The Witcher 3 - Gaunter O'Dimm Is The Devil

[@Manoto17]

That bastard was scarier then the wild hunt and the crones combined.

[@JohnSmith-vw5fd]

Too bad his riddles are weak, geralt wouldn't have easily banished him.

[@Subject75]

Detlaff included

[@sebastianyu5383]

John Smith that was deliberate. He didn’t want Geralt’s soul. Gaunter seeks out the evil

[@prideofasia99]

The Wild Hunt, The Crones, the Unseen Elder AND Dettlaff combined

[@adamfowler5475]

@@JohnSmith-vw5fd yeah, lol literally first thought at the end was "mirror" or "reflection". The entire dlc hints those words

[@Corristo89]

47:56 The brown pants factor just went through the roof. Just the way he instantly becomes threatening by changing his tone and the look on his face. I think not even Geralt would be willing to go toe to toe with him and he doesn't really defeat him in the end. All he does is ward him off. Gaunter O'Dimm is most likely THE BEST VILLAIN out there, mainly because he's not a villain per se. Geralt could've let sleeping dogs lie, done his job and been on his way. O'Dimm holds up his end of the deal and both are on their separate ways again.

[@nacaurel]

Corristo89 He’s looking at you at that scene. He’s not looking at Geralt when he’s saying “No, Geralt you don’t”. He’s looking at you, the player. I noticed that because the seconds he’s looking at you at that time is longer.

[@Aggron300]

After this O'Dimm keeps a close eye on Geralt. He can be seen several times as background characters as you play thru Hearts of Stone.

[@Spacecookie-]

In many mythologies throughout time there has always been a trickster type figure as part of a pantheon. Neither good nor evil, he just tests people playing tricks on them that usually teach something, or takes their life/something most precious to them when they fail. Whether that's their soul, all of their riches, their prideful ability to sing, someone most dear to them or whatever they value most. Gaunter is just another one of those figures, like Loki, Lucifer, Prometheus or any other. He's the one who tricks gods into drinking oceans, or loosing a wrestling match against time. He's sort of the balancing force. A leveller of all things, and only the cleverest/most sly/bravest usually win against him, if at all.

[@Chazza_1201]

Notice when he says “you do wish to disembark, do you not?”, his eyes shine like a fae trickster , getting someone into a contract without them knowing but he preferred to do it properly with Geralt by asking

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

It's awesome to remember this character. The game literally bait us to believe he is the classic depiction of a djinn/genie. The 3 wishes, how the story kicks off with a Middle East prince and etc.. Also, the last wish is very know among Witcher fans, so I assumed this... Creature was a djinn at first, powerful djinn. But no, this is something else, a being far above a insignificant djinn, this shit is really dangerous lol the evil that cannot be explanained is something terrifying, we can relate the evil incarnate to any kind of reality, our own and other stories. It's a entity, an idea, the most dangerous thing imaginable. And geralt had the guts to deal with such a being. It is a fanfic at the end of the day, the greatest fanfic ever made, but the actual character of geralt would NEVER help Olgierd at the end. Risking his life for a nobody, dealing with something he can't comprehend? Hell no, geralt has a sense of preservation like any sane individual... But the gameplay dictates that we can have choices. I believe book geralt would simply fulfill his end of the bargain, then get the fuck away lol he would not ask about Ciri or anything else, it's not wise to create any kind of debt or sympathy with the devil, no freaking way

[@theSyndicatification]

6:36 noise of extreme turmoil in the water below like an object is acending from the depths of the ocean at great speed. Seconds later O'Dimm is on the boat

[@cl8804]

Actually, that's thunder and (wood) creaking, you fucknugget.

[@mrDeathtrooper]

I could never choose to help Olgierd at the end I’m too scared to cross Gaunter O’ Dimm

[@Gaunter_ODimm]

Wise decision trust me.

[@shawnam1645]

When he told me to take allot of coin to the auction house because I might need it, i took that as a hint to buy everything and got the shopaholic achievement, and the viper set.😅 … thanks Dim. 🤣🤣

[@misterfastzeratul]

In South american countries there are stories of humans facing a mysterious and charming man, making deals and being put to the test. In my country this mysterious figure has been appointed to be the devil, he has challenged people in artistic and intellectual competence; and has been also made responsible of moving giant rocks of the size of cathedrals in order to built roads through the mountains. Its interesting how he seems to have similar roles in far away places like Poland.

[@ricktyman4709]

Noticed a few things: - Every time Gaunter appears near other people, someone mentions the "devil" in conversation before or after his appearance. - Gaunter appears on the boat in the intro and looks at the ladle admiringly, only to stab someone with a ladle at the bar. - Pebbles the cat makes a cameo walking in front of the burning house. - At the burning house in the beginning, the guy cries out for God to help him. Moments later Gaunter appears - not because he's god, but because he's the devil rejoicing that god never came. - When Gaunter is talking to Geralt at the crossroads in the beginning, he says a lot of things that sounds like metaphors - but become actual truths later on. He says Olgreid has a heart of stone and makes it seem like he's cold hearted, but it's Gaunter's fault. Gaunter says he doesn't need muscle, he needs an intelligent soul (emphasis on soul)

[@Bloodletter8]

0:52 Why did you have to take a whiff of that, Geralt? YOU ALREADY KNEW WHAT IT WAS JEEZ

[@Kachompsky]

49:23 O'Dimm turns to face the player D:

[@brandenapexo604]

Damn who thought The Devil would be such a good wingman

[@WGC1993]

Can anyone point me towards the song thats played in the background at 12:30? Its like a softer Evils First Soft Touches

[@pedropierre9594]

He is not a djinn for sure, he probably is a demon or sort as he goes thru great lengths to stop people from learning about him as well as hiding his real name, names are said to hold power over demons.

