The WORST & BEST BAND in Every Subgenre!

[@FinnMckentyPRMBA]

Come hang out in my Discord! discord.gg/9GbTq4d8Pe

[@SuperTimtation]

Finn! Shirt Idea! "2006 Pete Wentz Fingers"!

[@franktank4511]

Hey Finn. Would you ever consider doing a video about Jack Black?

[@creepymcpeepers]

You kicked me out though

[@SailorGuy1477]

Finn you sick duck

[@ndhart3213]

​@@SailorGuy1477why do you kinda sound like cave johnson?

[@benjamineer3045]

The eternal conflict between Technical Brutal Death Metal and Brutal Technical Death Metal (which are nothing alike of course) need to be resolved once and for all by trail by combat

[@davidrichins6495]

Trail by combat sounds too tiring. I’m not a hiker.

[@Boxocentipedes]

​@@davidrichins6495nah nah nah. See, its whoever can eat the most trailmix. Us non-hikers have an advantage

[@MySkilletfan]

​@@Boxocentipedesdry?!?!?

[@atvena]

Slamming...

[@nigeltufnel7275]

You should give Crossover Technical Brutal / Brutal Technical Death Metal a try, the two genres mix together better than you’d think

[@edsheeran1243]

You call yourself the punk rock MBA? Well you're right, because you're certainly not the brutal technical death metal MBA

[@duddust]

gottem

[@lbgtr87]

I think you mean the Technical Brutal Death Metal MBA!

[@AntonioLopez-bc6qg]

What does MBA stand for?

[@PxRxO77]

Master bachelor of arts

[@morbideddie]

@@lbgtr87metallic brutal avant-garde. Which is ridiculous since we all know Finn is actually Brutal avant-garde metalcore. edit: Wrong person, @antonio.

[@fdsfsdfsd1552]

Wait, when exactly were the worst bands mentioned?

[@keldonherriman]

You should’ve said Deafheaven is the best black metal band ever just to make the black metal stans cry.

[@draugarnatt3816]

He rambled on about someone being "butthurt" for about 30 seconds because said person mildly criticized his BM video, I doubt anybody takes him seriously here.

[@bbailey3055]

@ghostfacekurdkillah4147how’s he a groomer?

[@sinta_bique]

people are still doing that? is it 2011 again?

[@zenovixz9474]

Alcest is a better blackgaze band imo

[@bbailey3055]

@ghostfacekurdkillah4147 there’s a difference between 18 and 17 lmao

[@rdunc1586]

Nicleback is the glue that binds all genres together … seven degrees of separation Chad Kroeger

[@SconnerStudios]

No, MGK is. MGK created music so Nickelback could have a career.

[@MrHamtits]

HAURAKI FM

[@MrHamtits]

HAURAKI FM

[@MrHamtits]

HAURAKI FM

[@MrHamtits]

HAURAKI FM

[@NFLDude56]

Those Promise Ring girls definitely got an A at their evening community college video editing class.

[@irishspagetti6565]

I always thought the Used were the poster child of mall emo, they never got as big as FOB or mcr but I felt they had that veneer of classic emo while still being pretty mainstream

[@joemiller7082]

When I heard Take This To Your Grave and then From Under the Cork Tree, I immediately thought they reminded me of the Get Up Kids and Promise Ring, but with bigger hooks. And they were all in hardcore bands, which made it even more apparent. They’re simply a cut above the rest in cred.

[@evgenymozgovsky]

Shoegaze sounds like a David Lynch movie soundtrack with heavy guitars

[@hayes470]

yes. I love it

[@Mofos_of_Metal]

Can't wait to see whether Finn picks Keeper of the Seven Keys Part I or Part II for the Power Metal segment.

[@hulluporo9067]

Part II is better.

[@skulliomax]

I know I'll get shit for this, but I honestly think The Legacy is better. Maybe it's just because I like the more modern sound, but I'd take Gamma Ray over Helloweens early stuff. And I know Kai Hansen was in both!

[@sevel7556]

The 17 minute solo really inspired me

[@MetalGildarts]

Both are among the best albums ever.

