The West Mesa Bone Collector

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[@mamamickey2708]

I truly appreciate how you educate us but also never judge the victims!!

[@MM-ou6yh]

yes! she always does a great job of sharing the things about the victims that made the ppl in their lives love them.

[@maggiedk]

Yesss! Also, when she used the word "malarkey" in a sentence defending sex workers, it absolutely warmed my heart 🥺 this is the kind of wholesomeness I love to see

[@reneedennis2011]

I agree!

[@rafaelraferafeama9869]

Rafe💐💐💐💐

[@mamamickey2708]

@Doc 23 we are not God you should not be judging. Yes choices do have consequences. But a type of life style is not always by choice. Instead of judging try sympathy and understanding. Men pay for sex is that wrong?? But if a woman chooses to be paid for sex that’s wrong?? Sounds like a hypocrite to me.

[@emileelamica7701]

One of my biggest fears in life is that I will be kidnapped and someone will tell my family "she's an adult, she can disappear if she wants" when they all know I would NEVER willingly leave my kids. It drives me nuts that police ignore missing person's when the family is screaming that something is wrong, as if their family doesn't know them better than some officer. Imagine all the lives that could be saved or bodies laid to rest if cops didn't brush off missing persons reports....

[@GenXfrom75]

This is so infuriating! These women, girls, were all human beings. Someone loved them. Hard times can lead people to things they wouldn't ordinarily consider. They ALL deserve justice.

[@joshuaarmijo3565]

I went to school With Jamie Barela... She was like 15 when she went missing she just stopped coming to school one day... Little did I know this was why :(

[@melissatodd7669]

Awe wow that's crazy and so sad so young.

[@rosemaryrobertson9016]

@@melissatodd7669 p

[@mack5651]

@@joshuaarmijo3565 may i ask how long who you found out?

[@joshuaarmijo3565]

@@mack5651 I didn't find out until her body was found so in 2009. We just knew she was missing and she never came back to school... I went to elementary and middle school all the way up until she disappeared... I have pics of her only in my year books :(

[@andreakoroknai1071]

I love how when she's talking about a dog, her dog suddenly makes an appearance in the background, like 'did someone mention me?' :)

[@rock8984]

I love how you talk about the victims. You are the most thoughtful true crime you tuber. You have such a kind heart. ❤️

[@courtscott4471]

Yes, you are always so empathetic, it’s very touching.

[@jadefrancescaepperson3124]

Me too, ditto that. Danelle is a great voice for the victims, and my favorite youtuber ever.

[@superhetoric]

Danelle & Shauna Rae are my favs, such thorough and empathetic souls

[@brandypoling716]

She and Jon Chrymes ❤ Superb victim advocates! They remind us that they weren't only victims but a face with heart and soul 😞 I pray that these ladies get justice.

[@mightyea]

I agree! Mentioning their character is amazing! It’s like humanizing them for us.

[@mcgeek4781]

Something notable I want to add about Det. Ida Lopez...she spent a significant amount of time collecting dental records of the missing women and collecting familial DNA samples prior to the discovery of the grave sites. It assisted with speeding up the identification process once the women were found. This allowed families to be notified sooner. I see a lot of hate towards police here in the comments, but she cared greatly about these women.

[@lannamama2034]

She did so much to identify the victims. She definitely deserves praise. She took it to heart and did the best she could do with what she had. It's just all a cruel tragedy.

[@conniebrown983]

It’s true that law enforcement as a whole tends to earn hate and disdain. As a resident of Albuquerque during this time period I can say that Ida Lopez was a God send to the families of the victims.

[@Disorganized_and_chaotic]

30 seconds in but commenting to say that the wall color is so complementing to your skin tone & hair color. It's perfect

[@amethyst5538]

I really want to know the color, please?!

[@daisy8284]

I wish more people would comment on her intelligence, rather than her looks!

[@Disorganized_and_chaotic]

@@daisy8284 I didn't complement her looks, I complemented her choice in paint. I said the paint looks perfect.

[@amethyst5538]

@@daisy8284 That was a bit out of left field. At no point did either of us mention anything about her looks.😒

[@JessicaRodriguez-zy5gz]

@@Disorganized_and_chaotic lmfaooooo wtf....she must be a trump supporter 🤣 they take everything offensive 😘🤣

[@KeepNitReeel]

As a SW & behalf of all SW'ers everywhere *THANK YOU, SO VERY MUCH!* People are much more *then what they do for a living* & as I'm listening to the end of your video... tears. May God protect & bless you & yours always.❤️

[@lannamama2034]

Be safe out there. Always follow your guy feeling.

[@younggunna4089]

SW? could you start using full words for people that dont know that it means? ...

[@hannahlarsen25]

The warzone is outside the Air Force Base. I wonder if it was an airman and the disappearances "stopped" because he got stationed elsewhere.

[@neuralmute]

Good call! I wonder if they even ever bothered investigating?

[@hannahlarsen25]

@@neuralmute doubtful, but after finishing the video I can definitely see how other suspects seemed more promising to focus on

[@neuralmute]

@@hannahlarsen25 True - this is definitely a case with too many suspects, not enough solid evidence, and *way* too many questions left.

[@reneedennis2011]

🤔

[@liammartin8019]

Would be interesting to see if any like crimes near other bases

[@denileigh5027]

What if the “trash” Joseph was throwing out was the sex workers. He didn’t like/Hated sex workers and maybe in his view he saw sex workers as “trash”

[@Muagirl]

That’s actually a really good point its terrible they think of them as trash they’re still human beings 😭

[@evilpoisen1]

Could be! But that area is really used as a dump/ people go shooting in the area/ 4 whealing i jog there all the time. Its huge! I live in that neighborhood and right across from the memorial is more dessert! 118th street turns and pases through a part of the 🏜 circling the city. Turning into different streets. But ppl get lost out there, drug deals. I lived in the warzone too before i moved here not that scary of a place just high on crime. I was so sure when i was younger that it was somone who was coming into town during the state fair. People from all over the state come to Albuquerque during that time. But i never heard this case being called the bone collector, Grew up hearing ppl just saying West Mesa murders. Just last year there were two boys found in the dessert thanks to Snap chat. The kids had gotten involved in a drug deal or something and they killed them out there, not before one of them opened there snap and recorded a bit. . Its sad beautiful place to live, so many places to hide your dirty secrets. Oh the pictures in 7:16 is a park across my house its where the ancient bariel was found so only a block or so from the memorial i was convinced it was more victims it was so close.

[@catherinedavis34]

@@Muagirl That's true

[@lindaarrington9397]

Been the reason before

[@amyreid715]

Idah is trash who is Joseph I'm sorry I live this I watched all of my friends be on earth in the West Mesa 10 years ago and it seems like after 10 years you guys have no idea what really happened none the man that killed Lorenzo montoya's name was Frederick he was a drug dealer talked a 19-year-old girl that worked at the dollar store into being a prostitute she met Lorenzo online they hooked up a date she went in his house when he brought her out he had her rolled up in a carpet Jay shot him in the leg Frederick when he fell he dropped the carpet Frederick said what the hell is that he can see his girlfriend's hair hanging out of the end of the carpet and he said oh it's just trash that's in Frederick shot him in the head and killed him and unrolled the carpet there he found his girlfriend's naked body strangled with the shoelace and a piece of duct tape around her neck for those of you that don't know all the women they found out they're on the Mesa had no personal belongings they were completely naked and all of them had a shoestring and a duct tape also Lorenzo montoya's trailer there's a straight back road that goes right to the dig site I know I just moved from 98th and ghost ranch ghost ranch was named after a mole Mesa and after they found the women KB homes found them first left town cuz they knew that s*** was going to happen and then that woman's dog found the bone after their heavy equipment had Rose those bones to the top I live right around that area please remember that there are 10 more women Shantel waits Vanessa Reed there are so many of them look it up just like in the beginning when my sister disappeared and my mom called the cops and said my daughter is missing the cop said people like that they're not missing they don't want to be found with that attitude they never will be found

[@kaylamarchbanks1836]

This is where I live and let me tell you no one cared about those girls and nothings changed 🥺

[@nagapreciousmetals135]

Honesty I’m from the Bronx and some parts of abq had me on edge lol

[@joshuastaley8483]

Kayla Marchbanks, I LOVE your hair in your photo!!!

