The Voyage of the Dawn Treader ~ Lost in Adaptation

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Dominic Noble

Dominic Noble

3 жыл бұрын

A comparison of the 2010 film to the C.S Lewis book it adapted.
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@Macapta
@Macapta 3 жыл бұрын
“My girlfriend turned into a star” “That’s rough buddy”
@b.parker1740
@b.parker1740 3 жыл бұрын
Stardust (1997) (2007) Dom needs to tackle that one sometime.
@Kartissa
@Kartissa 3 жыл бұрын
"I know how you feel." - Sokka
@cityman2312
@cityman2312 3 жыл бұрын
Reverse the genders in Twinkle's song, Golden Lights.
@auldthymer
@auldthymer 3 жыл бұрын
*sings Baby you can drive my car...
@osmanyousif7849
@osmanyousif7849 3 жыл бұрын
"She was right, of course. But it still hurt....."
@saraandreoli3684
@saraandreoli3684 3 жыл бұрын
me, who thought that caspian losing his accent (since he’s not a telmarine anymore, he’s the king of narnia and he has to speak like a narnian) was a genius acting choice from ben barnes: 🤡🤡🤡
@x_8643
@x_8643 3 жыл бұрын
Liam Neeson Liam Neeson Knees, Son
@andurilcuivie
@andurilcuivie 3 жыл бұрын
Head cannon is a useful thing, don’t let reality force you to abandon it.
@Kartissa
@Kartissa 3 жыл бұрын
That would have worked, especially if he occasionally lapsed back into the old accent in times of stress, at least in part.
@chadfalardeau5396
@chadfalardeau5396 3 жыл бұрын
I just assumed Caspian changed it over time
@maggiemcfly5267
@maggiemcfly5267 3 жыл бұрын
He had an accent?! I never watched this movies in their original language and the dubbing completely disregarded that fact 😂
@oosakasan
@oosakasan 3 жыл бұрын
Men will literally go on a quest to find their dad's old drinking buddies rather than go to therapy.
@18Hongo
@18Hongo 3 жыл бұрын
Well, thanks for pointing that out. I wasn't feeling great before you did, but even so...
@oosakasan
@oosakasan 3 жыл бұрын
@@18Hongo Maybe one reason I like it so much is that I've had the same thought myself - not the "men" part, but having fantasy protagonist envy and thinking "I wish *I* could be whisked off on a fantasy adventure where I save the world and Learn Lessons/Find Myself which helps me solve all my real-world problems when I come back". Then I thought "OK but that's never happening, partly because it's a one-in-a-million event but mostly because fantasy adventure worlds don't exist... Am I screwed or is there some real-world way I could simulate the experience and get the same result. Oh... therapy I guess?"
@18Hongo
@18Hongo 3 жыл бұрын
@@oosakasan Oh... OK: I was trying to make a joke - something along the lines of "that's painfully accurate and uncomfortable for me to think about". Obviously I didn't communicate that, but I really was just trying to riff on the "men will do X instead of going to therapy" meme. Thanks for making such a thoughtful reply though; it's very nice of you to be so considerate of my feelings when you thought I'd just failed to understand a joke.
@oosakasan
@oosakasan 3 жыл бұрын
@@18Hongo Oh, what I relief! Thank you for bouncing off my comment then, I really enjoy the joke and I'm sorry I ruined it by misinterpreting your reply :) maybe I was extra-sensitive because I recently commented on a Macabre Storytelling video about men and dating which was all about problems men sometimes have getting their struggles acknowledged and I was mixing my threads...
@18Hongo
@18Hongo 3 жыл бұрын
@@oosakasan Not to worry. The meme itself does address a very real issue in men's mental health; there is a general opinion that men should not be vulnerable or talk about their feelings (although I'm sure you're already familiar with that aspect of the problem).
@adqueen2548
@adqueen2548 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Caspian was supposed to be annoyed with Eustace, but Barnes couldn't do it as he was too amused with him
@samuelmackenzie5267
@samuelmackenzie5267 2 жыл бұрын
That’s interesting. In this movie I noticed a little nod to Shrek with one of the lines of dialogue.
@SingingSealRiana
@SingingSealRiana Жыл бұрын
sounds like barnes, he had way to much fun with everyones antics at shadow and bones too
@crasyfujoshi1312
@crasyfujoshi1312 Жыл бұрын
Lol maybe that explains why the only thing I remember about this movie is that I shipped those to pretty hard even thou I didn’t even know what shipping was at that time
@CodeeXD
@CodeeXD Жыл бұрын
​@@crasyfujoshi1312 that's weird
@damenwhelan3236
@damenwhelan3236 Жыл бұрын
​@CodeeXD It's weird to see 2.people interact and think "they're prolly fawking..."?..
@mrcritical6751
@mrcritical6751 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta love how when Eustace becomes a dragon he keeps Will Poulter’s weird as hell eyebrows
@Acidfrog475
@Acidfrog475 3 жыл бұрын
@@slevinchannel7589 I agree, but it's still weird how you replied this here.
@slevinchannel7589
@slevinchannel7589 3 жыл бұрын
@@Acidfrog475 Weird indeed!
@slevinchannel7589
@slevinchannel7589 3 жыл бұрын
@@Acidfrog475 Sorry if it was too random, but what can you do? Its just that many people arent really aware of it; and the existence of cancel-culture just overcomplicates it all, anyway.
@soapthesoap
@soapthesoap 3 жыл бұрын
HE DOES HAVE WEIRD EYEBROWS
@spencergreen9415
@spencergreen9415 3 жыл бұрын
"If I had a nickel for every time a woman literally left the world to get away from me I would have 2 nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice."
@nikolaiwhite4255
@nikolaiwhite4255 4 ай бұрын
So two girls killed themselves to get away. Do we need to do something about this?
@agentofmalarkey7241
@agentofmalarkey7241 3 жыл бұрын
Dom's thirst for Ben Barnes is so relatable
@julian7247
@julian7247 2 жыл бұрын
Makes me want to see him do something with/about netflixs punisher
@Technodreamer
@Technodreamer 3 жыл бұрын
Let me tell you, as a kid with ZERO exposure to Christianity reading this book, the "Aslan as a lamb" thing was SUPER confusing at the time.
@LordMangudai
@LordMangudai 2 жыл бұрын
As a kid, that was the one moment where I was like "okay, this Jesus stuff is getting to be a bit much". Generally I always kinda knew it was there but was able to keep it in the background, but the lamb symbolism was too on the nose even for pre-teen me.
@18Hongo
@18Hongo 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I didn't grow up religious, and since I read the books when I was quite young, the lamb thing just went over my head. That said, quite a bit of the allegory went over my head, so by the time I got to that particular incident, my reaction was pretty much "It's Narnia. Weird shit happens". Looking back, I was probably a bit too young to appreciate the darker stories of "The Silver Chair" and "The Last Battle". I remember thinking that the end of the series was definitely trying for a heaven metaphor, but it was awfully complicated. I also probably didn't understand a lot of "The Magician's Nephew" as well. I wouldn't encounter Narnia again until my early twenties, when I read Neil Gaiman's short story "The Problem of Susan", which is one of those Neil Gaiman stories that makes you put the book down and say "What the fuck?" out loud in a packed train carriage.
@calicojacque
@calicojacque Жыл бұрын
I did grow up in a Christian home, but damn, I didn't get Aslan being Jesus until I was in my thirties, XD
@patoren3gou653
@patoren3gou653 Жыл бұрын
How the f*** did you have zero exposure to Christianity how's that even possible in the Western world
@Technodreamer
@Technodreamer Жыл бұрын
@@patoren3gou653 Jewish kid in a highly Jewish neighborhood. There was one kid in my elementary school class who was...Catholic, I think?
@EmpressCosplay
@EmpressCosplay 3 жыл бұрын
My favourite Narnia related Memory was when I met Anna Popplewell at a convention, accidentally blocked her way with my gigant ass dress, and she told me I was gorgeous and ASKED FOR A PICTURE WITH ME... She's so sweet.
@GriffinPilgrim
@GriffinPilgrim 3 жыл бұрын
That is very sweet. So nice when stories of actors outside their roles makes you like them more instead of less.
@ZipplyZane
@ZipplyZane 3 жыл бұрын
Now you've gotten me curious. Do you have photos anywhere of your cosplay work?
@evilempryss
@evilempryss 3 жыл бұрын
What was your cosplay? Inquiring minds want to know!
