The World That Never Was - Exploration & Details - Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix

[@trial_with_an_error9687]

I really wish they let us explore more the Dark City before we reached the castle. It would have made the castle that much more imposing to travel towards. A looming, almost pristine alien tower constantly watching over you as traverse the seemingly abandoned streets of a dark, dirty city you clearly aren't welcome in.

[@jbcatz5]

Maybe could have had like the Luxord fight in the city proper, since the Roxas fight isn’t introduced until the Final Mix.

[@MrDeloty]

Top Five band names based on WTNW. 1.Hall of Empty Melodies 2.Nothings Call 3.Altar of Naught 4.Havocs Divide 5.Brink of Despair What a lineup 🖤 Its not even ironical. Genuinely great band names.

[@DyxoXinoro]

>"Oh boy, Sora and Riku's keyblades are touching. Better give them some privacy." >Ad starts playing

[@redmur5180]

I was reading your comment as it was happening 😂

[@apathy2454]

woooow Riku being in the way is reminding me how much I actually like his KH2 design he looks so bad ass

[@heli0centric]

IKR? I couldn't help but feel like his KH3 design was a huge downgrade in comparison. Awful hair and clothes that were kind of dorky looking but lacked the charm of his older outfits.

[@Atlas92936]

@@heli0centric extreme downgrade for Sora,Riku, and Kairi. Kairi especially. Everyone looked more mature in kh2.

[@camharkness]

I continue to be the only person who likes the kh3 designs.

[@apathy2454]

@@camharkness I really like their kh3 designs too it’s just that KH2 Riku hits different for me

[@camharkness]

@@apathy2454 that's fair

[@thatoneguy4452]

I remember hearing a theory years ago that Memory's Skyscraper acts as a fake heart for the world in the same way that Nobodies use memories in place of a heart.

[@EyeBeZombie]

My theory is that it's a nobody version of a world that already exists when a world succumbs to darkness a nobody version is made and after playing kh3 when you beat yozora I believe it could be shibuya. Though this is just theory and it's probably just the nobody world and nothing more but it'd be cool if it was

[@SkimoStories]

@@EyeBeZombie hey man Nomura has done crazier shit. you literally cannot be wrong in guessing when it comes to this series. I personally think Quadratum is the world of Square Enix, hence the name "quadra". I haven't followed all of the lore super closely, but what if the FF characters are somehow from the world of fiction, similar to Yozora? I am aware that it's implied that their worlds fell to darkness in kh1, and they wound up in traverse town that way, but my point is that no theory is too crazy for this series. Who would have ever guessed that Roxas looks like Ventus because ventus' heart went to hide in young sora's, and when sora became a heartless in kh1, his nobody would be a shell of Ven's body, but sora's heart. Like, holy cow. When kh2fm was out but BBS hadn't been announced, We used to think Aqua and Terra were Sora's parents, and that Ven was Roxas just because? we had no better explanation

[@Chocc_Ice]

Every area sounds like the name of an emo kid's blog, and I respect that

[@PunishedPrince]

We as a society need to embrace the fact that emo names are in fact very cool

[@malcolmotoole]

No wonder Kingdom Hearts was so popular in 2006.

[@crazyfire9470]

@ Malcolm O'Toole what?

[@Chocc_Ice]

@@crazyfire9470 Found the zoomer

[@aeondolphin]

Now I can’t unsee it.

[@xenothekami888]

Sometimes i just sit here, like cavern of remembrance, just to vibe

[@Shoop400]

Looking at the world that never was I always thought that the City and Castle were not created at the same time. The large crater and contrast between the two's visual design really sell this. Plus there was the fact that back on the ps2 kh2 the dark city always had Heartless down there as opposed to FM where there were nobodies after you entered the castle.

