The WASTED Potential of Scream Queens | Let's talk about the show |

[@aishlelle]

I really loved Season 1, I wish they kept the college vibe or were still in college in Season 2.

[@briannalee1998]

And Grace

[@santicoronas7220]

Is season 2 was set at college it would have been much more interesting

[@meIatonin]

i feel like it would be slightly repetitive and make no sense that the new season is still in college if the killer is already “found”. i think the season should’ve taken place in the asylum instead tho.

[@bobsburgers8497]

They should’ve gone to like a summer camp hosted by the college or something

[@hotpinkminisk1rts]

i agree, or i wish that they had continued with hester grace and zayday being the leaders of KKT and then the chanels and chanel trying to get KKT back in there rule and people getting killed off by a NEW killer or new characters, idk.

[@lunabrown260]

Also your point on college stories 💯 literally we barley ever get college stories and instead get high schoolers living the most inappropriate and unrealistic lifestyles lmao 😂😂🙄🙄

[@MG-bt2xs]

If you want a great drama about college watch Greek! its on hulu!

[@fantasticcarlie252]

fr the constant sexualization of characters that are literally children is honestly a bit concerning. You can take almost every story with teenage characters and the story wouldn't change at all if the characters were adults.

[@chloejames9603]

No bc tv shows will sexualize teenagers so bad when young adults with interesting stories to tell are right there ...

[@Feliciatanktop]

I used to be a substitute teacher and had lots of conversations with the teens and a lot of them don’t like the current teen shows. They all really loved Freaks and Geeks, it was relatable. Idk why teen shows right now all show teenagers having sex everyday, barely any parental supervision, wild parties every weekend, drugs everywhere. Most kids literally just go to school and go home lol

[@Whackadoo1]

@@fantasticcarlie252 yes and no, for the most part. It's a complicated subject but I do agree we need more quality college stories.

[@alanasmith1882]

I feel like Ryan Murphy makes aesthetically pleasing shows with interesting concepts but he can easily loose his drive when his shows gets too long. Like I can be fully in love with his shows but then randomly thru time things start getting annoying lol

[@davidkonevky7372]

I feel like he rushes his ideas to completion too quickly and it backfires on him. Instead of questioning "is this the best choice I could make? is there any way to make this better?", he just places the tracks while he's riding the train.

[@angxlpeach]

And its obvious with the finale for S1 imo. The finale felt rushed and out of nowhere for me.

[@sofiarodriguez6768]

@@angxlpeach YES, i remember not just being dissapointed with the ending but genuinely thinking that it was so poorly done.

[@angxlpeach]

@@sofiarodriguez6768 it was so hastily done and poorly done. Imagine if the reveal was Grace being the one who orchestrated everything but I guess we can’t have everything.

[@sofiarodriguez6768]

@@angxlpeach they could've done soooo much. The possibilities weren't endless but there were a lot of strong contenders on who did it why and how. Not to mention that they really should have just killed off a chunk of the cast for the finale. It was just too much and yet not enough.

[@bizziegrace]

literally 95% of the shows I see that are set in high school i just think "this would make so much more sense if they were in college"

[@dxiisey6288]

Fr, and all of the high-school ones are so unrealistic and inappropriate 😭

[@spiritualsnail1584]

Scream Queens is proof that really, it's not that difficult to just say college instead of highschool

[@LaptapGamer]

You’d be suprised what goes down in big high schools

[@Exalted_in_Venus]

The fist season was soo campy, cringy and funny. I loved it. The actors were all fantastic in their roles and worked off each other so well. I cried laughing during the backstreet boys scene too.

[@chloejames9603]

Omggg the chainsaw scene with everybody playing in the background was hysterical 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@arislamb35]

my fave death was the deaf tswift fan lmao

[@squiddyft.insecurities3549]

okay people always say ryan murphy shows are campy and i’m not sure what that means

[@Exalted_in_Venus]

@@squiddyft.insecurities3549It means something is absurdly exaggerated. In a movie or TV show playing up a theme ore certain elements of a theme in a humorous way. So, in a show that is gory and horrific they play it up to the point that you can't take anything seriously and it becomes funny. Or when an outfit or song is so over the top it's just absurd and funny. It can be something light hearted too. I hope that was an okay explanation. 🙂

[@RIPmichael22]

Oh wow I can’t tell you how long I’ve been waiting for this comment 😆 I remember crying and not being able to breathe from the ridiculous hilarity of that scene 😆 😆 “i say, we get roided up, get a bunch of baseball bats and roam the streets calling the Red Devils name until he comes out and fights us” 😆😆🤣😭😭 so fkn funny

[@leoparlo]

I need a Chanel reality show, in style like Keeping up with Kardashians. Those interview would be fire

[@indeeruh]

wait this is brilliant

[@perdasche]

Why does this sound so good wtf?

