The Wonder Woman Iceberg Explained

I've become numb to the DCEU Wonder Woman theme. Please stop using it every time she shows up on screen.
Background footage:
• Injustice: Gods Among ... - Injustice 1 (NRMgamingHD)
• MORTAL KOMBAT vs DC UN... - Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe (Gamer's Little Playground)
• Justice League Heroes ... - Justice League Heroes (Omega Primus)
• Injustice 2 The Movie ... - Injustice 2 (IGN)
• LEGO BATMAN 3: BEYOND ... - LEGO Batman 3: Beyond Gotham (Gamer's Little Playground)
Info on entries:
• The Cancelled 2006 Won... - Cutshort's video on Joss Whedon's Wonder Woman film
• The CONFUSING HISTORY ... - Casually Comics' video on Donna Troy
ew.com/tv/the-cw-wonder-girl-... & ew.com/tv/wonder-girl-series-... - articles about the cancelled CW Wonder Girl show
web.archive.org/web/201009240... - Bruce Timm explaing why Wonder Woman 2009 2 was cancelled
• What if Ivan Reitman's... - Rinzler the Chosen One's video on Ivan Reitman's film
• The Failed Wonder Woma... - Mr. Sunday Movies' video on the 2011 Wonder Woman pilot
geekculture.co/patty-jenkins-... - article about Amazons film
community.dcuniverseinfinite.... - article about the StarRiders
• Whatever Happened To Y... - Casually Comics' video on Yara Flor
www.cbr.com/justice-society-w... - article about the WW2 Wonder Woman series
www.denofgeek.com/movies/joss... - article about Joss Whedon's Wonder Woman film
www.oafe.net/blog/2017/03/wond... - info on the Xena crossover
web.archive.org/web/201401261... - article about the rejected NBC series
dcanimated.com/WF/sections/ba... - article that talks about the rejected 1994 Wonder Woman animated series
www.un.org/en/messengers-peac... & www.cnn.com/2016/12/13/health... - articles about Wonder Woman being an Ambassador
comicbook.com/movies/news/gal... & variety.com/2023/film/news/ga... - articles about Wonder Woman 3
www.vulture.com/2012/09/cw-is... - article about the CW Amazon show
• Wonder Woman Works At ... - Casually Comics' video on Wonder Woman working in fast food
• Wonder Woman ~ Who's A... - Who's Afraid of Diana Prince
pursepundit.blogspot.com/2010... - Gloria Steinem's opinion on Wonder Woman's redesign
www.native-languages.org/napi... - info on Napi
comicsalliance.com/wonder-wom... - article about Diana's time without powers
www.cbr.com/wonder-woman-june... - article about the Triple Stars
/ i_can_understand_the_h... - reddit thread about Superman x Wonder Woman I took some comments from
• Who is DC Comics "Tang... - New Sage's video on Wanda
00:00 - Intro
01:17 - Tier I: Themyscira
43:18 - Commercial Break 1
44:01 - Tier II: Bana-Mighdall
01:13:39 - Commercial Break 2
1:14:00 - Tier III: Esquecida
1:42:21 - Commercial Break 3
1:42:55 - Tier IV: Gateway City
2:15:19 - Commercial Break 4
2:15:56 - Tier V: Mount Olympus
2:44:08 - Outro
Music (in order then loops)
• Justice League Task Fo... - Justice League Task Force (SNES)
• Justice League Task Fo... - Justice League Task Force (Genesis)

[@Pigpen_YT]

The Donna Troy section has some issues. Notable the backstory I described wasn’t her original backstory or her most recent. Sorry about that, Donna Troy has a very confusing history

[@swandive46]

Even her backstory between New 52 and Rebirth are contradictory.

[@McMahonHater]

That 2009 animated film was garbage.

[@Sgt-Wolf]

Yeah that's torys for you.

[@megaman9393]

Not to be rude, but there actually was a reason that Wonder Woman was just the secretary and not a full time member that wasn’t just sexism. There was this very weird rule for the team, where no one who was the star of their own book could be a “full time member”. That’s why Batman and Superman never made appearances on the team until the Silver Age. WW, however had won a fan poll to be added to the team. Not wanting to break their stupid rule, but also not wanting to disappoint the people who had voted, they made her the secretary instead. (There probably was also some sexism, but it was more complicated than just that.)

