The Walking Dead Iceberg Explained - 2023 Edition

[@thethriftytypewriter]

I just realized that I didn't even post a picture of the full Iceberg in the video... My bad! I just posted it on TWD's reddit the link is in the description if you wanna see it for yourself. Sorry about that!

[@sarahrogers1271]

Love the style and also your fashion style. Keep up the awesome videos man we all love your content!!

[@South_0f_Heaven_]

Only halfway through but great job with this video. I like your style of video better then the more popular channels and hope yours grows a lot more.

[@younow1511]

You’re a lot better looking than I thought you’d be lol 😂😂🤯

[@lucious1777]

Why did think the name said "The Thrifty Shoplifter" 😭😭

[@CM-bk8lo]

Not only will they have a romantic relationship , they will adopt a asian child and name him Glenn

[@johnbadman3340]

Morgan's line "people wearing dead people's faces" was just his response to seeing Rick, as he had convinced himself that everyone else dies whilst the weak people like himself live. When he calms down and remembers that he remembers Rick, Rick even says "I'm not wearing a dead man's face" Robert Kirkman hadn't even written the whisperers into the comic by the time this episode aired

[@ardartrin3769]

Still an amazing connection if you let out the facts

[@joeyhurts8572]

Uncanny

[@ThornedZ]

@@ardartrin3769 nah

[@RealDoobieScooby]

People just like making theory's lol I'm glad you said this though I was gonna comment something similar.

[@dziewiaty]

I think that theory came from the rumor Kirkman's Whisperers were inspired by that line and when after the years TV series reached that point people forgot what came out first.

[@Eliot_86]

I SWEAR if they make negan and Maggie have a ROMANTIC relationship I’m quitting twd. Even them becoming close friends is pushing it.

[@user-xf6pw9xu9t]

Yeah......

[@ImGoat1995]

I think that's why they had Negan suddenly be married with a child on the way. So that couldn't happen

[@Eliot_86]

@@ImGoat1995 I agree, I just don’t get how people can ship them when he killed the live of her life.

[@Relp7357]

@@Eliot_86 I think they just don’t really get the emotional impact that episode had. It’s more casual fans that ship them (that I see) and typically they skipped the entire all out war arc when it was on tv and just binge watched it quickly when it hit Netflix and didn’t watch it much. Which doesn’t matter but those are the types of fans I see shipping them.

[@themagnificentorange672]

@@Relp7357 Facts

[@paracetamolicecream]

The "everyone is hearing impaired" theory is actually very interesting because Daryl uses a crossbow so he can still hear well hence why he's one of the few original characters still alive. A pretty cool little detail

[@mrcheesemunch]

I think it's kind of dumb how often it happens in the show but then I regularly make my family members jump out their skin because apparently I'm as silent as a ninja and just appear behind people. It's overused but makes sense as well, if you're super focused on a task then the world around you gets shut out quite easily, it's what makes predators so dangerous because their prey is always paying attention to drinking water or eating while being stalked.

[@MIXI115]

its not daryls gun however, what about their other weapons? ricks gun? the gunfire of the commonwealth? the battle at the s7 finale? i think his hearing is impaired

[@morganfarrell2442]

I like that theory but bruv is blasting his eardrums every day with that motorcycle

[@robertcortez4956]

How are they not deaf by now? Guns are much loader than most people realize.

[@podomuss]

Everyone alive in the apocalypse has been alive since the beginning if they’re old enough, and most of them definitely didn’t use crossbows This isn’t a detail, it’s just a not very well thought out hypothesis Also even if he wasn’t the one shooting, he has still been around guns since the beginning, and also rides a fucking motorcycle

[@MistahJay7]

I'll be pretty disappointed if Rick never meets Negan again. It's one of my most anticipated moments

[@slenderslayer_]

I'm pretty sure they'll meet again...I'm also sure that Rick WILL fulfill his promise to Negan. Just like he did with Gareth at Terminus.

[@MistahJay7]

@@slenderslayer_ Why would Rick kill him? Makes zero sense That'll go againt Carls wishes and the way the group now does things.

[@Dom_Poesía]

@@slenderslayer_ Rick will 100% kill him. There’s never been a time where Rick said he’ll do something and doesn’t. Negan will most likely get bitten or something saving Maggie and everything will come full circle. Rick will be the one to put him down

[@slenderslayer_]

@@MistahJay7 Let's point to Gareth, Rick made him a promise that he would kill him with the red handled machete. He's told Negan on multiple occasions that while it may not be today...or tomorrow...but he's gonna kill him.

[@slenderslayer_]

@@Dom_Poesía Only person I feel like would make sense besides Rick would be Hershel Jr.

[@gemwilliams6486]

I think people read too heavily into the hallucinations characters have throughout the show. Hallucinations are actually a pretty common response to extreme grief and/or being in extremely high stress situations for extended amounts of time. Surviving the zombie apocalypse and watching your loved ones die in terrible ways completely explains why so many of the main characters experience hallucinations.

[@kaitlinsmith458]

Right! Thank you!!!

[@hitman19971]

Not to mention the fact that turning into a walker comes with an extremely high fever which also causes hallucinations.

[@nanaminsleepy906]

im impressed how people dont link that Daryl probably got heavily abused by his father and thats one of the reasons he distanced himself so much from relationships or physical affection related things

[@ct21070]

He was abused. He says it in one of the seasons when Merle is still alive

[@thisbeem2714]

@@ct21070yeah, and alludes to it with Lydia.

[@thisbeem2714]

I wonder that too. Seems so obvious. Then again, most folks don’t understand childhood trauma and how it manifests later in life, unless they’ve survived it.

[@vaughnteague2160]

10:49 At the CDC, Jenner stated that France had fallen as well, just that their scientists were the last to hold out and made the most progress before they ran out of resources.

