The Witcher 4 is WOKE?!

[@Rapture-nv5vj]

In polish version, ORIGINAL LAUNGUAGE THE BOOKS WERE WRITTEN, she literally calls herself "a witcher" but in feminitive form (wiedźminka)

[@Khantext12]

Which means Witch rather then Witcher. Small nitpick but yes.

[@grzegorzlewandowski3859]

@Khantext12 Nope, polish witch is wiedźma. Wiedźminka would be closer in structure to Witcheress. Adding more to the word rather than going back to just feminine root of the word.

[@themremperror1391]

@Khantext12 Nope. Witch in polish is "wiedźma" and male form of this word is "wiedźmarz" but nobody use this and in male case like "Witch king of Angmar" we us "Czarnoksiężnik" (as evil sorcerer which known dark arts primary) and another word for "king". Witcher means "Wiedźmin" and feminine form is "Wiedźminka". Wiedźmin and Wiedźmarz are two different things and second is almost forgotten word not used today.

[@themremperror1391]

@@grzegorzlewandowski3859 or she-witcher.

[@Gabbriel96]

She could have called herself a three headed unicorn, it doesn't change a thing

[@corbels]

The chat yelling woke at every single game that wasn’t gta or silksong actually killed me lol

[@M3ltedNikhowaz6426]

Yea that was annoying the fuck out of me. My god these people need to touch some fucking grass.

[@dominator1914]

Hell, they even call GTA 6 Woke now…

[@eptgamers]

THEY WERE SO DELUSIONAL WITH THE HALF LIFE 3 STICK UP THERE ASS. I got second hand embarrassment from watching that stream. They make us gamers look terrible

[@M3ltedNikhowaz6426]

@@dominator1914 If a person unironically uses woke to describe something they don’t like I think less of them as a person because it’s cringe to say woke.

[@kingdoom5022]

Ciri was downgraded soooooooo much design wise

[@soap9277]

People that are mad about not playing as Geralt missed the fact that Geralt fucking basically retires at the end of Blood and Wine and that Ciri is literally set up to be his successor

[@FlyHighShootStraight]

Oh they didn't play that. Ita very clearly set in that DLC Ciri is taking over from Geralt.

[@benjaminprieto6605]

Depends if you play the deck and of course the ending you got from w3... i got the really depressing of ciri disappearing and geralt on a never ending suicidal mission

[@bradleydapkus8301]

It's always the people who don't actually care about the franchise whining, lol.

[@know1827]

Not too mention she can travel worlds and times. Who says there's not a world where they figured out how to let women survive.. people are seriously looking at anything to be offended about

[@toncek9981]

That's like my only issue with Ciri being the W4 protagonist - W3 was supposed to be the conclusion of the Geralt & Ciri story (and for me fulfilled that role perfectly), so every sequel revolving around main characters seems as a cheap and unnecessary cash grab to me. Now, to be fair, I've always preferred the empress ending, which obviously doesn't go with her being W4 protagonist nearly as good as the witcher Ciri ending, so I'm kinda biased. Personally, I would prefer prequel set long before the Geralt's times (perhaps during the Falka rebellion)...

[@unlimitedhearts]

She's not even ugly either. She literally looks like her same model in W3 but older. Like OH NO how dare people age 🙄

[@chair2945]

She looks f*cking beautiful; more so than in W3, I'd argue.

[@triples3273]

​@@chair2945 I second that. She fine as hell (even the scars just add more definition to her face)

[@_Risa1992_]

How *WOMEN dare to age.

[@krtairlines]

​@@chair2945true

[@wildwilco]

@@unlimitedhearts they made her nose massive compared to TW3 Ciri. Also the more manly big eyebrow forehead ratio, and geralt demeanor....

[@Frost00th]

Bro she’s even the main protagonist in the books too LOL

[@Brother_O4TS]

Pure irony

[@Fayrinn_09]

She’s not really the main character in most of the books because the books rotate around many different protagonists but she’s still one of the most prominent characters.

[@macgyver42563]

You expect the Reich-Wingers to read? Didn't the Notzi's (I'm saying it this way because who knows what KZbin might do) burn books so that their narrative was the only one that mattered? Woke is just the latest in a long line of buzzwords that the Right-wing use so that they can keep their sheep afraid of literally everything that isn't them.

[@kingdoom5022]

The books clearly state that only who been through trial of grass can become witcher , or you only care about the parts that you like ? 😂

[@keyshawnjackson8617]

​@Fayrinn_09 was she a witcher who passed the trail of grass to I must have missed that part

[@elliottcrain3097]

Respectfully she’s looking perfect, they actually made her look like she’s been thru some stuff without making her look totally different or unrelated to her W3 version I love it

[@kzbb9977]

She looks Polish! I love it

[@isascarparo5992]

I saw one dude who actually went into the book lore to understand how the Trials of Grass work and why the mortality rate is so absurd and he came to the conclusion that what kills you during the trials is the production of testosterone. That's why adult men always die if subjected to it. That's why they do it with younger boys while their production is lower. They basically never knew that women would have a higher survival rate, and trusted that they would be more vulnerable, because, if it kills strongs adult men, it surely will also kill adult women, who were seen as more fragile by default. Is it Canon? Not really, but the dude had such a good analysis of it, I was flabbergasted about it. I'm not making justice to his analysis. I wish I could find his post again.

[@wildwilco]

Where did he find this research? You claim it to be from the books, yet at the same time saying "it's not really canon" If it's from the books, it's canon. If it's not canon, it's not from the books, in otter wordt, the Netflix witcher show is NOT canon.

[@olleolausson]

​@@wildwilcoHis analysis is based upon the knowlegde from the books but his analysis is not canon.

[@isascarparo5992]

@@olleolausson exactly.

[@wildwilco]

@@olleolausson so the books are not canon? That's the conclusion?

[@olleolausson]

@@wildwilco How did you come to that conclusion🤨 No, one guy gathered lore from the books and made an analysis based on that but his analysis could be wrong.

[@some1youknowbutalsodontknow]

what wokeness, we should cancel the witcher 4 because she doesn't have a 16 year old girls face with anime girl preporions despite Ciri literally being a warrior who kills monstrous creatures, like come on

[@gijsdekker9568]

Preporians

[@svgarpaws]

the "raaahhh woke!!!" group genuinely has no concept of what real adult women look like. good example was the outcry over Aloy having a "beard" when it was just normal peach fuzz EVERY woman has. their brains are ruined by 🌽 and being chronically online, their opinions are about as valuable as a broken umbrella in a typhoon.

[@bluewolf6323]

'Oh no, how dare a woman not have the softest jawline, the buttonest of noses, the snatchiest of bodies, and the fullest of makeup...oh nooooo...'

[@michaelschroeder1559]

For all the fucking work we did for her in witcher 3, she damn well better be the fucking main character in witcher 4. We DIDNT do all that work just to play as GERALT AGAIN.

[@shadows1987]

For real, we had a whole fuckin trilogy with him. It honestly would've been a slap in the face to just be Geralt again

[@therest9281]

For real2

[@DarkFlo]

@@michaelschroeder1559 True. You should not touch a character whose story has ended, otherwise you will most likely destroy his character.

[@okankorad57]

honestly would have loved to play as geralt again just cuz i love him. not that i have a problem that its gonna be ciri this time though

[@Yashdavid51]

Well I got her killed her in my first run !!

[@righto8702]

So we will play LADY OF PLACE AND TIME? There's nothing like playing one of the most powerful characters in the universe.

[@v__R4Z0R__v]

What makes me anxious is that we didn't see any of her actual powers in the trailer. She has a lot of new ones which is cool, but what about her elder blood abilities? I wanna teleport around the map!

[@righto8702]

@ we see powers from books, specifically drawing energy from water to strike with a spell (there is no mana in this universe). After all, there was already teleportation (fast travel). Playing as Ciri is, as before, the end game Geralt in the first location. The only thing I'm afraid of is a "stupid" explanation that Ciri is weaker to give us the opportunity to develop her.

[@Soldat2547]

@@righto8702a good in game lore reason I can draw on was a quote directly from Ciri during the later parts of the Witcher 3 where she calls the elder blood “my gift, and my bloody curse” she most likely hates and holds resentment towards that power because it’s dictated so much of her life (and others around her), she will always view herself more as a Witcher than a child of the elder blood. Choosing to forego the trials is a big indicator of that, it could also be she just doesn’t want to be reliant on the power after all she has been proven to be extremely stubborn

[@righto8702]

@@Soldat2547 and this is where the plot inaccuracies appear, unfortunately CDP doesn't deal with these aspects. The narrative says „I don't want to use”it because it doesn't make sense, because it should be used at any time if necessary, right?

[@righto8702]

@@Soldat2547 after defeating Eredin, no one will threaten her because she is so powerful... but maybe I pay too much attention to such bullshit

[@TheSaNdMaN5000]

Siri was also trained as a Witcher in the books

[@Lillith.]

Thank you. I thought I was misremembering that.

[@Nenetonk]

Siri from apple?

[@TheGrandy123]

Well said.

[@brycealthoff8092]

Hell, the tutorial level from 3 is literally a glimpse of Ciri’s training. It may have been a dream, but it was based on reality

[@Bulmachan224]

Yes, but she has witcher eyes meaning she went through the trial.

[@Ketabdar69]

I've read all 7 books and played all three games with all endings and I can strongly and proudly say that WITCHER 4 LOOKS LIKE A BANGER. CIRI IS F*CKIN GORGEOUS AND DON'T YOU DARE CALLIN HER UGLY

[@GEROKII]

Different strokes for different folks. Do you recommend the books?

[@thefirstofthelast1181]

Theres a new book out, cant wait for the english translation or the audiobook by peter kenny

[@samuelmeier1617]

White knight comment incoming in 3...2...1...😂

[@Amzzyyo]

​@@samuelmeier1617 Respecting women is "white knighting" now 😂 My God, men like you are getting more and more smooth brained as the years go on. Stay single friend xoxo

[@samuelmeier1617]

@@Amzzyyo It was a joke good friend 😁 I said those comments are incoming, not that this was my opinion :) We are on the same side on this dear stranger 😙

[@eyasa9448]

Yall need to understand, most if not all witcher cinematic trailers had characters that look a LOT different than their in-game model, especially geralt, so ciri will probably look a lot more different when the game comes out

[@malucoblz588]

Best response so far.

[@sadmanmahi2584]

I hope she turns up good.