[@javiermoney365]

omg yes!!

[@400lux7]

I also love if they include dead pledges and Chanel#2. those characters have so much potential.

[@Louise-wk5yf]

For Season 3

[@jessicamessicaa]

just here to say if they made grace the red devil it would’ve made a way better show

[@Cxrter]

I’m guessing that was the plan for season 3

[@kuntybanks5374]

@@Cxrter Yeah, when S2 Chanel in the final episode got into the car and the red devil was there it was obviously Grace. Her dad mentioned that she was in a mental asylum because of the traumas The Chanels gave her. She then got out and is gonna start killing them all.

[@GenZealous]

@@Cxrter nah, Grace should have been the killer in the first season, not Hester.

[@shayesultan]

@Kunty Banks Jamie Lee Curtis revealed that she was the red devil at the end of season 2

[@littlebigbunnyrabbit9520]

@@GenZealous would've made her character more interesting for sure

[@lucasorlando99]

Scream Queens originally was going to be an anthology show with each season being a different story with the same tone but then after season 1 they decided to continue to continue with the same characters and decided that it was gunna change settings each season but then it got canceled after season 2 apparently the original idea for season 2 was an 80s Summer Camp bc Fox trademarked Scream Queens: Summer Camp which I guess Ryan Murphy recycled that idea Foe American Horror Story:1984

[@trinaq]

That actually makes sense. It seemed that they changed the original format at the last minute, but keeping the original cast sort of backfired, since we knew that they had no real chance of being the killer, so the mystery element evaporated.

[@breajones4012]

The anthology series would have been sooooo fun, I loved the first season but really hated the second mainly because of the setting. I would have loved to see new characters in a brand new setting. Season 1 will always be one of the greatest horror comedies of all time.

[@MG-bt2xs]

That makes a lot of sense I really feel like the show wouldve worked better without the same cast.

[@rodrlalatod2801]

@@MG-bt2xs Nah, it was still on the FOX network. They were gonna cancel it after season 2 regardless.

[@Alexis-dq5ko]

Wouldn’t have Ryan Murphy taken a lot of heat though for basically copying his AHS idea? I feel like the main reason he decided to keep the characters was because if he had done a different theme with the same cast, but a whole entire different storyline, people were going to just call it another AHS and bash it endlessly, never living up to the hype of AHS. I don’t know, maybe that could be why he decided to keep the characters?

[@selaraye5567]

i’ll never get over ariana texting the murderer to stop. so good

[@ketz4054]

"just look at glee" 🤣 it's sad how both shows were great when they were being satirical. everything after that is some kind of mess... great video!

[@tuopsy]

once the shows starts taking itself too seriously, it starts to suck.

[@auggie1.0]

lets blame ryan murphy

[@eee9266]

Every Ryan Murphy directed show comes full force with great potential, which is ultimately lost due to lazy writing. The only consistently good shows he has on his credit are the American crime story series, and Pose. And I wouldn’t even give him credit for pose.

[@neivilde.1242]

oh i loved that show so much! i loved the ending of season one. the only thing that confused me in s2 was like, why are they still associating with a known killer lmao, i know ryan loves lea but like, let her go

[@lunabrown260]

Literally 😂😂 it’s so obvious he has faves, he could have realistically kept them all if he just changed the characters every season

[@mika8453]

yes! it literally made no sense, even for the others to be working in a hospital but literally this murderer was just,,,,working?left by herself? lmao what

[@JaiProdz]

It has a cult audience now, memes and people like the fashion/aesthetic and it's seen on moodboards and such. It was ahead of it's time, but wasn't wiithout flaws. I can see it coming back as a netflix film or something ,maybe with 90s scream queens and the channels, keke this time

[@rodrlalatod2801]

It always had their cult audience. It just gained further popularity over its streaming service release.

