The World's Fastest Supermoto is Electric

[@SM-Championship]

You were ripping that thing at round 1 last weekend! Recap video coming tomorrow!

[@racerrr2231]

Now this is a weapon

[@4D_Recovery]

Great content !!! I have a WR450f sumo I love it and the Starg Varg is impressive too 👍

[@adrianm5147]

Thank you for clarifying the origin of Stark Varg. A couple of years ago I mentioned that it was a Spanish company on Asphalt and Rubber and everyone and their grandma proceeded to correct me.

[@csn583]

RIP Alta Motors! Hardly Shavedson has more sins to answer for than just everything they've manufactured in the last 40 years...

[@cntrix2047]

Very well made video!

[@estebannunez8329]

This bike is absolutely a beast I own one and all I can say worth the money just spend 12k and your good

[@sirktm]

Beautiful Bike Man , Amazing Build 👍🏼

[@ragio3335]

why have you cut holes in the "air intake" area? this bike should not need air to power the engine, is it for cooling? if so how do the holes help?

[@MikeonBikes]

The radiator is located there. It is to allow more airflow in the area.

[@ragio3335]

@@MikeonBikes cool, didn't know that

[@proseller420]

did that help with the cut out?​@MikeonBikes

[@MikeonBikes]

@@proseller420 Slightly. Gives me a few more mintes = a couple of laps. I'm working on upgrading the radiator to a bigger one. Or even 2x ones, packaged in the traditional location up front.

[@ecp15]

That Tekmo swing arm on his 450 SMR is sick looking!

[@thomasw5003]

Interesting assessment. What’s the cost of the bike compared to a mainstream 450 cc Supermoto?

[@driftingsm]

Good to see you back Mike. The SMR looks trick, do tell ;)

[@Michaelstanfill]

Is the 109 mph limit because of the motor RPM limiter? If a 38 tooth rear was installed would the bike go 123mph? Is there room for a 16 tooth front sprocket?

[@autohog]

May be the best use case I have seen for the Stark.

[@bendavies6775]

Fantastic to see you back with a bike video 👍 Even if a 458 is the ultimate in 4-wheeled, internal combustive expression, you have to admit little comes close to a V4 mounted between two wheels 😎

[@weekendveterans]

Great video, thanks for sharing. What gearing are you running? I tried 14/40 on mine but it didn’t pull it properly, only got 103mph top speed.

[@garbageman3992]

when the bike overheats is it the motor/esc/liquid cooling system overheating or is it the battery that overheats? if it is the motor/cooling system which i suspect it is then i believe you could swap the stock radiator with a larger one, larger rad fan, and most of all by far, make some sort of air duct system that flows positive pressure air from forward movement through the radiator.

[@maarkkkm]

I would like to now, what is over heating is it the motor or the battery?

[@b45her]

batteries.

[@MikeonBikes]

Don’t know yet, no temperature gauge is available yet. The battery is lukewarm coming off the track, guessing maybe 30-35C. The engine is blazing hot, you can’t even touch it with your hand. Based on this, maybe motor, maybe controller. Will figure it out eventually.

[@maarkkkm]

@@MikeonBikes yea based off all the people I've talked to, the motor is the issue. They really tried to push a lot of power out of a really small motor to save weight.

[@anthonyrains8200]

What model shock are you running with the KTM knuckle? I'm getting ready to build mine out and I have a really nice WP shock setup for SM I'd love to move over?

[@Skull2535]

Adrien Goguet ran the stark in the french supermoto championship last year at villars sous écots and seems like the main issue was traction. There's a short video of it floating around on youtube and a french article on the insane-parts website.The way the electric motor delivers its power it can quickly overwhelm the rear tyre from what I gathered if you're not managing throttle, though I imagine if you had proper acces to the control unit you could tune that in such a way that the power comes on more smoothly even in the full power mode the bike offers. From what I recall they ran the bike in a 55hp setting on tarmac and 35 hp in the dirt to make it work. I can see that thing being a weapon on faster tracks where grip is less of an issue. But trying to put down 80hp on a tighter track with an offroad section where you have to deal with dirty tyres on top pf that things could get dicy quick I think. Nice build nevertheless!

