"The Warriors NEVER Needed Draymond Green!" - Reacting To Hot Takes!

Main channel video: "Has Offense Gone Too Far in the NBA?"
• Has Offense Gone Too F...
An overdue reading of all the hot takes you've submitted since *Christmas*! (oops)
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#basketball #nba #commentary
0:00 Intro
0:34 "KAT is a top five big man"
0:46 "Aaron Nesmith is the Pacers second best player"
1:52 "Trae Young could've been in the MVP conversation"
2:21 "The Warriors with LaMelo would be the best team in the NBA"
3:36 "Anthony Edwards is top ten"
4:40 "Derrick White is undoubtedly an All-Star"
5:40 "A team will score 200 points before a single player score 100 again"
7:10 "Draymond's influence on the Warriors dynasty is overrated"
9:07 "Khris Middleton is just Payton Pritchard"
9:46 "Trey Murphy will be a top 30 player next season"
11:30 "The NBA needs to change how they classify DPOY"
12:52 "Trade Zach LaVine for a 'win now' player"
13:10 "There aren't five players I'd take over Haliburton going forward"
14:07 "DeAaron Fox is a top three PG this year"
14:41 "LeBron's Lakers extension was the worst decision of his career"
15:52 "Spoelstra is the runaway Coach of the Year"
16:14 "It's time for the Spurs to move on from Pop"
16:49 "Duncan Robinson is better than Klay Thompson this year"
18:09 "Wemby's teammates do NOT hate him"
19:25 "The NBA is now less watchable for non-casual fans"
19:36 "Being an offensive machine is more valuable than defense for stars"
20:23 "Steve Kerr can't keep getting away with this"
20:45 "Randle and Siakam are not serious people"
21:25 "The best destination for LaVine is Orlando"
22:31 Outro

[@Tomtainius]

Calling prime Draymond’s defence “replaceable” might be the worst take in the history of this series. Like… What?

[@mediokah232]

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[@penguinsinorbit2034]

honestly , drays defense doesnt makeup for the attitude.. if you think about the cavs suspension, making kd leave, and punching poole a case could be made hes cost the warriors more than helped

[@machoboys8884]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@penguinsinorbit2034yeah Dray was only pivotal to them winning 4 championships. Def not worth having him

[@bradenculver7457]

@@penguinsinorbit2034this is one of the worst takes I’ve seen recently and I hate draymond

[@tork601]

@@penguinsinorbit2034one of the best defenders ever, crucial in 4 rings, you’re crazy

[@Tomtainius]

11:31 I really like what this take is getting at. Splitting to ‘backcourt DPOY’ and ‘frontcourt DPOY’ is a change I’d happily welcome.

[@Mr.Sax.]

Frontcourt DPOY would still heavily favor bigs over wings

[@nomongosinthaworld]

Yeah it should be more like a perimeter defense and a paint protector award

[@sir.muffiniii7011]

@@Mr.Sax.backcourt would consider wings prolly too

[@Jeremy-ot6pb]

@@Mr.Sax.normal dpoy already does that so what's the difference

[@Mr.Sax.]

@@Jeremy-ot6pb Guards getting an award every year?

[@albericponcedeleon2696]

Calling Khris Middleton "Payton Pritchard with opportunity" feels disrespectful to both of them 😂

[@charlieperkins2422]

Jacob over here displaying last night’s hickeys all video long 😂😂

[@jamespratt529]

Fr smh 😂😂 he low key proud of em

[@W3althy_Burrito]

Absolutely 😂. There's no need for him to be side profiling the camera like that.

[@ronmastrio2798]

His boyfriend going hard.

[@youknowthevi6es375]

weird flex, but okay

[@granddolph]

was wondering if these were bruises from choking. call for help?

