumcision.

[@DaVinci3333]

Ephesians 3:9-11 [9]and to enlighten everyone concerning the dispensation of the mystery, hidden before the ages in God who created all things, [10]so that the manifold wisdom of God may become well-known to the principalities and powers in the heavens, through the Church, [11]according to that timeless purpose, which he has formed in Christ Jesus our Lord.

[@DaVinci3333]

1 Corinthians 12:25,27-28 [25]so that there might be no schism in the body, but instead the parts themselves might take care of one another. [27]Now you are the body of Christ, and parts like any part. [28]And indeed, God has established a certain order in the Church: first Apostles, second Prophets, third Teachers, next miracle-workers, and then the grace of healing, of helping others, of governing, of different kinds of languages, and of the interpretation of words.

[@DaVinci3333]

Acts 15:41 [41]And he traveled through Syria and Cilicia, confirming the Churches, instructing them to keep the precepts of the Apostles and the elders.

[@DaVinci3333]

Acts 1:20,23,25 [20]For it has been written in the book of Psalms: 'Let their dwelling place be desolate and may there be no one who dwells within it,' and 'Let another take his episcopate.' [23]And they appointed two: Joseph, who was called Barsabbas, who was surnamed Justus, and Matthias. [25]to take a place in this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas prevaricated, so that he might go to his own place." Apostolic Succession

[@DaVinci3333]

Acts 20:27-30 [27]For I have not turned aside in the least from announcing every counsel of God to you. [28]Take care of yourselves and of the entire flock, over which the Holy Spirit has stationed you as Bishops to rule the Church of God, which he has purchased by his own blood. [29]I know that after my departure ravenous wolves will enter among you, not sparing the flock. [30]And from among yourselves, men will rise up, speaking perverse things in order to entice disciples after them.

[@DaVinci3333]

1 Timothy 4:1-3,14,16 [1]Now the Spirit has clearly said that, in the end times, some persons will depart from the faith, paying attention to spirits of error and the doctrines of devils, [2]speaking lies in hypocrisy, and having their consciences seared, [3]prohibiting marriage, abstaining from foods, which God has created to be accepted with thanksgiving by the faithful and by those who have understood the truth. [14]Do not be willing to neglect the grace that is within you, which was given to you through prophecy, with the imposition of the hands of the priesthood. [16]Pay attention to yourself and to doctrine. Pursue these things. For in doing so, you will save both yourself and those who listen to you.

[@DaVinci3333]

Mark 4:34 [34]But he did not speak to them without a parable. Yet separately, he explained all things to his disciples.

[@DaVinci3333]

John 14:26 [26]But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will suggest to you everything whatsoever that I have said to you.

[@DaVinci3333]

1 Corinthians 1:1-5 [1]Paul, called as an Apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God; and Sosthenes, a brother: [2]to the Church of God which is at Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints with all who are invoking the name of our Lord Jesus Christ in every place of theirs and of ours. [3]Grace and peace to you from God our Father and from the Lord Jesus Christ. [4]I give thanks to my God continuously for you because of the grace of God that has been given to you in Christ Jesus. [5]By that grace, in all things, you have become wealthy in him, in every word and in all knowledge.

[@DaVinci3333]

When you read the Bible with your own interpretation, claiming the Holy Spirit is guiding you...(that might not be the Holy Spirit but the Great Deceiver) 2 Peter 1:19-21 [19]And so, we have an even firmer prophetic word, to which you would do well to listen, as to a light shining within a dark place, until the day dawns, and the daystar rises, in your hearts. [20]Understand this first: that every prophecy of Scripture does not result from one's own interpretation. [21]For prophecy was not conveyed by human will at any time. Instead, holy men were speaking about God while inspired by the Holy Spirit.