[@brandisalazar9912]

I live here too and you are so right!! These poor girls!!

[@AshFord2007]

Albuquerque war zone... cops don't even go there. Last I heard the theory on these, was that it was a truck driver but there is a lot of land out here.... the Mesa has a lot of space to hide a body.

[@ook428]

So so feckin sad. Is their any campaigns for change! I know there are a lot of problems out there that seem to need to taken highest priority. But well if you don't say anything nothing will be heard. And it seems very much like a problem that there are a few things that can be done to make everything safer!?

[@melissacoviello2886]

Thank you for truly telling the victims stories. As someone who is 26 years sober it means so much that you don’t judge them for being addicts or in sex work.

[@Neongummybearss]

God bless you and your sobriety. I hope and pray you stay sober. And continue to prosper in life.

[@Orangestardust]

People are people. Period. What substances you take don't make you any less of a human being.

[@ChristinasJourney1]

I love the compassion you can clearly see when you are speaking about these ladies .... I wish there was more like you. Much love to you from Tennessee

[@anikajoy5739]

Danielle is amazing. Do you watch Stephanie Harlow???

[@Anamilkk]

we need people like her in positions of power, not these selfish loons x)

[@asil0072]

​@@anikajoy5739You really seem to be on a mission to get this person you mention some likes and subs. 2nd time you're doing this. Pretty low to advertise her competitor on HER own channel.

[@joemac8664]

The 2 things that you asked about that I immediately thought I may know answers to are, 1. The photos from the man in missouri are of woman using heroin and nodding out. I feel like that's why they worded it as "people who usually don't have those pictures taken". They look like heavy drug users from bad neighborhoods IMO. And the 2nd is the tree tag and why the man may have been visiting a nursery, he may have bought things to mask the fact that he may have been buying bags of Lyme to help break down and speed up the decomposition process. It would be interesting to know if any chemical tests were done on the soil from the grave location. But idk if that makes sense to anyone else but both of those things came to my mind right away when mentioned. Thanks for another great vid!!

[@moonmade1096]

Great points!

[@PiXie232]

I immediately thought that too.. they didn’t look dead.. they were nodded out on heroin. It can, to the untrained eye, especially in photos, look like someone is “dead”.. but they were just women with serious drug problems, and I pray that they’ve been able to escape that lifestyle- because it’s literally about 3 in every 100 that makes it completely out. That’s an interesting point you brought up about the Lyme to help break down the decomp under the tree. Do you think that would affect the growth of the tree in any way, having that much Lyme underneath it like that? (If that’s what happened?)

[@elizabethgreer27]

Those women were 100% nodded out on heroin. (Since they werent dead). Absolutely.

[@AutomaticDuck300]

The nursery guy is likely, given his criminal history, but there's no clear evidence for any suspect. Just circumstantial evidence. I don't think this case will ever be solved, sadly.

[@isabelcandelaria5327]

Danelle, I am the mother of Monica Candelaria and I reported her missing May of 2003 I last saw her Mothers day around May 15th. I also went on the local news and put up missing posters with my daughters picture.I want to thank you for the compassion and accuracy reporting this case. You did the best I have seen and I truly thank you and appreciate your reporting! You are a gifted women and it shows in this entire reporting video of this case. Thank you all the comments above for your compassion on this story. Danielle did tremendous in the accuracy of the whole story. I just want to say that I believe it was Lorenzo Montoya! It is so eerie listening to the video he had on his phone when he was killed for carrying out the girl Sheika dead and wrapped in duct tape and a blanket.

[@christina.T1690]

I’ve often heard that in housing developments, many companies will look the other way if they find old bones during construction, the reasoning being that if it is discovered that there is an ancient Native American gravesite found, all construction will stop and no one gets paid. 😬

[@deborahybarra8466]

Wow I didn't know that.

[@maebandy]

All-day long, it happens/happened so often that it was a pretty common plotline or cheap joke in 80's and 90's tv and movies. I believe they ended up legislating it so that the penalties for disturbing desecrated ground are so steep that people tend to report it now, it may even be a claimable loss clause in insurance for new development funding. However, if you are not a developer with a stalwart reputation to protect...

[@sarahk8053]

That's unfortunately a thing in most places around the world. Archaeologists are seen as a nuisance by building companies so often things are not reported so the archaeological dig will not interrupt the project.

[@jennycornejo4646]

I was thinking the same thing !! Maybe they just turned a blind eye to it because they didn't want to deal with everything that comes from reporting these findings.

[@wordsleuth992]

I have heard of this happening because the builders don’t want delays if they have promised a certain date to buyers that their house will be completed. It’s terrible but it happens. This happened to someone I know when they were building - they found hair that was braided when they were digging out the backyard to level it. The police came out at night with a big spotlight on the backyard and an investigation was done. The story we were told was that it was a painter that decided to hack off his hair so he braided it, cut it and threw it in the backyard. Sounded suspicious to me, but that was what they came up with.

[@kaeonian7614]

It’s so sad how society determines that some lives aren’t as important as others.

[@margaretrodriguez4866]

That is not my way of thinking, however, all lives are important but if you put yourself for whatever reason is into a position that is detrimental to yourself, for me, it is difficult to expect everyone to put their time, money and effort into searching for these people when they go missing. I know that many will think I am a terrible person but not everyone has the same life style or even way of thinking. I've had close relatives pass away from drug overdoses but it's not the dealers fault that my own blood decided to use. Everyone wants the government thus tax payers to conduct these extremely expensive tests and searches for people who did not even care enough about themselves. I'm not heartless and I love true crime shows but I guess my mind can't work that way. I feel more for children and mentally challenged people than those who choose to put themselves in danger. I know it's difficult on the family and I understand completely what the losses of my 3 siblings did to my parents and the heartache I myself have. But your life, your choice, my life, my choice not to go out there searching for people that put themselves in those positions.

[@AutomaticDuck300]

In the 70s and 80s, some police forces referred to crimes involving prostitutes as NHI. It stands for No Humans Involved. They literally didn't see them as human. Seriously.

[@demetriomontoya320]

Society? YOU are society. I'm society. We are society. If you are gonna blame anyone you have to start with yourself.

[@hillarylandaverde3901]

It’s not society who decides the value of others, it first starts with oneself…..

[@jasminevalencia2982]

This sounds like a dirty cop, at least to me it does.

[@Yeliahailey]

Interesting that there were rumors that it was a cop at the time too. Would make sense especially since the cops didn't want to report these women missing or make it public knowledge.

[@stacystephanie4555]

Why was I thinking the same too!

[@jasminevalencia2982]

Hailey Christy exactly!

[@jalexoneschanel1356]

This case has been around my entire life and when I was a kid when I first heard of it everyone thought it was a crooked cop. APD is a shit show as well so it’s not unlikely. Now that it’s been dormant for a while I think the killer either retired from killing because of the attention, or died. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was some old cop or rancher that would abuse these women and girls and then kill them.

