The Wait is Over! Gen-3 is OUT! - First Testing & Impressions

[@MattVidPro]

JOIN ME FOR A LIVESTREAM TOMORROW WHERE I GEN YOUR PROMPTS! kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5zWdnSoa7KFmZI&ab_channel=MattVidProAI

[@LouisGedo]

👋

[@ThymeHere]

Will if I remember! :3

[@willbrand77]

Hollywood artists breathe a sigh of relief. Safe for another day

[@Diogo85]

AI Tools will never take jobs.

[@설리-o2w]

Cope more. 😂😂😂

[@pragmata7997]

yes, gen 3 is pure trash lol

[@fluid1614]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@qwax]

The state AI is in right now, nobody has to worry. McDonalds recently dropped the AI from their ordering. LLMs hallucinate way too much, and the text to image and text to video stuff isn't even at the quality it would need to be. Also, most of the time, they don't follow directions exactly. But all those unskilled chuds on Reddit who thought they would be taking jobs and all of that learned a hard lesson. "We are the movie producers now!", "Artists will become irrelevant!". Yeah. They should just get a life.

[@vomm]

Really disappointing. Yeah the quality has improved but the prompt understanding is still absolute crap, it ignores like 90% of my instructions. And you cannot import images so .. yeah .. you can make fun little clips by accident or whatever but I would not know how to be able to get what I have in my mind with such a bad prompt interpreter.

[@RockyBergen]

Luma is *slightly* better imo.

[@pragmata7997]

@@RockyBergen kling is the king

[@dhruvmehta2377]

Yeah but I think it'll improve with the upcoming versions its too early to judge imo

[@blisphul8084]

Try using Gemini to refine the prompt.

[@imeaniguess.6963]

⁠​⁠@@dhruvmehta2377Is that not our hope with EVERY release of EVERY model. They just want to monetize so they put out junk before it’s ready like tooncrafter, and the rest of them.

[@BuildNRoll]

conclusion : let's wait for GEN-4

[@pragmata7997]

nah, runway will always be behind everyone else, lets wait for sora 2 or kling 2 or midjourney video model

[@boya8719]

​@@pragmata7997bro it's in alpha version wait fro the to release full version

[@overflood]

its like runway is running away from being competition

[@salegjdd5693]

It's useless, and its not free

[@justinwescott8125]

Real question. What am I supposed to do with this? The footage is unusable except to look at and say "wow, neat". I'm not going to pay $15 for 60 seconds of semi-coherent video that isn't even what I asked for.

[@firefox8713]

I am not paying just to just to test out the alpha version as well

[@matiascoco1999]

We are getting so used about impressive things that we can’t see the potential of this things. This is a peace of engineering art. We should appreciate it a little more

[@DFortuna]

⁠@@matiascoco1999then be an investor.. but consumers have a right to point out the flaws. So for now I’ll appreciate from the sidelines

[@chancemcgee5731]

1.Music Videos 2.Sci-Fi Documentaries i.e UFOs, Paranormal, Ancient History 3.Educational for kids 4.Shits and giggles

[@HikingWithCooper]

@@matiascoco1999 "Potential" is great if you're not paying. I get that it's alpha but I paid $25 and didn't get a single gen that followed my short prompt.

[@sneedtube]

Come on Matt, it's utter shit and you know it

[@endoflevelboss]

Haha 🥳🎉

[@pragmata7997]

pure trash

[@fl1ntlock1]

I never sub to this weirdo I don't know why I'm getting his notifications his videos suck

[@TimTruth]

Seems like another let down vs the teaser videos they've been putting out

[@MattVidPro]

cherry picked examples for sure...

[@tentzz]

For sure

[@IPutFishInAWashingMachine]

Can't forget the "the first thing you're probably wondering about is safety" thing in that reveal trailer💀

[@iamisobe]

yup it's trash i cancelled my sub already, not only did almost 100% of my video get falsely flagged, the few that did work couldnt of been farther from the prompt. Im aware how to use these tools as I have over 100k generations in midjourney alone and know how to prompt Ai properly.

