The Warship That Was a Greater Threat to Its Fleet Than to the Enemy

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@andrewtaylor940
@andrewtaylor940 11 ай бұрын
Not to nitpick but Mogami was a Heavy Cruiser. Battlecruisers were something else. The one thing you cannot fault Mogami for was damage control. She survived more punishment than pretty much anything else in the IJN.
@train_boy_2569
@train_boy_2569 11 ай бұрын
they have done this stuff before, they called prinz eugen a battleship, i think it is to try to get more people to click on the video as people want to listen about the bigger ships, so clickbait
@Golden-dog88
@Golden-dog88 11 ай бұрын
to right mate n it aint nit picking, These usually get it right but like all us humans they to sometimes make mistakes
@Crab_Allah
@Crab_Allah 11 ай бұрын
Fax
@nattybumpo7156
@nattybumpo7156 11 ай бұрын
Kumano. The crew of Kumano was far better.
@dontall71
@dontall71 11 ай бұрын
Mogami needed better trained helmsmen.
@geoguy001
@geoguy001 11 ай бұрын
yeah Mogami was laid down as a light cruiser with 155 MM guns and upgraded to heavy cruiser with 203 mm guns....her original turrets were reused on the Yamato class battleship, but she herself was never a battleship
@lloydknighten5071
@lloydknighten5071 11 ай бұрын
The repair crews aboard IJN MOGAMI were excellent technicians. They made MOGAMI the heavy cruiser that fought like a battleship.
@angc214
@angc214 10 ай бұрын
Especially amazing when you consider Mogami wasn't even a heavy cruiser. She was a light cruiser.
@andrewtaylor940
@andrewtaylor940 10 ай бұрын
@@angc214 She had 8” guns, did she not? She was originally commissioned as a light cruiser due to squeak in under Washington Naval Treaty limits, but Japan already had the upgrade package designed built and ready to go the moment nobody was paying attention. The Mogami’s were designed to be Heavy Cruisers. They were just launched as Light ones with smaller main guns and less armor.
@johnmoore8599
@johnmoore8599 11 ай бұрын
Sinking five ships with a torpedo salvo is a great feat. Only problem was that the torpedoes were Long Lance variants and their range caused them to hit their own transports instead of the enemy targets. The Allies didn't figure out how deadly those torpedoes really were for another year.
@PeteOtton
@PeteOtton 11 ай бұрын
And even then they often refused to believe it.
@Idahoguy10157
@Idahoguy10157 10 ай бұрын
IIRC a long lance was recovered by the Americans in the Solomons campaign. Before that the US Navy refused to recognize that range of Japanese torpedoes
@PeteOtton
@PeteOtton 10 ай бұрын
@@Idahoguy10157 It still took a while to get the information disseminated through out the fleet, and even then more than a few were skeptical. The Solomons campaign was a harsh crucible that weeded out those who were incompetent or unwilling to learn. If you were lucky you were merely beached.
@Idahoguy10157
@Idahoguy10157 10 ай бұрын
@@PeteOtton …. Losses for both sides were roughly equal. Which is to say horrendous. But the US Navy could replace the ships it lost.
@PeteOtton
@PeteOtton 10 ай бұрын
@@Idahoguy10157 True. But what could have happened if the USN had actually had the money for training in the '30s instead of just for the annual exercises. Imagine if the yanks had been nearly or as competent as the Brits or Japanese at night fighting?
@seanbigay1042
@seanbigay1042 11 ай бұрын
"Admiral, I must report that our cruiser Mogami sank Army transports by accident." (Beat. Then Admiral:) "And what's the bad news?"
@jordanhys4166
@jordanhys4166 11 ай бұрын
The navy don't care 😂 The army lose transport ship😅
@Engine33Truck
@Engine33Truck 11 ай бұрын
I watched a documentary once that said “the Imperial Japanese Navy’s main enemies were, in order: the Imperial Japanese Army, then the United States. The Imperial Japanese Army’s mortal enemies were the Imperial Japanese Navy, and secondly China”
@jordanhys4166
@jordanhys4166 11 ай бұрын
And we know what next
@gregorylumpkin2128
@gregorylumpkin2128 10 ай бұрын
Sir, the enemy ships sank the transports but we sank them.
