The World's Most Bizarre Drug Market | The War on Drugs

From poaching endangered shellfish to smoking quaaludes, this is the wild origin story of how meth took over South Africa.
The use of meth, known as Tik, has skyrocketed across South Africa. It's thought that the country might have one of the highest per-capita rates of crystal meth use on earth.
But the wildest twist in the tale is that this may have been ultimately caused by a secret weapons program run by the old apartheid regime itself.
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00:00 Intro
00:55 What is Tik?
04:54 The Smokable Quaalude
06:44 Project Coast
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[@cbryce9243]

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[@commentcraftsman]

​@@cbryce9243 😂😂

[@jodymahoneyfromillinois]

So very sad 😔

[@LaurieValdez-zk3dy]

It looks scary as all😢

[@morseemily]

Psychedelics are just an exceptional mental health breakthrough. It's quite fascinating how effective they are against depression and anxiety. Saved my life.

[@APOLLINAIREBARTHOLOMIEU]

Can you help with the reliable source I would really appreciate it. Many people talk about mushrooms and psychedelics but nobody talks about where to get them. Very hard to get a reliable source here in Australia. Really need!

[@Jennifer-bw7ku]

Yes, dr.sporessss I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD and addiction and Mushrooms definitely made a huge huge difference to why am clean today.

[@IkamiLog]

I wish they were readily available in my place. Microdosing was my next plan of care for my husband. He is 59 & has so many mental health issues plus probable CTE & a TBI that left him in a coma 8 days. It's too late now I had to get a TPO as he's 6'6 300+ pound homicidal maniac. He's constantly talking about killing someone. He's violent. Anyone reading this Familiar w/ BPD know if it is common for an obsession with violence.

[@APOLLINAIREBARTHOLOMIEU]

Is he on instagram?

[@Jennifer-bw7ku]

Yes he is. dr.sporessss

[@CristiandlfDeval]

I started doing drugs since my teenage, got addicted to cocaine. Spent my whole life fighting cocaine addiction. I suffered severe depression and mental disorder. Not until my wife recommended me to psilocybin mushrooms treatment. Psilocybin treatment saved my life honestly. 6 years totally clean. Much respect to mother nature the great magic shrooms.

[@nicholda436]

Congrats on your recovery. Most persons never realizes psilocybin can be used as a miracle medication to save lives. Years back i wrote an entire essay about psychedelics. they saved you from death bud, lets be honest here.

[@FredaMartins]

Ive done shrooms last month in my house. It taught me how severely traumatized I was from alcohol. I healed from many mental traumas from my past and was able to forgive, let go. Shrooms to me is a remedy not a vice. I even felt more refreshed the morning after. So no hangovers. No depression mood for days. No anxiety.I now have a more calm mind

[@RobertaSandra-no3dy]

How do i find him? Is he on instgram

[@Raymo64106]

Yes he's Dr.benfungi. Shrooms to me is a natrual healer. I know a guy who has used mushrooms in the same way and they have really helped him. mah dudes have safe trips all.

[@samhenry75]

I wish they were readily available in my place. Microdosing was my next plan of care for my husband. He is 59 & has so many mental health issues plus probable CTE & a TBI that left him in a coma 8 days. It's too late now I had to get a TPO as he's 6'6 300+ pound homicidal maniac. He's constantly talking about killing someone. He's violent. Anyone reading this Familiar w/ BPD know if it is common for an obsession with violence.

[@b.l.o.c.k.6648]

So incredibly gut wrenching hearing Hamilton tell the guy with the blood in his urine that it’s known to cause bladder cancer 😞

[@alex.104]

Ngl it's kind of deserved if he is making the drugs that are fucking up people's lives.

[@ilikelittlejimmys]

@@alex.104 he's most likely just cooking it up for himself. It's cheaper that way.

[@MrPaparabit]

@@alex.104 highly recommend watching that episode of Hamiltons Pharmacopeia before you judge him. yes the drug he is cooking kills but please know what you are talking about before you talk about it. their economic and educational situation are large factors into his decision.

[@DingleTerry]

@@alex.104 People that produce/supply drugs shouldn't have consequences like these..it's the person buying the drug that wants it afterall..These drug dealers are just giving the people what they want, and clearly if you want meth you are a low life so the client buying is just as scummy as whose selling

[@yeahokay3806]

@@alex.104 Very childish take

[@emperorofpluto]

Used to take Mandrax and Quaaludes a lot in my teens and 20s (I'm 54) and tbh methaqualone is infinitely more pleasurable than alcohol. Not hard to see why they were so popular - you'd get this warm, euphoric relaxation - like being drunk but without the unpleasant effects of drunkenness. They lasted maybe four to six hours with no hangover. Mandrax was the trade name for Quaalude in the UK, South Africa, Australia, Asia. After Methaqualone was banned there was Doriden, (Glutetimide) which had the exact same effects but was banned by the late 1980s. Nowadays the closest thing is probably GHB, which feels very similar (except GHB makes people a lot hornier than Quaaludes ever did) Interesting origin story: Quaalude was developed to allow doctors in wartime to get short periods of sleep but to be able to function if they had to be woken up, which was not remotely possible with barbiturates, chloral hydrate, or bromides - the other sleep drugs around at the time.