[@MrDeloty]

With you on that theory :)

[@RebelliousTreecko]

The actual explorable parts of KH maps are incredibly far away from eachother in some cases, such as the expansive field between the LoD Checkpoint and Imperial City, and you can see it again here with Memory's Skyscraper and the mountain that is climbed off screen in order to get to Brink of Despair. If I had control over the design, I'd have put in at least two more maps between: another flatter area stopping at the mountain's base, and a vertical area, going up stairs and building ledges as you see the lower city behind you. There's also the white corridor stretching between Nothing's Call and Crooked Ascension, and who know how many sets of 90-dregree stairs Sora had to climb to get from Twilight's View to Hall of Empty Melodies. - I never liked how the puddles in the other city areas were drier and didn't show reflections. Perhaps copying the map models to fake them in those areas were taxing on performance. - When it comes to the Kingdom Heart's perspective, if something is large and very far away from something else, viewing the smaller thing up close will make the larger distant thing seem smaller in comparison. That what they might have been trying to convey. - Hall of Empty Melodies also has the inaccessible balcony and doorway which Kairi ends up on and also Pete and Maleficent. While it can seen in a positive light, showing that there is more to the world and showing expansion, seeing it in a game, and especially in a castle where you can see no other inaccessible doorways, it only invite curiosity and questions as to why it can't be explored. - In Havoc's Divide, while you can see Naught's Approach in the main tower off to the side there is some other part of the tower that has more detail that the others, like balconies and indents in the walls, as if it was an area of its own, despite that you can never reach there. Made me curious. (only noticed when looking at the 3D map model) -Another comparison with EotW and TWtNW that could be made is that the fight with Ansem starts out as a normal "human boss" type of fight, but then grows into fighting a massive elaborate monster involving a new gameplay style. Xemnas is the opposite with his continuous final fights: he starts out with the three dragon ship battles, and eventually you end up with a calmer two-on-one duel.

[@NovayonKH]

Yeah I thought about the moon like that but it still doesn't make sense to me, the discrepancy seems too much

[@cillbipher2613]

My favorite thing about the Altar of Naught is that it's essentially a reference to Devil May Cry 3. The layout is nearly identical to the top of the Temen-Ni-Gru, complete with a moon being up close and the final boss of the game waiting for you, Xemnas taking the place of Vergil.

[@chain_of_nothing]

10:34 Damn, so that's what happens whenever we close the game while in this world.

[@adamraserovaquera]

3:50 that happened because nobody was driving it

[@Zondac]

My friend told me during recess that if you push the truck back by running into it for long enough, you'll find Mew under it

[@CocoHikari583]

What does Nova do when he is tired? He Novayawns.

[@MrDeloty]

And sometimes he goes for a relaxing cruise on his Novayacht 😎

[@NovayonKH]

I wish

[@NickyLaurienzo]

Yessss one of the best KH original worlds 🤩 can’t wait to watch this one!

[@xragxgg8099]

This world has my favorite soundtracks great for pondering existence while falling asleep

[@smellyisopod]

Everyone's favorite location, the Naughty Skyway!

[@linkthastink]

Fuck yea bro! Always love new content from you. Anytime I get a notification, i click! Thanks for the dope KH content keep it up brother

[@Atlas92936]

I clicked this so fast, I love these videos. And your narration is always something to look forward to. Thanks for making this Novayon

[@MysTeri0usMatT7]

World That never Was is basically in many undisclosed cryptic and mysterious ways the negatively polarized realm of twilight town or perhaps someone in Traverse Town managed to open an extremely well hidden gateway to a secret domain where a portal to both places are accessible but only at a specific time, similar to Fable remember the demon doors.

[@jbcatz5]

The City That Never Was is all the more intriguing for what’s never revealed or divulged. A city implies a population and this one isn’t in a state of disrepair. Maybe the Dusks live there, re-enacting aspects of their Somebody lives. The purpose it holds for the Organisation is never explored either, perhaps it served as a weak point Nobodies could use to access the world proper from the World That Never Was, people capable of becoming Nobodies manifesting as illusions or ghosts or something.

[@bradhedgehog12]

11:20 Geezum....heck of a high view from there. And it’s like your in space from there. Maybe idk

[@KHloreExpert]

5:41 That does have a strong resemblance to an area in DDD.

[@jackbrownio3]

Love your Vids Novayon! You’re the true King of Kingdom Hearts 💪

[@enderwinner8411]

My favorite world EVER !

[@slateoffate9812]

The star and lines next to it on the Memory Skyscraper remind me of Starlight's Higher Upgrades

[@danieltinsleykhvsff9622]

Its nothing compared to the end of the world but i still like it.

[@justbobby7820]

Ba dum tshh

[@TheLazySage7]

I really enjoy these man! And yes! The Truck! Is mew under it? hahaha....

