The Weirdest Things in Magic | Part 2 | EDH | Strange Interactions | Commander | Magic the Gathering

[@jormgundtheballast7397]

Use liquimetal coating, turn bolas, Planeswalker into an artifact. Use that red enchantment that turns all artifacts into equipment. Equip Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker to og Nicol Bolas...

[@bradjones7491]

could you still use the planeswalker abilities if it was an equipment, can you still attack it if it is, What if it's equipped to a creature?

[@jacobschiller4486]

Bludgeon Brawl would give Nicol Bolas +7/+0, thereby making it a 14/7 flyer. Deadly!

[@Zologe]

And to just make it even more of a Vorthos nightmare, have Nicol Bolas attack another Nicol Bolas while wielding Nicol Bolas. I am a dragon, that kills other dragons, by using my fellow dragon friends as clubs

[@azathoththeprimalchaos2289]

@@Zologe and we're all identical twins with the same name

[@TheBosc]

you can do that with jace and equip it to gideon.

[@DarkX64]

"Alternative win conditions or loss conditions for the most part don't really make that much sense." Door to Nothingness: "Am I joke to you?"

[@BrazenSolar]

Hey it makes sense! It's the moon door but it leads to the blind eternities or something instead. It takes a lot of mana to open (and hold open) because the colourless pressure from the other side holds it shut.

[@AidanWR]

Triskaidekaphobia makes sense too because a player loses due to a fear of the number thirteen

[@ms.aelanwyr.ilaicos]

Honestly, that statement was pretty debatable. Mirrodin Besieged and Approach of the Second Sun are just canon instances of how particular villains won Battle of Wits is a psychic spirit bomb Ugin's original Hedron Alignment was powerful enough to trap all three Eldrazi Titans And so on

[@ferdithetank7535]

Revel in Riches also makes total sence. Get rich by looting your enemies and have enough wealth for the rest of your life.

[@AidanWR]

@@ferdithetank7535 I just wish it was more than 10 treasure tokens

[@Kroxti]

The Legendary Rule does bother me until they changed the story behind it. Now we are "drawing upon of our memories of the being" instead of actually summoning the being from a different plane. So it explains how we can have different versions of the same thing (Jace, Thallia, Nicol Bolas) as they are different memories. Also why you cant have multiple because your memories are associated with 1 version. So every non legendary creature we control is just a different one of those, so we might have memories of multiple Shivan Dragons which is why we can summon multiple of them. So that is why both players can control the same legendary creature, as we both have our memories of them. And it got rid of the planeswalkers being the best planeswalker removal that the old legendary rule caused. "I cast Mind Sculpter" "I cast Baby jace... he is summoned from your side of the battle to mine, has a quick wardrobe change, and now knows different spells. Hes a kirby."

[@fidly4]

And things like mirror gallery, helm of host, and spark double make sense because they're just memories of things that are able to create copies of other creatures, including the ones you've summoned from your memory.

[@Quroe_]

This is the best, most concise explanation I've ever seen. I like this reasoning.

[@khurgar8120]

Yeah has nothing to do with balance and retcon lol

[@CherubEros]

I always figured Jace came to help you, and if you summon another version, he simply likes you more and is willing to do more. Piss him off (no loyalty left on one of the cards) and he'll do less. No silly gimmick. More of the same planeswalker simply means to me the more they're willing to do.

[@frigginresulrum]

But then the lore was made weird again when Ugin took away Nicol Bolas' name so that he couldn't be summoned away from their plane...implying the old legend lore still applies. Woulda been interesting if the card game followed the lore and every version of Bolas was banned in all formats after War.

[@basdevries9716]

"Horses should be blocked by walls" Ever played Skyrim?

[@HealedCoyote997]

Use Karn to turn Skyship Weatherlight into a creature, tap it to pilot the Weatherlight.

[@DarkX64]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[@draxthemsklonst]

Wouldn't that just be a mech piloting a ship? I mean, Karn basically has the Transformers Cube ("Allspark") built into him.

[@kingfuzzy2]

@@draxthemsklonst read that as oilspark and was like yikes.

[@SoloWing88]

@@kingfuzzy2 New Phyrexia wants to know your location

[@ML7WL]

now it is a double creature

[@doodlehumper3529]

I think the idea behind the “win by having no cards in library” is the idea that you’ve acquired all the knowledge possible and you have nothing else left to learn.

[@O_RLY]

The library is supposed to represent all spells that you know, aka long term memory. It does not represent spells you do not know. Drawing cards is like remembering a spell you could cast and adding it to your short term memory. Once your library is empty, so is your mind. You've basically become a vegetable. That is why you lose.