[@MikeonBikes]

It appears stark must have done a lot of work with the power delivery since then. The firmware has been updated a couple of times since then. My bike at 80hp mode is not uncontrollable. Does require more throttle control than on the KTM, but not impossible. Even on tight tracks, with dirt. I have the same laptimes on those tracks with this bike as my KTM 450 SMR.

[@nathanbaeyens2856]

After briefly riding one, the power basically feels like what an absolutely maxed out combustion engine would be capable of, except without any of the cost of that or risk of blowing it up. I guess theoretically its not faster than the best of the best combustion engine bikes, but I do think it's extremely good value and will upset a lot of people that dont have one

[@LB-hv3zl]

Very cool. First thing I thought of when I saw this bike. What is the frontend of of? Espacially the triple clamp because of the steering stop and stuff or did you have to modify this? Is this like common parts like KTM/Husqvarna stuff, also Wheels and Swingarm? You said it's a FS450 Wheel in the back? Would be interested in Details of the conversion, which parts fit and so on.

[@jakaberdajs4378]

This will probably be in my garage in the mext 2 years. Alredy have a SurRon Light Bee for putting in the backcountry arround my farm, and the stark should be my track weapon. Unless i decide i want to ride rallys more.

[@alexchulzhanov]

What gearing (sprockets) do you run for that particular top speed?

[@davidr6386]

Do you reckon the engine brake management is good enough to allow backing in as with shift down on ICE engine? I know sliding has phased out of the riding style nowadays, but for a recreational ride like me (FS450) that is part of the fun 😊 is it feasible on that machine or the Electric dictates a smooth clean riding with no slide on braking phases? (I would slide on throttle no doubts 😂) Thank you for your input! Great video! Greetings from down under!

[@MikeonBikes]

Currently the re-gen braking is not good enough at higher settings, 70%+, to work well for backing it in. The rear starts bouncing or feels choppy when using too much re-gen. Lower settings for re-gen, like 35%, and a lot of rear brake application does the trick though.

[@superdesmo999r]

I'm working on setting up my varg for supermoto, any way you have a breakdown of parts? I currently have an FS450 and a couple of spare Alpina wheels for rains, that I was planning on installing on the bike. it sounds like the rear is just a straight swap, It sounds like the front, however you've completely swapped out. I'd love to learn more (parts list etc) Thanks!

[@NirHason]

You did awesome job with the bike and with providing the info! :)

[@Halpizzy]

The fact that this thing would smoke my built ktm 450 sxf factory edition supermoto is mind boggling to me

[@Dirty24O]

What's the top speed?

[@wimgubbelmans7465]

Damn, very nice bike. How did you get a hold of that sick Front end and what did it cost 😮

[@108Existences]

suspension is stock height or what? stock rear wheel size?

[@jimmyjimjim3054]

Thats cool.

[@nickb9563]

That thing rips

[@davetysdal5442]

DANG!!! How much fully built? $20 grand US?

[@ntme9]

Can you get a headlight and break lt kit?

[@monikapecek7317]

Question... how much rider sag you guys use on a supermoto if you are only doing track with no jumping ???

[@MikeonBikes]

Asphalt only = ~ 65-80 mm. Depends on your specific spring and damper setup.

[@proseller420]

it's only good for a lap or two before overheating. Hopefully, the sm version can comoete

[@duncandehulst2016]

Holy shit, mike still does stuff :D

[@Ang3losM]

When Mike is back, get your pen and paper and get ready to learn some stuff ✌😎 Keep it up pal, as always amazing content!

[@marino4691]

make a street legal version of that and all the 450 race sumo conversions become worthless

[@mathieusynnott8915]

It would be awsome to have a quality video about neutral body position in supermoto, compared to hangoff,and leg out since neutral is the new fashion and i don't understand it very well.