[@tjlamb8065]

Not really just said they were the last to have communication and most likely Daryl will going there

[@topsdaily_productions]

In the webisode cold storage they mention China is still going strong

[@lapplandkun9273]

No, it's because they went dark, like the DCD

[@lapplandkun9273]

Hopefully if and when they actually get into china, it doesn't show them being overrun or at least holding out

[@Wikchsawa]

He didn't say that France fell but that he eventually lost communication with them meaning the same thing happened, but when they sent that announcement they probably were on the brink of collapse, or maybe not, it is not known yet, but the Daryl series shows a flashback of walkers on the streets so maybe they did that announcement when they were doing progress inside the locked facility?

[@JC-tq3ov]

In the deleted Vato's scene, Daryl actually notices and makes a point that it wasn't walkers and they were all dead from gunshots to head. Heard one theory that this was suppose to be an Easter egg/foreshadowing the Governor and his group. I think this would've been a pretty neat way to bring some closure to this early group.

[@Gibbypastrami]

Facts, this scene was going to happen when Darabont was still in charge, I feel like it could have worked well, have the helicopter crash, recover that army guy, governor goes to that base and kills everyone, later on we get a scene with our group where they discover the dead vatos, maybe they also recover a character or two that survived, maybe one of the guys we saw in the first season and a couple elderly, so we see like, the whole process really, the governor causing a disaster, infiltrating a group, taking them down, stealing their resources, and then see the metaphorical aftermath with the Vatos

[@kidnamedsolid3547]

It could have been Randall’s group from season 2

[@dollsteak020]

@@kidnamedsolid3547doubt that heavy tbh

[@dollsteak020]

@@kidnamedsolid3547only cus considering they dipped out at like the first sight of trouble when they ran into an asian kid a sheriff and an old man lmao.

[@kidnamedsolid3547]

@@dollsteak020 they only dipped because they were always travelling trying to find somewhere safe

[@Joe-mj3ik]

25:42 Daryl's bike does not uses common gasoline, it is ethanol, a fuel made out of corn or other materials of the same aspect. It is shown on season 9 at the Sanctuary that they produced fuel out of corn in exange for food. Also, Daryl was the leader of the Sanctuary for over a year, where he most probably learned how to make enough gas only for his bike, the equipment was probably at Hilltop after the Sanctuary felt.

[@JimBrodie]

Most definitely. He and Merle used to cook meth, so they definitely knew how to make moonshine and most probably did so. Fuel was definitely not an issue for people with the right skillsets. =]

[@lastrrr4134]

You're correct about Daryl's bike. They also explained that the Commonwealth was using ethanol fuel for their vehicles - so he could have taken fuel from there

[@Theagent47fan]

Gasohol can be made and it was popular in the 60-90s

[@lastrrr4134]

@@Theagent47fan That's true, but it would still require some kind of refinery - which we didn't see on the main show. In Fear they had a crude refinery to make fuel and the CRM would most likely have access to some kind of refineries

[@JimBrodie]

@@Theagent47fan That's pretty much what's being fed from pumps these days on my island, though at a much higher ratio of 95 petrol / 5 ethanol. Still, kinda the same. Would be fine in the first year, after that petrol would have definitely gone inert and new production or alternatives would have to be sought out.

[@VancouverbyNight]

It's hilarious that walker variants are like walkers that can climb and use tools, yet in the first few episodes they were concerned about them being able to climb after Rick and Glenn and one of them was even using a piece of concrete to smash the window of the store they were all hiding in.

[@starking2162]

The original writer who left after season 1, had the idea that some walkers maintained some sort of past memory or innate skill. Such as using a brick as a tool, or keeping an old toy/doll, or hypothetically climbing. A lot of that was scrapped when he left due to budget disputes with AMC, and he was very good friends with the actor of Dale, which had led people to think that dale died much earlier in the show vs the comics because the actor wanted to leave if his friend and the writer weren’t gonna be around

[@Seannosaurus]

frank darabont had huge ideas for the show before leaving after season 2 episode 1

[@frontiercomics]

​@@Seannosaurus*got blindsided and fired

[@anthonydomenico930]

Yeah n even talk in world beyond, negan. N Maggie's. I don't know how people don't notice the dead talking.

[@anthonydomenico930]

​@@starking2162you're just not paying attention. People giving visions. Jim season 1 talks to rick n end walking dead references jeep your eye on the boat. People have mint visions of the future or ways to get through things. Season 3 rick in prison phone calls. Because of the infection everyone is infected. World beyond sent out secondary extra brain activity virus ry to destroy the firing of the walker part in the brain CDC seaon 1. Walkers are now becoming smarter in last 2 seasons. World beyond coincides time wise. N walkers are talking.

[@fallgirl07]

“Space Spores” and “Duane Jones Whiskey” are both references to Night of the Living Dead movie. AKA, the birth of modern zombie lore. Duane Jones was one of the lead characters. That’s where Duane gets his name from on the show as well. Space Spores were the explanation for the zombies in the movie as well.

[@Chillibro456235]

100% explanation

[@lastrrr4134]

Correct about the movie references. However, Duane Jones was the lead actor.

[@MistahJay7]

Im 100% with Judith being Shane's daughter. It's just adds more to the story, her character and would explain alot lol

[@sourpatchkiiddoo1582]

It’s also genetically impossible for Rick to be her father cuz she has brown eyes and both Rick and Lori have blue eyes.

[@jimmydavo249]

Lori's eyes are light brown

[@copperwopper6429]

@@sourpatchkiiddoo1582 that's not how genetics work lol genes skip generations all the time. Either Ricks or Lori' s mom or dad could have had brown eyes. I have blue eyes and my dad's were brown and my mom's are hazel but my dad's dad had blue eyes

[@r.m2192]

@@copperwopper6429 Brown eyes are a dominant trait meaning if you have the gene your eyes are brown even if you haves the genes for blue and green eyes

[@copperwopper6429]

@@r.m2192 yes but you don't always get the gene. Sometimes genes skip generations

[@jjkilhij9531]

18:40 I believe it was confirmed by Greg Nicotero that while the walker DID eat Lori, it didn’t entirely consume her (bones and all). They basically wanted that dark insinuation while not actually showing her eaten corpse since they thought it might be a bit too much

[@themagnificentorange672]

Just rewatched that episode and its pretty sad for Rick

[@South_0f_Heaven_]

Would have been better to see a reanimated Lori then Rick shoots her in the head.