[@slackerofhell]

Man, if that guy thinks Steve Kerr gets a pass because he has four rings, wait until he hears about this dude named Doc Rivers

[@AlroyDaForce]

I'll take Domantas Sabonis over Bam Adebayo and KAT any day of the week. Currently at 20, 13 and 8 while shooting 44 % from three 💪

[@JoeBro915]

I would also take Julius Randle over all of them as well. Bully ball slasher who has been efficient as a scorer rebounder and playmaker. Not someone you can leave open too

[@AlroyDaForce]

@@JoeBro915 I respect your opinion 👍. I personally wouldn't though.

[@loganmattoon5284]

Thanks Rusty. I've now been forced to briefly imagine Steve Kerr's slong decorated with 4 rings like a totem pole

[@Todesschleicher]

Why would he leave 5 rings off?

[@loganmattoon5284]

@@Todesschleicher because rusty said he has 4 rings on his cock. Just going off of what bro said

[@loganmattoon5284]

@@Todesschleicher he said "his four rings" in the vid

[@JuanTonSoupXP]

Yeah, no. They definitely needed Draymond - only until he caused them to no longer need him. He got away with so much because the production was there, but now that it’s not - he in turn isn’t useful. Just a liability.

[@jop9816]

Draymond is just a liability he says, we will see you on the next hot takes video

[@yaboyalaska7550]

He's still a good player but his antics have just escalated to the point where they could no longer be ignored

[@oneautumnleaff2119]

Draymonds entire career has been that of a role player, he is easily replaceable. Stats don't lie, glazing fans do.

[@sir.muffiniii7011]

@@oneautumnleaff2119context for those stats do, I can tell based on ur comments that u just look at basketball reference and don’t watch the games

[@supersonicsandshrew9742]

Draymond green is perhaps an underrated offensive player because anything he does offensively is at best the third thing he’s known for. I envision he could’ve been an efficient about 18 points per game with about 9 assists. But the progression was stopped dead in its tracks by the signing of kd and he never stepped back into that third offensive option role.

[@MuttonErase]

He was a scorer back at michigan state. Not much of a need to keep doing that when you have 2 of 5 best shooters ever on your team.

[@athleogrmx]

Is that the 100k subscribers KZbin button sitting casually there in the couch behind a couple of cushions?

[@Jeff_2x]

Thought I was the only one who thought Draymond was more important than Klay

[@oneautumnleaff2119]

Current Klay is arguably more valuable than Prime Dray so Just to put into perspective how ass he is.

[@sir.muffiniii7011]

@@oneautumnleaff2119NO HE FUCKING ISNT😭

[@cjosborn4796]

Love the shoutout for nick and the coping hour!

[@king_supreme1102]

I honestly don’t think Nesmith is that far behind Turner. He’s progressing into a good POA defender, he’s a great shooter this year, his athleticism getting to the rim surprises you, and best of all he is 1000% all hustle. I don’t think he’s done getting better either.

[@rob_008_4]

Thank you for bringing this back pookie bear rusty 🙌

[@paratame105]

Of course I'm still watching! Is the completion rate on your second channel really this bad? Thought this was primarily a Rusty fan zone

[@jonathansykes4986]

Draymond was more important to the Warriors than Klay. Yeah I said it. Come at me.

[@mediokah232]

It’s not too crazy to say that. You only had to watch at the time and have no recency bias

[@Tomtainius]

Without either they don’t win 2015, but they probably win both 2017 and 2018 anyway. I’d say they were of equal importance for all three chips. As for 2022, it was pretty obvious that Draymond’s defence on its own contributed significantly more than Klay throughout the postseason. So yeah, Draymond was more important than Klay in 1 of their 4 championships.

[@sir.muffiniii7011]

@@Tomtainiushe was more important in 3 or 4 of them

[@turboi1153]

I know that outros are kind of bad for the KZbin algorithm but I honestly appreciate it when you have time to chill after a vid rather than going from 100 to 0 in 1 second

[@bohanxu6125]

I feel like one reason why defense is also kind important on super star is that you don't want the other team to hunt for match up against your superstar, like steph or dame or trae young or harden. This just drain their stamina unnecessarily, and affect their offense. Teams won't hunter to switch against kawhi or Giannis so those super star can "rest" in defense (not defending on ball) if they chose to.... By the way, I'm kinda talking out of my a** right now. I don't actually know how much it matters. I wonder if people have looked up stats on super star with bad defense and see if their offensive production drops when playing against a team who is able to hunt them for matchups.