[@vonNachtmahr]

Gamma Ray is better.

[@maxheilman5314]

They’re only chasing safety is amazing full stop. So catchy and fun with just right right amount of aggression. Underoath just blows everyone else away.

[@stg_tmc]

Often imitated, never duplicated

[@horizoniki]

100% agree

[@littadnb.]

God tier album!

[@darrenthetuber743]

​@@stg_tmc even the band themselves didn't bother

[@darrenthetuber743]

I love the only song on this album to even hint at the bands Christianity was the last one, otherwise the lyrics are raw, bitter and cringy, like they are not flattering. Musically it's dynamic to oblivion, at the time probably the most polished and slickest recording for the genre up to that point

[@lewismaclean8849]

Dude, first of all, awesome video. Secondly if you made a part two of this, I’ll definitely share it with my friends. Third, I would totally buy a book about Metalcore from you.

[@chernobylcoleslaw6698]

Metalcore = Converge. Post-hardcore = At The Drive-In. Doom metal = Thou

[@TimSantillanes]

Not only do I listen to Shoegaze just for the song, but I make multiple playlists of Shoegaze music just for the songs. Eventually it becomes overwhelming, because I have a hard time deciding if it belongs in the heavy gaze playlists, or the doom gaze playlists, or maybe it needs to go into the black gaze playlists. Boy Shoegaze is just SOO complex! 😉

[@thesecorridorsoftime]

Haha insane! 👍✌️

[@trevorjones4854]

Can you give me some good doomgaze and black gaze? Dead serious here

[@carmen5984]

yes same I now have a 'heave shoegaze' playlist and a more mellow dream pop kinda playlist. and now also started one with more doom gaze but it is very overwhelming

[@SPMinerva]

@@trevorjones4854try check Deafheaven, MOL, Alcest, Bosse de Nage

[@alexbernhardt56]

@@trevorjones4854Brave Murder Day by Katatonia is my go to for doomgaze

[@Fiveash-Art]

I like Death, and Obituary more than Morbid Angel .. Morbid Angel was iconic death metal though. Surprised Death wasn't at least mentioned. weird

[@joemiller7082]

Death is the best Death Metal band. By a mile. IMO they’re so good, they transcend death metal. They’re just my favorite metal band, period.

[@Fiveash-Art]

@@joemiller7082 They're total prog .. I agree with you.

[@readysetmoses]

@@joemiller7082 he didnt even mention them, clearly he is out of the loop

[@_Kakoosh]

It’s not even fair to mention Death. They’re just miles ahead and occupy multiple genres. Finn never mentions them unless chat brings Chuck up though. He always talks about how he listened to a ton of death metal back in the day but he’ll then go on to list grindcore bands + morbid Angel

[@hulluporo9067]

Great video. I hope there will be a second one. I agree with you on Metalcore. Killswitch has the highest batting average in the genre. I'm not into Death Metal. There are only two albums that I like: Mercenary by Bolt Thrower and Human by Death. The whole Emo thing passed me by somehow. Probably because my oldest son was born in 2005 and so I had other priorities. Is it possible that Doom Metal is the only subgenre of Metal which hasn't evolved since its invention?

[@mcbattledonk1383]

Anyone who says that about doom needs to listen to Conan

[@RSFArocks]

Nah, doom metal has evolved a LOT since it's invention. Type O Negative doesn't sound like Katatonia doesn't sound like Sunn O))) doesn't sound like EyeHateGod. Only traditional doom metal hasn't changed much since the whole point of it is to sound as much like the traditional 70s sound as possible.

[@jmfdm1]

Mayhem's Dead is one of the zombie backup dancers in the Candlemass video. The director went on to make videos for Madonna

[@dictiustecare]

Jonas Acklund also was in Bathory .

[@happybeejv]

Dude you never heard of mosscore? Its been around for years, it started as an underground scene in Springfield and dover in the mid 10s mixing element of crunkwave, space-yacht, yacht-goth, post-seapunk, mellowgrind, gothadelic dark-psy, and dankstep with such great artists as the chimichangas, the purple vapours, gyroscopic tea mangers, the chinchillas, the cosmic splazzoids, unmarked engines, and the deaf taxi drivers

[@springer90]

Say's Sublime is the best ska punk band, but plays a song from them that's neither ska or punk.