@marvinjohnson424
@marvinjohnson424 11 ай бұрын
Not being on their side, and no matter what type of ship she was, that was one tough boat.🇺🇸
@melangellatc1718
@melangellatc1718 11 ай бұрын
A cruiser ISN'T a battleship...
@1967davethewave
@1967davethewave 10 ай бұрын
And they don't launch B17's from carriers.
@melangellatc1718
@melangellatc1718 10 ай бұрын
Indeed!
@willythemailboy2
@willythemailboy2 10 ай бұрын
You'd be shocked at how many people use the words "battleship" and "warship" interchangeably.
@tamer1773
@tamer1773 10 ай бұрын
The big problem with IJN ships wasn't that they had ineffective damage control, but that they didn't give extensive damage control training to the entire crew. They certainly had well trained damage control officers and men, but if significant numbers of the damage control crew were injured or killed damage control suffered. That's supposedly what happened at Midway when a couple of the IJN carriers lost most of their trained damage control people. Whether the ships would have been saved or at least brought back online long enough to launch another strike like the Yorktown did is unknown, but it might have changed the outcome significantly.
@Todd.P
@Todd.P 11 ай бұрын
Dumbest? No, I think it was just unlucky. Mogami took a beating before finally going down; not many cruisers could do as well.
@seanbigay1042
@seanbigay1042 11 ай бұрын
"I can definiely confirm that Mogami was our dumbest ship in World War II!" "Oh? Did you serve in the Japanese Navy?" "No, I served in the ARMY!"
@Kitsambler
@Kitsambler 10 ай бұрын
the nimber of collisions is just astounding
@1967davethewave
@1967davethewave 10 ай бұрын
Man, these guys sure ran into each other a lot.
@tommytwotacos8106
@tommytwotacos8106 10 ай бұрын
B-17s never took off from carriers for any battle ever. There were some tests that occured, but the largest bomber to ever launch from a carrier for battle were B-25 Mitchells on the Dolittle Raid. One of the carriers you mentioned as launching heavy bombers was the USS Ranger which was a jeep carrier or escort carrier, which is far smaller than the fleet carriers that were also too small for heavy bomber launching.
@jedimasterdraco6950
@jedimasterdraco6950 10 ай бұрын
Ranger was not an escort carrier, she was a fleet carrier. The issue with her was that she was the first American carrier designed and built as a carrier (the Lexingtons were converted from then-building battlecruisers), and as such she had a number of flaws as a result of designers not knowing yet what would and wouldn’t work for a carrier. Fortunately they learned fast resulting in the excellent Yorktown-class.
@WilliamClodius
@WilliamClodius 10 ай бұрын
@@jedimasterdraco6950a big problem with the Ranger design were the treaty limits on the combined displacements allowed for the overall carrier force. The US initially thought that it might be better to launch more lighter carriers than fewer heavier ones. When Ranger proved near useless in the Pacific, and of limited use in the Atlantic, they had to change their priorities.
@enscroggs
@enscroggs 11 ай бұрын
"battleship" does not equal "warship"
@scorpion19142001
@scorpion19142001 11 ай бұрын
Whats the difference?
@erichammond9308
@erichammond9308 10 ай бұрын
​@@scorpion19142001a battleship is heavily armored (usually proof against guns of equal caliber to her own at typical combat ranges) and armed with heavier guns. A typical WWII battleship had 12 to 16 inch cannon (larger in the case of the Yamato class). Cruisers are generally faster, with lighter armor and armament, and are not commonly armored enough to match their own guns. During WWII the most common caliber of main gun in cruisers was 8" cannons. The term battleship is derived from the original "ship of the line" a warship that is powerful enough to stand in the line of battle. The term warship is more inclusive, and means any ship armed for battle. Every battleship is a warship, but not every warship is a battleship.