@NarnianRailway
@NarnianRailway 3 жыл бұрын
She is an amazing lady. Sent a request for an autograph picture after the Prince Caspian film. I figured her agent/manager would send a picture already signed for autograph requests (and hoping I had the correct overseas postage on the envelope). Was surprised quite some time later when my return envelop did arrive with an autographed picture. Miss Popplewell also included a short handwritten letter saying how much she appreciates fans enjoying the films and apologized for the delay responding, she was busy concentrating on her university studies. An amazing gesture of kindness on her part, but of course she is a Narnian Queen.
@sonorasgirl
@sonorasgirl 3 жыл бұрын
@@NarnianRailway I don’t know why this made my night exactly, but it 100% did - thanks for sharing
@RodrickMarsMoon
@RodrickMarsMoon 3 жыл бұрын
"The show that's basically the personification of that one friend who's always read the book and won't shut up about it." Dude, that's basically me in a nutshell 😂.
@august1837
@august1837 3 жыл бұрын
Same. I feel called out
@natashamorais6264
@natashamorais6264 3 жыл бұрын
So do I
@RodrickMarsMoon
@RodrickMarsMoon 3 жыл бұрын
@@natashamorais6264 Eeita, brasileiros realmente se encontram em todo e qualquer lugar 😱😂... Kkkkk'.
@natashamorais6264
@natashamorais6264 3 жыл бұрын
@@RodrickMarsMoon kkkk verdade.
@InevitableMe
@InevitableMe 4 ай бұрын
Me too!
@Brawler1993
@Brawler1993 3 жыл бұрын
"A random hot woman tells the crew that the suspicious table of food is totally safe to eat." Me: And it turns out to be a trap and she's actually some kind of evil spirit or something, right? "Nope, she's 100% on the level and trustworthy." Me: ......... Oh.
@autobotstarscream765
@autobotstarscream765 3 жыл бұрын
Everybody asks her if _it's_ a trap... Nobody asks her if _she's_ a trap...
@bosyber
@bosyber 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. Modern audience :). I would guess that the girl being daughter of a star in the book meant to convey she's pure ie. trustworthy?
@chrismanuel9768
@chrismanuel9768 3 жыл бұрын
Trust nothing. When a stranger tells you to trust them, trust it even less.
@Technodreamer
@Technodreamer 3 жыл бұрын
I think it's a hospitality thing. Eating food that isn't yours, stealing. Eating food once you've been assured that it's safe and invited to partake, sacred hospitality.
@SkollMX
@SkollMX 3 жыл бұрын
Lewis did not do subtle.
@beunkindrewind3737
@beunkindrewind3737 3 жыл бұрын
Ben Barnes said on the My Dad Wrote a Porno podcast that he showed up on the first day and did the Spanish accent from the previous film and the director flatly said: “No. We’re not doing that.”
@joyrowancasey788
@joyrowancasey788 29 күн бұрын
Sorry …… on the WHAT podcast? 😂
@anokhipatel2837
@anokhipatel2837 3 жыл бұрын
One thing I really didn't get when I watched the movie was that Lucy has an obsession with becoming mature and pretty. Everyone just forgets that all of them grew up into adults in Narnia. Lucy might have been the youngest and least mature of the four siblings but she has technically lived for longer than Caspin. It makes no sense that she wants to grow up when she already has once and knows exactly what she'll look like in the future.
@markchapman6800
@markchapman6800 3 жыл бұрын
And also given that, IMNSHO, Lucy as played by Georgie Henley is prettier than Susan anyway.
@emilyrln
@emilyrln 3 жыл бұрын
Idk, I can see wanting to be done with puberty if you'd had to do it once already.
@thirteenfury
@thirteenfury 3 жыл бұрын
Lucy could have resented the fact that she came back to Narnia as a young girl again instead of the mature, beautiful, adult queen she was in previous adventures. Also, I always understood the book of spells being enchanted by the wizard to distract anyone else from using the book themselves and reading all his secrets. So if Edmund had discovered the book instead, he would've been enchanted by a spell to make himself taller/stronger/faster than any other man alive. Eustace may have discovered a spell to get rich or get revenge on his cousins.
@bryt1040
@bryt1040 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe she was just a hot 30 year old and couldn’t wait to hit that age again
@owenf5222
@owenf5222 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair, they went through puberty without any humans besides their siblings around the first time so the appeal of being pretty may not have sunk in the first time.
@TheDreamerExtreme
@TheDreamerExtreme 3 жыл бұрын
"Ben Barnes, an actor who seems to be constantly popping on in the adaptations I review..." *laughs in potential Shadow and Bone video*
@olivermatthew4143
@olivermatthew4143 3 жыл бұрын
You playing Skyward Sword hd too?
@18Hongo
@18Hongo 2 жыл бұрын
I must admit I'm intrigued by that series, but recent circumstances have somewhat soured all things Russian for me. It's entirely irrational, I know, but I suppose this is the feeling that drove people away from German art and culture during the world wars.
@TheaTheGenius
@TheaTheGenius 2 жыл бұрын
@@18Hongo late reply but you may be interested to know that Bardugo's take on Slavic culture is so laughably bad, calling it Russian is an insult to real life Russians. I mean come on, she called her witches Grisha! Like the in universe explanation is that this was to honor their founder St. Grigori, but it's still hilarious since Grisha is basically a nickname. That would be like if you were to name your ancient order of magic-users Bob, after their glorious founder Robert. The rest of the Russian influences in the book are just as nonsensical, and clearly demonstrate that Bardugo didn't do any research into Slavic culture and languages at all. Instead, she went with the J.K Rowling method and included either stereotypes or whatever sounded cool to her.
@samelrafranklin-chessum9989
@samelrafranklin-chessum9989 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheaTheGenius I’m not gonna argue on accuracy but I will say that Grisha being called Grisha from the nickname of their literal founder is the whole point. Like yeah I guess it’s silly on paper but it makes sense as so many groups and movements are named for the people that start them. Admittedly you usually use the last name but I don’t think it’s that outlandish for them to use the diminutive instead. And in fairness to Leigh I don’t think she ever intended for anything to be a one to one comparison, just inspired. I mean that for all countries and ethnic groups in her books btw, not just Ravka
@eireduchess
@eireduchess 3 жыл бұрын
“Wowsa. Hello Mr Barnes. The stubble is a good look” just Dominic out here saying what we’re all thinking
@caseyglick5957
@caseyglick5957 3 жыл бұрын
It's super weird and unfortunate that Lucy's "idealized self" was not "Lucy when she was in her 20s and had been a queen for a decade". Would even have her making a pass at Caspian not totally absurd (although still something that should be shut down, for obvious reasons), if she were used to flirting with guys Lewis had such a big Thing for "purity" that he continually forgot that Lucy should act like the *adult* badass she really was, reserving that angst for the menfolk.
@Igorcastrochucre
@Igorcastrochucre 3 жыл бұрын
It genuinely bothers me that the Pevensie children went right back into having a normal life despite the fact they gathered knowledge and experience of an entire adult life. I know not all of it can be applied to a "modern" world, but as far as being an adult in said world, they would be ahead of anyone else.
@caseyglick5957
@caseyglick5957 3 жыл бұрын
You're right there. I have read some fantastic short fanfiction on that subject, that takes the opposite assumption: that they didn't go back to being all "pure" and "innocent" (except Susan who liked makeup and boys). For another alternate take, consider checking out the Wayward Children series, about the school where children go to after leaving their fantasy worlds once their Heroic Mission was completed.
@Seal0626
@Seal0626 3 жыл бұрын
@@Igorcastrochucre I gather that was the point though - it was his way of conveying the experience of the boys who went to the trenches with heads full of glory and adventure, were broken beyond belief and saw more horror and misery than anyone should in a lifetime, then returned(the ones who didn't die) to find everything pretty much as they left it, to try to fit themselves back into their old lives surrounded by people who didn't know or understand what they had lived through.
@Elizabelle79
@Elizabelle79 3 жыл бұрын
@@Seal0626 Well said.
@birdcar7808
@birdcar7808 3 жыл бұрын
That’s not entirely fair. Lewis does not treat the Pevensie children as adults in children’s bodies, whether they’re the boys or the girls. I also think the first book is meant to reflect how kids play pretend and pretend to be grown-up knights or princesses or what have you. You can argue that it’s “less realistic” that a decade+ of years would just disappear and the Pevensie children would become kids again, but these books are fantasies for 6 year olds and their imaginations, so I don’t think it’s a huge deal. Lewis also has no issue with an “adult badass” Lucy fighting in battle in “The Horse and his Boy”, which is another reason I don’t think it’s fair to say he just doesn’t want Lucy to be an adult or be capable or whatever. Rather, I think he wants his audience of young children to connect to his characters, hence why all his main characters are young children and almost always from our world. However I will always agree that the Narnia books are a bit too kiddy in formula for the sheer amount of crazy and often disturbing ideas that are used.
