The Western Conference Playoff Battle Royale With Tim Legler. Plus, Jaime Jaquez Jr.

We have a packed episode on this week’s ‘Old Man and The Three!’ JJ and Tommy open the show asking and answering some questions they have about possible play-in teams. Then, ESPN’s Tim Legler joins JJ to take a deep look at the Western Conference playoff picture, including if they think the OKC Thunder will be affected by their lack of playoff experience, why the New Orleans Pelicans might be a sleeping giant, if the Los Angeles Clippers can return to their top form, and what to expect from the Sacramento Kings. Then, Miami Heat standout rookie Jaime Jaquez Jr. joins share what his first NBA season has been like, his experience playing four years in college at UCLA, what he’s learned in the NBA, and much more. Jaime also sticks around for a draft of fictional movie villains. Let’s go!
0:00 Intro
3:38 Playoff implications
13:34 Tim Legler
01:14:55 Jaime Jaquez Jr.
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[@dechlankuipers4524]

So grateful that in the last few years the best basketball minds began using their own platforms to talk ball, rather than ESPN being the only option.

[@thewristinjury]

Grateful? Lol

[@dechlankuipers4524]

Correct. Grateful: feeling or showing an appreciation of kindness; thankful. "I'm very grateful to you for all your help" Please go to school

[@mylesbartunek5920]

Same hear it's nice hearing it from the source 🙌

[@dearshomy]

Yes. Its the best thing that has happened to the game.

[@Weebei]

On ESPN: 4 hr discussion of how the Lakers should be title favorites

[@livelifestrong6300]

I don’t care what anyone says, having Legs on the show will never get old. Two experienced hoop heads with good chemistry choppin’ it up, I’m all for it

[@ptyten9718]

Bro we all love Legler, he's unanimously considered a top two analyst in basketball.

[@luccadattilo1310]

And then when Richard Jefferson jumps in. It’s like the holy trinity.

[@user-hu2ed8oe8m]

He has like a daily pod too. I enjoy that one too

[@onyroo]

Who’s saying different?

[@EveningElephant]

@@user-hu2ed8oe8mwhat is Tim’s daily show called?

[@harisselmanovic1030]

JJ and Legs - name a more iconic duo when it comes to talking hoops. No need to fight with corporate BS and push sensational headlines - the modern media gave these guys the opportunity to do their own thing! KZbin was always the place for actual basketball knowledge to be acquired, thanks for all those who made it that way for the game we love 🏀

[@Aschwarz93]

Legler always on his game man, probably my favorite combo right here.

[@TheDanSebastian]

Agree 100% Waiting for a trio with Bron… imagine that?!

[@gage8391]

Bruh what?! Shaq and Kobe? Shaq and Penny? Shaq and Dwade? Steph and Klay?! Bird Mchale? MJ and Pippen? SMH

[@grzegorzszewczak2808]

I'm so glad JJ didn't take the coaching job. He's at the right place.

[@b3rni3mac2]

Imagine him on the Celtics though

[@SammySprinklers69]

​@@b3rni3mac2 I wonder if they could beat a play in team on their home court of a game 7🤔

[@jakeb7754]

Nearly two hours of Hoops talk?!!! That is my Friday plans sorted 🔥

[@pangoolal7512]

Friday night chill pod with JJ and Kreuger

[@felipevisbal1414]

I’ll NEVER get tired of JJ and Legs talking basketball 🔥

[@nickshanahan2490]

Leg’s analysis of SGA’s unique play style made me think of Shaun Livingston when he was a part of the GSW dynasty teams. SGA is just the ultimate superstar version of that type of player lol

[@OnTheButton_]

No one beats JJ & Legs

[@zayzaydamack]

Bron and JJ

[@elidamsft]

@@zayzaydamacknah legs speaks better den lebron but maybe over time

[@Musso88]

Hahaha Lebron is horrible compared to these 2. He’s simply not smart enough.

[@Thrashippie]

@@Musso88send your past comments you a bron hater bro

[@pangoolal7512]

JJ + Krueger = best duo

[@onyroo]

JJ’s brand of media is just smart basketball.

[@shiningwizard202]

I know that as a Celtics fan, I’m supposed to hate every Miami player 😂 But I love Jaime’s game. Him and Derrick Lively are in this position where they’re playing elite level ball for their age but not getting the proper recognition because they got drafted at the same time as those two 8 foot aliens.