@dennisgalvin-u6q
@dennisgalvin-u6q 10 ай бұрын
The ignorami who put quickie articles together will even often call destroyers “battleships”…
@enscroggs
@enscroggs 10 ай бұрын
@@scorpion19142001 The term "battleship" derives from the naval tactics of the 18th century, specifically the line of battle. A warship suitable to fight in the line of battle was a "battleship". In Nelson's day, the line of battle was comprised of three classes or "rates" of very large and heavy ships with three or more gun decks. The biggest carrying 100 or more guns were First Rates. Third Rates carried 64 to 72 guns, and the Second Rates were the ship carrying 74 to 98 guns. First, Second, and Third Rate ships were known collectively as "ships of the line". Ships smaller than the Third Rate, generally frigates (50 to 28 guns) were considered too weakly armed to fight in the line, but being fast and maneuverable, they did valuable work carrying messages, guarding convoys and supply ships, and raiding enemy commerce. Frigates were also valuable working closely with the Line of Battle by relaying signals. Because battleships lined up bow to stern might have difficulty directly seeing the signals displayed by the admiral's ship, it was often helpful to station a frigate some distance away from the Line, 500-1000 yards opposite the admiral's ship to relay flag signals to the rest of the fleet or squadron. This is the origin of the term flagship. Ships smaller than frigates, often called sloops or brigs, could work close to shore where a ship-of-the-line or a frigate might risk running aground. Battleships, whether wooden sailing ships or steel behemoths continued to fight in line from the late 17th century right through to the last battleship-on-battleship fight in 1944. In the age of steel-hulled steam-powered ships, the battleships were supplemented by a new type of warship with big guns but less armor called cruisers. Cruisers were needed because they could go much further on a single load of fuel than a heavy battleship. They cruised, hence the name. Cruisers were at first a very ill-defined category of ship. There were armored cruisers, purpose-built warships with guns of smaller caliber than battleship guns, and merchant cruisers, which were merchant ships outfitted with guns during times of war, and there was the battlecruiser, a purpose-built warship carrying battleship-caliber guns but less armor than a battleship. During that same period, a new naval weapon was invented that wasn't a gun. This was the torpedo, a weapon powerful enough to sink a battleship but light enough to be carried by a very small vessel. The invention of the torpedo prompted the invention of the torpedo boat, a class of warship cheap enough for the less wealthy countries to have in substantial numbers, and that could threaten the naval dominance of the richer countries. Countering the torpedo boat led to the development of a very fast gun-armed warship that could keep the torpedo boats away from the battle line. These were called "torpedo boat destroyers", later shortened to just "destroyers". This was basically the state of naval warfare in 1914 -- Cruisers to defend or interdict commerce, Torpedo boats to defend coastal waters and destroyers to counter them, and battleships and battlecruisers to fight the decisive battle. The Germans spent some of their "cruiser money" on an entirely new and unproven warship type called the submarine, but the other navies were unimpressed until a world war broke out in August of that year. By 1918, the great naval powers, principally the British and the Americans, figured out some things based on real battle experience. (1) The battleship was still top dog, but very expensive to build and operate. (2) The merchant cruiser was almost useless. Even in times of war, merchant ships did better service carrying cargo than guns. (3) Submarines were dangerous. (4) Torpedo boats were not quite so dangerous. (5) Destroyers were fantastically effective. A navy could never have enough of them. (6) The battlecruiser was a flawed concept that was soon to be replaced by a new form of battleship, the fast battleship.
@RRR-hj6bt
@RRR-hj6bt 11 ай бұрын
I disagree with the title “The Dumbest Battleship of WW2” The crew of this ship were real sailors
@nedkelly9688
@nedkelly9688 11 ай бұрын
No dumbest was crew on USS Bagley who sunk Australia HMAS Canberra at Savo Island WW2. Why USA has named 2 US ships after her..
@josephfenech9401
@josephfenech9401 10 ай бұрын
Agreed!
@lazbing8224
@lazbing8224 10 ай бұрын
No one can doubt the crew's bravery and resolve being hit time after time and seeking to continue service when massively outnumbered. Nothing 'dumb' about that IMHO.
@samkornrumph8545
@samkornrumph8545 10 ай бұрын
Also, NOT a battleship.