[@LethiuxX]

The one thing people usually don't consider is that he might just be one God from the world, but not necessarily the only one. Gods in stories generally tend to be cruel in their own ways despite being labelled beneficent. He doesn't need to be the devil, or the one true God. He also says that he is not omniscient, and he has no reason to explicitly mention this or lie about it. I don't think Gods in polytheism are commonly omniscient, they are usually distracted by their own affairs.

[@D1rt3nthu51ast]

26:25 *Gaunter O'Dimm will remember that*

[@allentranced7486]

When he started taking the dead brother back to where he was from he was in so much pain which would be considered hell from Bible standards

[@joshshin6819]

Love this game and all it's DLC. The only game I bought a season pass and not feel or be ripped off

[@jordanthomas3596]

Gaunter O'Dimm Whos initials are? You guessed it. G.OD GOD

[@cl8804]

DOG

[@HammockLife]

Olgierd von Everec looks like David Beckham, and their dialect the same.

[@BarkaDog]

Finally someone else who thinks the same.

[@kitcarson7572]

So is he really evil? Olgired is for sure evil, his choices led to his contract with the evil one. In the Blood and Wine DLC there is a woman who denied a beggar food, and was changed into a Wright. Her story matches the description of Master Mirror. Yet once again, this woman was originally evil. Rich, with plenty but turned away the nameless beggar. In the game Master Mirror does not seem evil to ordinary people. Only those who ask for it run afoul of him. For example the one that gets the spoon in his eyeball, is an obnoxious drunk bothering people. Yet Master Mirror also becomes disgusted with Olgired's brother and says, no need for you to have to endure this idiot any longer. Master Mirror also wishes Gerald and Shani to have a good time, wishes them well. Seems to me Master Mirror picks out those who are in themselves evil and plays a game with them, however those whom he picks have shown they are in themselves evil. Not sure who he is, a great mystery but he does seem to leave ordinary people alone and has little patience for obnoxious drunks, those who have plenty and turn away a person asking for food, and as for Olgired he is but a bandit whose own inner evil led him to his choice to enter into a contract with Master Mirror. Played it both ways, and now on new play through's I just let Master Mirror have Olgired and take the saddle he gives you, that saddle is great and can cause great advantage against enemies. As for the sword you get if you challenge Master Mirror, it is like all the other wonderful swords you get in the game...........worthless just like the Blade of the Bits. You check their stats and sell them to the nearest merchant. Cheers!

[@aaronflores7913]

The devil does make sense from being able to make wishes, do deals, take souls, even perform the supernatural that Witcher’s aren’t used to or see before, the devil has many names and many forms as told in the Bible and Dante’s inferno

[@teddanville6996]

WOW, all of these theories on Odimm being satan. Cough: Gaunter O Dimm GOD. Like, nobody saw this or God is evil?

[@TimeattackmodeBlogspot]

ahah ihih Mind blown

[@thecauldron2212]

ahah ihih Demons in folklore often try to mok religion or god itself ;)

[@teddanville6996]

make sense

[@Lolzorpantz]

Makes sense for it to be G.O.D, since, whats the mirror of God if not the devil

[@rocketlaunch99]

ahah ihih oooo dayum

[@alpharius4819]

I don't think he's the devil, just a VERY old, and very twisted creature of horrible power. I like to think he's their version of god, who got tired of doing his job and decided to come down here and have some fun.

[@AG19901990]

There's something I do not understand...Olgierd knows that if his wishes are fulfilled (by Gaunter or someone else), he loses his soul...why does he use Geralt? Why not just refuse to speak of his 3 desires?

[@Shinchibi]

This is a late one, I know, but Olgierds biggest ace in the hole was the final stipulation: All three Wishes had to be fulfilled and the pact must have been nullified once they “Stood on the moon”. Obviously when Ol’ made the final stipulation, he meant the moon in the sky, but he wasn’t specific enough. This allowed Gaunter to find a loophole in it and have him finish their pact whilst standing on a mosaic of the very same moon. Notice the pacts final words: “While standing on the moon.” Well...they were standing on the moon. It may have been a artistic replica but it was STILL the moon.

[@thiagoefs13]

Gaunter is Sammael (poison of God)

[@guilhermerocha4117]

Hope odimm return in witcher 4 someway

[@AtlasCave]

I honestly liked him, I was never afraid of him, and in the end he turns out fine and doesnt betray you, he is simply destroying people who are greedy, selfish and feeds on their souls, as I said he turned out good towards Geralt, he spared him by not granting the wish to see what he trully is(meaning death for Geralt) and at the end grants Geralts wish without word-playing or any trickery. I would personnaly feel bad if I betrayed him, and you never know what he can do to you..

[@cjstapleton9153]

hes a crossroads deamon

[@thewiedzmin6062]

Much much much much more than a simple daemon!

[@kongsied4279]

This dude reminds me of God in the old testament.