[@cassandracastro2759]

Flavorwise, the deck represents your grimoires that you keep in you library, losing the game for deckout supposedly represents having used up all your spellbooks, so you don't have the toools to keep fighting. I believe this doesn't makes much sense either, but that's what it was supposed to represent. So wining by deckout might mean, for those cards, having so good memory, that reliving all the spell the character had acces too might grant them the ability to use all af them at any time, thus winning is a shorthand for them becoming omnipotent. That's what I believe, of course I can't prove it. But is interesting how all win condition different to "beating" your opponent are more like situations in which the parties involved agree that is better to surrender instead of keep figthing a losing battle. As opposed of actually defeating your opponent.

[@ML7WL]

To me is "what if?"...you passed or erased all your memories for all possibilities tha could fill those options and in the end you glimpsed the beyond, something entirely new that's is beyond your grasp (like a card you don't have) or something that does not even have form yet. And this knowledge gives you total advantage in the skirmish.

[@papanurgle8393]

@@O_RLY An empty mind can represent transcendent enlightenment. Then again, all Labman effects can fuck right off.

[@FlashKillerX]

You’ve achieved literal chim

[@jordanppepper2280]

Don't forget that Sun Quan, Lord of Wu can teach Emrakul to ride a horse. Or even a horse to ride another horse.

[@cassandracastro2759]

Well, I guess a horse riding another horse is a more common thing.

[@Matheus_Osh]

leviathan riding horses or even vehicles riding horses

[@--CHARLIE--]

A horse riding a horse riding a horse etc. Its just a massive stack of horses.

[@zulfyby]

We have a joke that Progenitus is even protected from Tutor´s because well he has protection from everything

[@kingfuzzy2]

That's hilariously beautiful

[@stevehammer4139]

question: wouldn't protection from everything include colors? protection from a color would save pro from wrath (but not a sac effect)

[@forisrex]

@@stevehammer4139 protection means - you cant target it, enchant it, equip it, damage it, or block it. wrath's etc do none of these things. protection does not give it indestructibility so it can still be destroyed. there are ways around some of these though, in weird corner case scenarios but i cant remember anything specific off hand

[@stevehammer4139]

@@forisrex so would a card with protection from black not save that card from effects of black cards?

[@kingfuzzy2]

@@forisrexnon targeted Enchanting from the graveyard / exile is one way to ko Progenitus

[@MonsterTeegs]

For the self milling I always thought of it as going so insane you reach nirvana. Kind of like if you could withstand the knowledge that lovecraftian gods give you would become all knowing and powerful. The lab man is literally researching a way to make insanity useful. Idk about Jace though.

[@auroralee]

Jace wins by milling cause now he has ALL THE KNOWLEDGE and that was his goal the whole time honestly. Laboratory Maniac just went absolutely insane and reached enlightenment... I'm down for either.

[@wolverineminer]

I think of Jace as having some sort of contingency in place in case Bolas wipes his mind or something. "Oh you took all my spells out of my brain, YOU ACTIVATED MY TRAP CARD!"

[@draxthemsklonst]

Jace is erasing your mind/thoughts/memories. In the stories, he often does it to himself, and to Vraska once. I'm probably missing a few. TBH, I think Jace actually, literally, truly is insane.

[@MonsterTeegs]

@@wolverineminer I like this explanation the best. Like he put all these spells on a stack in his brain and the very last one is like a Mirrodin Besieged copied x amount of times

[@danielslack9114]

Jace helped beat Nicol Bolas by erasing the mind of a friendly planeswalker, Vraska, to surprise him. He similarly helps win by erasing the mind of a friendly planeswalker, you, to surprise your enemy.

[@piralos1329]

One of my favourite more recent weird interactions is cards like Hushbringer stopping etbs from cards such as the titans. Kroxis comes back, and would make everyone discard a card, but Hushbringer shushes him. Or something like woodfall primus comes out, and hushbringer just puts a finger to it's lips, and so it doesn't destroy something. Or, because hushbringer turns off death triggers as well, Worldspire worm being stopped from making more worms because it was told to be quiet. In fairness, Librarians can be quite scary, so that could definitely explain it.

[@mtgcalix8977]

Yeah but hushbringer is weak because have no protection

[@Aaarrrgh89]

I have a deck which contains a Jar of Eyeballs. And it get more eyes in it when my Faceless Butcher dies. Where did those eyes come from? The creature which died didn't have any!

