The World's Finest Sidelock. 100 Years Old, Still Kicking.

History, overview, and test fire of the American L.C. Smith Sidelock Shotgun.
For a very detailed video on the internals, here's a link to a video I could never match.
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Ft. my new intro. please let me know what you think about it in the comments section.
Thanks.

[@sammylacks4937]

I've yet to see a LC Smith double. I just saw my second Parker last week. I'm 65. I know of them.and how solid and long lasting they are. Nothing or very few items are built like that today. The Parker was a 10 ga made early with Damascus barrel and the first and only double I've seen in a gun store display in quite a while. British makers still produce fine double shotguns and rifles but our best was those makers and Fox. Tnx.

[@mdmace8690]

My “Elsie” was 102 years old on August 9, 2023 according to to the LC SMITH COLLECTORS ASSOCIATION research. It is a rock sold Field Grade 12 gauge, with 32” inch side-by-side barrels, and auto ejectors(extra $12 upgrade in 1921). I’m positive my great grandfather was smiling from Heaven when I shot it last month.

[@sammylacks4937]

A treasure for sure

[@WilliamSirman]

In your introduction, you are seen as replacing the forearm of your L.C. Smith shotgun by applying pressure to the forward end of your splinter forearm. Doing so will put pressure on the forearm forward of the supportive internal (And the furthest distance from the fulcrum) fore end iron's supportive steel structure. applying pressure (Palm of the hand) further back slowly, between the screws roughly. Will help alleviate the stress that sometimes cause the splinter fore ends to crack, or prematurely come loose! Pushing on the tip, increases the length of the lever as it were, which eventually could crack the wood, or eventually snap it like a twig! This secret was revealed to me, by a wise old (Passed on) gunsmith, who had many of these old doubles come across his workbench many years ago, during the heyday of the "American Double Guns!" From a physics point of view... It makes sense! God Bless... Bill P.S. The Forend Spring is not supposed to flop around, it should have a "Spring" that keeps it in the down position until the forearm is replaced. Great Video as well!

[@Redlegwar]

Cool video! Thanks for the information. I just bought an LC Smith 12ga. Cool piece of history.

[@user-ho4nw5sf3w]

I have always loved the looks of both L.C.Smith and Colt hammerless. Didn't and don't want to deal with the age of the Colt and never seemed to get up the money for a Smith so I settled for a 1925 Crescent 60 Empire Hammerless. Not quite as refined as a L.C.Smith top be sure. Still I was lucky my shot gun has about 99 + finish blue and color case. I've only started shooting it with 1-3/4 mini shot shells. There nice. I'm 74 they don't kick you around as much and there effective out to the distance that I can see.

[@DeimosPC]

Just watched a few of your videos, and subbed. Keep the content coming.

[@revolverguy]

Thanks, I appreciate it

[@ZackWalker-oe2nl]

Haters will hate loved the video man keep up the good work diffently liked learning about the history of it an seeing it shoot

[@revolverguy]

Thanks man. I spent quite a few hours on the History of this one because she's special to me. Glad you enjoyed it.

[@tomhman6441]

Most gun folks know the history of our shotgun companies. Baker went on to be a successful gun maker. The Baker shotguns were well made and affordable. Baler sold out to Fulton and got into auto parts. These guys were business men as were other gun manufacturers of the time.

[@MegaRiffraff]

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[@robbylock1741]

If looks like you have a featherweight model, if so it will say Fw in front of the serial number on the table. I have one in 16 Ga as well.

[@revolverguy]

I believe it is.

[@revolverguy]

I just double checked and yes, it's an FW

[@schutendohkji548]

When did LC Smith start putting "Hunter Arms" on the gun?

[@revolverguy]

I'm not entirely sure. There's a great Facebook group for L.C. Smith enthusiasts, those folks probably know. I do know that they were sold to hunter arms in 1886 but I don't know if they started marking them as such right away.

[@schutendohkji548]

@@revolverguy OK. Thx 4 ur reply. I'll chk around.

[@davewinter2688]

Smith sold the rights to the entire L.C. Smith line to Hunter Arms Company of Fulton N.Y. in 1889. Hunter built the L.C. Smith models until 1945 when Marlin obtained the line. L.C. Smith did not put “Hunter Arms” on the guns. Just the opposite. Hunter also made a cheap plain box lock gun called The Fulton at the same time they we’re building the L.C. Smith line. I have a O grade model full armor steel built in 1905. The only difference between the O grade, OO grades and the field grade is that the O and OO did not have any checkering. Marlin bought the line in 1945 it was pretty much all down hill for various reasons from that time on.