@TheTrueHistory
@TheTrueHistory 10 ай бұрын
The video’s title should be “The most heroic Heavy Cruiser of WW2”.
@dennisleighton2812
@dennisleighton2812 11 ай бұрын
Mogami seemed to be involved in an unusual number of collisions and friendly fire incidents. Strange.
@toekneekerching9543
@toekneekerching9543 10 ай бұрын
Mogami thought she was American.
@billwalker9509
@billwalker9509 11 ай бұрын
It would appear that the IJN needed better training for their navigators, helmsmen, and lookouts based on all the collisions their ships suffered.
@DaveGIS123
@DaveGIS123 11 ай бұрын
Bumpers would have been a good idea, too.
@scorpion19142001
@scorpion19142001 11 ай бұрын
"Oh" great why didn't you tell them that?🤣🤣🤣😂
@babamukuru666
@babamukuru666 10 ай бұрын
So, two nitpicks: Calling Mogami a "battleship" is quite misleading and I'm not sure if you can call a Japanese heavy cruiser sinking assets of the Japanese army friendly fire, at least when looking at the relationship between these two entities
@joe4171
@joe4171 6 ай бұрын
Right!!! They were literally assassinating each others members and supporters in the government in an attempt to give themselves a larger role in their outward expansion. Most people don’t realize the entire Marco Polo bridge incident and the Manchurian occupation was due to the armies insubordination in trying to prove that pushing North into Siberia was the right path to take for external resources.
@The67wheelman
@The67wheelman 10 ай бұрын
I bet the grin on that divers face was brighter than his worklight lol
@paulfryejr2918
@paulfryejr2918 10 ай бұрын
Interesting historical report, thanks.
@robertwaid3579
@robertwaid3579 10 ай бұрын
Again that was another Great Documentary on a Very illustrious Ship with what was a Truely special, and unique Story too Tell. Thank You.
@Area51UFOGynaecology
@Area51UFOGynaecology 11 ай бұрын
mogami is not a battleship, thats a different kind of ship
@jordanhys4166
@jordanhys4166 11 ай бұрын
A cruiser
@johnbroadway4196
@johnbroadway4196 11 ай бұрын
I have to congratulate the Narrator on how well this is spoken. I thoroughly enjoy this channel. ❤
@erintyres3609
@erintyres3609 11 ай бұрын
Wow, so many collisions and friendly fire attacks that I lost count.
@ralfhtg1056
@ralfhtg1056 11 ай бұрын
The thumbnail already contradicts the title. It shows a heavy cruiser of the Mogami Class and no battleship.
@jeremycrisp4488
@jeremycrisp4488 11 ай бұрын
Was it a cargo ship? No. Was is a passenger ship? No. It was a ship and it did battle, therefore it was a battleship.
@ralfhtg1056
@ralfhtg1056 11 ай бұрын
@@jeremycrisp4488 You just showed that you have NO CLUE about military ships in general. It is NOT a battleship! It is a heavy crusier. Now go educate yourself and leave me alone.
@jeremycrisp4488
@jeremycrisp4488 11 ай бұрын
@@ralfhtg1056 you're probably one of the many people who argue about how many bullets can fit in an ar15 clip.
@ralfhtg1056
@ralfhtg1056 11 ай бұрын
@@jeremycrisp4488 No, because this is literally irrelevant in Germany due to much stricter gun laws. So try to find better arguments.
@jeremycrisp4488
@jeremycrisp4488 11 ай бұрын
@@ralfhtg1056 geeze, try being more consistent. You're complaining like an old woman about naval terminology but yet I throw out the term "clip" for a rifle that uses a magazine and it sails right over your head. Here ya go. The Sturmgeschütz III was a cool tank.
@steveclark5357
@steveclark5357 11 ай бұрын
@ 6:27 ,b-17's were not on any aircraft carriers
@rikk319
@rikk319 10 ай бұрын
But they were based on Midway Island.
@Anglomachian
@Anglomachian 10 ай бұрын
History of Mogami: - and then she collided with another ship -
@zaphoddog3878
@zaphoddog3878 10 ай бұрын
FYI...the presenter clearly is referring to the cruiser Mogami as a "battleship" in the title because the ship was mistaken for a battleship by the American navy both in the aftermath of Midway and Surigao Strait.