[@Kroxti]

also a fun flavor fail Baneslayer angel has protection from Demons and Dragons The only Demon Dragon in the game is Malfegor, which can destroy Baneslayer angel.

[@dapperghastmeowregard]

Tell it to Halo Hunter. "Oh sweet, a Demon that kills Angels, that's metal as fuck, what kind of problematic Angels can I get rid of with this? Baneslayer? PRO DEMONS Akroma? PRO BLACK Iona? CAN'T CAST BLACK SPELLS Avacyn? INDESTRUCTIBLE Chameleon Colossus? PRO BLACK AGAIN Sigarda? HEXPROOF HTarmogoyf? NOT AN ANGEL

[@Kroxti]

Dapperghast Meowregard true. But I would still not like to see it across the table when I’m playing my morophon angel deck.... wait I control unsettled mariner. Nvm.

[@zyrese]

I think it’s a flavor win in a way. Bane slayer has experience fighting against demons and dragons, and warding magic of some kind to protect it. But what if.. you combine those two together to create some demon-dragon monstrosity? Of course this angel would have a problem with a new amalgamation of the two things it seeks to destroy.

[@ivanniezgocki5236]

The one that always gets me is that you can sacrifice a blocker, and the creature is still blocked. It makes sense that they would do no damage because they’re fighting the blocking creature, but what’s happening after you sacrifice it? Are they looking around, wondering where it went? I picture my dinosaur looking confused muttering, “Where did he go? He was right there a second ago!”. Maybe turning to the other creatures and and saying “You saw that insect there, right? I’m not crazy?”

[@fenixiliusstrife1253]

The creature went to attack and the creature simply evaporates in front of them. So they attack into the air where said creature used to be. Pretty simple. And in a game like MTG with you know a thing called magic, things probably disintegrate into nothingness all the time and one would just get used to it.

[@datkid605]

I actually thought tht shadow was a good evasion concept and wish they expanded a bit more on it.

[@draxthemsklonst]

Ditto. They said it was like flying, but less intuitive, so they dropped it.

[@garrettmartin4750]

I LOVE shadow.

[@garrettmartin4750]

My play group doesn't... it's great with Infect:)

[@khurgar8120]

Yeh I liked shadow as well. I feel like the complaints about shadow in this video is bad becuase shadow is not based on actually being a shadow. But oh well.

[@lukenzur1667]

Dauthi Embrace is great to make even opponents unable to block or used politically like; "hey you wanna send your 5 goblins to smack that planeswalker but there's that wall blocking you? hold a sec, "tap 2 black" ok, that wall has shadow, can't block any of your gobos" :) planeswalker - dead :)

[@darkmatter32x]

It's a Skyrim horse, that is why it can scale through walls.

[@nocapsrage]

My favorite thing was that "Walk the Plank" couldn't target vehicles (which in ixalan was mostly ships) so I would always imagine pushing one ship off of another ship and killing it somehow

[@Thelon3000]

Well, I certainly didn't expect to feel sorry for Spawnsire of Ulamog today...

[@darkesttundras4256]

Spawnsire of Ulamog: I will destroy you all with my minions! His minions*on vacation ignoring all summons*

[@Drewbe821]

I'm just envisioning a colossal steampunk barge growing a pair of legs and lightly nudging someone😂

[@andrewrobles8814]

I play spawnsire and just dump eldrazi on the table. It’s casual commander so it normally gets a laugh and serves as a alt win con like helix pinnacle

[@wurmcoilengine161]

I carry a few hundred Eldrazi Drone cards along with the deck containing Spawnsire, in case I ever manage to trigger it. I got close once.

[@andrewrobles8814]

Eldrazi Cat I use Kruphix as a sort of doomsday clock. If he stays around long enough to store the mana for spawnsire’s ability then the fun begins

[@wurmcoilengine161]

@@andrewrobles8814 A more reasonable choice than my decks. Right now, Spawnsire is kicking around in an incomplete Kozilek deck, which really has no chance of activating it.

[@weirdmusicmixmaster]

Our balanced version basically is just have a side board spawnshire drops 15 new friends but you have to have em with the deck, same with something like masterminds acquisition you get 15 to pick from better make em count

[@ciernselar6549]

I had Spawnsire's effect go off at my table once. The guy just pulled out his trade binder and started putting Eldrazi from it into play. It was really scary to see this army of Eldrazi Titans and other big threats with Annihilator enter play all at once.