[@sosarcastic1]

The DCEU iceberg is gonna go crazy with all of the cut content and deep production history. Truely an era that needs an iceberg to be fully understood

[@mountnstream]

One of the reasons I look forward to it, is because once it comes out, it'll for once be an iceberg covering a franchise that'll be finished, with the release of Aquaman 2 (obviously not counting the DCU since that's a reboot). So there'll be no real worry about topics and information ageing poorly, based on things that are yet to come out, with possible exceptions being new behind-the-scenes information.

[@Person-wz6iy]

Yeah, can't wait to hear it talk about Green Lantern Corps, and the original version of The Batman!

[@stopgivingmeheck]

It’s so disheartening that basically every Wonder Woman media (aside from comics) ended up being cancelled. Tv show after tv show after movie after movie. Mostly either it was pitched but no one picked it up, or a male writer had no direction for the script. I wonder how many cancelled tv shows and movies would’ve came to be if there were women writers or if it was pitched to women.

[@uglynerd8764]

Hopefully the game will give her JUSTICE

[@giosbizarreart9048]

@@uglynerd8764istg if that game bombs imma lose all hope for dc games

[@GLC48]

Now I want to see an alternate universe where Batman was so afraid of bees that he became Beeman instead

[@danielwesley5051]

I’m sure the villain puns would bee great.

[@aaronwentz3190]

Bruce: "OH no, not the bees! Not the bees!"

[@juliagoodwin9510]

Dr Bees?!

[@Mr.Blandito366]

I am vengeance I am the knight! I am beeman!!

[@1wayroad935]

My favorite Wonder Woman redesign is from Dark Nights Metal. I can't believe how good the blue highlights in her hair make her look.

[@NobleRaider2747]

The chainsaw is also metal (heh) as hell

[@jamesesterline]

I am so hyped for the Daredevil iceberg, especially since I haven't been able to find any good icebergs about him and he's my second favorite Marvel hero next to Spider-Man. I'm also hoping you talk about his 70s foe Death-Stalker in that iceberg since I have a weird obsession with him and think he's one of the most underrated Marvel villains despite him being dead since 1979 and he could be a huge threat if he were ever brought back.

[@Wolfblade0]

same

[@liamfrr]

that x-men iceberg also sounding quite succulent

[@Person-wz6iy]

Don't mean to sound demanding, but maybe a Planet of the Apes iceberg?

[@swandive46]

X-Men would be insane@@liamfrr

[@johnathancopson9328]

Glad to see this back up and completing the trinity. Can't wait for the Green Lantern, X-Men, and Hulk icebergs.

[@swandive46]

Really hope he goes into New Guardians' cliffhanger for Green Lanterns. A whole series centered around Kyle Rayner, that ends with him forming a White Lantern Corps... which is never brought up again all these years later.

[@sosakobe1538]

Wonder Girl’s backstory alone is an iceberg lmao.

[@Pigpen_YT]

Was going to have an entry for that but scrapped it because I’m not confident in my ability to explain all the retcons

[@malachibaskette908]

donna troy backstory get messy with each decade

[@sarahh6]

Big comic Wonder Woman fan here, this was awesome to listen to! Thanks for uploading.

[@PosthumanHeresy]

>Do you like Gal Godot's portrayal Well given that the Wonder Woman of the comics would morally oppose her as a human being, no. She's like Ezra Miller for cis women. Even the best possible performance is tainted by the sheer disconnect between actor and character, you can't even pay attention to that. Cosby Show rerun energy.

[@diablok1958]

hit the nail on the head fr

[@TheMaestroMizerous]

*Uses Gal Godot voice* PoosthumanHeresy no!

[@TheKillingJoker1980]

What exactly has she done??

[@PosthumanHeresy]

@@TheKillingJoker1980 IDF Soldier, very pro-Israel obvs.

[@el_diablojoseee1242]

she openly supports the ongoing aparthied/genocide that israel is doing to palestinians and has served in the IDF (israeli defense force) who have been shooting children, r*ping palestinian women, and killing unarmed civilians

[@avgj3859]

Wonder Woman being a guest character in Superman TAS would've made sense, because Lois lane made a snarky remark that mentions Wonder Woman. It obviously made no sense because no one knows who she is. She made her debut on Justice League TAS.