[@Brad-ly2wl]

Gunther reminds me of this character: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jnXaoaqMrtGdbqs

[@MagoRulesCabrones99]

Did you guys notice that O'Dimm was the one who cursed the lady of the spoons in Blood and Wine DLC? In one of the notes of the house, she mentions that the man who cursed her was a seller of mirrors..

[@clemsonmanful]

Maybe him looking at the spoon while talking to Gerald on the ship has somthing to do with it

[@NadelundSchwan]

I'm pretty late here, but I'm interested in which place you're talking about? :)

[@kelpia]

Jereth Morales Less subtly, Gaunter's theme plays while you tell your Majordomo about the woman you save from being a wight. Also she says that the man broke a spoon when he cursed her, just as Gaunter does on the ship when he causes the storm. He also curses her to never be able to eat from a spoon. Furthermore, he pushes a spoon through a guys eye just for interrupting him at some point. The guy really likes spoons.

[@kbholla]

Yeah, I shit my pants twice upon discovering that.

[@scaccu]

how can one not notice it?

[@magic713m]

Gaunter O'Dimm is exactly how I would imagine evil incarnate to be like. Charming, manipulating, hides his true colors, and, like true evil, can never truly be destroyed. And the whole making deal for souls thing.

[@umlungu360]

plus has a thing for spoons

[@TheREALExposingtheJoyofS-px3ri]

@Jerry C Lucky for you, and me... let alone everyone else. The devil in a Christian sense doesn't exist. :) But there is multi-dimensional E.T. energy vampires that would like you to believe so, and in fact... the true creators of the human race, as we are a product of genetic engineering. The cycle of life is eternal and infinite, there is no end and was no beginning. Anyone can find this truth out, if they do enough psychedelics (I recommend the natural stuff, like shrooms), but could also lose their mind in the process.

[@159tony]

he doesn't hide anything though. He never lies. and i think a lot of people misunderstand what the devil really is in the bible. Samael is an angel of death. and all of the times when Gaunter uses his powers, someone apparently HAS TO DIE in the end. you can check everytime he uses his powers. someone always ends up dead. whether it's the poor saps on the ship, the guy that got lobotomy via a spoon, or the poor idiot that made the deal, regardless of how the deal ends up, the man will die with certainty. The two actual demons also seem to be going against him in the DLC, which would hint that he's by nature opposed to them. A king of demons he is not apparently. so that only leaves the answer that he must be an angel. or at least an accurate enough portrayal of what samael in particular is like in judeo christian lore. again, you can cross reference this if you want to see it for yourself.

[@TheREALExposingtheJoyofS-px3ri]

Angels aren't real, but there is multi-dimensional E.T. that pose as such... same goes with Demons as well, or they could be thought-forms, but as for Angels and Demons 'themselves', they don't exist, but believe what you want... What ever helps you sleep at night!

[@Ragnarok423]

The Wither universe is so weak and Fodder a Sea Sload can solo that verse with no trouble.

[@cr4yv3n]

That moment when satan gives you good relationship advice :D

[@vansserafim]

cr4yv3n that neutrality or something about him is what makes him so great

[@Mister-Thirteen]

Interesting note? What advise O'Dimm gives is basically the kind of ego-centric hedonism you'd find in actual Satanic philosophy by the likes of Anton LaVey. Funny isn't it how the devil is always a hopeless romantic?

[@LabTech41]

@@Mister-Thirteen Of course he would be; Evil is simply what we call it when a person only cares about themselves, and only works to better their own interests and desires. It's not simple selfishness, but egotism taken to it's logical endpoint. If you don't care about how the object of your 'affections' feels in the truest sense, then it's an easy enough think to manipulate them into getting what you want. Being old and omniscient enough to know how to push a woman's buttons, and deriving amusement from doing so doesn't make you a romantic, because a romantic has to truly love the object of his desire, and an Evil person only loves themselves. The irony about being evil is that nobody wants to fully accept that they're evil, so they'll always leave a crack in the door for something they can call 'good' to come in. O'Dimm's charming facade is what he uses to delude himself into thinking he's not wholly bad; the rules he makes with his pacts are how he excuses his monstrous actions by saying "it's not my fault, they just didn't think about what they wished for".

[@Mister-Thirteen]

@@LabTech41 I can't say I agree. Cards on the table, I'm a LaVeyian Satanist. These philosophies are archetypal to my own. And what you're describing isn't egoism its narcissism which is as fair from logic as you can get. Egoism is recognizing that all your motives are inherently self-oriented and acting on that knowledge. Narcissism is what happens when you let your ego overwhelm your sense of reason. Narcissist can love others for reflecting what they love most in themselves, but an egoist loves others for what they do for them in all senses of that statement. "Romantic" is ultimately just a statement of old fashioned idealism, to play upon what is unknown and mysterious. It is merely the rejection of pragmatism and stoicism in a philosophical sense. In this manner O'Dimm's advise it just that, romantic and idealized over pragmatic and realistic. O'Dimm isn't human or mortal for that matter, he's no more reason to justify his action in anthropocentric terms like good and evil then you have justifying your own in barks and scent marking. But if we wish to put a label to him in those terms then we have to recognize the egoism inherent in that action.