[@qdakid7776]

The stats don’t really matter it’s obvious trae young would probably be a top 3 guard in the league if his defense was good

[@august6281]

like what happened with Nash Suns. how i hard i cheered for them

[@jamespratt529]

The timing of this video was perfect, just in time for a smoke break 👌🏼

[@mcgaming8982]

That draymond take is criminal

[@fourvetperrie457]

Nah u just a fan girl loving on someone regardless of how vindictive they are. Dray don't care about u so stop supporting his foul actions

[@konorkaotic9657]

@@fourvetperrie457 its insane to call him unessential especially in '15 and '22

[@fourvetperrie457]

@konorkaotic9657 I don't coden his actions and I could care less what he does in a basketball court. He is bad part of society and its disgraceful he is allowed to do what he does. He should be banned or we wait until he gets in a fist fight with a fan/teammate/another NBA player. And there is no saying he won't. In fact, he probably will do it again cuz he has done it 6 times or whatever the absurd amount of situations he has put himself into.

[@konorkaotic9657]

@@fourvetperrie457 do you watch basketball? He punched his former teammate Jordan Poole and ran on Nurkic with a spin

[@konorkaotic9657]

@@fourvetperrie457 even so, you can hate him for being a piece of shit but know he was integral there, you can’t just erase the past

[@the2dudes1]

Putting Bam over KAT is pretty questionable

[@HorizonOfHope]

@20:44 I'm still watching, but I need a bit of help: how do you get it to swing once the four rings are on?

[@kylepatrick2231]

Edwards over Haliburton. His leadership and two-way play cannot be understated, and that's not even mentioning the fact that he's turning 23 years old this August.

[@Chris-yo9ft]

Like this hot takes video

[@ShniitSchneyder]

are those hickeys? 🤭

[@antwan1357]

The game has changed players that are pure defenders without offence production are getting left off the roster for players that can perform on the scoring end without much defence.

[@beaniealex]

I was listening! I heard it and laughed but then said that man has 9 rings on it!!!

[@arthurmacedo7509]

20:38 I am watching

[@LoneSamurai_X]

If Trae was indeed a true MVP-calibre player, then his team SHOULD/WOULD be better 🤦🏻‍♂️💀💀

[@adammacfarlane3732]

14:01 youd have Halliburton over Tatum??? That’s crazy

[@joeknapp9162]

Klay’s defense was elite pre-injury. I hope that Trey Murphy take was about his offense. It’s pretty wild take otherwise.

[@nomongosinthaworld]

Elite is really a stretch. He was always highly gassed up as a defender

[@joeknapp9162]

@@nomongosinthaworld my ass

[@joeknapp9162]

Couldn’t agree more with the Lavine to the Magic take

[@NuNerd]

I still watch, Jakob.

[@joelco92]

Trae has shot 42% from the field the last 2 years while shooting 33 and 36% from 3. Not only that but he shoots at a high volume and is a crappy defender. His assist numbers are great, I’ll give him that, but he also has the ball in his hands longer than any other player. How in the hell would he be considered a possible MVP candidate even if the Hawks had a great record? I don’t understand how so many people see him as such a great player. Could someone please enlighten me? He also just looks annoying af

[@blakeunderwood1075]

Be quad he literally averages more than Lebron while player the same amount of EFFECTIVE defense.

[@joelco92]

@@blakeunderwood1075 Lol he averages more than Lebron while LBJ shoots 52% from the field and 40% from 3. 10% and 4% better than Trae respectively. Lebron is also 39 years old while Trae should be entering the prime of his career. Not sure where you’re getting the comparison of Trae and Lebron’s defense, but it is a well known fact Trae is a huge liability on the defensive side of the ball, and while Lebron isn’t a great defender nowadays I guarantee he’s much less of a liability than Trae. Besides, this wasn’t an argument between Lebron and Trae, this was an argument about how Trae is overrated.