@andreidescult
@andreidescult 10 ай бұрын
IIRC a british naval architect took one look at the Mogami and said "They're either building this out of cardboard or lying." We know now it was actually a bit of both.
@jaturnley
@jaturnley 10 ай бұрын
No ship in WWII was dumber than the USS William D. Porter - Mogami was a fine ship with a valiant crew.
@jamesallen8838
@jamesallen8838 11 ай бұрын
B-17 bomber from CV’s really ( at. the 6:25 ) or was this just poorly spoken ?
@rikk319
@rikk319 10 ай бұрын
They were based at the airfield on Midway Island, and even took part in the Battle of Midway, though they made no hits on the invasion fleet.
@jamesallen8838
@jamesallen8838 10 ай бұрын
Thanks Make way more sense@@rikk319
@rwoodward8839
@rwoodward8839 10 ай бұрын
Awesome that you didn't read the chapters aloud this time. I saw and read them in the subtitles, thanks!😁
@glenndavis4452
@glenndavis4452 10 ай бұрын
Was that three or four collisions with ships in their own navy ? Not sure if any other ship made it through that much damage tho.
@jeffpotipco736
@jeffpotipco736 11 ай бұрын
I think Japanese heavy cruisers were good looking ships. I always wanted to build a model.
@KonradvonHotzendorf
@KonradvonHotzendorf 10 ай бұрын
I 😍 modeling, but not boats takes forever 😅
@KonradvonHotzendorf
@KonradvonHotzendorf 10 ай бұрын
I built the Hood. Cool model, but never again
@jeffpotipco736
@jeffpotipco736 10 ай бұрын
@@KonradvonHotzendorf why not?
@jessgatt5441
@jessgatt5441 10 ай бұрын
I am of the opine that if there can be such a thing as an unlucky ship then Mogami was one.
@Tommygunn776
@Tommygunn776 11 ай бұрын
Darn pickle lockers
@dennisgalvin-u6q
@dennisgalvin-u6q 10 ай бұрын
It’s not really established whether the friendly fire torpedoes came from the Mogami or the Fubuki. They had to be Japanese ones because the Perth didn’t fire any and the Houston wasn’t equipped with any.
@Shogun459
@Shogun459 11 ай бұрын
OOPS 6:18 Please Explain, , , How did those B-17's launch from Hornet and Enterprise?
@christopherburnham1612
@christopherburnham1612 11 ай бұрын
Had me wondering too, 😂😂😂😂😂
@scorpion19142001
@scorpion19142001 11 ай бұрын
"They", Magic wands.
@markhillary7402
@markhillary7402 11 ай бұрын
After successfully launching the B-25s of the Doolittle Raid, the Navy got a little too cocky for their own good, and the hapless B-17s were instantly transferred to the Submarine fleet.
@CaseyTheBrash
@CaseyTheBrash 11 ай бұрын
Midway, they launched from Midway Airfield.
@thhseeking
@thhseeking 11 ай бұрын
He confused them, like a WTC conspiracy nut went around telling people how a B52 crashed into the Empire State Building and that never collapsed. He's either lying, confused, or his researcher was confused...a B25 *did* plough into the Empire State Building. There's a huge difference.
@seanbigay1042
@seanbigay1042 10 ай бұрын
It may be just as well that Mogami was sunk during the war. Had she survived ... "Well, at least we survived the war! What could possibly happen next?" *SKREEEOOONNNGGGKKK!* "AW, COME ON!"
@Dave5843-d9m
@Dave5843-d9m 10 ай бұрын
The dumbest battleships were Yamato and Musashi. Too big to be useful and too expensive to waste in combat.
@YTsnowflakeaccomodationnonenee
@YTsnowflakeaccomodationnonenee 10 ай бұрын
2:30 "...cold water fountains, and even pickle lockers..." Pickle lockers?? LOL Had to lock pickles up, did they? How weird.