[@ThatOneGanyuMain]

I hope she looks closer to her Witcher 3 self 🙏🏻

[@magicari8919]

She looks hot though even now?? She's just more realistic and older that's all

[@Cyric151]

True but I'd attribute that more towards issues of the engine at this time. At this point we could very well be playing a Ciri that looks exactly like that. And I'm down for it

[@abrahamkresnik9726]

It never surprises me how some people forget that this has been a thing since 2015. The plan has already been set for Ciri to take up the mantle. Bare in mind, Ciri herself is far more powerful.

[@steakismeat177]

Yeah. True fans are not mad about playing Ciri. They’re more upset that CDPR is going to the traditional play style we’ve grown accustomed to instead of devising a new system revolving around Ciri not being a full Witcher. Utilizing her other magical abilities instead of potions. Like do we really expect Geralt or any of the surviving Witchers we know would ever subject her to the trial of grasses, especially at such an age. I mean she’s the lady of space and time. That’s enough. The grasses are a significant gamble during the best circumstances and those haven’t been the case since the sacking of Kaer Morhen. It’s not impossible but stretching believability.

[@Christofer_tTt]

You’re all purposely not hearing the criticism. That’s called straw manning and it’s dishonest just fyi. I haven’t heard anyone say Ciri being the protagonist itself is the problem. Why do you feel the need to run defense to such an extent that you misrepresent what people say?

[@Arprill4]

What does woke mean I can't comprehend

[@maesaigo8538]

​@@Arprill4in here, it means that diversity (that is to say, the race, sexuality and gender) of the characters, is more important that making a good game. Essentially, virtual signaling the game(s).

[@Prod-MellowDrama]

@@Arprill4 it’s different depending on who you ask, but the origin comes from African American vocabulary. It originated in the 1920s as a term to describe someone who’s aware of social injustice and other issues. The term has since been bastardized into an insult to describe something or someone that frivolously complains and argues about social issues (despite the fact that they usually have a reason for their behavior)

[@some_random_asian_guy]

"she won't be near as good as Geralt" That's what we said about Arthur when rdr2 came out

[@azimuth011]

lol yeah, first trailer dropped I was like "who's this guy?"

[@Sweetzluf]

Agreed. I don't know how controversial my opinion is, but I loved Arthur more than John as protagonist.. Although, I still love John.

[@S3BE2T]

@Sweetzluf I agree, Arthur has a more complex and better story arc compared to John. While John story in RDR is basically « I’ll do whatever it takes to save my family » with a little twist at the end about the government. RDR2 explores deeper topics : what does loyalty mean ? Does it really worth giving everything we have ? Can we do bad things for good reasons ? What does it tell about us ? Are we still a good person ? Can we really redeem or is it just a fantasy ? Also RDR2 came out 8 years later and had more time and money invested to it.

[@Arad-u1q]

​@@Sweetzluf i would like him more then a rancher too.

[@WalkoffGrandslam]

LEEEEENNNNNNYYYYYYYY

[@Onnlen]

She looks so beautiful in the new game. The tired, the bitter, the frustration. I can feel that too. It’s nice I’ll be able to play a woman who doesn’t look like an anime character.

[@joesmo3722]

Literally the entire plot of Witcher 3 is preparing ciri to become Geralts successor

[@lanserilstorm8414]

Yea but let's be real. Geralt or ciri. Nobody wants to play as ciri

[@CaesarLvcivs]

That is your interpretation of it. Now, don't get me wrong: I'm NOT siding with the "She's wahmen, so it's automatically WOKE 😭😭😭" and the "She's uglyyyyy 😭😭" crowd. However, the way I see it, it is unnecessary to go with Ciri. To me, it just seems like the worse option when we could've gotten a completely different character with whom CD Projekt would be free to be creative, or a Vesemir prequel. Who wouldn't want to play as Vesemir? Retconning stuff from the lore, where women can't become actual Witchers (I disagree with his point in the video where he says the games don't have to follow that because they're not canon) just feels forced so we'd have a female protagonist. And of course, for the publicity benefits of going with Ciri. The way I see it, Ciri's canon (game canon, I mean) story should end in W3 along with Geralt's, with him retiring in Corvo Bianco and Ciri becoming a "Witcher by trade". We don't need to know anything else about that. Plus, Ciri is one of the most powerful people in existence, so unless they nerf her A LOT, the game could have a completely different vibe. But sure, I hope the game is good and I don't object to playing with Ciri. I'd just prefer playing as another character. And I won't automatically assume it's woke. But I sure hope it isn't.

[@mesoun3928]

@@lanserilstorm8414 I do.

[@sameehkins5957]

​@CaesarLvcivs Vessimir is just a cool guy but there's more emotion and heart surrounding a character like Ciri. Witcher is all about story (the gameplay is bland/easy). Considering Ciri is the main focus of the books and is the main focus of Witcher 3, it makes sense to have Ciri ad main character. Playing as Vessimir would feel like a spin off rather than a continuation.

[@CaesarLvcivs]

​@@sameehkins5957 But here's another question: why does it need to be a continuation? As I said, the ending could've been left open and we get another story entirely. Whether this would be better or worse for the story wold throughout the 3 games is a matter of opinion. Mine is that it would be better. I think the story and the characters would benefit more from a fresh start than risking ruining a story that already has a good open ending. Sure, it's titled Witcher 4, but it could as well be titled something else entirely, such as "The Witcher: Spin-off Character". My point is that the title is irrelevant, in case someone would use it to argue that it should be a continuation.

[@SirJenti]

If Ciri is considered ugly, I can't picture what is beautiful.

[@NotMikey437]

People are just angry there aren't ass shots every 5 second like Stellar Blade.

[@Fpsnerd-d6r]

I don’t remember was that game good or bad

[@voyagersmarch8776]

witcher 3 ciri

[@Dragnir1002]

​@@NotMikey437 I think they're in this vibe because of Intergalactic, and they're a bit skeptical. I kind of understand them; I’m also worried about Ciri's design. However, the trailer shows her in a context of anger and hatred, so her features are naturally distorted. If this is her face with distorted features, then she must look much more beautiful normally.

[@hm4005]

Old ciri was beautiful

[@doritawithoutdoritos6533]

Crazy how since the Witcher 4 announcement we were literally hoping that we will play as Ciri. And now that she's been confirmed to be the protagonist, we suddenly have a problem with that? Lol

[@jopun3691]

I dont get it, i am very cautious about witcher 4 but for other reasons ( i see some red flags in company also i remembmer cyberpunk case ), but i dont see how playing as ciri is a bad thing

[@Emitlium]

I personally think it's the eyes and what it brings with it. I would have had no issues playing as Ciri (and also expected to do so after W3 if we ever got another game), but I expected something else - she is Witcher in name alone due to the process of making Witchers being deadly to women, so suddenly being like "actually, developers never said this is same as books" is such a weak cope out. We could easily have a game where we play as CIRI! With unique abilities and gameplay that differ from previous games. I would have liked that. Idk how it will turn out, I am excited for it anyways, but her not being Witcher until the time to make more money came and cash in on the name is valid criticism in my eyes. That is my only issue, anything else is silly tbh. So I cannot really tell about the rest.

[@doritawithoutdoritos6533]

@@jopun3691 yeah, I agree. I'm mostly puzzled by comments like "I will not play as a girl" "CDPR has gone woke" "How will I bang sorceresses now that we won't play as Geralt" etc

[@doritawithoutdoritos6533]

@@Emitlium agree 100%. But, to be honest, in the books (at least in the translation that I read) the lack of women witchers was explained roughly as "There has been no cases where girls would survive the Trial of Grass". So it could be argued that Ciri, being the carrier of the Elder blood, managed to survive. But, eh, I don't really like that explanation either

[@HollyMolly337]

Not “we” , it’s just some random incel dudes who’re complaining.

[@swaggadash9017]

Bruh shes literally the main character BESIDE Geralt. The entire setting of the Witcher 3 is completely about Ciri.

[@michellestr8998]

Thats all well and good, but every single franchise has switched out their male protagonists for female. Zelda, Star Wars, Uncharted, Resident Evil, Ghost of Yotei.... you must not be very good at pattern recognition. If it waste. different time, Ciri might be OK.

[@nathanaelluis6968]

@@michellestr8998 Zelda is the protagonist for a SINGLE game, chill out. Star Wars had plenty of protagonists beyond the Skywalkers, what's the problem with the newest one being a woman? Uncharted's protagonist is still Nathan Drake and Resident Evil had female protagonists all the way back in the 90s. Ghost of Yotei is a whole new game, not Ghost of Tsushima 2, you literally picked the worst examples for your case.

[@ericwarr9088]

​@@michellestr8998I see what you mean, except for resident evil.... because in nearly all RE games you choose to play as male or female or you play as both.

[@The_Artisan313]

Ciri is the baddest woman in Witcher and I will die on this hill Edit: nvm yall basically ratio’d me. Yennifer is better I was tryna defend Ciri

[@BlackXief]

get a girlfriend incel

[@maverick9357]

Yennifer

[@keyshawnjackson8617]

That a bad hill to die especially since Yennifer exists

[@kingdoom5022]

@@The_Artisan313 Get her past triss first lol

[@capitalism7189]

Can you name 1 ugly major female character in the Witcher? I can’t

[@BIONICTHUMB]

"Ciri can't be a Witcher" So we are just forgetting the opening of Witcher 3 that shows Ciri training to become a Witcher, or the playable missions where Ciri acts as a Witcher, or the ending that *spoilers* has her become a Witcher? Ciri was pretty much born to be the perfect Witcher and spent nearly every appearance she has on screen building to this moment. Anyone who thinks it's forced inclusion or whatever has never played the games and probably never will anyways

[@jankowal260]

The problem is not with Ciri working as a witcher, the problem is her surviving the whole mutation process as an adult and a woman.

[@joshhord903]

@@BIONICTHUMB bro she can't cast signs and never took the trial of the grasses to mutate her body. Because she didn't take the trial of the grasses, she wouldn't even be able to withstand potions or decoctions. It takes more than being good with a sword to be a witcher.

[@patrykslusarczyk8484]

​@@joshhord903I agree with potions part, but she could cast signs, read the books

[@joshhord903]

@@patrykslusarczyk8484 A: the games are not 100% faithful to the books. B: whats the point of casting simple witcher spells when she has the magical ability to be a sorceress? C: she doesn't have the strengthened body or eyesight one would get from the trial of the grasses. She fits much better as a sorceress or spellsword

[@docop8926]

​@@patrykslusarczyk8484its woke 💩 weather u wanna c it or not

[@Ghoulish_Gaming]

Anytime there’s a female protagonist people immediately call it woke like it’s a bad thing. Did everyone just forget the numerous times you could play as a female in games throughout the years?