[@Vyuel]

couldve mentioned sabonis in the first question too

[@AWGEplaza]

The warriors lose, the world wins🙌

[@chalnervassor9430]

Real hater behavior 😂😂😂

[@tonysobon4669]

About Middleton , he was on mins restriction for like the first third of the season and was out a long time so they have been giving him more and more looks and chances to try and get him back to as full force as he can be. Watch the last 10-15 games Khris has starting to flashes again of just being able to get red hot and also still has the best back and forth with Giannis. His offense looks like it could fully be there still but he will never be the same on defense and that was something he never got the credit for as he was overall a good 2 way player . He has been with The Bucks besides his first year didn't make a ton of money for awhile and has been a legit part of The Bucks success , The right thing to do was maybe overpay a bit , hard enough to get players to Milwaukee without Giannis.

[@justicetankson6699]

Also he doesn't even make 40 million idk where that number came from he makes 29 this season

[@tonysobon4669]

@@justicetankson6699 they always round way up.

[@devinkonquer3334]

I miss when you used to talk about movies and TV at the end of the video I understand things change tho

[@shadovvpanther]

comparing Draymond Green with Dennis Rodman is wild...

[@sully8754]

Moving to a city really got you look at that neck man🤣

[@hagenlala6409]

Greetings Jacob

[@DG-gx8pn]

Jacob if you bring back the film channel I’ll give you the sloppiest top

[@DG-gx8pn]

I would like to apologize for my previous statements.

[@saulayala641]

13:16 sga too

[@bpdmf2798]

Nesmith's career high in points is 26. There's no way the second best player on an all time great offense maxed out at 26 points in his career. I love Nesmith though, as a Boston fan, I knew he was gonna get better with the minutes. He was crazy high energy and lived so fast, but now after a few years it looks like the game slowed down for him and he in turn doesn't fly around as much anymore.

[@scottkellogg2180]

Rusty casually flexing the hickeys.😂

[@stevenclaeys3602]

Long standing problem: please boost the volume on the videos. I forget it's on full blast then play something else and nearly die. every time.

[@hugomorency8700]

I was still watching

[@Poedog717]

I’m here Jacob 🫡

[@markfriedman5358]

Even though,Buttler played for Minnesota,woukd you trade him for Carl Anthony Towns?

[@victorlins6279]

12:14 Do you think even Gary Payton's or Jordan's DPOYs should go to some PF or C? I get the Marcus Smart take, but you said ALWAYS

[@jandrashriker5861]

20:44 it wasn't the end of the video. Noah asked us to tell you about it.

[@jamespratt529]

Jacob got something going on with his neck? 👀

[@user-vi4yj5tx5p]

That was me

[@jamespratt529]

@@user-vi4yj5tx5p 🤨 woah

[@awardedaqua580]

Working on your car last night eh??

[@bpdmf2798]

If Draymond is "replaceable" then why would an ejection be a liability? Just replace him.

[@bpdmf2798]

The only time they didn't need Green was when KD was there because they were so overpowered that it ruined the league for like 3 years.

[@bpdmf2798]

Derrick White should be an all star. He's got the craziest stats when it comes to balanced stats and not just high ppg or rebounds. He probably won't get in, but I have a feeling the coaches are gonna choose him especially if there's an injury (like Haliburton out now).

[@Miles_305]

As a Heat fan they suck rn, BUT I agree, because of what he is capable of on both sides of the ball, i'd take him over the 'Big Purr' 😅

[@zahcuri]

rusty can you make an in depth video into luka i feel like the media hates on him more than any other player in the sense that they don’t talk about him enough or give him credit hes only 24 and his start in the nba is already historic please lmk your thoughts

[@JoeyTheShmo]

Every time I’m reminded of Luca and Tatum’s age, my immediate reaction is “Wait really?”

