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The Commander's Quarters

The Commander's Quarters

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@Lovuschka
@Lovuschka 4 жыл бұрын
"Island". That card gives you one blue mana without any downside, and it establishes terror in the hearts of your opponents just by playing it. Better get that one banned fast.
@fyr3st0rm65
@fyr3st0rm65 4 жыл бұрын
I might actually still be playing MTG if we could actually get that monster of a card banned. I quit Arena once every couple of weeks when I have to just sit there while somebody says 'no' until they draw their single win con.
@mtgcalix8977
@mtgcalix8977 4 жыл бұрын
Come on you can't take that from my... Otherwise I can't think others I have counters While I dorm
@JoeyjojoShabadoo7
@JoeyjojoShabadoo7 4 жыл бұрын
I still follow the old rule attack the first person to play an island...seriously 👍😁
@mtgcalix8977
@mtgcalix8977 4 жыл бұрын
@@JoeyjojoShabadoo7 actually that is pure pain... I play mono blue counter steal pain 😂 I mean gadwick as commander out and brachborn meucheler and tons of counters 😂 there are people that quit of they fail to play there commander for 7 times 😂
@Tyrael17X
@Tyrael17X 4 жыл бұрын
Why not ban the whole color blue
@shadedcorner
@shadedcorner 4 жыл бұрын
"So next up is wayfarer's Bau- Just kidding, it's cyclonic rift" That was perfect and i love it
@87channels
@87channels 4 жыл бұрын
Spoiler alert
@quinnenstrom4808
@quinnenstrom4808 4 жыл бұрын
Laughed harder than I laugh at most snl bits
@sarahgimas
@sarahgimas 4 жыл бұрын
That was my favorite part
@coffietofutofu4114
@coffietofutofu4114 4 жыл бұрын
👌 lol
@jamesmayle3787
@jamesmayle3787 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ is lord. Please read at least three books of the Bible. The first book of each testament and one you chose yourself. As you do practice forgiveness. It is important. Please.
@submortimer
@submortimer 4 жыл бұрын
Mitch: *goes to the list* "First up is Wayfarer's Bauble..."
@user-fj9cr7mu7o
@user-fj9cr7mu7o 4 жыл бұрын
I don't get it why is bauble even there? can't see why is that card too powerful...
@user-fj9cr7mu7o
@user-fj9cr7mu7o 4 жыл бұрын
I mean the honorable mention at the end? is it actually very good? I can imagine it is colorless wild growth so it is pretty good...
@Mrallen132
@Mrallen132 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-fj9cr7mu7o because it can come back out with little effort. Lots of artifact recursion and it can go into any deck.
@jacklegends2799
@jacklegends2799 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-fj9cr7mu7o Also, Mitch has a history with the card(He's actually one of the reasons, probably the only reason, why it got above the 1 dollar range). He always added the card in his older vids cus they budget(Might also be a joke).
@thetwinkietroll5293
@thetwinkietroll5293 4 жыл бұрын
Take out smothering tithe for Craterhoof Behemoth
@LivingDeathGuy
@LivingDeathGuy 4 жыл бұрын
The scariest combo is “island, sol ring pass”
@stevenluoma1268
@stevenluoma1268 4 жыл бұрын
Tropical Island, mana crypt, sol ring, dimir signet, rustic study. Pass. Spooky! In cEdh there are even hands that can just win on turn 0!
@kollinmurphy7357
@kollinmurphy7357 4 жыл бұрын
Swamp, dark ritual, necropotence, pay 40 life, die, pass turn
@moxopal675
@moxopal675 4 жыл бұрын
Swamp, one with nothing, pass
@stevenluoma1268
@stevenluoma1268 4 жыл бұрын
@@moxopal675 that's nightmare fuel. You're a genius
@mikeforrester4953
@mikeforrester4953 4 жыл бұрын
Island, sol ring, arcane signet, birds of paradise pass. Turn two forest, kinnan bonder prodigy, basalt monolith, chromatic orrery GG lmao
@lessthanevil
@lessthanevil 4 жыл бұрын
Red is sulking in the corner.
@DreamMorpheus42
@DreamMorpheus42 4 жыл бұрын
Curse of opulence deserves an honorable mention I think.
@ghostofkrows
@ghostofkrows 4 жыл бұрын
Wheel of Fortune is like Power 11.
@billyshakespeare488
@billyshakespeare488 4 жыл бұрын
@@DreamMorpheus42 curse of opulence is nowhere near as powerful as any of the cards on the actual list
@tatsuhirosatou5513
@tatsuhirosatou5513 4 жыл бұрын
@@DreamMorpheus42 no, no it doesn't.
@Macattack1023
@Macattack1023 4 жыл бұрын
Wheel of fortune should be on the list imo, it’s amazing and a must play for almost any red deck. It’s hard to argue against not playing it in any deck with red. I think if a card is a must play/auto include it should be on the list or honorable mention.
@haidynwendlandt2479
@haidynwendlandt2479 4 жыл бұрын
RIP Red for not having any cards in the CP9
@Rukalin
@Rukalin 4 жыл бұрын
I guess Spandam isn't a fan of red.
@antonio2708
@antonio2708 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe Underworld Breach can be include...
@ashra8281
@ashra8281 4 жыл бұрын
It's just the worst colour in edh
@dracog0322
@dracog0322 4 жыл бұрын
@@Rukalin I was expecting someone to say something like that Merry me
@mikelong2756
@mikelong2756 4 жыл бұрын
I like old school so wheel of fortune makes my list
@shawnmyer2747
@shawnmyer2747 4 жыл бұрын
"Sol RIng is not quite cheap enough to include in my budget decks." You're the best Mitch!
@allergymeds2288
@allergymeds2288 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making my dream of owning a complete set of P9 a reality.
@zotmaster
@zotmaster 4 жыл бұрын
What about the Power 9 of Commander's Quarters? 1. Wayfarer's Bauble 2. Wayfarer's Bauble 3. Terramorphic Expanse 4. Wayfarer's Bauble 5. Evolving Wilds 6. The Vivid Lands 7. Star Compass 8. Prismatic Lens 9. Wayfarer's Bauble
@TheCommandersQuarters
@TheCommandersQuarters 4 жыл бұрын
Accurate haha
@doleod6340
@doleod6340 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with an honorable mention to Auriok Salvagers to rebuy Wayfarer's Bauble.