[@kJ922-h3j]

I mean generally speaking that 90s American stuff that is considered ska punk just needs a new name 😂

[@EPILEPTICS]

About the Shoegaze pick I think Finn has never listened to Slowdive

[@erikberg8352]

or Swervedriver

[@ryanbenson-smith4012]

Or ride

[@Interestingenough4]

You should do a Vol 2, then, for stuff like butt rock, grunge, nu metal, pop-punk, skate punk, hardcore, goth rock, power metal, and Christian rock.

[@alucardthebloodleech5293]

I'm sorry (not sorry) but both Mike and Mckenty are wrong. The best ska punk band ever was Choking Victim and in turn, Leftover Crack

[@hunterking6033]

There are so many different eras now of Post-Hardcore. They're Only Chasing Safety by Underoath is definitely up there as the best album, but I'd also throw Let It Enfold You by Senses Fail, Full Collapse by Thursday, Tell All Your Friends and Where You Want to Be by Taking Back Sunday, Discovering the Waterfront by Silverstein, Saosin by Saosin, Dear Diary, My Teen Angst Has a Body Count by From First to Last, The Used by The Used, and Go West Young Man, Let the Evil Go East by Greeley Estates. I'd probably go with Senses Fail as the best Post-Hardcore band. I know some people would throw some of these bands into Real Emo or Mall Emo or some other genre, but all of them have roots from hardcore or early post-hardcore.

[@lithostoic2008]

You just listed a bunch of my favorite albums 😂 nobody talks about Greeley Estates

[@hunterking6033]

@@lithostoic2008 IGreeley Estates was one of my favorites. One of my favorite live bands.

[@thedappermagician6905]

*politely rages in Alexisonfire*

[@meghanbeverly837]

Excellent choices, but I’d also Like to throw Finch and Glassjaw into the mix.

[@hayes470]

Rival Schools?

[@BAMEDIA_]

Clearly doesn’t listen to shoegaze 😂😂

[@aryanpugilist]

Are Kilswitch even Metalcore? I thought they were more like the sort of Melodic Metalcore that came later? When I think of Metalcore I think of Hatebreed, Earth Crisis, Biohazard, early Machine Head, Madball, Bloodlet and Vision of Disorder.

[@MrJordwalk]

That's right, Killswitch is Melodic Metalcore and one of the bands that pioneered it. Vanilla Metalcore is also stuff like Converge, Shai Hulud, Coalesce, Integrity (arguably).

[@robiu013]

3:03 Finn has been looking at that post every day for the last 7 years

[@Korloko]

Prime era FOB cranked out no-skip albums like Finn makes tier lists 🫡

[@queensofthedthrone8267]

Dopethrone by Electric Wizard is doom’s ONE uberly fantastic album (I never heard Candlemass’s second album, but Dopethrone is my favorite album amd every other doom metal album isn’t even in the top 500).

[@benlazar6017]

Check out the album Polar Fleet by Operator Generator. I’d describe it as one of the best Doom albums no one’s heard of.

[@dahmersbraindrill9585]

Go listen to Come my fanatics by electric wizard, it’s just as good if not better than dopethrone

[@queensofthedthrone8267]

@@benlazar6017 will do!

[@austins.2495]

Dopethrone is such a good album

[@ossharkuenmeursault5609]

isn't electric wizard stoner metal tho?