@FaeQueenCory
@FaeQueenCory 3 жыл бұрын
"The low budget BBC miniseries" That's a *very* generous take on their budget.
@sufferingscribe
@sufferingscribe 3 жыл бұрын
If my vague memories of that series are at all accurate, the budget was probably a half eaten ham sandwich and whatever money the crew could find between their couch cushions
@stargirl7646
@stargirl7646 3 жыл бұрын
@@sufferingscribe that explains a lot lol
@oomflem
@oomflem 3 жыл бұрын
And I'm pretty sure the budget for the dawn treader was even lower than the lion, the witch and the wardrobe. Or maybe it just stood out more because of the setting.
@emjenkins464
@emjenkins464 3 жыл бұрын
A yes a budget of 5
@Acidfrog475
@Acidfrog475 3 жыл бұрын
@@sufferingscribe and now "I'm stuck in the middle of nowhere *eating a ham sandwich* " is stuck in my head.
@AbsolXGuardian
@AbsolXGuardian 3 жыл бұрын
The end of this book was a slap in the face to me as a young Jewish kid who didn't know enough about Christianity to have previously picked up any of the allegories. "What the hell in this Jesus shit doing in my fantasy book".
@user-kl3jw6to8g
@user-kl3jw6to8g 3 жыл бұрын
As a former Christian child (former in both respects, though that's probably not valuable information), I had no idea this was allegory until people told me later in life. To be fair, I didn't finish the series as a child, either. I was more familiar with the miniseries... Long story short, I did have the same reaction lol
@ZipplyZane
@ZipplyZane 3 жыл бұрын
Funny thing, as a young Christian I didn't pick up on it, even though I found the book in my church library (which was really just like shelves of books in a musty side room). I got all the way to the last one, then got scared that Tash was "demonic" and didn't finish it. It wasn't until years later when I read the first one (Wardrobe) that I figured it out and felt dumb. So I'm impressed you figured it out at the end of this one. You knew more Jesus stuff than you likely thought. BTW, what do you think of Magician's Nephew, and its creation story? That's the only one that uses a story from the Tanakh (heck, it's form the Torah) so I'm kinda curious.
@Rotten_Prince
@Rotten_Prince 3 жыл бұрын
Ex catholic, got into paganism as a teen and finished the books as a teen... Most flew over My head lol Not for lack of knowledge, I was too focus on escaping through fantasy I guess lol Edit to add: but yes, the finale Even angered me
@seanmcloughlin5983
@seanmcloughlin5983 3 жыл бұрын
Christianity? in my fantasy book? It’s more likely than you think.
@synthWizkid
@synthWizkid 3 жыл бұрын
Circumcision sucks
@julesjewels3459
@julesjewels3459 3 жыл бұрын
"the second girl who leaves the world to get away from me..." this is probably the best clarity moment in film caspian's life ^^ poor dude 😂
@jaymesEo6
@jaymesEo6 3 жыл бұрын
I like Dominic's bisexual awakening when he saw Ben Barnes in this lol
@thirteenfury
@thirteenfury 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's so much of an awakening as it is a revealing. Although if you mean Ben Barnes was his bisexual awakening when the movie first released, then I fully agree.
@Sure0Foot
@Sure0Foot 3 жыл бұрын
but come on...he's HAWT amirite?!?!?!
@flynn659
@flynn659 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine being factory errored lol.
@Nexils
@Nexils 3 жыл бұрын
I mean... mr Barnes certainly is a handsome piece of man hahaha
@GrainneMhaol
@GrainneMhaol 3 жыл бұрын
@Curtis Jeffries Someone's awaiting his own bisexual awakening methinks
@PlatinumAltaria
@PlatinumAltaria 3 жыл бұрын
It is time for me to prove my hipster credentials by insisting that The Horse and His Boy is, in fact, the best book of the series.
@Dachusblot
@Dachusblot 3 жыл бұрын
The Horse and His Boy has the best plot and characters. On the other hand, The Magician's Nephew has the most memorable settings & imagery. On the other other hand, The Silver Chair has Puddleglum. I dunno man, that's a tough one.
@beccag2758
@beccag2758 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve noticed among big Narnia fans HHB and VDT tend to rank the highest, but general populous go with LWW out of sheer exposure (HHB and VDT are my faves, absolute fave depends on the day)
@artsman412
@artsman412 3 жыл бұрын
I don't hate it like some people, and I do really enjoy it, but I don't know if I'd go that far. Honestly I can't really pick a favorite; they all work to form one large story. Lewis says so himself at the end of the final book. It's one of the reasons this is my favorite book series.
@fpedrosa2076
@fpedrosa2076 3 жыл бұрын
HHB, despite some dicey portrayals of -muslims- Calormen, is still my favorite of the bunch. A lot of the characters are flawed, but not complete saints or monsters and the main cast grows quite a bit. All the characters are humbled in one way or another and become wiser for it, and their relationships, which start pretty rocky, grow quite nicely through the story.
@Amanda-ki7pg
@Amanda-ki7pg 3 жыл бұрын
I do really love most of the characters/relationships but it's also the most racist book in the series, imo, so it's a wash for me
@olessiatchijova8605
@olessiatchijova8605 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t help but giggle at the reaction to the first appearance of Ben as Caspian. That is the typical response, don’t worry ☺️
@MissJanePilato412
@MissJanePilato412 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@Acidfrog475
@Acidfrog475 3 жыл бұрын
Dom is peak bi energy in these reviews, especially when discussing a Ben Barnes film.
@noemiecansier8466
@noemiecansier8466 3 жыл бұрын
I really want him to discuss Shadow and Bone just for the sheer thirst potential ( also the adaptation stuff)
@tinap3014
@tinap3014 3 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking Dom is looking as cute as Caspian with his growing tresses
@fisheyenomiko
@fisheyenomiko 3 жыл бұрын
He's hot, but I can't help seeing him as Billy Russo from "The Punisher". It makes watching "Shadow and Bone" kinda odd.
@mystery1317
@mystery1317 3 жыл бұрын
“If this lad is still insecure about his rule after bringing about years of unprecedented peace and prosperity in his nation I think he kind of needs treatment for clinical depression, not a quest to find his dad’s old drinking buddies” Me, hiding the aptly named ‘Caspian’s depression playlist’ Spotify playlist I was just listening to behind my back: “yeah no, that would be crazy, I think 😅”
@Vanastar
@Vanastar 3 жыл бұрын
In the books, Dragon!Eustace does do something useful; he finds and uproots a tree the crew can use to replace their damaged main mast. It's not fighting off a seamonster cool, but it is pretty helpful towards continuing the voyage.
@joelmole3157
@joelmole3157 3 жыл бұрын
Another scene that got cut out: in one of the spells, Lucy found out what her friends were saying behind her back. Turns out they weren't very nice and it ruined their friendship forever. Aslan points this out and blames her curiosity for it. Also yes, please review the BBC adaptations! Not only are they hilariously outdated but they actually adapted The Silver Chair. With Doctor Who himself Tom Baker as Puddleglum no less.
@eowynsisterdaughter
@eowynsisterdaughter 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see him analyze this, plus I think the limited budget actually gave us a more chilling of rendition of the Isle of Dreams.
@ZipplyZane
@ZipplyZane 3 жыл бұрын
Aslan also says that the friend was just acting under peer pressure and didn't actually mean it. So while things wouldn't be the same between them, I've always hoped they made up.
@mirdalacyare6159
@mirdalacyare6159 3 жыл бұрын
My main memory of the BBC version was Lucy’s buck teeth. 6th grade me had that burned into my brain for some reason 😂
@margotmolander5083
@margotmolander5083 3 жыл бұрын
I remember watching some of the BBC version of the Dawn Treader when it was on my locals PBS station and being deeply confused. Maybe it would make more sense now?
@andreamiller3578
@andreamiller3578 3 жыл бұрын
Tom Baker as Puddleglum is awesome and everything I imagined. Perfect casting IMO.
@Caernath
@Caernath 3 жыл бұрын
Aslan: * brutally tears and peels the dragon skin off of Eustace with his giant claws * Eustace: “It hurt like billy-oh.”
@RodrickMarsMoon
@RodrickMarsMoon 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a cutaway gag from Family Guy involving Stewie and a oversized Brian 🤔😂.
@noemiecansier8466
@noemiecansier8466 3 жыл бұрын
At least we got a great Oh Hellos song out of it.. (the lament of Eustace Scrubb)
@waltonsmith7210
@waltonsmith7210 3 жыл бұрын
That made me deeply uncomfortable. Shudder.
