The WBF - "World Bodybuilding Failure" - Behind The Titantron - Episode 32 (Pt. 2)

Behind The Titantron
Wrestling Documentary
WBF Why Did it Fail
Vince McMahon Business Failures
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[@Wrestlelamia]

Don't forget to vote in the poll for the NEXT Behind The Titantron Episode!

[@MacStoker]

cheers, first part was great, looking forward to this, suggestions for vids......the rise and fall of UK wrestling on world of sport!

[@saikrish7976]

Wrestlelamia i voted for rise and fall of jake roberts you are my favourite youtube channel pls make atleast one behind the titratron episode per week.

[@Will-eh6xe]

thanks so much for the vid would like to see one about brian pilman sucide

[@dexx600]

The rise and fall of Gorgeous Ladies Of Wrestling and Powerful Women Of Wrestling The rise and fall of Championship Wrestling From Florida and promoter Eddie Graham's suicide. The rise and fall of Mid-South Wrestling and the Universal Wrestling Federation The Monday Night Wars The rise and fall of World Wrestling All-Stars The rise and fall of Dixie Carter The rise and fall of the American Wrestling Association The life and times of the Fabulous Moolah The rise and fall of Magnum T.A. The death of Art Barr The death of Eddie Gilbert The death of Brian Pillman The rise and fall of Pacific Northwest Wrestling The rise and fall of Detroit Wrestling and the Original Sheik

[@MacStoker]

im guessing folk like the rise and fall bit lol thats your series sorted mate, The rise and fall of........

[@YTC1234]

And we wonder why the WWF was going bankrupt in the mid 90s.

[@Hxhjli]

Sometimes expanding backfires just ask the nazis

[@MartianManHunter2258]

Ideas for future episodes: Jim Cornette vs Vince Russo The Dark Side of being a giant in wrestling The Firing of Mr Kennedy The death of Brian Pillman World Wildlife Foundation sues WWF Paige sex scandal

[@NickNitro03]

WWE vs WWF is a good idea. But the Paige thing is not a big deal, at all

[@10191927]

MartianManHunter2258 - Jim Cornette vs Vince Russo, nah. All Jim Cornette and Vince Russo do is complain about each other and how much they hate each other. Plus on Jim Cornette talking sense show all he ever does is talk about Russo. They deserve one another as far as I’m concerned.

[@10191927]

Luke . - No, it wasn’t. After all, Paige had her phone hacked and it was private and personal information that was illegally leaked. So more than likely this was probably settled privately and they either sued the people who leaked the videos or they’ve been criminally prosecuted. But in reality, Paige didn’t do anything wrong. Neither did Xavier or Maddox, they’re just as much victims in this case and it wasn’t their fault either. Granted I don’t think making sex videos is an entirely smart idea, especially on your phone. That’s just my opinion, but you have to ask if this wasn’t on her phone would this have happened? Again I’m not pointing any blame, but a little caution goes a long way.

[@ChrisWolff2013]

Rise and Fall of Paige would be a great video.

[@A-small-amount-of-peas]

Still could be argued that this was better value for money than funding Linda's runs for senate

[@Djarra]

Well she's now got a cushy job off Trump with a huge salary, even if she has no clue what the fuck she is doing.

[@sillygoose635]

@@Djarra lmao 😂

[@CinemaMacabro]

Man WBF crumbled apart towards the very end, and the XFL was another costly mistake. However, XFL had a lot of great Ideas, and It was pretty awesome to see an alternate football league!

[@RahubaatNeteru]

It's back

[@chubbycatfish4573]

I can't imagine buying a PPV to watch a bodybuilding contest.

[@deepblue8143]

James Douglas and I can't imagine watching the Super Bowl, to each his own right?

[@timmyt603]

Heath Vance it's quite different if you have cable because you don't have to pay extra for the superbowl.

[@punkem733]

@@timmyt603 heath is an idiot though.

Well if you're not into bodybuilding then why the hell would you even worry about it???

[@lTha208l]

@@deepblue8143except the Super Bowl isn’t boring and is the most popular event of the year lol

[@ggn3]

What about the Downfall of AWA? I've heard stories of Verne Gagne's stubborness to stick with the older wrestling traditions and failure to keep up with the changing direction of pro wrestling led to his company being ran into the ground, and I'd like to learn more about the company's decline in greater detail.