[@DaVinci3333]

Matthew 16:18-19 [18]And I say to you, that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it. [19]And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatever you shall bind on earth shall be bound, even in heaven. And whatever you shall release on earth shall be released, even in heaven." Note: Jesus said to Simon earlier, in Aramic, his name would be Cephas which translated is Peter and means ROCK IN ARAMAIC.

[@DaVinci3333]

2 Timothy 1:10-14 [10]And this has now been made manifest by the illumination of our Savior Jesus Christ, who certainly has destroyed death, and who has also illuminated life and incorruption through the Gospel. [11]Of this Gospel, I have been appointed a preacher, and an Apostle, and a teacher of the Gentiles. [12]For this reason, I also suffer these things. But I am not confounded. For I know in whom I have believed, and I am certain that he has the power to preserve what was entrusted to me, unto that day. [13]Hold to the kind of sound words that you have heard from me in the faith and love which is in Christ Jesus. [14]Guard the good entrusted to you through the Holy Spirit, who lives within us. (Apostle Paul instructing Apostle Timothy)

[@Wolfangs88]

There are more than 30000+ Protestant denominations but only 1 Catholic Church, enough said

[@adamhovey407]

I saw some arguments against that number, but, that being said, the fact that the closest town to where I live has a Baptist church, a Methodist church, an Episcopal church, a Non-Denominational church, not to mention a multitude of Baptist churches right outside of town.

[@definitelynotatroll]

Fang Qu to be fair, there is also only 1 Orthodox Church.

[@MystoRobot]

@@adamhovey407 You're right, the number _was_ disputed: that was more than a decade+ ago though... But since then, I think that number was reached, and quite possibly crossed. I'm keeping in mind the hundreds of new protestant parishes popping out each year in the US alone... considering that despite their "baptist" or "Methodist" brands, their preaching/identity in beliefs depends on the preachers themselves. _(ie. My Baptist friend reported that his preacher mixed Calvinist and Baptist aspects of beliefs together, which to me becomes a hybrid, constructed inconsistent faith.)_ Each cities, each countries, etc... I think it is now fair to mention -- at least -- several tens of thousands in the entire world.

[@maimere]

​@@definitelynotatroll , au contraire . There are several Orthodox Churches. Each one is independent from the other. They do not live in unity of doctrine.

[@parrisroy]

The Roman Catholic religion is the most heretical of all 30,000 though!

[@DaVinci3333]

Matthew 18:15-18 [15]But if your brother has sinned against you, go and correct him, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you will have regained your brother. [16]But if he will not listen you, invite with you one or two more, so that every word may stand by the mouth of TWO or THREE WITNESSES. [17]AND IF HE WILL NOT LISTEN TO THEM (*you and the witnesses), TELL THE CHURCH. But if he will not listen to the Church, let him be to you like the pagan and the tax collector. [18]Amen I say to you, whatever you will have bound on earth, shall be bound also in heaven, and whatever you will have released on earth, shall be released also in heaven.

[@DaVinci3333]

James 5:14,16 [14]Is anyone ill among you? Let him bring in the priests of the Church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord. [16]Therefore, confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another, so that you may be saved. For the unremitting prayer of a just person prevails over many things.

[@DaVinci3333]

John 21:25 [25]Now there are also many other things that Jesus did, which, if each of these were written down, the world itself, I suppose, would not be able to contain the books that would be written.

[@DaVinci3333]

1 Timothy 3:1-2,5,8,12,15 [1]It is a faithful saying: if a man desires the episcopate, he desires a good work. [2]Therefore, it is necessary for a bishop to be beyond reproach, the husband of one wife, sober, prudent, gracious, chaste, hospitable, a teacher, [5]For if a man does not know how to lead his own house, how will he take care of the Church of God? [8]Similarly, deacons must be chaste, not double-tongued, not given to much wine, not pursuing tainted profit, [12]Deacons should be the husband of one wife, men who lead their own children and their own houses well. [15]But, if I am delayed, you should know the manner in which it is necessary to conduct yourself in the house of God, which is the Church of the living God, the pillar and the foundation of truth.