@a.w.4708
@a.w.4708 3 жыл бұрын
@@noemiecansier8466 I agree, it's great song.
@Roadent1241
@Roadent1241 3 жыл бұрын
... what does that even mean? Billy-oh???
@tunafour-shoes4618
@tunafour-shoes4618 2 жыл бұрын
Growing up, I really liked this movie for one reason. it has an unambiguously good minotaur character in the cast. I've always loved minotaurs as fantasy creatures, and I like seeing them portrayed in a positive light.
@jazzy4830
@jazzy4830 9 ай бұрын
I think you should just admit you're a furry with a thing for cow fursonas. The Minotaur in myth is clearly a curse on the King Minos for failing to make the bull a religious offering. It's existence is living proof of his wife's bestiality/unfaithfulness and his own hubris, unambiguously cannibalistic and evil but the king is unable to slay it on his own due to his guilt and attachment.
@jedroberts10
@jedroberts10 3 жыл бұрын
I actually didn’t like how they kept Eustace a dragon for the last half of the story. While the chapter may not be that long, the crew actually spent a fair bit of time on the island in the book. Eustace scouts out the island for them, tears up a huge tree to replace their mast, etc. It’s said that they started putting off leaving because they didn’t want to leave Eustace behind, but there wasn’t any feasible way to take a freakin dragon on a ship with them, unless he could just fly alongside them (which is what they went for in the film, but what if they don’t find land before his gets too tired to stay in the air? They address those types of problems in the book, but don’t have a solution). Eustace realizes that he’s a nuisance to the others (beforehand also, but now it’s worse) and decides that he’ll hide somewhere on the island, so they have to leave without him. He resigns himself to living out the rest of his life by himself, as a dragon, on the island. That’s when Aslan steps in and turns him back into a human. I really like how it’s done in the book, but I do admit it would probably be a little hard to execute in a film. Also the filmmakers wanted to have a dragon fight a sea serpent. And yeah, that was pretty cool.
@BugsyFoga
@BugsyFoga 3 жыл бұрын
It's pretty humorous that the Narnia franchise moved to fox just so it could get back into Disney's hands .
@johnbigboote8900
@johnbigboote8900 3 жыл бұрын
It's like that scene in Jurassic Park where Sam Neill and the two children escape from the Jeep that's stuck in the tree.
@timrob12
@timrob12 3 жыл бұрын
It's ironic considering Disney wanted to stop making it and now they had a third movie in their hands.
@kramermariav
@kramermariav 3 жыл бұрын
No one can escape The Mouse
@RabblesTheBinx
@RabblesTheBinx 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rabbitlord108 it's not.
@Ugly_German_Truths
@Ugly_German_Truths 3 жыл бұрын
Is there even anything left that is NOT Disney by now?
@gurglequeen433
@gurglequeen433 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to point out that in the movie, the mist had nothing to do with Eustece becoming a dragon. In Narnia it's common knowledge that if you mess with dragon treasure you get cursed, even without the mist.
@Healermain15
@Healermain15 3 жыл бұрын
Although they were juggeling that armband pretty casually after he got turned back. But then our protagonists aren't exactly great at self-preservation and thinking ahead.
@alanpennie8013
@alanpennie8013 3 жыл бұрын
A bit of Norse mythology (the story of Fafnir) adapted here
@DamienDespair
@DamienDespair 3 жыл бұрын
By common knowledge you mean that it never happened before in the books, and will never be mentioned again...
@gurglequeen433
@gurglequeen433 3 жыл бұрын
@@DamienDespair No I meant, in the movie's Caspian and his crew acted like it was something everybody should have been aware of.
@liljenborg2517
@liljenborg2517 3 жыл бұрын
Even Eustace, who had no idea about dragons, realized that sleeping on a dragon's treasure, thinking dragonish thoughts had turned him into a dragon.
@tomnorton4277
@tomnorton4277 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, the scene between Edmund and Jadis was probably the best in the entire movie. Bringing back Tilda Swinton alone was great but she's not just there for fan service. It actually makes sense for her to show up at that point in the story because of where the encounter takes place. They're in a location where the deepest, darkest parts of the subconscious can be exposed which fits perfectly with what Jadis said before she floated away. She's ALWAYS in the back of Edmund's mind even if he refuses to acknowledge her presence. Temptation isn't something you just overcome and that's the end of it. Resisting it can be a lifelong battle because the chance that you might relapse at some point never completely goes away. The genius behind Jadis' cameo is that it works both as a logical part of the story and as an allegory. It's logical that she would appear to Edmund due to their history but it goes deeper because she's the personification of Satan throughout these movies. The allegory lends more weight to the fact that the Devil never truly dies.
@eliotreader8220
@eliotreader8220 8 ай бұрын
i like how they made Peter's sword magic for the film
@sawanna508
@sawanna508 8 ай бұрын
But I agree that the point of Edmund's ark is that he would never be tempted by her again.
@Tomwithnonumbers
@Tomwithnonumbers 3 жыл бұрын
Dawn Treader was my favourite book, I was a sucker for the redemption arc kids, so having two of them was great. Edmund's character arc in the film should have been learning to be an older brother to Eustace. It's his chance to see the other side of the story he went through.
@bookleaf72
@bookleaf72 3 жыл бұрын
"Well done, lad. You've literally ate the rich!" 😂😂
@Acidfrog475
@Acidfrog475 3 жыл бұрын
25:44 to bless everyone
@PS-dm1dq
@PS-dm1dq 3 жыл бұрын
👏👏👏👏👏!
@elsie8757
@elsie8757 3 жыл бұрын
The connection between the little girl's presence and Lucy's Susan-envy always seemed pretty clear to me? It's showing Lucy that she doesn't need to be Susan, because who she is already is pretty great. The little girl even tells Lucy that she wants to be just like her when she grows up (to which Lucy responds that the girl should focus on being _herself_ instead).
@unfabgirl
@unfabgirl 3 жыл бұрын
Same. That scene is the ending of the arc. Admittedly, I'm not a fan of that arc for Lucy, but the little girl and the scene where Lucy tells her that is such a sweet moment and works well as the payoff.
@azdajajeanne
@azdajajeanne 3 жыл бұрын
I'd actually really like to see a Lost In Adaptation for "The Silver Chair", because the BBC did adapt it, but I've never seen anyone review that one even when they review the other BBC adaptations.
@jasminedancinghands1526
@jasminedancinghands1526 3 жыл бұрын
I second this! I genuinely love that adaptation, Tom Baker is fantastic as Puddleglum and as cheesy and low budget as it is, it’s pretty creative with the costumes and sets. Also I happen to enjoy cheesy old effect so maybe I’m biased (:
@heyblinkin4949
@heyblinkin4949 3 жыл бұрын
Is that the one where the people playing the owls don't even bother with trying to make the owl noises and just outright day "tu-woo, tu-woo"
@graylewis7551
@graylewis7551 3 жыл бұрын
“Wow…that was the second woman to literally leave the world to get away from me…I need to rethink my life”
@krankarvolund7771
@krankarvolund7771 3 жыл бұрын
Director: "I want to recast that character to imply he's older." Productors: "Here, take that younger actor." Director: ".... why?"
@sonorasgirl
@sonorasgirl 3 жыл бұрын
I kinda loved Dawn Treader as a kid. I recognized even then there wasn’t a through-line, but it felt almost like a road trip book with characters I’d seen in constant, oppressive danger. I liked getting short vignettes of them solving things and exploring.
@BonaparteBardithion
@BonaparteBardithion 3 жыл бұрын
I think the episodic nature of it is why the BBC adaptation made a stronger impression on me than the theatrical version despite the lower budget. I can't even say it was the whole series that stood out. Individual episodes stood out on their own.
@sonorasgirl
@sonorasgirl 3 жыл бұрын
@@BonaparteBardithion ooooh, I haven’t seen that one - I’ll have to check it out! That totally makes sense. It would be better as a tv mini series than a movie
@artsman412
@artsman412 3 жыл бұрын
I always saw the book as a Christianized Odyssey; a central goal drives the plot (finding the missing lords), and on the way they encounter and interact with the weird stuff they run into. It worked in The Odyssey, it worked in the actual Dawn Treader Book, it could have worked here. It'd be harder to pull off, but it can be done. A movie that I think also captures a similar narrative rhythm is Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World. That one's a bit different, as it has a "final boss" in the form of the Acheron, but it's still very much finding yourself in various situations while you pursue a singular goal. Had they done something like that with this movie, it might have worked better.
@cbruce78
@cbruce78 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with op. The book always read like a fantasy travelogue: a set destination as the goal with many smaller adventures along the way. Forcing in the green gas film baddie was a turn off for me.