[@ishathompson8439]

Scream queens season one is a chaotic masterpiece we don’t talk about season two

[@bernardolopes1989]

Its so weird to think that critically, Season 2 fared way better, but Season 1 was WAY more enjoyable to watch!!

[@hutao9704]

season 1 was honestly perfect funny mysterious it was on of my best tv shows

[@ishathompson8439]

@@hutao9704 facts! 💯

[@paulae4033]

I also thought the Scream Queens pilot was so weird. I had no clue if it was supposed to be a horror or comedy, so it really intrigued me

[@sohogrunge]

I meannn it was clearly a comedy to me judging from the first scene

[@idiashpeza2800]

its both, duh

[@idk-uv7mt]

It’s in the dark Comedy section

[@hotpinkminisk1rts]

it was so long too, which was slightly odd to me.

[@trinaq]

I really agree with your insightful analysis! I loved the show's campy style in Season 1, and the fact that it never took itself TOO seriously, and embraced its own ridiculousness. The sudden switch to the hospital setting hurt the show's tone, and wasn't quite as fun or unpredictable as with the college environment.

[@BellesView]

Exactly!

[@solarvoid777]

Lets be real: the viewership issue probably comes down to Fox mostly pandering to adult men with immature humor (Family guy, American dad, etc). When their main userbase is not the target audience for a female lead, diverse satire, of *course* they weren't going to get as many people watching as they wanted. It's my theory that Scream Queens would have been more successful if it had been greenlit by a different studio. Granted, that wouldn't have solved the writing issues, but it probably would have given the show more of a fighting chance.

[@kuntybanks5374]

I feel like it would do great on HBO or Netflix if they ever choose to do a 3rd season (hopefully)

[@sebas8507]

agreed! i remember back when s2 aired many episodes were delayed for sports events so people were losing interest

[@Gamergirl-.-]

I like Family Guy, American Dad, and Scream Queens, but it makes sense that the same audience watching those shows wouldn’t be as interested.

[@zoejnobaptiste3332]

@@sebas8507 This is literally the reason I HATE baseball with the burning passion of a thousand suns. Back in high school I used to stop my homework on a Tuesday night to watch scream queens. It was literally built into my schedule!! And there was this one time it didn't come on because of the 'World Series'. I was furious because I did not have time in my schedule to catch up again. Even half an hour after the time it was supposed to come on the stupid baseball game was still going on! :(

[@de-niall]

@@zoejnobaptiste3332 i mean, the world series is kinda the exception for this. Isn’t it kinda like the superbowl? where it is super big for its fans

[@yoni5570]

6:55 - 7:15. This is exactly why it didn’t work. He probably saw all the love pouring in for the Chanels and just gave the fans what they wanted instead of what we needed: an actual campy anthology slasher series without the supernatural element of AHS.

[@lilac.mascara]

This also backfired when he did ahs asylum Edit: I MEANT APOCALYPSE NOT ASYLUM

[@killrcupcake2994]

@@lilac.mascara I don't like asylum either but it's still one of the most liked seasons of all wdym??

[@lilac.mascara]

@@killrcupcake2994 oh shit not asylum I meant apocalypse

[@favhoneymoon]

@@lilac.mascara yes it was more of coven than apocalypse you get me ?

[@nataliawashington872]

Yeah they should’ve made 1984 Scream Queen’s Season 2 minus everything supernatural about it and it would’ve been perfect!

[@vivalasammm]

i honestly didn't mind season 2, i still would've kept watching solely for the characters and how funny it was

[@romeblanchard3419]

I always say this “Scream Queens Season 1 belongs in a museum while season 2 well let’s just forget about its existence”

[@JonnaDogers]

I feel like season 2 became exactly what they were parodying in season 1

[@adra7129]

What did u use to watch season 2

[@Nolongerapresidentcandidate]

@@adra7129 i used soap2day or you can watch it on hulu

[@javiermoney365]

this i feel the same!