[@Beefman.0]

I always thought of Jace wielder of mysteries’ win condition being a “I gained all knowledge,” or “There is nothing more to know” Lab man on the other hand.... wins by reaching insanity...?

[@sages10]

One of my favorite odd interactions is that Leyline that makes everything legendary (singularity I think?). It hoses token decks but when you think about it it is such an odd idea. Legendary creatures are characters that have a part in the story/are individuals so does that mean that when you play this all the tokens are somehow suddenly given a personality/history/story but for some reason are all given the same one and then all of them other than one must be sacrificed? Or did the tokens have individuality originally and now suddenly the leyline is making them all become one person? Really doesn't make much sense when you think about it

[@kingfuzzy2]

Well it happened to Elspeth and glissa so ...

[@TheLuckySpades]

Maybe it limits you to a memory of a single one, as in affecting the (in universe) summoner's memory, not the summoned creatures

[@Krikenemp18]

sages10 Maybe it’s a multiverse thing. Given infinite timelines, every creature is going to have one where it was a legendary hero, so by linking them all together, the memory of every creature becomes tinged with the memory of its legendary alternate reality version, thus stopping any duplicates from being summoned.

[@donatomezzenga7430]

Karn turning the Dreadnought into a 1/1 reminds me of when the Ice King tries to make his Fiona and Cake fantasy stories real but instead just ends up animating the book itself, which is a sad and stupid creature.

[@D23-q9m]

2:42 Ah yes but you see Mitch, the horse is actually dodging the giant here!

[@richardadams429]

the horse has horsemanship the rider does not..what youre actually seeing is the horse trying to kill its rider so it can run away..it knows its got skills and was like "y'know what?..i hate this guy..im gonna take this fool up to the mountains and get that giant to knock him off me, i could be in Meletis by sundown eating grass by the nag paddock with my penis out"....

[@Chuubii]

Shadow creatures are not literal shadows,but Dominarian races that became trapped in the interstitial void between planes Dominaria and Rath.

[@HTYM]

My favorite weird MTG thing: Human Soldier tokens and Soldier tokens which are human... but are they really? I guess. They're drawn as humans but they don't identify as human? But Human Soldiers do because it's right... there... in their name. So, they're both human soldiers but one of them isn't... technically and... oh, my brain is itchy. 🤦‍♂️

[@lukenzur1667]

that always bothered me, the soldier token as a color and a class but no race until now recently... maybe someone, probably a kid pointed that out like, "hey, is this a human?" cuz it sure doesn't look like a goblin or elf

[@fenixiliusstrife1253]

@@lukenzur1667 A soldier token may be represented as a human in artwork, but it could be any race. Printed Tokens cards are just a easy representation of what the token is. It is mostly just a balancing tactic though. If all soldier generators were also human generators Human decks would be hella busted.

[@lukenzur1667]

@@fenixiliusstrife1253 what would have been cool, if they originally have changling soldier tokens as being the any race since there are goblin, kithkin, and even ally soldier tokens, although ally is not a race... but anyway, yeah, changlings - but then that may break tribal to a new level :)

[@QrazyQuarian]

Janeway regarding time travel: "It's less of a headache when you don't think about it."

[@lucarr1041]

I have never seen Hundred-Handed one, and I love that it specifically can only block 100 creatures. It might take 101 squirrels, but they can still take your last life point

[@ExtremeAzimuth]

Love this kind of content. My main problem with game mechanics turning into flavor is the following: What does it mean gamewise to mill yourself and then reanimating what you mill? Because milling implies losing ideas/ becoming insane/ having your mind torn apart. Reanimating implies something dieing on the battlefield, leaving a corpse behind, that you can then use to resummon the creature from the grave. So I guess you are losing your idea/memory of something, and that magically materialises as rotten flesh near you , on the battlefield. And when you call it back from the grave, you can't even recall what it was , since it was ripped from your mind, but you managed to resurrect a perfectly functional being. If someone has any idea on how to picture this, please help me. I can't get my head around it.

[@Marpal20]

My interpretation would be that you try and get back the creature spell from your memory although the spell would be incomplete or damaged. Resulting in the creature being undead, being less powerful, using your life to fix itself (reanimate). Other effects that bring it back you your hand would instead give you the chance to fully remember the spell and cast it correctly

[@joelhaggis5054]

Equipment that raises power can help creatures crew vehicles. Which means a squirrel can drive a car, but only if it's carrying a sword.

[@fushioon]

I love this series! Flavour-related content is my favourite.