[@audreyazwell]

IMO the best post-hardcore band was poison the well. Interestingly Thursday seemed to develop at the exact same time, both formed in 97, PtW in Fl & Thursday in NJ. To clarify I don't *like* Thursday but I find it incredibly interesting that both bands came out at the same time with VERY similar vibes only one went the heavy route (screamo even?) while the other leaned more into the direct emo route. As those two bands seems to be the pioneers of popularizing if not inventing the genre, it REALLY makes me wonder who their influences were, as it clearly had to be something similar. When you consider when those bands dropped, they were very ahead of the curve & changed rock music forever. I'd go as far as saying it was the beginning of the end for Nu-Metal, while we were still getting great newer Nu-Metal bands like Linkin Park or Disturbed, System of a Down, Slipknot, Chimera etc, only a few years later would the gate keepers push the heaviness out of the mainstream radio in favor of what I call "post nu-metal" bands like Breaking Benjamin & all that (watered down, safe-generic bands imo) which in turn violently shoved all of us into bands like Poison the Well & the likes. That was the moment people were forced to venture into underground music, thus starting the beginning of the end of mainstream rock. While we can also mention the hipster crab mentality, I believe it was THIS moment that actually popularized/normalized it. People were jaded & began to vehemently loathe anything remotely commercial. The mainstream machine absolutely created that monster. Wow that turned into a lot more than I expected tbh lol I guess I wanted to write it out as I don't really see people talking about it & I think it's a significant oversight in terms of rock music history...

[@oliverbock5659]

Poison The Well are definitely Metalcore and would be in my Top Tier of Metalcore bands together with Converge (you can also call me Mathcore) and others.Thursday is a great pick. At The Drive In or Quicksand i could also choose for Post Hardcore.

[@slayabouts]

"This is Fugazi, it's the guys from Minor Threat and Rites of Spring!" "Uggh, who would listen to this?" I would, Finn, gaw... I actually would love to watch you do a video shitting on Fugazi even though I like them

[@mikehunt5926]

how could you not like they’re yelling

[@slayabouts]

@@mikehunt5926 it’s not all yelling, there’s a lot of out of tune singing

[@polarbsdlkfj]

What was that website at the beginning of the video? I need it for my musical education.

[@Bedrockbrendan]

As an old doom metal fan, I think Candlemass definitely always belongs at the top of that list (even if they aren't someone's favorite Doom band, it is impossible to deny their dominance of the genre). I will say I also somewhat agree with your assessment of Doom. I am not as critical of it as you (there are definitely a lot of Doom bands I like), but I find I usually gravitate primarily to those earlier Doom metal bands like Candlemass, Solitude Aeturnus and Cathedral (as well as some of the proto doom bands). But after that, the genre crystalizes into something that captures much of the mood these bands were shooting for, while also losing any of my the attention these earlier bands were able to command. Also the subgenres of Doom got quite silly in my opinion. Not saying there aren't later bands I like, I do. But there is a lot that I can only listen to about a minute of before needing more variation. For me, the three I mentioned are all noteworthy for a variety of reasons. Candlemass you have covered, but they just had a real ear for songwriting, brought these operatic vocals that didn't veer into power metal territory (at least not in my opinion) and they had a sense of humor too. Plus they actually covered a lot of topics. Graves and gloom was part of that, but there was more (and they honestly tackled graves and gloom way better than later bands IMO, as you can see in a song like Epistle No. 81. Solitude Aeturnus is my favorite Doom metal band and a lot of it is the powerful and clean vocals of Robert Lowe, as well as the overall aesthetic of their melodies and chord progressions. Plus they got more into Christian themes, without being like Petra or Stryper. And they knew how to throw in very interesting harmonies on power chords that gave the songs a nice color. Cathedral I like because of Forest Equilibrium. I had many of their later albums and EPs (I particularly liked the Soul Sacrifice EP), but it is their debut that won me over. It is so slow, but within that they are able to find enormous variation and sound. I remember learning one of their songs very early on guitar and while it doesn't sound complex, it is surprisingly so. This was maybe the slowest album I had heard. But they had the good sense to not commit to that and to change up their sound after (I think they understood it would start to sound the same if they did it across all their albums). And I think that is sometimes the problem with doom that comes after this classic period: it very much has a tendency to sound the same. It often has a lot of high level technical skill and sound engineering skill, but it can be hard for me to really pick out individual songs as the genre advanced.

[@dr.juerdotitsgo5119]

I don't get Doom at all. How can Epicus Doomicus and Forest of Equilibrium be defining genre classics while they sound nothing alike?