@tsuaririndoku
@tsuaririndoku 10 ай бұрын
Mogami class, is a Light Cruiser that designed to the point that they can easily modified when War Brokeout to armed as Heavy Cruiser. Japanese Heavy Cruisers tends to be armed to the teeth. More heavily armed than US Navy Heavy Cruisers. BUT, it doesn’t mean it is a Battleship or Battlecruiser. They are in the end a Cruiser with Cruiser armor. It doesn’t have beefy armor as a Battleship. Nor Battlecruisers. It should not be considered as a Battleship. I swear people can’t tell ship classes these days. Not every boat with a gun is equal to Battleships. Battleships are the ships that fight with another Battleships. They were designed to be armed and fight as long as possible. They were designed to be in the “Battle”. Destroyers are designed to Destroy things. With its deathly torpedoes. Cruisers are jack of all trades, they were designed to to cruise around the sea for sea security. That’s why many cruisers have good speed.
@kristelvidhi5038
@kristelvidhi5038 10 ай бұрын
How does having 15 8 inch guns make this a dumb ship? That's liks saying Yamato having the biggest naval guns ever used in action is dumb.
@frankohrt3347
@frankohrt3347 10 ай бұрын
Actually, the Yamato was pretty dumb. It suctioned up immense resources that could have been effectively used elsewhere, and never put its huge guns to effective use. It was the war's biggest white elephant., built essentially to be gloriously destroyed in a final cataclysmic battle.
@kristelvidhi5038
@kristelvidhi5038 10 ай бұрын
@@frankohrt3347 it's Admiral Kurita's fault, becuse he didn't have Yamato destroy Taffy 3, with her massive guns . He denied Yamato's only chance to be Historically famous. It's always the leader's fault why a battle doesn't go well, it's neither the Combatants, or the weapons.
@darrenjohns8694
@darrenjohns8694 10 ай бұрын
Mogami didn't have 15 8 inch guns, she had 10. Before the refit she had 15 155mm guns.
@kristelvidhi5038
@kristelvidhi5038 10 ай бұрын
@@darrenjohns8694 that's still a lot of guns. Mogami is one of IJN's most famous ships.
@GermanShepherd1983
@GermanShepherd1983 10 ай бұрын
At 6:24, the B17's didn't come from the carriers Enterprise and Hornet, they came from Midway
@josephradley3160
@josephradley3160 10 ай бұрын
Neglected to mention that Perth had run out of ammunition before she went down and Houston's rear turret had been unserviceable for days.
@peregrinemccauley5010
@peregrinemccauley5010 10 ай бұрын
It was only after HMAS Perth ran out of ammunition, that she started to take a heavy pounding, before taking four torpedo hits, which put her under.
@3p1kduck
@3p1kduck 11 ай бұрын
Ah, this one lasted longer than the others usually do before you changed the thumbnail and title.
@bazeye
@bazeye 10 ай бұрын
I enjoyed the video, but the title is strange, how can a ship be dumb, it's design could be, but the actual ship ?
@mostlynew
@mostlynew 10 ай бұрын
Dumbest video title
@arkhsm
@arkhsm 10 ай бұрын
It actually withstood an inferno of attacks if you ask me....more than impressive !!
@samsignorelli
@samsignorelli 10 ай бұрын
No mention of Oldendorf's crossing of the Japanese T? Last time it happened in a naval battle.
@loganblack6572
@loganblack6572 11 ай бұрын
Would the wreck be technically haunted too
@chrisburke624
@chrisburke624 11 ай бұрын
Probably. Underwater ghosts are a thing 👻
@isopowered5004
@isopowered5004 11 ай бұрын
Just can't win.
@MaJieMao
@MaJieMao 9 ай бұрын
Man Mogami ran into other ships a lot.
@polaris6644
@polaris6644 11 ай бұрын
IJN Mogami was as much of a battleship as she was useful to the Imperial Japanese war effort. Results being, she wasn't.
@markgarin6355
@markgarin6355 9 ай бұрын
B-17 from a carrier?
@wilsonpickett3881
@wilsonpickett3881 10 ай бұрын
Seems like a pretty lucky cruiser to me.