[@Skittenmeow]

I'm only part way through but I completely agree. I was also immediately thinking a cop could be heavily involved in the drug supply to these women and actually assisting in causing their lives to fall apart. A woman-hating cop who sees them as weak and susceptible to addiction, then causing them to have to go into sex work to fund their addiction. Once they're really separated from their families and particularly vulnerable he could take out his misogyny on them.

[@TheMadSounds]

So glad someone finally covered this. I live here and remember when this happened. It was huge in NM but it seems like no one else- even in the true crime community, knows about it. I hope they are able to figure it out definitively some day.

[@MalaikaCutii]

Honestly.... I was born in NM, grew up there and just recently made the move 4 months ago to Cali... to say the least living in Albuquerque as a young women.. ALONE was enough for me to get my first gun and pepper spray. It's beautiful there but the crime is OUT OF CONTROL I think about my girlfriends who go to UNM and live by themselves. I'm like the only one in my friend group that is into true crime so I'm constantly telling them to not walk back to your car on your phone, always know your surroundings and being kinda paranoid is never a terrible thing 🧐

[@sarahjenkins8167]

I’m from Cruces and I’m going to ABQ for work after I graduate and my boyfriend is begging me not to because the crime there is so bad. It’s statistically more dangerous than NYC

[@tessharte1307]

Lucky you got out . It’s horrible here . Worse every day.

[@tessharte1307]

@@sarahjenkins8167 stay safe. I live here. Just be aware .

[@floraguilar966]

I totally agree I am so glad I left New Mexico I’m not from there but I moved there because of my husband and I Hated it it’s so boring and the crime it’s absolutely ridiculous no consequences for the idiots that like to drink and drive nothing but a slap on the wrist. I am so glad I left and never looked back.

[@MalaikaCutii]

@@floraguilar966 worst DWI state in the country ....and that's up against Florida 😅 it's because of the oppression and poverty in NM and the trauma through decades of generations both native and Hispanic/Mexican 💔

[@Atxbrynn]

Danelle is such an underrated KZbinr she puts so much work in all of her videos. I hope one day she gets the recognition she deserves.

[@mildlycornfield]

Unfortunately, I could see this being the result of multiple killers collaborating... These poor women and girls deserve so much better.

[@felixfelix2576]

I think one Creep. It's not easy to get several psychpaths to work together as a team. Not impossible I suppose...

[@Bbybunn]

2 can keep a secret if ome of them is dead 🤔

[@kieramcgregor]

@@Bbybunn but the murder of Montoya had nothing to do with Joseph and they aren’t connected

[@Bbybunn]

@@kieramcgregor yeah it was more in response to jib jabbs comment

[@kesharaa2355]

Highly unlikely. The women were all on the same line of work, around the same age etc .

[@madeleine8579]

I greatly appreciate how much Danelle educates herself and doesn’t just spew facts at us. Shows how much she cares & sets her apart 💚💚

[@ninithenoob900]

unsolved serial killer cases make me so uncomfortable and paranoid

[@hannahstolzer2085]

Same! Like his burial place was discovered and serial killers don’t stop sooooo he likely moved elsewhere and found a new spot.

[@parispatterson3778]

Or he probably died but there will always be copycats some foolish person will start killing young women again 🤦🏾‍♀️.....I hate this I’m praying for these women family

[@We_Are_All_Vultures]

Right. They never stop... unless they die or go to prison or move etc

[@suzimonkey345]

The first victim, who was not a sex worker, of the Yorkshire Ripper, was described in the British press as his, “First INNOCENT victim!” 🙄🤬🤯🤬🤬

[@lannamama2034]

Sickening isn't it. I've seen documentaries about that case. The writings and the things they called the female victims in the local newspapers was disgusting. Just appalling. Like they weren't even human or worth the time.

[@glasgowjohn7831]

well, she was

[@XxxXxx-oh2wc]

​@@lannamama2034sex workers are evil too trust em

[@danyelliebelly6964]

1. Love the new space! 2. I am obsessed with the new editing! The little words with the victims names! It looks so good! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 I see the work you are doing girl. 🖤

[@user-texaspoontappa]

Yes! I always love a visual reference for these types of videos. And it looks so clean and nice!!

[@danyelliebelly6964]

@@user-texaspoontappa exactly just makes everything so crisp and professional I love it! 🖤

[@wordsleuth992]

Thank you so much for including these women’s names and dates of disappearances with their pictures. We need to see these women as they are still unaccounted for. Thank you!

[@laceyjade9834]

Yes! Yes! So much yes!!

[@sallykohorst8803]

The video was not too long as this was a very tough video to do. Just keep all this information out there. I am also a new subscriber. It is so hard to believe that people take and kill people for no reason at all. So sad for that lady with an unborn child too.

[@twelvesmylimit]

The construction workers saw the remains. Just like when archaeological remains are found, work must stop and therefore money is lost.

[@PiXie232]

The construction workers never even saw the remains!! (Or if they did, it was purposely kept quiet by their bosses.) It was the neighbors walking by with their dog, and their dog saw a bone sticking out of the ground, which led them them to walk over and investigate further. When they realized that it may be human remains, she messaged her sister who was a nurse and sent her photos of it, and she confirmed that it was, and they called the police immediately. The construction workers had been digging and disrupting that area for a while, and unknowingly working over that mass grave site for god only knows how long, while *apparently NO ONE NOTICED a damn thing! Bones were being churned up constantly, that’s why most of them were scattered over the entire plot, although luckily, a few of the bodies were fortunately still found intact enough for the most part- fairly undisturbed. They all either somehow REALLY DIDNT SEE *ANY* BONES AT ALL OF THOSE 11 WOMEN (which I find VERY HARD to believe) when they were digging up that area... super suspish.. OR, they were paid or threatened to keep their mouths shut by the higher ups, because they were told to, so they could continue with their work so they wouldn’t be shut down *just for the sake of an investigation*. Because you’re right.. they would’ve lost a lot of money if they would’ve had to have stop for an investigation. But.. then the recession hit so it was put on hold anyway, so it didn’t matter. And yes, companies find it irksome, even downright ridiculous, when archaeological sites or remains are found, or major murder investigations such as this case, are blown wide open, right on their property where they happen to be building. But that’s the risk these companies willingly and knowingly take, and it’s not very often that it happens. That’s what insurance is for. This happens all the time in the UK when they’re doing renovations and they stumble on very old archaeological sites that have been hidden underneath the building that is being renovated, and they have to halt everything, sometimes for a few years. This is nothing new. And the company is protected by insurance, and the culture will be saved, and if it’s a crime, such as a rape/murder, they will have a much greater chance of bringing the victim’s family justice, by finding out who did these heinous acts before they get covered over with concrete. Money isn’t everything. There’s far more important things in life.

[@TropicOfGemini]

esp if those remains belong to anyone indigenous. it can be classified as an “indian burial ground” which can stop construction entirely which means they wouldnt get paid. so sad that money trumps justice or human life.

[@GenXfrom75]

Danelle, you did such a great job here. Really did justice to this case. My prayers to each and every family affected by the monster who stole these lives. EVERYONE has value.

[@sofiab.9129]

They could have done great things in their lifes... i am 25, was a prostitute (it is terrible, wrote a long comment avout it) and at the same time studied social work. i stopped with alot of help and now work with girls who were just like me. how many bullets i dodged...

[@deborahybarra8466]

I'm so proud of you!! :) And grateful for those who helped you towards a better life. Hugs 💕

[@deborahybarra8466]

Prayers for them & you from me too. 🙏 💖

[@mack5651]

i totally agree!!! her and stephanie harlowe are my favorites bc of how well done and in-depth their research is.