[@feizai245]

You're missing the point. Most people don't have a problem with female protagonists, but people have problems when the DEI BS hijacks popular franchises and replaces the main male character with a female.

[@ChonksChickenPotPie]

@@feizai245 ever since 2020 people had start to develope a pattern, no suprise why they start acting like that

[@winter-ok1mj]

​@@feizai245 but she is a character from the game no one switched genders she just became the main character in this game so it's more like it's woke because a girl is the main character???? Like just play the game

[@curtiss129]

Yea like in Tomb raider it even won game of the year

[@daxxad6]

You miss the point. Were are fine with ciri but nit as it has been shown to break thr lore and made her a masculine jawline stand out.

[@jaim8147]

The same people that go: "But I'm not gay! I like women!" But don't respect them. 😅

[@randomjester9983]

These absolute clowns only see them as something to beat off to 😂

[@ascalone3894]

I had to double check, but apparently the books never actually state that it’s impossible for women to become witchers. They say that historically, women haven’t been able to survive the Witcher trials, but they never outright say that it’s impossible. And we’ve been consistently shown throughout Witcher 3 that Ciri defies logic and expectations and is generally just built different so her being a Witcher makes sense even with book logic At this point the grifters will just say anything

[@artydean9892]

In fact in the books vesimir thinks she could pass the trials

[@Tryant69]

How does that matter if adults in general don't survive it? They need to be children to have a chance right?

[@artydean9892]

@Tryant69 because they feel she will survive as an adult. She's hardly a normal person she's not even fully human. She us a lot more Resilient

[@azrigal87]

Also they’re forgetting, or ignorant to, the fact that she was training under the witchers(Gerald and vessemir predominantly) in the education and combat of the wolf school. They were literally training her to become a Witcher in the 3rd game lol. Ppl are delusional nowadays

[@Tryant69]

@@artydean9892 Yeah so she doesn't need to be a real witcher and go through that dangerous process without knowing if she will die since she is already very strong..

[@JanKowalski-zi8tu]

Concerning the ‘women can’t be witchers’ thing - dunno how it looks like in the english translation, but in our original polish one there is absolutely no mention that witchers consist solely of males. Sapkowski - the author of the Witcher books - never denied their existence either when it comes to other Witcher related media either. The 2003 ttrpg game - Witcher - the game of Imagination, stated that the School of the Cat trained women as well, while the original tv series from 2002 outright featured a female witcher character - Adele. Sapkowski never criticised those. Lastly, there is a quote from Triss after she meets young Ciri training in Kaer Morhen: “You didn’t subject Ciri to violent mutations, you didn’t tamper with hormones, nor did you experiment with elixirs and the Trial of the Grasses. And for that, you are to be commended. It was reasonable, responsible, and humane." So it is implied that girls being subjected to the Trials IS possible; it simply wasn’t done.

[@iambatman.5894]

The amount of hoops u are jumping to make sense of this dei crap is insane. SIRI is not a witcher. She can never be a witcher. And frankly she doesn't need to be. Reasons: 1.she is woman. 2. It is very risky. Risk she doesn't need to take. She is already strong and even if she wasn't this was is way way too risky. 3. She is an adult. There is a reason the trial of grass is done on children or boys. Their body is more open to change. And before u state that she has elder blood, refer to point 2. It is risky and unrequired. There happy?

[@goldenacestorm2679]

​@@iambatman.5894 I love how he gave facts and arguments and you're response was nuh uh game woke. I wish you would actually argue why a game that has never been lore accurate can't have a female Witcher?

[@tiltalot3759]

@@iambatman.5894bro can you read? Did you play Witcher 3?

[@Tihamatt]

​@@iambatman.5894 you misspelling Ciri has told me all I need to know you child, you clearly are a child whose parents won't let you play the Witcher games. Delete your comment.

[@danielgoncalves3980]

​@@iambatman.5894first of all, not Siri. Its Ciri. With a C. Second. Amount of hoops? Like for example....?

[@TheCrappyRobot]

Buddy, ive seen people claim Astrobot as woke, apparently it's a game thats "Journalist difficulty." The void levels beg to differ

[@PIXEL-yt3fu]

Bruh what? I didn't hear about that one And seriously? Calling Astro bot woke? There's nothing woke about it bro You play as a robot ffs 😂 Just like people complaining about Wukong, you play as a MONKEY People really make me laugh because they feel the need to hate everything lmao

[@TheCrappyRobot]

@PIXEL-yt3fu I saw a "Top 10 woke games of 2024" And Astrobot was on the list, because it was game "Made for the journalists."

[@samuelguohi]

It’s a god dam robot how is it woke😭

[@DruidGoblin]

@@samuelguohi fucking clouds are woke nowadays.

[@samuelguohi]

@@DruidGoblin yeah apparently my dog is also woke now

[@ElizaArika]

Meanwhile the Zelda fandom: "We FINALLY get to play as Zelda? LET'S FREAKIN GOOOOO"

[@oprime0078]

“Not gooner bait”? These people have never seen how prolific Ciri rule 34 is have they. Also wasn’t she playable in some sections of Witcher 3?

[@BloodyRoseAnn]

Yes she was

[@BloodyRoseAnn]

Yes she was

[@Expreso100]

She was playable during some memories scenes during Act I... and she was hella fun and totally overpowered

[@dungeonmaster1609]

There’s a difference between hot and goonerbait. Ciri is hot, without being overtly sexualized. Characters like Aloy from Horizon Zero Dawn are hot, yet not overtly sexualized. Pretty much every 16+ female character in a Hoyoverse game is wearing clothes 3 sizes too small and basically have their chesticles spilling out, that’s goonerbait.

[@goodjuju6400]

I mostly kept using the dash/teleport button when on the hardest difficulty just so I could avoid getting attacked in those sequences

[@nizaral-olovy1584]

these kids yapping clearly didn't play witcher 3, the game literally set ciri to carry geralt's legacy 🙄

[@walther2492]

Exactly.

[@anhkriva5274]

Ciri can fight like witchers do because she was trained for it, she can travel and hunt monsters like witchers do because she wants to live like that, but to be a witcher she would have to undergo mutations and that simply makes no sense. She is already more powerful than a hundred witchers put together. To somehow justify this, they would have to completely deprive her of her elder blood and all the powers it gives, because undergoing a mutation that will 99.9% kill her in order to be much weaker simply does not make sense. Ciri can work and live as a witcher without being a depowered cheap imitation of Geralt, she can do it and remain herself. You would understand this if you played Witcher 3.

[@patrikomelka3918]

​@anhkriva5274 don't jump to conclusions yet, she will probably not be just a female geralt with elder blood, she won't be able to do the same as Geralt, but will still be able to do witcher activities with difference of what makes her strong opposed to common witcher, who needs witcher potions ,when you have magic at your finger tips

[@TheGrandy123]

👌

[@michellestr8998]

Nope. That was one ending, and not even the best one.

[@neilhannan5112]

2000s games wow looks at these realistic human characters 😍 2024 games: the females don't look like Scarlett Johnason it's woke 😡

[@damobeck1]

I mean…. Yeah.. they should be.

[@kingdoom5022]

2000s games women looks better than ciri in Witcher 4 😂

[@artoriassif9458]

​@@kingdoom5022She's not even ugly and women in games in the 2000s were almost always just supposed to be sexy first or only maybe how attractive your main character looks doesn't really fucking matter what matters is gameplay first and foremost

[@silverblade357]

Me: "They're gonna have Ciri play exactly like Geralt? Hmm. This trailer also just seems to be pulling elements from older trailers. This honestly looks kinda uninspired. Gonna need to see some gameplay before cracking my wallet."

[@PickIeJuice]

To be fair a lot of big corpos make really ugly women for their games

[@SquisheeDog]

"I know nothing about the female experience and perspective and don't want to." That was an actual comment I've seen. They can't imagine playing as a woman and don't want to try imagining what it's like to be one.

[@isascarparo5992]

@@SquisheeDog and then they get absolutely offended by women choosing the bears.

[@fizzlepop5318]

Don’t tell these people that she is even more powerful than a Witcher. They will likely call her a Mary Sue, even though the background of her character well establishes her journey to learn to use, and control the Elder Blood she holds.

[@soap9277]

Fr, she literally has powerful ancient magic flowing through her blood, and they act like she can't handle a few drowners

[@warriorprincess1846]

I was looking for this comment! Just shows they know nothing.

[@АлимНажев-г4л]

Tbf she is kind of a Mary Sue having this great power since birth

[@fizzlepop5318]

@@АлимНажев-г4л id agree if it was left at that. But the story does well to explore it.

[@jamesalexander8193]

She is a Mary sue! She had powers... but had to learn how to control them. She is a beast with a sword... that took years to learn by witcher teachers. She took on the wild hunt... with a lot of help. If she is a Mary sue then so is Harry Potter

[@ВикторФирсов-е9ф]

Ciri being called “Witcher-girl” for 6 books straight: “yeah, sure, I can’t be called a witcher/witcheress”

[@SmileyRadio]

Thank god someone understand,people did not even play the witcher 3,it has parts where u play as ciri

[@krispingle]

I would've preferred a costume character I wanna make my own witcher

[@fionnbarrcasey5247]

… hardly in comparison to play time as Geralt. Stfu. We did not want this

[@damiradoncic]

That would be terrible ​@@krispingle

[@lukeskywalkereu6107]

Listen to me, never EVER say that shit again....​@@krispingle

[@chandlermartin9266]

​@damiradoncic no it wouldn't

[@abdullahirfan9991]

Bro, I was jumping in excitement when it was revealed Ciri's gonna be the next protagonist. Geralt's story, i believe, is mostly done by the end of Witcher 3. Ciri's got so much more ahead of her and i wanna see that!

[@thedoctorisin5141]

I keep needing to point out a few things. Ciri trained her entire life to be a Witcher under two of the greatest Wolves to ever live. Her skill, talent, and training are all exceptional, and it’s literally her destiny. The mutations are the only surprising part, and those are handled by two points. First, that a major plot point of Witcher 3 was studying, reverse engineering, and altering the creation formula and process of Witchers. Second, her adoptive mother and sister are both on the short list of candidates for ‘strongest mage alive’. Either one of them, let alone both, would easily hand wave away the issue of the process being incompatible with her biology.

