The Who-Cry if you want

Performance from the 1982 Toronto "Farewell" show. Not available on the vhs release

[@georgeprice4212]

I saw this when aired, and don’t ever recall this song being aired.

[@SteveRes]

I agree...Entwistle wrote two stonewall classics for Its Hard, "Dangerous" & "Its Your Turn"... underrated album

[@truedude30]

5:23 to 5:45. Those 22 seconds of Pete playing guitar is how I live my life. Thank you!

[@redhed6971]

It's Hard was very underrated by the critics. I think it was one of their finest albums.

[@learnthroughmusicandlyrics6361]

Me too! Although Parke Puterbaugh gave It's Hard a five-star review in Rolling Stone upon the album's release: www.rollingstone.com/music/music-album-reviews/its-hard-185952/

[@johnscarpino6169]

Agree

[@laurenshare3726]

"Anyone can do anything if they hold the right card, I'm thinking about my wife, I'm thinking I'm very, very hard."

[@paulcadogan7033]

Virtuoso performance Roger! Noone else could do it including Pete.

[@charlesx6569]

I still believe that if they'd released "Cry If You Want" as the single off of the last album rather than "Athena" the album would have had a much better reception. "Cry If You Want" is a Who song, sitting comfortably next to anything next to Who's Next or Quadrophenia. "Athena" is a song you'd find on a Townshend solo album that didn't fit The Who's audience, then or now.

[@jimmyromano249]

Too bad you weren't there to argue this to Pete back in 82.

[@stuarthaber1037]

I saw them do Cry in 1982 and again in Leeds on the 50th anniversary tour. I like much more than Eminence Front.

[@learnthroughmusicandlyrics6361]

Roger Daltrey agrees with you: thewho.net/discography/songs/CryIfYouWant.html

[@unclefredster5636]

Interesting observation Charles, never thought of it in those terms but I would have to agree w you. Athena just seemed misplaced in the Who context.

[@Rudeman61]

Drumming this song is an excellent way to keep your chops up.

[@Perpetualmusik]

A Townsend classic.

[@Perpetualmusik]

Went to this concert 2 nights before these 2 shows. I was 12.

[@iamozzie]

They did the full version of this song at Live At Leeds 2, and it was the highlight of the show IMO. They continued to mix in the CIYW rap into the middle of MG throughout the 2006/07 tour, but only did the full version at a couple of shows. The Wholigans' version is quite amazing, shame they don't do it any longer.

[@jeffreymiddleton4063]

This song smokes goats in plus excellente

[@TheWholigans]

That's the best song off the album imo. I'm in a Who tribute band and we did CIYW and It's Hard & Dangerous & Athena from that album. In 82-86ish when we played 'Cry If you want ' the audience never really quite 'got it' which was a shame as we really liked it. You can see our version on our yotube channel.

[@malcolmbenson6368]

such a brilliant song , the vocal and guitar, anger and spite, great .

[@user-zu3ju8xm9m]

An underrated song off an underrated album.

[@glechowski]

Someone should take this video and drop in the audio from the 1997 re-release of IT'S HARD....Pete's guitar playing is fantastic.

[@psychodelicrock12]

I agree

[@johnsignorelli9356]

This is actually an early Who rap song. Love Pete's scorching guitar. Seen them 6 times in concert, twice with Keith Moon.

[@helixjc]

Wow, Roger Daltrey, from Mod to parachute pants! This is one of the best songs from "Its Hard", itsa tough song..

[@BluesLicks101]

I cannot imagine "You Better You Bet", "Eminence Front", "The Quiet One"; "Another Tricky Day"; "Athena"; "Its Hard"; "A Man Is A Man"; and perhap the most underrated song in The Who history: "Cry If You Want" WITHOUT Kenny Jones!

[@terrywyatt1836]

I saw them play this in 2006 & Zak played it different which I initially preferred but when I went back to the original I realised it was brilliant the way it was. It made me revisit the It's Hard album and discover I actually love the album.

[@psychodelicrock12]

I wish Kenny Jones was still with The Who. He’s an excellent drummer.