[@kidcrow18]

Mathew 18 is not a scripture we use it as. God is in the midst when I’m alone and no one is there but me and the presence of God Mathew 18 is talking about offenses in the church. God is saying he will be in the midst of that when you go to your brother to clear up an offense Grab your bible and read it in its intended context

[@Davidjune1970]

No Jesus is telling people to reconcile with those who you sin against and for those who sin against you to reconcile with you. This is why Jesus told them the parable of the Lord who forgave his servants debt to him. Then that servant didn’t forgive a debt of another servant that owed them. The lord then punished that servant for not showing mercy. Why would that parable be necessary if there was no need to reconcile sins when debt is already paid? Why did Jesus go on to say the so the Lord shall treat you. Matthew 18:23-35 (RSVCE): 23 “Therefore the kingdom of heaven may be compared to a king who wished to settle accounts with his servants. 24 When he began the reckoning, one was brought to him who owed him ten thousand talents; 25 and as he could not pay, his lord ordered him to be sold, with his wife and children and all that he had, and payment to be made. 26 So the servant fell on his knees, imploring him, ‘Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay you everything.’ 27 And out of pity for him the lord of that servant released him and forgave him the debt. 28 But that same servant, as he went out, came upon one of his fellow servants who owed him a hundred denarii; and seizing him by the throat he said, ‘Pay what you owe.’ 29 So his fellow servant fell down and besought him, ‘Have patience with me, and I will pay you.’ 30 He refused and went and put him in prison till he should pay the debt. 31 When his fellow servants saw what had taken place, they were greatly distressed, and they went and reported to their lord all that had taken place. 32 Then his lord summoned him and said to him, ‘You wicked servant! I forgave you all that debt because you besought me; 33 and should not you have had mercy on your fellow servant, as I had mercy on you?’ 34 And in anger his lord delivered him to the jailers, till he should pay all his debt. 35 So also my heavenly Father will do to every one of you, if you do not forgive your brother from your heart.” Before this Jesus says quite plainly that they need to forgive trespasses in the Our Father prayer. Then reinforces this need to forgive sins amongst each other and with the church if reconciliation cannot occur between the two Matthew 6:9-13 (RSVCE): 9 Pray then like this: Our Father who art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. 10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, On earth as it is in heaven. 11 Give us this day our daily bread; 12 And forgive us our debts, As WE ALSO HAVE FORGIVEN our debtors; 13 And lead us not into temptation, But deliver us from evil. This is a lot of talk about reconciling. Why? Because Jesus asked you to follow him. That means assuming the characteristics of God. To show love and mercy to those who do wrong to you and for them to show you mercy even when you don’t deserve it and vice versa. This is the second commandment. The apostles talk about reconciliation in the NT after Jesus ascended. Paul most plainly says that the church has the ministry of reconciliation in his letters to the Corinthians and even chastises them later for taking each other to civil court for wrongs against each other rather than going before the church to confess their sins and seek reconciliation. 2 Corinthians 5:18-21 (RSVCE): All this is from God, who through Christ reconciled us to himself and gave us the ministry of reconciliation; 19 that is, in Christ God was reconciling the world to himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and entrusting to us the message of reconciliation. 20 So we are ambassadors for Christ, God making his appeal through us. We beseech you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to God. 21 For our sake he made him to God Paul calls it the ministry of reconciliation… we (apostles) are ambassadors of Christ to act with God’s mercy for the forgiveness of sins. Here you can see Paul annoyed that the Corinthians continue to act like gentiles and not Christian’s when they don’t take their sins to the church to reconcile 1 Corinthians 6:1-6 (RSVCE): 1 When one of you has a grievance against a brother, does he dare go to law before the unrighteous instead of the saints? 2 Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world is to be judged by you, are you incompetent to try trivial cases? 3 Do you not know that we are to judge angels? How much more, matters pertaining to this life! 4 If then you have such cases, why do you lay them before those who are least esteemed by the church? 5 I say this to your shame. Can it be that there is no man among you wise enough to decide between members of the brotherhood, 6 but brother goes to law against brother, and that before unbelievers? Protestants have done away with this Christ teaching. That is a step away from following Christ by asking those you have directly hurt for forgiveness and also to forgive those who should ask you for mercy.