[@steeleforce13]

Smh you wont be missed just like anyone else who cries or troll over everything. Just let me know when you create such a device. I will cry beyond science..​@@iamisobe

[@FrotLopOfficial]

"Imagine being able to play a video game where what you see is generated in real time". This is exactly what the CEO of Nvidia says is the future. Pixel by pixel generation processed by a GPU, no game assets, pre-recorded audio / video. Purely generated and I assume also stored in the background in case you wanted to "play" that particularly generated game, given each new generation would likely be wildly different and any story line would be also wildly different.

[@bloxyman22]

I honestly do not agree that this is the best we have access to. I feel like we got in general alot more coherent and usable shots with Luma from what I have seen so far. It seems you can get some really good shots that look better than Luma, but those seems so incredible rare that there is no way you could do that without a unlimited plan and alot of rerolls. What I hope is that Kling releases their model to the world soon, as that one actually seems to be alot better than both of these video models.

[@hunte0r]

I love your channel. I have been following you for years, and the thing I love most is that you are always quick to post news and always put links in the video description.

[@gwart41]

Luma has a huge advantage, being able to import midjourney/dalle images. Both are extremely expensive.

[@ProdByGhost]

its not an advantage...runway jus hasint released it yet as u can see its in gen2 that img2img in gen 3 will be insane. if their text2img is lookign this good.

[@gwart41]

Then ill just have to wait the exorbitant prices until that feature is released! Then I can do comparisons of animated images. Would be an excellent test.

[@pragmata7997]

kling > all these shitty shits

[@maxington26]

Luma just added uploadable start and end image frame too. It interpolates from A->B. I've tested it a bit today and it's quite interesting.

[@e.v.k.3632]

This is very disappointing when you see the ad for it Especially when it's so damn expensive

[@user-on6uf6om7s]

I've been getting some great generations but the pricing is rough, nearly $15 for a minute of footage if everything you get is usable which is unlikely unless you get a more expensive plan or subscribe for a year.

[@businessmanager7670]

get a more expensive plan which allows unlimited generations

[@asdf30111]

@@businessmanager7670 Or wait for it to get cheaper, or if you wait long enough, maybe in a few years you might be able to run it on personal hardware like you can with image gens.

[@user-on6uf6om7s]

Yeah, for serious aspiring AI filmmakers, the unlimited plan isn't bad but at the cost of multiple Adobe subscriptions, it's not really approachable for someone not in the industry.

[@thedorbrothers]

Thank you so much for the shoutout Matt! 🙌

[@oculicious]

Every MAttVidPro video summarized: "Hey guys, this is one of the most important releases ever, this is gonna change the world forever!" *spends 15 min demonstrating how absolutely horrible the AI software is*

[@mahavir8148]

Still useful to watch

[@NakedSageAstrology]

I think it would be interesting to use a suite of a.i tools. Train a GPT on 3D objects, and use another GPT trained on skins and textures and use another GPT trained on animation. Put them all together and automate anything.

[@VaibhavShewale]

waiting for open souce community to build up something to beat it

[@cbuchner1]

Instructions - if only it was able to follow them…

[@blisphul8084]

I wonder if using Gemini 1.5 Pro can fix the prompts to get better results?

[@SuppanReviews]

Thanks matt for not making the screen move while you hover your mouse. Thanks for listening. You can still zoom in just don't make it dance according to your mouse movement :)

[@MattVidPro]

:)

[@Kaotonix]

I've not only been testing gen-3 but as a producer and artist have been using it for real world purpose and content. My most recent music video I made cost me $30 and I think for the first time ever in ai video creation it's finally worth it. I'll be using it more if anyone wants to follow along on my channel

[@cesar4729]

It's a trend to release semi-usable things, probably out of fear of the implications. Note that no closed or open source model (Stable video) has released the video to video function, although it is by far the most useful thing they could do.

[@ThomasJDavis]

Video-to-video would allow you to basically input short scenes of an actual movie into the model and recreate a full movie in another style. Like a CGI version of a live action TV show. That could be a copyright issue.

[@maxington26]

Yeah that's an interesting point. You thinking things like instant deep-fakes etc.?

[@cesar4729]

@@maxington26 Sure. Furthermore, a video is the most versatile guide with fewer variables to compute, but looking at the examples I suspect that not even OpenAI AI has given common testers access to this option.