[@RAJohnson713]

Can you still buy real Mandrax in SA?

[@stephenc4755]

@@RAJohnson713 no not usually 90 percent is faked

[@stephenc4755]

@@RAJohnson713 and if its faked it can have terrible by products of making methaqualone

[@Sniperboy5551]

Quaaludes are definitely on my to-do list… now I guess I just gotta go to SA

[@shadowX9365]

im 22 and i agree theyre great i use to do like 1200mg at atime !! seconal was my fav tho

[@neoncore7346]

that one guy realizing he had bladder cancer in real time was insane

[@florenciovillarreal6736]

The way dude told him showed his privilege he must think, "oh he can just go get it checked out and the docs will treat it"

[@florenciovillarreal6736]

Sad tbh he will prob go out like that

[@cherishireland9194]

These people are so desperate to make money they kill themselves, the planet and the neighborhood to do it. It's sad there isn't more love out there and public education and funding for these people to find their purpose.

[@commonflip1474]

Damn that's just from the fumes crazy

[@giftoflife365]

He thought it was methenvitamin

[@rayslife4k]

Today I found a bag of meth after two years of being sober. I was holding onto that baggie for two hours, and then I threw it out the window. I’m getting more strong minded. Can’t believe I didn’t smoke that free man I did good.

[@corvoattano4777]

bingo dude. You are extremely strong i wish you all the best in your struggle against meth

[@dogmosatchmo]

Definitely did good. I'm rooting for you man!!!

[@saturn1returns]

Well done champion!

[@rayslife4k]

Omg thank u guys

[@chino3796]

Dude, that is amazing! Mark this day as one where you didn't even get in the ring with your enemy. Just walked away like a boss.

[@GoblinatingGoblinator]

Was so happy to see Hamilton back even for just an instant, I'll keep waiting to see more from him, literally the only reason I check on vice every now and then.

[@suezcontours6653]

The West is working overtime to dismantle South Africa right now because of the Russia CHina military drill. Not so subtle at all

[@hanktrill]

SAME

[@oliverhorgs2298]

@PascualFrancisco Hamilton quit working for vice. He has a KZbin channel and a patreon podcast where he's been regularly uploading

[@GoblinatingGoblinator]

@@oliverhorgs2298 oh thank you, didn't know this info

[@oliverhorgs2298]

@@GoblinatingGoblinator no worries man :) it's all great stuff hamilton's been hitting his stride lately

[@etumelengmogale6561]

As a South African I can confirm that this is very accurate. Also, there is a drug, which I believe is unique to South Africa, called Nyaope. This drug is ravaging our youth and it has spred like wildfire

[@benygames7399]

Nah I’m pretty like 99% sure that the drug is a mixture between heroin and some other things and is usually smoked

[@trod5902]

Nyaope is low grade heroin mixed with other drugs

[@mustymk4754]

Tik is chowing way more people here than Nyaope bru

[@benygames7399]

@@mustymk4754 define chowing

[@disvet-1ad291]

@@trod5902 nyaope is a mixture of heroin and dagga of which has effects on the physiological and psychological being of individuals taking or using the drug.

[@the501legion2]

Vice goes crazy with these

[@dontjudge1358]

It says there are 3 replies but I only see your comment huh???

[@lassaut6794]

@@dontjudge1358 jooto0b keeping the szensor ship afloat.

[@LilBurpee]

That moment when the guy said that he didn't know it caused bladder cancer was heartbreaking 💔

[@PranaChi369]

Should assume it does something to something in your body

[@DogMemes86]

Thank you guys, thats what im waiting for. Great work!

[@ghostly265]

Drugs are the easiest escape from reality which is the sad world we live in

[@samsonsoturian6013]

So's murder

[@cameronsweirdnaturechannel]

@@samsonsoturian6013 lol no

[@a.k.3659]

So, haven't you heard of antidepressants?