[@theleonpasta7336]

True dat, it really would've helped that line make sense in retrospect, however I really like the fan-theory that the events of the episode "The Savage Time" (or I think thats the name? Sorry it's been a while since I've watched JL) allowed the "myth" of Wonder Woman to exist despite WW herself not leaving the Island until the first episode of Justice League, since in that episode she goes back in time and is seen by soliders during WW2, meaning they could've spread the myth of a "Wonder Woman" allowing for Lois Lanes reference to make sense despite WW herself not being around until way after S:TAS, either that or since the WW Armor existed before she left the idea her Mother secretly was Wonder Woman years/decades before in the history of the DCAU, which is also an interesting/cool explanation imo

[@avgj3859]

@@theleonpasta7336 Those are some interesting theories. They do make sense. That would help tie everything together. I know the animated universe has some inconsistencies and retcons, but that doesn't bother me at all. There were also theories that the Justice League TAS was originally going to be Wonder Woman TAS, because her origin story starts from there. That would've been cool if they have done that. An absolute trinity.

[@ikervega0116]

Finally the king of icebergs is back. And finally delivered the iceberg for the queen of comics

[@Happynix]

Maybe Yara Flor's ability to control water comes by the fact her name may be inspired by "Iara" a Brazilian mermaid goddess. Awesome video, btw :v

[@imafolklorestan]

the overall amount of scrapped and cancelled wonder woman projects is so sad to acknowledge 😔

[@gregorioguerrero1124]

The Word War I setting was in place before Jenkins was hired, you can literally find articles that talk about the setting from back when Michelle MacLaren was directing, and you can find an interview with writer Allan Heinberg about how Snyder decided to go with his take on Wonder Woman, the naive Diana, smaller scale origin story with WWI setting, instead of Snyder's original concept of the Crimean War where she was already battle experienced and was going around several warfronts chasing Ares and recruiting warriors of different cultures, as seen in the image.

[@hardyharharv]

I enjoyed the first two acts of the first Wonder Woman movie but with what you said, man we were robbed 😂

[@SoftboyComics]

I miss when Wonder Woman was made of clay.

[@christownsend7552]

Agreed. Her being yet another child of Zeus is kinda ho-humm.

[@eatsomeoranges8936]

it looks like the writers are intentionally acknowledging the clay origins, there's a scene in worlds finest and the new wonder woman comic that refer to her clay origin but not the zeus one

[@AbsoluteAva]

these superhero icebergs are genuinely my favorite videos, so good

[@dodgerthedudeoriginal]

Hell yeah. Least discussed but great to get people to check out some of the comics and stuff you mention

[@ProjectImpossibleOfficial]

I would love to see you cover a Green Lantern iceberg. GL does not get the respect he deserves.

[@HereticalKitsune]

Now Blue Snowman is a villain after my own heart, snow, genderfluid, I love 'em!

[@bunkets]

DEAD EARTH IS SO COOL Daniel Warren Johnson is my favorite creator in modern comics and I'm so glad he chose Diana over Superman or someone "more marketable" for his Black Label book. High recommend, the art is stellar and the colors by Mike Spicer make it all pop.

[@Cooldoge67]

My favorite part of these is finding out the weird obscure one time villains the heroes have get mentioned and appear in modern comics.

[@jetstar245]

King of icebergs with a princess of themyscira video is a match made in heaven 😤

[@dillmen101]

it’s good seeing this because sometimes wonder woman does not get as much respect as batman and superman, only recently starting with 2017 movie

[@cowboytuba]

Had the iceberg playing during a workout and had to stop and double check when I heard the hololive reference out of the blue. Alongside the excellent information as always, the little extra bits like that add so much personality to your videos in general

[@Kyezoar]

YEAHHH another Pigpen Iceberg!!!! Hyped to listen to this while drawing!

[@Kinzokugia]

Wonder Woman TAS: We were robbed

[@samuelterry6354]

I agree and I'm not even a Wonder Woman fan.

[@deandravilla]

I was worried when I saw your post about the copyright claim so LETS GOOOO!!!

[@JohnDoe______]

Nubia was also supposed to be in multiversus as a skin for Wonder Woman

[@peteartieda58]

Loved the video! I was searching for videos of Wonder Woman's villains and there's a lack of them so this more than make's up for it.