@sonorasgirl
@sonorasgirl 3 жыл бұрын
@@cbruce78 it was 100% a fantasy travelogue! That’s the best description I’ve heard. It also captures the kinda laid back, lower stakes nature of the book
@Thagomizer
@Thagomizer 2 жыл бұрын
This was actually my favorite book in the series. No real plot, just exploration to some weird and wonderful magic islands. But honestly, that's all it needed to be.
@BigGiantMonster
@BigGiantMonster 3 жыл бұрын
When lucy was reading the spell book, she read a spell called How to see yourself as others see you, and then she heard two classmates sh*t talking her. Later when she encountered Aslan, he admonished her for not respecting their privacy. This was totally left out of the movie, and also out of your commentary. Otherwise very well done. Keep these going.
@chrismanuel9768
@chrismanuel9768 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, what a weird fucking parable. "People in my life are insulting and belittling me behind my back and that hurts." - an upset child "Stay in your own lane, bitch." - Literal Jesus
@BigGiantMonster
@BigGiantMonster 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrismanuel9768 Wow that's really edgy and cool of you to say. Let me guess, you're an atheist?
@PS-dm1dq
@PS-dm1dq 3 жыл бұрын
@@BigGiantMonster and who's trying to be an edgelord here? It was a funny comment, stay in YOUR own lane, hun.
@BigGiantMonster
@BigGiantMonster 3 жыл бұрын
@@PS-dm1dq Oh it was FUNNY? LOL I missed that.
@frankspick7544
@frankspick7544 3 жыл бұрын
@@BigGiantMonster how was he being a edgelord he was just those lines were stupid and aslan was literal jesus has the books clearly stated so
@Tadicuslegion78
@Tadicuslegion78 3 жыл бұрын
I suspect a big reason in part why The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe did so well is because out of all the Narnia books, that's the one just about everyone has tried at least once, or you were required in like elementary school and all the others not so much. Now I will say, it's actually astonishing the three Narnia movies all more or less kept to the same look and design and do feel connected because Fox so could of easily said, we're doing our own version of Narnia.
@krankarvolund7771
@krankarvolund7771 3 жыл бұрын
"or you were required in like elementary school" I would've loced to read Narnia in elementary school...;
@grumpyotter
@grumpyotter 3 жыл бұрын
I love all the books, and personally, what drove me from liking the movies was how they butchered my favorite, Prince Caspian. They did better with this one, but the magic was lost.
@tovekauppi1616
@tovekauppi1616 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, we read the Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe in sixth grade. It was one of the first proper books I read in English (not my native language). Then I got challenged by my English teacher to read the rest of the books too, so I read book 3 through 7 as well, having already read the magician’s nephew in my native Swedish. It was a good series to read at twelve years old. Certainly there were some words I didn’t understand, but it wasn’t too difficult and the story was very engaging. Definitely the book I most enjoyed reading of the ones school has mandated I read.
@Blixthand
@Blixthand 3 жыл бұрын
That, and also I think it got some success from a mix of actually being a pretty good adaptation, and it coming out at a good time. It was only 2 years after Return of the King and the same year as the fourth Harry Potter movie, but before both Eragon and The Golden Compass released and got criticized both as adaptations by fans, and as movies trying to cash in on the last remains of that initial LotR hype.
@Blixthand
@Blixthand 3 жыл бұрын
@@tovekauppi1616 I never had to read Narnia in school in Sweden, but I'm now studying to become a teacher and LWW was part of our YA Literature course as university. I'm definitely going to use it myself when I graduate and start working. If the school I work at don't have a full class set I'll just get one for myself. Wouldn't mind paying for 30 paperbacks of that book if I could teach a book I love (if I think the kids would like it too).
@katelafontaine7119
@katelafontaine7119 3 жыл бұрын
Will Poulter's eyebrows were the real standout character. Also, I totally did not even notice Caspian's accent. Its amazing what a few years of college in another country will do to you.
@williamnissen5083
@williamnissen5083 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly thought they got a different actor because there was no accent and he looked different
@pwlpc
@pwlpc 3 жыл бұрын
In the German dub it's super confusing because the voice actor sometimes voices Caspian normally and in other scenes with a Spanish accent. There's no consistency.
@Acidfrog475
@Acidfrog475 3 жыл бұрын
Even as a dragon they stand out on his face like a sore thumb. Or, sad thumb, I suppose.
@valentinarunko67
@valentinarunko67 3 жыл бұрын
"The show that's the personification of that one friend who has always read the book". 😄 And we love it. 💙
@buriedtakethewheel2646
@buriedtakethewheel2646 3 жыл бұрын
Not only was I not bothered by the lack of an overarching plot in this book as a kid, it was actually the Narnia book I gravitated towards the most. So many images from The Dawn Treader are embedded in my mind forever: Lucy's mermaid friend, Reepicheep leaving on his lonesome journey, the slave market, Eustace peeling off his skin to become a boy again, the stars, the gold statues in the lake who are actually people... There's something truly magical and evocative about this book that captured my imagination in a way the more well plotted and consistent books in the series never quite managed.
@jazzy4830
@jazzy4830 9 ай бұрын
Honestly I remember very little about these books but Eustace tearing off his own skin to return to humanity sticks with me to this day. It's a very typical religious act of penitence, mortification of the flesh to redeem your sins like flagellants, and then be born anew.
@sawanna508
@sawanna508 8 ай бұрын
I loved that book too. Althought the advantures are compeltely different it sort of reminds me of oriental tales like Sindbad the Sailor or Myths about Alexander The Great.
@Mobysimo
@Mobysimo 3 жыл бұрын
I personally always saw Tilda's cameo here as set up for the Silver Chair. The bad guy of that book is the Emerald Witch, who uses mind control to take over Caspian's son with the goal of taking over. I always got the feeling they were setting up that the White Witch somehow reincarnated as the Emerald Witch and the mist was her experimenting with her new magic
@bennusmagnus5277
@bennusmagnus5277 3 жыл бұрын
I had the same feeling. I'm sure she would have also been the satan cameo in the last battle as well.
@ArrowOdenn
@ArrowOdenn 3 жыл бұрын
The BBC thought so too. The same actress plays The White Witch in TLTWATW, an Old Hag in PC, and The Lady of the Green Kirtle/The Emerald Witch in TSC.
@lovableasshole
@lovableasshole 3 жыл бұрын
@@ArrowOdenn I would argue it was less intention and more working with the same small pool of British actors. The recycling of talent happens a lot.
@tracyroweauthor
@tracyroweauthor 3 жыл бұрын
@@lovableasshole I'm a huge British tv fan (I'm American) and I love playing spot the actor. I think almost every Brit actor has done a cameo in Doctor Who at this point.
@juliamorton3438
@juliamorton3438 3 жыл бұрын
My thoughts as well. Not in either film adaptations, but I also think of Jadis as the same. I think it makes sense when you look through the lense of eternal struggle of good and evil, and while there may be many forms its all that same root evil. Loved how well the bbc actress played the role (my childhood) and also loved how Tilda did so in the disney adaptation.
@douglasfreer
@douglasfreer 3 жыл бұрын
Another name for the entire Narnia series: Lion Jesus and the True Believers Lion Jesus and the True Believers Return Lion Jesus and the Odyssey Lion Jesus Goes to Scotland Lion Jesus and the Noble Savage Lion Jesus Begins Lion Jesus and the Apocalypse
@Ugly_German_Truths
@Ugly_German_Truths 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty good, just needs more Qui Gon to be perfect :D
@ikiry0830
@ikiry0830 3 жыл бұрын
I'd honestly call 'Lion Jesus and the British Occupation of Ireland'.
@Japaneseanimeguy
@Japaneseanimeguy 3 жыл бұрын
You're forgetting the first book. And possibly the horse one that takes place before the epilogue of the second book with a boy meeting Queen Lucy.
@Healermain15
@Healermain15 3 жыл бұрын
@@Japaneseanimeguy That's the True Believers and Noble Savage one.
@Iris_1217
@Iris_1217 3 жыл бұрын
@@Healermain15 And then he turns out to actually have been white all along. So it's the Narnian equivalent of a captivity narrative.
@SpellboundWolf
@SpellboundWolf 10 ай бұрын
The pool of water that turns anything & anyone whom it touches into gold scared the fucking shit out of me as a child. I haven't seen this adaptation, but I remember the cursed water from the book.
@erinhaury5773
@erinhaury5773 3 жыл бұрын
"There was a boy called Eustace Clarence Scrubb, and he almost deserved it."
@Dr.PicklePh.D.