[@tonywilliams12]

ggn3 That's a great idea.

[@ForWhatItsWorth_]

I see where Vince got it from.

[@SuperThegreatone23]

Still the best series on KZbin. And will be in 2018.

[@BlutoNeee]

lou ferrigno was hilarious whenever he was on king of queens

[@TypicalIndian1981]

He is the hulk

[@marcduncan2640]

40 million ppv buys turned into 3000... yikes...

[@michaelrickard5343]

Kickin' back with an ICOPRO shake watching this. My tummy don't feel good but the video's AWESOME~!

[@hatednyc]

Michael Rickard damn, you drinking IcoPro. Wow. The Rickster's gonna die!

[@kenterminateddq5311]

U guys are joking, right??? The shake will literally make u sick??? Damn, is having an American Male body worth getting laid, u guys???

[@moubear32]

Michael Rickard world body building federation........ or roid Rangers gone wild. Lol!!

[@michaelrickard5343]

Projectile vomiting brother!

[@ajk]

and diarrhea too lol

[@YTC1234]

Could you do a series about IcoPro? The rise and fall and rise again of Lex Luger would be interesting too.

[@A-small-amount-of-peas]

Was there no one around Vince with the balls to tell him that there was no way PPV bodybuilding was ever going to catch on? The XFL wasn't such a far fetched idea to succeed nor WWF New York if they were ran correctly but paying 20 bucks to see roided up guys flex?! Cmon

[@A-small-amount-of-peas]

For Redwall made Gary Strydom some serious scratch for sure. Talk about a night on the town that guy had. Just look at that mass.

[@Djarra]

The thing was Mr Olympia constantly outsold both WCW and WWF PPVs at the time, so it wasn't like there wasn't a market out there, its just that Vince couldn't get it.

[@NotaPizzaGRL]

@@Djarra No one wanted to see weird ass skits with muscled up men posing. Just hearing about the two ppv in these videos made it sound horrible.

It couldn't catch on like wrestling. It's not like the guys can compete week after week for fans to learn about them. People have to stop trying to look at it that way. The top competitors usually do 1 or 2 shows per year because the dieting can be ridiculously hard. Try going 1 to 3 days without drinking anything other than maybe getting a cup of ice chips to crunch on. Then pulling your carbs out so low to get your skin as thin as possible. Bodybuilding is a niche market and people who are into it have gladly paid to watch the Mr. Olympia on PPV.

[@elijahgalvan2794]

Vince: GARY STRYDOM WOOOOOOOOOOW!!!!!!

[@MacStoker]

LINDA? woooooooow looks like my likkle vinnymac STEPH? erm machos better SHANE?omfg wowowowowowowoow i need to jump off somethoing onto him hahahaha

[@elijahgalvan2794]

tacsmoker Vince: ROMAN REIGNS WOOOOOOOW!!!!! SUPERMAN PUNCH ME!!!!

[@MacStoker]

superman punch in his ass you say? lol

[@LuckyDT]

Lol so glad I’m not the only one who immediately went there.... WHAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWW!

[@alexanderarce3341]

How about The rise and fall of Eric Bischoff in WCW?

[@MohamedAli-xu3uw]

Done

[@jpass7784]

Do a Behind the Titantron video of the Downfall of Dixie Carter’s TNA

[@brandonselitetv1436]

The Hogan Era(09-14) Was one of the darkest times in IMPACT Wrestling history, the only good thing was Aces & Eights invasion after that the Dixieland Era was meh. The Pros were: -Broken Era -Beat Down Clan -Hardcore knockouts -Awesome tag team matches -Manhattan Center Tour Cons: -Terrible advertisment -Network changes -TNA Originals leave -Corgan-Carter lawsuit

[@SMP2390]

+Brandon “BrandonGameShow” Lee. And again putting former WWE and MMA talent over original talent over.

[@sgtlegacy7]

I vote for the British Bulldogs and the bullying with Jacque Rouguea! The Dynamite kid would be nice!