@FableErrejeDMR
@FableErrejeDMR 4 жыл бұрын
you forgot firemind vessel he is the only one promote this card and its an awesome card
@Artakha9000
@Artakha9000 4 жыл бұрын
Did I mention Wayfarer’s Bauble?
@JoeyjojoShabadoo7
@JoeyjojoShabadoo7 4 жыл бұрын
But what about Wayfarers Bauble?
@r.xc.p.0551
@r.xc.p.0551 4 жыл бұрын
The Wayfarer Bauble joke was excellent !!!
@nigel534
@nigel534 4 жыл бұрын
Was that a close quarters teaser there at the end?
@UberNoober147
@UberNoober147 4 жыл бұрын
it looks extremely close to quest for the janklord's layout
@Onattamato
@Onattamato 4 жыл бұрын
@@BoardGameHype GET HYYYYYYYYYPE!
@ehallam08
@ehallam08 4 жыл бұрын
It looks fucking great and we cannot wait mitch.
@Lovuschka
@Lovuschka 4 жыл бұрын
Next video: What is the Toughness 9 of Commander
@connorcowan7606
@connorcowan7606 4 жыл бұрын
We must create a petition to ban Islands! I'll be the first to sign!
@jonasdietrich8109
@jonasdietrich8109 3 жыл бұрын
@@connorcowan7606 *plays counterspell*
@connorcowan7606
@connorcowan7606 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonasdietrich8109 WUT!!
@TherapyForNarhwals
@TherapyForNarhwals 4 жыл бұрын
“Was that a little salty?” Oh Mitch I got salty just from hearing Cyclonic Rifts name, you don’t even know lol. Super excited for the gameplay!
@groundswelllegitcoffeeandb3810
@groundswelllegitcoffeeandb3810 4 жыл бұрын
dockside extortionist is definitely a contender for this list! My playgroup loves and hates that card!
@Recon-cv1fe
@Recon-cv1fe 4 жыл бұрын
Red may have a place in the 9 with that one
@DiscardatRandom
@DiscardatRandom Жыл бұрын
Definitely better than teferi’s protection
@Juggalozen
@Juggalozen 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for mentioning Smothering Tithe. I rail to my playgroup constantly that Smothering Tithe is busted. Paying 2 to deny the effect is much too much. "But mono-white needs cards like this!" Yeah, agreed...but it is NEVER just played in mono-white.
@fluffy7358
@fluffy7358 4 жыл бұрын
Nope, usually see this in white/blue! The most salt-inducing color set ever conceived. Smothering tithe and rustic study together, kill me now.
@dragullongblackfang8073
@dragullongblackfang8073 4 жыл бұрын
@@fluffy7358 dont forgot remora ah and land tax is also a good one to collectiv groan your oppoent
@LadyBernkastel92
@LadyBernkastel92 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, mono-white DOES need cards like that, but it seems like everyone who runs it is in Azorius or Bant. Any time I see a mono white comander deck it's usually someone who just... REALLY likes rebels or soldiers, or equipment, and they aren't trying to build for competitive as much as for fun.
@jianhaogao7608
@jianhaogao7608 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, I'm from the future and Smothering Tithe is the second popular white card and 30$ now
@jamesmayle3787
@jamesmayle3787 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ is lord. Please read at least three books of the Bible. The first book of each testament and one you chose yourself. As you do practice forgiveness. It is important. Please.
@corrosivecabal
@corrosivecabal 4 жыл бұрын
Old man story incoming... I memba cracking packs of prophecy and chucking Rhystic Studies into a box of cards, thinking no one would EVER use them.
@corrosivecabal
@corrosivecabal 4 жыл бұрын
@@mfmageiwatch true, but when I got out of magic the first time, I traded off at least a dozen of these things.
@KeithChapman-hr5kx
@KeithChapman-hr5kx 4 жыл бұрын
Same and I got tons of em still
@ELFanatic
@ELFanatic 4 жыл бұрын
Classic magic. "This card's crap!" 5 sets later "Why did I ever sell that caaaard????"
@corrosivecabal
@corrosivecabal 4 жыл бұрын
@@ELFanatic don't even get me started on Black Market! Yeah it's a good bit cheaper, but I'm a black mage, killing/sacing while accelerating mana is like half of what I want to be doing in a game.
@jimmykeffer7401
@jimmykeffer7401 4 жыл бұрын
*shows cyc rift background* Ah yes, starting of strong I see- “So the first card is Sol Ring” ... ...still not as good as Bauble
@project_swift
@project_swift 4 жыл бұрын
The power 9: The 8 most powerful cards in Magic's History, and Time Twister...*
@thomasmccoy6673
@thomasmccoy6673 4 жыл бұрын
I think timetwister should be replaced with time vault in the power 9 but that's just me and the fact that time vault literally fits the same criteria as the other power 9 but is way more busted then timetwister
@Small_Panda
@Small_Panda 4 жыл бұрын
Time twister is actually insanely strong their is a reason a lot of people run wheel of fate, drawing seven is a huge effect. This also has upside in shuffling all your used resources like extra turn cards back in. Time walk was super strong because of time twister and recall.
@BlackSwanSeeker
@BlackSwanSeeker 4 жыл бұрын
@@thomasmccoy6673 The power 9 were originally auto-includes for any magic deck. Timetwister has been debatable for some time because it isn't. Time Vault doesn't even come close.
@TheStephenation
@TheStephenation 4 жыл бұрын
Back when "Power 9" was coined, Time Vault was subject to a power-level erratum that made the card useless. WotC would spend the next couple of decades making rules adjustments to ensure that Time Vault remained totally unusable for any purpose other than skipping a turn and then being able to later take an extra turn. By the time the card was restored to its former glory, the "Power 9" had been that way for over 20 years.
@pro711200
@pro711200 4 жыл бұрын
@@Small_Panda tbh wheel of fortune is better than time twister. Cans in graveyard is better than cards in deck due to cards like underworld breach.
