The War Chief’s Regeneration Into The Master | Doctor Who (Fan Made)

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Mancrobat

Mancrobat

Күн бұрын

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@michaelwebster8666
@michaelwebster8666 3 жыл бұрын
i have often felt same, it makes sense. delgado becomes aware of troughton's exile and eventually makes it to earth to settle matters with pertwee as we see in Terror of Autons
@aburninglandfillofbadmovie2930
@aburninglandfillofbadmovie2930 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastically done! Of all the master origins I think the war chief / master path is the most reasonably plausible.
@stevecallum7933
@stevecallum7933 2 жыл бұрын
I always felt that the war chief was an early idea for the Master.
@AndrewChapman
@AndrewChapman 3 жыл бұрын
I'm considering this canon.
@Eltonlaleham
@Eltonlaleham Жыл бұрын
This video is well awesome in billions, and trillions of ways and the way the War Chief regenerates into the Roger Delgado Master is awesome in billions of ways and well made.
@nedd.8479
@nedd.8479 2 жыл бұрын
Even though it's not necessarily canon, the War Chief might just be my favourite incarnation of the Master. Edward Brayshaw's performance is unhinged in a way the character was never played (or written) as after The War Games, and (if you do count him as the Master) this is the story where he feels like the biggest threat.
@brigadier-tc8565
@brigadier-tc8565 2 жыл бұрын
Terrance Dicks and Malcolm Hulke both stated the War Chief was the Master, I don't care what the VNAs said. It makes sense, and it fleshes out the past of the character
@plantainsame2049
@plantainsame2049 Жыл бұрын
Okay but the master was not the meddling Monk he looks way to sheepish
@ItsButterBean1020
@ItsButterBean1020 Жыл бұрын
The VNA’s actually say his Kriegslieter (The War Chief’s deformed self) explicitly regenerates into Roget Delgado
@Quicksilverfan69
@Quicksilverfan69 4 күн бұрын
It makes WAAAY more sense than The Monk being the Master. I believe the War Chief and The Master are the same, their characterisation are practically the same almost.
@awesomecat458
@awesomecat458 2 жыл бұрын
I can tell the war chief and the master act the same, to be honest they do feel like they are the same time lord
@malcolmwebb9367
@malcolmwebb9367 3 жыл бұрын
In Episode 9 of "The War Games" the War Chief says that there were only two of the SIDRATs with enough life in them to make the journey to Earth. One of these two was used in an attempt to rescue the War Lord from Gallifrey. Maybe the War-Chief / Master used the other one to escape after regenerating? The War Chief is just too much like the Master to not be him.
@Icelandic_Sand
@Icelandic_Sand Жыл бұрын
While I do support the theory that they are one in the same, the other SIDRAT was used by the Doctor, Jamie and Zoe to return to the 1917 zone and get their TARDIS
@malcolmwebb9367
@malcolmwebb9367 Жыл бұрын
The other SIDRATs still had enough life to move around the War Games zone, and perhaps even to the Aliens' home planet. So the doctor may have used one of the partially defunct SIDRAT's to get to his TARDIS. However to support your theory, the War Chief would have preferred to summon a fully operational SIDRAT, and that was the same SIDRAT the Doctor used. Or the War Chief / Master may have gone to the 1917 zone after regenerating, knowing that was where the Doctor's TARDIS was.
@tulljones2105
@tulljones2105 Жыл бұрын
well, we know the doctor lies, so who do you think they learned it from?
@plantainsame2049
@plantainsame2049 Жыл бұрын
@@malcolmwebb9367 well According to One Source the master was released from shada by the time lord to keep the doctor busy so maybe the WarChiefs just got caught by the time Lords and forced to regenerate but he managed to slip away before they destroyed his part of
@plantainsame2049
@plantainsame2049 Жыл бұрын
@@tulljones2105 the fact that he was childhood friends with both the master and rani makes me believe at one point he was just as cruel as them but softened when he had children and a granddaughter and later made the hero we all know in the first doctors
@visuallyamazing6440
@visuallyamazing6440 Жыл бұрын
0:35 That's Steve Jobs
@buhe1
@buhe1 2 жыл бұрын
The War Chief could have been the beginning of the Master trying to control the universe for the sake of his vision of order that the Roger Delgado era was based on. That afterwards he decided to call himself the Master for bigger gain.