[@mygirlpiper]

Yeah it's a shame a lot of these "82" shows post production remix of the sound drowns out Petes guitar, the bass dominates. Anybody who saw live on the "82" tour knows that Townsend's power chords just rocked the stadiums out, he played fantastic.

[@davidkieltyka9]

Yep, horrible mix here. IMO one of Pete's finest '82 moments too. At least the remastered It's Hard album does a much better job with the same performance (bonus track). I recorded this show live off the radio and watched it too on cable. 1st On Demand broadcast I remember seeing. I no longer have the recording but I remember the guitar being louder in the mix than it is here. Saw the band at the Pontiac Silverdome too (as well as in '75). Terrible acoustics both times. At the '82 show I remember Pete shaking his head and saying after the first few songs, "This place was never meant for music." :) Fortunately I also saw 'em at the Masonic Temple in Detroit in '79. Small venue, great sound and performance!

[@catherinefitzpatrick9144]

David Kieltyka Hey, David! I saw those exact same shows; and I agree. But, as a 15 girl 'in love' with The Who from first listen

[@Madscheva97531]

I'm getting goose bumps because I WAS THERE!

[@guitarisdead1642]

There's a touch more clarity at the Orlando show, but yes, him adding those Mesa cabinets and whatever speakers were in them (Altecs?) took his sound to a much deeper, broader spectrum. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oIernYGuqNp1pas

[@psychodelicrock12]

20 years ago I bought the remastered edition of It’s Hard and this song sounds a whole lot better. Plus I remember when I first played The Who Rocks America VHS on a mono player Pete’s guitar was faded out. But when I got a stereo, VCR hooked up to my receiver, then that concert sounded so much better.

[@johndannenbrink7590]

Though Pete’s guitar at the end gets lost in the mix let’s give a massive “hip, hip, hooray!” for finally getting John NOT marginalized in live Who videos which is a perennial torture for any true Who fan who waits in vain to see The Ox on stage only to be disappointed by a split second here or there through the ages. Criminal stupidity. John cold as ice in the corner is key to the Whocano’s unrivaled live devastation.

[@rcbeamer]

Could someone fire up their time machine, go back to the 4:50 mark and turn Pete's guitar and amp up to 11?

[@thelastrebelshow1627]

I was thinking the same thing, turn it up Pete! 🤘🔥🤘

[@tommyboy8616]

@@thelastrebelshow1627 Great riffs. Pete at his best.

[@georgeprice7922]

I don't even remember this being in the BROADCAST version! And I watched it when first broadcast!

[@johngrow]

I remember listening to this on the radio on December 17, 1982, wishing I could have been at that show. WBCN was broadcasting the concert and the reception was shitty in New Hampshire.

[@ron9783]

move south, like florida

[@lizcenterfield1963]

+John Grow Hey don't I know you from Wayne Green?

[@merseywhogirl]

Yeah. Naked Eye totally rocked that night!! this one too....Pete's Drowned and John's the Quiet One too - man, john and pete were in the zone in that song, that night!!!

[@lucianobertelle3846]

amazing words

[@jage71]

That's awesome. Thanks!!! Always wished I could see the full concert. As a musician, this vhs was pretty much the most important thing that got me going as a kid. Unfortunately, the dvd release doesn't include any more than the original.

[@speedbird49]

I agree that Naked Eye and CIYW were right on that night. But your dead on that Drowned and The Quiet One were the best performances of the evening. I though Pete and John did a blistering rendition of the Quiet One, and Pete tore Drowned apart in typical Townshend fashion. I have those two songs on disc because I enjoy them so much. Good ear girl.

[@stevedrums1675]

I have the VHS recording and have never seen this. thanks for the post.

[@Longetty]

never put it together until now that John's Ginger hair color is a tribute to Keith and His First Meeting/ Appearance in April 1964,Where he Was Apparently " Ginger Head To Toe"

[@tommyboy8616]

WTF? The man is on fire.