[@sp4ceghstred]

Too factual

[@chrismiller1183]

Sure would be rough living in Miami, being a millionaire and showing up onTV every other night...right? Could be distracting. Love Jaime's mature offensive game...just what Miami needed after losing Matt Strus.

[@jacksonkeogh3320]

The point about Shai operating in the middle of the floor is gold - I couldn't quite place what made him so good and that's a huge factor

[@Someaddress555s]

That skill is underrated.

[@M.L.official]

How do you feel about okc against teams like Phoenix or LA?

[@chrismiller1183]

​@@M.L.official I hope OKC figures it out quick...I think they will. LA with LeBron and Anthony could pose some real problems. Phoenix is all finesse and no 'D'...right?

[@M.L.official]

@@chrismiller1183 they have defense but admittedly it isn't great. However you are talking about KD and Booker in the playoffs who will turn it up. They have even more offensive ability this year than last year, and they have nurkic who is a big boost defensively. I'm a Denver fan and Im nervous about Phoenix in the first round. I think OKC is in for a tough series if they draw them man

[@chrismiller1183]

@@M.L.official It could be a tough series, but what are you hoping for...4-0, 4-1? As a Nugget fan, your WORRY FACTOR should be minimal. Barring major injury they are primed for another run to The Finals.

[@meljay337]

The west playoffs definitely gonna be a entertaining watch even the first round matchups

[@Yallowbanana]

Love legs never stop bringing him on

[@pangoolal7512]

Legs will keep it comin just like Freddy Kreuger, don't you worry

[@chrismiller1183]

Lose the 'Freddy Krueger'...really distracting in a cringe way.

[@GlueGuy20]

I knew it, Jaime Jaquez Jr. really moves like Kobe tho with his fadeaway jumpers. Not surprised he's the one he patterned his game to. Surprised they didn't ask what shampoo he uses tho lol

[@chrismiller1183]

Moves like Kobe...really? I don't like Jaime THAT MUCH.

[@GlueGuy20]

@@chrismiller1183 i don't like him jackass. I can just read moves. Coz I ACTUALLY PLAY. Not someone who's just loud on the internet but don't hoop. 🤦

[@GlueGuy20]

​@@chrismiller1183man you gotta love social media. You can just talk and talk about basketball, without even playing 😅😂😂

[@izzyh5952]

Podcast with LeBron?!?! Just a testament to how far you all have come - congrats guys, can't wait to listen 🌟

[@lebronjamesharden3958]

Thank you JJ! You da real MVP!

[@spensbat]

Could listen to these dudes talk all damn day.

[@roarmalf]

Absolutely loved the first episode of Mind the Game. Excellent podcast, can't wait for more episodes.

[@mattreynolds612]

Orlando: Franz Wagner is THE most overlooked man in the Association. Dude is a walking bucket. Not a Magic fan, but Dude is awesome!!!

[@AveChristusRex789]

The western conference playoffs (and play-in) is going to be insane! Can’t wait to see what JJ will have to say

[@sohumparanjpe2639]

Learn so much when these two have a conversation in this vein.

[@keith.loves.lasagna]

The Joker is actually a hero? That's a wild take lol

[@R3Y1023]

Mavs coming for that 4th seed baby 🔥

[@fingfangfoom2399]

They coming for the ring

[@boscopirie8646]

Pels got that bish on lock😈

[@forrestfolk7141]

I could listen to these two talk basketball for hours

[@pangoolal7512]

Fr it's like, You got JJ? Yeah. Got Krueger? Yeah. Well then you've got a great pod

[@AidanXavier988]

Woah, Jaime had some extensive, insightful answers to JJ! Instant fan

[@PittsburgStateGorilla]

Jack Goehlke is what I imagine Legler was like in college.

[@yusufabdulhakeem5110]

Playoffs soon Babyyyy

[@dominichahn169]

So excited. West playoffs gonna be especially dope.

[@gnomechomsky2524]

@@dominichahn169even the play in teams are legit and can’t be discounted. It’s gonna be crazy

[@abdinho]

@@dominichahn169could potentially see Celtics heat round 1 plus bucks sixers with maybe embiid back as well

[@maxdaley7939]

triple J shouting out Feyd Rautha and JJ being a huge Dune fan?? Best episode ever!

[@MrHenryBaird]

Tim Legler is my favourite analyst I never get bored when he talks about the NBA tells it how it is

[@prtk_m]

JJ is the future head of Basketball Media

[@bengabriels6219]

Thanks JJ and Legz. Good stuff.

[@rg3ibanez]

Some love for the much ignored Orlando Magic, thank you!