[@Bedrockbrendan]

@@dr.juerdotitsgo5119 If you don't like a genre, you don't like a genre. The beauty of early doom is it had so much variety (I don't listen to a lot of newer doom because that variety seems less prevalent). What sucks about metal genres often is they sound so narrow in their aesthetic. Early doom you had stuff like Saint Vitus, Candlemass, Trouble, Solitude Aeturnus, etc. It may have been one of those 'you had to be there' things. But I remember being in a band and discovering doom in the late 80s early 90s. It was still a heavy genre, but did a lot of interesting things. It tended to be slower, still heavy, more sabbath inspired, often had apocalyptic, religious or philosophical lyrics. What was impressive about Forest Equilibrium was how slow it was, yet still melodic despite some really strange use of chromatic, even atonal approaches at times. I remember learning one of their songs on guitar and being very surprised how more involved the composition was than it sounded.

[@dr.juerdotitsgo5119]

@@Bedrockbrendan It's not that I didn't like it. I really enjoyed early Cathedral and early Paradise Lost (if that counts as doom), but when I take a deep dive into a subgenre I like thigs to make sense. Thrash for instance you have an intelligible evolution, from Motorhead and punk to technical stuff like Coroner.

[@GeekFurious]

I'm 52 and people arguing with me about subgenres has cured my insomnia more times than Metallica has won a Grammy for pedestrian work.

[@theangelbelow88]

I love Shoegaze, but I definitely agree, it's more about hitting a vibe, rather than good song writing

[@SquirrelSeb84]

Neil Halstead: “Am I a joke to you?”

[@renatovillatoro4746]

Agree. The lyrics don't say much or don't make much sense if you read them carefully

[@renatovillatoro4746]

Agree. The lyrics don't say much or don't make much sense if you read them carefully

[@kJ922-h3j]

8:10 we definitely need a new name for that genre that then means 90s American ska punk, because ska punk is really The Specials, The Beat, even The Clash at times

[@curtisbush5728]

I'm gonna start a ska tribute to Alice in chains called SKAlice in Chains!

[@EPILEPTICS]

Another negative point about My Bloody Valentine is that the success of their album made their label owner capable of financing and investing in Oasis...

[@vonNachtmahr]

Nothing wrong with Emperor Debut to be the best Black Metal release. If you think about the fact that these guys were only 18 at the time, it's actually pretty impressive.

[@concretefinisher57]

There is also the argument for August Burns Red as best Metalcore band being as they did win a Grammy, and have gone platinum

[@raveygravey15]

I love that Finn’s picks for emo and post-hardcore sound like pop punk.

[@conors4430]

That’s what I thought.

[@CoryPlaysDrums]

There is something about Finn complaining about his mom then playing Underoath that hits in the Nostalgia 😆😭

[@joesmith8725]

Goth rock and darkwave has more punk rock, post punk. new wave roots, sound and influences. Gothic metal is moreso on the metal end.

[@AgarwaenClips]

I've been seeing a lot of this "metal tier list" videos last week. KZbin thinks I am reely into in, apparently. But most times i was disagreeng with them i didn't understand wtf with dudes's taste. But i've wathed few or yours, and its really clicked. Like you know some ancient stuff, and don't despise new music. When you had choosen "They’re Only Chasing Safety" as yor post-hardcore pick - i wascompletely sold. Like + sub. Good shit

[@marxman6896]

My man really said Fugazi isn't good. Jesus Christ.

[@Wailmur]

Feeling some severe butt agony?

[@bushleague3472]

I think Sublime is great, but I just dont consider them Ska Punk. The Police were more ska-punk than Sublime. IMO Sublime was just one of those oddball 90's bands that didnt fit anywhere, so they got stuck with the Ska label. I would call them the Nirvana of reggae, and if you listen to any modern reggae its got more Sublime DNA than Bob Marley.

[@MalMotorDedo]

"Fugazi is not good" **Picks Underoath**

[@BlackHowl1]

Plenty of silly errors in this video, but he lost any credibility with that absolute howler.