[@gerardosanchez6592]

scream queens was farrrr ahead of it’s time i’ll never get over how everyone let this flop. changing the place and keeping the same cast every season could work like it has with AHS if they can manage to come up w interesting concepts. i hope they come back with season 3

[@rhaenyraitargaryen6360]

They should make a season 3 where the 2nd season was just a fever dream in the asylum lmao.

[@romeblanchard3419]

Omg yaas

[@Salmy3]

This is genious, it might save them some dignity and give them a fresh start. If S3 doesn't start like this, I won't be warching!

[@5jwiqiojwio217]

i would 100% love that especially because that would fit into the outrageous humour and explain why the second season felt like a rip off of the first

[@rhaenyraitargaryen6360]

@@5jwiqiojwio217 and it would be great if the Chanels are gonna work their way to the top of Kappa after getting released from the asylum while a murderer chases them hahaha.

[@Valentineatelier]

Hold on you’re onto something

[@jasonesmero5255]

You can see how Lea Michele IS Ryan's favorite despite so many Glee Talents can actually pull off so many characters on Scream Queens or AHS. She played Hester as Rachel Berry but a killer.

[@Valentineatelier]

I see that 100%, this is coming from someone who was introduced to lea from SQ and not glee, i started watching it later in life, but i most definitely see similarities.

[@misanthr0pic]

@@Valentineateliersome people can’t play new characters. see: type casting

[@izzyoswin]

i will literally never get over how predictable the "main" red devil killer was. they could have been so subversive by picking LITERALLY anyone else to be the killer other than the weird girl who has an obsession with murder and is the most obvious suspect. (i still think they should have made it no 5)

[@kuramacabre]

Or Chanel #4, since we never got to meet her.

[@felipe258929]

The great thing with Screen Queens is that it was perfect for streaming and not for TV. I believe streaming has a better chance of capitalizing on a niche show, specially if it's on a worldwide service. Pulling the plug on a show based exclusively on a dated Nielsen rating system based on US audience is something that I won't miss about TV

[@seanbrum9216]

They should've went with a whole detective/Scooby-Doo vibe that way they could keep the chanels but every season would be different based on the "mystery" they were solving

[@Dmed1]

I'd like to see the project revived with a fair plot. The actresses did phenomenal with what they were given and it deserves major plot expansion.

[@thomasho9319]

At this point, I feel like anything touched by Ryan Murphy is destined to be a problematic hit or a dumpster fire

[@madisonsabsoluterandomness5411]

One of my fave shows! I love Emma Roberts acting! And I feel like this iconic series isn’t spoken about enough

[@v4leree]

i loved the first season, Emma Roberts killed that role

[@henryglo]

"AHS works for Ryan Murphy because when the characters come back they can be killed again" Except if you're Sarah Paulson or Evan Peters. Hahaha.

[@iamspadesx4433]

Petition to have season 2 completely scrapped off from existance and release an OFFICIAL Scream Queens S2, where the film makers give justice to this awesome show!

[@rafaelvianaart]

MY DREAMMMMM😭😭😭😭😭 REMAKE THIS SEASON 2

[@teodorapetkovic]

The fact that I struggle with naming more than a few of TV shows set in college is... sad

[@lunabrown260]

You made me want to rewatch the show omg 😍😅

[@Reenieroo2]

It would of been so cool if each season was the same actors playing new characters in a different setting that played into classic slasher film tropes. Each time they change who the killer is and who the victims are and what order they get killed and how. And then after a few seasons it starts to revel that it was like some black mirror situation where these people are continuously re-spawning into these situations due to them being killers or something in real life. I think that would be a cool way to keep it interesting and fresh

[@joshseibert]

WOW. You read my mind! And I’m so glad there are other people out there still thinking about this show. I’ve never rewatched a series as much as the first season - heck, I’m probably beyond 20 (or 30?!) times now. There were definitely some questionably insensitive jokes and lines, but mostly I found the humor so great. Munsch and Chanel were scripted and casted perfectly. I still find myself quoting “Ms. Bean, I said let’s hit it!!!” and “I’m over it!!!” Plus, I really loved the music choices. But the second season is a different story. It was a chore to originally get through it and only got slightly easier on the second watch. I kind of wished they stopped while they were ahead - because the second season tarnishes the canon and overall quality, in my opinion.