[@bradsworth13]

Hyrophant I believe you meant flavourite lol

[@kingfuzzy2]

Oh look portmanteaus everywhere

[@kellischoefer7762]

I know right

[@kellischoefer7762]

It's awesome

[@meyer8779]

Some might even consider you to be ‘vorthos,’ whatever the derivation of that term may be....

[@Relisysification]

The win for Jace weilder of mysteries flavour wise is that he has all of the knowledge. He has weilded every mystery of the deck. As for Lab Man, he has been driven insane by knowledge, the library is the source of this maddening knowledge, with it gone he can rest from his madness Thassa's oracle too, she has foreseen everything because her devotion to Thassa was so great, ergo has ascended

[@boredcryptek5513]

Keep up the good work Mitch! Love these. The last one made me start building a vehicle deck.

[@dier440]

Shadow makes a bit more sense when you realise it refers to a very specific alternative world cause by the rathi overlay and not just like a generic shadow world.

[@TheTaurenchief]

No One: Dakkon Blackblade: I break the colour pie and say as much in my flavour text.

[@jascheesee]

You could go on with the last point for a while. This horse, for example, is able to kill a DRAGON in a 1:1 fight... 😅

[@oliveragag8576]

That horse could kill stuff likr •Sarkhan, thr masterless after turning into a dragon •Young Nicol Bolas •Serra angel •Urza master artificer And any ny planeswalker that sarkhan turned into a dragon, but lucky for them vraska can just get an assassin with deathtouch and she can finish the job.

[@RaginKavu]

Parhelion II being more powerful on "auto pilot" can make sense lore-wise, in a convoluted way, tho. The first (as the second) Parhelion was the flying fortress of the Boros' angels. In the Ravnica novels, it is stated that it takes the strength of an angel to move the steering wheel of the Parhelion. So, we can theorise that Karn isn't as strong as an angel, nor is anyone else that crews it. But in "auto pilot", the angels inside of it are the ones piloting now, so, it's more effective.

[@zulda1396]

From the lore I remember, creatures with shadow aren't just shadows, they're in a weird alternate plane thing that's on top of Dominaria. Someone with more knowledge on this can say it better.

[@CrimsonHiroX07]

I said Progenitis last video, now its in this one XD I'll expand to on "Protection from everything" . In addition to progenitis, there is another creature with that text now, admitidly smaller and less imposing, in Hexdrinker. Then we have Teferi's Protection. Player who cast it can't change life totals, their permanents phase out, and they have protection from everything. They loose everything the moment someone drop's a Stasis or forces the to skip their uptap step. Oh, and they can still be milled via global effects. So the player has protection from everything, but their library isn't.

[@kingfuzzy2]

I've seen a teferi's protection stasis deck that skipped their turn with chono atog and it was a wincon. The commander was the bant fog one Angus Mackenzie.

[@JMONTY7654]

@@ebbandfloatzel I saw a deck somewhere. That played cards like praetors grasp, sadistic sacrament, anything that lets you search and exile before playing lethal vapors and skipping 100 turns. Then drop a protection and go watch t.v.

[@NerdByAnyOtherName]

I am going to make this snake wear boots and wield a sword that somehow stops all your creatures from blocking it and also this giant hammer and attack. Oh and the snake is venomous so you are now instantly dead.

[@Ulubai]

Also this land is now an equipment so this snake is also wielding a mountain

[@okgrorkultiv5356]

Well, you forgot I could turn this rounded ring (sol ring) into a creature, I'm defending your godlike snake with a silver ring, and I get no harm. Joke's on you

[@ToadManJon11]

I think the lore behind shadow is that volrath was phasing the plain of wrath onto doninaria but some of the creatures didn't phase in correctly, so they're stuck in this limbo so they can only interact with eachother.

[@goochtheotaku]

Great writing sir, I'm always impressed with the level of production you put out. Keep it goin!

[@Robert-vk7je]

"Indestructible Aura" is my favourite. xD

[@magicalpro]

Viscera Seer can sacrifice itself, looking into it's own viscera to interpret the future. Does its entrails spell something like alphabet soup?

[@bainebarray]

Another fantastic video. Thanks Mitch! Keep it up

[@jonathanrobinson8926]

I know it generally references sideboards, but since "outside the game" rulings technically state that is only the case in official settings, these can be SO fun in casual. Especially Spawnsire.

[@TheIhplodur]

Here are my 50 different Eldrazi. Deal with it.