[@10191927]

I can’t imagine paying for a body building competition on PPV at the time. I wonder how much money a WBF PPV was at the time, watching a bunch of guys flex about and do segments just seems really boring to me.

[@rickyrosay33977]

WBF: World's Bigmen Fetish

[@KevinIsFamous]

Man I love this series...been binge watching since I found it. It’s like True Hollywood Stories but with wrastlin’ lol

[@lb2.0.45]

I swear with all these failed business ventures you figured Vince would've learned his lesson by now.

[@Will-eh6xe]

also how the wwe is failing cause of the pg era

[@andrewmcgregor7117]

The Ken Patera McDonalds incident

[@kiprandom7208]

Hulk Hogan was responsible he did like 6 steroids. Davey Boy turned purple from grape steroids. Scott Steiner did truck steroids The ultimate warrior, his steroids did cocaines

What the hell are you talking about???

[@kiprandom7208]

Steroids

[@SupesMe]

Wow that was Magnanimous of the Weiders, And no Vengeful Vince would NOT of done the same thing

[@LuckyDT]

GARY STRYDOM! Talk about stepping out for a night out on the town! Whaaaaaaaaaaoooooooowwwwwwwwwww!

[@TayyabKhalil]

Do a video on the rise and fall of Lex Luger.

[@michaelrickard2225]

Tayyab Khalil Who?

[@TayyabKhalil]

Crispin Wah.

[@ii9714]

Michael Rickard 2 total package look it up

[@packerpf]

And now he's starting to fail the wwe with many things. His failure to recognize talent and not see who is OVER, his failure to get coherent and good story lines, his failure on the network and actually getting rid of some shows fans liked, and his failure to get his kids off tv because he hasn't realized they are one of the largest reasons for ratings drops.

[@ChrisWolff2013]

Mostly Stephanie. She has driven people away fooooor yeeeeears.

[@wwfla8691]

Dino Bravo for hall of fame.

[@YT-Trenton]

I remember as a kid when WWF shows promoted the WBF and I didn't know one person who had any interest in it.

[@BIGBamBam86]

Vince McMahon made diffrent youtube accounts to dislike this video lol

[@peterpan504]

Wrestlelamia, I'm a huge fan that love behind the Titantron, I'm a lifelong wrestling fan from New Orleans (home of WrestleMania 34) so I grew up a MidSouth/UWF fan, CAN YOU PLEASE DO A BEHIND THE TITANTRON ON THE RISEAND FALL OF MIDSOUTH/UWF AND BILL WATTS PLEASE

[@thechosen481]

WBF was a pathetic joke. The champions were picked before the show got started.

[@fatdaddyeddiejr]

This is one of the best channels on KZbin.

[@dkelban]

Really great detailed history. Very well researched

[@ammagnolia]

Eric B. Said Vince said to him when he hired him, "hey pal I'd like to think you would have hired me had you won" I think the IFBB changed his way of thinking

[@bryanelam7431]

I love the intro music for this series!!

[@saikrish7976]

This channel is so great pls make episodes about ultimate warrior about his contraversial remarks against everyone.

[@tonywilliams12]

How did Vince beat those charges that would be a great documentary

[@rickyrosay33977]

He's rich that's how

[@esp1272ify]

2000 WCW Bash at the Beach, January 4, 1999 - Mankind wins WWF Title & the "Finger Poke of Doom"

[@360whiplash]

Vince has always had a thing for guys with muscles.

[@asoncalledvoonch2210]

I was not a fan of the WBF... And I've had my share of criticisms for Vince McMahon.. But I also think many people will hate on ANYTHING Vince McMahon does. No matter what it is. Vince has made some mistakes no doubt, but he's also made a ton of successes. I don't think many people are fair to Vince and just want to see him fail I'm happy for him and for anyone who can become successful because it's not easy at all.

[@michaelrickard5343]

Love me my Wrestlelamia!

[@chrishollister80]

I vividly remember the WBF. It seemed so odd at the time and I didn't understand exactly what the WWF was doing at the time. Not to mention, I was a diehard NWA/WCW fan so it really didn't catch my full attention. Needless to say, usually whenever Vince goes outside of his lane he crashes. The WBF. The XFL. That goofy New York restaurant.