@FrancisFjordCupola
@FrancisFjordCupola 11 ай бұрын
So much "friendliness" in Japan's firepower... I think their IFF is labelled "just shoot, go ahead, press the red button."
@jimwolaver9375
@jimwolaver9375 10 ай бұрын
At 6:27: "as B17 bombers and dive bombers from carriers Enterprise and Hornet..." Unbelievable.
@markmuldoon805
@markmuldoon805 11 ай бұрын
How about HMAS Perth and it's demise as a vid?
@hotironaircraftshop
@hotironaircraftshop 11 ай бұрын
Speaking of mis-identifying a cruiser for a battleship, what about the title of this clip?
@Fiasco3
@Fiasco3 10 ай бұрын
Yup this is the greatest up sell of an allied victory out there. Poor cruiser does it's best against superior odds including air-attack plus a battleship line and gets sunk.. woopie..
@richardw64
@richardw64 11 ай бұрын
Some inaccuracies as usual. I mean B17s??? Just don't get me started on those pickle lockers !
@Ivellios23
@Ivellios23 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, I never heard of a B17 Dive Bomber.
@rikk319
@rikk319 10 ай бұрын
B-17s were based at the airfield on Midway Island.
@jyvben1520
@jyvben1520 10 ай бұрын
reminds me of the lyric "war what is it good for"
@gspaulsson
@gspaulsson 11 ай бұрын
Was the Notori the flagship of the Notorious class?
@EXRazeBurn
@EXRazeBurn 10 ай бұрын
Might be more technically correct to replace "Battleship" with "Warship", as that term can apply to any miltary sea faring vessel. But hey, what do I know?
@ernestocro7013
@ernestocro7013 10 ай бұрын
They like colliding and friendly fire 🔥
@frankodo3251
@frankodo3251 10 ай бұрын
Mogami was a heavy cruiser according with thexststutes of the naval treaties in effect at the time and in NO way a battleship. Her crew was probably one of the best at damage control of every ship in the IJN.
@vaughnmojado8637
@vaughnmojado8637 11 ай бұрын
The Mogami hit everything except for the rice cooker. It was bound to sink. Haha!
@Mrmashed68
@Mrmashed68 10 ай бұрын
Pickle lockers. I've been studying WW2 for decades and that's a first.
@K5Cruz
@K5Cruz 11 ай бұрын
Carrier based B-17s, huh?
@benv5812
@benv5812 10 ай бұрын
ya, they launch the B's first, then the 1's, finally the 7's. Form up and you have a B-17...!!!!
@rikk319
@rikk319 10 ай бұрын
They were based at the airfield on Midway Island.
@Ciborium
@Ciborium 11 ай бұрын
Naw, USS William D Porter was WAY dumber than the IJN Mogami.
@jaredrevis4594
@jaredrevis4594 10 ай бұрын
"Dumbest Battleship" Thumbnail: a heavy cruiser Video topic: a heavy cruiser Good lord
@stephennewton2223
@stephennewton2223 10 ай бұрын
Despite the title, this does not seem to be about any battleships.
@tswizard13
@tswizard13 10 ай бұрын
Think you mean warship , not battleship , warships were often misidentified as to classification. Properly identifying targets is crucial to using correct ammunition . Unarmored ships (DDs, DEs, etc) need only HE rounds. CL, CA, BC, and BB require AP (Armor Piercing) rounds. At Leyte Gulf the Japanese misidentified the US ships as cruisers and battleships and used AP rounds that with delayed fuses passes through their thin hulls without exploding.
@robroaring7175
@robroaring7175 9 ай бұрын
Wtf is a “Pickle Walker”? And how did it contribute to the ships demise?
@sirridesalot6652
@sirridesalot6652 10 ай бұрын
13:27 into the video and I have yet to see anything about a Dumb Battleship. Where is it? I so wish that makers of videos about military items would get their terminology right.
@craigmorris4083
@craigmorris4083 10 ай бұрын
Just have to point out that the title is "Dumbest Battleship" while Mogami is constantly referred to as a cruiser.
@TraderRobin
@TraderRobin 10 ай бұрын
Um...precisely, WHEN did B-17s ever take off from aircraft carriers??