[@102-d7i]

It wasn’t as there was a deleted scene of Lori as a walker going into the prison when the Governor destroys the fence, it can be found on KZbin. (It doesn’t make sense personally as her walker couldn’t have got outside the fences without the group knowing)

[@South_0f_Heaven_]

How many undead and living children were smoked in the show? Rick smoked one in the pilot episode. Then again put down Sophia. Don’t forget Carol ventilated Lizzie as well. Doubt it wasn’t put in because “it would be too much”

[@devin2445]

@@102-d7i it was a hallucination from rick

[@Gaming_Antics]

The first variant was Morgan Jones’s wife. She turned the door knob on his house’s front door in season 1.

[@Curiousphy]

I feel like not enough people talk about this bc like climbing is nothing when I noticed that at first 😭😭😂 The only time I flipped was the whisperers since I never read the comics. Just like EXCUSE ME WHAT 😳🫣😭😭😭

[@luisraulraudales2468]

Actually it's the little girl in the literal first scene of the show, she bends down and picks up her teddy bear, it's insane how that never happened again

[@Curiousphy]

@@luisraulraudales2468 oh I didn’t even think of that!! There’s not a whole lot of kids that are walkers that you see though.

[@basaranowassahahno2353]

its not even Morgans house they just lived there after everything went down rick says that it belongs to people he knew before the apocalypse

[@americanloyalist4599]

I don’t really count the freshly turned as variants

[@everycrayfish1657]

Another things that you might have missed is that in an episode in season 10. Magna is listening to a song. The same song beta uses to get his hoard after alpha's death. This was nit only forshadowing for beta being a artist but it is the actor of beta singing a song from enily kinney, the actor of Beth, the turtle and the monkey.

[@christinunya72]

I think Aliesha from FTWD could actually be the key to a cure. She apparently didn't cut her arm off in time and was still infected, fought it for months and overcame it in the end. So shouldn't she have immunity in her blood now? I think we may see that further explored in the new season coming up of FTWD.

[@phusernamemythis9736]

What is FTWD

[@christinunya72]

@@phusernamemythis9736 Fear the Walking Dead

[@shanebender9919]

It was somewhat confirmed that it was due to radiation exposure and not immunity. This is based on the fact that June used radiation to try and stop the infection from spreading on Finch, and it worked for a little while. It can also be said that Alicia did die and that what we saw was kind of like a heaven scene. This is just a thought because when she "wakes" up, her face isn't tired and ugly and looks like pretty nice. Also, at the very end of FTWD, we see someone holding Alicia's makeshift hand, which I'm pretty sure she still had on her when she left the show. Also, PADRE tested Madison Clark's blood to see if she was immune and they found out it wasn't. Now Alicia could've had a mutation when she was born to make her immune but it's pretty likely that Madison would have been immune as well.

[@Absbabs88]

I mean, theoretically, all you just have to do is not die, right? It's not that the virus or whatever kills you, it's that it causes you to turn when you do die, bitten or not. That was the whole point of what Jenner said. People get infections all the time and don't die.

[@ZolaRenard_01]

​@@shanebender9919 So, they are basically saying Alicia is Lexa. "Oh yeah, Guys, btw don't forget Alicia is immune to radiation." 😂 Those amount of radiation should kill her already. The only reason she didn't was because she's immune to it 💀

[@nineofswords.]

Maggie also swings a bat at Glenn I believe or just has a bat as a weapon when they first meet her and I always thought that was pretty foreshadowy, and in season 5? When they go to Noah's neighborhood Glenn finds a collectable baseball bat. To me, any scene with Glenn and a bat is foreshadow/relating to his horrible death 🫣

[@codyrodriguez1056]

He uses a baseball bat in terminus

[@JJJBunney001]

I mean, that's not how foreshadowing works. Otherwise you can just say anybody that has killed has their death foreshadowed anytime they go near a gun

[@astro-zl5gq]

@@JJJBunney001getting killed by a bat is less likely to happen tho so it doesn’t prove your point

[@kathybazzano4996]

Actually, when Rick and Shane arrive at the farm with Carl who has been shot, Jimmy is the one holding the bat. :)

[@randallbesch2424]

See the comics.

[@lordfrieza1437]

I would also like to add another theory this one states that Abraham met Daniel Salazar (fear the walking dead) because in one episode we see Daniel talking about a "friend" who gave him a cigar telling him to save it for things get better who does that sound like. Also in one of Althea's stash of tapes you can see one labelled as Abe Ford/ doctor probably referring to Eugene and Abraham it is very possible that they were all together when Al interviewed them, and that place daniel had could be the one where abe got his truck

[@102-d7i]

That would be a solid theory however my main issue with that is this, would they really let Abraham and Eugene go on their own after knowing Eugene apparently knew the cure

[@lordfrieza1437]

@@102-d7i it is possible bc remember it wasn't just abe and Eugene in the beginning they had a whole group of people as eugene mentioned when it was revealed he lied.

[@randallbesch2424]

Those are all speculation not theories.

[@randallbesch2424]

@@102-d7i theories are proven otherwise it is just ideas and hypothesis.

[@Tofaonthesofa]

The theory about babies being in immune is awesome, but Maggie in the last season crosses a boy around Hershel’s age maybe even younger, and she refuses to kill him, but that would of been pretty cool

[@displl335]

he might have been talking about immune to not bite related death, maybe babies dont turn when killed by something other than zombies

[@chillin2906]

@@displl335 there would be no point to that except for the fact of the parents not having to kill their walker child 💀

[@PZY.Studios]

​@@chillin2906I think they mean like in womb

[@Jigglebaby]

Yeah but the walkers dont age do they so he could be older then he looks

[@randallbesch2424]

its an idea only. Only 1% of humans are naturally immune.