@irishmudslide1544
@irishmudslide1544 4 жыл бұрын
I highly recommend that instead of Gaea's Cradle, you buy Ancient Rites of Itlomac. Granted it takes a little extra to transform it but when you do transform it it does the same thing
@veryblocky
@veryblocky 2 жыл бұрын
Storm the vault is similar, but transforms into Tolarian academy. A great card in Izzet artifact decks
@CRIMS0N_KING
@CRIMS0N_KING 4 жыл бұрын
I think whenever there's a collective groan around the table when a card is played it's worthy of Power 9 status... Every card on this list fits that.
@hamnuggets
@hamnuggets 4 жыл бұрын
The power 9(by your definition) -Island -Island -Island -Island -Island -Island -Island -Island -Island
@AlexDestroyerOfEarth
@AlexDestroyerOfEarth 4 жыл бұрын
Surprised expropriate didn't make the cut
@eac-ox2ly
@eac-ox2ly 4 жыл бұрын
@@AlexDestroyerOfEarth This. Expropriate is fucking insane.
@GoreMyst09
@GoreMyst09 4 жыл бұрын
Who groans at a Sol Ring?
@feritperliare2890
@feritperliare2890 4 жыл бұрын
@@GoreMyst09 most experienced/knowledgeable players it basically makes you at least a turn ahead
@linaskurtinaitis
@linaskurtinaitis 4 жыл бұрын
I see edh gameplay incoming...😀
@gahbunk
@gahbunk 4 жыл бұрын
A well played interrupt indeed
@Macaroni139
@Macaroni139 4 жыл бұрын
With the budget decks
@Neo_Way
@Neo_Way 4 жыл бұрын
@@gahbunk but interrupts are instants now
@jeffreynoguez1296
@jeffreynoguez1296 4 жыл бұрын
YESSSSSSSSSSS IM so EXCITED !!!!!!!!!!!!
@DreamMorpheus42
@DreamMorpheus42 4 жыл бұрын
I'd put the top in there too. It's just so good for filtering your cards, it's a brainstorm you can cast over and over again for 1 colorless. *Maybe* Expropriate or Time Stretch, just because they so frequently lead to just winning the game. Labmam may also deserve a mention.
@Jonathan-qk5ed
@Jonathan-qk5ed 4 жыл бұрын
Cards that cost 7+ mana and don't literally win the game on spot or require you to already have an established board state outside of fringe archetypes are pretty bad tbh... hence the reason those extra turn spells aren't on the list.
@papaSwarls
@papaSwarls 4 жыл бұрын
I remember someone did the Elsha the Infinite Sensei top combo while I had Smothering Tithe + Annointed Precession so I had about 160 treasures and as soon as he cast jace and + to draw and win i had enough manna to dig through my deck find Beast within and kill his jace before the + resolved. He was sad.
@simondezeeuw2042
@simondezeeuw2042 4 жыл бұрын
Planeswalkers can use an ability after they're played if they're not countered. So what you did was technically illegal.
@stilljustsoph664
@stilljustsoph664 4 жыл бұрын
@@simondezeeuw2042 Nah, you can respond to a planeswalker ability with an instant. The ability would still resolve, but Jace wouldn't be on the battlefield anymore, so he wouldn't win, he would draw his last card and lose from that.
@ryanoswald8013
@ryanoswald8013 4 жыл бұрын
@@simondezeeuw2042 Once the Jace ability was on the stack, before it resolved, he dug and killed Jace. This removed the static ability before the active ability went off, and now the opponent draws from an empty library without the text saying he wins.
@ebisuezo
@ebisuezo 4 жыл бұрын
@@simondezeeuw2042 Jace would have had to be on the field after the plus effect resolved in order for the win condition to work. So that situation was legal.
@hwfjj1989
@hwfjj1989 4 жыл бұрын
What was illegal about it? You can respond to the + ability going on the stack. He beast withends the Jace and the + ability instead of winning the game causes a lose because Jace is no longer on the field.
@mmlgamer
@mmlgamer 4 жыл бұрын
I think Vampiric Tutor is closer to Demonic Tutor's power level than you think. While it's true that it's a top-deck tutor, the upside is that it's instant speed, which means that it not only allows you to start your turn with fresh mana, thus allowing you to play the card two turns earlier than a Demonic Tutor'd card, but it also maintains the element of surprise up until you play it, unlike with sorcery speed tutors. Personally, it's the second card that I'd put in every black deck. Also, it works great in Golos ;)
@TheStephenation
@TheStephenation 4 жыл бұрын
This video is totally fine as a list of some of the top cards for commander decks. The point of confusion I see with a lot of "Power 9" comparisons is that while lists like this are fun and completely subjective, the original Power 9 weren't really subjective, but were grouped together for practical reasons, at least as early as 1995. The "Revised base set" was much more widely available than other sets. It reprinted most of the cards from earlier editions of the core set, but some were substituted with cards from either Arabian Nights or Antiquities. Most tournament-worthy cards were readily available in the Revised set, and some of the ones that were not were uncommons anyway, so still pretty accessible at the time. Aside from the Power 9, there were 11 other rares that hadn't seen higher print runs. These non-power rares were Blaze of Glory, Chaos Orb, Cyclopean Tomb, Forcefield, Gauntlet of Might, Illusionary Mask, Lich, Natural Selection, Raging River, Time Vault, and Word of Command. For one reason or another, these weren't considered tournament-worthy cards. A couple of them were somewhat in demand (Forcefield was a very popular casual card and Gauntlet of Might was probably playable at the time, although that might not have been realized much). Notably, Time Vault was banned and then later received an erratum to make it virtually unusable (it wouldn't be restored to its former glory until 2008). So it was really just Ancestral Recall, Black Lotus, Mox Emerald/Jet/Pearl/Ruby/Sapphire, Time Walk, and Timetwister that were prohibitively expensive or, in some places, impossible to find. The demand for those nine cards was super-high, and nearly everything else existed in much higher supply or wasn't popularly sought anyway. Now, there were certain cards from early expansion sets that were also quite strong. However, a quirk of the tournament structure at this time was that expansion sets could be considered unplayable! So the most powerful rares from sets like Arabian Nights and Antiquities were not considered in the same category as rares from the "base set" and were not as highly sought-after. Also, none of them turned out to be as widely useful across multiple decks as the "Power 9" rares anyway. And this was a matter of some contention. Shortly after tournament rules stopped allowing judges to block expansion sets from being legal in their tournaments, the term "Tenth Power" started floating around for the card Library of Alexandria. A rare card with a very low print run, used in most tournament decks at the time, it was the only card that became quite as expensive and unobtainable in the mid-90's as the "Power 9" were. But "Power 9" got just enough of a head start in the zeitgeist to stick around over the more obscure "Power 10." Decades later, there are lots of rare and super-expensive Magic cards. But this term from the early days has managed to stick around anyway.