[@19cosmo91]

Imagine if season 2 was centered around a group of mother's, one of the most commonly used archetypes in horror. Taking the mean girl mentality from season 1 and adding the self awareness of the show's tone to the more seasoned characters could have been great IMO. Imagine Brenda from Scary Movie as a parent with her friends and their children.

[@st3458]

The problem with Ryan Murphy is the man doesn’t just sit tf and worry about one project like he makes aesthetically pleasing shows but then you can tell they just write shit in because they don’t know what else to do or he literally will make a show pay attention to it for a couple of season then start another project but recently it seems he starts a new project after one season he just needs to focus on one show at a time and stop starting New shows when he’s bored with one show

[@liliebilie]

It will always be a mystery to me why college isn’t a setting that’s used more for shows

[@yoni5570]

Ryan said in an early interview around the Season 1 premiere that he planned the second season to be a Camp theme. Well I guess he kept his vision board for it and just applied it to Season 9 of AHS.

[@stevendarniel]

Which was a smart move because scream queens got canceled

[@sabrosavayaina]

the second they announced they were keeping the same characters for the next season I knew right there and then Scream Queens was in front of its demise, it had such great potential. I was not surprised at all with the outcome of that mess of a second season, which I'm shocked you even tried to rewatch.

[@ctrlj0shua]

I loved screen queens in the first season but in the second season it felt like they didn’t know what to do for it

[@VainVanitas]

I watched Scream Queens at first because it was partially filmed on my college campus (it was filmed between two universities that are right next to each other and actually share spaces, so I was familiar with all school locations) while I was still attending (graduated in 2017) and I love watching movies and being able to point out specific locations. I found it campy and interesting enough to watch season 2 and was a little disappointed when I found out it was canceled because it was something different at the time. I'm not sure how I feel about such a late return to the series, but I hope it can be done well.

[@sparksflylove]

This entire show feels like a fever dream

[@annysyoutube]

This was such a good review I completely agreed with all the criticism with the messy parts of the show! I loved the aesthetics and visuals of the whole show though, what situation would you have put the chanels in season 2 instead of a hospital??

[@angelosilva5880]

One of the comments above by " Lucas Orlando" says the 2nd season was supposed to be in a summer camp,hence fox trademarked "scream queens:summer camp",but since they decided not to kill the main cast ,they had to switch locations to a hospital.That summer camp idea is supposed to be recycled an used in American Horror Story: 1984,which is in a summer camp.I've watched both AHS and SC and that season of ahs always felt a bit off even in the anthology vibe of the show.It makes a lot of sense and would've been much better as a 2nd season os SC

[@HoneyBunny.]

An insane asylum was where I thought season 2 should logically go. With still following what the other characters from season 1 who weren't committed were doing. I don't know how they would get characters to go to the asylum to interact with the Channels', but I'm sure they could figure something out storyline wise that would make sense. I hope season 3 is going to be as good as the first one was!🤞

[@xoxo3896]

The first few episodes should have been in the mental hospital the Chanels were sent to in the finale of s1! That had so much potential and was aesthetically pleasing. Then they should have had them get out and back to KKT and have a new president and Chanel wanting her power back with the other chanels. They could have had the red devil or another killer or a copycat. They could have revolved the season around another secret of KKT because the sorority is so old it would have been believable. Them in Kappa had so much story to tell and potential

[@CheerUp2]

THANK YOU! LITERALLY NONE OF MY FRIENDS WANT TO WATCH THIS WITH ME. ITS SO GOOD

[@Brenda-xy8eu]

I did like that they would introduce characters and have them killed predictably but also have characters who have interesting story lines die suddenly. It made me scared for every character because it feels like everyone and anyone was expendable

[@BetterWithBob]

The first season isn't really a nod to Heathers. The show is heavy on the 90s nostalgia, and it draws more from a similar 1999 film called Jawbreaker - that has the bright, goofy tone Scream Queens was going for, and the idea of the popular girls being awful people who accidentally kill their friend and give the weird girl a makeover to become one of them (including changing her name). Jawbreaker was inspired by Heathers though

[@carmencaiin]

i feel like what they could’ve done is almost what pretty little liars did with having 1 mastermind that we have to figure out, but they also have helpers that go by the same name/costume. a direct continuation from season 1 with the chanels being in the mental hospital could have been good. they did that with the halloween movies for a while. or they could’ve done what the scream franchise did with each movie focusing on a different type of slasher stereotype. i also think that this show would’ve done much better on fx than fox. i hope that this show does come back in some way bc it is my all time favorite. i’ve also heard theories of the chanels or zaday coming back for an episode in the new “american horror stories” show that is coming out.