[@numerialized]

@@Mister-Thirteen @LabTech Grieves me to see that a simple misunderstanding ended this discussion. Let us continue please. @Mr.13 , @LabTech said "egotism" not "egoism". @LabTech romance is the exact opposite of pragmatism. Neither does it require love, nor does it require sincerity. In fact, intelligent sincerity is the end of romance. Therefore, I do not think your argument of "romantic has to truly love the object of his desire" is valid. Also, I believe that, the only people who use the terms of "good" and "evil" are the ones who want to assert their opinions on what is good and evil on other people by shaming what they do not like and encouraging what they like.

[@ghos1mate25]

“There are four dimensions. Length, hight, width, and time. What would you rather have me fall in love with? Width?” I don’t know what situation I’d use this, but I’m gonna start saying it.

[@drummerinthepark9641]

It's nice to use references but at times they seem most unoriginal amongst commoners.

[@Dreqt]

On tinder: Her: How tall are you? Him: How fat are you? Her: Wtf, why does that matter? Him: There are four dimensions. Length, hight, width, and time. What would you have me fall in love with? Width?

[@master_zeus]

@@Dreqt brilliant lol!

[@IsaacClodfelter]

I do feel 'O Dimm underestimated how much power one would have if they had the same control over width as he has over time. Imagine if he could manipulate the physical property of width. He would be able to effectively turn people into drawings.

[@damienomen669]

Gaunter O'Dimm is also the first person you really talk to in White Orchard, the one that's a huge fan, and a down on his luck Merchant of Mirrors, when you first pull into town at the Tavern. I had no idea until I went back and played through a second time. That is a stroke of brilliance on the part of the writers, it shows they had big plans for him right from the beginning. Such a great game with some of the best writing I've seen.

[@solidcake3401]

Damien Omen haven't seen much writing then have you.. Its pretty basic.

[@nikolabonev8439]

damn, if you're as solid as the cake is in your name, you'll rip out your asshole trying to shit out that pretentiousness

[@adityafawwazafa778]

@@nikolabonev8439 you funny asf for that lmaooo

[@justwatch7091]

@Terror I didn't. I knew I saw hım in somewhere but didn't know where.

[@joshblair5021]

No it isnt.

[@griffMcTall]

Greatest game ever. So much detail in your choices. Never knew that Gaunter can subtly tell you how to get the best ending. That assumes you've done heart of stone before the main story and you choose to ask about ciri. All these little things add up to make a masterpiece.

[@greenglade47]

Also if you start hearts of stone before finishing the main story and then go back to the main story before finishing hearts of stone, Ciri (and I think some other characters) have additional dialogue options regarding the markings on your face. Little touches like that are what catapult this game into its own stratosphere IMO.

[@nguyenhaidung8833]

call him evil all you want but he is the perfect wingman

[@graou_paou]

@Damien Dingus wut?

[@Athen239]

@@graou_paou He got Geralt laid.

[@johnv5276]

@@Athen239 He helped him to fornicate, that is a sin.

[@Athen239]

@@johnv5276 According to some if you're unmarried to the individual. I know this is the KZbin comment section, but this still feels pretty left field.

[@johnv5276]

@@Athen239 Gaunter o dimm is supposed to be based of the Biblical Devil, I was just pointing out that he didn't really help Geralt at all he just helped him to sin, premarital sex is a sin in the Bible. what does pretty left field mean sorry i dont understand that saying

[@theSyndicatification]

I love how O'Dimm constantly feigns ignorance when divulging his knowledge of the world. "Hmm, the only Borsodi I know of round here runs an auction house in Oxenfurt" *proceeds to appear in the background ahead of Geralt in every single location he travels to.

[@florianrudowable]

One does not simply visit the auction without buying the professors badass glasses.

[@Lensah23]

Do you think that this might actually be the best representation of the devil to ever be made in media, let alone games? CDPR plays him out perfectly in the biblical sense where he doesn't appear as evil at all when you first meet him, but rather, pleasant to be around. Further more, there are very few times when he gets his own hands dirty, yes he does from time to time but for the most part he influences people more than directly hurting them, he acts indirectly, suspiciously, and all with a charming smile on his face. I could go on for hours about this but i want to know if there have been any other representations of the devil as good as Gaunter, or better yet, what was the initial folk lore tale that inspired CDPR to make the character?

[@chenmsqiu4553]

i think you are right.at least i can't think of any "devil"s other than him right now(i think that's cause people tend to fear him for most of the time

[@dannyfreed4224]

Raikerr the original folklore is from a story about the evil incarnate called "Faust" i suggest looking into it. It's an old polish folklore story.

[@TheRedSkullx]

Well, this character was made really, really great. If you want to see other representation, check out Al Pacino in "The devil's advocate". I think he nailed his role and in my opinion it's the best movie about devil.

[@00Catch00]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Twardowski

[@themanwhosoldyou9545]

I would say he is, but Lucifer Morningstar exists.

[@JSmith-nu4bl]

10:45 WOW the children singing at the crossroads... soooo spooky gave me the chills

[@lostsoul4784]

I thought it was just some creepy nursery rhyme at first, but right after that i hear what O’Dimm’s whistling i knew their was something much more sister behind it

[@linguaLatinae]

I love how normal he looks You don’t see the monster he is until the story unveils

[@ENn0ble]

"Heave like devils" "What the devil?" etc Anyone else catching those little subtleties where someone brings up the devil when Gaunter leaves the scene?