[@Slick5150]

Hey Wrestlelamia i got one, You guys should do a Behind the Titantron on the Fabulous moolah because there's so many stories her being an awful persom

[@mrkipling2201]

Stick to wrestling vince because everything else you’ve done has lost money. A lot of money

[@robertwilliamcurl1490]

Do an episode talking about what Sting was doing during the NWO storyline. He didn't wrestle for a long time and I've read different rumors over the years ranging from him using it as a time to have back and knee surgeries and being able to let them fully heal to him taking personal time off because of alcohol/drugs and that was when he got into church. I always thought that the NWO angle came at a time where he was banged up and thats one reason they decided to go with Hogan as the "3rd member". I'm sure it's not the only reason but imo it was a big factor.

[@lipglos1]

It would be interesting to see one of these on the fall of wcw

[@mettinkaytaz6106]

YEAH!!!! BEHIND THE TITANTRON FRIDAYS!!!!!!!!!! WOOO HOOO!!! Absolutemente love the Behind the Titantron series!

[@Jason_Maier]

Mr. Wrestlelamia . . . . is the urban legend true that buried in a landfill behind Titan Tower is a large stock of unsold IcoPro?

[@Wrestlelamia]

Yep it's right beneath a pile of unsold XFL merchandise.

[@Immorpher]

I kind of wonder if Ico Pro was kept around to deflect steroid accusations. Kind of like how Mark McGuire claimed creatine gave him his mass. It is pretty clear in modern times that it is steroids. Brock Lesnar was always an strange outlier for me. He had been in many testing and wellness programs. But that was fixed when UFC got serious about steroid testing and caught him. I was surprised that WWE hasn't caught him, but then I learned because of his part time status that he doesn't follow under the wellness program. Makes sense. Kind of a bummer for current WWE wrestlers who are on the wellness program then for part timers to come in juiced up and looking bigger.

[@chosento2988]

For real.. Mcguire claiming androstenedione helped him completely started the witch-hunt to ban it!

[@mfrost228]

I wonder if they will ever put these ppvs and the weekly show on the network. Not that anyone is clamoring for it, but would be interesting to see, I remember the weekly show was on after wrestling when I was a kid but never watched. Maybe wbf and xfl games in the network, why not.

[@mightydegu]

Yes, it was fixed... Not that it matters. Bodybuilding judging is entirely subjective and PEDs are essentially mandatory.

[@craigperry3779]

mightydegu exactly. Isn't there a category for "natural" body builders? Steroids are almost a given in any body building

[@RahubaatNeteru]

You would be crazy to think anyone can attain that much muscle development without steroids.

[@brianhurley2194]

Bret Hart said it best - Who wants to pay to see bodybuilding?

Bodybuilders....

[@coreygarland246]

So the WWF almost went out of business because of the WBF the more you know

[@DAZZYVANDAM]

This is when Vince began his love for Sweaty men!

[@patrickmcconnon1044]

DAZZYVANDAM RETRO GAMING he had it way before this.

[@JohnMatrix89]

@1:40 Don Draper LMAO!

[@spazmatix89]

Ur vids r the best bro keep up the good work

[@hermanbooger5431]

You really beeped out pist lmao 😂😂😁😄😂

[@scarface1138]

I'd like to see all four of the documentaries.

[@Sincer914]

What a way to start my Friday at work #Wrestlelamia

[@NotaPizzaGRL]

would be interesting to see a behind the titantron on the death of the NWA or the first attempts to unionize wrestling. Or outlaw promotions. Or something about Japanese, European, or Mexican wrestling.

[@u710274]

The need Vince has to tell competitor to suck it and then fail miserably

[@hermanbooger5431]

I swear man you should make a DVD compilation it's that great 👍👍👍👍👍

[@snappy452]

Why would anyone watch bodybuilding competitions and pay to see them at a premium rate on TV? Bizarre.

[@deepblue8143]

Why would anyone watch the Superbowl, bizarre right?!

[@WrathUponEden]

great series

[@johnwright449]

The last statement wrestlelamia made is 100% correct.

[@dfaircloth30]

Rise and fall of AWA and WCW. Also WCCW.