[@samsonsoturian6013]

@@a.k.3659 uppers and anti-depressants are the same

[@woodjamin]

@@a.k.3659 thats literally drugs

[@ssylbi]

Im 20yrs of meth user from malaysia but now im already stop taking or using any drugs. Nomore to Meth😌

[@LoveFitsAll]

Congratulating you. Used to tweak also

[@epicpika11]

Quitter 🧡💜

[@LoveFitsAll]

@@epicpika11 hell yeah

[@alexisaguirre6349]

Good job bro. I wish you well on your journey. 🙏

[@tonyaparrish5678]

Congrats me to 3 years no drugs now

[@WolfgangKaiser-if2wr]

I remember several years ago I suffered from severe depression and mental disorder. I was addicted to illicit pills, alcohol, and smoking until I was recommended for psilocybin mushroom treatment. Psilocybin treatment saved my life honestly I'm 8 years clean now. It's quite fascinating how effective they are against anxiety and depression.

[@halllauren8879]

To be honest, mushrooms are one of the most amazing things on the planet and it is natural, they serve in many ways not only for mental related issues.

[@Francesca-hm1yb]

Can you help me with a reliable source I would really appreciate it. Many people talk about mushrooms and psychedelics but nobody talks about where to get them. It is very hard to get a reliable source here in New Zealand. Really need!

[@GordanaRadulovic-ci4jt]

Yes, Sporeville. I had the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD, and addiction... Mushrooms definitely made a huge difference to why I'm clean today.

[@KathrineKassandra]

I wish they were readily available in my place. Microdosing was my next plan of care for my husband. He's 59 & has many mental health issues plus probably CTE & a TBI that left him in a coma 8 days. It's too late now I had to get a TPO as he's 6'6 300+ pound homicidal maniac. He's constantly talking about killing someone. He's violent. Anyone reading this Familiar w/ BPD knows if it is common for an obsession with violence.

[@Francesca-hm1yb]

Is he on Instagram?

[@Estorium]

As a South African, the presenter's pronunciation of Wouter Basson and Tik is hilarious.

[@Ash-to1gp]

So funny

[@OGxLOOYxDANK]

so funny

[@hikikomori7]

Ja, to hear Abalone pronounced correctly several times throughout the video and then butcher it with abaloney is beyond me 🤣

[@volk779]

Who runs South Africa organized crime scene? Serious crime groups there??

[@foxinafrica]

and 'abaloney'

[@MadMrMatter]

Dude, Hamilton is a. DAWG. chilling in those south African trap houses lmao

[@user-dz1rc4wk2t]

TRAP HOUSE?

[@keagantrowe8475]

As a South African, worth highlighting that “Dr Death” was in 2021 still practicing medicine in Cape Town, South Africa.

[@orasohum]

I have a friend who's now severely addicted to meth. I've seen him fall deeper & deeper and he's become such a consistent liar, all for the love of the drug. I've had to cut contact with him after 10 years of friendship because he tried to get me involved with it as well. He's lost all respect & I just know his story is not going to end well.

[@kiwismurf4536]

no one loves the drug, they become trapped and addicted and need it to be normal and thats were the issues start

[@helloimclaudio]

Try it before you judge, you might like it

[@Thomk121]

Hopefully your friend can pull through. I was a heroin addict for 15 years. Been sober for 1 year now. There is hope for your friend. Maybe try and reach out and ask if he wants help every once and a while. Rehabs are everywhere, and most are free if you have govt insurance.

[@colindixon9916]

Don't turn ur back on them completely....make rules, red lines etc, but always leave a bit of hope with them. It could save their lives 🙏🤔🙏

[@Ryan88881]

@Will Rivers Normal people want average speed (amphetamine), not methamphetamine.

[@TheMrFishnDucks]

Super informative video. Keep up the good work.

[@KaleighMacKay]

Wow, you know it’s a bad deal when ur getting paid in drugs not money.

[@mosadon8130]

Thats what im saying kinda like here in the u.s our government distributes and crowd controls drugs here as well

[@MSL72]

Check out Kensington, PA… also Phoenix, AZ… same thing. Basically free 😢

[@miner2119]

They would rather get paid in drugs. They make way more money off it than just straight-up currency

[@notsoberoveranalyzer8264]

@@mosadon8130 To a certain degree. Not sure if you’ve ever gotten the opportunity to travel or if you’ve lived elsewhere. But sadly, it’s not really that controlled by the government as much as id wish it to be so. ( As, at least then there would be some answers, something to blame as well as an easy fix.) I bring up being out of country, purely because it tends to give a better perspective.

[@Ryan88881]

That's not how that works... Getting paid in drugs almost ALWAYS means both the person with the drugs and the person getting them are getting a better deal out of it. Getting paid in drugs is always the better deal.

[@kimsherlock8969]

Thank you for your time to inform me.

[@WallyTony]

Thanks Vice. By the end of this I was looking up tickets to go try to ludes.