[@gutyfive5]

And what if orthodox church is the real one? Eastern schism, how do we know? God bless

[@jorgerio6888]

The orthodox? Based on what? A man found a city in honour of himself, Constantine, and the church founded there was the church of the powerful and its bishop has no authority... while the church of Rome was founded by the first Bishop, Peter, who received the authority by Jesus himself... and Jesus' Church was built over him.. so...

[@elijahyoung11]

@@jorgerio6888 Amen. I was going to go Eastern Orthodoxy, but, they don’t have the Filioque and Rome is where the Church Fathers said we should be in union with.

[@russbus1967]

The chair of Peter is the supreme see of the church. Our Eastern Orthodox brethren are not in communion with the Bishop of Rome, therefore they are not in full communion with the one, holy, Catholic, and apostolic church. Let us pray for unity.

[@amascia8327]

... all of which becomes a great problem when teaching becomes ambiguous as with today's modern churchmen. Fortunately, we have a treasure trove of refined dogma as the foundation. Unfortunately, the ambiguity is obviously deliberate and would be scandalous if the victims knew anything... so instead, it's the new mainstream. "Robert Barker, 1 year ago: Interesting how clear, unambiguous statements from ... require so much explanation - EVERY SINGLE TIME" ... Every Single Time ...

[@IulioFulu-on4mk]

God things never lost, only you will gone anytime n lost in time. Have faith good for you...

[@hopaideia]

1a. Tim 3, 14-15 » 1a. Cor 12,4-13 Jesús Es la Cabeza de la Iglesia, y la Iglesia es de DIOS

[@jessiesnider7704]

True ...30K branches of Christian denominations...all can from the Catholic Church.

[@rikky702]

How about an Our Father or Hail Mary than your personal prayer which is more of the Protestant way of praying.

[@DaVinci3333]

Acts 11:26 [26]And they were conversing there in the Church for an entire year. And they taught such a great multitude, that it was at Antioch that the disciples were first known by the name of Christian. ***St. IGNATIUS the Bishop of Antioch who was ORDAINED BY PETER and instructed by Peter, John, and Paul. Also was the one who coined Catholic Church to describe the ONE UNIVERSAL CHURCH. Read IGNATIUS' writings and become RED PILLED.

[@andrewscotteames4718]

What I have noticed is that churches that call themselves “Bible believing” tend to believe significantly less of the Bible than Catholics. 1 Peter 3:21? Nah. Mathew 26:26? Metaphor. Romans 6:4? Symbolic. 2 Thessalonians 2:15? He only meant until the writing of the last book of the New Testament. 1 Corinthians 3:13-15? Too vague to draw any solid conclusions. Revelation 12:17? That’s not about Mary. Hebrews 12:1? They are not actually witnessing you, dude. James 2:24? You just don’t understand what he means. On and on and on.

[@DaVinci3333]

Galatians 1:6-9 [6]I wonder that you have been so quickly transferred, from him who called you into the grace of Christ, over to another gospel. [7]For there is no other, except that there are some persons who disturb you and who want to overturn the Gospel of Christ. [8]But if anyone, even we ourselves or an Angel from Heaven, were to preach to you a gospel other than the one that we have preached to you, let him be anathema. [9]Just as we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone has preached a gospel to you, other than that which you have received, let him be anathema.

[@DaVinci3333]

John 20:21-23,30-31 [21]Therefore, he said to them again: "Peace to you. As the Father has sent me, so I send you." [22]When he had said this, he breathed on them. And he said to them: "Receive the Holy Spirit. [23]Those whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them, and those whose sins you shall retain, they are retained." [30]Jesus also accomplished many other signs in the sight of his disciples. These have not been written in this book. [31]But these things have been written, so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and so that, in believing, you may have life in his name.