[@SCORPIX258]

In case of Jace and Laboratory Maniac I think you can explain this in this way: They can't more learn, so they know everything Ps. Sorry for any mistakes

[@thefrozengoat]

These videos are great - they make me laugh, but also remind me of the fun history behind the design of Magic

[@Error-4O4]

Here’s my take for the “Opposite Day”category. Both Jace and Lab Maniac want knowledge, which is represented by drawing cards. They win when they have all the knowledge possible to acquire since their main goal is to be the most intelligent they can be.

[@dawsonlewis9139]

This literally makes me lol. The way it’s presented too makes it 10x more funny. Great content

[@Blue5wirl]

Sol Ring flavour text: "Lost to time is the artificer's art of trapping light from a distant star in a ring of purest gold." My playgroups' table: Like, fifty Sol Rings.

[@vanory1997]

Actually the Wishes are the most fun to think about when it comes to casual EDH. Because of how the rulings work, in an unsanctioned event, you can grab cards from your personal collection, assuming your playgroup allows such house rules. So imagine two commanders duking it out then one of them remembers something cool they saw during their travels and just wishes for it, and it just pops into existence. Or my personal headcanon, the commander says "hey, can we stop fighting for two minutes? need to check something" and just teleports to his personal library to quickly find the spell he wishes for.

[@dontbelievethehype11]

jace weilder of mysteries looks for answers (draws) once hes has found an anwser to all his mysteries (no cards left in library) you win, not gonna lie makes perfect sense to me

[@warrenkahn1690]

Heard at a casual event "Sure you can block it... with your shadow, flying, horsemanship creatures" while looking at Stronghold Overseer with Riding Red hare cast on it.

[@garskowskiPL]

I love the combo of Parhelion and Karn, the Great Creator. It's the win-con of my Brawl stax deck, it's really fun.

[@MinecraftManiacs1to3]

Me during this video: "Well.... wait yeah no that's right."

[@cerulienceruleen6463]

Actually, in the tempest block lore, creature with shadow are trapped between the plane where the stuff happens (I don't remember the name in english) and where the eldrazi come from (before it was named the Blind Eternities or smthg). It's a place called the Field of Souls (yes like the tempest card) and it has actually nothing to do with shadows (cast by light) or shades (the creature type). Sorry for the actual names, I have a lot of french cards ;)

[@draxthemsklonst]

Wish I was fluent in French right now. I love these kinds of discussions. If you play D&D, this analogy will make since: Shadow creatures are in the "Plane of Shadow," which is distinctly different than the "Far Realm" (the Blind Eternities). The space between Rath and Dominaria was in the same spatiotemporal location, but in different planes/dimensions and merging into one. "The Rathi overlay."

[@cerulienceruleen6463]

@@draxthemsklonst Yes, Rath (Radj in Fr) being a flowstone copy of Dominaria made by Yawgmoth for the overlay, the space between the planes is different than usual. Hence the presence of Shadow creatures in Tempest and Time Spiral blocks. No merit speaking french, it's just were I'm from (I didn't play D&D for decades, I can't catch your analogy :/ )

[@emyron1843]

I think the whole "Draw with no cards, win instead" mechanic is supposed to embody something. Lab Man is a mad man intent upon creating a machine (look at the art) using every piece of knowledge he has. You draw no more cards, his knowledge has been spent, and his machine complete, so he flips the switch, and wins the game. With Jace, he's super wise so he can't draw himself into oblivion, so instead, he wins the game... I think, that was the best I could come up with there.

[@SuperSilverSerpent]

I actually have a playmat of Indestructibility Aura signed by Mark Poole himself. He explained the art by saying “Back in the old days they didn’t really give us any artistic direction, they just said ‘draw indestructibility aura’ and I took it as a bird guy who wasn’t phased by getting hit by both fire and ice.”

[@Hereticalchristian]

Shapeshifters mimicking legendary creatures are still subject to the legendary rule. Similarly affects that create token creatures that are copies of legendary creatures like blade of selves.

[@r.dommizsed2377]

my favorite thing and probably one of a bunch of us here is imagine an eldrazi slipping to hes dead

[@SCKentrol]

In a casual format, "outside the game" means **Every** binder I brought with me to the game shop ;)

[@AidanWR]

You can still crew the vehicles that Karn turns into creatures though, which is the funny part. Although it will keep it's power and toughness from Karn

[@ИванГусев-у9ц]

About wishes cards. In Commander you actually have a sideboard which is consist of 10 cards and can be used after Commander's are declared, however, in the casual settings "outside of the game" it is basically your entire collection so you could tutor any card you want

[@captainkarnage9874]

Lab Man and Lab Man Jace make sense in that you win because you've learned all that you can possibly learn

[@MonsterTeegs]

But the knowledge is all discarded, otherwise you could say that's what red does when they rummage or loot. I see it as purposely going insane and reaching nirvana

[@ZidaneWildangel]

I like to think that Lab Maniac goes mental upon 0 cards in library and does something so wild that everyone else loses/perishes in the experiment. Jace on the other hand has no thoughts blocking his mind and comes to the perfect, instant conclusion to beat everyone else.