[@martinbudinsky8912]

@Jerry C Nope? They refer to his true nature. The devil as portraied in Slavic folklore (mostly western slavic folklore) like Czech, Slovakian and Polish. Gaunter O´dimm fits him perfectly.

[@Corristo89]

BTW, fourth wall break? Gaunter O'Dimm whistles his own tune and tells Geralt about the "perfect" ending for the game?

[@Cookielord1231]

Corristo89 you don't know what a fourth wall break is, do you?

[@void735]

Smegnigma he does. There are times at he looks at The Camera with certain words. Like when asked Who he really is eyes eye locked on The Camera saying "No..."Before he continues speaking hes eyes move back to Gerald. Subtle in my book

[@LordSesshaku]

The song is heard in the game, is the song kids sing, a song that warns people of him. Him saying the path to perfect ending is not a 4th wall either, because he's just giving Geralt information on the things Ciri will need to trust him.

[@adamfowler5475]

Honestly, I saw him as "damn this guy is cool and covered with mystery..." until the wedding, where I thought "damn this guy is inhumanly terrifying, not sure if I want to even know anymore.." the single most frightening line he said was " I promise he will not die...*chuckling*"

[@Gaunter_ODimm]

"i promise he will not die" he is in a better place now trust me 😈

[@saltyboy6549]

I had the same though process haha, who knew eating an apple could be so terrifying, i also love the foreshadowing in that quest when he tells the lady who makes ginger bread that the best ingredient is *TIME*

[@paulnaut437]

Damn, at the end, he tells you how to get the best ending of the game, which is having her be a witcher with a happy life with Geralt....

[@matthewbilich6175]

It's not though. The best ending for Geralt is not the best ending for Ciri. Food for thought.

[@SpectreICollateral]

@@matthewbilich6175 Ciri would be much happier being a witcher than empress. It's mentioned in the game as well, and often in the books. Besides, she's obviously much happier if you meet her as a witcher in Blood&Wine than as empress.

[@Athen239]

I also vote Witcher ending.

[@pietplant5488]

@@SpectreICollateral do you saw how her father react that was sad

[@TheClarkBark]

*starts new game, finds O’Dimm* “YOU.”

[@iancampbell3931]

I love how at the wedding, Gaunter starts laying into Vlodimir. He knows all his fears, hate and shortcomings. All Vlodimir’s dark thoughts he had his whole life.. But Gaunter didn’t know that Olgierd prayed and talked to his brother where he was buried. He didn’t know that Olgierd loved his brother or that Vlodimir knew he was loved. He didn’t know about Olgierd lying to protect his Bros honor. And when Vlodimir basically defends his brother and drops this truth, Gaunter just dismisses it and changes topic immediately. A great nod to him being the devil. He knew all the awful things, but he couldn’t see or know that Olgierd Loved his brother. Garunter can see lust but not love or at least understand it. He’s an entity that embodies the worst of humanity And He’s blind to the good. It’s perfect writing.

[@cl8804]

What makes you think that he's unaware?

[@pastthepeak3195]

Olgierd sacrificed his brother

[@cl8804]

@Damien Dingus DOG

[@XiyuYang]

He knows love and that was how he manipulated Olgierd to sacrifice Vlodimir

[@marcelllakatos3586]

I just couldnt bring myself to challange O Dimm in the end. He is so damn likeable and I didnt want to ruin our relationship. Its a shame we didnt get to meet with him in Blood and Wine. For example , when we go to Corvo Bianco after we complete the Dlc , he could have been a visitor too and depending how we parted with him in Hearts of Stone , he either would have been glad to see us again or kinda vindictive and promised he will get back at us one way or another. And of course we could have asked about the spoon wight if we figured out how to lift its curse .

[@banelerg5289]

This guy just said Satan is likeable

[@injusticescorpion6459]

30:49 Notice how he 'Spawns' in that scene

[@Xantain]

How did I not notice that before!? Holy hell.

[@johnniewalker877]

He’s the true evil of the world dude of course he hides at the corner of your vision, waiting till you’ve forgotten about him.

[@syahnovlikuartapama5401]

When u realize that o dimm was stalking u all the time in the background was creepy af. So much detail

[@maisikakk]

As said before, he's clearly the Pagan Devil, not the Satan of christians. In Estonian folklore a very similar character is called the Old Pagan and Old Hollow One. What I like is that in Witcher he's also called Master of Mirror. I haven't heard Devil called that in folklore, but it's exactly what he does - he reflects peoples flawed desires back at themselves.

[@azazel166]

So, what's the difference between the Pagan Devil, and the Abrahamic Devil, apart from the latter being a fallen archangel?

[@maisikakk]

I think the difference is that Satan is absolute evil, a purely destroying and corrupting force, antithesis of God. Everything he does damages the Natural order. Pagan "Trickster's" deeds look similar at first, but ultimatively are beneficial for the mankind. He punishes weakness and foolishness, but can help out clever and resourceful people. Of course, in many legends, Satan plays this role as well.

[@Kretek]

I love how people are saying stuff thay dont know nothing about. This whole story is based on Polish folk tale about sir Twardowski (Pan Twardowski in Polish). Nobleman who sold his soul to devil. This whole story is heavily influenced by Faust story. In fact, Twardowski is even called Polish Faust. And guess what, that devil was as you called this, "Satan of christians" (actually he was Mephistopheles, but who fucking cares, same thing). Beside, Christianity is so mixed with pre-christian believes (at least in folk tales) that it make actually no difference.