[@GenXfrom75]

@@sofiab.9129 I slept on the streets as a runaway at 14 in Hollywood, CA. I was coerced by a grown man to run away with him from South Carolina, so naive! The more stories I hear and watch, the more it hits me how LUCKY I am to be alive now, all these years later. I'm glad you're still here too!

[@angelr8910]

I have just found your channel due to another video I watched about this case. I just want to say how proud I am that you treated theses lady’s with dignity and respect. Everyone should be treated the same. There death shouldn’t have ever been ignored because of there history. I don’t know anything about being on the streets or sex work but, as a fellow human being and Christian every life is precious. Can’t begin to imagine what these families went throw and continue to be going throw. Prayers to the families and children of theses ladies. I pray you find answers one day!!

[@mw2swrosa]

Scary thing, I went to university there got my apartment with a couple. One night a guy broke into my window and tried to take me. Thank God my neighbor was on his way to work and jumped in and threw the guy down the stairs. We were on the 3rd floor. I have family there but I will not ever live there again

[@roshekathompson3072]

I am happy you are okay.💖

[@mw2swrosa]

@@roshekathompson3072 thank you. Definately grateful for my neighbor. I moved out that week. My old roommates told me he broke in again but the cops got there quick.

[@brey1720]

😱 so glad you are still here and were able to get help!

[@goliathtigerfishes]

Dang he tried it from the third floor?! Nuts.

[@Snoozleberrilichious]

so like.. what apartment complex cause im in abq and id rather not

[@arim96]

What’s crazy is, although New Mexico is now more populated, there is SO MUCH land with absolutely NOTHING around. Imagine how many more burial sites there could be 😥

[@ActiveAussie2024]

It reminds me of South Australia or the Northern Territory here in Australia. Massive amounts of desert, cities and small towns where a lot of crime occurs and a lot of drug abuse. Serial killer territory.

[@nhvanonerz8244]

@@ActiveAussie2024 there is 80 million dollars buried somewhere walter whites lifeswork

[@Raesbudgetingworld]

Serial Killers like this just don’t stop killing. They move to another state, or he moved the spot that he buries the victim. They just don’t stop, it’s compulsion. Not at-least until they die. I just don’t think it’s a pimp. A pimp wouldn’t have killed 24 of his girls. That’s money he’s not making. That’s the work of a serial killer with an mental illness, whom as Danelle said knew that killing sex workers and prostitutes he would get away with it.

[@heather4767]

Or he's dead. But yeah ur right- he would never just stop. That's only happened 1 time ever before that I know of- Dennis Rader BTK.

[@basic_CeceRae]

My thoughts exactly. Often when someone has the compulsion to kill they choose sex workers cause they view them as less and it somehow makes them feel that their crimes aren’t as bad or are justified. You are right the compulsion doesn’t just go away. The hunting ground changes or the dumping ground changes. This person is likely still out there and still killing if they are alive.

[@no_peace]

They do sometimes stop... Something in their life or body (brain) changes, including possibly going to jail or being in a hospital Different people do the same things for different reasons. That Joseph Blea sounds like the kind of person who wouldn't have the self-control to keep himself out of trouble. But someone like Golden State Killer absolutely can. Or they get old enough that their brain changes, or they aren't strong enough to overpower people anymore. Age is a huge factor in likelihood of someone committing violent crime

[@Mellyboowhowho]

Supposedly the murderer has killed in other states. However, if you know people in high places you get away with it 😞

[@ninjagirl226]

My first thought was if this could have been the Long Island Serial Killer since it appears they targeted similar people. Though he didn't really bury his victims just put them in burlap sacks; the timeline also doesn't work since it's believed the LISK was active from 1996-2010.

[@BarbieBando]

*They should have took the items (clothing & jewelry) they found in Joseph’s home and brought them to the families/associates to see if they matched/belonged to the missing/m*rdered women. The last 2 men you spoke about could’ve been a team. FBI should have seen if the 2 men knew each other or had crossed paths.*

[@Carmen-us1ew]

Maybe the older guy even watched Lorenzo, knowing what he was doing. I think Lorenzo killed most but the other guy maybe killed some of them too.

[@YukiScribbles]

It's possible that they were doing things together and shared the dumping site. One would gather information, the other would do the dirty work the first time and then they'd switch. That would explain why evidence linking them both were in the burial "dumping" site.

[@MONIMONKS]

Very possible!

[@Ash_rose444]

I was thinking the same thing. Especially because they seemed to get to know a lot of the girls they may have picked up on what the other one was doing and met that way

[@ga.almu12]

Didn’t think of this but it sounds very likely!

[@jesscorner6381]

I really think this is what happened. They both hated sex workers so much and Lorenzo already killed people before.

[@antheacole4574]

Doyen I was also thinking the same but a step further as in a ring of Male creeps, may be even cops, which is why the investigations were held off for so long and evidence not picked up. The last 2 suspects I feel, have a connection some how.

[@bbgirl800]

Been living in ABQ for over two years now. The drug use/abuse out here is insane. Like literal walking zombies.

[@rondakelly1431]

You realize that is happening in every city right?

[@bbgirl800]

@@rondakelly1431 well I've lived in 4 major cities as of now and I don't see that.

[@rondakelly1431]

@bri then your eyes are closed. If you think Albuquerque is the only city with a homeless and drug problem you should actually watch some news channels and wake up.

[@aprilsilvers381]

@@rondakelly1431 true but some cities are worse then others. There are definitely more homeless on the west coast then here where I live. Of course we have homeless but I've seen it on the west and some other larger cities.

[@raoul3719]

@@aprilsilvers381 There's a lot of drug use in the SW US and we can expect more with the border now basically wide open. Thanks Brandon

[@briannahernandez7626]

i’ve grown up in albuquerque and i live very close to where bodies were found. So tragic and horrible what happened to these laddies and the injustice done in this case. The site is now a memorial park with crosses for all the victims found there.

[@tangerinefizz11]

All of these cases are tragic, but the case of Syllania Edwards is especially sad. She was only a child, and her short life seems to have been full of nothing but heartache and abuse.

[@missjacksum]

I remember requesting this from you about a year ago! So happy you finally did it! I grew up in Albuquerque and remember being a teen when this broke. I then went on to be part of an organization called YWU and holding vigils and creating altars for these women at our events. I still think about them all the time and can’t wait for this terrible mystery to be solved. I know it will be! ❤️🙏🏽

[@tessharte1307]

I live here in Albuquerque. Thank you for giving the girls so much dignity. You are an amazing soul. Respect.

[@Love__heavenlee]

Thid is my home town thank you for covering this story and bringing attention for the families hurting 💕

[@rabbitsaurus]

It’s always so weird to hear other people talk about ABQ lol. Nobody ever talks about New Mexico.

[@Raventooth]

Ever been to los lunas?

[@rabbitsaurus]

@@Raventooth yes los lunas sucks 😂

[@cherihill2003]

Roswell sucks too. I call it Drugberg.

[@parallelsandtangents938]

Look up the story of the Toybox killer.

[@asil0072]

​@@parallelsandtangents938one-day they will find all kinds of bones in that lake. They figure there are tons of toy box killers all over the states.

[@sabreenapadilla5866]

I was born and raised here in Albuquerque and I remember vividly watching these on the news almost every night when I was little with my mom. We used to live in West Gate which is very close to the West Mesa. Thank you so much for covering a case on/in ABQ! I love watching your channel every week 🤩

[@lydiaheitman1443]

ABQ/Corrales here! I remember it too...so sad.