[@CapsAdmin]

It really looks like this is mostly trained on stock videos and struggles to extrapolate beyond that. The alien handshake a perfect example. It's like it has never or rarely seen a handshake that isn't an extreme close up of two business men making a deal with a handshake, so all it can do is sort of overlay that video, or at least if there are 2 close up hands in the scene already, it cannot resist making them do the handshake.

[@patrickzupanc1795]

Great video, thank you!

[@JohnLewis-old]

No image to video testing yet?

[@hypercoder-gaming]

By the way, the nuclear explosion in the hand was changed by Claude to a nova explosion to "remove explicit references to nuclear weapons"

[@jonidimo]

Is there any "video model" available for download and local execution, something like Ollama but for videos, to download models like Llama3 (Sora), Mistral (Runway), etc.? I think the ideal solution would be an animation app that uses these models to create motion interpolation and provide more control.

[@darkregentt]

You need to upgrade to try it unfortunatelly

[@aiartcreation223]

Yeah it's bullshit tbh not to mention I heard its not even that good and most of the videos were cherry picked

[@jmd489]

It's worth the $15

[@hipjoeroflmto4764]

​@@jmd489didn't look worth 15$

[@aiartcreation223]

@@jmd489 ion know it seems like cherry picked the videos so idk if it's worth the $15

[@pragmata7997]

@@aiartcreation223 its pretty bad actually

[@LilBigHuge]

The left and right hand shaking XD

[@Naterion]

LOL Matt it's so funny when you mentioned generating video game frames in real time because we already have that with RTX DLSS xD

[@vomm]

DLSS is not generating frames it's upscaling frames.

[@SW-fh7he]

​@@vommnah, it's generating extra frames between the already existing ones.

[@Agispsi]

But its not really generating a new frame from scratch to produce the next thing seen in scene, its just interpolating between 2 frames. Very different. One has no limits to what it could generate, the other is just filling in gaps. ​@@SW-fh7he

[@maxington26]

frame interpolation/upscaling isn't the same as real-time video generation

[@rogercls]

It seems they couldn't have enough GPU power for a wide audience to use at the same time and get great results, like the ones they showed before.

[@BroskiPlays]

Gen 3 disappoints already, who wouldve have thought

[@kevinsm2039]

Another few more months just wair

[@BroskiPlays]

@@kevinsm2039 sora will be the number one

[@businessmanager7670]

In what way? explain

[@pragmata7997]

@@BroskiPlays nah, sora is outdate already we need something actually good, maybe a midjourney video model or pika 2.0 idk, but lets wait

[@TaskSwitcherify]

There should be a series of standard tests like walking, playing soccer, jumping, fighting, catching a butterfly, etc

[@ddiva1973]

This is really exciting!!!

[@comicipedia]

There is competition, You seem to be forgetting Luma Dream Machine. That seems to produce very similar quality videos

[@MattVidPro]

I personally have found luma to be worse in most cases

[@bloxyman22]

Quality seems a bit less in the best examples of cherry picked generations they showed from runway, but overall in real world usage the coherency of Luma seems alot better. Even with the free 30 credits i got at least a few good generations that did what I asked it to generate.

[@pragmata7997]

gen 3 is trash man

[@bloxyman22]

@@MattVidPro It is easy to say when you have unlimited credits as a partner. The average joe gets only 12 5 seconds generations per month for the paid plan. With luma i get more than double that for free and with image 2 video as well as being able to extend videos further than 10 seconds max. You showed off more generations than we get to play with using the standard plan and I did not see a single clip that was good enough to be used for anything and you did not even show us the worst generations.

[@MattVidPro]

@@bloxyman22 I showed you every generation that I made. I PAID for the mid tier plan.

[@JhonataCosmo]

I will wait the image to video feature

[@HikingWithCooper]

Gen 3 is great if you're happy with whatever it makes. I ripped through a whole month PLUS paid-for added gens. Not one gen followed my prompt. I put 'treehouse' in the prompt 3 times and one only appeared in about 1/10 of my gens. I put in low-angle camera and it sometimes did that, sometimes did birds-eye. $25 and I didn't get a single gen that showed a treehouse at a low angle. I think it would help if they used a form rather than plain English. I tried LTX studio and it was 10x better. Photoshop-like fill and erase, automatic updating of the image, tons of free gens. The resolution is pretty low but then so is Runway.