[@rhysdavies6340]

I was on board until this.. Fugazi are the 🐐 of post hardcore

[@misteress3840]

Devin Townsend video or interview? Please, Uncle Finn! 🙏 Finn > Beato

[@FinnMckentyPRMBA]

Thank you!

[@syntezjaofficial4240]

It's crazy that the most popular comment under Reinventing Your Exit video is related to FlatOut 2, this game had so great soundtrack

[@joemiller7082]

I think Quicksand and the best post hardcore band, Disembodied are the best metal core band, and Death are the best Death Metal band.

[@pathead9944]

Operation ivy and mighty mighty bosstones > sublime

[@OfficerBobbie]

Sublime is not “frat boy music” I grew up and live in Long Beach, it’s beach bum music. I grew up surfing and all the old heads and beach bums listened to Sublime and LBDA all the time.

[@honyakey]

Love you Finn! Your brilliant, hilarious, sharp, witty. Keep it goin!

[@dubiousdaydream1695]

honestly curious now what screamo actually is and where the line is between that and post-hardcore. There is a genre out there somewhere that's actually called screamo right? Circle takes the squere maybe? But how's that so differnt from underoath...

[@atomictoaster8013]

bro you’re such a cop

[@FinnMckentyPRMBA]

And?

[@lisajohnson521]

How long did it take you to put all these lists together?? Wow.

[@FinnMckentyPRMBA]

Sadly, not long at all lol

[@bilosdiogee410]

In Finn’s recent car video I had to google what giga Chad and beta cuck mean. That’s what being old is all about. I wanna see a deep dive on the band nerf herder. I bet Perry would come on for an interview

[@bearnunnemaker5453]

What genre is Toad The Wer Sprocket????

[@TheUglyPants]

In high-school someone carved Morbid Angle into a desk. It wasn’t a math class…

[@kalebseiler8577]

What class was it?

[@ericsiemens9891]

I bet it was an elective like film studies

[@atvena]

Clearly not an English class

[@glenmiles8751]

What d'u think about Tiamat "Wild honey" and "Clouds"?

[@dudleyhamby2029]

I was truly lucky enough to see Sublime at the Hardback in Gainesville Florida. A very small, close, intimate environment club that should have been a landmark in Gainesville but was torn down. Gainesville Florida is just not the same.

[@jimhimesjr]

Was mentioned in Thanx on 40oz. Pretty cool

[@dudleyhamby2029]

@@jimhimesjr Yes it was. Very very cool show and very lucky to have been there to see it. Thanks for the reply. Truly hope all is well with you my friend. Be well.

[@Crazytomm]

I know smoking weed isn't cool. But it's the only way I can listen to these videos while I'll clean. Otherwise this conversation is not interesting..

[@craigitr0n]

Alice in Chains is the Sublime of Grunge.. Jerry Cantrell is such an incredible song writer much like Bradley Nowell minus the OD'ing on junk.

[@MrJordwalk]

I saw Alice In Chains when the Blackdiamondskye Tour came to Toronto in 2008 I believe (either then or 2009, I've forgotten which), a show that remains the best I've ever been to because I found them after Layne died and didn't think I'd ever get to see them live, but they didn't only reunite and release an amazing album in "Black Gives Way To Blue"..... This Tour was all about incredible new albums, "Diamond Eyes" from Deftones and "Crack The Skye". JUST AN ABSOLUTE GOD TIER LINEUP.

[@Vb98765]

What a horrible comparison

[@ackyducc5040]

I do like Killswitch, but there are definitely a handful of bands I would take over them. Trivium, converge, the dillinger escape plan, early avenged, and even some modern stuff like Spiritbox.

[@meghanbeverly837]

I think KsE was the pick just because of how BIG the band got comparitively… and it’s hard to argue about the absolute chokehold The End of Heartache had on the early 2000s.

[@ultrasnail6927]

Saints Row 2 fans need to make peace with Saints Row 3 fans so we can all unite against Saints Row 4

[@FinnMckentyPRMBA]

🫡

[@glenr1031]

What subgenre would Ramones be in. Elements of their sound can be found in pop punk and hardcore. They were a major influence on thrash, metal, grunge and many other subgenres. But where would you put the band?