[@rustynuts89836]

I stupidly tried meth. Snorted it never smoked it. And I'm happy it never took control of me. It's been about 8 years since that sad day

[@basilbyers5066]

Well, some of the Beatles wrote their best songs while on meth and a different formulation of it is prescribed and used to treat ADHD (and, for many, is super successful in doing so) So, while meth can and often does ruin lives, it has its uses and it can be used safely/more safely than is shown

[@xxz1434]

@@basilbyers5066 Meth doesn't destroy lives, lack of self control does. Unfortunately most people lack it which makes meth dangerous.

[@levymoyer507]

@@basilbyers5066 you should be able to figure out the difference between amphetamine salts and methamphetamine. No one treats ADHD with methamphetamine. There's a brand name methamphetamine tablet called Desoxyn which is rare and mainly prescribed for narcolepsy. Changing a molecule on a chain to create an entirely different compound is not a "different formulation." That being said, ADHD meds are also not to be trifled with and have led more than one person (hand raised) to eventually try meth.

[@seanthe100]

I ate meth for year, I smoked it first but for some reason I never got high did it a few times and nothing. Eating it was wild and awesome, I stopped doing it because I moved and it's been three years, snorting it burns like hell

[@ianskeeyap6482]

@@xxz1434 👏👏👏 Thats the real truth understanding, whatever drug they call, coke, meth, blah blah blaahhh... Its Basic Simple .. . You can take/used but dont abuse it!!! ☺️☺️☺️

[@adamo3561]

Did meth once. Took me 12 years to completely get off it. What a trip

[@chino3796]

Several years ago I did crack for several weeks. I got sick of it and found it easy to quit. Like a relief not doing it or being involved with those people.

[@jaycou7126]

​@@chino3796 was on Rocks for a period. Definitely the worst days of my life. Glad you quit.

[@tommysherman7155]

That's because crack is not physically addictive it's just phycological addictive. No withdrawal symptoms whatsoever on crack

[@jaycou7126]

@@tommysherman7155 that drug was very hard to get off. The psychological part kicks in within 15 mins of your first hit. Here in SA they call it eat some more, cos 1 bite gets you coming back for more. 0 to street in 1 month cos the money goes straight to the crack pipe. Chino was fortunate, depending on how deeply addicted a person is ultimately dictates what the addicts behaviour might be such as what they are prepared to do to get their fix, or not. Never take your eye off a crackhead lol, peoples belongings tend to grow legs around them.

[@tommysherman7155]

Not only is it not physically addictive just phycological addictive it's the only drug with no medicinal purposes as well. Weed for pain, mood, anxiety and depression, amphetamine for ADHD, Ecstasy LSD and magic mushrooms for anxiety and depression, ketamine for local anaesthetic before an operation and heroin/opioids is found in absolutely every hospital pharmacy in the world for pain, including quality of life pain and end of life care. Crack/cocaine has got no medical purposes whatsoever and is not physically addictive and has got zero withdrawal symptoms

[@martelindbergsli9779]

Wow this situation and the history needs more attention!

[@nadiahopekruger]

Thankyou. This is the best short yet supervpowerful documentary on RSA meth and mandy history and details that I've ever seen. Thankyou for your courage.

[@suezcontours6653]

Why cheer this on? White people are confused as to why Africans don't trust them. This is the reason why. You love drama, China doesn't.

[@Kdramahotgist]

☝️☝️🍫🍫🍫🍫🍫🍫🍫🍫🍫🍫🍫🍫💉💉💉💉💉💉🌿🍄🍄🍄🍄💊💊💊💊💊💊💊

[@bookofmillions]

Thank you, VICE! Very useful as always

[@blakesimon5318]

@Mycotenn_

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On Instagram and Telegram

[@Liss1122]

I bet there is a lot of half built motors and rock collections there in South Africa.

[@bungaloboynes]

Thanks vice this is not a new problem it's about time people started talking about it

[@joeledwards6587]

As a south african, I can confirm this is prolific. There is a huge drug market here, khat, mdma, coke, rocks, mandrax etc etc. Its hectic

[@Louthsk8er]

I might holiday there to try the mandrax. hell id try the meth aswell

[@mustymk4754]

By khat you mean ket? As in ketamine? 😂

[@steve-uc2mf]

@@mustymk4754its some obsure drug look it up

[@tonyaparrish5678]

I've done meth it's only fun a bit then takes away all you love...adderall in high doses feel close to meth but if you go up remember you must come down. That part sucks

[@hh-ck6ko]

Khat is barely a drug, it's basically like coffee, a mild stimulant. Try it if you can, it's really nice. Now cathinone derivatives are another beast entirely, chemically similar to it, but much much stronger stuff, usually labeled as "bath salts". Stay away from those if you can!