@jimmyb2655
@jimmyb2655 3 жыл бұрын
I love how Growing RItes of Itlimoc gets overlooked. It basically flips into gaea's cradle and costs 1/10 the price.
@dylanhenderson5226
@dylanhenderson5226 2 жыл бұрын
More like 1:100 of the price but your point still stands
@Skyblade12
@Skyblade12 2 жыл бұрын
And you can run both!
@xirtakeht
@xirtakeht 2 жыл бұрын
How is it overlooked? It's a great card but obviously worse that the original and obviously worse than any cards on this list.
@jermdude
@jermdude 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with the smothering tithe call. Super good card!!
@addambarcelos
@addambarcelos 4 жыл бұрын
My Power 9? Something like this 1- Sol ring 2- demonic tutor 3- birthing pod 4- Kiki jiki 5- rhystic study 6- smothering tithe 7- walking ballista 8- mana vault 9- gaea's cradle
@lisliaer7999
@lisliaer7999 4 жыл бұрын
Funny story: this past weekend with my normal pod group I was testing out my new muldrotha deck (still needs work ) and our resident artifact tribal guy ends up with rhystic study and Alhammarret's archive on the field turn 6. At this point he was way ahead of everyone else so I dropped a notion thief and attached him with lightning greaves to slow him down. The next player drops a time reversal. Its a 6 man pod. Also no one payed for rhystic study's tax. By the time it got back to me I had 49 cards in hand. Notion thief didn't make it to the end of my turn lol
@PupusaBoy
@PupusaBoy 4 жыл бұрын
I sent this my playgroup and we got into a HEATED discussion. Awesome stuff, Mitch!
@dyciefisk2535
@dyciefisk2535 4 жыл бұрын
I can say that I see Smothering Tithe *alot* more than I see Rhystic Study, so I can vouch for it's spot here
@cyricnosferat227
@cyricnosferat227 4 жыл бұрын
it's also newish and more than half the price
@SOLtoo
@SOLtoo 4 жыл бұрын
Rhystic Study is too damn expensive. it needs a reprint
@jhook6865
@jhook6865 4 жыл бұрын
Love the tease, can't wait for your gameplay episodes!
@evinn
@evinn 4 жыл бұрын
Smothering tithe is insane. Wins me a lot of games when I ready devils play
@AndrewLawton16
@AndrewLawton16 4 жыл бұрын
It's a wincon in my Gisella deck. Anyone who doesn't think it's busted has never gotten wheeled and then burned for lethal
@jessiem437
@jessiem437 4 жыл бұрын
Smothering tithe isn’t even good..
@cameronbyers7335
@cameronbyers7335 4 жыл бұрын
@@jessiem437 Im not here to argue, but in my Kykar deck I have smothering tithe and multiple wheel effects that I then burn all my opponents at once lol
@danielhader4026
@danielhader4026 4 жыл бұрын
I just picked one up and I love having it
@Enigmaessence
@Enigmaessence 4 жыл бұрын
That fake-out with putting the Cyc Rift art in the background for #1
@RafaelDAlmeida
@RafaelDAlmeida 4 жыл бұрын
I'd also add on honorable mentions Sylvan Library and Heroic Intervention. They are almost auto include on any green deck. The amount of CA and selection that SL generates is just absurd and the "get out of the jail free" effect of Heroic is only second to Teferi's Protection, IMHO.
@Rojolbv
@Rojolbv 4 жыл бұрын
agree for sylvan library, less for heroic intervention since unlike the tef's spell it targets one permanent (if i'm correct).
@nartin9
@nartin9 4 жыл бұрын
@@Rojolbv so what it's an uncommon? That card is a rare and it's not a trash rare
@ygaudreault
@ygaudreault 4 жыл бұрын
@@Rojolbv nah, all your perms get hexproof + indestructible. Crazy good, for 2 cmc.
@Rojolbv
@Rojolbv 4 жыл бұрын
@@nartin9 never talked about it being unco :p
@Rojolbv
@Rojolbv 4 жыл бұрын
@@ygaudreault Indeed that change a lot of things haha
@azuredragonhart5571
@azuredragonhart5571 4 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely right to have Smothering Tithe on this list. If a deck can play white, it should almost always run it. While not AS good as Rhystic Study, it gives a similar level of pain to your opponents: give me advantage for something you HAVE to do at least once a turn, either by giving me a resource, or tying up your mana. Gods help you if effects cause players to draw multiple times. Seriously underrated card imo.
@mrnixon2287
@mrnixon2287 4 жыл бұрын
Survival of the Fittest deserves an honorable mention. best creature tutor for green
@mrhouse6960
@mrhouse6960 4 жыл бұрын
Mr Nixon it’s okay you have to have a creature in hand I have one and see no reason to run it with better options cause I build decks that tutor once usually win.
@jonathandwilliams2885
@jonathandwilliams2885 4 жыл бұрын
@@mrhouse6960 Ooze kill setup? Necrotic ooze, Phyrexian devourer, and Triskelion instant win setup. You just pitch a creature to SotF 3 times on turn 3 (with a turn 2 SotF) and then cast Necrotic ooze (last one to tutor out, pitching the other 2) to instant win. If he lands, it's game, non-interactive (without split second). This was busted in duel commander back before ooze got banned from that format.
@mrhouse6960
@mrhouse6960 4 жыл бұрын
Seems really bad
@jonathandwilliams2885
@jonathandwilliams2885 4 жыл бұрын
@@mrhouse6960 In Commander? Maybe Legacy and Vintage, sure, but it's a sweet option for golgari commander.