[@kyriss12]

I know Gaunter and O'dimm were both aliases used by the dark man who keeps showing in Stephan Kings books. And I think Master of mirrors might have been a nick name used in Eye's of a dragon.

[@txorimorea3869]

The Satan of Christians is not the same as the Abrahamic Satan. Long time ago Christianity was heavily influenced by Manichean beliefs cleverly injected into it by Augustine of Hippo. For a Manichean the ultimate good and evil are in equal footing, in the other side the Abrahamic Satan is just an underling without free will. People had to look somewhere else to depict a Satan far more powerful with its own agency. That is why the Pagan Satan looks so much like the Christian Satan.

[@CeroAshura]

"Do you truly wish to know?" How very heinous to set-up a trap like that...

[@Goudhaantje1993]

Also, he clearly displays the seven deadly sins as well, either through himself or by pointing them out in others. Sloth - has Geralt fulfill Olgierd's wishes. Pride - Seems quite fond of his time-manipulation and powers in general and boasts about them. Envy - He sees through Vlodimir's facade and points out that the latter was jealous of his older brother. Lust - Catches on to romantic interactions quickly and urges Geralt and Shani to have sex. Greed - His desire for souls and his manipulative nature aimed at getting as much out of his deals as possible. Gluttony - Seems to enjoy food despite being a supernatural being that likely doesn't have to eat, has the apple reference going on and his overal behaviour at the wedding all carry this theme. Wrath - Can be unduly cruel for no reason in particular. He tortured Vlodimir's soul for the sake of it and also killed a man by putting a spoon through his skull just for interrupting him. His contracts also seem to be based around people exhibiting these sins, turning to him in order to revel in them.

[@TimeattackmodeBlogspot]

Very well put. I'm adding this to the description.

[@drlecter19911]

Really nice, but it's "only" 6 out of 7. Sloth is wrong. Olgierd wanted to trick Gaunter, that's why he said "do somebody else my wishes." He wanted to be sure that O'Dimm cannot collect his debt from him. So this is not sloth.

[@Stealth_LIEOS]

ur damn right

[@kronoscamron7412]

IMO vlodimir deserved it because he didn't want to leave Geralt's body. so torturing him was justified.

[@PhlebiacClown]

Good pointing out, idk about Gluttony though. Not like he stuffed himself during the wedding festival.

[@rbuzal]

This character is taken from the Polish legend about Mr Twardowski (olgierd) - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Twardowski

[@TimeattackmodeBlogspot]

Wow, thank you for that. Very cool.

[@TimeattackmodeBlogspot]

It is Faustian but not directly.

[@Kretek]

+Aleksa Petrovic: Well, Twardowski is called Polish Faust so yes, you are actually right in a way.

[@hypeerj]

There are a lot of references to polish culture. Fight between Olgierd and Geralt is from movie "The Deluge". Noblemans like Olgierd ale represantations of lithuanian and polish noblemans called "szlachta",they're wearing kontusz and using sabers rather than swords. Kovirs ale ottomans with which Poland shares some part of its history during the Commonwealth. The Wedding is like a adaption of polish XX century Drama called "The Wedding" - in both there is a wedding of nobleman and a peasent, occurs ghostes and other little detailes. At some part of the game Olgierd says that he even ripped his shirt begging of mercy - it's referencje to polish painting 'Reyten' in which polish nobleman rips his shirt to defend the Third May Constitution. Main plot is of course adaption of Pan Twardowski. And there is pretty much more of this...

[@adamfowler5475]

I like when Gaunter bites the Apple at 41:54, Vlodemir immediately leaves Geralts body and starts crying in anguish, as if the Apple bite signified some injury to the ghost.

[@danny_decheeto8300]

Seriously, gaunter is probably one of the most interesting characters in the game

[@Gaunter_ODimm]

Isnt it ? 😈

[@ungobungo7986]

Gaunter seems to be a powerful shayateen, it would explain why he has a bald head, whistles and can reveal himself to people or hide himself at will.

[@danenagai1157]

Late reply, but the moment you mentioned Shayateen, my mind clicked to "Satan". Googled it, wasn't surprised by the literal similarity.

[@C0SM1CDUD3]

My suspicion is that every bite of Gaunters apple was him taking a bite out of Vlodimirs soul until he complied. O'Dimm is hands down the best villain in the Witcher universe and one of the best in fantasy fiction.

[@marxman5284]

Best video game villain ever?

[@TimeattackmodeBlogspot]

Quite possibly

[@vansserafim]

Tj’s dead channel for me - definitely

[@conorkiddell9245]

No

[@uninstaller2860]

Satan was there. Satan was real to me. Satan called himself G.O'D.

[@martinbudinsky8912]

underated coment...

[@Gaunter_ODimm]

"satan" i hate this pathetic nickname .

[@emin62bek]

47:57 The backround music when he says „No Geralt, you don’t“

[@lole7846]

Gaunter o'Dimm clearly is a reference to Faustian Mephistopheles and the devil in Pan Twardowski. He offers those in deep and inescapable despair his aid, knowing that eventually their overhasted agreement to the bargain will be their doom. He is not ultimate, biblical evil but rather a fiend who loves toying with his victims and exploiting their foolishness.