[@emperorofpluto]

This insanity is the direct result of the war on drugs. Awesome video, outstanding journalism and it's always a pleasure to hear the wisdom of Hamilton Morris. Keep fighting the good fight.

[@NoleInJax]

Lol you really think there is a war on drugs and not a war to control the drug trade?

[@emperorofpluto]

@@NoleInJax*"The War on Drugs" is official government policy that began under Richard Nixon and is still going on today. The only thing prohibition does is turn illegal drugs into profitable commodities, entrench police corruption and enrich organised crime*

[@Sideshowmanatee]

You must have missed the part about the Chinese exploiting poor South African fisherman…

[@volk779]

@@Sideshowmanatee what you mean?

[@shawnclifton7196]

Only white people exploit just ask one of our multimillionaire nigs

[@javiermartinezjr8849]

As soon as I see a broken beer bottle as a chillum I already know we're headed To south Africa lol

[@grmpEqweer]

Thanks for the new vocabulary word. 😳

[@TWOhype23]

@@grmpEqweer chillum? That’s a type of glass pipe

[@grmpEqweer]

@@TWOhype23 Yeah. Google told me. I'm sort of glad I didn't know.

[@javiermartinezjr8849]

@@JJONNYREPP man I wish I remember his name,he was a German or Dutch scientist working for the apartheid government ,this man was a literal genius,well classified documents were leaked by an assistant or something along those lines,it completely outlays his thesis hypothesis and the changes of his plans. He talks about how in cattle and animals the there are chemicals spread or I'n prisons mixed into the food to create more docile humans or animals ,there test lvls would be an low, he wanted to find something like that for the water table ,government heard about his work and the steamrolled what would be now a billion dollars for him to come up with a poplar substance and or multiples that would render not the next but the babies of the next not prone to riot,and when or if they did,there bodies would be emaciated from lack of vitamins and drug abuse, it wanted a drug that would attack the nervous and the muscular system,the best drug suited for this was mandrax,basically a qualude, but one mandrax would be three to as much as ten times the amount of a legal qualude at the time and the difference is these could be smoked and or meant to be snorted Mandrax was first used and disguised as tear gas but to many people died from subsequent gassing governments got suspicious,they scrapped the program,but it runoroured that the scientist was alegedly incetivised by old apartheid political members in other countries or from the bush ,and the Chinese who provide chemicals for ir in exchange for wildlife seafood and ivory,rhino horn,hide,metals diamond etc,hell even weopans trade has flowed because of it It's really Nazi esque reading a government stamped textbook on how to subdue and litteraly said mentally and socially castrate a group of youth by there choice subconsciously trough some sort of contamination ,and the guy who was behind it or was paid arguably just to do his job ethical that's all relative imo but he is still alive he was going to be prosecuted at hague but that went away,you should look into it my brohter

[@TWOhype23]

@@grmpEqweer lol why? Afraid of a lil knowledge are ya?

[@HighWindSailing]

My favorite series on Vice.

[@KimTulipFinlay]

Totally missed this episode.

[@supersophisticated9943]

The bladder cancer bit was super worrying..

[@josephhall5884]

If there is a connection with shellfish and narcotics that's crazy. No wonder Red Lobster stays crowded.

[@vitumbikoliomba]

Yay! He's back.

[@aptorres01]

Great video

[@petergambier]

What's so tragic is that the natural products like the shellfish and the plants will be over fished and collected until it's gone, and when it's gone, it's gone and won't be coming back. Also good was showing the clip of Hamilton telling the drug cook about his possible bladder cancer.

[@brianj6701]

Hamilton Morris did a great piece on this as well. Very well done.

[@aemeromedia]

good post! 💪

[@wahid3837]

Yay Cape Town my home. Love the vice content lately

[@slimlinedigitalmedia]

A lot of videos about South Africa on Vice the last few weeks. Even though they might show the bad things happening here, we are still a wonderful country with a lot of good people.

[@Estorium]

06:33 This is actually quite scary. It is easier to move drugs across borders than money. It makes sense, but is scary nonetheless.