[@mybuffysummers]

I always adored how their sorority had the same letters as the shittiest dumpiest fraternity on the show Greek

[@littlesiradin4460]

Hope the season 3 will bring us to the vibe where you know less comedy and more on creepy, scary and jumpscare thing like The Conjuring, Holloween And Scream (comedy version) in one season

[@mirandajewell23]

Super excited for the Marley Rose video!

[@Zvwry]

I was so surprised there wasn’t a season 3

[@charliealvarez7227]

Scream Queens season 1 is a visual masterpiece with a weak storyline and NO logical sense at all, however, I always go back to watch it when I need inspiration. Their campy visuals are insanely good and, in my opinion, they help you forget/ignore the fact that the whole show makes no sense. Scream Queens remains as a genius work of art. ❤️ I just ignore season 2 tho hahaha I finished it but I pretend it never happened 😂

[@gard2310]

I absolutely fell in love with scream queens from the first episode 🤩🤩 Emma Roberts and Jamie Lee Curtis is just perfect

[@katherinealvarez9216]

I did like this show, but I didn't finish S02. I wish they went into the anthology route.

[@MrCarlosandres94]

The first season was such campy fun. I really enjoyed that first season in 2015. I probably rewatched it at least three times. By season 2, when I saw Stamos and Latner as new characters, I knew the second season was in trouble. I watch it and probably enjoyed it but, it felt like a downgrade.

[@Carlzz92]

This show made me love Keke Palmer. She really got to shine.

[@KNHarrison125]

To this day I still have to wonder if there was some truth to some of the rumors regarding this show. When they first started releasing teasers for the show they released one with Chanel wearing a shirt with the letters "KNT" on it and another with Zayday wearing a shirt with "KKT". Many speculated that they were in rival sororities. They then re-released teasers with Chanel wearing a "KKT" shirt and rumors started that early test audiences didn't like that "KNT" was a play on the word c*nt. And regarding the season 1 finale Ryan Murphy there were rumors that the script leaked and they changed it so more than 4 surviving

[@kelseydoll96]

ur videos always make me want to watch the show again!!

[@laoiseholohan-ish4248]

Legit exactly the same feeling, stopped watching on episode 5 season 2- I feel like the recent bad seasons of AHS have been trying to do a takeover of that style too

[@zaphreebee7671]

this show absolutely slaps. I thought S2's premise was dumb at first (now that ive watched greys anatomy tho I appreciate it more) but it got better as the season went on. I'm honestly happy they kept the same characters--they were created well and the interpersonal dynamics made the show for me. I think they ruined it by trying to stick with anthology idea tho. It was a big leap from college to hospital interns. Playing it slower, making each season slowly transition to a new setting, would have been less cringy. Say, season 2 was them in jail, season 3 a dormitory back at college, season 4 was summer camp, 5 was a workplace where the main cast was interning, season 6 was a mental hospital, season 7 they were all "living their normal lives" but were being targetted again so they reconnected, then season 8 was a hospital, maybe season 9 one of them was a teacher and it was at an elementary school. Idk. a hospital is really the highest stakes you can go. You can't really top it from there. I do applaud them on the writing because the back story to why they were at the hospital was well done but just such a reach. Another issue was them killing off so many good characters from S1 that S2 felt empty. I missed Nick

[@bingewatcherfanatic996]

Honestly episode 1 of season 2 was amazing and then they fucked up after that but you can see by the writing because each episode of season 2 was written by Brad and Ian . Ryan was busy with Season 6 of American horror story so he wasn't writing season 2 only episode 1 . A person can see the difference from season 1 and season 2 . But there is news that the show might get a rivial since Ryan Murphy confirmed he's working on a 3rd season

[@itsjinxnow4814]

The premise of Scream Queens was brilliant, the execution not so much. Ryan wrote characters so good (The Chanels) that he couldn’t get rid of and shot himself in the foot while doing so.