[@kingdeedee]

If the Heat and Celtics meet in the playoffs, JJ will now be wearing half of a Jaime jersey and half of a Derrick White jersey

[@gabrielking2293]

I love these two talking basketball

[@federicothompson2299]

I don’t think people realize how great of a basketball ambassador JJ is. As far as educating fans/the public on the nuances of basketball he’s the most influential basketball personality since John Wooden. Great coaches like coach K and Bobby Knight were/are extremely knowledgeable but never utilized the platform of social media like JJ.

[@Arkayzy]

I just want to say I really appreciate this show existing. Also I love how committed Legs is going into the Suns 😂

[@curtthechameleon]

I love Legler. Thanks JJ.

[@brennanesposito827]

Gr8 pod 🙌 thank you

[@Ready4Wednesday]

Love this duo

[@Sbock86]

Legler is one of the best

[@FallUpSlowly]

20:43 bro us Magic fans know, Suggs got THAT DAWG in him and it’s been a pleasure to watch him all year

[@tuckerfredock6390]

Put Legs on Mind The Game with Bron & JJ

[@Ryanritt13]

Love that Garden City Golf piece

[@Papa_Static]

I didn't come into the year thinking the Warriors might not Even make the play in, but the 11th seed Rockets are going crazy right now. Gonna be an interesting final stretch

[@CasualGamer51]

2 hours lets gooo!!

[@Stumpsville]

"A guy slips up snd and gets Hurt" Ingram went down last night 😭

[@Fisherdanpro23]

Dude already 285k subscribers on the new podcast

[@machomeech]

Ingram getting hurt could put a huge downer on the Pel's finish

[@maxwellhagen4258]

did jj just say kings?! im even more excited for the episode now 😁😁

[@user-ml4ky7px8g]

Yoo where tf tommy been at he came back with a whole new swagg 😂😂

[@keith.loves.lasagna]

All great picks for the draft. The 🦁 and 🍭 picks surprised me in a good way, definitely top tier. Some that I thought: Hans from Inglorious Basterds. Lestat from Interview with a Vampire. John Doe from Se7en.

[@tybeerius4449]

1:12:27 legler gonna remember that suns game forever😂

[@sirdromos2769]

Mavs are on fire

[@vuketheduke3628]

I would love to see JJ Reddick interview Robert Horry and hear the horrys journey

[@Oregon_fan]

Top of mind: You guys are the best. Idk if we’ll get to see Denver vs Boston but they seem to be miles above the rest of the league. Denver has a comparatively easy schedule for the next 11 games while OKC has a brutal road trip. If OKC finishes with the #1, SGA will be the legit league MVP, but I expect the Nuggets to finish first in the west. They struggled against both OKC and MIN this season, but the loss of KAT is big. Not sure how he comes back.

[@Papa_Static]

One thing that really scares me as a Celtics fan is that the Knicks and Joel Embiid (if he's back) are coming into the playoffs well rested while our guys have played pretty much the whole year.

[@thetrib1]

This is crack. I NEED it

[@Lilrizzy4real1]

Yeah JJ!

[@RelMyers]

JJ almost lost his marbles when Jaime said Interstellar is his favorite movie of all time. LOL!!

[@austinroccaro2219]

Scar from the lion king was a good one😂

[@aqwicyweerwqxifntbtozianqyxir7]

we need a legs podcast.

[@wouterjanse4012]

The two best basketbal analysts right now💯

[@alex24mamba]

Tim is forsure. If you like lebron like Jesus, then jjs your guy 😂

[@Noodlezoop]

We need a retired official v coach podcast. That would bring me so much joy. Between that and these great analytical player pods, that is the only thing the space needs to be complete.

[@brandonpetersen9840]

Fr when I saw he was talking with Legs some more I was hoping it be 2 hours! 🤣

[@Crown_VIII]

The Tim Legler Show just needs to be a thing

[@nicksmailer8498]

First interview I’ve heard with Jaquez. Very well spoken for a roomie

[@rome8180]

I really don't think Miami is in the same stratosphere as last year. Last year they went 12-12 against teams with a top 10 net rating, This year they are 4-18, and that's WITH the win that they just got against the Cavs. I get that everyone wants to throw the stats out the window with Miami, but I happen to think performance against the best teams is pretty important.

[@zacharylustberg4589]

Wow JJ huge news on the Lebron collab, congrats you don’t miss!!!

[@Someaddress555s]

Should be a good playoff race in the west.