@0nevadajim
@0nevadajim 10 ай бұрын
Who was driving this thing 😮?
@tonyhaslam186
@tonyhaslam186 10 ай бұрын
B-17’s were never on a carrier. They either came from Midway, or there weren’t any.
@じゃがいも-n8j
@じゃがいも-n8j 10 ай бұрын
最上はFMMネームシップとしてぶじ復活しました。今もがみ型は8隻目であと残すは24年度内の4隻です。来年25年度予算からはFMMG型の建造が推定8隻~12隻(当初はFMM24隻予定でしたが急遽FMM12と発展型FMMG12になりました。)がスタートします。まるでかつての88艦隊構想か特型駆逐艦24隻への回帰のようでもあり、事態がかつてのように深刻な様子がわかります。旧巡洋艦ネームがまた使われる可能性が高いですが、個人的には睦月型駆逐艦の名をよみがえらせて統一させて揃えてほしいですね。 俺はとにかく4番艦の卯月に会いてえんだよ!!!
@JosephKano
@JosephKano 10 ай бұрын
Change 'Battleship' to 'warship' Probably change 'dumbest' to 'unluckiest' maybe? Even then I'm not so sure... So yeh a tad ckickbaity title guys.
@johnschofield9496
@johnschofield9496 10 ай бұрын
B-17's sent from aircraft carriers? REALLY?..... Whoops !
@DragonSt3alth
@DragonSt3alth 10 ай бұрын
a cruiser is a warship, not a battleship...
@emomuzz5883
@emomuzz5883 10 ай бұрын
Duh, battleship!
@chrislong3938
@chrislong3938 11 ай бұрын
The title of this video seems completely wrong!
@ronaldmead7643
@ronaldmead7643 10 ай бұрын
If this is talking about the Mogami it was a cruiser not a battleship
@scottthomas8894
@scottthomas8894 10 ай бұрын
MY DAD WAS ON THAT BOAT, AND HE WASNOT STUPID
@JeovahLovesYou
@JeovahLovesYou 10 ай бұрын
More like Ironheart Mogami
@jerrydowns4978
@jerrydowns4978 10 ай бұрын
Came here hoping to learn about a battleship. Leaving disappointed...
@rach8710
@rach8710 10 ай бұрын
the clickbait titles keep getting worse.....
@tommytwotacos8106
@tommytwotacos8106 10 ай бұрын
You guys are better off watching Drachinifel's guide to the IJN Mogani if you want better information.
@RatusPretentious
@RatusPretentious 11 ай бұрын
BS! HMAS Perth was stopped, but damage control brought it back online before the Houston fell out!
@Giantsfanghg
@Giantsfanghg 10 ай бұрын
That’s not a BB it’s a CA
@johndaniel3540
@johndaniel3540 11 ай бұрын
Their damage control is good but the rest naaaaaaah
@gayprepperz6862
@gayprepperz6862 11 ай бұрын
Mogami was neither a battleship or a battlecruiser. I'm reminded why I don't waste my time clicking on your link. Your info is always half@ss.
@Bodneyblue
@Bodneyblue 10 ай бұрын
Wonder how many extra comments he's got by saying it's a battleship and not a heavycruiser?..Just me commenting this gets him an extra comment!...Nice!...Bump up them comment scores....
@scorpion19142001
@scorpion19142001 11 ай бұрын
Dumbest Battleship of WW2? What boat was the dumbest?
@Joe-j5j1u
@Joe-j5j1u 11 ай бұрын
Remind me not to sail w Japanese sailors. Unless its like a demolition derby or something lol.....
@Dr_Larken
@Dr_Larken 11 ай бұрын
Free, Dark Seas cookies!
@michaelturner5050
@michaelturner5050 11 ай бұрын
Why do you gotta be so weird bro?
@jobrodie7514
@jobrodie7514 10 ай бұрын
Not a battleship then.
@admiralradish
@admiralradish 10 ай бұрын
I hate videos with spoilers. If you are going to tell the story in the first 30 seconds MAKE THE VIDEO 30 SECONDS LONG!!! Otherwise cut the spoiler and tell the story.
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