[@dariosandoval5140]

Don Draper? Give me a break! It's Dave Draper!

[@Eli_skips]

At that time, I wanted to watch wrestling only. I’m pretty sure adults thought this way too.

[@SupesMe]

This was amazing, I'm gonna see if I can Find Eddie Robinson around here and see if he's aware of these Episodes. So little has been done on the WBF

[@AlbanianMan]

ICOPRO was a crap product. I remember it getting really poor reviews in muscle magazines.

[@joselozada24]

I was looking forward to this, to what happen to Wbf! Questions answered!

[@PlzTouchMEHard]

Plz make more behind the titan tron

[@JulianPerez-zv6os]

This is one of those stories where I really want to hear the Weider's side of the story, because I have a really hard time squaring away their actions with their very, very ruthless reputation. I mean, has anyone interviewed the Weider's on this? I suspect the WBF poaching talent hurt the IFBB and the Mr. O more than they let on, and it was a relief. Also, notice that the WBF show was hosted by Cameo Kneuer. You might know her as 8 time Ms. Olympia Cory Everson's sister!

[@marcus813]

If not for the WBF, I don't know what Lex Luger would've done. Jim Herd's actions toward Ric Flair undermined Luger's WCW World Heavyweight Championship reign and Luger didn't wanna deal with any more "we want Flair" chants. Since Luger didn't work any matches in 1992 after dropping the title to Sting, there was nothing WCW could do about him returning to bodybuilding even if it was for a Vince McMahon-owned entity..

[@WatchBillywork]

Please more frequent episodes love this shitt

[@albino5995]

Don Draper 😂 any relation to Dave Draper 😂😂

[@ajh90210]

DO... THE DEATH OF ANDRE THE GIANT (THE LAST YEAR OF HIS LIFE)

[@AndyinMTL]

AWESOME PIECE THX A LOT

[@RealDaveTalk]

Vince need to stick what he knows best is wrestling. I bet the XFL will failed again

[@RacerC45]

Vinny Mac upon seeing Stryder: OH MY GOODNESS!

[@augustusclaudiusvenorius6292]

Don Draper, LOL.

[@rickdrent]

This is s great episode!

[@PacifistNihilist]

Most of the bodybuilders, especially Strydom, look like someone photoshopping their head onto another body.

[@thatpart]

GARY STRYDOM! WOWWWWWWWW!!

[@RocknRollisDead1]

After watching this I now think bodybuilding is the dumbest shit ever.

[@VERDICTInsanity]

Did this have to be a two part episode?

[@nerdlife1387]

My cousin tried icopro it gave him the shits lol

[@ogmatti2136]

Two great parts.

[@tacojohson8739]

I wonder where are all these guy now 🤨

[@TheSpritz0]

DON DRAPER?? That was MAD MEN... DAVE DRAPER was the Bodybuilder!!

[@chosento2988]

FACTS: this dude is an idiot for saying DON

[@steveballard3295]

Amazing

[@Djarra]

The Fall of 'World of Sport' wrestling would be good. How you got from technical wrestlers like Adrian Street, Finley and Regal to it all being about Big Daddy doing a belly splash.

[@folodaleedr7394]

Couldn't wait for this!!

[@Mr.WhatzitTooya]

How about an episode about the Brawl for All tournament?

[@wydtdbren]

Jim Cornette vs Vince Russo

[@rajreddy288]

love it buddy

[@Hilversumborn]

Is Vince Mcmahon secretly bisexual?

[@michaelmartinez8868]

Hilversumborn He probably is.

[@saikrish7976]

Hilversumborn no he is not he kissed many sexy woman.

[@Hilversumborn]

Bi means you like both men and women.

[@saikrish7976]

Hilversumborn but he never kissed any male

[@almightyone1181]

He just rather want see big muscular man and not scrawny people James Elworth on his show

[@ChrisWolff2013]

Vince's pathetic love for bodybuilding is really, really sad

[@hatednyc]

Awwwww ssshhheeeeeeeeeeeetttt!!!! Yeah!!! Excited for this one, son!

[@bb-gc2tx]

Agree with most of this but no way could a magazine lose 200 grand a month