@Dr.PicklePh.D. 2 жыл бұрын
I love that line so much. Short, to the point, and funny, yet it contains absolutely everything about the character without telling you literally anything but his name and the author's opinion on it.
@susanowen1709
@susanowen1709 Жыл бұрын
Someone on Tumblr pointed out that the "almost deserved it" line was pretty rich coming from someone named "Clive Staples Lewis." No wonder he went by his initials instead.
@silverharpist51
@silverharpist51 Жыл бұрын
This actually was Lewis taking a crack at himself, as Eustace was based on child Lewis. He did not think much of himself as a kid.
@susanowen1709
@susanowen1709 Жыл бұрын
@@silverharpist51 Oh, now that's a cool bit of trivia. I had no idea he'd based Eustace on himself, but on reflection it makes total sense. Thanks! 🙂
@sawanna508
@sawanna508 8 ай бұрын
In my German translation they didn't include a middle name.
@evgenkhersonets880
@evgenkhersonets880 3 жыл бұрын
While this movie was a dissapointment, I find it interesting that they were setting up a witch from Silver Chair with this green fog thing. I mean, it is obvious that that creators wanted her to be responsible for this.
@Heothbremel
@Heothbremel 3 жыл бұрын
Yesssss that was a nice touch
@just-trying-my-best-everyday
@just-trying-my-best-everyday 3 жыл бұрын
I went to watch this movie in cinemas, I'm an avid book fan and I never ever noticed that. Holy shit, I'm so dumb.
@crocuslament9680
@crocuslament9680 3 жыл бұрын
Okay but that would have been *awesome* and I wouldn't have nearly as many complaints about this movie if they'd ended up doing that. She was probably my favourite Narnia antagonist in terms of powerset, and it would have been really cool to see her use those powers outside of like... one or two chapters of the book. The idea of her trying to get Edmund, Lucy and Caspian under her thumb and then failing only to try again with his son would have made nine year old me fangirl so hard.
@roselover411
@roselover411 3 жыл бұрын
After all, we didn't even know her name was Jadis until she becomes the emerald lady in Silver Chair.
@izzisart
@izzisart 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, that makes so much sense! I would have liked to see that.
@just-trying-my-best-everyday
@just-trying-my-best-everyday 3 жыл бұрын
"Oh wowzers, hello Mr. Barnes." Mood.
@Revan498
@Revan498 3 жыл бұрын
I strill wish "The Horse and His Boy" had gotten an adaptation. I would have been happy with just an animated film 😟
@pyroshayniac1090
@pyroshayniac1090 3 жыл бұрын
I know exactly how you feel, I want to see Aravis on the big screen.
@SuperSongbird21
@SuperSongbird21 3 жыл бұрын
I think it would be very difficult to get it made without potentially offending Middle Eastern people (and changing the Calormen characters too much would make the fans mad)
@tracybartels7535
@tracybartels7535 3 жыл бұрын
I love that one now, but agreed it would be a tough sell and a cultural mess to make it properly and respectfully. Also, on the monetary front, each of the first 4 films has a connection to a past one, even if it's just Eustace. For that reason, THahB was a challenge for me as a young reader (approximately aged 10), and it took years for me to grow into it (TSC was a stretch as well, but I really enjoyed the kids in it). That said, I absolutely loved VotDT, and it was strange to hear the thematic issues during this video, when to me it was such a lovely voyage and redemptive arc and I liked it almost as much as LWW and MN even more than SC.
@Nortarachanges
@Nortarachanges 2 жыл бұрын
@@SuperSongbird21 , think asking middle eastern writers and director to adapt it would work? Horse and His Boy is my favorite too, and would love to see it however it needed to be changed
@LinguaPhiliax
@LinguaPhiliax 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to have seen The Magician´s Nephew been made into a film! Every time I see the colours yellow and green together, I think of the rings.
@johnoneil9188
@johnoneil9188 3 жыл бұрын
Caspian:"The woman I love turned into a star and returned to the heavens." Eustace:"That´s rough, buddy." I had no idea that there were seven books, that is quite the series. It would be cool to see videos about them too at some point, even if they never got adapted.
@ndemers
@ndemers 3 жыл бұрын
They're very short but quite enjoyable, if you can tune out Lewis' unsubtle religious messages, or his occasional soapbox rants about how This Modern World Is Going To Hell In A Handbasket
@lucie4185
@lucie4185 3 жыл бұрын
The last one is pretty wierd even for Lewis.
@MtnNerd
@MtnNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Magician's nephew is pretty cool It tackles the origin story of the white witch
@cityman2312
@cityman2312 3 жыл бұрын
@@MtnNerd It retcons it a lot, but it is improved.
@namechanged1
@namechanged1 3 жыл бұрын
@@ndemers If you do that you might as well not even be reading them.
@momegranate5115
@momegranate5115 3 жыл бұрын
Disney: You couldn't live with your own failure. Where did that bring you? Back to me.
@nuffin7411
@nuffin7411 3 жыл бұрын
More like a cursed item that returns to your shelf overnight after you throw it out.
@jinxtheunluckypony
@jinxtheunluckypony 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone after Caspian makes a pass at them: “I don’t want to live on this planet anymore.”
@alanpennie8013
@alanpennie8013 3 жыл бұрын
Narnians be crazy.
@xwraiths
@xwraiths 3 жыл бұрын
I've always found the series dying here, right before the marvelously dark and weird Silver Chair, and inventive as all hell Magician's Nephew, to be one of the great tragedies of my teen years. At least I still have the books!
@abv9118
@abv9118 3 жыл бұрын
Eustece actually getting to do stuff as a dragon was my favorite change in the adaptation. Not gonna lie.
@Teag_Brohman15
@Teag_Brohman15 3 жыл бұрын
if they played He's a Pirate over certain scenes, it becomes blatantly obvious which film franchise they were trying to be *this time.*
@ribbonsofnight
@ribbonsofnight 3 жыл бұрын
it's not like the source material doesn't give them a push in that direction
@chaonis24601
@chaonis24601 3 жыл бұрын
Profile pic checks out
@amiefortman7220
@amiefortman7220 3 жыл бұрын
I should have expected the "Life of Brian" clip, but the *choice* of clip had me rolling. XD
@The-bi5ry
@The-bi5ry Жыл бұрын
Lucy was actually my favorite character growing up and when she was told she couldn't come back, the pain and confusion I felt as a 13 year old was way too much. I cried so much at the end of the movie.
@andrewlivingston1590
@andrewlivingston1590 3 жыл бұрын
That unknown story in the spellbook is supposed to be about “a cup and a sword and a tree and a green hill”. That’s all Lucy remembers. Could it possibly be the story of the holy grail?
@spilleren9173
@spilleren9173 3 жыл бұрын
Holy heck, Lewis predicted Monty Python and the Holy Grail
@Alias_Anybody
@Alias_Anybody 3 жыл бұрын
@@spilleren9173 You made me laugh out loud.
@Anna-tk7ui
@Anna-tk7ui 3 жыл бұрын
@@spilleren9173 all that's missing is... A shrubbery!
@Salsmachev
@Salsmachev 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if that tracks beyond the cup. Maybe the broader Arthurian legend though. If the cup is the grail, the sword is Excalibur, and the hill is Avalon. I'm still not sure what the tree is then, though. A tree and a cup suggests Christian imagery of Eden and the holy chalice, and maybe the hill could represent Golgotha/the passion? But then again I could as easily say that it's a Tolkien thing and the sword is Narsil, the tree is either the party tree in the Shire or the White Tree of Gondor, and the green hill is Bag End. Except that he's suuuper into allegory, I'd almost say that it's meant to invite association with great stories we're familiar without adhering strictly to one specific story, but I don't think that can be right given his disposition as an author.
@xRaiofSunshine
@xRaiofSunshine 3 жыл бұрын
@@spilleren9173 BAHAHAHAHA
@FlyingScott
@FlyingScott 3 жыл бұрын
The image of a dragon wobbling towards an intruder and instantaneously dying of old age is even more hilarious when you consider this series of books went up against a series where the dragon instantly realises someone even has the intention of taking something from the hoard and burns down a village for the heck of it.