[@theblackcoatedman6794]

Watch the anime called Kingdom. All your questions with horsemanship will be answered.

[@orsettomorbido]

The island one is amazing. There is a thread, buriend deep on the internet, that talks about that. It's REALLY hilarious XD

[@dannybeane2069]

I always find it hilarious when you use vehicles to crew other vehicles. A single soldier can crew a flying air ship. Then the air ship can pilet a train, which can then pilet a barge, which can then pilet a massive stomping mech, which can then pilet a huge flying dreadnaught. Just, mind blowing.

[@VictorianoOchoa]

The thing about "shadow" creatures is that shadow does not refer to shadows per se, but rather the Dauthi world that exists beyond ours. A fun piece of lore behind this Dauthi world is, as written on a flavor text, that you will see it if you close your eyes so hard that you start to see shapes.

[@TheRealSpellstar]

my favorite weird flavor card is Daily Regiment W Enchantment - Aura Enchant Creature 1W: Put a +1/+1 counter on a enchanted creature so with only two days of training, a soldier could kill a bear and survive, and after two weeks, they could kill any Eldrazi

[@negatix501st6]

I really wanna see a balthor the defiled deck tech for either 25 or 50 buck. It would be really awesome

[@papanurgle8393]

The Eldrazi Titans not having reach will never cease to baffle me.

[@fidly4]

I don't agree with the criticism of shadow. I believe the creatures with shadow were all from other worlds that were all being phased onto Dominaria, and as a result they didn't really exist on the plane in which the game was taking place. Just because you have "shadow" in your name doesn't mean you can fight intangible creatures from other realities.

[@moyabers9351]

Rampaging baloths spawns a 4/4 beast whenever you plant a tree, splash water, step In mud, shine light on something, and start a fire. The shining light one is the craziest as the plane would be covered in beast as soon as the sun hits the entire plane.

[@jarredbartley7642]

Arnt cards in exile considered outside of the game?

[@draxthemsklonst]

Nope. It's a now considered a zone in the game. Used to be that way, though. Exile wasn't even a keyword in early MtG, it said "remove [...] from the game."

[@mattman8436]

This segment is great! Magic is so weird but I love it!

[@ehallam08]

Try to wrap your head around portal 3 kingdoms in general. Low print run? Check, not available in America? Check, should we make them legal in edh and spike the prices? Check.

[@stilljustsoph664]

Yeah! It shouldn't cost a hundred bucks to ride the dilu horse

[@ehallam08]

@@stilljustsoph664 hahaha 👌

[@Denny1026]

Dude that one about the 100 hand giant had me in tears!!! 😂

[@tooltechtv6130]

The last horse rant was amazingly funny!

[@Esper_Compleat]

I love Atla Palani, who pulls creatures when eggs die. You can have an egg hatch into a egg, into another egg, into a changeling, into an angel.

[@AidanWR]

My friends and I often make fun of the card arts on lands, specifically islands because they are the biggest offenders, because they do not depict the land type that they represent. Like, how does silver spires in water constitute an island, or a pool of water in, what appears to be, a citadel?

[@Nergal123]

Shadow is more like the ability to stealth/sneak. Death’s shadow as shown in the art is quite visible and doesn’t seem like the sneaking type.

[@forisrex]

no its not. shadow creatures are very literally in between planes; caught in the void by yawgmoth. has nothing to do with abilities. per the mtg wiki on gamepedia "Rath was Yawgmoth’s ever-expanding plane of flowstone. When it merged with parts of Dominaria as part of Yawgmoth’s interplanar invasion tactics during the Tempest Block storyline, some Dominarian races became trapped in the interstitial void between the two planes. These unfortunate Soltari, Dauthi and Thalakos are known as “shadow creatures.” "

[@Nergal123]

forisrex Oh ok. Still mitch would be wrong since death’s shadow is quite obviously not a dauthi, soltari, or thalakos creature.