[@butofly]

the Brad Pitt example made me understand Negan's shock completely 🤣

[@Evanz111]

I only watched Wendigoon’s walking dead iceberg a couple of days ago, and I thought it was a shame that it didn’t include the more up to date information! So seeing this suddenly get uploaded on your channel was an awesome surprise :)

[@sarojandongol1482]

nice. i literally just watched that vid a few days ago too. probably how this ended up on my recommendations too.

[@Lilly8303]

Hallucinations are common after extreme trauma, so that’s why Rick has had them a lot. And Tyreese had them cause he was dying of a high fever, which can also cause hallucinations. So it’s just normal brain stuff I think.

[@South_0f_Heaven_]

Just to add on to the Merle/Breaking Bad connection. There was a theory going around for a long time that Walter Whites Blue Meth was the cause of the zombie apocalypse. Also Daryl said described Merle’s dealer to be a skinny white boy that always said “Bitch” like Jessie did in Breaking Bad.

[@jackmarshall3255]

I think that breaking bad does exist in the walking dead universe but it’s sort of like a parallel universe that way the events of breaking bad could still take place in the walking dead timeline without messing up the breaking bad timeline.

[@krinkle7695]

My only issue is how would the meth effect people who never used it? Like does it become airborne or something how would meth have anything to do with walkers?

[@chronos675]

Contagious meth xD

[@0v3rgr0wn]

Yeah but Daryl also added to the story that the dealer was getting violent and threatened to kill both him and Merle. Jesse didn’t take killing lightly, and he especially wouldn’t kill someone over some silly disagreement about a cartoon, no matter how high he was. It’s a fun theory though.

[@norbertbluhm6999]

There are even more EasterEggs/References to Bb in TWD that play into this legendary Theory. 1.After the first time Rick's Group attacked Woodbury to rescue Maggie and Glenn the Govenor than talked to Andrea about people getting killed and he said some names and one person was called Heisenberg. 2. Milton actually had the same coffee machine as Gale had in the Superlab in BB

[@irabeck]

I feel like the "Rick's group are the villains" theory is kind of a cop-out. It's a really basic idea that can be spun for almost any story. Obviously, if you view a protagonist's actions through their opposition's perspective, the protagonist will become more villainous. Although Rick's group certainly had lows, I don't believe they were anywhere as bad as The Saviors. Negan's people attempted to rob and kill Daryl, Abraham, and Sasha on the road before the satellite station. While Rick's group's actions were much more offensive than defensive, I don't believe they were outright villainy. Also, I'd like to add that most of the enemies of Rick's group do much worse things. I don't think Rick's group has killed or robbed very many people without cause but The Governor, Negan, and The Whisperers all have. Rick never destroyed people's homes over petty beef, he never had concubines, and he never beat his kids.

[@irabeck]

I'd like to clarify when I say "While Rick's group's actions were much more offensive than defensive" I'm referring to the attack on the satellite station.

[@merp9211]

I agree. Plus, Rick would never have slaves kneeling to him. ( They were slaves, because they weren’t allowed any autonomy and couldn’t leave without Neegan’s permission.) Neegan also had sex slaves. Rick would never iron a man’s face for sleeping with his own wife.

[@OboSoCool]

Yeah I feel this just makes Rick and the gang even more real, they were very misguided at some points and definetley did anything to survive

[@bakakagaku]

I think it’s pretty obvious that Hornsby was talking about different groups of smugglers or raiders that provide supplies that the Commonwealth can’t produce on their own. It’s confirmed that for years he was working with an outside group that grew opium as painkillers for the Commonwealth hospitals, so I think it’s much more likely that he’s referring to partnerships like this and not the CRM.

[@topsdaily_productions]

Then explain designation two

[@mangoismangois1672]

Dead city being set a couple years later really makes it look like Rick won’t reunite with the group because it’s just been too damn long I really hope he atleast gets to see them all again

[@invictus6176]

the time jumps are just insane. at first I didnt mind it but its mad crazy that theyve basically gone through more time jumps and years WITHOUT Rick than with him smfh

[@seansmith416ss]

They’ve also stated that both characters will regress. Negan will be big d*CK swinging savior personality wise. And Maggie will go back to hating Negan like she did before season 11. I honestly hope this isn’t true because this would throw away Negans whole redemption arc. And Maggie actually got a sincere apology from Negan and was somewhat okay with Negan living his life. Scott Gimple really sucks at writing characters.

[@invictus6176]

@@seansmith416ss I heard it was *something* like that and it honestly sounds horrible, I'm really hoping that they just worded it poorly and it isnt like that, im fine with maggie and Negan not getting along but hating each other or Maggie trying to kill him would be horrible writing wise unless we get some damn good wriitng to explain that which I doubt well get

[@seansmith416ss]

@@invictus6176 I agree. I just feel like Angela Kang handled Negan and Maggie’s arcs brilliantly. Negan got to have his redemption and Maggie got to find some kind of peace. To just regress both of those characters is a tragedy.

[@invictus6176]

@@seansmith416ss fo sho not to mention all the weirdos wanting Negan and Maggie to get together, Like I get that yeah they have Chemistry between the Actors since they work really well together but cmon man how tf do they expect that shit to happen with Negan literally bashing her husbands face in smfh

[@sylyvesteri]

Rick and Co didn't attack first. Saviors were planning to rob and kill Daryl, Sasha, and Abe on the road. As far as I see it they already knew that the saviors were trouble, but they really went over their head attacking the satellite station.

[@bigc4751]

I’m not sure but I don’t think any of th saviors knew about Daryl Sasha and Abe blowing up those saviors

[@sylyvesteri]

@@bigc4751 Jesus or Gregory proposed raiding the satellite outpost. They explained it was saviors, to which Rick responded that they have ran into them before.

[@misslane89]

No they weren’t. The saviors confused Daryl, Abraham and Sasha for Dwite and the two girls. It was not meant for who actually was shot at.