[@jankowal260]

Alzur was also a powerful mage, and he couldn't hand wave away the problem. They need a good explanation for it

[@franekretek4436]

​@@jankowal260 true, but it's cdpr, they'll make it work

[@rickmel-q7m]

@@jankowal260 the accidental discovery of peniciline completely revolutionized medicine, same could happen with the witcher trials. all it takes is for some random guy in a basemet messing around with mushrooms to discover a new substance that makes it effective on any person

[@094640]

​@@jankowal260honestly wouldn't surprise me if it has something to do with her elder blood. It does make a really good deus ex machina for them.

[@jankowal260]

@@rickmel-q7m But the likelyhood of such accident is a lot lower than antibacterial mold developing on a bacterial medium.

[@morducal2203]

Absolutely agree. I think some people just call literally everything they see "dei" and "woke" . Some people can´t be taken serious and will always be unhappy and angry on the internet.

[@Carnal409]

Yet you are here unhappy 😂

[@morducal2203]

@@Carnal409 I am happy because i enjoyed the witcher 4 reveal. And agreeing with a video and pointing some stuff out doesnt make me "unhappy" ;) Actually your comment points out the problem thats also with the other ones that see everywhere "dei" and "wokeness" regarding the witcher 4 reveal. They are projecting things, that have nothing to do with reality and they assume they are correct and know everything. And when confronted with the truth, they can´t accept the truth.

[@Carnal409]

@@morducal2203 then why do dei projects keep flopping besides the one or 2 that don’t?

[@TheFLAMEXD]

​@@Carnal409They don't, though?

[@Carnal409]

@@TheFLAMEXD cope harder

[@noventvideos5009]

It was kinda annoying how the chat during the game awards typed woke at every game it didn’t even have to have a female character

[@redish2098]

you see, the existance of some other than white males is woke

[@q.i.m.s9999]

It’s much better having chat turned off.

[@Triggermangravy]

​@@redish2098and it triggers them that anything but white men exist

[@epzo]

So? gaming is dead now and the world everythings woke we dont get what we want cus of you people supporting woke garbage

[@umbra014]

​@@redish2098 That's what you think.

[@kevinlocatelli1721]

Also in the books it’s not said that only men CAN become witchers but that only boya are taken to become witchers, that’s a huge difference

[@xKalisto]

Yeah, Tris even makes them stop feeding her weird shrooms they give Ciri to 'enhance' her, thinking they were preparing her.

[@danielburgos6800]

No, it says only boys survived the trial of grasses. There was no further research into how they could make it work for females especially after they lost all the equipment to make new witchers during the raids.

[@4sakend1]

So they changed the lore to make her survive?

[@graysun9108]

@@4sakend1 No, but if you think about it for two seconds you could remember how many powerfull sorceresses and mages, very intelligent vampires and others are there in the end that could help with that.

[@RelaxThruHeaven_RuleAllHell]

Are you kidding me? She looks hot. Just older. She is like wine... if you are expecting it to be all sweet without the bitterness of alcohol... the joke is on you 😂 Plus lore-wise she doesn't even need to undergo the witcher process. Her base powers themselves were hella OP in the book.

[@Arad-u1q]

She is not a witcher. No one cares about the power and everyone knows that she is the most powerfull in teh series but she is not a witcher. She is not gonna cast signs brew potions and such.

[@OfficialDufmaan]

​@@Arad-u1q Even though she isn't a witcher, she is way more powerful than a witcher. She is Elder Blood. She has the ability to make witcher potions. Maybe we will even get a backstory about what happened with her powers when she became a witcher (this is one of the witcher 3 endings). You would know, if u actually followed the actual lore of the games, series and books. You would also know that she wanted to become a witcher, many many many times. I'm personally excited to see how they continue the lore and if it's well explained... also the books, games and series were always about her, not just Gerald or Yen.

[@chrisos1053]

Always figured she called herself a witcher because the training and the work, not because of the mutation. I am however curious for why and how she drinks the potion in the trailer. Elder blood makes it possible? A bit weak but easiest explanation. Different potion? We'd probably hear that mentioned somewhere. Went through trial of the grasses after witcher 3? Even less likely. I don't mind playing as her though, I just hope they got rid of the teleport she had in witcher 3. It annoyed me for some reason

[@Talvi_Sota]

God forbid a woman looks like an adult these days. Shell look waaaay too old XD Im 100% on your side btw, she is so cool, she looks AMAZING, I am absolutely looking forward to it, Allthough I love Geralt

[@Viikingin]

Yeah because a hot protagonist is everything that matters in gaming 🤦🏼‍♂️ In general, calling a video game Charakter hot while over the age of 10 is concerning. Maybe someone should check your hard drive dude.

[@josephlinton1376]

Trust me, I'm disappointed we won't be geralt in witcher 4. But Ciri looks pretty good as the MC. I'm more concerned about if she'll have her elder abilities or not. Blink would be an amazing mechanic.

[@juliusnebulus7303]

Still horrible witcher protagonist unless she has the core witcher traits. Witcher senses, witcher signs, and can consume potions. If she's just her... not mutated she has no witcher senses, will die from poison because of potions and can't use signs... she's just a bad protagonist for a character which's profession is litterally known for these things. If she is mutated and can do those things... shame, i liked gerald more, but fair enough, she'll do well and deserves to be the next witcher and i'll be hyped for the game.

[@Sweetzluf]

​@@juliusnebulus7303 did you not see Ciri in the trailer, drinking a potion and the cat eyes? Kinda hard to miss. It's right before she confronts the Bauk.

[@juliusnebulus7303]

@Sweetzluf i did see it. But i'm not sure if that's just some bs to bait. We've seen it quite often that something shown to us only happens in a very small part of the game. And they will have to come up with a good reason aswell... for how she survived the trial of grasses and why she went through it. A lot that can go wrong. They won't be free of judgement until they delivered... I made that mistake once, with cyberpunk, won't do it again. I'm skeptic, for a good reason. No praise before it's released.

[@Sweetzluf]

@@juliusnebulus7303 personally I am not that worried for the writing. As that is one thing CDPR has always delivered. And I'm sure they'll write a beliaveable way she did undergo the grasses etc. What I am most worried about is how they launch the game.. Hoping for the best as I'm excited.

[@juliusnebulus7303]

@Sweetzluf Fair enough, guess that makes sense. Let's hope you're right. Wish ya a wonderful day👍

[@Fatalitix3]

It was 10 years, a lot of people seems to forget that Yennefer was allowed to search Imperial Library for the witcher formula (most likely from the Serpent School) and used this knowledge to help Uma. It was a major plot point, Eskel didn't know what to think about having the ability to create more witchers again, Lambert was pissed of that Vesemir still had the equipment around the fortress, he was both nostalgic about the good ol days and traumatised by the horrific proces of witcherisation. 60% of boys died during the Trial of Grass but I belive Ciri Elder Blood will allow her to survive, after all Avallach managed to survive most of the trial. I think there is potential to tell very interesting story with Ciri and we shouldn't be afraid of every new thing in the lore, as lore can always be bent. Just not too much not to break it

[@TheCursedCat1927]

To add to all of this: TW4 is obviously going to take place years after TW3, so it's not like nothing has happend in that time. Not to mention that a big part of the game's marketing is the new School of Lynx, which Ciri even has a Medallion of in this Trailer. CDPR clearly wanted this Trailer to make us question a lot of stuff - and it's honestly concerning how many people are completely oblivious to this...

[@dr_diddy]

​@TheCursedCat1927good point but School of the Lynx is fanmade no? I'm pretty sure it's school of the cat, like school of the viper/bear. Ciri got her medallion from Leo who was from School of the Cat

[@darkcrowsin666]

you mentioned the lore the lore says that girls can't be witchers because they can't survive the trials only little boys who survived the trials of crasses can become witchers 😊

[@ihavenonameforyou1]

The game is going to he woke based on what the CEO said and the initiatives the company took and that is a fact. Plus that is people's cope about canon, the game also says so. Not only can't women become Witchers and many houses got destroyed, you must be a child to go through through the process. Bacially they will do a girl boss thing.

[@KingKarlTNT]

Well then they might as well bend it a little further and recast her as a man.

[@wyrmoffastring]

We don't know of Ciri could become a Witcher as far as the books go. We know that: - 4/10 boys survive the trial of grasses - the trial was performed on girls but all of them died - Ciri is not any woman, she's incredibly powerful It's only clear all of the girls that attempted to pass the trial died, the witchers stopped taking girl children altogether rather than experiment further. It's entirely possible some girls would survive, just a definitely smaller number than boys. Also Ciri herself is a much more powerful and strong human altogether. She has a much higher chance passing the trial than others, boy or girl. And in the books she does very much want to become a Witcher, she even calls herself one.

[@marcola80]

in the books it's never stated that women cannot be witchers, just that no woman has ever survived the trial of grasses.

[@sarbitar]

Not even the fact that no women ever survived. They just say that no women have ever been trained in Kaern Morhen

[@mikehiebert6227]

Exactly, not to mention the fact that Ciri, is born of elder blood. Whether she still has those powers or not after stopping the wild hunt is another debate (dont remember if Witcher 3 explains this). But Ciri is not a normal human, regardless. She has latent powers and biological abilities beyond normal human men. She could certainly survive the trial of grasses, if not a more modified version which is what the story will probably be.

[@Seretras]

Just to add to your statement. In books it was said that boys had higher chance of surviving mutation,therefore they where prime subjects. Also in books , is implied that the cat school also trained female witchers. And the last argument: If Uma could undergo first steps of mutation, then ciri also can , especialy with help of two powerfull scorseress ( yenefer and trias)

[@jaredmorgan5237]

Bearing in mind that my knowledge of the witcher is purely based on the games, wouldn't she be unable to become a witcher anyway, even if she was a man? Isn't the whole issue that the knowledge of how to make the mutagen that creates witchers has been lost? Am I wrong?

[@Seretras]

@@jaredmorgan5237 nope. Witchers ( at least those in kaer mohren) stil have recipes and knowledge. But when school was attacked wizards died. And without wizard/ scorserer/ whatever english word is very very risky. Almost sudicial. With mage 1 out of 10 survived. Without? Even worse

[@Monarch_04]

What the heck are they on? she's HOT!! Rough around the edges but a Witcher character not being rough is not possible!

[@minez5628]

Rough is part of the charm.