[@leonardsvideos7353]

Marcus Grodi's position suffers from a logical inconsistency. In spite of what he says, he "leans on his own understanding" (Proverbs) and appeals to biblical authority, specifically, 1 Timothy 3:15 (the church is "the pillar and bulwark of the truth"), to arrive at the view that the Catholic Church is the authority on interpretation of the Scriptures. In effect he says, " I use MY judgement to interpret 1 Timothy 3:15 and, having done that, I leave it to the Catholic Church to tell me what the rest of the Bible says because I don't have the ability and the confidence to interpret the rest of it myself"! Marcus Grodi also overlooks that, when we read the New Testament, we are taught by the New Testament Church, so, for example, when we read and try to understand 1 Timothy, we are taught by the apostle Paul directly. Therefore, the "sola scriptura" vs. church authority dichotomy is wrong. The true dichotomy is between the authority of the first century Church that produced the New Testament scriptures (who also interpreted the Old Testament for us) and that of all other professed churches that followed it.

[@athonyhiggins3117]

In relation to the church fathers They didn't have a consensus of opinion about doctrine about Catholics doctrine.the impression is given that the church fathers all believed the same thing.Please Marcus do not lambast other denomination.catholics have has many popes over the centuries anouncing different doctrines and interpretations the same as protestant Christians please look deeper in to history and you will find scisims that separated from the Catholic church,not just the reformation regards, Anthony

[@mamariachannel17]

You know most of this name of other church some they are catholic first being baptized in the 3 Holly trinity The sign of the cross The Father.The Son and The Holly Spirits .And you are so right there is only 1 Jesus Christ yet people decided each other into group of religion.That those who claim to be Christians the other name of group saying they are the only one can go to heaven.they are save.they are going to be raptured and etc.And if you are in the same group with them they only call their own group bro.and sisters and if they know. Your catholic they won't call you sisters and brothers and they would say Catholic is evil church.the statue and the believers.If only they understand only catholics follow the scriptures of the Bible Jesus said this is how you pray The Our Father that's what he teach to his disciples and others.And only Catholics bow down to the Holly spirits of Jesus Christ as a king of heaven we bent our knees as a respect to the Holly spirits of Jesus Christ who suffer and die on the cross for our sins and the sins of the world.What I like about the Catholic church every one is welcome and it's all about the prayers and there is some evidence according to others who experienced it that some of the Eucharist did some miracles that truly the Holly spirits of Jesus Christ is present when the priest blessed the host as body of Christ and the wine as blood of Christ it was the teaching of Jesus Christ to his 12 disciples the last supper He said to his disciples eat this bread as my body as a reminder of him and the wine as his blood as a reminder of him.it means he blessed those bread or host for us to take it that we believed on him and trust him as our saviour.as a 3 Holly trinity The father The Son and The Holly Spirits.that blessed us to take away our sins to forgive us and etc and for to believed that he is The Way.The Thruth and The life that's what those host is all about the priest just follow the teaching of the Bible the teaching of Jesus to his deciples .And about the statue this theologian priest explain it forgot his name he said the reason there's a statue in the Catholic church is because long time ago there is only few bible then and some doesn4 know how to read and understand the Bible so what the catholic church did long time ago they bring the life of the bible by making a statue they bring it to life so others understand the story of the Bible and some of the statue I believed it was made to represent the blessed mother Mary who appear to the 3 children back in 1917 .100 years past now the blessed mother Mary appear in the town of Fatima and I believed some of Jesus statue they copy it to the the shroud of Turin God bless every ione

[@athonyhiggins3117]