[@jemariohawkins5643]

No 😮

[@alfieday6896]

Rusty is one of the people crying about "Offence has gone too far" just cos a white guy scored 70 lmao

[@nbarealtalker]

I think if you measure his perceived positive impact with his measurable negative impact, Draymond draws around even. He has cost them at least one, probably two and arguably 3 chips (if you include the punching Poole season). Draymond has a very high basketball IQ and is at least a starting calibre player on many teams. BUT…. He also writes cheques with his mouth that his team has to cash because without the system he plays in and succeeds with, he’s proven to be a relatively useless player on any kind of mid or lesser team. He’s not a bad player, but he’d never even get a whiff of the HOF or championship success without the system he plays in. I usually hate claiming anyone is a “system player” but he couldn’t even average a low percentage double double the year the Warriors sucked. And that exposed him enough that Golden State missed the bust by not seeing it.

[@thenotoriousmichaeljackson8938]

20:45 I was watchin b

[@yajirobeyaj]

i still watching lol

[@szkszk1790]

well well well

[@TomStansfield]

Hot take for Hot take : Pop needed replacing the moment he refused to start adapting to the current style of basketball.

[@younggoj3480]

2016 finals game 7 draymond out of the big three was the only one to show up

[@sheyarjames4904]

Cameron Payne is a top 250 player.

[@shadovvpanther]

Draymon Green is the Robert Horry of our generation. A rotational player with a decent complementary skillset to get carried by future hall of famers to a bunch of championships.

[@sirjonestotherescue]

dismissing Peyton Pritchard was a grave error

[@kokoro_gospel]

Soooo... who else came back to this video after the LaVine news?

[@chaset.3249]

lamelo on GSW would've ended up like shai when he was on LAC

[@frewolfe8304]

This is actually a perfect comparison

[@evanwrenn402]

Dray was +31 last night. The Warriors lost by 32 in the 12 minutes he didn’t play lol

[@spider-man120]

Draymond has done some damage to the warriors, sometimes being a liability on offense, emotions running wild, kicking poole and Durant out of GS. However ever since the dynasty has started he has always been the 2nd or 3rd best player on those championship teams. He is the greatest team defender of all time. He goes so well with Steph and is the reason those warrior defenses have been always so good or even average.

[@fakecomedyandtheabsurd2527]

Saying Warriors never needed Draymond is like saying Bulls second three peat never needed Rodman, or Bad Boys did not need him, it's ridiculous. Rings are not happening without either of them, Durant is never coming over - and if the refs did not kick him out, 3-1 would not have happened either.

[@tranceform9459]

I think melo would've been like poole, but better maybe without getting punched.

[@bpdmf2798]

If Draymond is so good and he deserves his all star back in the day, then Derrick White did too. White does for Boston what Green did for GSW.

[@ex1dia876]

It should be "The Warriors never needed Kevin Durant" if you swap KD with any decent shooter, the GSW will still win the 2 rings.

[@jaceh4942]

Is it a hot take to say that Wemby is already the best defensive player in the league?

[@John.Asante]

Idk about Draymond being a generational defensive talent

[@winter9242]

He kinda is though. He anchored the GSW death lineup with his versatility in locking down guards & wings while providing crucial rim protection and provided the most important aspect on defense which is communication

[@rickharrison1737]

Why not? He literally is the small-ball 5 blueprint.

[@sir.muffiniii7011]

How? He’s prolly the most versatile defender ever, can guard 1-5, led the league in steals, best team defender ever, extremely good defensive communicator, etc

[@Frozenfrog18]

They need him.

[@woah7609]

Warriors defense without draymond is horrible

[@crystalizedExposed]

yeah even if hes not the same defender he was in the past his iq and him pointing out plays happening definitely helps

[@drew1399]

20:55 crazy to say that about randle when pascal is literally worse. randle one of the most underrated players in the league

[@rationalcommentor]

Okay hear me out, if the warriors won the 2016 warriors some of you might argue that draymond could have the fmvp. Oh, how the tides are changing.