[@Fredrikbb]

Why did she get Botox in the cheeks though?

[@IdefinitelyExistIThink]

Honestly rather than a female main character, they need to be more concerned about how it's using unreal engine instead of making its own game engine and how the studio behind the game has lost many talents that worked on previous games. And some other things. Also apparently there's some plot inconsistencies that if not explained in game would be problematic. And just to be clear i have not even played much of witcher at all nor do I know much about it.

[@ShisamiiGames]

@@IdefinitelyExistIThink I think you bring up a good point on unreal engine. The in game footage is on one of the new nivida graphics cards. Hopefully it will be optimized for Lower end GPu’s at its launch.

[@InnuendoXP]

It's like complaining about Aragorn not looking like some baby faced teenbop Disney channel hearthrob or something. She looks exactly like I expect her as a Witcher to look & it's awesome! Being rough is the point! I don't wanna play a damn kid dolled up to appeal to gooners, I want to play an actual adult!

[@6Simply6Sean6]

I said the same thing to someone yesterday! They were complaining abt Ciri being the new protagonist and I even said “dude, Geralts whole story evolves around him protecting Ciri and training her to brave the world on her own. And now that we finally got to that part you’re mad.” Besides, Ciri could easily be the strongest Witcher to have ever existed, with Elven blood and the ability to cast magic, not only limited to quick signs, and being trained by Geralt who (I think) is the hands down the best Witcher when it comes to hunting monsters and knowing their weaknesses, plus his swordplay was like flawless. Combine all that and you have a SICK character and protagonist. Weirdos would rave about it if was some muscular god who was slaying monsters, casting powerful spells and could teleport with a nickname like “lady (or sir) of space”. Ciri is just the next natural step in the series and I’m stoked for it

[@animakhataniar1160]

Good now all is left to make the world feminist and Spiderman fighting garelt I mean destroy the lore completely I am if a 21 cri can survive the trail and drink portions what left to destroy

[@6Simply6Sean6]

@ the games aren’t canon

[@pbaiao2312]

​@@animakhataniar1160Did you even watch the trailer or are you just a whiny child? The trailer literally shows that the world of The Witcher hasn't changed, they literally sent an innocent girl to her death, and when she didn't die, they killed her, no, the world of The Witcher hasn't changed, watch the trailer before you embarrass yourself on the internet...

[@PaRadaRada]

I just wanna see my aging wolf get the break he deserves without tending to someone else’s bullsh*t involving murder, incest, murder incest, sacrificing kids, medieval politics, racism, or kingdom/land destroying plots. The man needs rest

[@6Simply6Sean6]

@ on god! Let Geralt get that Lumbago that Uncle has in Red Dead

[@Nitrofox2112]

I can never take anyone seriously who uses "Woke" as a negative.

[@argoniocalcio9]

It's a word that has been used so badly that it has lost its meaning. Same thing as "overrated/underrated" when it comes to Pokémon, it became something like "popular thing I don't like/unpopular thing I like."

[@KingTez1983]

This is accurate. I've never heard anyone call the original Tomb Raider series "Woke". Just a bunch of people calling her eye candy.

[@sleepyastrooo]

right like if a woman exists in any form of media its either woke or people sexualize tf out of her

[@fonz1776]

Comparing The Witcher to a series that has always been female lead isn't really the same thing.

[@mynamedoesntfi--6161]

Yeah, but Tomb Raider now is woke because Lara doesn't have unrealistic sized boobs anymore. How fucking dare they give her prominent muscles when she's constantly climbing or using heavy weaponry? That's not Lara anymore; that's a man! The Tomb Raider fanbase can be so cringe at times.

[@shadowone01x99]

​​@@mynamedoesntfi--6161 The fact the Tomb Raider is and has always been a badass girl boss make her woke from jump.

[@mynamedoesntfi--6161]

​@@fonz1776 That's not the point. I think they're referring to the fact that people call games woke when the female protagonist isn't trying to appeal to the 'male gaze'. Nobody called Tomb Raider woke when Lara had an incredibly unrealistic body shape and dressed in extremely ludicrous outfits, but it's considered woke now that she looks like a real woman. People aren't pissed that we're playing Witcher 4 as a woman, but that we're playing as a woman who isn't trying to appeal to anyone's sexual desires.

[@HonorGoose]

If I see I person who says Witcher 4 is woke pre Ciri is ugly Im getting my Steel Sword

[@GlycerinGhost]

Might need to get the Silver, better for Nekkers & Drowners.

[@v__R4Z0R__v]

Better get the silver sword for them monsters lol

[@animakhataniar1160]

Better get the witcher positions since now everybody can drink and survive

[@keyblademasterclark]

And my igni

[@christopherdark4671]

Or coat them in peanut butter and toss them into that tower the plague maiden was in.

[@Leonard_PP]

As long as the story is connected then I’m fine with this

[@Iwillgetyoufoool]

Me too, but i hope it's like the new Dragon age

[@grzesieksgs]

Witcher books are literally about Ciri... Witcher 3 - same thing, CIRI. HOW it could be not connected?

[@antoinecogny6307]

Because in my story line she becomes the empress of nilfgard so i dont know how it will connect x)

[@Pinxy_P]

The amount of whiplash I'm getting as someone named Ciry

[@ProjectGeekPL]

Quote from the cannon book: Sparrow tower: "I am Ciri from Kaer Morhen. I am a Witcher. I am here to kill."

[@Maciel_1]

“If Those Kids Could Read They'd Be Very Upset”

[@ophiuchus_kin]

Ciri is not a Witcher too, she's THE WITCHER 4!!!!

[@mahmoudbenzarti4534]

why is she called Witcher? Women are called Witch

[@lmd7369]

​@@mahmoudbenzarti4534Dandelion called her witcheress and no a witch is entirely different.

[@UltraGod9000]

Gerald ain't the Witcher He's THE WITCHER 1

[@artistna]

It’s inevitable that something is gonna be labeled DEI. Even when it was set up in the literal last game that is praised as one of the best in the series. Always trying to find something to be mad at, meanwhile I’m gonna play Witcher 4 and see what Ciri’s story holds.

[@WaterMelonS1]

the last game came out a while ago. it's possible people forgot a few details

[@Swedishmafia101MemeCorporation]

Remember how they whined about Baldur's Gate 3 and then suddenly stopped, just after it came out and everyone loved that game? It's incredible how that didn't convince people to stop trusting these grifters.

[@nxzavian]

​@Swedishmafia101MemeCorporationLet's be fair they were right about Saints Row 5 and Concord

[@dandizzleFoshizzle]

@Swedishmafia101MemeCorporation yea I trust corporations more

[@shadows1987]

​@@nxzavianthey weren't right about shit, those are just plain and simple bad games. It really had nothing to do with wokeness. Concord was a super slow paced $40 hero shooter released in an already oversaturated market where all of its competitors are free to play. And with zero recognizable characters. And Saints Row was a buggy glitchy mess with dog water writing and had basically zero of the elements people remember from the original series

[@antonyduhamel1166]

The only thing that would upset me is if Geralt isn't in the game at all. He doesn't have to be playable, but if he's 'killed offscreen' or only ever heard from in letters, I'mma be supremely disappointed.

[@jorkan_22]

The funnist thing is taht the script where Ciri was main protagonist was almost ready already decade ago, but sure, sure, games are woke now, but not 10 years ago

[@musabkhan1844]

Bro the way he pushed in his glasses when he said “only MEN can become witchers”.

[@Nintendofan91]

He’s just bitter because he doesn’t fit the stereotype of “manliness” himself so he projects it onto BS like this. Ever realized how all of these incels who make comments like that are basement dwellers who never show their faces? Of course they feel threatened by a woman who could kick their ass.

[@Faleko_Fares]

☝️🤓

[@sladew9788]

"Since when were you under the impression that a women can become a witcher" while pushing the glasses up.

[@TheCursedCat1927]

​​​​@@sladew9788 Since it was never actually said that women can't become Witchers - neither in the Books, nor the Games - there aren't any to our knowledge, because they just never tried. It's a tradition for the Wolf School to only focus on boys, because - as explained by Sapkowski - it was simply easier to find a family willing to give up their sons, as opposed to their daughters (and over the years it just sort of turned into an unwritten rule). So I guess [I take your glasses away].

[@sladew9788]

@TheCursedCat1927 i mean that be so. I was joking it. I was referencing the way aizen says it with his glasses on

[@RetroSpark13]

The fact he said that shes ugly is a lie shes a smash

[@chuckEcheddarcheese]

fr but they did her dirty for the thumbnail of the trailer

[@Xiaara_Quala]

I saw so many people in chat call her ugly during the trailer lol

[@googlefearsaltmedia218]

I’ve always disliked the graphical change in games that occurred in the mid 2010s. Skyrim (2011)was good, Halo 4(2012) was okay. But about 2013 with GTA4 is when the shift occurred. Everything started getting glossy. Destiny(2014) and Advanced Warfare(2014). 2015 was the nail in the coffin with Fallout 4 and Witcher 3.

[@unlmitdbeastmode]

@@Xiaara_Quala yeah...and those "chatters" have never touched a woman, nor had a woman even look their way. Sad...Ciri was always being primed for the next protag. I'm excited and this trailer was amazing

[@kaworob]

I don't get it. I think she looks stunning. Has a nice older vibe (older then a teenager) to her, and she is rugged which is normal if you travel on horse back for work. Even in the book Geralt was not striking handsome, he suppose to be a bit scary and has a charm about him, but he was never suppose to be stright up handsome. I was kinda on the edge for Cavil playing Witcher, Mikelsen would be a better fit according to books, but he did aigt

[@laziass0129]

Those who play witcher 3 knew that geralt story is almost finish now he have a house where he can rest and also cd project red told us more than 1 year ago that ciri gonna be the next protagonist.

[@darthgamer6239]

I feel like the only people calling this woke are trolls are just people who don't play the game bec people who did play the game, or read the books, or literally have any interest knew ciri was next it's just annoying at this point

[@greenbrickbox3392]

Yeah I don't really want to play as Geralt for Witcher 4, I was actually really happy he got to retire in a nice manor with vineyards and have a good ending that Witchers never get. Ciri as witcher makes the most sense since that was every ending where she doesn't become empress

[@voicey5831]

​@@darthgamer6239If you read the books then you'd actually know why Ciri being an actual witcher (potions, cat eyes + using magic) makes absolutely 0 sense lmao.