[@vansoffthewall4763]

rainy day out here in Central VA.. i needed something to watch , so i choose ViCE! been awhile since ive watched ViCE 🤙🏾✌🏾❤️

[@dietergen]

Can't wait to try it

[@ParkBills]

I suffered the borderline disorder for over 23 years. With so much anxietyNot until I came across psilocybin mushrooms treatmentPsilocybin treatment actually saved my life honestly. 6 years totally clean. Never thought I would be saying this about mushrooms

[@BillySnyder-eq2he]

Microdosing helped me get out of the pit of my worst depressive episode, a three year long episodeenough to start working on my mental health

[@lucyjoseph7062]

Can you help with the reliable source I would really appreciate itMany people talk about mushrooms and psychedelics but nobody talks about where to get them. Very hard to get a reliable source here in Germany. Really need

[@maryjohnny9920]

Dr.raymycolx is your guy. Best shrooms and psychedelics guy I know

[@acostasantiago3340]

they saved you from death bud, lets be honest here. and mushrooms are one of the most amazing things on this planet i wish people would all realize. they could solve a lot of problems, more than just mental treatments, environmental clean up; the possibilities are endless with fungus

[@brendanfisher9686]

How do I reach out to him? Is he on insta

[@durpledorekapre3991]

Almost 3 years clean off meth

[@kentneumann5209]

You'll be back. Otherwise that time wouldn't mean anything to you. And this video wouldn't have you clicking on it. It would be insignificant to you. Just remember to moderate, don't slam it, preferably eat it, and do regularly timed dosages. Like a doctor's script. 15 mg 3x a day worked for me. But that was Desoxyn. Street meth is a little more tricky to regulate dosage, but its doable. But, if you can't moderate, (you CAN, you're just not applying yourself) then I guess a lifetime without it is your lot. And you will have to go to a shrink and get properly diagnosed for the undiagnosed ADHD you have, and get a legal script for the much less effective Adderall or Vyvanse, etc. (Hold out for Desoxyn) But don't get your hopes up. Settle for modafinil. You'll be fine.

[@durpledorekapre3991]

@@kentneumann5209 im almost a year off of alcohol too i have a choice to not do it again and i wont. Not sure if you're trying to be helpful or not. I know what im doing I dont need any guidance

[@xObscureMars]

9:35 Way to burst this guy's denial Hamilton. What do you think he is going to run to the local hospital and get that fixed?

[@Euphorb1um]

This is such a good premise for a tv series.

[@turbolife5912]

Love the do bro

[@chadmcbride173]

As someone from South Africa that's been following the War on Drugs since the Krocodil episode, You should do a follow-up episode on one of the newer drugs in South Africa, everybody calls it Nyaope(Nee-yaa-oo-peh). It's like a cocktail drug of other drugs and a bunch of detergents and stuffs.

[@Happy_Spatula]

Apparently it's low grade heroin mixed with a selection of other drugs

[@CarlBland-cv5zo]

Spice

[@ClassWarVeteran]

The only difference between the users in this story and suburban Xanax and adderall moms is mommy’s sense of superiority.

[@samsonsoturian6013]

That's an interesting stereotype. BTW, Lebanon, Palestinians, and other Arab countries are the big abusers of prescription pills with a distinct preference for anti-anxiety medicine.

[@sbs3003ses]

Whaaaa

[@280SE]

What a load of bollocks 😂

[@BiancaBeauty690]

Ones an up ones a down big difference

[@stehenbranton5447]

💯Well said

[@childoftruth1738]

SA took a play out of the iac book in south California and crack. This was a a great vid

[@Parker55ful]

The parallels with this and the Iran contra scandal are scary

[@AliveBoldTV]

Visiting South Africa really took my understanding of how crazy the world is to a whole other level.

[@suezcontours6653]

So why all these narratives about South Africa right before the Russia China military drill? Trying to turn us into Libya, I see?

[@volk779]

Who runs South Africa organized crime scene? Serious crime groups there??

[@nonofogaborone6640]

Please expand

[@CantThinkofaCoolOne]

Tell us more.

[@towhitby1]

Yes the difference between a racist and a non racist is about 2 weeks in South Africa..

[@mattgraver3604]

We need more documentaries on SA crime and drugs

[@flaplaya]

I was ready to watch 45 more minutes deeper into this rabbit hole

[@zadekeys2194]

As a South African, I've known about mandrax for many many years, but I never it was so similar to Quaaludes! Very interesting!!

[@Kdramahotgist]

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[@joshua22267]

It's not similar. It is quaaludes. The only difference with mandrax is that they added diphenhydramine. Does anybody pop the mandrax down there or just smoke it. Why not pop it? I would rather get a 4-6 hr buzz compared to a 10min super high

[@Kaola730]

As a South African, I can confirm that Crystal Meth use has increased recently. During the past 5 years I have witnessed a lot of people in my neighborhood using it and it's destroying our community. 😭

[@Bro-dr3ou]

Every neighborhood

[@chino3796]

It's in the USA now too.

[@catloverfurever00]

Sorry to hear this. Together with crime and economic problems it must be an absolute nightmare.

[@BackEndFredo]

@@chino3796 been in the USA for a long long time lol

[@why67152]

Welcome to America!!