[@thotrot8262]

35:14 in season 11, during a scene in the train tunnel/train car after gages death, maggie talks about an encounter she had with a man who kidnapped women and one of those women was implied to have a zombie baby inside her. There’s absolutely some possibility that people will eventually become immune at some point but by the start of season 11 it doesn’t seem like that’s the case. Unless they retcon it like everything else lmao. Also of note that Lori directly mentioned a fear of that happening to herself before she died as well. Doesn’t directly fit into what I was saying but there’s at least two separate instances of babies being implied to become walkers.

[@elziaelma2327]

I will add a third instance (even if it's not in the main show), with Fear season 7 ep 3. The people Morgan meats after crashing the car, the ones who tried to kidnap Mo, they explain that their baby died of the radiations and it's heavily implied that the baby turned into a walker in the luggage, according to the noise we can hear and the reaction of Morgan - even if we did not see it. And considering the timeline and the size of the lugage, and how according to their reaction Mo should be around the same age, it's also pretty clear that this baby was conceived and born after the beginning of everything

[@connorhilliard5508]

i honestly wish they did a murder mystery arc at the prison with axel as the murderer. it would be more interesting than the infection plotline of season 4a

[@metalmayhem6663]

100% agree. If I remember correctly, in the comics, once the group reaches the prison one of its inhabitants is a serial killer and kills 2 of Hershels daughters. Way more interesting than some sort of illness

[@handsomeman9433]

@@metalmayhem6663the illness arc was fantastic though, 4x05 was brilliant!

[@metalmayhem6663]

@@handsomeman9433 oh don't get me wrong season 4 is my favorite season but I felt the illness storyline was kind of weak towards the end of it. Started strong but ended kind of weak

[@handsomeman9433]

@@metalmayhem6663 felt like it ended more in its climax! I can’t say weak, rather abrupt

[@seansmith416ss]

They needed a way to send Carol away so she could save everyone from Terminus. Cause literally if Carol wasn’t there our group would have been killed.

[@restingturdle]

As for the Morgan seeing whisperers, I believe his exact quote was “people wearing dead people’s faces” I think at that point Morgan assumed Rick would be long dead and that he was hallucinating whomever had captured him to be Rick.

[@gRinchY-op5vr]

Yeah I assumed he was talking about walkers or hallucinating people being walkers/walkers being still alive

[@eblckmn]

24:22 I have been saying this! Their death is all because she scared that boy who was already skittish. She got the whole family killed just so she could make him go away and leave her alone

[@Jay-okc]

I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST ME WHO FELT THAT WAYY!! Carol is a low-key sociopath, but nobody’s gonna talk about that though 😭

[@thatboyandhismusic88]

The babies being immune thing could be a possibility. In Fear the walking dead a character has a still birth, and we never see it turn, but that could also just be due to the episodes tone changing drastically if they actually went through with it.

[@thomasanderson4853]

No there was a baby walker in a suitcase in Fear after the nukes hit that Morgan puts down.

[@lastrrr4134]

@@thomasanderson4853 Correct! The baby's parents were the ones trying to take baby Mo.

[@randallbesch2424]

Babies get their immunity from their mothers both inside and outside the womb. Mother's milk has the necessary immuno constituents.

[@jjkilhij9531]

13:30 apparently it was confirmed (I believe by Chandler Riggs) that the two alternate combos that were filmed were Maggie & Aaron (which we have the Maggie footage of) and Eugene & Aaron (which we have no footage of)

[@jjkilhij9531]

38:14 It was actually confirmed by Gimple to be a very neat coincidence, The Whisperers didn’t exist in the comics yet (episode came out in 2013 and the Whisperers didnt come till 2014)

[@South_0f_Heaven_]

Maybe Kirkman got the idea from the show or vice versa Kirkman told them in advance what he was planning to do in the comics.

[@denisucuuu]

@@South_0f_Heaven_ Or maybe not.

[@South_0f_Heaven_]

@@denisucuuu perhaps

[@Tyler-uz1ci]

yeah i always just liked to think of it as morgan just knows every living person will be dead at some point so everyone is just dead to him. Lennie James played crazy so goddamn good i didn’t think he literally saw a lot of the stuff he said

[@TheNightCrawler84]

My favorite TWD iceberg theory is The Whole World is Haunted. The theory is the walkers are trapped souls on earth, but not only are the walkers trapped souls it’s everyone. All the hallucinations and supernatural things are characters see and hear are souls stuck in purgatory. This theory is far better explained in Wendigoon TWD iceberg, please go watch it!

[@baptisteharrington9053]

For Invincible's references, there was also an episode where Carl was reading a comicbook entitled Invincible when he was hanging out in the forest with Enid

[@krinkle7695]

I believe Judith is Shane's daughter, remember when Rick was having that dream of Shane in season 9 and they mentioned she had his nose but thank God she didn't have his ears

[@ford4793]

I thought Morgan says "People wearing dead peoples faces" in response to rick trying to show him who he was and trying to get Morgan to remember him. And Morgan said that as a way of saying "Rick probably died you're just pretending to be him"

[@alistertowelie]

judith is 10000% shane's daughter. season 1-2 takes place over about 2 weeks at most. there is no possible way rick is the father

[@Mrcreate21]

21:50 Andrew Lincoln said he suggested an ending to the walking dead where he fell off a bus into a horde of walkers but they all went past him as he was immune and Robert kirkmam said he liked the idea

[@Relp7357]

I believe the line was something to the effect of “France was the last to hold out” or something like that implying that France fell but held out longer than most if not any other countries.(Regarding the France entry around 11 minute mark)

[@AsianSatire]

The babies are immune one actually makes a lot of sense but seeing that the virus only started around 20 years ago maybe that's not enough time for anything to evolve. But this may explain the time jump, maybe we'll see babies at the CRM who are immune and being tested on.