[@roflc0re]

Ska-Punk, what about Less Than Jake?

[@NonsenseOblige]

I feel like Converge is a safer bet for best metalcore band of all time.

[@Retro-2-now]

That “Doom” metal band should’ve been called Judas Monk with the outfits they were wearing

[@dreadiction]

Where i can get those list?

[@dprice81]

Sublime best of ska punk?? I dont hear any punk and also dont hear amy horns so maybe hornless guitar ska but ska punk, hell no. Op ivy has ska and punk sounds so id say Mike is more correct

[@joesmith8725]

Sublime isn't even ska punk. They are reggae rock. lol. You are correct.

[@jcook693]

Deicide Once Upon The Cross was my intro to extreme music in middle school and it still goes hard

[@Retro-2-now]

You asked what we would pay to be Pete Wentz’s fingers in 2006. Well, jokes on you because Pete is still paying for medications due to where his fingers were in 2006 😂

[@austin6071]

The best mall emo albums are by far: Taking Back Sunday- Tell All Your Friends Fall Out Boy - Take This To Your Grave Their subsequent commercial success after those albums definitely tainted my lenses as a fan, but I also think I’m correct that those later albums just weren’t as good. For the less well known bands, I’m still flabbergasted that Diffuser’s 2000 album injurylovesmelody isn’t more widely known.

[@bbailey3055]

Oh purrr girl

[@Ructions]

Goatswitch engage are the best band in the history of music. Nevermind the best in metalcore

[@austins.2495]

They’re Only Chasing Safety is one of my favorite albums to this day. Glad to hear the shout out 🙏

[@tubbsthabarber4507]

How do you feel about Title Fight?

[@Bloods2006]

They’re Only Chasing Safety is top tier. Definitive best post hardcore album. After UO made the album they were actually pissed that it didn’t come out as heavy as they’d like. Which is why they went very heavy and leaned into less pop influence on Define the Great Line.

[@evgenyivanov6311]

Warning is the greatest doom metal band, Watching From a Distance is the greatest doom metal album, and Footprints is the greatest doom metal song.

[@danielleclair1360]

Finn I agree with your take on Sublime. The fact yoh dislike doom/sludge snd like emo/pop punk rattles my cage though. Solid list all in all though. My picks Emo-Mallcore: NOFX...sry Fatmike kek. Deathmetal: Bolt Thrower Ska: Can we do Proto? If we can I am going with The English Beat otherwise Id back you on Sublime. Doom: Electric Wizard hands down. Black Metal: Emperor...with you there. They slay. Trv Kvlt Shoegaze: Duster...BUT hear me out. Title Fights last album was basically a post punk shoegaze album and it was good. Just sayin' Metalcore: Unearth...but yeah Killswitch...Kind of hard to argue Killswitch.

[@robertmclaren5711]

Mall emo: AFI Emo: Rites of spring or Husker Du(might not count) Death Metal: Carcass Ska punk: Real Big Fish(fond memories of Basketball💗sorry not sorry) Doom metal: Black Sabbath Black Metal: Imperial Triumphant or Liturgy Shoegaze: If Deftones don't count then: My bloody Valentine or the new Slowdive record ("Vibe music" are like the cat people of music, "catchy music with good hooks" are like the dog people music). I prefer to vibe personally but you do you. Post Hardcore: three way tie: Fugazi, At the drive, The Refused. Metalcore: Killswitch early work is overall better, it cliché to claim to hate this genre but wow is it all about the formula. This a hooks over vibe kind of genre and its a little meh to me.

[@SconnerStudios]

Best in every subgenre should be MGK, as he is an artistic visionary who encompasses all genres of music. Sublime? No, MGK rules ska punk. Nirvana? No, MGK rules grunge. BTS? No, MGK rules K-pop.

[@cookingwithvince]

I can definitely say that we disagree on some of our music taste Finn but honestly say when it comes to music overall, you are one of the most knowledgable people I know.