[@wendigofeast]

I did not expect to see my home country in a video about shellfish and meth Also fun fact someone in my street got arrested for selling poached abalones. also had a dude in my school go to rehab because he was addicted to mandrax. This video is like a weird depressing nostalgia.

[@suezcontours6653]

Duh, China and Russia are doing drills in SA. Time for some scandals

[@thesaints-7-andrew.]

Watching from Greece.hi everybody. Very interesting video.

[@-_-lmapo3388]

Shout out to the shell fish

[@Erik_The_Viking]

We have a lot of abalone poaching here along the California coast, which is often by Vietamese and Thai divers.

[@kentneumann5209]

Them little brown brothers are hooked up!

[@SerchhipChelsea]

Interesante. 👍🏻

[@jamaljames2578]

Always watching from Georgetown Guyana south America 🇬🇾🇬🇾🇬🇾🇬🇾🇬🇾

[@bornenit309]

I miss when vice used to go out and film, rather than talk over old footage.

[@grmpEqweer]

They have reporters in the field for different stories.

[@knightyyknight1494]

Budget cuts Disney sold them out.

[@spicysalsaking791]

They've nearly gone bankrupt from what I've heard. They're looking for new buyers/backers as we speak.

[@jacobs.4647]

Did I hear that correctly?.. VEGAN METH? 🤣🤣🤣

[@lastcrazyhorn]

I was thinking “organic meth.”

[@fractionoflight4495]

Vegan Crack Head😐

[@BrentMettert]

W VICE, for covering topics that other channels won't touch !!!

[@maltehjorth9426]

I really like this dude

[@IamAvni]

I love this series, this was another informative video but since you mentioned the gray area market of precursors from China, why not making a video digging deeper into that topic? Also another topic: why is Europe getting more and more shipments of very cheap and very potent ketamine in solid form (crystals) and the liquid medical grade ketamine is not as easy to come as in the past? Those are both topics that deserve to be investigated deeper, people want to know! :) Im sure it would make for two amazing videos

[@x8n42xb67n]

Ketamine now comes from China more often than not, the potent stuff around is usually research chemicals (2-FCDK, DCK, MXP etc etc). There are no liquid vials really anymore because India clamped down on it.

[@constantlylearnandgrow3487]

liquid ketamine is nothing else than solved ketamine crystals in a solvent. if you have it as a liquid it takes up a multitude of the space of just pure crystals and is therefore harder and more expensive to smuggle. Also the medicinal bottles are fragile and hard to transport in big quantity.

[@kokokat584]

Didn't know Quaaludes were still around, need to acquire some

[@Sjalabais]

I've never heard anyone say "this is where the story gets even more wild" in a more disenfranchised, unbothered voice.

[@sonsofkojimarip]

The clips that Vice used for this episode talking about Mandrax and with Hamilton Morris was an episode about Quaalude use in South Africa, not methamphetamine

[@AvinashSewpersadh]

Hamilton's Pharmacopoeia

[@sonsofkojimarip]

@@AvinashSewpersadh in my honest opinion that show is his magnum opus thus far. You gotta love the guy!

[@emilesimons]

Although mentioned this was noy about Methamphetamine or Mandrax, its about the DRUG MARKET in South Africa where Tik and buttons is most commonly used

[@oliverhorgs2298]

@@emilesimons even so. All of the clips and interviews were from a years old documentary done by Hamilton purely on methaqualone/mandrax/qualuudes. None of the information was new or on the drug they were focusing on. Kinda a shitty way to inform people

[@sn1000k]

@@oliverhorgs2298 very strange. Vice is struggling obviously

[@ClassWarVeteran]

It’s such a methy job that Mike Row won’t even touch it

[@TheRealKlinky]

🤣🤣🤣...excellent!👏👏👏👏

[@michaelmorgan6674]

really interesting

[@luisamaury4644]

Guy fell like thriller lol 😂

[@cursedfella]

Very interesting, and also quite shocking. I'm used to these type of news and documents, as may many others but it still gets hard to watch sometimes. I wish these people get help. People use drugs but nobody chooses addiction.

[@suzyqualcast6269]

If twas all uncomplicated and legal still, everywhere there'd be no problems addiction, eah to ones own and it would still be but someone's little habit.

[@AstrixCloud]

That shellfish must have had some pretty good pearls on it lol

[@sativva420]

Intrresting video

[@brandonnevarez8417]

I was hesitant about the mexican roll in nigeria but it makes since cuz in liberia they were smoking specific black tar heroin in interview and explained the nigerians were bringing it in

[@iyiolaabosede9500]

Nope drugs were brought into Liberia through the war that happened there sa were selling drugs to children soldiers in the serria leaons war as well

[@PiggyFuktoy]

GAWD I loved quaaludes !!! Just made one feel like everything was right in the world 👍🏼

[@avo616]

NON NARCOTIC NON ADDICTING. Could do with a couple lemons now!