[@schutendohkji548]

@@davewinter2688 My Lili Marlene (or My Elsie Marlin) by Lale Andersen: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j5u7dGeEZq2LnJI DaveW - Thx 4 ur answer. Unlike ur Oh, or Oh ohs**, my LC though also was born after the war, she's beautifully forged. One of my more knowledgeable friends said she's called a Marlin Elsie. I don't c any quality degradation at least from the outside as with the metal to wood joints are very closely fit, engraving is fine, and the bluing n case hardening r also fine. Mine is an Ideal Grande n she must of bn a Closet Princess. She still wears that transparent Varnish dress though that dress has fine lines of cracks on her rear skirt (buttstock). Thus, the skirt looks like it's made of a fine lace of envies amongst her ladies of attendance! Her lips (triggers) r crisp, light ~5lbs, no creeps though her lower lip is a bit pouty. N, her two legged bbl action shuts very very tight (No joke please). She's just beautiful. Haven't asked her to do her maiden duty, i.e., for her to answer me when i commence my protocol call, "PULL" yet as i know, she'll kick me hard w her two legged 12 bore w those tight lips of hers, the bottom one always being pouty. Wie einst Elsie Marlin, Wie EIST Elsie Marline!!!! And let her compete w my Kat-U-Shot (Катюша) rocket launcher, an ancestor to our HiMars: kzbin.info/www/bejne/joaapmyen69krcU Hope above similes brought u on how we treat our beloved slim sporting treasures... __________ **O n OO sounds like a Brit's compromised Oh-Scale n HO (= Half Zero, nut Half Oh as in O Alphabet, but No. Zero actually) scale model RR equipment where bc. their actual prototype locos n cars r small despite the World standard Gauge (nut shotgun Ga) of 4' 8 1/2" in contrast to their continental Europeeeen's and much much shmaller dan the US RR prototypes on the same Std Ga. Thus, their model though indicates Zero Scale, it's 1/43 scale vs. the US's 1/48th scale, which is 1/4" per foot. On the other hand, any RR ga. less than the standard ga is called a Narrow ga. Like 2'Ga of Lynton & Barnstaple RR of UK or the 3'Ga of Durango & SilverTown-WashingTown DC (DirectCurrent) RR. If the track Ga is > 4' 8.5", then it's called a Broad (Woman) Ga, like the home of Катюша's 5' Ga. little HIMARS: kzbin.info/www/bejne/joaapmyen69krcU

[@sinsinsss5216]

Koe teko telat ngrti dewe.

[@sinsinsss5216]

Aku yo moh melu pemikirane cino duso tok

[@philt5782]

Finest! Although a nice gun, it's not a 9 pin side lock it's a back lock side lock and certainly not the worlds finest. James Purdey would be wetting himself if he heard that.

[@tacfoley4443]

So would half a dozen other London and Edinburgh gunmakers....

[@ericschulze5641]

The Baker is a better design

[@sinsinsss5216]

Mending koe rausah ganggu aku

[@revolverguy]

Saya Hanya Bercakap.

[@bessiebraveheart]

Hello from England. It looks a cheap gun.

[@revolverguy]

It is their "field" grade. But the internals were as fine as any high end shotgun. The higher models had jeweled internals like a fine watch.

[@robbylock1741]

Hi John, yes it's a Field Grade, for an example of their top end (or Best) google LC Smith Crown Grade Shotgun, they typically go for around $20,000 as of the time of this post.

[@Pooperazzi]

I have a 1908 field grade 12 ga Elsie and it's anything but a cheap gun. The blueing is worn completely away but it's tight at the day it was made after uncounted firings in the woods and fields. There is something special about a gun like that, showing loving use for many years

[@ericschulze5641]

They don't even compare to British side by sides I have an lc Smith, it doesn't even come close in quality to my WC Scott or my JP claybrough, or my Hollis ,there's dozens of more British side by sides that are way better, don't even bring Holland and Holland into the mix there's NO comparison, you are 100%correct sir

[@tacfoley4443]

@@robbylock1741 And the Purdey equivalent goes for around five times that much.

[@joemurray6586]

LC Smith is not a side lock, bad vidio.. and a junk gun compared to the best guns, not even on the list

[@revolverguy]

Yes it is. Most definitely a Sidelock. Lol

[@robbylock1741]

Do some research! You have no clue as to what you are talking about Joe. Top end LC Smith guns such as their Crown grade typically go for around $20,000 or more as of the time of this post. The difference between a Field Grade and a Crown Grade is the level of embellishment, the internals are the same. While well worn, that is NOT a "junk" gun.

[@bobs.5990]

I own quite a few LC Smiths, and they are definitely a side lock, and certainly not junk.

[@MegaRiffraff]

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