The over whelming consensus of protestant churches believe in salvation through faith alone in jesus. In this they all stand united regarding baptism catholicism does not adhere to the early church no full immersion only christening. The bible is the only authority.. jesus only initiated water baptism and the lord supper. The Catholic churches teaching is contrary to the word of God . please debate with an ex Catholic priest who will explorer it's error

[@athonyhiggins3117]

The speaker also takes a random scripture out of context and created a Catholic doctrine.no difference to what protestant churches do Anthony

[@PInk77W1]

Difference is There is one Catholic Church There is 30,000 Protestant churches

[@brucebarber4104]

@@PInk77W1 🎯

[@athonyhiggins3117]

Marcus states that the word rapture does not appear in the bible, this statement is not true .the Latin word is to be caught up.marcus please read thesolonians four seventeen it obvious that Paul was speaking about the rapture.also Peter mentioned it and he was supposed to be the first pope Marcus read your Bible

[@athonyhiggins3117]

The verse that you refer is out of context. Paul is referring to the word of God. please do not extract Catholic doctrine form this verse Christ is the foundation please , Anthony

[@robertlulek1634]

The Catholics like to use Timothy 3:15. This man is totally misunderstanding what that means.the Mormons can take that verse 2 and say you'll see where the church where the correct teaching where the bulwark and the truth. Christ is the bulwark and Christ is the church. He is the embodiment of the truth. Those who wrote scripture where under the guidance of God's hand and God would protect his word through those writings and the truth. The Church of God is the teacher of the word. But those who are called by God and elected those are the church. Christ being a bulwark and the church members to small stones of the foundation. If a church speaks the truth that is what that verse means. Not a church that perverts the truth. For any denomination can claim that they are the true church for guidance. I look at scripture alone for truth

[@dalge3733]

Where do you get your scriptures? If it's the Holy Bible, then it was developed by Catholics. It was Protestants that removed some books from the original Bible. There was no Bible until around the 4th century. How do you think they got the truth before then? From the traditions. 2 Thessalonians 2:13-15 (NRSVCE): But we must always give thanks to God for you, brothers and sisters beloved by the Lord, because God chose you as the first fruits for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and through belief in the truth. 14 For this purpose he called you through our proclamation of the good news, so that you may obtain the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. 15 So then, brothers and sisters, stand firm and hold fast to the traditions that you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by our letter.

[@tiffanytapia]

Robert Lulek kzbin.info/www/bejne/rp2WoXdqoZV-a7c

[@PInk77W1]

1 Tim 3:15 not Tim 3:15 Problem with the Mormons was there was none for 1800yrs. God Love u now

[@blackrocket673]

Who are you by looking at scripture and deciding it's meaning.2pet 1:20.

[@PInk77W1]

Black Rocket not deciding what it means Echoing the church teaching

[@robertlulek1634]

When Luther saw the atrocities of the church being a priest.. Luther brought this to the attention of the Pope. Quest the pope would not hear it. If you saw a child being beat would you not protest??that is simply Luther did he brought the revival back the original Church to its original roots.well I myself will not follow Luther because he is a man he was on the right track because the lies of the Catholic church was too much for him to handle. Selling indulgences. Worshipping idols. The list goes on. St. Peter's basilica church was built by indulgences the sale of salvation.!!! You cannot make it up.Satan has dissuaded and mixed many people up with different denominations.the true church is all of those who believe in Jesus Christ as their lord and savior who love God with all thy heart mind and soul. And love one another as Christ loved the Church.it is a simple gospel for everyone all these traditions and sacraments and everything else throw it out the window it is not important. The important is that Christ died for your sins and that is a free gift.that you are powerless over your sins and there is nothing you can do no marriage no good works that can lead you to eternal life. There is no such place as purgatory as this is a made-up concept.Jesus did not tell the thief on the cross who would have required many many millions of years in purgatory perhaps?? Someday after you serve your time in purgatory you will be with me in Paradise. That is not what he said he said this day you shall be with me in Paradise. Does this not contradict Catholic teaching and it's infallibility??? There is no such thing as a denomination the church is universal. The true universal church is those that are called by God and elected by God to be the petro's of the bulwark. Who is Christ the foundation. Christ to the power of the Holy Spirit brings those whom he chooses to be used for his glorious purpose

[@marycrawford3460]

Luther believed in the real presence of Christ in the Eucharist. Bet YOU don't

[@frederickanderson1860]

The promise of the holy Spirit not on one person like Peter. The names of blasphemy are pontifex maximus and holy Father. That denies both the Father & son which is the spirit of antichrist.1 john chapter 2: 18-20.