[@iammuscular4326]

9:34 guy is really worried about his bladder

[@ebaymangedpayments]

For the last 20 years I've been saying the same..even been sent to prison because of magic mushrooms and no one believed me.

[@wolfcat1998]

Sounds like the apartide took a page from the CIA playbook.

[@zoutewand]

It's apartheid, apart means seperate heid and means something like the dom in kingdom

[@samsonsoturian6013]

Shut up. Get drafted

[@EricK-ig4ko]

It’s probably so stepped on it’s ridiculous

[@Seabass1206]

it’s crystal, its not a super expensive drug especially there with less regulation

[@northerners2828]

My favorite CM..

[@josephsmith6777]

During project coast they also developed a fentanyl aerosol for crowd control

[@Bgoods8]

Do shellfish have shell corporations?

[@wolfcat1998]

They branch out on the drug coral-tels. I hate myself.

[@electriceyeball]

Have a friend who, in mid ‘00, spent a lot of time in first Amsterdam, where he did so much of what he called “Thai meth” that his heart now works at a small fraction of what it should. Apparently, that’s how he ended up in South Africa, by way of Asian meth in Amsterdam. He caught an infection in South Africa off the tik and mandrix and his arm swelled 4x its size and he had to be flown to a U.S. ICU for weeks to save his life. Don’t do Asian meth, and don’t go to South Africa and maybe Amsterdam you’ve been warned

[@EvilTaco]

Been to Amsterdam just a few weeks ago and can definitely recommend. No meth tho

[@Jaapst]

I’m born in Amsterdam and lived here my whole life no meth here. Only in gay scene maybe but it’s nothing so small

[@user-bq4xc2yy3m]

dont go to amsterdam? first ive heard of that 😂

[@okalsdi]

I like your new hairstyle, it looks very good on you!

[@rgzhaffie]

Counterinsurgency doctrine has gone hand in hand with organized crime since even before the Cold War. The famous radical Tamil journalist Sivaram deeply researched and wrote about this for years. Check out the excellent biography, "Learning Politics from Sivaram", by Mark Whitaker. Also see Cockburn and St Clair's history of CIA covert operations, "Whiteout", and Alfred McCoy's magnum opus, "Politics of Heroin in Southeast Asia", among others on this subject.

[@mallsorts9775]

Selling meth to a shellfish is well selfish

[@anthonyluisi7096]

Good pun ! Touché 😂

[@amodernalchemist432]

As a Canadian, I wish our news networks would provide this type of info. At the very least, they could have reports such as these in the late night news programs, so kids and adolescents are not seeing them. I mean, War clips are on news programs ffs. Which is likely why there is soo much murders, mass shootings and other violent crimes nowadays. People are shown violence in the news day in and day out since the 90's, operation Desert Storm, first time live action war was televised. Before that we only seen recorded clips or documentaries...

[@patrickquine3945]

As a Canadian, we have some of the best news networks out there. And we also have one of the safest countries in the world, mass shootings are very very rare..

[@dontjudge1358]

@@patrickquine3945 what about stabbings ???

[@patrickquine3945]

@@dontjudge1358 Also very rare. We have one of the safest countries in the world.

[@volk779]

@@patrickquine3945 compared to SA Canada is safe asf

[@lassaut6794]

@@patrickquine3945 bud, you cant tell me cbc and city tv are any where near "the best news networks out there".

[@Tallnifisent]

Damn this is so accurate wow

[@diceone8411]

Once I took qualude coming off of meth.... For the comedown... NEVER DO THIS.... I almost died ☠️ one of the trippiest suckiest expériences ever. I felt like I was being thrown against the walls & slammed on the floor, randomly. Seriously, it was crazy AF 🤯

[@dontjudge1358]

I'm glad you made it

[@Kdramahotgist]

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[@357CLOUDY]

Sounds awful. Glad you're allright.

[@Stxxbo]

Guys, South Africa is a more of a movie than anything else. No two days are ever the same down here in the southern most parks of the African continent.

[@mattgraver3604]

Ziyabuya eSouth Ah 😭

[@flowmastaent]

Also the whitest part of Africa go figure

[@volk779]

Seems like south africa is tough

[@hospagalief]

@@volk779 tough as nails. Why u keep asking about crime groups, extremely diverse country, literally mafias from every corner of the world

[@In_and_ouTs]

He said quaaludes make you feel dreamy, lol. I’ve lost whole days back when I was takin the Lemmon 714’s in the 1990’s.

[@paulrash8861]

Abalone is excellent, no joke