@Novendar
@Novendar 4 жыл бұрын
Good video with your explanation of your choices. My personal "Commander Power 9" would be: - Cyclonic Rift - Teferi's Protection - Mox Opal - Chrome Mox - Mox Diamond - Mana Crypt - Demonic Tutor - Reanimate - Wheel of Fortune This was honestly harder than I thought. So here are some honorable mentions: - Force of Will - Gaea's Cradle - Lake of the Dead - Crop Rotation - Natural Order
@2inchpunisher49
@2inchpunisher49 4 жыл бұрын
Smothering tithe absolutely deserves to be there. That card is absolutely broken. It's a STAPLE for white. I've lost to that card far too many times
@jeremyschneider3188
@jeremyschneider3188 4 жыл бұрын
Well said jake lol
@kdastronaut171
@kdastronaut171 4 жыл бұрын
I love it in my aristocrates
@jessiem437
@jessiem437 4 жыл бұрын
It’s not even good... it’s not even close to a staple and hardly any include in any of my mono white decks... doesn’t deserve a spot here at all.
@MekanikKommandoh88
@MekanikKommandoh88 4 жыл бұрын
Being a cEDH player, thinking of a Power 9 is tough. Here’s what I think: 1. Mana Crypt 2. Sol Ring 3. Mystic Remora 4. Chrome Mox 5. Mox Diamond 6. Mental Misstep 7. Force of Will 8. Demonic Tutor 9. Ad Nasuem Vampiric and Demonic Tutor can probably be swapped. Mystic Remora usually causes more issues for players in cEDH than Rhystic Study because it can disrupt both the early and late game even if it’s only around for a turn or two. Free counterpells are king and those two are arguably the best (Pact of Negation is also up there but can backfire if you lose permanents and can’t pay the upkeep trigger). And the ramp artifacts kind of speak for themselves. Ad Naus is the scariest card in the format, in my opinion. Butt cheeks clench when that resolves.
@IstudLumen
@IstudLumen 4 жыл бұрын
Thassa's Oracle is also up There
@MekanikKommandoh88
@MekanikKommandoh88 4 жыл бұрын
Lluis Almor I don’t agree with Oracle as a “Power 9” card. It is a part of a premier combo, sure, but each of the cards I listed are mainstays in either the vast majority of cEDH decks regardless of color or in the color of the card itself. Oracle is mostly limited as a primary win condition for UB or a secondary for 4-5 color decks. You’re not likely to see Oracle in a Mono-Blue or Simic/Izzet deck for example; you are likely to see Remora and Ad Naus in most decks that use their color. It needs Consultation or Pact to do anything. The card itself in a vacuum is useless.
@mariarandazzo9739
@mariarandazzo9739 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing video! Although one note, if I personally was to make a power list for commander, rather having it be set to 9, I would just choose how many that feel appropriate.
@Stoned-Gamers
@Stoned-Gamers 2 жыл бұрын
Teferi’s protection imprinted on elite arcanist, with a grand abolisher, and a haste enabler for the arcanist, equals the “cant touch this” combo Grand abolisher prevents your opponents from doing things on your turn so you can use the elite arcanist to cast teferi’s protection on your end step to phase out during your opponents turns, basically, you cant do anything on my turn and you cant do anything TO me on your turns
@krenkomobboss3984
@krenkomobboss3984 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video dude! Love seeing your content each day!
@blightsteel101
@blightsteel101 4 жыл бұрын
Not sure if anyone would be interested, but here's my crack at a cEDH power nine list. I'm sure I missed a couple, but I'm pretty happy with this list. 1. Mana Crypt 2. Mox Diamond 3. Sol Ring 4. Ad Nauseam 5. Food Chain 6. Gaea's Cradle 7. Mystic Remora 8. Fire Covenant 9. Carpet of Flowers
@roguebanshee
@roguebanshee 4 жыл бұрын
I still remember my local community during the early Ice Age days dismissing Necropotence as bad because you skipped the draw step and had to pay life for cards. As far as I can recall, that sentiment lasted until the second or so game where Necropotence was actually played.
@benjackson4438
@benjackson4438 4 жыл бұрын
One card that I believe to be VERY underrated is Possibility Storm. It's an Enchantment for 3RR that basically swaps the spell currently being cast for the next one of that type from your deck. Sure, it affects you too, but I loved my friend's reaction when he had to send back his Craterhoof Behemoth. It also protects itself from casted destruction effects by not allowing them to resolve. Yes, Aura Shards can take it out, but even Erase can't. Combo it with on cast triggers like Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain and "Cheerio!"
@Zendrig
@Zendrig 4 жыл бұрын
I can‘t argue with your picks. Very good list, imo.
@Edenshex_official
@Edenshex_official 4 жыл бұрын
Island, counterspell, dismiss, stifle, swan song, counterflux, force of will, Insidious will, Cryptic command
@bluesight_
@bluesight_ 3 жыл бұрын
mana drain > counterspell
@MerryTheJerryKun
@MerryTheJerryKun 4 жыл бұрын
Aetherflux Reservoir would be on my list...that CONSTANTLY holds games hostage.
@Recon-cv1fe
@Recon-cv1fe 4 жыл бұрын
Better get rid of that one quick or else. Lol Also I'd like to add standstill to that list. That one really makes things fun
@feasttree
@feasttree 4 жыл бұрын
A buddy in my playgroup has one in every deck he has so he's always the immediate target once damage starts.
@MerryTheJerryKun
@MerryTheJerryKun 4 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen Standstill in my play group...maybe I should change that. >:3
@MerryTheJerryKun
@MerryTheJerryKun 4 жыл бұрын
@@feasttree Easy way to start a game of Arch Enemy...
@feasttree
@feasttree 4 жыл бұрын
@@MerryTheJerryKun it used to be me when i play my atraxa deck with hardened scales, winding constrictor and other thicc cards lol
@pykedj
@pykedj 4 жыл бұрын
100% agree on Smothering Tithe! Only been out for a year & it seems rare to see a deck running white without it.
@tqbrowne
@tqbrowne 4 жыл бұрын
Creative topic! Thanks for making these
@TheGaryxis
@TheGaryxis 3 жыл бұрын
Smothering Tithe is now over $30 a year latter. So I believe it deserves to be on this list. After watching your videos for on and off I don't know how long, I finally decided to subscribe. Keep up the good work thanks for the videos.