[@Blurryjay]

Congrats on your milestone!! I just joined the party not to long ago, but I have to say you sound extremely sincere and I get how it might have not felt that way in front of a camera but you just pushing through 3 years doing content you enjoy and getting to make a passion job out of it. Massive props to you! Appreciate the work you put in :D

[@Blurryjay]

also im glad to see and hear youre not getting shafted as hard by youtubes algorithm these days.

[@thethriftytypewriter]

Haha thank you very much! I’m glad to hear it because I really am super appreciative of everything that you have all given me and there’s no other words that you can say other than thank you and it feels like so little. And yeah it was a long road to get here but perseverance and passion always win out in the end.

[@Blurryjay]

@@thethriftytypewriter yessir! So glad you stuck through it! Selfishly cos now I got your videos to keep and staying entertained when my fiancé makes me cook 😂😭❤️ much love brother, can’t wait for the twitch and also just high key videos like this, unscripted Esq. absolute bangers too in my opinion!

[@chasingstars4]

25:06 when it comes to Duane Jones' whiskey i think it could just be a reference to the actor Duane Jones (who Morgan's son's name is based on) as he played the main character Ben in the 1968 Night of the Living Dead film, and that inspired many zombie films to come, including twd

[@juicewar3805]

This man so confidently said “Giancarlo Esponosa” so many times and didn’t even bother to check it’s hilarious

[@WillyMammoth7]

Morgan seeing the Whisperers is my favorite theory in TWD. Sadly it's not true because the Whisperers weren't even written in the comics at the time the episode came out, but it's super cool to think about. I also love the theory that the helicopter voice is actually Victor Strand from FTWD. I can't hear Giancarlo's voice at all, and the more I listen to it, it sounds like Strand. Would be a perfect connection between the two shows if it was Victor working for the CRM.

[@thethriftytypewriter]

I agree! I secretly hope Robert approved that line with the whisperers in mind 😂

[@NotRxsario]

Does ftwd get better? Im on s1 e3 and it kinda sucks so far

[@NotRxsario]

@@thethriftytypewriter Does ftwd get better? Im on s1 e3 and it kinda sucks so far

[@thethriftytypewriter]

@@NotRxsario I stopped watching after season 2. Just never really got my attention.

[@WillyMammoth7]

@@NotRxsario I think it does! Season 1-3 were great, but 4 and 5 kinda sucked. But season 6 is amazing, and 7 wasn't as bad as people say it was.

[@likonet5033]

The fact that you use The Quarry menu theme for the intro of the video gives it extra point ✨️

[@chrisdcrus5404]

If Rick is for whatever reason immune then this would make Jadis decision very interesting indeed. She lied a said rick was a B instead of an A to save him being experimented on she did this because she said she owed it to him. If she had said he was an A then he would of ended up in the Laboratory and they would have discovered him immunity! Also very interesting because she’s sparing him from being experimented on but un knowingly going against the human race by not finding a cure. She’s owes rick true but could save the world by choosing him to be an A!!

[@dollsteak020]

idk i rlly hope they don't make him immune. i always figured the lettering was something about personality traits/personality types.

[@divinehorror2543]

I took it as A and B was male and female People smugglers would have very different motives for women vs men, and they specifically asked for whatever Rick wasn't because Jadis had to tell the pilot she lied

[@hummushero9428]

They actually called them Rotters quite a bit later in the series, I think that’s what the people in the commonwealth call them.

[@westonmeyer3110]

The governor in Woodbury called them that. The commonwealth is a callback to Woodbury.

[@hilltop9524]

There's background story of the Governor being in Atlanta shortly after the Vatos encounter Rick and the group had and Governor most likely wiped them out as they had tons of supplies.

[@AL_145]

Maggies death leak came right up on youtube. I remember watching a video something about how they couldnt have Lori's skeleton on television so they had to shoot the scene the same as if her skeleton was there.

[@Rickyg4]

The whisperers hadn’t been created yet in the comics by the time Morgan said “I see people wearing dead peoples faces” so some people believe that line may have inspired Robert Kirkman to have the idea of the Whisperers

[@felipegimzap]

You mention that in most zombie movies they refer to the dead as zombies but that's not true at all.. it's a running theme in zombie movies to avoid saying "zombies." That's part of the joke in Shaun of the Dead when they say "We're not saying the zed word." In TWD they call them walkers, geeks, or whatever as a way to play on this theme of "not saying the zed word."

[@chewy99.]

I do hope the vatos gang comes back one day. Would be very cool to see the leader who was helped by Rick in the beginning maybe paying back the favor and helping Rick.

[@Jay-okc]

They got killed by another group. It was a deleted scene .

[@chewy99.]

@@Jay-okc Well obviously if they deleted the scene they decided they didn’t want that to be what happened to them. If it wasn’t in the show it didn’t happen.

[@bigstevedzn2353]

@@chewy99. I mean it’s included in the box set I believe as an extra scene, but it’s best to just assume it’s canon because it’s also the most likely outcome for them.

[@lapplandkun9273]

@@chewy99. It was implied the governor and his group killed them in the deleted scene. Honestly pretty dumb and the start when TWD went off on a killing spree for any OG from season 1-4

[@user-cy6zq9oj4w]

i always interoperated morgan saying “people wearing dead peoples faces” as he saw people he used to know who he had already convinced himself were dead, including rick

[@Nate-ue8zs]

22:42 For the vatos, the deleted scene was mentioning how humans were the ones that killed the vatos. Later on, we see that the governor is in possession of the vatos's bag of guns, which further insinuates the governor took out the vatos.

[@lastrrr4134]

The Governor was able to get the gun bag because Andrea took it when the farm got over run.

[@EJPugh1331]

Glenn's death was also foreshadowed in Noah's house. I think the Clark family is immune and will play a big role in "The Cure" storyline especially with the leaked footage we saw recently. I also think the voice in the Chopper could be Strand which fits better in the universe and has Rick on Morgan's side more.

[@Jay-okc]

How would that work though? Isn’t Fear set at least 8 years behind TWD? I don’t know for sure, cause I haven’t watched fear so my question was genuine.