[@jalexoneschanel1356]

I lived in Los Lunas at the time, but I remember seeing it on the news too. I was 12 when the last body was found, I think, and I still think it was a cop that did it all.

[@audreymartinez476]

I was born and raised in Rio Rancho! But now I live in ABQ in a neighborhood right by Westgate. I don't remember this when it was happening because I was like 13 and didn't pay attention, but it feels crazy to be so close to where they were found. It's awful how these women were treated.

[@sabreenapadilla5866]

@@audreymartinez476 I was in ABQ for most of my childhood and then moved to Rio Rancho around middle school, how funny! It is it’s crazy to think that there was a serial killer where we’ve grown up :(

[@danaemychele]

I live in Albuquerque too... coors and I-40! I moved here around 2003 and this case, as big as it is, should have been all over the news. Was it not covered because of the location? I feel like people need to know that there is still a serial killer out there on the loose! Especially with as many homeless as we have now!

[@brittanybennett2673]

Thank you Danelle for shedding light on all types of people! You are so compassionate and respectful, such a breath of fresh air. Thank you! I hope and pray these women and their families find justice and peace!!!

[@leeannjohnson1808]

Thank You for speaking the names, and telling the heart breaking stories of these women. Thank you for showing them, and by extension their family's, the respect that "law enforcement" would not. As the mother of a drug abuser, these stories were really hard to hear, and make me so grateful that God made a way for my daughter to get, and stay, clean.

[@LovetheFight184]

This is a case that I've never heard of before. Thank you so much for bringing it to light and giving these victims a platform. I pray that they get justice someday.

[@carmenramirez1032]

I have a suggestion for you. Nixmary Brown was a little girl who was abused and killed by her mom and step dad. I lived in the neighborhood where this happened and no one knows anything. I believe you can get her story out there.

[@livinglifewithky]

Nixmary's case was heartbreaking.

[@charlottejane1223]

You should email or privately message Danelle as there would be a higher chance of her seeing it, this case is incredibly sad and I would love to see her cover it also.

[@bg6304]

This was in my recommendations today when my friend and I had just talked about this last night. We were talking about growing up very close to where this happened and passing by it everyday on our way to school. I’m very glad to hear more people talk about the women and everyone is very grateful for the memorial park. Thank you for this upload!

[@mollyskye3216]

Omg I live in Albuquerque. This case has always haunted me. I love my city but it's EXTREMELY dangerous here, especially in the "war zone" where prostitution is huge. I remember driving through that area as a kid and seeing women get picked up. There are tons of reports of women getting kidnapped and assaulted in that area daily. So sad

[@hannahstolzer2085]

That’s why sex work should be legal. So the women aren’t trapped into it and they have protection from the government 😭

[@jhernandez788]

@@hannahstolzer2085 or we can push them to get real paying job and help for their addictions.

[@mh1315]

THANK YOU for this!! I once read a quote from a SEX TRAFFICKING RESEARCHER that basically said “If your trans, if your hyper-sexualized are you really a victim or are you asking for it”. It disgusts me.

[@mrspig3544]

Paused @ 22:10,,,,, I find it so sus as well how did the people digging in these sites NOT notice 11 different peoples remains???

[@hannahstolzer2085]

They might have and just assumed it was Native American burial grounds and therefore ignored it to avoid fines. It’s horrible to think about but likely the case.

[@pattystone4157]

The digging stops and so does their paycheck when that happens. Money makes some people look the other way.

[@asil0072]

It wasn't until construction quit and it became a flood containment pool that the first bone was found after the water got very low.

[@MirandaLaRuee699]

WOW! NEW SUB. love the way you go about not just covering/documenting these horrendous homicides… but TRULY painting a picture of just exactly WHO these people were … I love that you paint a complete picture of who these victims truly were as people , their lives and family. not just being remembered as being just another face-less victim… I love the way you approach the case/cases and truly tell the story of these victims while documenting/and updating each process-from the start of each initial homicide report , to the sometimes slow & grueling process of the investigation, to ALL the other in between, like following /covering leads unbiasedly and professionally.

[@kellythom7295]

I love how you talked about the victims. As a social worker we focus on person first language, where their circumstances dont define them, and you just do an amazing job at that. I remember hearing about this case as a young child (I was born in '98) and thinking it was the scary plot to an episode of CSI- it truly gave me nightmares. I had chills listening to this video!

[@Michelle-by9fp]

I commend people like you for being able to do that for people. That hits close to home. 😭💙

[@kellythom7295]

@@Michelle-by9fp thank you!! I love what I do and wouldn't change it for the world. It's very rewarding work ♡

[@hannahstolzer2085]

Can I ask what you majored in/how you got the job? I like the idea of it but I’m a senior (99’) doing a chem major.

[@katiebassett1366]

I watch so many of these things that I’m pretty much desensitized to these videos by now, but this one got to me. Imagine your daughter, the light of your life, falling on hard times and being taken from you. Imagine the rest of the world forgetting about her because what she went through and the choices she made seemed dirty to them. Imagine at the end of it, when you have closure but no peace they kinda promise you one day they might get around to planting a tree in her name. It’s just gut wrenching. Thank you for speaking up for these women.

[@jasonhorton]

This is welcome distraction from...everything!

[@tinas_hotdog_sophie]

Till she said it happened in New Mexico, i was just hoping it wasn't one of the battlegrounds. America, be like New Mexico. Without the serial killer.

[@ifloetic]

nah, it's just another reminder that the world is a terrible place

[@mack5651]

it truly truly is

[@no_peace]

??? People are dead

[@KrispyKristN]

So tragic hearing everything that happened. Half of my family live in the war zone till this day ,

[@ginasreview1030]

The EDITING. Holy crap, you really outdone yourself Danelle!! 👏🏽👏🏽✨ Regardless of the editing, the way you do your work, I have always appreciated everything you've done/do for the victims.

[@lornaginetteharrison7168]