[@downnloadz4483]

What kind of swing arm are you running on your 450 ? the black one..

[@k1ndevil]

Looks like Tecstra to me

[@FarrWestSparky]

That was the best NPC video I've ever seen

[@Mike.Mendes]

I'm a BBQ kind of guy. No microwave for me.

[@LB-hv3zl]

I would be down to ride this. This would allow me to practice close to my home and not having to drive hours every other weekend to practice. Id rather ride often than loud...

[@beauluftenburg3167]

Those forks though

[@REVALERT]

@mikeonbikes where did u disappear?

[@tobymcnicol922]

"It feels lighter in the dirt" does the centre of gravity differ from a 450? ie slightly heavier overall and slightly higher mass centre of the battery pack?

[@philipmarr7325]

I think its the lack of a moving piston, that helps it feel lighter

[@ItsThatMilkshake]

That is wicked fast

[@AdamRogers]

The speed an electric motorcycle or cargoes is simply a function of the battery's discharge capabilities. If you ride hard as a rule, you destroy batteries. Are they faster. For a minute. Then they catch fire. Or the battery goes dead. They are not ready.

[@Szlejer]

Great, unbiased information as usual! Thanks!

[@1sir-onworld]

🐝🏁Great video 👍 thanks for sharing I like riding my SUR-RON EBIKE it's so fun to ride 👌

[@JoeBordok]

Sounds like a vacuum cleaner

[@DumbledoreMcCracken]

In for the outro

[@larrrevenga49]

Amazing ✊

[@enduro_j]

I’m jealous

[@PBJ-pl1bu]

How fast could this thing actually go with the right gearing ?

[@duncandehulst2016]

I am really bothered by the orange front wheel and black rear xD

[@creativechoice-dq9wz]

people just need light frame with good geometry

[@My_Cents]

Why don't we've uneven diameters in tyres ❓️

[@frostygonz]

So happy you posted again dude! Been wondering about your supermoto build?

[@MemphisMG86]

i don't understand the last “tip”. why shouldn't this be a TRAINING bike? yes ok just limit it to 60ps as mentioned in the video then you just ride in 60ps mode (apart from the fact that the torque is still higher than that of a 60ps combustion engine). and thus learn to ride CLEAN if you want to be faster. alternatively you can also test with 65-70ps how long the cooling can take it and maybe in +/- 30min that is enough to get the moped cool enough for the next training turn. as you said, 60ps can apparently last in your racepace, so there's nothing to be said against a training mode!

[@SupermotoCentral]

Can't wait to ride one😮

[@NorthStarFooligan]

Only 85 mph top speed on mine.

[@MikeonBikes]

Sprocket, wheel and tires on the bike?

[@NorthStarFooligan]

​@@MikeonBikesstock gearing and tires. 18" rear wheel. 80hp. I have a top speed short on my channel.

[@MikeonBikes]

You have to change out your sprockets to get more top speed. The knobbies are also not helping with top speed; more rolling resistance.

[@pinoyvienna]

Cool!!!

[@ChadOHara98]

Mike, your bike looks so awesome! Great video. Hope all is well.

[@DavidTysdal]

Woooo Hooo!!

[@CrisURace]

It's nice but get rid of these dirty and heavy batteries. The engines are amazing, batteries are just horrendous.

[@8180634]

Compare today's batteries to batteries from only 20 years ago. It's not perfect yet, but improvements are coming steadily.

[@ip_dynamo_v2495]

bra svengelska

[@desertrider325]

How much money you have in that bike? $$$$$$

[@lionelcarnel9642]

fastest in the early twentyth minutes and then, you need to charge

[@2StrokeMichael]

U can’t compare bikes with more hp and no it wouldn’t be fair for 60hp to race 80 hp

[@karollo1619]

60 hp gas bikes are faster on sm track😉 Almost every rider make better lap times on conventional bike.

[@radrcer]

Price is the issue.