[@EJPugh1331]

@@Jay-okc They weren't that far behind the season 6 finale of fear was supposed to be the exact same time the bridge blew up with Rick So currently fear is about 6 to 8 years behind. Season 8 of Fear is gonna time jump to catch up to season 11 of TWD.

[@Jay-okc]

@@EJPugh1331 ohhh. I’m seriously contemplating watching Fear. I rewatched TWD to the point where I literally can’t stomach it anymore, and we’ve got a long while until Dead City comes out,

[@TheMelancholicWriter]

That chopper guy sounds nothing like Strand though… his voice is very deep my guy.

[@lastrrr4134]

@@Jay-okc They stated that Fear is going to have a 7 year time jump this season (which would put them approx. into the Whisperer arc timeline of the main show

[@Idk-dc7hv]

This is just my theory, it probably isn't true, but I think an in-universe reason for a bunch of characters having hallucinations might be because everyone is infected, and maybe like the walker virus affects the brain while you're alive, which could maybe explain the hallucinations

[@dngrouscrgo]

The Lori’s body one was explained by one of the producers IIRC. In one shot you can see a blood trail leading to another room implying her body was dragged off

[@chewy99.]

34:15 No, babies and people born years into the apocalypse are not immune. In Fear The Walking Dead a guy choked a baby to death to make it stop crying so walkers couldn’t find them, and it turned and him and his wife kept the zombaby.

[@EvanReichert]

I mean I don’t believe babies r immune. But what u said doesn’t mean babies aren’t immune. The baby didn’t die from a walker bite. It died from being strangled.

[@chewy99.]

@@EvanReichert So you’re saying hypothetically this only proves babies can turn into walkers by dying… but doesn’t prove they turn from a bite… honestly are they really immune if they still turn into walkers when they die? Lol

[@EvanReichert]

@@chewy99. yeah basically. It’s possible eventually the actual walker bite won’t kill u and make u turn. But if u r killed you’ll turn.

[@themagnificentorange672]

4:30 One of the producers (or directors idk) confirmed that Judith is Shane's daughter so yeah. Found this out recently

[@TheSuperMillonare]

the show ocnfirmed itself

[@llcoffj]

The babies are immune theory has been disproved by FTWD now, Dwight and Sherry's kid Finch is born after the apocalypse and turns/dies from a bite.

[@norbertbluhm6999]

Kirkman sort of did elaborate on the Space spore/Aliens stuff in the comics. Issue #75 had an bonus ending where Rick wakes up in the Hospital but its all futuristic, he looks outside and sees walkers and Aliens and even Glenn getting his Guts eaten by walkers (which I think it's funny because since this isn't Canon I li ked it to Glenn's fake death where everyone thought he died) The givenor is a human robot hybrid and other crazy stuff happens. Later Kirkman made it I to a full mi I series called "Rick Grimes 2000"

[@shinigamiisrael]

"Jean Carlo Espinoza" 🤣🤣🤣 Ain't know he was related to Rosita

[@kimberlywilmoth9184]

Awesome video! I really enjoyed that...and I agreed with you on about 95% of it. I personally don't think Hershel is going to kill Negan, but I do think there's a great chance that Negan will die. I can see him going out in a sacrificial sort of way, saving Maggie and/or Hershel...that would be way more meaningful and a more satisfying way to wrap up his arc. Anyway, congrats on reaching 50K, you totally deserve it! Your content is stellar 👌

[@georgem_36]

30:00 I had a chance to meet Lew Temple right after Season 3 ended (also around when the interview talking about how they switched Axel to be a possible love interest to Carol for those episodes), and he's a really awesome dude, we had a great conversation and he said that he much preferred the new route they chose for him!

[@thethriftytypewriter]

Axel seemed like a cool guy. His death was so surprising and I would’ve liked to have him around longer. Could’ve been a great character within the group.

[@Kingofportals]

If it’s all Rick’s Dream then that means it is similar to the show The Prisoner. Maybe all the characters like Daryl, Michonne, Hershel, Carol, Sophia, Sasha, Glenn, Maggie, Abraham, Negan, The Governor, etc are all people he met in real life.

[@TheAwakeningOfA]

For the PPP card, you know that on the scale of human talking PPP correspond to "whispering". So Heath is probably a whisperer, he is alive but just hidden in the walkers.

[@ViceXXII]

Amazing video, you did great the whole 40min and explained everything really clearly. Thank you!

[@vincentlorusso689]

Excellent, excellent video. I enjoyed the whole thing. I like your videos that are in the 12-minute range but I hope you continue making the occasional long video for deeper dives.

[@stinngray]

I'm so glad that you now have way more subscribers than the last time I visited your channel, you deserve it.

[@spacemanspliff7983]

The one theory I always enjoyed was that for Fear the Walking Dead, we would be following the start of the Whisperers. See Madison turn and become Alpha. Give us a 4 - or 5 year build up seeing what they do before meeting Rick's group and showing how threatening they truly are

[@EvanReichert]

Bro what. Madison and alpha r two completely different characters. We’ve already seen alpha’s backstory. And Lydia looks nothing like Alicia

[@Nate-ue8zs]

@@EvanReichert the theory is from back before fear's pilot aired, so a decent bit of people thought we would be following alpha and the whisperer's backstory until they premiered on the main show.

[@luvyoulikecrazy]

I’d hate if there were no reunions that would would be too much for me cos the group have found each other so many times I just couldn’t handle it if it ended w them never seeing each other again 😞

[@jasongreen6826]

I honestly don’t care how bad the shows are I just want them to keep the universe going with the characters because I just want to see how they’re lives progress throughout the years

[@nguyenadege]

Let me know if you've clocked that in the first episode, Morgan's walker-wife turned the door knob of his house and then it was in the opening for a while - the image of the door turning. Isn't she a variant then?

[@captaincvo]

Good video, small nitpick, i wish you showed the full iceberg as one image in the start with all the stuff you added, its not that important but it can build some hype towards to what some of the deeper tiers!