[@darthgamer6239]

@voicey5831 since when have the games followed the books at all? 😂 Maybe stop picking and choosing what you're ok with being "cannon" or not first 😂

[@TheFLAMEXD]

​@@voicey5831It does make sense, though. She's had the training, knows about the monsters and her magic gives her an edge.

[@VenomBean17]

Average Game Awards chat: L WOKE

[@TheHeart-e5n]

What does woke mean?

[@inuclearpickle8628]

@@TheHeart-e5nsocially aware of injustices but it got turned into a term against anything isn’t a white male or conventionally attractive woman. The reason it got turned into a hollow way of saying it’s something people don’t like was poorly written stories and characters of different race/gender or sexual orientation. Overall it’s turned into something you see people who are allergic to touching grass will say if they don’t like it

[@Destiny3309YT]

@@TheHeart-e5n We don't know anymore. It's been thrown around so much in recent years it has lost its meaning.

[@dr_diddy]

​@@inuclearpickle8628"Indiana is woke because gina has short hair and is independent." >anti-woke video with 200k views

[@ThunderTheYellowJolteon]

@@TheHeart-e5n No one knows anymore. It's been thrown at every fucking thing for so long that it doesn't even mean anything.

[@igordeg8379]

I dont understend why people say "Ciri is ugly in Witcher 4". Guys, she just isn't a kid, adult(yea?)

[@Swedishmafia101MemeCorporation]

If a female character doesn't look like hentai then it's WOKE DEI 😡

[@stillsprouting5633]

We all remember her looks in Witcher 3. If the makers would have kept her original looks in witcher 4 then it would be great. Main problem is that she doesn't look like adult Ciri either.

[@nxzavian]

​@Swedishmafia101MemeCorporation Not true People are perfectly fine with female characters who are covered up It's just that this Ciri looks completely different from The Witcher 3

[@r_rfie6889]

Mf be like : "Wow women getting older too? WOKE"

[@thundageon5962]

GOONERBAIT, that's why

[@nathanaguiar7264]

I think this creates the exact opposite problem. If we call everything DEI trash, then the real trash like Dustborn and Concord gets to hide in the shadows.

[@blueberyjuice8242]

There are games where DEI is apparent, but Witcher 4 and Ghost of Yotei clearly don’t have those signs. They have weaknesses and flaws, and actually dynamic personalities (at least they have shown to be). Don’t judge a book until you’ve read it.

[@Goku-pm7rp]

I don't claim stuff is dei but didn't cd project red said they don't do dei stuff in their games and hire those specific people but the community notes called them out on how the DEI stuff is on their own website? Lol

[@mikeoxlong403]

​@@Goku-pm7rpCDPR is one of the most "woke" companies out there. They make good games though and there was no forced inclusion so far.

[@fastgunnns3881]

​@Goku-pm7rp While I might be wrong, I'm pretty sure they do it for grants since a lot of modern-day games are super expensive to make, especially the ones CDPR makes.

[@Swedishmafia101MemeCorporation]

​@@Goku-pm7rpWaiter, waiter, more buzzwords please!

[@nhaleet342]

I know a lot of people had issues with Ghost of Yotei because of the lead actress, she's said some crazy woke stuff. Hopefully she doesn't get to change the character much herself.

[@trackback7545]

As one guy wrote, Ciri looks even too beautiful for a witcher's life. In reality she would have to look like Eskel...

[@haroondaman7162]

I don't like this new Ciri, she looks like she isn't going to have any charm. Kinda like how they ripped the charm out of Leon in RE4 Remake

[@Brutalhonesty11]

​@haroondaman7162 you havent even seen her say more than like 10 words.

[@virtualgambit577]

⁠@@haroondaman7162I’m sorry but you clearly did not see all the edits of RE4R Leon that were everywhere. OG RE Leon gets all the ladies in spite of himself, the guy is usually dumb when it comes to interacting with women from 2,4, and 6. And that’s funny, but I’d never say they ripped the charm from him in RE4. Yeah they left out a few of the funnier quips, but that’s because it’s a remake. Not because it’s “woke”😂

[@cjlewis4938]

​@@virtualgambit577 no one claimed it was woke...

[@haroondaman7162]

@Brutalhonesty11 her face gives me a feeling

[@syawaalmeerasa7576]

bro actually arguing with his split personality at this point

[@M_k-zi3tn]

lol I can't unsee it now

[@AmirRifle]

Fight club reference?

[@SubieFrancis]

I hate the fact you can tell the people complaining never completed the game. If you get all the right endings in main game and blood and wine dlc, Ciri literally visits Geralt in the last mission and they talk about how she is coping with being a Witcher. SHE LITERALLY ALREADY BECOMES A WITCHER IN WITCHER 3!!!

[@biyukun]

She has insane powers! She doesn’t need to do the trial of grasses. And she proclaimed herself a witcher throughout the books. The prejudice she might face among witchers could make for an interesting story-especially since witchers are dying out.

[@lukeamparo6586]

I’m just curious why she can drink potions. Ciri shouldn’t be able to drink Witcher potions since she never took the Trial of the Grasses cause it could’ve killed her like many other children. Wonder how they’re gonna explain that. Is there another Witcher school, sorceress, or apothecary who diluted the Witcher potions for basic people to consume? Expected her to be a spell sword badass but would’ve liked her not drinking potions. Makes her more distinct from Gerald and other Witchers. She could’ve been a founder of a new Griffin school for normal human Witcher that study sorcery and swordsmanship. Also women also can become Witchers like in the School of the Cat. But they have to take the Trial of Grasses as children for it to have a chance of success.

[@HotShotNot-y8z]

It just looks like lazy writing.

[@adamsarufan2656]

In one of the endings of witcher 3 she takes the path and becomes a full fledged witcher. That's probably why she can use the potions. Also the elven blood probably makes her more resilient against those potions as well.

[@TheLoneCourier2077]

​​@@adamsarufan2656 She became a witcher in title only, she didn't get the mutations/go through to trial to be able to use potions. If it's just her elven blood, HOW DID SHE FIGURE OUT THAT SHE COULD USE THEM? Did she just say screw it and down a potion? 50/50 shot she's either able to use them or becomes a potato? I just don't like the idea of her blood being an excuse for lazy writing, a magic be all and end all.

[@Yamikitsune]

@@TheLoneCourier2077 I froze the frame early in this short and she has the telltale cat eyes. Something's happened, that's all I can tell

[@shadows1987]

​@@HotShotNot-y8zwe have barely seen 3 lines of dialogue please stfu and wait for the actual game before criticizing the writing that we have seen none of. They have nothing but time to explain things however they want

[@LynkynPeppers]

Edit: looking through the comments I'm amazed at the amount of people trying to argue with people who read the original polish versions The book is polish, if someone tells you what's in the books and you can't speak that language then sit your ass down Also like it's been said a million times, THE GAMES ARE A DIFFERENT CANON omg is playing as a woman that bad for y'all?? 💀 Idk about y'all but I'm tired of all the male protagonists all the time Let Geralt retire, my God God forbid the female protagonist in a fantasy game has realistic wear and tear from being a monster hunter I swear, this is giving me "why does she have a beard??" Flashbacks from horizon zero dawn

[@patrikomelka3918]

I feel like everyone thinks they just made her a female geralt, but come on, why would she need mutations to survive with silly witcher potions she was born strong and trained to fight by the best. She doesn't need to be the same to be effective monster hunter. All she needed was some knowledge and experience (and the magic that she got with her birth package ;D ) It would be Woke if she was just witcher with maybe slightly stronger magic still played around mutation, but she was literally paraded around her magical capabilities I just hate they didn't show the main difference more in the trailer so people wouldn't think they forgot who she is. (The thing with cannon is that witcher 3 was non-written continuation everything before was written around the books, so books have correlation with all written of the past, games are trying to make a sequel for the story in the books, but even with that it makes sense why Ciri can take the role of contracting witcher, even if she isnt a "true witcher" she still can do the same just with some alterations as she cant do some witcher activities, but also can do some that "true witchers" cant so I am excited to how they innovate the formula around her :D)

[@Maciel_1]

I can’t remember… but I thought they even addressed the “only men can be Witchers” in the games. Like it was another obstacle Ciri was overcoming. Even if they didn’t address it… becoming a Witcher, while the world says you can’t, just sounds more badass. I can’t think of any reason why Ciri deserves any hate. Incel-brained complaints is all I hear.

[@Krioni_]

The Witcher 3 set up my Ciri to be in the next Empress of Nilfgaard...

[@Thor12233]

Thats one of the endings. In another endings she dies. I dont see how cdpr can make all this endings cannon but i guess we have to see

[@pendabarente4765]

I searched for a quote that explicity says that women CAN'T transform into witchers. I didnt found one. Triss tells Vesemir and the other witchers back in book 3 that they should stop giving ciri herbs and other ingridients because she is afraid that that could change her body. Just like the first changes for witchers. From my point of view we didnt saw any female witcher yet not because it isnt possible but no school even tried it. If you look careful her slit eyes are different to those of the cat eyes like Geralt etc.

[@Ida_Jane]

If I remember correctly, it was that only 2-3 in 10 boys make it through the mutations. But I think that they did try the mutation on girls, but none made it. However, Ciri isn't a usual human, she's of the elder blood, she can literally travel through time and space itself, so I think she could easily be the first female mutant. The problem in the trailer is that Ciri uses magic outside of her elder blood abilities. In the books she gives up the ability to perform magic in order to save the life of a unicorn. She literally 'wyrzeka się magii', which means something along the lines of 'cuts all ties to magic'. And Ciri using magic is the only thing I think has no good reason to be in this game

[@pendabarente4765]

@Ida_Jane yes the trial of grass has not a great chance of survival. We know that most boys died. We dont have proof if girls were ever tested. Maybe by the cat school, its roumored that they have elven witchers. But at the point we dont know how it affect girls. Ciri is different with her elder blood. Maybe thats the reason why her eyes look different than other witchers. Or maybe her trial of grass was different. I didnt see your point with the magic. Maybe if you have the book and the chapter, that would be great. But overall she uses signs, which are basic magic skills, and some other magic tricks, nothing in the league of a triss in riva or something like that.

[@ayhcenkard2965]

That's not anti woke that just sexist 😂😂😂 I don't know why people angry at ciri as main characters give geralt a break plz he's already too old

[@TheFLAMEXD]

I hate to tell you this, but anti-woke has basically become sexist and any other insulting thing you could think of.