[@forisrex]

@@Nergal123 yep, exactly

[@nintandocaprisun]

I always thought Laboratory Maniac kinda made sense. Normally, if you’ve been milled out, the flavor is that if you’re completely out of ideas. Your brain is empty, so you can’t go on. You slump to the ground, your enemy surrounds your defeated, babbling husk. But when you’re an insane mad scientist, having a completely empty brain means there is nothing in the way of your madness; anything is possible, so you win. Your magic explodes out of you like lightning, unfettered by simple ideas like “having a plan” or “knowing what to do next,” and all in your way are vanquished.

[@iqcool]

I have a Jhoira, Weatherlite Captain EDH deck thats is basically a Historic spell storm deck and my favourite interaction is to take Lu Xun, Scholar General and give him Colossus Hammer. Its a guy on a horse who has a huge hammer, yet cannot be stopped and can basically win games for me. Also, having Neheb, the Eternal on the battlefield at the same time is a super fun thing to do :)

[@YatzeeWillWearAGreenHat]

To be fair, if you find a horse big enough to carry a giant worm, few can actually block it. Except a normal dude on a normal horse.

[@frizzykitty8655]

Lab maniac has actually had every single thought which is why self mill works

[@gerdfast3466]

weirdest horsemanship interaction: Rolling Earthquake!! yeah well, those horses are to quick an run away from the earthquake, but it can still damage all these birds and dragons and what not which are up in the air?? XD

[@willowdelosrios4326]

Actually, the whole thing with multiple Nicol Bolas cards makes sense in lore; in the novel Test of Metal, Bolas is seemingly beaten by Tezzeret, and left with a rather nasty curse placed upon him. But at the very end, after Tezzeret has left him for dead, it is revealed that the Bolas he defeated was a temporal duplicate summoned by the OG Bolas, and that his apparent defeat was all according to plan. Earlier in the book, Bolas zerg rushes Tezzeret with a bunch of Leliana Vess duplicates grabbed from alternate timelines.

[@WoWPrecision]

My favorite interaction in a local playgroup is Venser "touching himself." His later incarnation the planeswalker can blink his original legendary incarnation. It's a very weird thing to occur.

[@elmachomenoch]

Marchesa, The Black Rose deck seems funny to me, since it seems that her strategy is to sway creatures into attacking their owners, then killing those creatures, then zombifying them and resume their everlasting betrayal.

[@thomasfplm]

If I'm not mistaken, if there isn't a sideboard, wish cards can get cards from your collection. Literally from among any cards you own. In competitive formats they limited to the sideboard so it is possible to know what it is possible to get with it.

[@scharazz]

The Token thing at the end killed me. Haven't laughed so hard in a long time

[@Neo_Way]

If you think about the Ravnica basic island, it basically implies that Hallowed Fountain seen from above stops being a plains... for some reason.

[@ConsoleCleric]

One of my favorite interactions is with Lin Sivvi, Defiant Hero and a sac outlet. With careful stacking of triggers and abilities, it's possible to sacrifice Lin Sivvi and have her go from the graveyard to library and back into the battlefield again.

[@mateuszcegowski499]

According to Spawnsire of Ulamog ruling, if the game you play is not sanctioned (like EDH) you can cast cards from your collection, not sideboard. So coming with a backpack of Pathrazers of Ulamog is an option.

[@KeuraChan]

5:02 I think, the reason for that is: You have all the knolodge at your disposal, or has used all your knolodge, in that way, You won for having all this knolodge in some way

[@AidanWR]

To go even further beyond with the Nicol Bolas, using liquimetal coating on a planeswalker Nicol Bolas, with Bludgeon Brawl out, Nicol Bolas can swing himself at other people

[@cassandracastro2759]

Some of my favourites: - A plant is 0/1, but a fungus is 1/1 (even when both are functionaly the same). - You can crew a vehicle as soon as it touches the battlefield, but if it doesn't have haste it can't attack. I guess the insects just started the engines. - Equipment artifacts remain "in the ground" when the creature carrying it dies. That makes sense, they killed the creature, it's things just fall there. But if I kill a soldier token, he doesn't drop any sword, or if a kill an archer he doesn't drop arrows, etc. they just die and dissapear with all their things.

[@lloydlineske2642]

I think you missed the best part of mirror gallery. Literally what you had in the screen is terrific. The planes walker has all the abilities of other planeswalkers. But with both of them out they get an unlimited number of abilities. Since they copy the abilities of the other one. Which keeps it's but then gets them again.

[@orgazmo686971]

I love your description for Laboratory Maniac, Jace, and Thassa's Oracle and would love that to be presented to the rules committee for consideration.