@bigmookie27
@bigmookie27 4 жыл бұрын
I might have considered Sensei's Divining Top for this list, as it is almost a must include (budget allowed) for any commander deck, regardless of color, at least as an honorable mention.
@simonisphording
@simonisphording 4 жыл бұрын
Hot take: top isn't that great in decks that aren't that reactive
@davidbeauchemin1840
@davidbeauchemin1840 4 жыл бұрын
@@simonisphording IDK, infinite combo tool, draw fixing, useful for storm count
@balthazar579
@balthazar579 4 жыл бұрын
Reallistically I don't think sensei's is entirely that great. If you're digging for an answer, looking at the top 3 and picking one is better than just not having it, but it's not really that much card advantage over your opponents, just slightly better card selection
@silenceyoufear7127
@silenceyoufear7127 4 жыл бұрын
I think maybe in cedh, but I've never really seen that many people use it in edh
@TaskMaster5
@TaskMaster5 4 жыл бұрын
I used to love top. Especially in my artifact decks where I'd run crystal ball along side it and voltaic key. You can do some crazy fun info fuckery with those cards in play and also get a draw and redraw top instantly so it doesn't dead draw on your turn
@deltadrifterd16
@deltadrifterd16 4 жыл бұрын
Nice list and concept. What’s bout a list of power 9 cards for less than 5 a piece in EDH?
@jonathonfoster3942
@jonathonfoster3942 4 жыл бұрын
Through a cEDH lens your power 9 should all be in the conversation for the cEDH top 9 except teferi’s protection. Good stuff.
@dif4797
@dif4797 3 жыл бұрын
Even cyclonic rift? Don’t know much about Cedh, but I think smth like Ad Nauseam is better
@jonathonfoster3942
@jonathonfoster3942 3 жыл бұрын
@@dif4797 good point
@henryjones8636
@henryjones8636 4 жыл бұрын
I ALMOST 100% agree with this take. I would say replace Smothering Tithe with Craterhoof Behemoth
@alfascorpi
@alfascorpi 4 жыл бұрын
Or Survival of the Fittest
@Nolsie
@Nolsie 4 жыл бұрын
My attempt at a Power 9 of cedh: Time Twister Vampiric tutor Mana crypt Force of will Mana drain Food chain Flash Lion's eye diamond Sensei's divining top edit: swapped vampiric tutor for imperial seal for obvious reasons.
@Raaayyyyyyyyyy
@Raaayyyyyyyyyy 4 жыл бұрын
I'd swap senseis with demonic consultation at least
@Nolsie
@Nolsie 4 жыл бұрын
@@Raaayyyyyyyyyy yeah, I thought of that but then why wouldn't I put Thassa's Oracle/Maniac?? I also struggled not adding a few commanders, namely Thrasios/kess, but I like that the real power 9 doesn't contain any creatures. Definitely much harder to narrow commander down to 9 better than all cards..
@5ManaAndADream
@5ManaAndADream 4 жыл бұрын
?????? why is imperial seal in here it is, LITERALLY a worse vamp tutor...
@gnarly814
@gnarly814 4 жыл бұрын
Vampiric tutor is just a better imperial seal
@quinnhait3475
@quinnhait3475 4 жыл бұрын
Vamp tutor is strictly better than imperial seal?
@adbeshonar
@adbeshonar 4 жыл бұрын
You should do a budget EDH power 9
@hauntingimmortal2012
@hauntingimmortal2012 4 жыл бұрын
Ancient Tomb and Gilded Drake would be in my power 9.
@Recon-cv1fe
@Recon-cv1fe 4 жыл бұрын
Bribery? That one is evil
@personsomeone2760
@personsomeone2760 Жыл бұрын
Smothering tithe is the power. Either ramps you by 3 if your oppenets want to do their turn or ramps you a lot when they need to refill their hand and look for answers
@timkaercher2459
@timkaercher2459 4 жыл бұрын
Commander power 9 imo: Mana crypt Sol ring Mana drain Force of will Wheel of fortune Lion's eye diamond Yawgmoth's will Demonic tutor Cyclonic rift
@RagingPoo
@RagingPoo 4 жыл бұрын
I think the idea of the list is that each card should go in any deck of those colors. LED is too specific so it doesn't fit the bill. Just my opinion, and I like the rest of your list.
@edh_alters7116
@edh_alters7116 4 жыл бұрын
@@RagingPoo I agree, LED goes hand in hand with wheels so it's too dependent to be a consideration imo.
@harrisonroberts6450
@harrisonroberts6450 4 жыл бұрын
Mitch I love you, that Wayfarer's Bauble joke was amazing
@NeoGamma
@NeoGamma 4 жыл бұрын
I'm so excited for gameplay content!
@RickMattison314
@RickMattison314 2 жыл бұрын
I'd personally say that Wayfarer's Bauble and Expedition Map could be interchangable, but that's just me. One can get a basic land (downside) into play tapped (upside), the other can get any land (upside) into your hand (downside).
@Duffer74
@Duffer74 4 жыл бұрын
#8 wayfarer's baub- jk it's cyclonic Rift lol love it
@photosinensis
@photosinensis 4 жыл бұрын
I'd argue that in cEDH, neither Flash nor Hulk make it. The list would be (before yours): 1. Sol Ring (because it's the obvious choice) 2. Mana Crypt 3. Mana Vault 4. Mox Diamond 5. Rhystic Study 6. Mystic Remora 7. Demonic Tutor 8. Vampiric Tutor 9. Timetwister (because if we're talking about the Power Nine of Commander, it makes sense that the only member of the *actual* Power Nine legal in the format shows up here). I do agree with you on Cradle. It's great. I've put it in my Bear deck, where the best thing it can do is shit out 3 bears in a turn. It was still bonkers.
@diggerdog9205
@diggerdog9205 4 жыл бұрын
We've had one power 9 list yes. But what about second power 9 list?
@robwormuth7838
@robwormuth7838 4 жыл бұрын
Shane Busse and what of elevensies?