[@robertlulek1634]

this man should read scripture again under the guidance of the Holy Spirit and ask the Holy Spirit to reveal the truth to him. perhaps then he will see the truth not in his own eyes but through The eyes of the Holy Spirit

[@dalge3733]

Robert Lulek Maybe you should ask the Holy Spirit to lead you to the truth. I have read much about Catholicism from unbiased sources using my Protestant Bible and the Holy Spirit led me to the same conclusion as Marcus Grodi, Scott Hahn, Steve Ray and others. The truth is there if you aren't afraid to go where it leads you.

[@robertlulek1634]

@@dalge3733 this man is spot-on is a former Catholic it all depends on which truth you are following weather it scriptural or not. I was Catholic and raised Catholic I knew it was not what God wanted. Hopefully this will help you.this man is spot-on I would encourage you to watch all of his video series kzbin.info/www/bejne/nWObXqKJpc92d7c

[@blackrocket673]

Is that what you do?well let me tell why call the holy spirit aren't you the temple of the holy spirit. Then why call him and how do you know he'll come? And how do you know it's not another spirit. Read Matthew 24:24

[@athonyhiggins3117]

But before first Timothy Paul says that a leader should be the husband of one wide.catholic priest's do not marry please do not take this scripture out of context, Anthony this is not proof that the Text is endorsing the Catholic church please do not read the this scripture in isolation , Anthony

[@athonyhiggins3117]

There are not 300. Thousand protestant denominations this is not true please tell the truth .I base my faith on the bible. I hear many stories about ex nuns and priests who have found Christ the you never saw is not related to the Catholic church this is not the correct interpretation

[@parrisroy]

The Roman Catholic “Church” is the pillar and ground of all lies and blasphemy. The Mother of Harlots as Revelation explains.

[@PInk77W1]

Roy Anthony all Mainline Protestant churches are pro abortion The Roman Catholic Church is pro Life. God Love u now

[@tomdelash7289]

Him Bike There is NO authentic Christian Protestant church that supports abortion. Either you are being completely disingenuous and are promulgating a lie intentionally or you are woefully ignorant of Christian Protestant teaching in which case you should not comment publicly. I am a former Catholic, but God led me away because of the many outright contradictions between God’s infallible Word and Catholic traditions. The Bible warns against this very thing.

[@PInk77W1]

tom delash read what I posted. ALL MAINLINE PROTESTANT CHURCHES ARE PRO ABORTION

[@tomdelash7289]

Him Bike NONE of them are!!!!

[@PInk77W1]

tom delash the movie that just came out recently UNPLANNED about a lady who worked for planned parenthood She ended up becoming Christian and pro life She started attending a Protestant church. Episcopalian. She gave a pro life talk at her church one day and when she finished She was told not to ever come back. She ended up converting to Roman Catholic Church.