Off topic, but kinda - _sorta?_ - tangential: A few years ago, I was on holiday in an extremely remote part of the beautiful Isle of Anglesey, off the north-west coast of Wales here in the UK, with my lovely, adorably scruffy "Heinz 57" rescue dog, Tarka. We’d been exploring a wonderfully deserted beach, & headed into a parallel vast area of undulating sand dunes, as Tarka was running hither & yon following the enticing smell of rabbits [don’t worry, she had neither the speed, skill, inclination or "killer instinct" to ever actually catch &/or despatch any poor innocent creature - it was all about being a devoted canine connoisseur of scent trails for her!] when she suddenly stopped in her tracks, & became absolutely fixated on one particular spot & frantically started digging in earnest. I rushed over to see what had caught her interest, slightly worried that she was going to get herself wedged in a rabbit burrow (bless her, she wasn’t the most svelte of dogs!) when to my shock, I realised there was what looked like human bones, possibly a rib cage, partially sticking out of the ground! I’m still not quite sure precisely why I did what I did next, but I joined Tarka’s excavation efforts, & started scrabbling away at the dirt myself, trying to uncover more of the bones, which were clearly the remains of someone, or "something," WAY too large to be a regrettably deceased bunny! I guess I was worried that if I immediately reported our findings to the police, & it WASN’T a human skeleton, I’d feel like a massive idiot! Of course, if it WAS that of a murder victim, I could have been destroying vital evidence of a crime scene; yet at the same time, I was desperately looking for some kind of reassurance that it was in fact that of an animal. Well, _FAR_ too late to cut this unnecessarily long story short, [my sincere apologies!] but after approximately 20+ minutes, & several torn, bloody fingernails on my part later - the ground was deceptively compacted & hard - I’d exposed enough of the bones to confirm to my own satisfaction that the skeletal remains were thankfully *FAR* too large to belong to a person, but were instead those of an entire adult cow! [Tarka, by this time, seemed to have come to the conclusion that I’d totally taken leave of my senses, & having become somewhat bored with digging, was off delicately sniffing some beautiful oxeye daisies - then urinating on them! - before continuing her rabbit-scenting quest!] According to the lady I rented the cottage from, it turned out there was a local cattle farmer who was in the habit of dumping any diseased, deceased bovine bodies in the surrounding area, rather than informing the vet, DEFRA, or disposing of their carcasses through the usual legitimate channels - possibly dating back to when we had a catastrophic foot & mouth outbreak in Britain in the early 2000s, or perhaps from bovine TB, which were reportable diseases that might have lead to his entire herd having to be put down - so he just "hid" them off his property, doing his best to cover them up...wild scavengers, & the shifting nature of the sand dunes, did the rest. So whilst I was inordinately happy & relieved nobody _human_ had been horribly murdered & dumped in this isolated place, for those 20 or so minutes when there remained in my mind at least, the chance that it *COULD* be the skeleton of an unfortunate individual who’d met with a terrible, untimely fate, I was definitely _STILL_ considerably freaked-out! I can’t imagine the absolute horror of randomly accidentally stumbling across a genuine serial killer’s body dump site of just _so many victims_ of this unsolved case, in such a remote location in West Mesa. Apologies once again for this no doubt needlessly lengthy, rambling missive! Please accept this virtual trophy by way of a reward, in the [let’s be honest!] _EXTREMELY unlikely event_ that anyone actually had the patience to make it this far, & the fortitude to read all this to the very end!!!🏆 PS: Kudos to Danelle for concentrating so much of this upload’s runtime on the lives & hardships of these vulnerable women. It goes without saying that in a perfect world, it shouldn’t have to be necessary to "humanise" these victims in the hearts & minds of members of the general public in order for them to care, purely because of their addictions & hence subsequent sex work. *ALL* of these women absolutely mattered, & are _truly deserving_ of justice & compassion.

[@krystaladair2586]

Are you a writer by profession???? Because if your not then I would recommend a career change 😂 I was transfixed by your descriptions and loved the story.....thanks for sharing!!

[@lornaginetteharrison7168]

@@krystaladair2586 : Thank you so much for your absolutely lovely comment! I’m definitely _NOT_ a writer, as my secondary school English teacher would wholeheartedly concur! The *VAST* majority of responses I _USUALLY_ get to comments I leave inspired by YT videos are overwhelmingly negative, so of late I’ve certainly tried to curtail when & what I personally respond to! As is no doubt obvious, I "tend to take a decidedly scenic route" [genuine quote from Mrs. Freeman, English teacher!] when trying to get my feelings across, & most of the criticisms I receive are in a similar vein of: "Why don’t you just get to the damned point?!!" So it was genuinely wonderful to read your positive comment! Cheers again!☺️

[@christyhoehn8244]

Lorna- I read your whole story- very interesting!!. We lived in London in the 1980s and because of mad cow disease, we’ve never been allowed to donate blood- not that I’ve missed it- lol, but kind of weird? I’ve always wondered what my reaction would be if I stumbled upon human remains- “ death” has always terrorized me even as a little kid- and I only saw one dead person ever- I have no idea why I have such an almost phobia- BUT I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t have the nerve to start digging with my hands!!!! You are so brave!!!

[@Lisa-hd7wb]

I really like how serious and respectful your attitude is towards the victims. I feel like these days a lot of people forget that these stories are about real people with real families and loved ones who miss them.

[@Alexis-bl7un]

The video clip...my heart literally dropped. This is absolutely heartbreaking

[@sassiebean9052]

LOVE LOVE LOVE the respect you show to not just the victims but also to those who cared about them. ❤❤❤

[@olivialopez6885]

I live in Albuquerque. I love the way you have given these women a name! These women were someone's daughter, sister mother, friend etc not just drug addicted sex workers. I went to school with Julie Nieto and her sister Valerie they were quiet and somewhat shy. These sisters were extremely close they were always together growing up. Sadly Valerie died of a drug overdose in 2007 in a hotel room in the war zone. These two women were just like everyone else. Went to school and were good kids. You never know how drugs can affect someone's future. RIP Valerie and Julie Nieto.

[@skreemqueen756]

This case has haunted me ever since I watched the Dateline on it. The cold case detective who first made the list of victims is such an amazing woman. My heart is broken for the families and I pray they will get answers. It’s infuriating to hear how the cases were initially treated because of the victims being in sex work! Thank you Danelle for sharing their case ♥️ Love your new work space.

[@miachaw5703]

this makes me feel sick -- it is so horrific to consider how many women may have been spared if the police did their jobs and treated sex-workers like human beings. i wonder if there is any evidence of the suspects interacting with each other and if they could have dumped in the same place and targeted the same women. thank you for a tactful and informative video

[@Kosecant]

Very late, I know, but I’ve lived in ABQ for 20 years, and something that’s always been a problem is that the police here are extremely understaffed, like there should be more than twice as many officers for a city as big as ours. It makes it so there is always a massive backlog of cases that need to be investigated. Also, the west mesa is absolutely massive, and very impractical to search, making it an unfortunately perfect place to hide evidence

[@rarecandy3445]

@gerald traveller the USA has become a proto-christian fascist state. they dont care about prostitutes or women here because the newer religious nature of our country views them as lesser than men.

[@zeretsolei]

The theory it’s a dirty cop sticks with me they would have trusted them and would probably get in the car with them. It could have also been that they both shared the site to put the bodies.

[@midnightportal3952]

He could've acted like he was arresting them then killed them.

[@melissamack333]

@@midnightportal3952 yeah, would a sex worker actually go with a cop willingly? I know there's cops that engage in that type of stuff but it seems to me if I was in those girls position obviously breaking the law I wouldn't take a cop up as my client just on principle. Idk tho🤷🏻‍♀️ them getting fake arrested makes more sense to me if it was an officer.

[@mw2swrosa]

Im from NM and its who the person is and race fell into the I don't care of the APD. I'm glad your bringing this to the world's attention. Scary thing Epstien had a ranch in NM. But for indiginous and Latina women and young there are many more missing women. NM ihas started MMIW. There was also a serial killer Robert Fry in Farmington, NM people think hes killed more people then he said

[@lauralmiller8852]

I am also from NM and I have done some work with APD when I was studying criminology at UNM 2 years back. I can 100 percent verify the "I don't give a F***” attitude police have to minority groups. Hell, they call an entire Neighborhood the WAR zone as a tactical and political manauver… to justify their over policing of that area. They have also been investigated by the DOJ and still have yet to comply with the DOJ.

[@All5AJz]

@@lauralmiller8852 exactly .. I work with recovering addicts and I know a couple of women in war zone that escaped a couple with a garotte that the female signals him and he chocks them out ... They will not tell their stories to police because of the no response for them.