[@trunky37]

Because Ciri's story is also done, she fullfilled her prophecy as being the savior of existence, let it go. I just wanted a new original witcher that we could customize.

[@Carnal409]

@@TheFLAMEXD hate to tell you this but forced woke dei is also sexist

[@lilithhenderson]

What forced w​oke DEI? All the complaints are about her "not being attractive enough" @@Carnal409

[@TheFLAMEXD]

​@@Carnal409Lol, having Ciri take up the mantle of a Witcher isn't forced ot sexist. It was set up ever since Wild Hunt, she even went through the training.

[@zeroace4746]

I'm baffled that some people are calling her ugly, when she's conventionally attractive.

[@keyblademasterclark]

Probably because she doesn't look like her Witcher 3 model

[@DavidWhat-j9s]

@@keyblademasterclarkyeah but the trailers have always been different from the character models so it’s not a proper comparison until we se her in game model

[@jessnoby9579]

Ya ,like she is not the prettiest girl but she definitely looks like a stunning older woman in her late 30s. And she has that witcher grit and looks perfect for the witcher role and for the game.

[@donthepsycho2018]

My main worry is honestly her strength. In TW3 she was op as hell, with more experience using her powers she might as well be a demigod.

[@johnsexton4352]

Calling out the hypocrisy with that last line lol

[@General_Grievous_.]

99% percent of the gaming community when the main character of a game isn't a caucasian man: *hmm, sounds like woke to me*

[@swaggadash9017]

Nowadays they aren't even wrong half the time. This has been caught in the crossfire though 😂

[@General_Grievous_.]

@@swaggadash9017 i mean, unless the mc of a game is a transgender furry pansexual half Asian half African American I honestly wouldn't consider it woke

[@Goku-pm7rp]

Didnt the hate ghost of yoeti started because the actress posted stuff about white men? Im a POC and even i find it cringe when people say they are against racism but say stuff about white people

[@roger_towny_jr]

Yes, because their views and opinions couldn't POSSIBLY be the result of the mistreatment and marginalization they have endured by white people in their past. 🙄

[@Shellshock39]

@@Goku-pm7rp The hate Yotei got was solely because the protagonist was a woman.

[@fernandocontreras1577]

​​​@@Shellshock39 i think is rebound from the woke. Ive noticed a cultural shift where people are sick of dei and stuff. Especially in America where trump won. Trust me its going get worse to the point game studios will bend the knee eventually just in the opposite direction. Pendulum goes back and forth..

[@iambatman.5894]

​@@Shellshock39two things can be right. And most of the people who will play the game is a man. There is simply no two way about it. It like making a chick flick movie and making the main focus on fast cars. It simply won't sell.

[@Goku-pm7rp]

@Shellshock39 from what I saw it didn't start from that. Most people reaction at the PlayStation thing didn't care until they found out who the VA was

[@touchthebacon5447]

Okay, so Ciri just can't through the trial of the grasses....SHE HAS ELDER BLOOD!!! She's already stronger than a normal Witcher because of that alone.

[@DCHPxNAPALMx117]

The witcher 3, at the beginning with the griffin quest. There's a character who is shunned from the village for having a gay relationship with the lords son. If that exact quest came out today people would be screaming woke for days.

[@Matti785]

Also Ciri is bisexual, as written in the books. Wokism has entered forcefully into companies and life in general in these months, if not a couple of years, and people have become half paranoid. I don't blame those who now look at new games with suspicion, but who judges the works and doesn't know the previous game stories, like "The Witcher" in this case

[@GM55_Manilock]

Why is she reminding me so much of Elsie Bray or Exo Stranger from destiny.

[@ncpedersen]

@@Matti785Wasn't the bisexual thing criticized as "a macho-male author's sexual fantasy" when the books came out in the 90'ies? He wrote women as strong powerful mages, and boys/men could only gain a fraction of magical powers by becoming witchers. Ciri isn't even morethan both ...magically above Jennifer, and skillfully trained in the art of swords and monsterslaying. The books aren't really "woke" and def. not feministic, as the women aren't just handed their powers due to their gender, but have to earn it, like the male have ro earn theirs. These days we see alot of the apposite with "toxic feminism" like with Batwoman series, Mulan liveaction version, Cpt. Marvel, which all had their powers just for being born with them or entitled to them due to their gender and need for "revenge on men". I believe this negative trend is why some men react negatively to those stories with "force fed gender-politics agenda", and its all bad for the gender equality in the long term. Maybe Antrej Sapkowsky was actually ahead of his time with the books, OR non-toxic female heroins have already been around (Sarah Connor, Ripley etc.)?...

[@nitrousplayz8826]

Crazy that these people are worried about The Witcher IV being woke because a woman is the protagonist, but they aren't worried that the game will be just as buggy and broken like The Witcher III and Cyberpunk 2077 at launch. Makes a shit ton of sense.

[@N0lukc]

Yep, just the reality of the majority of modern gamers, they are to emotionally and politically charged to care about the actual integrity of the game and instead yell "woke" whenever something makes the upset. It will only get worse as we progress further in the 20s.

[@DanTheReaperMann]

​@N0lukc I think people have forgotten the gameplay is the most important part of a game. If the gameplay isn't fun/doesn't work right dur to bugs, it's very hard to enjoy the story. Story is important, but I've finished games. I didn't like the story, but the gameplay was incredibly fun

[@jackwriter1908]

If the game is shit then they will say it's because the game is woke and if it turns out to be the next masterpiece they will stop calling it woke, so they themself can play it. I have often seen the argument this or that game is woke and it is bad! But the game wasn't bad because a gay character was mentioned or because a woman was a pilot ir something like that, the game was bad because of gameplay, story and shit like that.

[@nitrousplayz8826]

@jackwriter1908 Exactly, and it's the same with movies, shows, anime, comics, etc. Sure, there are times where there are things that are woke and it was a actual problem with the game (Concord is a big example cause why tf is a robot that should be non-binary a he/him but a human male is non-binary? That game was a mess in general), but 98.5% of the time, the game is bad for multitude of actual good reasons like terrible story, characters, gameplay, graphics, etc.

[@Fatalitix3]

You can fix bugs but narrative and plot cannot be fixed after launch. Also they will use another engine for Witcher 4

[@Xoulrath_]

And here I am, as a 47 year old man, still upset that I didn't get to play StarCraft Ghost. 😂 I don't really care who I play as, so long as the game is fun, and that the in-game avatar is a badass. Also, I barely put any time into Witcher III and it's extremely obvious from the very beginning of the game that Ciri was going to be a protagonist at some point. Fricking Geralt is literally TRAINING her for the job!

[@joshhord903]

@@Xoulrath_ all she learned was identifying monsters and sword play. It takes more than that to be a witcher. She doesn't have a strengthened body, or sight. She never took the trial of the grasses and would die if she used potions or decoctions.

[@Xoulrath_]

@joshhord903 yes, yes, you're right. It is literally IMPOSSIBLE for her to have leaned anything else at any other point in time. 🙄

[@joshhord903]

@@Xoulrath_ how can she learn to have a mutated body or eyesight? Tell me that? Sure she could learn spells, and learn potions and decoctions, but the potions and decoctions would kill her, as she has no immunity to them(trial of the grasses). She should be a sorceress with her magical ability, witcher spells are a waste of time for someone with her ability. And without the use of potions or decoctions she would be slaughtered by certain monsters.

[@docop8926]

i like to immerse myself in the game, i cant do that playin as a fem,ale

[@Xoulrath_]

@joshhord903 dude, go crawl back into your basement. Or touch some grass and breath some fresh air. What part of me stating that I barely played Witcher III did you not understand? I don't know anything about the story other than the game showing her early training at the beginning of the game. Maybe give Witcher IV a chance to answer your questions before you shit on the game because it's got a woman as the protagonist.

[@dantethegamer8529]

The only thing is that she drank a potion without undergoing the trial of the grasses

[@vincen367t]

Yeah I don't get people to complain about stuff like this lol

[@TheFLAMEXD]

They're terminally online and have victim complexes.

[@LifewithLuka]

It's amazing how thoughts can be so diverse and lose out on enjoyment. My first thoughts were 'That can't be ciri, she was too old for the grasses' but then finding out it WAS ciri and that she gets to use potions and two swords just makes me excited for the story on how and the awesome things she gets to do with magic! That chain was amazing!

[@JimmyTheGhost16]

Gooner bait 😂😂😂 sums up all the snowflakes crying woke. 😂

[@Somedude72]

Fr the funniest part about them is they call other people sensitive but can’t handle a woman being a protagonist that’s as sensitive as it gets!

[@Lex_Nocturna]

Not really.

[@MetricOwl-tv8zx]

Isn’t this supposed to be polish in culture in which case yea females trying to be boss babe not exactly gonna work.

[@MetricOwl-tv8zx]

Also aren’t you guys the one crying when they don’t have black people in a place that is of European culture.

[@Somedude72]

@@MetricOwl-tv8zx just shut up brother your comment history is just “noooo don’t put women in my game wahhhhh”

[@BelleDreamer7]

I do not care about a male or female lead, I care about the writing. I am hoping the people who drove Henry Cavil from the Netflix show have NOTHING to do with this game. People who abuse IPs for money annoy the crap out of me.

[@TheAuthorgal]

Woke would be if they had to make Geralt and all the male characters completely incompetent and all the female characters flawless heroes held back by the men. Having the child Geralt raised and trained be his successor just sounds like good storytelling. Plus, I thought it wasn’t that women can’t become Witchers so much as the potions they use aren’t compatible with women. So Ciri wouldn’t have some of the physical traits that the Witchers who trained her would have. She’s still a Witcher by training. She’d just have to rely on strengths she has that male Witchers don’t to make up for it. Man! I wish they would have put that in the trailer! (Hint:watch the trailer. She does). Just be calm, wait and see.

[@Sonic7486]

It’s actually crazy cause back when stuff like portal was released nobody cared like yes you can’t really see chell most of the time but still

[@treytavares1727]

Back then they didnt make it the main selling point "This game has a female lead, shes gay, and if you dont like that, you are a sexist bigot and we dont want you playing our game." I dont mind women as the MC. In fact, 99% of gamers dont care. Its about how you present it that matters. Concords marketing was all about how diverse the cast is, very little about the game play. If portal has been released today, it would still sell gangbusters. Because the marketing and story wouldnt focus on "strong woman." It would focus on gameplay and fun. Intergalactic is going to flop because they are focusing on the MC being a woman and anyone who doesnt like that, dont buy it.