[@velvetdawson617]

lets be real here. You only watched the show for Chanel Oberlin's lines.

[@michaelstone5298]

Jamie Lee Curtis's character in Halloween fought pretty well I wouldn't call her a damsel in distress, that's not fair ತ_ʖತ

[@moonlightcorner1511]

I love the show even if season 1 or season 2 I love both of the seasons

[@floevs7960]

My idea for the finale was that, there was no killer, or the killer themselves dies somewhat throughout the season and what really happens is that after everyone caughts up that there was a serial killer in the loose they all individually use the opportunity to kill someone they hate and blame it on the killer, by the end of the show they all noticed that they were all the killer at some point and they just laugh it off as a misunderstanding I guess. And that plot idea would tie together perfectly with the mindset of people being mean and down to cruel to strangers online, even the most introverted people turn into monsters online because we don’t have to face any real consequences for any of what we say here and there is a level of anonymity, just like with the killers identity, the cast would that advantage of the fact that a mysterious masked killer was on the loose to act out on their most perverse ideas and just blame it on the secret killer.

[@michaelstone5298]

Oh my God I just watched the finale of Pretty Little Liars: Original Sin 😿😿😿😿😿 by Ryan Murphy's protege, Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa, (he was a co-executive producer on Glee for years and if I took over as showrunner last two seasons when Ryan Murphy left, wonton of course to make Riverdale 🙄 and the Chilling Adventures of Sabrina, 😒 and Katy Keene with Lucy Hale 😣 and now he's willing to Pretty Little Liars to the Riverdale universe, so far as I know he never worked on Scream Queens but he is trying Murphy's protoje and obviously Ryan influences him because Original Sin takes a lot from Scream Queens, that and 13 Reasons Why Hannah of course Riverdale and to some extent the original PLL, 😔☹️😕🥺😬

[@kallinky4364]

I didn’t like how Ariana was basically there to up the views of the show. She was literally there for like one episode and died

[@TheMrGothics]

Nah she had to leave early for her album tour

[@kallinky4364]

@@TheMrGothics exactly we were all excited for her to be there just for her to die the first episode😭

[@Serlina21343]

I never watched this Show but your Videos are so great that i still enjoyed this

[@mir1300]

if one of the chanels, grace, denisse, or chad were the killer(s) it would have been so much better. Hester,Gigi and Boone Were way to predictable. I still love the show tho.

[@xoxo3896]

The first few episodes should have been in the mental hospital the Chanels were sent to in the finale of s1! That had so much potential and was aesthetically pleasing. Then they should have had them get out and back to KKT and have a new president and Chanel wanting her power back with the other chanels. They could have had the red devil or another killer or a copycat. They could have revolved the season around another secret of KKT because the sorority is so old it would have been believable. Them in Kappa had so much story to tell and potential. We need the Chanels back in KKT! No changing characters and setting. And denise hemphfield and jamie lee curtis back as well

[@mischievousjr.9299]

I loved this show, season one was fantastic, loved it. Came out during the best year for the fans but it was ahesd of its time. The aesthetic was fantastic, the ear muffs Chanel #3 wore were iconic. Just overall a fantatic shiw. Season 2 was sorta ehh

[@PookeTard]

The downfall definitely began when season one had zero pay off. All of the theories and fan speculation kept the show relevant during the final episodes. Chanel and Grace being twins was the perfect answer to end the story but making the main killer Hester took away all surprise. It was obvious they wanted to make her stand out as the weirdo during the entire season so her being the killer wasn’t a shock rather, just a let down. Like you said most viewers didn’t really care because the show was never really serious to begin with but for the real fans it just put us off to the show.

[@hollyrose2418]

I still love season 1 of scream queens❤️❤️

[@jameel.world_]

This analysis is HITTING!!!!

[@YouTubeChannel-ru8ed]

The funniest part is that Ryan Murphy put in some glee characters like bro I just realized it

[@JSanime]

I loved this series up until the final 2 episodes of season one. The whole time I was like. The killer can't be that person.... It's too obvious. They're trying to fool everyone.... Then the killer was the person you thought. I think what happened is that people responded well to the season one characters so they had to change course to keep them alive and then also change course on season 2. Had they kept the AHS format of same actors, different characters, I think the show would have succeeded.