[@mw2swrosa]

@@lauralmiller8852 that's good to hear. I know they had some not so great cops when I lived there but I have notice this year when my mom was at UNM for cancer treatments they would walk around and say hi. So yes there has been a change but in the 1990s and 2000's it was different

[@Michelle-by9fp]

@@lauralmiller8852 A large portion of APD are Hispanic themselves, so that makes no sense

[@katrinascott981]

@@All5AJzoh no poor women. what happened

[@chelseamccort6212]

Thank you for your videos and for speaking up for all victims regardless of the job..... Also, maybe a bit of thought or insight on why the construction company may never have "seen anything" . Im have a degree in anthropology/archeology from University of Wyoming (lots of desert/plaind and old Native American burials around entire state) and something that was continually emphasized to us was that if an oil company, construction company, anyone were to stumble upon anything that looked archeological/historical/bones they were supposed to report it to the state. The state was then supposed to send out an archeologist to confirm it wasn't anything important. However, while waiting for the archaeologist and their report the company couldn't continue working in that area. So often, instead of stopping work when things are found (and losing lots of $) they just keep working and just don't report things. Could definitely have happened (or something like it) in this situation. The construction co could have very well been aware of the bones but thought it wasn't important and rather than risk being temporarily shut down if they reported it, they just kept working and kept quiet about it. (Construction co or any subcontractors, everyone would be aware of this policy). Not sure of the laws in AZ but I would bet they would be similar to WY because there is a lot Native American sites there as well

[@sundayze]

I grew up in NM and worked at an oilfield service company and what you say is 100% true. NM would shut you down indefinitely for a pottery chard, old bones or buried walls.

[@sadgirlhour]

I’m so glad you spoke on this case. I live a few hours away from abq and it’s always interested me. All you find on the case is news clippings. I’m so glad you covered it and I hope it continues to get coverage.❤️ *Side note: the way you describe the victims and their personalities is the best part of all your videos! I wish you nothing but the best & a successful career and life. You deserve it ❤️

[@amyrivers4093]

I'm catching up on Danielle's videos after recently finding her channel but I still wanted to comment. I believe that everyone is equal and every life matters. I feel disgusted that these beautiful women weren't given a chance to be looked for nevermind found because of how they were living their life at one point into time. These women are someone's daughter, Mum, Auntie, granddaughter etc and the family deserve to know where their loved one is. Anyone can get themselves into trouble and life can spiral. Everyone who says that won't happen to me, I'd never do that for money or it's their fault that they are addicted to drugs etc need to stop judging and focus on helping others who don't always have a soft place to fall. Thank you Danelle for telling the ladies stories now that they can't tell it themselves. I believe in heaven and that they appreciate you giving them their identity which was so horrifically taken back. You have a huge heart ❤ and you respect everyone involved, you are a special person who is down to earth and I stand with you and I'm so grateful to be a part of your family. Xx

[@Lady_Asylum]

I appreciate how much work you put into this video. I've always felt the same way about this case, that not enough people focus on the women who lost their lives it's always about the mystery of who committed the crimes, thank you for doing better than that 💗

[@oralearamsey7377]

Thank you for doing this story. I'm an Albuquerque native and have followed this story from the beginning. You found information that I had not heard before. We have had several turnovers of police chiefs since this all began and their focus has shifted to other issues. I love how you really dig into these cases. Thank you again.

[@mandeeleis]

That video recording hearing the tape and bag gave me chills..

[@DanelleHallan]

It is so difficult to hear knowing what he may have done to someone in the background.

[@allifairm]

Yeah creepy af

[@aliciaraeb]

I love Danelle more and more with each video I watch. If something unfortunate happened to myself or a loved one, I would trust only her 100000% to tell the story.

[@teresastclair1655]

As far as drugs go, I’m amazed how judgmental some are. As far as I’m concerned we are all one car wreck away from addiction!

[@margaretrodriguez4866]

I disagree. Due to a non-treatable condition I have, I sneezed one day and was in tremendous pain. I broke 7 ribs all in a line on my left side. I could hardly breathe. Because of this ridiculous "war on good people needing drugs" I was told to drink tea and relax. I had to go to a pain management doctor who would prescribe barely strong enough pain killers just so I could breathe because the pain was horrible. That was incredible unfair to me. Luckily, my ribs healed and I am better. But guess what??? I didn't become addicted. If you have an addictive personality, you'll end up addicted. That should not be held against me. Imagine excruciating pain every second of the day for months and being given basically no help. It's absurd. Drug users will get whatever they want, the rest of us, suffer.

[@melissamack333]

@@margaretrodriguez4866 that makes absolutely no sense. Are you mad you didn't get stronger drugs? Or are you insinuating you're better than others because you weren't given strong drugs and therefore didn't become addicted to them? Are you blaming drug addicts for their addictions?? Because that's what it sounds like. Addiction is a disease & anybody can become a victim to it whether you have an "addictive personality" or not. "The rest of us suffer" but drug addicts don't??? I sincerely hope you never have to deal with addiction because your ignorance about it must be bliss.

[@margaretrodriguez4866]

@@melissamack333 what I was stating was that no one should be forced to suffer immense pain because others cannot control themselves. Whether it's legally prescribed pain medicine or illegal heroin, drug addicts will get their fill meanwhile there are other people with real pain suffering because of others. To judge me being blissfully unaware of what addicts go through is your ignorance showing. I have lost siblings due to their drug addictions but I do not expect other people who truly need medication legally prescribed to them for honest pain to suffer. The entirety of the war on legally prescribed drugs to those who honestly need it is absurd. No one should be forced to live in excruciating pain for months. I gave my point of view based on my own personal experience but because I don't fall in line with your feelings, I'm attacked by you and considered ignorant.

[@melissamack333]

@@margaretrodriguez4866 no one should be forced to suffer immense pain REGARDLESS. It's not drug addicts' fault that you didn't get the treatment you needed, just like it's not their fault that they didn't get the treatment they needed. The system is failing you, not the addicts. I'm not "attacking" you but your comment WAS ignorant. "Drug addicts get their fill meanwhile there are people suffering with real pain." Addicts are people too. & they suffer with "real pain" too. They deserve help & healthcare too. The fact that you blame addiction on people "not being able to control themselves" tells me all I need to know about you. All I have to say is that mindset is IGNORANT

[@nunyabiz6532]

@@margaretrodriguez4866 so naive to think that your character make-up will make you somehow invulnerable to drug addiction. Certain pills will alter your neurochemical composition, regardless of how many rosaries you speak before or after swallowing

[@trismama1290]

Wow all of them looked so so similar. He definitely had a “type”

[@annabanana13505]

Loved your video as always. Being a lifelong New Mexican, I feel like this case definitely didn't get the attention it should've. Thank you for doing this case!

[@joleighbraman6287]

The algorithm just recently brought your videos to me and I have been binge watching for weeks while I’m at work. I just have to say that you seem like such an incredible person. I so respect and admire what you do, and the way you genuinely seem to care about these people regardless of their lifestyle choices. I know you don’t know me but I am proud of you and you should be proud of yourself 🖤 May these beautiful, worthy of much more than this life had to offer them women rest in peace. I hope the next life brings them nothing but love, happiness, and peace.

[@kirstycat]

thank you for covering these cases with such dignity. love the new work space, lighting and sound looks/sounds perfect. you’re very beautiful ❤️ hope you’re safe and well.

[@2radsav]

I actually live here.. the everyday crime is so out of hand at this point. It is so scary to leave my front door, as a female I now carry, I rarely leave my house because it’s so common to be preyed upon. (I saw another comment as well, and it’s so scary how relatable this is for the women that live/lived here..) Thank you for covering this!

[@dash-x]

My husband and I were living there when they found the mass grave too. When they started building Ventana Ranch they started finding remains as well. It was a perfect dumping ground before the houses went up. Other than towers, really there wasn’t much pedestrians.