[@johnscarpino6169]

Great tune

[@TheWholigans]

My band THE WHOLIGANS covered this in the 80's and not many people liked it -but me-, but that's all that f*n matters really. Good F*n song, so buggar off ya wanka's that don't like it....I DO :p We have a version on our youtubechannel if you want to see it, just click on 'The Wholigans' and search 'play all' Pete kicks serious butt on this song, and apart from 'Naked Eye' ....CIYW was the best song of that night imo. Barry

[@i-a-g-r-e-e-----f-----jo--b]

I really liked this song and Eminence Front back in the day, happy they are still doing it. I was bummed when they broke up and slowly they faded away, to be replaced with real life I guess (chasing skirts). Great music for the sex starved teenage man/boy back then though!

[@clashwho]

I think the audio is just the left channel. Pete's guitar should be much louder than that.

[@ThemanfromZambodia]

Entwistle`s estate sold a master copy of the audio from this show. It was recorded from Entwistles separate mixing board. `wonder if that might explain the audio imbalance.

[@guyo7351]

I'd rewind the tape or turn it over after the first song on the A side to hear this again,

[@ChimpFromSpace]

The guitar mix sounds like Pete is playing in some tunnel 3 miles away from the stage.

[@gossard56]

too bad the audio on Pete's guitar is all but gone on this version cause he absolutely nailed the ending jam. gotta go with the shea stadium version from 82 as the best.

[@TheSanityInspector]

@clashwho No, I listened to this live on the radio at the time. For some reason, Pete's Telecaster really was mixed that faint and tinny. All I could hear were the other three. Pete should have brought back the Les Pauls for this tour and cranked 'em up to 11.

[@aluminumininum]

Yeah the studio version doesn't do this song justice. Never would have pegged it as my favorite song off the album without hearing/watching these live recordings that turn it into a 7 minute jam. And I agree with others here the Shea stadium recording seems the best overall.

[@whonut]

Those songs you mention were not broadcast on TV, which is a shame. I have the same boot and it's spoilt by the low quality of the footage of these songs.

[@BBQFanNo1]

One of their few better songs in their post Keith Moon death era.

[@RubHerSoul1]

@TheWholigans Well if i was there and heard you or any band play this song, I'd be right up there with my fist held high. This was one of the 3 best songs on their last lp. People are fucked! They only like what they are familiar with. It's a wonder people like anything at all when they first hear or see something.

[@fucheduck]

@cholulasaucehot I did, it was not to howl at the moon at, in fact, if you do, your mad. Bassmen are wise!

[@MokoMikoMako]

@BBQFanNo1 What about Eminence Front, or Another Tricky Day, or The Quiet One?

[@chinolatino38]

i wonder if this footage will be on their new dvd box set

[@ryankoke]

I was at this show. Is the full concert available online somewhere?

[@Raelspark]

Chords are basically A, D, G. Just like in Magic Bus. But Daltrey has to sing way too many words. It's like a big bloody speech with a march beat behind it. Still a good song.

[@Exilemainstreet]

Is that why the bass was fucked up on I Can See For Miles?

[@coreymafia]

best of the later who stuff rogers kinda rappin lol

[@curtmeanor4979]

BA\ad recording. Can't here Pete's guitar.

[@lizcenterfield1963]

Love it - they should have ended the show with this one.

[@suraboyo]

See you in Belfast on the 12th Sept. 09 at the Spring and Airbrake. GS

[@terencedollard]

Quid Pro Quo...Pete has been burying John in the mix for years. Compare the reissue albums to the original and you'll hear what I mean. And the Rhino Tommy/Quad box set was just the worst. Thank God someone else did the audio for Amazing Journey.

[@sludge4125]

Was pete’s guitar turned off? Pathetic mix.

[@goesjem]

Pete's guitar is far too quiet!!!! As much as I respect Kenny, I feel he is a little lazy on this! Having said that, he knows how to hold it all down and keep it together. Just a bit boring, that's all.

[@Kate31415]

Lyrically, one of the best songs ever written. Drums sound like garbage in any Who version tho. Which is a shame