[@DantePD]

God, I love seeing normal people soak into the glorious, batshit insanity of superhero comics. Point of order though, on the Secretary one. Yes, it was super sexist, but at the time, Superman and Batman were also Honorary members. The idea was that the regulars in the book were characters who didn't have their own regular solo book.

[@brunofarias8895]

I think the death of Maxwell Lord and her origin in as the daughter of Zeus were missing from the topics. Still great video!

[@Pigpen_YT]

Yeah I probably should’ve included the Maxwell Lord thing in the video, glad you enjoyed tho!

[@MikeVonwolkenstein]

Love these icebergs you’re making about DC comics. Besides Batman I never really dwelled into DC much. So it’s very fun hearing the wacky stories and events of these hero’s. Awesome video.

[@imafolklorestan]

Considering all the origins for the invisible jet you've mentioned, it seems the DCEU version is the most interesting imo. I recall (i can be wrong) Diana turns the jet invisible via a magical technique she was learning back in Themyscira.

[@mountnstream]

With the upcoming DCU (which I'm very excited for), if they're willing to recast Superman and Batman, I think it'll happen to Wonder Woman (and the rest of the Justice League and other leads) as well. And based on the scrapped Flash ending scene, I wouldn't be surprised if that's their plan. Specifically the version where WW & co. appears, that was vetoed by Gunn & Safran, in favor of the George Clooney one, while leaving the Aquaman one in since he has one more movie left. The cited reason for changing The Flash's ending, and Keaton and Affleck's roles as Batman in The Lost Kingdom being scrapped, was along the lines of not wanting "to promise a movie universe that will not come to fruition, nor tie it down excessively to past failures." When it comes to what I want to happen, I'm admittedly basic when it comes to reboots. Even if there were actors that I liked in a previous version, I much prefer resetting with a clean slate involving new ones, when doing a reboot. To where reprising ones are a treat, or makes sense for what they have planned. (Cena, Davis, Agee and Maridueña in the DCU, J.K. Simmons as J. Jonah Jameson in the MCU, and even Judi Dench as M in Casino Royale.)

[@AC-hj9tv]

Eric André as batman

[@GribbleGob]

basically just replace shit with piss, Gunn sucks almost as much as Zack "hold him tighter he's a fighter" Snyder

[@mountnstream]

@@GribbleGob Which Gunn? I was talking about Anna Gunn.

[@antony3877]

This video just made me want to read the Brave and The Bold Comics. They got all the WW villain glup shittos

[@Mememan9076.]

Thank you, you gave me a damn good chuckle

[@PeskyFiend]

DUDE! I swear every time I’m like! “I need a new pigpen iceberg” and look at ur page to binge the older ones again a new one will pop up !!! Lets gooo

[@ikervega0116]

This makes me even more excited for the upcoming wonder woman game

[@alexmanrique2280]

-Omg I hate Miller - frank or mark? -yes!

[@user-ze9jw8zu2x]

Great Hera! What the heck is the source material for most of those Artemis illustrations? Penthouse magazine? Not that superheroes aren't allowed to be sexy, but there's a difference between poses that are tastefully suggestive and flagrantly raunchy lewdness. That artwork is way too in-your-face for anything outside of the adults-only section, and it pushes salaciousness too far over the line. Where were the DC editors on that one, out to lunch?

[@blotcho84]

Loved this ~ WW is probably my favorite superhero, so I much appreciated the video!

[@CDLCinder]

Can’t express enough how much I love your content. Keep it up man ❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥

[@ponybraddock2144]

wow deja vu seriously tho thanks again for the iceberg they're all so great

[@IrishEyesBlackDragon]

Just watching this now, great iceberg, that one bionicle picture you there in that one segments wants me to see you make a Bionicle iceberg one day, be cool. Cant wait for other icebergs from you in the future, keep up the good work.

[@WhySoSeriouz]

Pigpen with another banger! Thanks for all the hard work!

[@GamerSlyRatchet1]

I love your sheer disgust when you’re talking about Crimson Centipede.

[@ComKid100]

Man its pretty ridiculous how often Wonder Woman almost gets a Film or TV Series only for it to go nowhere.