[@frejahertz3675]

There’s a pretty cool theory about the Vatos gang - they aren’t overrun, but the governor attacked them to get their stuff, and then the walkers came. It’s somewhat confirmed because on of the governors men were a part of the Vatos gang!

[@lastrrr4134]

That actor played two different roles.

[@rose_of_venus]

Hi, I'm on my 6th round of watching the walking dead (it's my asd special interest) we do have an idea that children are not immune to the virus because when Maggie is in the train telling everyone about her journey where she found pregnant women with their limbs cut off and what was inside of them (babies) were moving around trying to get out. Loved your video by the way, really well done.

[@RatKid69]

a couple of things - im pretty sure someone said in an interview lori's remains were offscreen. the vatos group werent originally overrun by walkers in the deleted scene they were shot, some theorize this was forshadowing the governor.

[@Zombiesrule93]

My friends and I had a theory that it could have also been the Atlanta cops who killed the vatos because the doctor who Beth befriended at the hospital said they were in the hospital since the the outbreak, the leader Dawn had a strict policy on the medicine use, didn’t want to waste it on people they didn’t think would have a great chance of survival. Also the leader of the vatos was very skeptical of Rick seeing he was cop he could assume that Rick could possibly know the Atlanta cops. Plus the cops hitting Carol with a car kinda in a way showed that they were pretty reckless and would do what they think in necessary to get what the need.

[@forrrrestjohncave]

Vince Gilligan, director of Breaking Bad was also a director of the X-Files back in the day. Could explain how AMC had the cigarette prop they used in the episode.

[@nguvideos2868]

Tons of shows use morely brand cigs, it was made for TV use to avoid copyrights

[@gaigeriel]

No one ever brings up that Glenn mentions playing Portal in Season 2, which opens an entire can of worms. Portal was created by Valve, who also made Left 4 Dead, so technically the concept of zombies shouldn't be unheard of in TWD universe

[@kenzzeei104]

🤯

[@theanarchyrulezshow6169]

Or, maybe they made portal without making L4D (Which is a damn shame but makes sense for TWD)

[@kaitlins4482]

when talking about the “babies are immune” thing, i don’t think that’s true. maggie even recounts in season 11 she and hershel finding a dismembered pregnant woman who had her unborn child trying to claw their way out of her stomach. it implies she conceived prior to death and children can turn even in utero.

[@andreeadicu7766]

great video, the long format really suits your channel style and i’d watch more of these if you made them. just one thing - that snide remark about the MCU really made me wanna hear what your view is on the direction they’ve been taking recently.

[@bluejay7071]

Just an fyi, Rick knows that Judith is Shane's daughter because she has Shane's eyes.

[@TheMelancholicWriter]

I mean, Lori has the same colour too.

[@heller2128]

@@TheMelancholicWriter but not the form) Judith's eyes are clearly inherited from Shane.

[@johncap6495]

Great,video. The amount of survivors is kinda 382,000 without adding anybody in any of the the 3 shows we deal with directly. Commonwealth has 50,000 people....Portland has 97,000 people and Philly (CRM hidden city has 250, 000)So that's over 400,000 people without naming everyone we know. Or naming people in Michonne's group while looking for Rick ,Daryl's group over in Frances group,and the people Negan and Maggie meet. Plus Padre and who they meet in Fear the walking. I think just under 1-2 million people are alive worldwide.

[@lapplandkun9273]

Yeah no. Since TWD is based on real life without the whole supernatural zombie knowledge, there's 7 billion people on earth, so about over one million people are alive

[@hawkterb78clips29]

So hyped, started watching your Videos 2-3 days ago now, love the walking Dead ones

[@danielloewen2857]

I kinda like the idea of no reunions, the final reflection of the franchise is that not everyone gets a happy ending, and some things really are gone for good

[@ajnah6478]

I cant wait already know this is gonna be great

[@holymolystudios8467]

such a big fan of all the videos man. happy your doing longer content ,the video was great

[@panicattheanimationstudio5673]

If I recall correctly the Space Spore comment is based on the fact that the comic had to be pitched 2 times. Once originally as it was to which it got shot down because the comic people it was pitched to basically said "yeah no we can't do anything with Zombies" and then he pitched it again but with the idea that the zombies were actually caused by aliens (super popular at the time) in order to like...soften up earth and apparently it was totally okay then

[@Kingofportals]

I want the CRM leader’s last name to be Fring, he could be Gus’ brother and it would be so cool as a Breaking Bad reference!

[@bellamay3741]

the reason not tomorrow yet was brought up so much is cause that episode is so vital to the series, it’s a turning point that had never been seen before and it’s also where a lot of people stopped watching lmao

[@_the_mandible_]

The Rick is immune theory could still potentially be possible Since Carl didn't actually die from the bite He shot himself

[@redplayswz]

We saw him turn pale and get symptoms pretty sure Carl wasn’t immune if that’s what you are saying

[@thegoldenviper8877]

But in other forms of zombie media I've seen a couple times that symptoms can still show like Ellie in tlou her arm still shown spore like sores so maybe it could have been like a flu illness that Carl had

[@ajkvas2640]

that’s actually so funny cause daryl is in paris cause his bike ran out of gas

[@lilkevthesavage4747]

Wait who is in Paris?

[@dewkissedherba]

i wonder if everyone being infected has anything to do with the hallucinations, like occasionally the dormant form of the virus in people’s bodies causes mental hallucinations? maybe even anxiety or mania? 26:18

[@Liannabelle8]

On the Vatos thing: Rick's sheriff bag that he'd given to them, full of guns, is seen in the governors office. I always assumed, given how he was, that he wiped them out and took their weapons.

[@auroranicole9276]

How have I never even noticed that Heath just goes missing 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

[@dionysus6892]

I'm on the side that "Space Spore" was Kirkman referencing how Geroge Romero's zombies are theroized to have become. In Romero's zombie movies its said a satellite fell to Earth shortly before the outbreak.

[@randomaccount6146]

19:10 there were originally supposed to be bones but they were removed because it would be too gory.