[@Shayanzass]

Have u ever considered looking at the maps as a whole? Like out of bounds of what we can normally see, so we can get a better idea of how the whole world is meant to be. regardless, nice video

[@BloodGriffan]

I dont know any jokes about the truck. But I like this level. The city intrested me the most

[@jeremywright9511]

My favorite world in the series. Just wish the city segment was more expansive.

[@tryashtar]

Huh, I didn't notice that the moon changes to look destroyed from everywhere you see it after that one cutscene. I guess that makes sense

[@meevil24]

When I was younger, I wondered if people lived in the Dark City

[@Blah3210]

Examining the crashed truck in Memory's Skyscraper causes the game to mention "denizens of the dark". Cryptic - like everything else in this world - but the implication is that people lived there at some point. Some sort of cataclysmic event must have happened in the past to wipe out the city's population (possibly related to that massive crater the castle hovers over). For all we know the Heartless we see in the city _are_ the former residents.

[@crazyfire9470]

Scary thought

[@user-eu8qe8fe7x]

@@Blah3210 That could be, the organization basically turns people into heartless so Roxas can take them down and collect the hearts to create kingdom hearts. Imagine Xemnas just teleporting in the middle of the city and starts turning people into heartless until no one is left. Terrifying I know.

[@nota13xx]

This is the best part of any game ever

[@StarSalt]

I love this place so much ❤😥😥 I'vwe been looking forward to this video

[@beolikespoo]

This world brings out my inner emo

[@caroljeeben7064]

The things I would do to be able to explore each room in KH2 out of bounds.. especially this one.

[@NovayonKH]

Well there's the noclip website if that's what you're after

[@windyyawshi9166]

Hey I was at the end of this stream I was watching byo on twitch and saw you live

[@MegaSpideyman]

What World Exploration do you think you'll do next? Or do you think you'll stop here? Either way, love your WE vids especially and look forward to more, especially any for Scala ad Caelum and The Final World. Or The Carribean or Toy Box!

[@oluvids]

This is actually pretty interesting! Got my sub!

[@samflood5631]

I actually like the World that Never Was due to it being both a cross between a more modern city, a technologically advanced castle and other worldly. The soundtrack itself gives the feel that I’ve entered in another world that’s different from that one I’m in. The Castle itself has this cybernetic feel like I’ve set foot in another world. Again, the ideal premise of how a final dungeon of both an RPG and JRPG should be, something dark and other worldly with a haunting theme. Plus I had much more of a fun time with the final boss fight than I did with the final boss of Kingdom Hearts 1, especially the Xemnas Dragon fight and the final boss fight with Xemnas.

[@PrincessofKeys]

I wonder what the story is with this place though, who built it!?

[@jonusaguilar8156]

Simple, nobody built it, hence the name, “The World that Never Was”. This place never truly existed to begin with. Well, at least that’s my understanding.

[@blueblase9981]

Can you do a deep dive/exploration and details of The Keyblade Graveyard in Birth by sleep and KH3?

[@socialistbcrumb]

Idk if people will agree but you’re right about the DDD version being more interesting overall (obviously it’s missing certain things like proof of existence though)

[@literalcharlie4171]

Knowing demeyx, he probably wouldn’t even care if it said 56 on his stone lol

[@Howardpower679]

In the graves you forgot toi mention that even if roxas are destroyed the light are still active meaning that even if he inst around he is alive... inside sora that is

[@MrNickoOD]

the truck makes me think there used to be life in the dark city

[@gnuwaves743]

As soon as I got to this stage I was like, "both Goofy and Donald can f** off. I got Riku!"

[@TheBanishedWind]

Are you going to do an exploration of the KH3D Castle?

[@TheDarkFuryKnight]

The world is great, would have loved the puzzles of the cavern of remembrance as the final test.

[@TheDarkFuryKnight]

A good finale level should test your experience, kh1 kinda does but more with hollow bastion which is not the final level but close. Cavern of remembrance is pretty good as it tests combat and movement skills, kh2 final world only has 1 new enemy, while kh 1 had 3 and they weren't a joke and cavern of remembrance gives us that with familiar enemies, testing this at the beginning before the castle would have been great, in the castle they could have used the movement and our puzzle solving skills, something similar to the nobody round would have been cool before facing the other org members.

[@onlyacomentarynothingspeci2419]

TWTNW is one of the reasons i believe Nomuras true Genius lies in his Design Philosophie its just so stand out and i think this World was always mend to be more and have ties to Shibuya

[@CocoHikari583]

The nobody emblem is actually a sigil.