[@herolumierelumanite1608]

2:14:54 Yes. Yes people will order a crap ton and will pick apart and eat it right there on the front counter.

[@HerbCoswellBornAgain]

Wonder Woman is not only one of the greatest female characters in all of fiction, but also the best female superhero/comicbook character of all time. There, I said it. She's also one of, if not, the hottest.

[@AC-hj9tv]

Would bang 💪 😎 👍

[@ikervega0116]

@@AC-hj9tvi think everyone would without hesitation

[@AC-hj9tv]

@@ikervega0116 consecutively or all at the same time?

[@GribbleGob]

I dunno she's kind of boring to me.

[@chickensandwich9977]

Wonder woman...golden armor??

[@marveler8994]

Should've known a movie written by Joss Whedon would have her do a sensual dance

[@christownsend7552]

The screen play was floating around the internet a while back. It was…not good…

[@tiffany-chan1235]

Oh heck yeah! Been waiting for this!

[@annabaker8137]

I will say this though the fact that the 2009 Wonder Woman animated movie didn't even get a sequel is a crime.

[@mylesscott8074]

Another great iceberg!! Keep posting these great videos! If you tired of voice overs i can do them lol

[@FormalFilmsProductions]

I'd personally would love to see a Deadpool iceberg one day, but i'd love a Daredevil one as well

[@Kade_Kapes]

YYYYEEEEESSSSS

[@2455Phoenix]

Yoo Pigpen! Thank you for the early Christmas present!

[@kroomies]

You do some of my favorite iceburgs and I love the other stuff you do too. Can't wait for more stuff in 2024 especially the x-men one

[@joeywall4657]

When putting together a video containing an absolutely Mammoth amount of information and tidbits, how do you decide the order of presentation for each character or fact? What is your decision making process? Do you try to go chronologically, order of popularity, or what? it's such a daunting task to put all of this stuff together. I appreciate your work and I'm just curious about your process.

[@chalicethemantis]

Given that it's an iceberg format the order is based on obscurity

[@marvelstarwarsfan8410]

Hell yeah! I hope you make a cyborg or teen titans Iceberg one day!

[@Pigpen_YT]

Teen Titans iceberg 100% is happening at some point

[@thatguy3648]

I love your icebergs so baddddd mannnnnnnnn thank you for what you do

[@TohuBohuC]

I'm not a huge fan of the kid killers portrayel of wonder woman tbh, she's kind of a flat actor

[@droga5262]

1:56:24 Thank god this did not happen, screw Joss Whedon

[@Thewisman]

The god is back also will you ever do a green lantern iceberg

[@Person-wz6iy]

#RestoretheWBLegoVerse. Cobie Smulders who voiced her in the Lego Movie, is my favourite version of Wonders. 2:31, 7:06, 12:34, 15:43, 20:51, 25:07, 26:14, 28:52, 32:56, 41:31 TO THE INVISIBLE JET! DANG IT! 44:36, 45:52, 47:03, 49:16, 57:06, 1:05:20, 1:11:43, 1:15:31, 1:19:22, 1:23:10, 1:25:35, 1:44:10, 1:48:01, 1:49:00, 1:53:04, 1:56:22, 2:19:26, 2:33:16.

[@user-bf1gd6uj1w]

@pigpen i wish you and you're family the most merry Christmas, I'm your biggest fan 💗

[@nexusfoxy6842]

God that dolphin bruh XD why

[@vincentkosharek2216]

i had to rewind 1:33:25 so many times just to make sure I was hearing things correctly good joke Pigpen

[@fredricotraversiere8868]

Awesome Wonder Woman iceberg Pigpen great work can you do a Daredevil iceberg and possible Wonder woman iceberg part 2 please 😀😎👍🤘❤

[@Kade_Kapes]

I hate how the top three comments of this video are just people saying they are excited for other icebergs.

[@Pigpen_YT]

People do be excited. But I get what you mean

[@orngcreator6115]

Didn’t expect a Christmas present from Pigpen so early this. Happy (early) Holidays everyone!

[@swandive46]

Please put an entry in for Green Lanterns: New Guardians' ending. Kyle Rayner formed a White Lantern team, yet it has never been picked up by another writer!