[@robertlulek1634]

The true church was two thousand years ago Christ is the bulwark The Rock he is the foundation of the Church. The other apostles including Peter are Petros small stones of that wall. Peter was not the first pope all of the apostles were given the commission to go out into the world and preach the truth. The truth church was made up of small groups of people in different parts of the world. There was different names of the churches and groups. Rome was the powerful empire that persecuted Christians.in a nutshell Constantine came to power and Sora way to bring people back under one religious belief of Rome. Constantine, by the way was a sun worshipper. Ace are a vision in the sky a burning cross that said conquer this. Clearly a vision of Satan to mislead. He brought all of the religions of the Roman empire together. Including the worship of isis. Replaced it with Mary. The Catholic Church Roots starts in the year 3 12 through 325 a d. The true Church of God is the one that Jesus started through the apostles beginning in acts. the Catholics misinterpret this as Peter being given commission to be the first pope which is a total lie and Miss Truth

[@blackrocket673]

Poor thing . Are you sure your last name is not confusious. You are lost lost lost.. pity.

[@robertlulek1634]

@@blackrocket673 True Christians know the truth look at history. Why do they call it the Roman Catholic Church you think about it? God calls his true people that know the truth not lie from the devil.I was ready to and tradition growing up as a Catholic school boy. But I also know the truth that it was a lie and left and knew that I was under the guise of religion

[@robertlulek1634]

@Skelley w r o. N g

[@robertlulek1634]

@Skelley Crumbles and sand nowhere in the Bible here are used to be Catholic as well I know the truth!! kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5KtoYt5Zs2dfJY

[@athonyhiggins3117]

There have been scisims in the Catholic church . Jesus is the head of the church.pillar and ground of the church is not Catholic. read your Bible

[@Tsumebleraar]

Jesus is the sole Authority through His Word and His Spirit, not through a human who claims to be infallible! In so far as the Bible is followed and obeyed the church is the keeper of the truth! Sola Scriptura!

[@amascia8327]

Noor... Looks like the Bible was assembled by the early churchmen [church]: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Testament

[@bradleesargent]

Do you claim the writers of scripture to be infallible while writing scripture? Well so do Catholics but we extend that to include the church which compiled the scriptures and all what she teaches regarding faith and morals. If you put the Bible into the hands of a Muslim, sola scriptura won't do much good if he's showing you that Jesus was only a prophet using his favorite verses.

[@Archangelatis]

You do realise its the Catholic Church that complied the Bible and that you are claiming that a fallible Church gave you an infallible bible. While Catholics claim an infallible Church gave us an infallible bible: strong logic I say. The bible itself makes no claim of Sola Scriptura. Can you see why this is presented by Protestant clergy who have converted to Catholicism? And which of the 40 000 different Protestant denominations who cannot agree with each other who claim Jesus is the sole Authority through His Word and His Spirit is telling the truth? kzbin.info?search_query=journey+home+ewtn+baptist

[@hamartian]

@Noordeman Ooooh, you poor thing 😦

[@marklouisondevilla847]

If Sola Scriptura is true, point us the book and verse in the bible that it says in black and white that Bible Alone or Sola Scriptura exists please.

[@athonyhiggins3117]

The authority is the word of God.cathilicism has many inconsistent statements the same as non Catholics. the pope's changed many of their doctrines over the centuries.the Westminster Confession speaks for the great majority of Protestant's believe in faith alone the works and fruit follow. Christ only instituted communion and baptism the Coptic church is more ancient than the alleged Catholic church .if you believe the bible read the second commandment you shall not bow down before any image Mary is dead she was not assumed in to heaven bible does not support praying to saints the mass is not valid an unbloody Sacrifice is not a sacrifice can't rely on the church fathers some were okay some heretics purgotary is not found in the bible. Protestant Al of them believe in justification by faith alone Al are agreed on that. The church was born on the day of Pentecost no hint of catholicism in the early church many ex Catholic priests and nuns have been saved through the ministry of Richard Bennet ex Catholic priests .what about scandal involving young boys abused by priests is this the church that jesus founded I think Not.yesprotestant ministers fall into that sin but not to the extent that Catholic priests do . some one asked Luther what is left if we take the sacraments out of the church , Luther replied christ.justifucation by faith alone has sorely challenged the Catholic church overall protestant congregations in spite of different expressions.are in unity by grace are you saved through faith not of yourself self it is the gift of God may you trust in Jesus alone