@zaphodbeeblebrox7893
@zaphodbeeblebrox7893 Жыл бұрын
Say whatever you want about the movie, but the sea serpent has one of the coolest monster designs I’ve ever seen. The bit when it splits open absolutely terrified me as a kid
@chasewighton4064
@chasewighton4064 3 жыл бұрын
When I was recovering from emergency surgery right at the end of high school, completely out of it on pain meds, I could really only read children’s books so I re-read Narnia. Voyage of the Dawn Treader became my absolute favourite, one of my overall favourite books, and remains my number one comfort book (along with a little book of the collected poems and songs from LOTR) that I return to when things are rough. I knew no movie could really translate the book well to film because of its episodic nature and no real antagonist. I don’t like the mist or what they did with Lucy and the end from the three sleepers onward was underwhelming. Edmund is my favourite Pevensie so I appreciate that they tried to expand his role, but as you said, it was a bit confused, though executed much better than what they did with Lucy. When the movie sticks to the book, I think they did a great job, especially visually and design-wise, which is even more admirable given the budget constraints. I wish it was a bit more colourful, but overall I think they managed to capture the feeling of magic and discovery, for the most part. The biggest issue I have with the book is the way Lewis deals with the slavery plot. It’s bad, pretty racist, so as much as I like Caspian’s bluff and replacing the governor, I get why the film may have decided to settle it with a sword fight instead.
@caseyoung1527
@caseyoung1527 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review! But I have to ask, what made that part of the story racist?
@InfiniteAnvil
@InfiniteAnvil 3 жыл бұрын
Dawn Treader was my favorite Narnia book as a kid, specifically because it did read like a series of short stories. I can't help but think that this would have worked way better as an episodic TV series/miniseries. Although keeping Eustace as a dragon was definitely the way to go. I was so sad when he got transformed back in the book.
@Acidfrog475
@Acidfrog475 3 жыл бұрын
It was such a boring transformation as well. He just exposition-dumped the whole thing, which deeply annoyed me.
@TEO.187
@TEO.187 3 жыл бұрын
Same! I really liked that because it was the format that the Wizard of Oz books used and they were my favorites
@nirellediamond
@nirellediamond 3 жыл бұрын
Dom: Will Poulter and his hypnotic eyebrows. Me: *falls out of chair laughing*
@nickmanzo8459
@nickmanzo8459 3 жыл бұрын
I actually really liked Dawn Treader (the book). It’s an awesome road trip story, even if the going to Heaven literally stuff is kinda weird. I loved the fact that they went all the way into some really different territory, and it was all very fun and different. Sure, there’s no character arcs, but it was just a good story.
@mkzbylo
@mkzbylo 3 жыл бұрын
Dominic swooning over Ben Barnes was so good I had to replay it.
@cordeliacullen2621
@cordeliacullen2621 3 жыл бұрын
“Why? Because fuck you, it’s Narnia!” made me lol. Honestly, the Narnia timeline is so fucked, it makes no sense. Ya just gotta roll with it. I honestly enjoy the book series so much, but the 2005 Lion, Witch, and the Wardrobe is truly the best of these films. I love the BBC miniseries for it’s derp factor 🥰
@NeroCM
@NeroCM 3 жыл бұрын
Personally, after the Journey of the Dawn Treader the series lost ALL of its appeal for me. The silver chair was a confused mess, and the final book was weird in the extreme. Compared to the pacing and characters of the previous books, especially the first and second, the last 2 were rushed and absurd.
@haku8135
@haku8135 2 жыл бұрын
Scientifically speaking it's actually consistent by being inconsistent. It's a different universe so giving it an irregular time flow is entirely fair. Time being less fixed in Narnia compared to Earth is a pretty interesting concept...... too bad it's really just a gimmick here.
@newlywedbeth
@newlywedbeth Ай бұрын
Probably because of Psalm 90:4 and 2 Peter 3:8
@Igorcastrochucre
@Igorcastrochucre 3 жыл бұрын
For anybody wondering if you think you saw Eustace's actor somewhere before, he's the guy from the meme that says "You guys are getting paid?"
@sarahgent2674
@sarahgent2674 3 жыл бұрын
Also he was the blond guy in Bandersnatch iirc
@M.M.Y.B
@M.M.Y.B 3 жыл бұрын
and he was in mazerunner i think
@TheNumnutRandomness
@TheNumnutRandomness 3 жыл бұрын
Also has an uncanny resemblance to Sid from Toy Story XD
@KeithFraser82
@KeithFraser82 3 жыл бұрын
He was also in Katherine Bigelow's Detroit playing an evil cop, and one of the hapless victims in Midsommar.
@artisbot1122
@artisbot1122 3 жыл бұрын
He also plays Andrew, Anthony, and Abraham in Dark pictures little hope.
@jamesatkinsonja
@jamesatkinsonja 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to hear you do a video on the 'non-adapted' books-even if it's just short 'five minutes on each book' looks at them-always interesting to hear your analysis.
@saraquill
@saraquill 3 жыл бұрын
For whatever reason, as a kid I kept pronouncing it “Dawn Treeder.” The habit stuck.
@Acidfrog475
@Acidfrog475 2 жыл бұрын
I had a hard time figuring out how to pronounce Eustace properly.
@roselover411
@roselover411 3 жыл бұрын
O.O I literally didn't realize Caspian was the same actor. They looked very different to me and the accent change had me thinking they recast him!
@olessiatchijova8605
@olessiatchijova8605 3 жыл бұрын
It’s the scruff 💕 Ben looks completely different with and without it
@roselover411
@roselover411 3 жыл бұрын
@@olessiatchijova8605 The scruff looks very good on him though. 10/10 would recommend
@chriswestergaard4506
@chriswestergaard4506 3 жыл бұрын
I genuinely wanna see Dom talk about the other Narnia books even if the film adaptations stopped here.
@EliasAxelViking
@EliasAxelViking 3 жыл бұрын
Have you made an lost in adaptation of stardust? I love the book and the movie, it's so charming. And to keep the train going, Ben Barnes is in it!
@lunapond7652
@lunapond7652 3 жыл бұрын
I really liked this movie when I watched it as a kid, I was pretty surprised to find that so many people didn’t like it, though i really agree with your points of the character arcs because they did seem a bit off to me even the first time i watched the movie and i think your points are very well stated
@tomlinson1710
@tomlinson1710 3 жыл бұрын
I like it too
@chance757
@chance757 3 жыл бұрын
if you’re taking suggestions, i’d love to get your opinion on outlander one day. i think it would be hilarious lol.
@daniellado2523
@daniellado2523 3 жыл бұрын
That would take so long because of how many books are in that series and it is still going. But if there are any other youtubers that have reviewed those books please let me know.
@chance757
@chance757 3 жыл бұрын
@@daniellado2523 i know but even just one season would be good enough for me :)
@AllDaGoodUsernamesWereTaken
@AllDaGoodUsernamesWereTaken 3 жыл бұрын
YESSSSS
@ArrowOdenn
@ArrowOdenn 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video! No word of a lie, the only thing I remember of the film adaptation is Caspian's accent change. I grew up watching the BBC adaptations, with my personal favourite being The Silver Chair, so if you do ever cover that I am here for it.
@lunaraindrop
@lunaraindrop 3 жыл бұрын
I need this in my life
@MtnNerd
@MtnNerd 3 жыл бұрын
So when they adapted the first book I was already wondering how the heck they would adapt this one with its very weird metaphorical ending.
@MoonKent
@MoonKent 3 жыл бұрын
Will Poulter was absolutely my favourite thing about the this movie, and the fact that the series stopped here and he would not be Eustace in future films was my greatest disappointment!
@cholten99
@cholten99 3 жыл бұрын
It's 35 years since I read that book and Aslan peeling off Eustace's skin is still forever seared into my memory.
@0FynnFish0
@0FynnFish0 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see you found a use for that dress from pride and prejudice again.
@MissSHUTurMOUF
@MissSHUTurMOUF 3 жыл бұрын
Considering ben barnes was in stardust and was the main characters dad does that make him the daughter of the star's grandpa, which makes him his own grandfather in law?
@lightknight6749
@lightknight6749 3 жыл бұрын
So weird...
@lizzyvally6076
@lizzyvally6076 3 жыл бұрын
Thats some futureama levels of shit right there
@deeviousrat
@deeviousrat Жыл бұрын
voyage of the dawn treader is my favorite book solely because of the opening line. i also watched the movie before reading the book, so i think i cried laughing at the literal first sentence. will poulter knocked it out of the park, he's so expressive. ben barnes is super easy on the eyes, too. not my favorite narnia movie, but still one i always come back to for comfort and for the laughs.
@packman2321
@packman2321 Жыл бұрын
Bit of a weird opinion, this was my favourite Narnia book. For a while it was my favourite book. I've always had a love of stories where characters travel from cool place to cool place having adventures but don't actively end up destroying or staying in those spaces (Alice in wonderland, Over the garden wall that sort of thing) so getting to see it in Narnia was always incredible, I think the voyage to the end of the world also just appealed to me and locations like the mermaids civilisation or the sea of Lilies didn't have plots but where memorable enough to imply other possible huge stories and adventures out beyond the story.