[@maxwell-cole]

That alien handshake 😂 is still cracking me up. Awesomeness. The 2nd one was nice too. Great hand nuke too. Great experiment.

[@ThomasJDavis]

Is it really better than Luma Dream Machine tho? I think it's on par.

[@qwax]

They are about the same. People say Luma is the best but you might get 1 okay generation out of every 10 generations you generate on Luma. Luma's pricing is also a mess.

[@ThomasJDavis]

@@qwax I think the image-to-video feature really improves it. Runway Gen-3 needs that.

[@qwax]

@@ThomasJDavis Nah. Luma's image to video feature is mediocre. Believe me. I've run a ton of gens. I haven't tried Kling AI. I'm sure IMG to VID is coming. They probably released gen 3 to counter Luma because people are acting like Luma is this perfect thing when people who have used it will tell you, you get more bad generations than you do decent ones.

[@ThomasJDavis]

@@qwax I've used Luma as well. Image-to-video creates much more consistent and coherent animations as long as there aren't thin, long objects it has to animate. Same goes for Haiper and Runway Gen-2.

[@EROSNERdesign]

uh... it aint free to use

[@A_Me_Amy]

what do you think of the monoliths when you consider AI? And other news things, like... other things...

[@Retro_Movie_Rewind]

It seems like the video quality keeps improving but the AI's ability to generate what we ask for is stuck in a rut. I'm waiting for Runway to add image to video with Gen-3 but I'm sure the experience will be as frustrating as it is with Luma Dream Machine. At least Runway has an Unlimited plan (for $$$).

[@raybod1775]

If ‘AI’ simply pulls stock footage and puts it together everything would look better.

[@GreenAppelPie]

I tried it, it’s far too restrictive

[@blisssenseripzyzz4evermiri176]

I haven't try the paid version of luma, luma or gen 3?

[@qwax]

The "paid" version of Luma is exactly the same as the "free version" which is just credits they give new people. The problem with Luma is their pricing is ridiculous. If you aren't on a paid plan you can only generate 5 creations a day due to demand, other then that, no difference between paid and the credits they give you. The people complaining probably use a VPN and just keep generating trial accounts on Luma.

[@maxington26]

@@qwax You say the pricing of Luma is ridiculous, because the free plan is slow? That doesn't make any sense! You get over 10 mins of gens in Luma for $30. You get just over 60 seconds in Runway 3 for $15. You do the math(s)

[@qwax]

@@maxington26 Bruh, with Runway you can just pay the yearly or monthly unlimited and just make as much as you want. Do the math bruh.

[@NoCodeFilmmaker]

If you use a workaround, you can actually use Kling as of today. I believe Kling was the top Sora competitor. Best part is, as of now, you can generate for free. Only drawback is that it's mobile only and you have to use a translator if you don't understand Chinese.

[@SpaceyBlurr]

I make video art for over a decade and have the unlimited plan. I was able to prompt mind blowing video art styles in live visuals and vjing all day, insane visuals that I’m really into personally. I am also a music artist working on a new music video and I was able to generate the scenes that I needed for my music video.

[@GoldBearanimationsYT]

Pretty poor results imo

[@TeaganTurner]

Yeah this is not what we thought it would be.

[@PrinceCyborg]

Can't wait for Sora

[@manonamission2000]

lol... Ilya left OpenAI

[@PrinceCyborg]

@@manonamission2000 Ilya work in the the safety department

[@gregorymehlhose1441]

The prompting coherency is awful, but the quality is pretty good

[@InternetetWanderer]

Kling seems to be better!

[@TomiTom1234]

It requires Upgrade. I can only use Gen-2 for free, but 3 isn't free. Is this the case for everyone ? BTW, LUMA does better job by generating videos and it is free right now.

[@qwax]

LUMA is free until your burn through your credits.

[@maxington26]

Runway 3 is paid access only atm, for anyone, yep.

[@Blooper1980]

This requires camera movement skill

[@jamesjonnes]

You can iteratively rate each generation for Claude to give better prompts.