[@GenZealous]

People always look at me crazy when I say I enjoy SQ more than AHS, but it’s just, I’ve always loved slashers they are my favorite genre of horror. And I felt like the comedy in the first season kept the show entertaining and I loved the mystery aspect. Truly Scream Queens deserved better. ❤️🖤🤍!

[@stevenyacoub7884]

if he made each season different with the same actors like ahs and have 1 of them be the killer every time that would be super fun

[@gabrielsouza8480]

A cool theme they could have gone with to keep their cast would be reincarnation. Immagine if every season we got new characters, but they were basically the same characters with different names and in different time periods. Every time, a different character would be the killer, for some reason explained by the story, and the stakes would be not if we would get to see them again, but if they would get to live their lives at peace with their partners and friends. I think that would be awesome. The show could keep the same cast like Ryan wanted, keep the same dynamic between them, and it could explore new themes and places and time periods every season

[@luwirap]

I love this show.. I watched this whenever I dont want to think of anythinG! AHAHAH! I wish they continue for season 3! I miss my Chanels!

[@chaapters.]

This show is so iconic 💕

[@ubermaster1]

I swear Season 1 was a fever dream that I forever wish I could relive.

[@santicoronas7220]

I really hope they make a new season of the show!

[@Jonathontimblin7706gay]

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[@facuenlasnubes]

I would LOVE to have an ariana comeback in a possible season 3 but more like... as a villain, that would be great!

[@Bamgeutcutiepie]

season one is ICONIC❤️

[@leanna5057]

I loooved season 1 up until the end with the reveal of the whodunit. It was so obvious and I spotted it a mile away and thought there'd be a subversion of my expectation so when there wasn't I was like... ok, that's kinda anticlimactic. But the potential of the show before that finale was just incredible.

[@alyssapinon9670]

I feel the same way (SPOILERS AHEAD) In regards to Pete he kind of had school shooter incel vibes from the beginning so I wasn’t very surprised to find out he was one of the killers. He was supposed to be a nice guy but came across as more of a “nice guy”

[@taylorstep1413]

This show had so much to give to say Potential is an understatement. I thought this was cancelled because of Budgeting this cast is expensive so many well know people.

[@samwilliams9919]

I honestly think this show was meant to be an anthology with a new set of characters every season, especially seeing as Ryan originally said a character would die per episode. I think at some point he changed his mind and wanted to keep the characters which lead to its downfall..

[@taopanda98]

We NEED more college scene stories.

[@spaceyBISH]

The second season was not bad it was just okay. The story and the deaths were so rushed. The writing team was so mediocre they did a terrible job with the story, but the ending was okay.The only thing that made the show watchable was the actors who did great with what they were given. They should’ve made the second season about Grace and her dad snapping and murdering the Chanel’s as the Red Devil. Which would have made sense seeing as how what the Chanel’s did to grace was the entire reason for her dad being in the second season.

[@JustAHorrorShow]

Everyone I know who watched this show only knew about it because of me and I didn't even know about it until after it was cancelled. I'm so sad it didn't get to continue.

[@Fantastic_Beasts2025]

I gave up halfway through season 2. Loved Season 2.

[@davidkonevky7372]

To summarize: season 2 basically ruined the whole shtick of the first season which was "who would survive?" and "which people would die?" by making the same characters return. Because now, you basically already know the answer to most of these questions and you know that they aren't going to kill off a main important character as they have to return to the next season. Making the "slasher" part of the show pretty lackluster and ruining the concept of the show in the first place.

[@xsomili5501]

8:06i just started watching buffy s1 and have finished legacies s2. That girl on the left reminds me of Dark Josie

[@omar9268]

season 2 should’ve been summer camp themed ! I really hope ryan can bring it back in some way , whether that be a miniseries or a film

[@lunarose7639]

I really liked season one, it had an interesting tone and it was unpredictable. Season two was so different? By episode one of season two, I was able to guess who the killer was!

[@binauralbeatsadhd]

Season 1 was fun and I loved it. I liked (some of) the characters, especially Emma’s Chanel. I think that with her character becoming somewhat iconic to the show, it may have been a deciding factor as to why they didn’t put an end to the KKT storyline and created a new set of characters.