[@lmatt88]

"Just who would I be if the true nature of things remained hidden from me? Someone like you - meaning no one."

[@texdillinger6173]

16:55 "I was just asking for his soul and that asshole told me he wants to stay alive.. EVEN SENT DOGS AFTER ME D:"

[@augmentedjester7659]

This arc was awesome! O’Dimm was the first character since I was little to make me feel genuine unease or fear toward a video game character. Great great character and story!

[@graham1158]

14:30 oh the irony... that fits o'dimm so perfectly

[@chrisquinn3377]

I love how odimm describes himself at 14:32

[@bagberke]

Lucifer Morningstar is in action

[@matto6116]

I find that letting Olgired's soul get taken is the better ending, and fits Geralts personality. He has risked everything to find Yenn (least in my play through) and Ciri. The risk of having "Satan" as an enemy to take it all away, is too great for a strangers soul. Master Mirror is a unknown and Geralt likes to know a enemy ( Oils, bestiary, etc). Lots of people say Geralt is stronger than O Dimm, but in the next playthrough we see the Elder vampire is a much more powerful being, so it shows that Geralt does indeed have a limit to his power. I am happy that Geralt and Yenn are making wine together, without the threat of "Satan". Also, I think Master Mirror is cool xD

[@TimeattackmodeBlogspot]

Agreed, and well put. I saw many people on forums sparing Olgierd and thinking "WHY?!".

[@joethemig1522]

Can't say I agree. Going by the canon of his character, Geralt is not one want to choose even the lesser of two evils, so I find it hard that he'd ever side with the personification of evil itself, even if he did disagree with whoever was on the spear-end of evil's weapon.

[@Godunow100]

Na pochybel skurwysynom. That's why.

[@MoreDakka545]

Joe Themig he complains but he still goes for the lesser of two evils. After all, that's exactly what happened in the book by the name

[@simonbarabash2151]

Wait... who the fuck thinks Geralt is stronger than O Dimm? He can inconvenience him by beating him at his riddles game and denying him a soul. But he is an immortal, time manipulating entity with the ability to appear or disappear at will, and take your soul at a touch. Gaunter O Dimm is something far worse than all of the other supernatural shit Geralt has to deal with, including elder vampires, crones or the hunt. All of those are at worst from different worlds, while it seems Gaunter is from a different level of existence, possibly the multiverses version of Satan or other incarnation of evil.

[@chadbrochill19]

The first two times Gaunter O'Dimm shows up in this clip, a "devil" is referenced, the prisoner mentions the word after he leaves and after the children sing the song, "a beast" "devil" is referenced on the wanted poster. Gaunter, 42:00 minute mark, is eating an apple. In the Abrhamic mythos, the Devil is seen 'offering' an apple to Eve to tempt, the Tree of Knowledge in Genesis. He also clearly references a "Hell" while speaking with Vlodimir, basically if you don't leave, I will take you to Hell. He's standing near a tree, appletree where the came from? (THere was one on the ground earlier when talking to Vlodimir) Same scene, Gaunter talking about temptation about 'surrending' to it or the human flesh, original sin or some might say, "free will". (Non related, when Gaunter is talking about Ginerbread menn.... pretty sure he's talking about devouring souls and giving them time to ripen with time.)

[@sweaspurdoddd5466]

Meeting at the crossroads is also a reference to the devil

[@saturnscore3059]

I just thought of something interesting. Listen to when gaunter speaks at the cross roads with Geralt. He talks about his talents and associates. Maybe that’s why he has to abide by certain rules because he made a pact with his associates who are probably equally as powerful. 😈😳

[@greengarnish1711]

Indeed other Higher Demons such as himself.

[@ShinForgotPassxXx]

Or he made a deal with the counterpart of himself: Maybe with this universes god. Maybe this is why he cannot interfere or otherwise do things as he wants to for certain events. Other gods are watching and only allowing him to do things in a form of contract that he is forced to obey at if he wants to collect souls. If there is someone like O'Dimm around then there must be more Entities like hijm around and I am not talking about Demons, just neutral ones or good ones.

[@saturnscore3059]

@@ShinForgotPassxXx possibly so

[@nox1772]

The devil waits for you at the crossroads.. Deep stuff man..

[@Jawf94]

It's crazy that he tells you how to get the good ending with Ciri.

[@simonpd38]

My Witcher friend’s! Please take a night or an evening with your friend’s and watch a movie named “Storm of the century” written by Stephen King, in it you will meet Andre Linoge, he resembles o’dimm extremly much, and i guess that u guy’s are going to love the 4,5 hours of that movie:)

[@HolyknightVader999]

As a churchgoing man myself, Gaunter's the kind of devil I can share a glass of wine with. So long as you don't offer him your soul or try to do something stupid with a deal, he's nice enough towards you.

[@arjen4120]

HolyknightVader999 or do anything he doesnt like. For example ask a friend of him to drink a beer. You'll get a spoon in your eye

[@Nikki7664]

But the irony is he will trick you into offering up your soul by asking what your deepest desires are

[@Maple-Lizard]

That's the point. He intentionally acts charming. It a lure. Probably work his way with his words to get you to do something. Like make a deal. He knows you. He'll find something in you to use as leverage. We're all human, right.

[@Danisachan]

Not sure about that. The professor sure didn't do anything of the sort and still Gaunter "repaid" him handsomely.