[@samuelclayhills3298]

Imagine coming upp with a story that is literaly just 22 pages of sa and then saying lmao just a prank bro. Sure buddy. Best part is dc thinking ya know what 22 pages of rapeing wonder woman with nothing else go for it. Like how did you pitch it with just that scene and they actually think about doing comics man.

[@ikervega0116]

We were so robbed of a wonder woman animated series in the DCAU, thats the best version of the character

[@christownsend7552]

Conor Leslie did a great job as Donna Troy in the Titans series. The writers messed up at the end of season 2 and season 3.

[@mikryan6567]

I love the the 9:00 daughter version trinity

[@michaelbennett5608]

Hyped for a Wonder Woman iceberg!! Greatest female comic book character

[@ikervega0116]

The literal queen of comics, no other female superhero is as famous as her

[@mr.objective8918]

Okay there’s dinner videos for the next 2 weeks

[@animezilla4486]

This is amazing I was wondering can you do an iceberg on The incredible hulk also my favorite Wonder woman villain is giganta

[@FriendlyNeighborhoodGeek99]

I love these so good to listen to very theraputic

[@christownsend7552]

Fantastic video!!

[@davidelle6702]

Here to boost the vid for the algorithm

[@legoking6165]

That canceled Wonder Woman/Xena story sounds eerily similar to an idea for a crossover story I came up with a while back. It was about Gamora of GOTG fame being transported to the DC universe by the Grandmaster. There, she would encounter Wondie and they'd start fighting, but they settle their differences pretty quickly and team up to take down the supervillain Mongul. They even end up swapping costumes at one point in the story!

[@changvasejarik62]

Something missing in the egg-fu section was an interesting and lovecraftian take in the brave in the bold comics. Where he is the last of the elder gods, summoned with Egghead playing the role of the mad cultist manipulated into destroying the world by summoning ygg’phu soggoth. Ridiculous but it’s a take I wouldn’t mind having elaborated on in PG-13+ way.

[@poem5677]

Can't wait for the Daredevil and Green Lantern icebergs

[@nicwinsteadart5330]

Actually had some deleted stuff for Flash: *On a bus advertisement for the Gotham Children's Hospital at the courthouse finale. *Lynda Carter was going to be a brief cameo as WW in a cut scene with Barry racing Dark Flash through universes. *The 2nd version of the original ending with Keaton, Cavill, Calle and Gal all showing up at the courthouse to Barry's shock at the end. I think WW3 was supposed to have Supergirl make an appearance. Would've been cool as Sasha was inspired to be a actor because of her.

[@jakespacepiratee3740]

Why the hell didn’t Snyder include the scene with a Amazonian being mutated into a Parademon before sewer sliding herself to prevent it? That would have looked awesome. He even removed the scene of a ancient human soldier changing into a Parademon during the ancient earth battle.

[@Dewydisco9]

My boy Mountain Dew bot made a cameo, best part of the vid by far!

[@rjhemedes]

Unless I missed it during your 6 Flags commercials bits, last year 6 Flags Magic Mountain opened a Wonder Woman themed roller coaster.

[@bored0886]

The wonder woman full body armor look bad like some generic space uniform... Maybe that's why it didn't stick

[@daboring1]

would you be considering doing an iceberg about dark souls or just fromsoft games in general?

[@ertuio20002]

I like your vids but I think you should do more than just looking up random characters in a wiki. For example, you should have put something about the creator, its relation with the lie detector, how in the golden age ww would lose her powers when tied up and its relation with bdsm.

[@CassiusSharp]

36:17 That’s actually not an evil version of Wonder Woman that’s actually an evil version of Mary Marvel of the Shazam family.

[@HerbCoswellBornAgain]

Also, actually, as bad as Dark Knight Strikes Back was, All-Star Batman and Robin was worse.

[@RoyGuerrero1904]

Do a ultrakill iceberg video

[@jackattacktron1000]

Heck yeah I can’t wait for the Daredevil iceberg he’s awesome. 😎

[@j2174]

Shazam 2, Flash, and Blue Beetle were ALL released after the decision to 'reboot' to the DCU. Birds of Prey, WW84 and Suicide Squad were all COVID 19 films that were also released day-in-date on streaming.

[@spater2692]

We need the Aquaman iceberg!!!

[@bananaking664]

hope we get more alien/cryptid/supernatural based icebergs