@ItsButterBean1020
@ItsButterBean1020 Жыл бұрын
I agree I think this fits with the Master desperately trying to make the universe better, which explicitly takes on a more sophisticated and aloof form with that of the Master in Delgado’s form. So my theory is this is the 11th or 10th master, with him regenerating into Delgado or even Dreyfus
@GeraldM_inNC
@GeraldM_inNC Жыл бұрын
I have always felt the War Chief was The Master.
@LordVanOskuro
@LordVanOskuro Жыл бұрын
Would have made some things similar if he was introduced as.
@dyzery2907
@dyzery2907 3 жыл бұрын
Three years ago I watched it, most likely The War Chief was supposed to be the Master in the original script, but as to know at that time scripts were being changed a lot, this thing was not emphasized in the series.
@plantainsame2049
@plantainsame2049 Жыл бұрын
Or maybe the master was meant to be the Warchief cuz the Warchief came first
@dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475
@dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475 2 жыл бұрын
I know this has been debated and it's more generally accepted that the War Chief is separate from the Master but come on! He looks like a younger version of Delgado with the facial hair and the mannerisms wanting to become "Supreme Galactic Ruler". That's very in keeping with the Master's personality and Delgado's is on his 13th incarnation, War Chief could be considered his 12th incarnation and why he decides to pursue the Doctor afterwards for taking his last life.
@awesomecat458
@awesomecat458 2 жыл бұрын
yeah i assume that war chief is his 11th incarnation, and Delgado being his 12th and pratt/beevers being their 13th, basically we did see roger Delgado regenerate in the comic doorway to hell, seperating the Delgado and Pratt/Beevers master incarnations.
@doughorton3635
@doughorton3635 2 жыл бұрын
There's an interesting conversation in the novelized version of "The Deadly Assassin" where the Doctor explains that although he and the Master are about the same age, the Master used up more of his incarnations by his dangerous lifestyle and sometimes forcing a regeneration in order to change his appearance and escape his enemies. It's interesting to think that the Master has a whole other life outside of his encounters with the Doctor and that maybe the Master has other major enemies out there always trying to stop him.
@plantainsame2049
@plantainsame2049 Жыл бұрын
​@@awesomecat458And We see the uncrispified beavers Make an encounter with the alex mcqueen master Who then proceeds to burn him to a crisp
@plantainsame2049
@plantainsame2049 Жыл бұрын
​@@doughorton3635You know from What little I know the master has had some Rather successful adventures and only seems to fail with the doctor around If he just went out of his way to avoid the doctor he could conquer plants by the dozen, but no, he seems to be obsessed with the physician in the blue box
@tonyug113
@tonyug113 Жыл бұрын
@@doughorton3635 didnt the master get promised more regenerations by the timelords in the (was it 5 doctors) when multiple doctors went to the wr zone on gallifrey and boruza tried to wake rassillon.
@michaelrooney1454
@michaelrooney1454 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting theory about the War Chief and the Master. He probably was an earlier incarnation. Don't forget that the Master used up his alloted regeneration as a disguise
@borusa32
@borusa32 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe a prototype of the master in the same way that the Meddling Monk may have been .
@plantainsame2049
@plantainsame2049 Жыл бұрын
How can it be a prototype if they didn't have the plan of the master yet this guy maybe I truly because they'd already set up the Brigadier I wish I had a time machine so I could travel back in time and just have them call this guy the master but the meddling monk I think should always be a different character because he's too sheepish to be the master I feel the master wouldn't murder you the meddling monk would run from conflict
@jlewis31510
@jlewis31510 Жыл бұрын
That was good!
@squadmoralerestored
@squadmoralerestored 3 жыл бұрын
While it's a different character I think you've done a good regeneration scene that's in keeping with the era! Mind you with all the timey wimey stuff it's not impossible that this chap isnt the Master and doesn't realise it or has some tech to stop the Doc recognising him :)
@mancrobat1042
@mancrobat1042 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I definitely feel like I could do better, but I like exploring other aesthetics for regeneration past just the glowing explosion in the way the classic era did, so I’m glad to see people enjoying it
@RicStorm616
@RicStorm616 2 жыл бұрын
The Doctor didn't recognise Michelle Gomez's Missy The Doctor didn't recognise Derek Jacobi's Master The Doctor didn't recognise Sasha Dhawan's Master The First Doctor played by Richard Hurndall didn't recognise Anthony Ainley's Master in the Five Doctors There are plenty of times he didn't recognise him so it is entirely possible that the War Chief was the Master.
@richardenglish2195
@richardenglish2195 Жыл бұрын
@@RicStorm616 Yet the Doctor recognises the War Chief... Not the Master, then.