[@AmiliaCaraMia]

Sigur Ros and Thomas Newman are some of my favorites writers because they write in a way that doesn't really worry too much about genre. There's something creatively freeing about making music just for the sake of doing it 🙌

[@demitriuspandi9736]

Gotta disagree with your pick on Ska. Hippo, The skeletones, Voodoo Glow Skulls, Streetlight Manifesto & obviously the Mighty Mighty Bosstones all blow Sublime out of the water. That's just my opinion of course.

[@kendallmallon1763]

The best ever death metal band were "Satan's Fingers," and "The Killers," and "The Hospital Bombers"

[@hunterking6033]

I know Thursday is a post-hardcore band., but don't they also fit in that "Real Emo" group? I'd take them over The Promise Ring, personally. And I know it's generic of me (and I don't care because they're S+ tier) Jimmy Eat World is my Real Emo number 1. Futures is an all-timer album. I remember when my ex broke up with me the summer after my 22nd birthday, 23 hit so much harder than it had before and it was one of my favorite songs already. It Rivertown Blues by Yellowcard really got me through it.

[@ghost_face]

To be fair, Pete Wentz was up on Mikey Way of MCR as well… 🤣

[@WastelandOniGaming]

I'm so glad you mentioned Morbid Angel. I swear I'm like the only person who knows them in my personal circle, haha. And I hear absolutely no one talk about them or mention them in metal genre vids. Morbid Angel is absolutely amazing 👏

[@pekerhed101]

Most of the planet doesn't live in Seattle and Portland, so we're still aloud to say that Underoath is gay AF.

[@benzedrine5314]

😆

[@cr0mag732]

Black metal is immortal for me, sons of northern darkness is one of the best albums ever made

[@qwertyforwen2342]

Nickleback is my favorite death metal band

[@eetuhiltunen9911]

Death metal with a slight twist

[@dynamicdingus]

Best doom band is YOB. Their music is a whole experience. Whatever doom band Fin showed just sounds like any typical old metal band. Light years away from the best

[@Lucifermorningstar21]

Millenial men are lost and aimless. We NEED structure. And thats why these 'wikipedia entry' style videos do so good. It's tapping into our subconcious need for structure. Its the same reason people (millenial men) want fantano to do. 'Classic reviews DUDE REVIEW SOME CLASSICS REVIEW KING CRIMSON OOOOO' Also this kind of content is very easy to comsume its not like trying to listen to 'challenging music' ala swans throbbing Gristle etc you can just sit back and watch without thinking too much I'm no better YOU NEED STRUCTURE BOY

[@FinnMckentyPRMBA]

You speak facts

[@Lurch350Z]

As a guitar gear nerd I love shoegaze, and your comments about pedalboards is dead on.

[@jesusdelarosa1204]

At The Drive In is the best Post-Hardcore band....

[@BlindingSun_]

This

[@juddasoyuf1329]

This reminded me of seeing The Promise Ring, Jimmy Eat World and Grade at club shanghai in Toronto.

[@ihavealife002]

Always good to see Underoath get some love. Seems like they're always overlooked. And considering the huge impact they had on the scene in the mid 2000's and their solid catalogue, and not to mention how fucking good they are live, it seems a little strange.

[@_Xypes_]

@@stg_tmcthey have since disassociated a bit, but bands do get unlucky tbf, and there’s a lot of christian metalcore

[@greeksdorok]

​@@stg_tmc im not christian and it never deterred me from liking define the great line in particular. I enjoy the singles from theyre chasing safety but that album is a little too screamo for me. Define the greatline was thunder in a bottle and their golden age. They just kind of fell off aftwr which is why theyre not talked about anymore...

[@JWBDWP2]

Fiiinnnnnn, the best songwriters in Shoegaze is Slowdive brrooooo (first 2 albums). They’re easily two of the most accessible albums in the genre (mainly the 2nd), and just some of the most solid shits from the entire genre- period

[@alanmay6172]

So mainstream for saying sublime

[@yummydirt4851]

Made it to 1:17 before giving a thumbs down. May be a new record. Keep it up Finn, your content is improving