[@desoconnor7445]

The undeniable Emperor of Emperors with new clothes .

[@CarlosRodela]

can use it for as many credits as you have tho.... contemplating the unlimited option

[@cesarsantos854]

It is pretty impressive and disappointing. It is really incapable of understanding a bit more complex prompts.

[@A_Me_Amy]

the future of indie horror videos, games and other things is legit.

[@WayOfTheZombie]

I'll bet sora comes out real soon. Or they wait to hear a little feedback on Runway G3

[@qwax]

Hold your breath and see how soon Sora comes out.

[@lzmihich]

If open AI releases Sora , and you can have access to generate videos at fair price, Gen 3 will lose strength!

[@luizmihich2706]

I am so happy, that I've subscribed, and I can't wait to try it, Thanks for testing it and reviewing it for us !! I tried twice, and guess what? No more honey because Gen 3 Alpha is extremely expensive to subscribers, fair warning ! and I had to upgrade to Pro, to have a taste of it, and, summarizing, prepare your Wallet.

[@thomalex8932]

It's too much money for what you get. How many credits does each request take?

[@Soundpaintmusic]

Not sure you are right about the pricing. There are several AI companies starting to crackle - because its far too expensive running models versus their income (Stable Diffusion for ex). If anything it may actually become more expensive - as newer models will be far more expensive to train and that's not accounting for how much it costs to render each shot. We shall see.

[@nicomediaSu]

I respectfully disagree that there's no competition in this space. While Runway Gen-3 has its strengths, it may have limitations for certain creative purposes, especially without image or video input. Kling offers some interesting features, including image-to-video capabilities, and it's publicly available at no cost. Based on the footage I've seen, I'd suggest that Kling might even have some advantages over Sora, particularly in terms of reducing visual artifacts like morphing effects. And as we know, Sora is still not available.

[@reifuTD]

I hope you test some anime style generations tomorrow, So far I've seen a few Gen 3 attempts at anime and it seems to have a style that different from Luma.

[@reifuTD]

From what I see is the videos look good but Gen 3 has a real lack of understands what's it's doing so it has a hard time giving what's asked. Also they don't' seem to have Image to Video up yet?

[@ImNorman]

Much better than Gen 2, but comparing quality, and what is available, Luma Labs looks better to me.

[@gregorymehlhose1441]

In the alien generation the forest looks great.

[@RMCanimationOFFICAL]

That’s so realistic. But I can’t use Gen 3 alpha because it wants me to buy some plans but I don’t have my OWN money for this. That’s cool!

[@WayOfTheZombie]

$144 per yr. Well worth it! Wish you got more gen seconds tho😢

[@lomio7250]

I like how the lady of the Sora demo became a reference, while Sora may be a horrible AI video generator as it hasn't been released yet. I wonder how do people who know how good Sora is are feeling. Of course I don't know, and Sora might be great, but I'm just thinking...

[@qwertyuiop3656]

"A machine here!"

[@orionconstellation2]

its good to generate story

[@GaryJr530]

🍋 bout to watch rn 🍿

[@Family_Guy_12]

do luma vs runway

[@skits972]

Oh well, I guess we'll all just need to wait a few decades for Sora to be public instead

[@nickgirdwood3082]

Which generators have people used to make the stuff I've seen all over KZbin? The Family Guy shit and all the trippy AI fever dream videos? Pooky Park? Whenever I generate an AI video, it's not that great. Which website or tool?

[@ppgf]

really? 1st time? and Luma?

[@pedxing]

does not seem like the Sora kids need to be worried about ANYTHING from Runway

[@qwax]

The Sora kids that will never have access to Sora? You know they probably cherry picked the very best videos and Sora probably isn't that great. OpenAI loves to hype stuff up.

[@manonamission2000]

ilya left OpenAI... you really think Sora will see the light of day?

[@qwax]

@@manonamission2000 I mean, one only has to look at a random Stable Diffusion discord to see what the majority of those chuds are using it for. I wouldn't release it either. These are the people are giving AI as a whole a bad rap. AI will never be praised for all the good things its doing but you sure here about all the bad things people are doing with it.