@skylartenhaaf9793
@skylartenhaaf9793 4 жыл бұрын
Turn zero leyline of anticipation, then in the first player’s upkeep flash out enough to cast smothering tithe. Preferable when the player goes last in turn order.... The horror of that night has never been forgotten
@Thorinox
@Thorinox 4 жыл бұрын
Demonic Tutor is a VERY OP card, but I am very happy they FINALLY reprinted Grim Tutor, and with luck, I managed to pull 2 alternate art foiled ones out of 5 boxes. With the price of the original being at $200 on average, (but now dropping because of a reprint) I was never able to buy one. Thankfully I got lucky and pulled out two alternate art foils. :D
@eamonbell6378
@eamonbell6378 4 жыл бұрын
The thing about smothering tithe is that it's a great counter for rhystic study. It turns any draw engine to ramp on your end. It's a great card, in my opinion.
@aeris2704
@aeris2704 4 жыл бұрын
Turn 1: island, sol ring Turn 2: Plains, rhystic study Turn 3: land, smothering tide Profit
@Ibetooawesome
@Ibetooawesome 4 жыл бұрын
The hype with that hint.
@johnfutch8724
@johnfutch8724 4 жыл бұрын
So I definitely like your list and no I don't play casual EDH. So my ideas are a little different but not entirely. I think my list (in no particular order) would be: 1. Carpet of Flowers 2. Mystic Remora 3. Thassa's Oracle (if it doesn't get banned soon) 4. Cyclonic Rift 5. Thrasios 6. Teferi's Protection 7. Dockside Extortionist 8. Mana Crypt 9. Ad Nauseum
@alexschiff5986
@alexschiff5986 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like Survival of the Fittest is pretty strong, and it goes in any graveyard deck with green
@kcb73mgb1
@kcb73mgb1 2 жыл бұрын
my defense of the heart gets people to scoop. then again I did wipe the board with it on turn 3 once so they have the right to be scared of it.
@sagejackson6886
@sagejackson6886 3 жыл бұрын
All of these are solid picks. Definitely some other ones you could argue for. Perhaps the biggest ones I could think of is skull clamp. Skull clamp I think easily fits in the power 9. There are others too, though perhaps less arguable unless this was more CEDH focused. Protean hulk, thrasios, thassas oracle, mystic remora, and notion thief come to mind. I'm sure there are others as well.
@theblackcoatedman6794
@theblackcoatedman6794 4 жыл бұрын
It's mostly mana, I'm not surprised.
@MehrGills
@MehrGills 4 жыл бұрын
Just like original p9, lots of mana, and some card advantage
@malign3158
@malign3158 4 жыл бұрын
Hm. It seems to be that efficient cards that fix Magic’s land system are some of the most powerful cards in the game🤷‍♂️
@FatesxofxthexDead
@FatesxofxthexDead 4 жыл бұрын
Mana is what lets you play anything, you control the mana, you technically control the game
@tlebnahte1147
@tlebnahte1147 3 жыл бұрын
I for the most part agree with this list. Other cards I would consider are Craterhoof, omniscience, force of will, mana drain, phrexian arena, etc. but those are all a bit more niche then these so I can see why they weren’t included
@chicotivo307
@chicotivo307 4 жыл бұрын
I’m like this for the wayfare bobble joke
@LopaRB
@LopaRB 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed with most but I think commander deserves more than 9 power cards haha. Mana vault, Expropriate, Land Tax, Vorinclex, Elesh Nor, Sylvan Library, and the list goes on! I think that a number 2 list would be very welcome!
@kevintang4896
@kevintang4896 4 жыл бұрын
Some day. Wayfarers bauble will be up there
@project_swift
@project_swift 4 жыл бұрын
1. Sol Ring 2. Mana Crypt 3. Mox Diamond 4. Chrome Mox 5. Gia's Cradle 6. Demonic Tutor 7. Sylvan Library 8. Cyclonic Rift 9. Ad Nauseum We're not too far apart (y)
@puffin-onehandedgamer1164
@puffin-onehandedgamer1164 4 жыл бұрын
mana vault and mana crypt, gaea's gradle
@gabeanderson9509
@gabeanderson9509 4 жыл бұрын
I liked the normal full intro/ outro. I just liked knowing more of what everyone was playing before the game started, and I enjoy the banter of these play groups enough that more talking isnt an issue
@sykorixgraveborn7142
@sykorixgraveborn7142 4 жыл бұрын
I remember the time when i was talking about how crazy the sol ring is Someone says "its just an artifact that taps for 2, that's not that crazy" And im just like "you have no idea" 😂😂 Mana crypt is crazy, although i dont like the 3 damage part of it, but it's worth it
@Recon-cv1fe
@Recon-cv1fe 4 жыл бұрын
Sol Ring is banned in legacy and restricted in vintage for a reason lol. It can get out of control in multiples easily. As a singleton copy in commander; if you draw it opening hand, you're casting 3 to 4 mana spells by turn 2 most of the time. It needs no explanation lol
@sykorixgraveborn7142
@sykorixgraveborn7142 4 жыл бұрын
@@Recon-cv1fe exactly my point😂😂
@hez987654321
@hez987654321 4 жыл бұрын
cEDH power 9: Chrome mox, Mox Diamond, Sol Ring, Mana Crypt, Timetwister, Mystic Remora, Demonic Tutor, Ad Nauseam, Cyclonic Rift. Honorable mentions: Dockside Extortionist, Mana Vault, Demonic Consultation, Tymna the Weaver, Tainted Pact, Sylvan Library.
@LeoBushydo
@LeoBushydo 4 жыл бұрын
smothering surely deverves its place in the power nine, every time i see it hit the field if its not destroyed asap that player wins
@kingmric
@kingmric 4 жыл бұрын
I agree
@kymballhight1659
@kymballhight1659 4 жыл бұрын
As above. Got 2 out of a box... Absolutely gleeful to have them. White needed tithe but at only a single white, it's used in almost EVERY deck with any white identity.
@jackdaniels3206
@jackdaniels3206 4 жыл бұрын
I just played with it last night and won with it.
@kymballhight1659
@kymballhight1659 4 жыл бұрын
Been thinking about it though and I guess you need to define what the power nine are to you. They aren't just cards that win because craterhoof wins more games it is cast in then most other cards. I think the power nine is about value.... Very cheap, game winning or near game winning value. As that goes Timetwister is no longer that ridiculously strong. And smothering tithe is very strong, but it isn't cheap enough to be strong at all levels of play. I think that's a criteria that the power nine would need, strong no matter what level you play at. As that goes I think nothing above 3 cmc stays strong in cedh by itself (not as a combo piece) other than Force of Will, which is one of two cards that can stop a turn 0 win con without costing you the game.