@Painocus
@Painocus 3 жыл бұрын
My main issue with the book is that it hinges on just expecting the reader to consider being turned into a dragon to be a bad thing.
@RaggedToothRat
@RaggedToothRat 3 жыл бұрын
It's been a while since I've read the book but I seem to remember the issue being that Eustace the dragon was too big to fit on the ship and they didn't think he would be able to fly far enough to reach the next island. The crew had a dilemma of whether to hang about and find a solution while their supplies dwindled or leave a young boy/dragon behind to live out his life alone.
@user-uu2cj9ct3j
@user-uu2cj9ct3j 3 жыл бұрын
@ Raggedtoothguppie Yep! That’s exactly right :)
@Painocus
@Painocus 3 жыл бұрын
@@RaggedToothRat Unless I'm forgeting something obvious there was no explaination for why they couldn't send a bigger ship for him later (beyond him being sad and them not wanting to leave him).
@Jozabad329
@Jozabad329 3 жыл бұрын
@@Painocus If I recall correctly they were pretty far from Narnia, in fact, they were discovering the islands as they went by.
@hhoi8225
@hhoi8225 3 жыл бұрын
Context is everything! Eustace didn't deserve to be a cool dragon, anyway.
@MarquisdeL3
@MarquisdeL3 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see the old BBC miniseries. That was my childhood.
@angrynerdgirl
@angrynerdgirl 3 жыл бұрын
Same! It was my introduction to Tom Baker, too.
@scfeng6883
@scfeng6883 3 жыл бұрын
When I was a child, I loved Dawn Treader BC it had more adventures than it’s predecessors. I loved how it expanded the universe and allowed all the characters to have their moments. Also, so many Reepicheep moments!
@tanmaytikle8521
@tanmaytikle8521 Жыл бұрын
I personally loved the bond between the Mouse and the Dragon in the film It was very wholesome ❤
@mathieuleader8601
@mathieuleader8601 3 жыл бұрын
in the DVD commentary Actually the emerald mist is actually made by the antagonist in the next movie the silver chair Lady of the Green Kirtle
@fantasyfiction101
@fantasyfiction101 3 жыл бұрын
That would have been cool foreshadowing if they ever got to the movie.
@emilyrln
@emilyrln 3 жыл бұрын
That makes me kinda sad… I liked Silver Chair. Jill Pole and Eustace Not-a-Ponce-Anymore ftw. Also Puddleglum could be hilarious at times.
@choronos
@choronos 3 жыл бұрын
Have any of you fine people ever watched the BBC adaptations of the Narnia books? They did the Silver Chair. Kid me is pretty sure it was awesome, but I'm not sure how it would be for adults. Still, might be worth checking out if you haven't seen them. Edit: I've just watched a clip from Silver Chair, and it's uh...well it exists. If you're a Doctor Who fan, Tom Baker plays Puddleglum, so there's that.
@ItsYaBoiV
@ItsYaBoiV 3 жыл бұрын
I had a huge crush on Edmund's actor, Skander Keynes. Apparently I've got a thing for dark-haired, broody types, because now I'm mooning over Loki again...
@MissJanePilato412
@MissJanePilato412 3 жыл бұрын
Might I entice you to a morally grey hottie played by Ben Barnes?
@ApequH
@ApequH 3 жыл бұрын
How about General Kirigan?
@line_vondensternen337
@line_vondensternen337 3 жыл бұрын
I know someone who fits that description perfectly ... *cough* the Darkling *cough*
@insignificantramblings
@insignificantramblings 3 жыл бұрын
This is a callout
@MADEbySOUL
@MADEbySOUL 3 жыл бұрын
My friend has the same thing for Cole Sprouse and Sebastian Stan.
@holytankadinSabelane
@holytankadinSabelane 3 жыл бұрын
The Magician's Nephew was always my favorite! I have never seen an adaptation of it
@unfabgirl
@unfabgirl 3 жыл бұрын
The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe was the first Lost in Adaptation I ever saw and now we have come full circle. I admit, I have a soft spot for this movie. It might just be where there is a noticeable difference in this one versus the other two, the amount of times I watched it as a kid, or even just how sea stories and swashbuckling appeals to me more than fantasy war movies do. Whatever the reason, I quite enjoy the movie, despite how much it differs from the book. I would definitely change a few things, but I still enjoy it. And thank you for giving it a fair shake. It is definitely the weakest of the trilogy of movies and it is so easy to hate on, but you still found things to enjoy in it and your enjoyment of the content you discuss always brings a smile to my face, which has been needed after the last few days. I don't know if you'll read my comment or even get this far if you do, but please know that you are a wonderful entertainer who never fails to cheer my day.
@christicrochets9011
@christicrochets9011 3 жыл бұрын
Still hoping one day the Dom will do a synopsis of all of the Peter Pan adaptations and lore.
@christinekirby1
@christinekirby1 3 жыл бұрын
That would be so interesting!!
@qwertyTRiG
@qwertyTRiG 3 жыл бұрын
@@christinekirby1 Including the play and the stage musical?
@christicrochets9011
@christicrochets9011 3 жыл бұрын
@@qwertyTRiG Oh yeah baby. Everything. He did that with Phantom of the Opera once.
@christicrochets9011
@christicrochets9011 3 жыл бұрын
@@christinekirby1 Right??
@christinekirby1
@christinekirby1 3 жыл бұрын
@@qwertyTRiG yes!!
@thereseboegel8296
@thereseboegel8296 3 жыл бұрын
I really want you to review the rest of the books in order. I loved them as a kid and still have a soft spot for them as an adult. I also have trouble explaining to some people that although Magician's Nephew takes place before The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe you absolutly should not read it first.
@DerplingKing
@DerplingKing 3 жыл бұрын
The Magician's Nephew is absolutely most effective as a recontextualization of everything preceding it.
@Mary-lr8ln
@Mary-lr8ln 3 жыл бұрын
as a child i was very big on reading things in order apparently and no adult told me what order i *should* read narnia in...so i read Magician's Nephew first. Confusion ensued.
@whatername528
@whatername528 3 жыл бұрын
@@DerplingKing Yes, getting to the end of the Magicians Nephew and realizing how it all tied back into TLTWATW was the best. Publication order all the way.
@werelemur1138
@werelemur1138 3 жыл бұрын
I think the set I had as a child had it as the 6th book?
@tanukimika
@tanukimika 3 жыл бұрын
I had a huge book that collected all the seven books in chronological order instead of publication order and boy oh boy was I confused
@1993digifan
@1993digifan 3 жыл бұрын
I would LOVE to hear your thoughts on the BBC versions. Hopefully, Netflix will finally get around to making the series, completing the entire septology, and someday you can review them.
@nolanmcbride5653
@nolanmcbride5653 3 жыл бұрын
I remember watching this movie in the theater with my church youth group. My take away was that the changes from the book put a bigger emphasis on the theme of temptation in the book, which I hadn’t picked up on as much when reading it. I also remember hearing (I want to say on the DVD commentary) that the change to give the story a main villain was also supposed to help it tie more into The Silver Chair. I’m kind of sad they didn’t get to do the rest of the series, but oh well.
@sashy7360
@sashy7360 3 жыл бұрын
After Disney bailed I was quite glad to even get another Narnia movie, especially bc this one was my favourite book. I was just disappointed to not hear the Narnia theme music.
@kennethgdula712
@kennethgdula712 3 жыл бұрын
The costuming and set designs are my favorite parts of these movies. honestly wish It was socially acceptable to tunics, armor, and open carry a sword.
@andurilcuivie
@andurilcuivie 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, if only.
@elsie8757
@elsie8757 3 жыл бұрын
It is if you're not a coward! I literally bought a cape a few months ago
@quixoticraven4242
@quixoticraven4242 3 жыл бұрын
Well, you can do the tunic part. You just have to get used to people staring a bit. Or if you can find a place like a Renaissance Fair you could do all three.
@AnamFatima
@AnamFatima 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, the costumes for the whole series were absolutely gorgeous, my favourites were Susan's gowns in Prince Caspian. They let Susan be feminine and badass archer at the same time, really the best example of women's armour is in a children's film. Their costumes look quite comfy as well. I would love to wear Lucy's outfit someday.
@chadfalardeau5396
@chadfalardeau5396 3 жыл бұрын
I just want to open carry a sword
@ButterflyBadassUke
@ButterflyBadassUke 3 жыл бұрын
I sincerely hope that the chain of 'Lost in Adaptation' staring Ben Barnes continues in the link of the 'Shadow and Bone' adaptation review because this series absolutely deserves your attention.
@samanthatroi85
@samanthatroi85 3 жыл бұрын
"Hello my beautiful watchers" hits me right in the core.
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