[@dylantynes8233]

Same with the new naughty dog game that they announced.. like people are already shitting on it for the main character being a bald woman. People aren’t even giving it a chance before they even to see any gameplay

[@VintageTechNerd]

What are you doing? "Hunting Monsters" "Gods!? There are no gods here!... only monsters!" Like father, like daughter

[@grzesieksgs]

Books NEVER states that kids trained to be witchers were ONLY boys. Sapkowski (author) was asked about it and he said that he "never though of it". Also, Ciri is nowhere to be a "regular" girl. Shes old blood. Shes gonna be way more powerful than Geralt, she already was before.

[@michaparchas5394]

She already more powerful. But for some reason she gonna become mutant (every hate witchers for being mutants) and then she got worst powers than old blood. There is no logic in this. But they dont care about logic.

[@Korkhik]

The first witcher experiments included both boys and girls, however only the boys survived, the subsequent Order of The Witchers would go on to only recruit boys in accordance to 10th century Northern culture where the men would do the fighting. Maybe after some schools like that of the cat would take in girls but that's a maybe.

[@michaparchas5394]

@@Korkhik ciri is not a kid

[@jacobhyde1415]

There's actually nothing in the books or games (that I know of) saying that women can't be witchers, just that they haven't been witchers, probably because of the society that exists in this world. If it's something to do with the trial of the grasses, Ciri's got weird-ass innate magic powers, and Uma survived the trial long enough to turn back into a real boy. She could get through it, especially if the trial was updated by surviving witchers like Geralt to be less deadly.

[@Herr_Gamer]

It’s kinda based on in universe assumption that women wouldn’t make as good witchers as men and it is offhandedly stated all the experiments with girls lead to their deaths - then again, the procedure already had a 1/10 survival rate for boys so it might’ve just been bad luck

[@silverblade357]

​​@@Herr_GamerCiri being a grown adult is a grover threat than her gender. The process straight up requires children on the cusp of puberty. The nature of the developing body or something similar is what allows some to adapt to the metamorphosis. Ciri undergoing the risky mutations also doesn't make much sense when she could go full spellsword or utilize tools and skills adapted from other worlds. Making her function exactly like TW3 Geralt just seems uninspired to me. Still, I reserve the right to be surprised.

[@fastgunnns3881]

While I can't remember where exactly it's stated, I believe it's more because they've tried to make female Witchers, but none of them survived all of the trials. If you want my personal theory as to why they can't, it's probably hormonal differences between men and women. As for why it worked for Uma despite him obviously being f-ed up is because he was subjected to only a partial dosage of the TOG, and even then, to my memory, he still only bearly survives.

[@Herr_Gamer]

@@fastgunnns3881 you should also consider witchers were invented in a time humanity was on the bring of extinction from monsters. It’d be pretty dumb to sacrifice a signifficant portion of the half of the population with the ability to replenish the numbers to make one of them a super soldier. Avallach barely survived, but if he’s still on good terms with Ciri I don’t find it unrealistic he’d be able to modernize the ritual. To my knowledge, the TOG are unchanged from the time of the Conjunction, so it was made with crude magic and maintained that way to avoid anyone pulling a Salamandra and creating an army of effective witcher soldiers

[@dmljr917]

It’s been a very long time since I read the books and haven’t read the ones released post video games. But I believe it was stated that the mutations developed by females were always eventually fatal. It was the reason why Ciri was given the physical training but was forbidden from taking any Witcher potions.

[@the_cringe_nerd]

To be fair, Im just curius how they gonna sell that she got the mutations since that would only have happened after the Witcher 3. So long as it makes since Im fine with it. Also, I wonder if they are gonna take into account the multiple endings of the Witcher 3 or if they just gonna focus on a singular cannon ending.

[@zacharycloutier1]

Well the only ending that makes some kind of sense is the one where Ciri is reported "dead" to the emperor but she works with Geralt as an apprentice (don't remember if she's a full witcher in that ending or not) the other ones wouldn't really work

[@avienis9817]

Friendly reminder that Ciri in the books was described as ugly. Even tho i do not think she is ugly in W4 lol.

[@quill9648]

First of all, nowhere is it stated that only boys can undergo the Trials, only that they don't even know if girls would survive. The Cat's School made female witchers in the past, and given how Lambert was a friend to a few Cats across games and books, maybe they found a way for Ciri to undergo the Trials even as an adult? Even though the books and games follow mainly Geralt, Ciri is the MAIN FOCUS of both, she is the main focus, despite not being the main protagonist. She was in relationships with at least one woman in THE BOOKS, that came out years before the games, and in W3 you can tell that one dude on Skellige that "I prefer women" (i paraphrase) Also you look at a TRAILER appearance, as if Geralt doesn't look WAY FUCKING different than his trailer self....

[@Croft64]

The "GIRLS CAN'T BECOME WITCHERS!!!" argument pisses me off too. These people didn't even read the books. A girl has never survived the Trial of the Grasses before, but Ciri hasn't tried. We don't know the effects it would have on her. She's a child of the elder blood, if anyone can survive, it's her.

[@seanpaulus5124]

Thank you i was just talking about this with my friends and we both agreed i think she realistic could survive the trial of grasses due to the elder blood

[@BKcroatia]

But shes not a child. Also with uma we learned the 1st part of the trial literall, breaks you apart to rebuild you,how tf would that even work with elder blood,which doesnt sound like something that can be broken apart... I hope they dont give some bs explanatiom just to make it work

[@MekeninzoUG]

Sure, but girls can't become witchers

[@Korkhik]

Women have never been seen as witchers but that's fair, still Ciri herself was immune to becoming a dryad after drinking the waters of Brokilon and those are wayyy more potent than whatever can be cooked up with the limited knowledge equipment ciri might have access to as a monster hunter. This is a terrible choice and a massive blunder on CDPR's part her as a protagonist ain't a problem, the problem is making her a witcher out of nowhere with so many conflicting traits.

[@Spiessi92]

Small correction, we do not know if women can become witchers. It was never tried and Triss states that we do not know what would happen, if she would continue with the trial of grasses.

[@juliusnebulus7303]

She would be a fine MC for witcher 4... but only if she's actually mutated and can do the basic witcher things like drink potions without dying because of them being poisonous to her, cast signs (been a big problem for her in the books) and has the witcher senses. If she has all that... cool, she's fine. If not... she's a HORRIBLE protagonist for a game set around witchers, who are litterally known for basically mainly this. (I won't talk about monster knowledge and swordskills because she obviously has them, and that at a nearly flawless point of skill)

[@Spiessi92]

@juliusnebulus7303 Well in the trailer we can see that she drinks potions, so she must have done the mutations and the trial of grasses. She also used signs, at least Quen. I look forward to see how they gonna present a more mature Ciri. She was never my favorite in the books or the game, but I trust CD Project Red.

[@cajunguy6502]

Yeah, humans have a really bad habit of mistaking "there has never been" with "there can never be."

[@juliusnebulus7303]

@Spiessi92 after Cyberpunk... i don't. And the devs of witcher 3 left cd project red aswell. I don't trust them. At all. I have no reason to. And i'm worried they'll try to push dumb and worthless political agendas. If they don't... awesome. But that would require ciri to be a PROPER witcher. The only was she can drink potions is being mutated. And that is only possible by having gone through the trial of grasses. That is the ONLY acceptable reason. Then they will have to find a DAMN GOOD reason why she would even subject herself to that torture to begin with. Why Geralt let her. (And no, Geralt dying is only an explanation for why he "let" her, using that as "motivation" or reason for her doing it is just immensely lazy and horrible writing) do that. Also, how can she use signs? She was stated to not be able to do that when she left caer morhen, to not have trained afterwards... where did she get that training? None of the witcher 3 endings leave ciri in a Position to learn from you. Don't get me wrong, it can be done well, and i really hope so, if it is... i won't complain anymore. But no praise before release. Only skepticism. After Cyberpunk, no trust for CD project red.

[@Spiessi92]

@juliusnebulus7303 A few things, The Witcher was always political in the books and in the game. To suspect a political with this frenchise is weird. The Netflix did not suck because they had a diverse cast, but for the simple reason, that they have butcherd the plot and tried to make it something is simple is not. Second: We know that Ciri was able to use magic when she trained with Yen, but it was harder for her, since she was a Source (I read the books in German, unsure if this is the right translation). The End of The Witcher 3 showed that she used her magic to stop the Wild Hunt and another cataclysm. So she could be a mostly normal human now. Which would allow her to do the trial of grasses and with that also become able to cast signs. Third: We do not know how much time has passed, with Yen and Triss probably still involved, the mutation process of the Witchers could have been improved and made safer, which could be one explanation, but for that we will wait for the release. Fourth: Geralt did relax and could have trained Ciri, he is alive, has time and would most likley help Ciri train. So there are a few endings in which Ciri can become a witcher and also be trained by Geralt. It also seems like that the German Voice Actor of Geralt was contacted and could have a small role in the game. Fith: Yeah Cyberpunk release was bad and it sucked how they treated their staff, but from what I heard they learned and improved and I truly hope that is true. At least they fixed Cyber Punk and it was overall a good game, with a good story. So yeah, we will have to see but I am optimistic.

[@Water_On_Mars]

Dont forget, people were calling Baldur's Gate 3 characters ugly when it came out. Yes, including D Shadowheart. It's all a grift from the notable figures in their community. It's all so stupid.

[@jeremiah5430]

If we're being real here the actual worthwhile criticism is that Ciri is an actual witcher in the trailer, which is neither book canon (she was a great monster hunter but never a witcher) nor even possible in all previously established book/game. The Trial of the Grasses killed all girls, kills 70%+ of boys, and can only even be performed before the subjects come of age..

[@angelcrush3320]

this ! guess you are just a hater now, like the rest with any type of critisism of anything now a days 🎉

[@kyllekongen2852]

Well I mean cd projekt red did say the games weren't "canon" so I assume that's their argument. But with all the stuff you did for her in the Witcher 3 and with Geralt's story pretty much finished, it would be silly not to have her as the main character of the next game.

[@ogurasyn2354]

Per the books, Trial of Grasses technique is lost to time (none of the Witchers know how to do it), so NOONE would be put into them, not only Ciri

[@NiceIndeed]

@@ogurasyn2354 Also according to the games. Vesemir said this himself. She doesn’t have the mutations, she just has the profession of a monster hunter

[@Fatalitix3]

I think her Elder Blood power will allow her to survive