@paulkelly6691
@paulkelly6691 3 жыл бұрын
Love it
@garrettgriffin4974
@garrettgriffin4974 4 ай бұрын
Makes sense to me...
@malcolmwebb9367
@malcolmwebb9367 Жыл бұрын
Actually the security guards drop the War Chief's body on the platform on the left of the landing bay just as Arturo Villa comes in shooting his revolvers. You can see his feet at 1:48 of the above clip. I watched episode 9 carefully, and the War Chief's feet can be seen even after the Doctor, Jamie, Zoe and Carstairs have departed in the SIDRAT. Of course it's possible the War Chief was "playing possum", or just unconscious while his body was starting to regenerate. But then it's difficult to see how he could have escaped the Time Lords.
@tonyguyot2271
@tonyguyot2271 Жыл бұрын
It looks good & The War Games is a great series, which doesn't get enough air. Nonetheless, that iteration of The Master is already established, not in expanded media but in canon. Keeper Of Traken establishes that regeneration, wouldn't you agree?
@alexanderhussussian5653
@alexanderhussussian5653 2 жыл бұрын
So the war chef is the master
@buhe1
@buhe1 10 ай бұрын
Have you noticed that the guy with two guns doesn't really aim them. It's like he simply fires them and they hit their mark.
@joshuajoshua2732
@joshuajoshua2732 4 ай бұрын
Their seperate characters.
@ChristinaMoore79
@ChristinaMoore79 3 жыл бұрын
So the guy that was shot as the "traitor" you think of as The Master?
@SStupendous
@SStupendous 3 жыл бұрын
"The guy" as in the War Chief? Certainly was a traitor to the Galifreyans my guy
@wacmack
@wacmack Жыл бұрын
😈
@peggyerickson2549
@peggyerickson2549 4 ай бұрын
👽👽
@semajttam
@semajttam 10 ай бұрын
Lol Two dissimilar characters. But there you go, good effort
@abruzziboy2000
@abruzziboy2000 3 жыл бұрын
My only issue with this is that the relationship that the Master had with the Doctor in the past, doesn’t make sense in this story, because the War Chief doesn’t recognize the Doctor.
@mancrobat1042
@mancrobat1042 3 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure there’s a moment where the war chief says he explicitly does recognize The Doctor, saying something along the lines of “you changed your face since you left but it’s still you.” It’s The Doctor who doesn’t recognize The War Chief, which I reconcile by just saying he never introduced himself as The Master, and The Doctor had never seen this incarnation
@themoxcast
@themoxcast 3 жыл бұрын
They recognise each other. The War Chief states it directly and the Doctor runs as soon as he sees the War Chief. It's ambiguous enough that the War Chief could easily be the Master if a writer chose to make it that way.
@martinbennett8752
@martinbennett8752 2 жыл бұрын
there is a line a line of dialogue in the series when the War Chief does say "I know who you are", and the Doctor recognized the War Chief earlier on. It was obvious that Time Lord tech was being used.
@plantainsame2049
@plantainsame2049 Жыл бұрын
@@mancrobat1042 or maybe due to the fact that they're both still criminals wanted by the time Lords that this time the master has not erased himself on The Matrix yet and the doctor hasn't been pardoned they're both taking more care to hide their identities from the time Lords so while they might recognize each other as time Lords they don't recognize each other as childhood friends because the master can hide from the doctor he's done it before
@wayneking6932
@wayneking6932 2 жыл бұрын
Aren’t the war chief and the master 2 different time lords ??
@alexthemtaandr211weatherfa2
@alexthemtaandr211weatherfa2 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@MammothMorals
@MammothMorals 11 ай бұрын
It's a nice fan theory that they're the same
@TheRealUnkn0wn_289
@TheRealUnkn0wn_289 3 жыл бұрын
The war chief is a different character
@mancrobat1042
@mancrobat1042 3 жыл бұрын
I’m aware. This is just a little bit of harmless head canon
@Trev359
@Trev359 Күн бұрын
Sorry, but the War Chief is NOT the Master!!!
@jandoor2068
@jandoor2068 3 ай бұрын
Wow.... I have a pair of old sneakers that have done a better job at editing video.....
@mancrobat1042
@mancrobat1042 3 ай бұрын
Same
@oliverstrucker5829
@oliverstrucker5829 7 ай бұрын
I don't think The War Chief and The Master ate the same person
@mancrobat1042
@mancrobat1042 7 ай бұрын
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