[@HolyknightVader999]

@@Danisachan The professor tried to pry into subjects he should have left well enough alone.

[@thewiedzmin6062]

Gaunter ain't the devil he is just a mirror that reflects your soul! If you are wicked bastard he will punish you but if you are not a wicked bastard he won't punish you, he may use you but will also grant your wish contract-free!

[@cavok84]

Gaunter reminds me of Randall Flagg edit: Just realized that one of Randal Flagg's monikers is Walter o'Dim. Guess he might have inspired Gaunter.

[@Kaiji...]

I think he's definitely the Devil in the Witcher universe. In a lot of stories, the Devil isn't necessarily evil in the sense that it insta-kills whoever it wants, instead, they play with their victims and torment them. This also means there's likely similar existences above or equal to him (i.e. God/s). O'Dimm says he doesn't want to meddle with Ciri, this means, something, likely on a 4 dimensional scale either protects, or has something planned for Ciri. Perhaps it's "Fate" itself, maybe Ciri's destiny is certain to come to fruition, so much so that O'Dimm is powerless to intervene no matter what he tries... he can see the future after all.

[@bladewolfvii6383]

The whole elven blood stuff has never been all that interesting. But this is gold!

[@cynfaelalek-walker7003]

What gaunter said at the end apparently means: "congratulations, you're the rooster king on top of a pile of shit, you think you've won, but you couldn't be more wrong, I'll be gone for now but I'll be back".

[@Gothrand1]

Really cool that Gaunter can fully explain how to get the best ending for Ciri. It really comes down to those four interactions with Ciri that determines it. Never realized that was an option since I took the route to fight Gaunter rather than let him kill Olgierd

[@conorbrennan7551]

I knew something was up when I first came across him in white orchard for someone that geralt never me, knew who he was looking for names and all ...he had a plan for geralt all along come to find out...one hell of a game

[@Ko700el]

Olgierd : no i am NOT on the moon, im in my socks, that are in my boots, that are on a rocky surface, inside a temple...........IM not ON the moon, my boots are on a drawing of a moon like thing, better luck next time demon..... Odim : .......fuck.... Geralt : well...my contract is fullfilled, get this tatoo off me....im leaving Odim : FFFUUUCK

[@Gaunter_ODimm]

never use my name again to talk. I forgive you this time but use it one more time and you will meet the same fate as olgiert. 💀

[@Ko700el]

@@Gaunter_ODimm you NAME is not used in my comment ...you failled yet again demon :)

[@Gaunter_ODimm]

@@Ko700el why do humans lie even if the evidence is under their noses....i said i forgive you for this time sooo you are lucky i always keep my promises .

[@kendalthmendoza7668]

This game should have been called " Witcher 3: The Merchant of Glass"

[@Antonfinger1]

In Arabic mythology it Is called if you whistle you call the devil And he whistles his own theme.....

[@moncefbakir398]

49:24 when the devil gives you a legal advice

[@NiceAwesomeDude]

46:02 gives me chills every time...

[@NerevarOfficialReal]

Everytime Gaunter stops time or disappears, someone mentions the Devil. *Sings a song about the Devil* 'My mum don't let me talk to strangers'

[@maltimoto]

1:04:00 ... Now, von Everec is hollow. He is the Ashen One and must go to Dark Souls 3.

[@Baalslegion07]

That punishment would be to harsh, even for G. O'Dimm. Imagine being trapped forever in the Dark Sous universe...

[@ryoma8402]

I am convinced that O' Dimm is the literal Devil. I remember from my own childhood, my religious parents telling me that the Devil takes many forms and tricks his victims. He gives them everything they want in life. Riches, fame, success and basically everything they ask for. But the price is always the same. Your soul.

[@sneezebiscuits7239]

Funny way of saying "Blame some supernatural entity in case you screw yourself".

[@Unknown-rz1dn]

Caraca vey, o O'Dimm bota mais medo que todos os monstros e Bosses juntos SLK kkkkk

[@EI-diablo-r9i]

Calling him a devil sounds too simple. This guy is something beyond imagination.

[@Gaunter_ODimm]

Not a devil , i am the devil 😈

[@darkminer14]

Next time you go to a gingerbread building contest and someone's there named Gaunter, get out!

[@NathanielLFC]

Heart of stone is way better than Blood and wine

[@themajesticspider-man6116]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@kelpia]

Nathaniel Id have to disagree, HoS had some really shitty boss fights and was alot smaller. The only real selling point of the DLC was Gaunter himself whereas the blood and wine had the charm of toussaint and challenging yet fair fights and it also showed the immense power of higher vampires. On top of all that it had characters equally as good as HoS, we finally meet Regis for the first time (who was made into a pile of goop by Vilgefortz in the books) and get to unveil an interesting plot with a twist I honestly didnt expect. Blood and Wine is better for gameplay and story while HoS has the superior antagonist (though I hate to call O'Dimm that, as I dont feel he is a straight up bad guy)

[@ardi1606]

HoS has better characters, but Blood and Wine has new map, more missions and interesting story.

[@duncanidaho998]

I think only Human that he liked was Geralt.

[@vivenkeful]

Even in his human form he has slightly pointy ears, and his facial structure is very similar to the way people displayed Devil on paintings. Not to mention when he transforms back into his real(?) form... there he does look like the Devil.