[@ΑΝΑΣΤΑΣΗΣΖΥΓΟΥΝΑΣ]

Really? How?

[@aspreedacore]

@@ΑΝΑΣΤΑΣΗΣΖΥΓΟΥΝΑΣ recusant sigil thingamabob

[@trixtheghostwalker6634]

Can 358/2 days worlds be done next

[@MrNickoOD]

plz explore the world behind the doooooooor

[@aarafhossain4791]

Banger

[@agentclank8183]

Now I know why Maleficent wanted this place as real estate.

[@KingdomHeart556]

I thought Zexion’s portal was only destroyed in the original kh2, but you said this is from final mix?

[@NovayonKH]

Should be the same in both versions, I just used to specify which version of the game I was using in the titles

[@BozChord]

Shibuya prototype?

[@JCBassCovers]

I'd love someone to make a mod that forces first-person at all times so we can run this through VorpX and play in VR. Imagine how breathtaking this would be

[@opheliastanghelleeriksen8053]

That would be so cool! ^_^ Kind of dizziyng with some of the more spinny reaction commands though ;)

[@aspreedacore]

You already can play the whole game first person even fight all battles first person, do the RC’s cancel it, it’s been years since I’ve played lol

[@JCBassCovers]

@@aspreedacore It kicks you out if you do anything other than jump and attack. What I was talking about is a mod that makes it to where you don't exit first person until you want to.

[@aspreedacore]

@@JCBassCovers ah 👍🏾

[@ThyHarvesting]

Honestly my fav KH world not only for the edgy dark design but the overall atmosphere and soundtracks that play within it 🖤 A damn shame it wasn't included in KH3 as I would of loved to have seen it remade in high resolution 🤔

[@benjamindyslilaplaige8986]

Man the moon size is worse in kh358/2 days when you haven't fought xion yet the moon is very tiny Idk if it's only the ds version that has that or the if it's the HD version has the same thing but yeah it's weird even in kh3 the moon stays the same size in the main game and the part when you fight xehanort with the x-blade (not data boss battle) of kh 3 re:mind

[@EyeBeZombie]

It'll probably never happen but I'd love a fully open world version of KH without loading zones so we could just explore maps like TWTNW

[@treykoyawena4443]

Here’s just something ominous about the World that never was

[@jbcatz5]

Did you skip some worlds? I thought the last world you did this type of video on was KH2 Radiant Garden.

[@NovayonKH]

Yeah I'm not doing full videos for the Disney worlds now

[@DyxoXinoro]

@@NovayonKH Much as I would have liked to see a deep dive on Space Paranoids, I understand not wanting to do Atlantica.

[@jbcatz5]

@@DyxoXinoro Atlantica in KH2 is two rooms, so hardly a big amount of time that needs to be spent covering it. Visually and audibly Space Paranoids is definitely worth an exploration video.

[@DyxoXinoro]

@@jbcatz5 Thats actually why I mentioned not wanting to do it. Cause, uh, what would there be to even say with Atlantica?

[@keeganguyer5237]

Wait.... The World that Never Was... and Dark City... Large... Abandoned... Nobody... Nothingness... Nonexistent... Not reality... Reality... Unreality... If Quadradum is just one city among other locations in Unreality, could the Dark City actually come from an area tied to Quadradum if not part of Quadradum itself?

[@someguy4405]

The Kingdom Hearts moon is an edgy anime representation of the far-off goals people seek. I think the perspective thing works based on that. It’s so far off that it looks the same size from anywhere.

[@TwilightCage]

That's not their old boss but assume you knew that...

[@bradhedgehog12]

Man....so scary. But I made it threw to the top.

[@mig3671]

You didn't play kingdom hearts back in the day and it shows

[@josera3962]

Quadratum

[@Dragonking7700]

My car payments are eternal

[@Thisisthegreatestatofalltime]

KH2 level design in general is incredibly lacking and never lets you explore.

[@crazyfire9470]

At least it makes up for it in combat and backgrounds

[@Thisisthegreatestatofalltime]

@@crazyfire9470 Yea I agree, infact the combat is the reason I prefer KH2 over KH1.

[@jsanetailar8242]

There have to locked final stage characters how mess this game

[@someguy4405]

Nothingness mood.