[@MemePopperz]

FINALLYYY!!! IT'S OUTTT!! gen 3 probably the best ai video generator right now, thanks Matt for reviewing it i cant wait to try it out 😊 EDIT: IT IS NOT FREE!!! wish it was free for all to try out...so disapoointed ....

[@Im_that_guy_man]

toooooooo expensive!!!!

[@ragemax8852]

I do like it but their business model is awful, as this is quite expensive. For those of us who generate hundreds and maybe thousands of images a month know that it takes a lot of generations to get this AI stuff right. To only generate 10 images a month under the most basic plan is just not going to cut it. Not even close for us! The videos look amazing, still really buggy and the prompts are inaccurate, and they have no image-to-video like Luma does. I think we're at the point now where the community should get to it on a local offline version like Fooocus and Stable Diffusion to help us generate these videos.

[@Someone7R7]

It sucks

[@stephenkamenar]

this thing is trash at listening to your prompts. looks pretty high quality though

[@FLEXTORGAMINGERA]

Ok I'll wait for it to get better ... Not buying rn

[@thegreatdelusion]

12 dollars a month for 62 seconds of video? laughable

[@reifuTD]

I don't like any service where you can use up all your credits in a day and tell you to come back next month. I want daily credits with stuff like this

[@thegreatdelusion]

@@reifuTD seem like a bad business model to me.

[@pragmata7997]

62 seconds of pure trash and inconherence

[@reezlaw]

12 dollars a month if you pay for a whole year upfront. Monthly it's 15

[@ragemax8852]

@@reifuTD Exactly, there's no way we should be paying that much for only 10 videos a month to generate that aren't even longer than 10 seconds. I need the offline local designers to step up and make their own Gen 3 and Sora AI for us, so we don't have to pay for anything.

[@nickgirdwood3082]

That Minecraft generation makes me want a Minecraft-like video game that's real-looking. There kind of are some, but Rust is apparently filled with dickheads, and Rising World is almost impossible to play once you find a tiger.

[@GaryJr530]

That stinks you have to have an upgraded account to try Gen 3 😢

[@guepardiez]

10:54 The left hand has 8 fingers, no less.

[@mediastreamview9528]

Try prompting it, alien shakes hands with human. Let's see if it shakes it's own hand. : )

[@R123Productions]

LETS GOOOOO TIME FOR GEN 3 🙌🏾

[@SavageBro.]

It’s really sad. You can’t do copyrighted stuff.

[@criticalme1878]

Not very impressed. I would never pay for something that doesn't generate accurately.. Don't understand your excitement.

[@Prockski]

I just tried about 10 different generations and I am really not happy with my results. If it had image to video, maybe it would be better but the marketing results where HUGELY cherry picked based on what I am seeing pop out.

[@GlitchtubeMeme-mu7uq]

Bruh why is it not free

[@KonstantinDeak]

How can they charge for that? It's like going to a dentist and asking for a root canal and waking up with a boob job and dentures stuck to your forehead.

[@8eck]

Wait, but it is not free, it is under a paid subscription plan. 😅How it is then better than Sora?

[@I-Dophler]

Wow, those enormous eyes of yours are truly captivating! It's fascinating how they seem to mirror the vastness of technological advancements we're witnessing. Speaking of which, have you seen those mind-blowing AI-generated videos lately? They're not just impressive; they're revolutionizing the way we perceive digital content creation. The rate at which this technology is evolving is nothing short of astonishing. It feels like we're on the brink of a new era in visual media, where the line between reality and artificial creation is becoming increasingly blurred. It's both exciting and slightly surreal to think about where this rapid progression might lead us in the near future.

[@amsgamingandmusic]

The heck...

[@I-Dophler]

@@amsgamingandmusic Woo hoo.

[@amsgamingandmusic]

@I-Dophler First I was thinking that sounded ai generated. Now I'm confused. Well played 😘

[@I-Dophler]

@@amsgamingandmusic Dude, you are a fine young man.

[@amsgamingandmusic]

@@I-Dophler Aw, shucks...flattery won't get you anywhere 😅

[@gu9838]

lol random handshake

[@A_Me_Amy]

does anyone realize how much we will miss early ai and their thousand finger hands and other naturally sacary things? you will miss the fear.