[@jimi1943]

Its just a bit more than a 450 exc

[@SpaceRanger187]

looks like cgi.. send me the bike and then I will believe its real

[@chonglers1513]

Its true thats why bugattis dont exist bc i dont own one

[@leonardterlevic4765]

Can't wait until someone invents lighter batteries

[@ydkma]

Husqvarna 701 begs to differ

[@CornerBalanced]

what are you even talking about you're comparing a 350lbs street bike to a 450 equivalent race bike 🤦‍♂

[@ydkma]

@@CornerBalanced enjoy going 30 miles before you have to charge

[@CornerBalanced]

@@ydkma not the point, the gas equivalent of this is a 450 not a slow heavy ass 701. Read up and learn more before you speak so confidently

[@ydkma]

@@CornerBalanced 322lbs wet is heavy for you? 0 to 60 in 3.6 with a top speed of 120mph on a dirtbike isn't fast? You should read up before you speak so confidently. What a douchebag.

[@blakebikess]

oh yea...AND NO BACKING IT IN

[@s.l.6736]

6m sins last video ? i understand.. when using electric vehicles you just lose the passion to talk about it... ( unless tesla fanboys)

[@Motorbikes950]

I will never go to an electric motorbike, regardless if it's faster or not. It takes away half of the excitment for me.

[@MikeonBikes]

That’s all good; neither 2-strokes or 4-strokes will magically disappear because electric bikes are now highly competitive. It will take even longer before electric bikes become really mainstream and all top shelf racing will be electric. I’m guesstimating 5-10 years for that to happen. Electric does have the major benefit of allowing tracks in the middle of big cities, indoors and in people’s backyards with the neighbors not complaining.

[@guyonthecouch136]

How would you know the level of excitement, if you would never go to an electric bike?

[@Motorbikes950]

@@guyonthecouch136 Because i tried an electric bike, and yes the acceleration is impressive and the bike didn't feel as heavy as i expected it. But gets a bit boring once you get used to acceleration of the bike, i miss shifting gears, using the clutch and hearing the sound of an engine. And at least for me it was a lot more fun to back it in with the clutch and shifting gears. I had that experience with an electric bike, and it was ok but nothing special. So i am quite sure i will never go back to an electric bike.

[@guyonthecouch136]

@@Motorbikes950 fair enough, who am I judge. I just get annoyed with people that hate them without even trying them. It doesn't mean I want one instead of my either of my yz's but like having all 3

[@philipmarr7325]

For offroad riding the silent factor cant be overstated. I like my UltraBee, but I still have some ICE bikes

[@somenygaard]

As battery technology advances the gap between ICE and electric is only going to grow. There is a lot of growing room as far as battery technology goes.

[@darianballard2074]

LOL 690 KTM smc-R will go way way faster. I've had mine up to 135 and I bet in a rolling start the 690 would be faster even though it weighs more because it would be easier to keep the front down. Even on the heavier 690 its really hard to keep the front down if you're into the gas. Also good luck filling up if you take it off the track and take it on the road.... Junk.

[@topgopnik]

sxv 550 is faster

[@silverlw1]

I have respect for all your other videos but this electric is utterly poo.... I dont give a fuck about a bike i can ride hard for 15 minutes.

[@WBD86]

Love your content, but i skip this one

[@darianballard2074]

Its NOT the fastest NEVER mind the worlds fastest.

[@frankonorway]

He states that it accelerates from 0 - 60mph in 3.1 seconds. HIs kTM 450 SMR can only do it in 3.5 seconds (which is impressive!!) Do you know of any supermoto out there that is faster than this 0-60 time?

[@darianballard2074]

@@frankonorway Okay bro... Its crap... He also said it does over 100 and it only goes 86MPH....

[@darianballard2074]

@@frankonorway I will race him any day with my bike

[@darianballard2074]

@@frankonorway This bike would smoke his ass so long as the person riding can hold the front down. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eIS3enqZfp6Fmtk

[@gasgas8752]

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