[@sephirrothvt]

The All Defensive team exists, creating more awards to fit the Guards narrative is not important.

[@fortynights1513]

Hot Take: The mid to late 80’s West and early 2010’s East are comparable in how top heavy they were. There was one team that consistently dominated with few exceptions (Showtime Lakers and the teams LeBron was on), and otherwise both conferences have been described as weak.

[@thetank5642]

You can go even further and say throughout all of the 80 and until the late 90s the west was either top heavy or weak

[@jahbrilplaysgamesandstuff326]

The whole 2010s* lebron missed 1 finals that decade 😂

[@fortynights1513]

@@thetank5642I could see that as well. The 80’s West had the Lakers, Rockets, and not much else. The 90’s had the Rockets, and Sonics. Jazz were kind of in their own tier right below, and then everyone else. Either way, those were likely your top tiers.

[@winter9242]

​@@fortynights1513 You're forgetting about the blazers in the late 80s and early 90s and suns in the 90s

[@fortynights1513]

@@winter9242Those two definitely popped up in between, my bad.

[@Quantum_Humanics]

Tyrese Haliburton is ahead of dearon too

[@msolomon1781]

This bag of milk doesn't have a clue. 🤦🏾‍♂️😏

[@antoniouy9704]

The warriors can easily replace draymond..but the question is how to get the other team to give up their player for dray..i can pick at least a dozen players who can replace draymond and make the dubs a better team..jokic..embiid..davis..lebron..kd..giannis..tatum..adebayo..kawhi..sabonis...jjj..banchero..

[@moisturizedkev]

I'M SORRY, no disrespect to Hali, but: Luka Jokic Giannis SGA Ant Wemby - not in that order, but i feel like they all clear easily ... and that is truly no disrespect to Tyrese at all, dude is a point God...

[@hrothgars5992]

I was still watching, but I don't think the rings would fit.

[@JordanGurney]

The Ball brothers are cursed with Injury issues. smh. I really hope Zo's career isn't over. And yeah, Ant's not top 10, but I believe he will be. Give Ant B.I.'s playmaking and he becomes a force!

[@nathanabraham4639]

No one on the planet would trade Kat for bam straight up, plus remember Ant Edward's is atleast on the same level as Tyrese

[@jakemurphy3352]

Julius Randle kristaps Wemby

[@TheBuffaloFlats]

Like him or hate him, Draymond is a positive for the Warriors. His plus/minus on the floor is plus 12. So he makes a difference

[@rickharrison1737]

I’m pretty sure most if not all of his prime seasons he was among the league’s best in on/off differential. Mainstream audiences won’t ever appreciate his legacy due to his late career antics.

[@Jeremy-ot6pb]

ant is leading his team to the #1 seed. that alone makes him a top 10 player imo you aren't a top 10 player if you aren't the best player on your team and your team isnt a top seed

[@scotthenderson3519]

Was he not more trouble than he was worth? People act like if Draymond goes away they can't trade him for another really good player. Maybe KD would have stayed without him

[@winter9242]

Not with their cap room

[@user-yv4sk3vz2x]

Thinking someone like jokic is remotely close to goat, when he has yet to be best player in the league or even best at offense is laughably casual.

[@sideactivist]

I know we say “casual” and “you dont know ball” as jokes and shit but the person who made this title a possibility definitely isn’t very knowledgeable

[@SpiritSquadMTG]

Do I like Dray? Not really. But calling his D replaceable is WIIIIIIIILD beyond belief. Like, that person may need to be checked into rehab.

[@leonpse]

Crazy, why not try an all-Star team of ball hogs?

[@chriswarner6038]

kawhi leonard was the best defender in the league and he’s not a pf/c

[@shadovvpanther]

Draymon green is TJ Mcconell with better defense 😭