[@albus6130]

The ad frequency on these videos is a bit outrageous felt like every 5 minutes

[@chrismiller1183]

Eat the fish...spit out the bones.

[@dontbeanidiotyoucancook7662]

This used to be a podcast. A proper MIAMI HEAT podcast. The jaquez segment is a sign of healing, the world rejoices ✊🥲

[@user-ls3db6pz4w]

The fact that the 76ers had Isaiah Joe and let him go for nothing still hurts me plenty

[@mavericks2k811]

It's interesting how much of a difference j williams and chet holmgren's presence has made on this thunder team while SGA's stats have remained the same

[@solliskuxxswag]

Tommy's top 2 picks 🔥

[@breezyk724]

Late to comment but have to leave it anyway; I fuckin KNEW JJ was going to pick some abstract villain like time or space 😂😂

[@dprestons0318]

Hey Tim, what do you think about the Phoenix Suns?

[@lapersone5116]

Love you with Legler. Yall should get Van Pelt on some time, postgame style but yall 3 the whole time. Maybe Van Gundy and the guy from Road Trippin hehe would be fire. We already know it works great with Van Pelt.

[@cjpeach11]

Calm down on the Thunder. They are this years OG Thunder-Kings-Memphis etc. Every year the west has one young team that pulls regular season wins running and gunning, then they collapse comes playoffs.

[@chrismiller1183]

OKC is MUCH MORE than runners and gunners... underestimate them at your own peril.

[@chrismiller1183]

@@thetruthofChristwillneverbesto At 65, I need a rude awakening at times...thanks.

[@Ma_1125]

JJ almost choosing time as his top 5 villains was crazy 😅

[@favritzapp]

Done with the 90s isn't picking and choosing I've mostly just seen games running from the start #wedonewiththe90s

[@user-kt9sq4zk1w]

** Villain draft spoil ** How did not one of them pick freaking Sauron seriously ?!

[@ejkboxing]

Jaime crushed his draft. Comedy villains/antagonists should be sports related. Uncle Rico from Napoleon Dynamite is #1.

[@lonewolfnh89]

The villian draft was really good

[@funky_monk_2420]

Orlando mentioned

[@PyrexWipper_]

Love the Pels , knicks of the west vibes

[@L4-295]

Legs mad about the suns like he bet on that game lol

[@thomascsullivan2907]

top tier hair

[@griffinracey998]

Heat lifer JJ

[@MrOctober44]

I can only roll my eyes in regards to what they said about The Kings. No one gave them any credit last year. When the media did talk about them, it was when is the other shoe going to drop, is this team for real. No one was picking them to beat the Warriors.

[@brandonsleep9156]

It’s SHOOTER not scooter lol

[@corazonhermosa]

They were lit 🔥 lit 🔥 😂😂

[@2uzu]

I’m slightly confused because Indy was in 6th when this was recorded

[@brockatus8880]

I wonder the history surrounding a team like OKC that shoots that well across the roster and rebounds that poorly… in the playoffs. They feel really unique!

[@jxizgod]

Just add RJ and this is a trifecta

[@kohta20]

Mavericks are going to shoot up into the 5th or even 4th seed! 2nd easiest schedule left and only 3 games behind the 4th!

[@AveChristusRex789]

Not sure about the 4th seed, but I am feeling good about the 5th seed. Ingram is also injured, it sucks for the player and I would never wish for a player’s injury, but that is objectively in favour for the Mavericks

[@kohta20]

its based on their schedule plus how the clippers have been playing! They can make up 3 games with 12 left! @@AveChristusRex789

[@albus6130]

Legs is always great

[@br548]

LMAO at Tim saying Phoenix is dead to him, and "I can't possibly eviscerate them enough."

[@user-hu2ed8oe8m]

Yall needa pull up to leg’s pod too! They do this, but almost everyday 😂

[@hixta]

This a real basketball talk show. Enough of the headline seeking "analysts" JJ da man!

[@chrismiller1183]

Caffeine fueled, narrative fed commentators don't cut it! Real hoops fans want insight on THE GAMES...not the latest BS or front office controversies. Can't stand the 'proposed trade' (fantasy) trade garbage. The gossip and innuendo of that BS isn't constructive. It stirs public sentiment in a very negative direction. It gets so amped on social media.

[@Solarsystem50]

A "Heat guy" is vampire... always hanging there, lurking in the shadows, waiting to strike when nobody is expecting it. Sort of Dan Majerle, Shane Battier, P.J. Brown