@aztcflow4734
@aztcflow4734 3 жыл бұрын
Turn 1: swamp, mana crypt, mana vault, sol ring, dark ritual, mind slaver
@rgbtryhardled636
@rgbtryhardled636 4 жыл бұрын
This is pretty good, i just would have taken out teferis protection and cyclonic rift and added mystic remora and ad nauseum
@Jonathan-qk5ed
@Jonathan-qk5ed 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, 100%
@troysteel1328
@troysteel1328 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with this list but for me I feel like some Honorable mentions are yawgmoth's will because it's absolutely broken, command tower because if you are running more than one color it's in your deck, Mana drain because it gives such an advantage in edh having higher cmc cards and sensei's divining top because besides the combo aspect with other cards as a 1 Mana artifact that gives itself protection and card advantage it's broken love the content in all your videos keep putting them out appreciate all the hard work you do
@Naozwc
@Naozwc 4 жыл бұрын
Hi
@TheCommandersQuarters
@TheCommandersQuarters 4 жыл бұрын
Hi
@Erik-nj6fs
@Erik-nj6fs 3 жыл бұрын
I knew smothering tithe would be in this and I completely agree
@highdark4
@highdark4 4 жыл бұрын
If you had placed Ad Nauseum instead of Smothering Tithe I would agree. Talk about busted, it's one of the most broken cards in a 40 life format
@RoseFromdadead1
@RoseFromdadead1 4 жыл бұрын
I see your ad nauseum and raise you Serra Ascendant!
@waynedude7349
@waynedude7349 4 жыл бұрын
One-Winged Eagle Isn’t Ad Nauseum just Necrologia but worse?
@Meloku171
@Meloku171 4 жыл бұрын
Ad Nauseam is great on a combo finisher with Lab Maniac effects... And that's it. Demonic Tutor is better in every other scenario, and a staple on 7+/10 Commander.
@kurtgrgelwrx8376
@kurtgrgelwrx8376 4 жыл бұрын
@@Meloku171 That's hilariously incorrect. There's literally decks built around Ad Naus, and even if you don't have life gain/Angel's Grace with it, you get to draw around 30 cards for 5 mana at instant speed. It's an insane card and easily better than Rift, which I assume is on there considering the thumbnail but really, really does not deserve it
@highdark4
@highdark4 4 жыл бұрын
@@Meloku171 sorry sir, I disagree. An instant speed draw 12+ is Power 9 level
@faeterran341
@faeterran341 4 жыл бұрын
I have to share this thought that hadn't surfaced for years. I played with someone that would play 60 card multiplayer with 4 sol rings even though we all told him no, its restricted or that we wouldnt play with him if he did. He kept trying to just do it regardless and throw a fit if he got caught.
@michaelmaddox2536
@michaelmaddox2536 4 жыл бұрын
Smothering Tithe is legit broken. I have been in games with seemingly no way out. I top deck it and then I'm good. Its nuts and for anyone to say otherwise shows how much they fail to understand about the game..
@Jonathan-qk5ed
@Jonathan-qk5ed 4 жыл бұрын
It's a very solid/strong card, but by no means is it "broken..." You have to consider that you are spending an entire turn to not effect the board in any immediate way... A smart opponent would just pay the mana each time and treat it like Grand Arbiter Augustin IV (a card that creates a huge tempo benefit, forces opponents to a halt, but is not "broken"). Not to mention any enchantment based spot removal will be targeted at it and now you just wasted a turn... to do nothing?
@michaelmaddox2536
@michaelmaddox2536 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jonathan-qk5ed ok, so should I name other cards that has the same requirements? Hell, let's just take one off the list. Necropotence. Requires an entire turn to set up for cards you don't even get until after your turn end. Cards vs crazy mana ... should I go forward?
@Jonathan-qk5ed
@Jonathan-qk5ed 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaelmaddox2536 Cards win over mana every day, first off... Next, Necropotence has a virtual on impact effect (refill hand) not to mention it is miles higher in terms of versatlity... Top deck it mid game with a next to empty hand, check Run it out when you need to find an answer to something ASAP, check Activate it when you need that game ender next turn, check Devote an early turn to play it and set up your next 2-3 turns in advance, check Whereas Smothering Tithe is a very good early game play, but you then top deck it mid game (against good opponents) and every one is on an even playing field so your opponents actually pay for it and all it did was slow your opponents down, not actively progress your board state, while each of three opponents did so. ^ See the difference?
@felixjouanneau7853
@felixjouanneau7853 4 жыл бұрын
Smothering tithe can definitely fit in your power 9, no doubt about that. It's played in every CEDH deck that runs white so that's a pretty good card eheh
@BrunoNunes83
@BrunoNunes83 4 жыл бұрын
no red cards? D: wheel of fortune deserves a spot.
@Demigod214
@Demigod214 4 жыл бұрын
Sol, demonic tutor, smothering tithe, and necropotence are all in my Teysa commander. I've had them all in an opening hand before. Turn 2 smothering into a t3 necro And grave pact actually had all my opponents concede right out of the gate.
@eustacemcgoodboy9702
@eustacemcgoodboy9702 4 жыл бұрын
You nailed it. Smothering Tithe is absurd and I don't find this include controversial at all. I once made 35 treasures off Smothering Tithe with my Kenrith deck in a 5 player game - yes of course I won that game. Again, we're talking about EDH, not cEDH, In cEDH Smothering Tithe is considered barely playable to unplayable. But cEDH is a different format with different criteria. I think your picks are 100% solid and I fully agree, BUT, the most powerful card in EDH is Cyclonic Rift by far.
@Grooove_e
@Grooove_e 2 жыл бұрын
Teferi's protection has won me several edh games. Totally agree with the pick
@Urinal
@Urinal 2 жыл бұрын
Gaea's Cradle also can be easily modified to tap for mana of any color something green does in spades.
@Cabbrickk
@Cabbrickk 4 жыл бұрын
Sol Ring, Mana crypt, Demonic tutor, Ad nauseum, Smothering tithe, Mystic remora, Timetwister, Protean hulk, Narset, parter of veils
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