[@leannefrost.4006]

I just moved from Albuquerque in April after living in Abq and surrounding areas after 12 years. It was just know as a female not to go somewhere alone. Always carry your side piece or some kind of protection. Even if you weren’t a sex worker. Abq is a sketchy area in general. Crime is high, drug use is high. I HATED going somewhere alone with my son. I almost always planned my trip with my best friend while my husband was in basic training. He joined the military to get us out of ABQ. 10/10 don’t recommend. And if you end up visiting for the international ballon fiesta STAY ALERT don’t be in public alone and don’t leave ANYTHING visible in your car, honestly I’d go as far as to lock your steering wheel with a bar lock just to deter criminals.

[@Michelle-by9fp]

My husband joined for us to leave ABQ too.. we left as far as CO and came back 🤣😓 He really wanted to join BCSO so here we are. Hopefully we can find a way out because it's only getting worse.

[@leannefrost.4006]

@@Michelle-by9fp my husband was actually in the process of joining BCSO when he finally got a recruiter call back from the Air Force. He then decided being a cop wasn’t worth the bull shit in this current climate and works on planes instead. Completely different from what I thought. I feel for you. I’ll make sure to pray for your family tonight!

[@mistet7938]

We just sold our things and moved to another state. What you wrote is not wrong at all.

[@mistymoon5678]

Thank you so much for covering this story and more so for giving these ladies identities beyond their line of work! I'm from Albuquerque, I've lived in or around the war zone most of my life. It's really sad and infuriating that sex workers are not at all on police radar unless they are being arrested. Unfortunately, this kind of thing hasn't only been going on between 2003-2006. Like I said, I'm from the war zone and I can remember stories of sex workers/addicts being buried out on the West Mesa since the late 80s early 90s. It's heartbreaking that these ladies are so looked down on or just plain looked over. I completely agree with you-no one should be judged by their work title and nobody should be deemed unworthy of basic human decency because of the work they do. Albuquerque is a rough place and most of us just do what we gotta do to survive. These ladies may have not made the best life choices but they were just trying to survive. Again, thank you for telling their backgrounds and I'm so glad to know they finally got the memorial finished. Honestly I never really believed it would happen.

[@janethall8444]

There is a really interesting older case of Ken McElroy from Skidmore Missouri.He was the town bully who was murdered and everyone stuck together so his death couldn't be solved.I'd love to see how you present this case.

[@LoveLunaFam]

There is a video series on KZbin somewhere about that case. I can’t remember the name of it but I’m sure if you Google Skidmore Missouri will find it

[@lynnwilliams8295]

Janet Hall I’m from Kansas City and have been fascinated by the case! Then several years later you have the women who was murdered for her unborn baby in Skidmore as well. Sounds like a strange town! I’ve been through there but we didn’t stop.

[@Jezabella2002]

Put it in her case suggestion form in the video description

[@Daaaanielle]

@@LoveLunaFam Buzzfeed Unsolved covered it. And it is quite an interesting case. Most of the times I want justice for the victims but with this one I was like... fuck that guy.

[@hotdogwater8520]

"No One Saw A Thing" Great series.

[@rachelw.876]

Thank you for always being a voice for the voiceless, especially those often ignored because of their skin color, profession, or background...all victims are human and still deserve closure and justice. You rock

[@boobookitty21]

The lighting looks incredible 👌 Great job & congrats on your new work space!!

[@Tabs530]

Just a thought... I imagine if Blea watched these women it’s likely he caught Lorenzo in the act or just noticed what was happening around him. If he realized the police weren’t doing anything to intervene maybe he saw this as an opportunity for him to get away with it as well.

[@AgataLib]

I haven't fully got into the video yet but I have to say that I love the new space, the lighting/colour grading, image quality - it all looks amazing!

[@ezekielfromme8876]

Thank you for covering this case I live in rio rancho and work in Albuquerque and it is so difficult to get accurate information about this case it always made me nervous not having good information about this and other cases I hope that the families of the victims can find peace and get answers

[@debbiemitchell9754]

I wish you would do a Q&A! I have noticed you no longer wear your wedding band and wonder why you moved into a house you had to build. I love 💕 you and your channel and for some reason you remind and look little like me in my young days. I’m 66 now and I guess I just worry about my favorite people to much. I’m retired now and have enjoyed your channel so much!🥰

[@elissabethbby92]

I’ve wondered the same, didn’t want to say anything and sound nosey though lol. I’m glad someone mentioned it though.

[@14days945]

She said she build her office away from her house so she can focus n not be disturbed by the kids something along those lines if I remember correctly

[@felicianafullmer8552]

She’s kept her personal life private for a reason, let’s all respect her wishes. So grateful for this channel & her hard work.

[@mikaelajm1]

Thankyou Danelle- the way you tell these cases, it's just very dignified and carefully retold.. thank you

[@miranda266]

The way you stand for SW'ers and their right has always been so important to me. I adore you for that.

[@emilybear4832]

You were the first True Crime influencer I ever watched and are still one of my favorites because you take time to make sure the victims stories are told factually and you seem to make these videos for the right reasons!!! Thank you for everything you do for us 💕

[@00tonytone]

Mad mad props to detective ida Lopez . May God bless her to the fullest. She threw down. Giving these skeletal remains a face and a name.

[@GenXfrom75]

Hey! That's a nice, versatile space! You can do so much there, for holidays and whatnot. I like it! Great case to cover, too.

[@lannamama2034]

Ida Lopez gave many victims a voice that was needed. She spent years trying to figure this case out and attempt to stop more murders from happening. Shes a true warrior for victims and their families.

[@brookem2460]

I grew up walking our family dogs on the west Mesa until they started developing the Mesa. It’s still sad this hasn’t been solved. I have to add it’s not odd here for people to know one another, especially those in that lifestyle. Edit- there used to be a plant nursery called Rowland’s that I think closed around that time, so maybe that’s the one he frequented but stopped going to.

[@antheacole4574]

Brooke Parsons OMG that’s pretty spooky

[@gyssellarosales7897]

I haven’t came across someone more dedicated to true crime videos as you so it bothers me that you aren’t as big as other true crime creators that barely post and usually 30 minute videos and leave out a lot of detail, I admire you ! ❤️❤️❤️

[@oceanbreeze3215]

The enemy of my enemy is my friend. A pimp killing a killer? I’m good with it.

[@genevievebeaulieu7912]

I had to investigate this further, and he was not brought up on any charges for Montoyas death. The cops considered Williams to be defending her. 👍

[@crichards3533]

Absolutely love your channel. Only been two weeks watching you and I’m hooked. Your passion to put these people’s stories out to us shines through, so respectfully done with compassion. Thank you keep up the great work. X

[@emmadurning1667]

Well I WAS just about to go to bed..

[@brianneseabloom2301]

Same

[@MONIMONKS]

You did an awesome job on this video! I never heard of this case before. I’m glad you’re bringing attention to these poor women, girls, and fetus. They all deserve Justice!

[@CarolineMitchell]

When you have to explain to your husband that you can't come to bed as a Danelle Hallan video has just come on. 😅 (Yes, I'm in the UK)

[@deborahybarra8466]

Lol I totally get that! 🤭

[@Tiger89Lilly]

@@deborahybarra8466 ha me too I'm in the Midlands

[@user-de1fk9yx9k]

So well done. You put so much work into this. Thank you for sharing the victims stories. You are such a respectful and well spoken woman.

[@paigefields5457]

I love when I can't find anything and you upload!!! You're seriously the best 💜 you posted 9 minutes ago and I just happened to want something to keep me occupied and BAM here you come to save the day!!!

[@lisaruzicka8345]

Thanks so much for the video. I appreciate your compassion and empathy for the victims. As a society, we need to care for everyone. Take Care.