The Worst Case of ARCA Brakes

[@BlackFlagsMatter]

Correction at the beginning: Stuart Lyndon died in ‘85. In total two ARCA fatalities at Atlanta Motor Speedway.

[@biscotti3040]

That crash was really bad.

[@GardenStateDiecast]

The car that slammed into the tire barrier at pit entrance?

[@joshjarnagin3161]

@@GardenStateDiecast That was Don Marmor. They initially said he was dead but Dr. Jerry Punch saved his life

[@cameronpaul433]

That not Atlanta

[@nascarstinks]

Appears to be the old Atlanta configuration…

[@noahcoleman5556]

Spotter: "Crash in front of you, backitdownbackitdownbackitdown." Driver: "FLOOR IT!"

[@Dat-Mudkip]

Spotter: "No, _don't_ floor it!!" Driver: "Okay! FLOOR IT!!!"

[@deaf2819]

Like seriously… I wonder if they raced back to the flag maybe that can be the explanation

[@corbinselanne7990]

@@Dat-Mudkip Fred after the crash gets worse: "MY LEG!"

[@Dratchev241]

@@deaf2819 yes, back then they all raced back to the flag.

[@BathSaltShaman]

@@corbinselanne7990 AHAHA XD

[@StarryNovaSaiyan]

4 brutal wrecks. 3 drivers had to be air lifted. 1 driver lost a hand. 20+ drivers with a DNF And a car ended up on fire. I can see why this was considered the worst case of ARCA brakes. Holy crap.

[@MH_0015]

With NASCAR owing ARCA today, this race is probably one of the worst NASCAR races ever by proxy.

[@jefferyrobertson7520]

@@MH_0015 NASCAR Busch Grand National Series With Arca Brakes

[@StarryNovaSaiyan]

@@MH_0015 Eh....idk if I would call it the worst. Shall we go to the I think 2008 Brickyard (It was either 2008 or 2007 Brickyard), where long runs didn't exist at all and every caution was a tire going out. Tony Stewart verbally chewed Goodyear out for those terrible tires.

[@MH_0015]

@@StarryNovaSaiyan I don't call that a race anymore. The tires were so bad that they couldn't race.

[@StarryNovaSaiyan]

@@MH_0015 You know what. Fair. It wasn't a race, it was a circus. An embarrassment.

[@Cynon]

This race needed the safety truck, of all things, to provide the comic relief.

[@VSigma725]

That's what happens when you assume 2WD is good enough!

[@berniejo5307]

wet southern grass will do that

[@codyC423]

I know we think about old stock cars (pre C.O.T era) being death traps but the fact that dude at 5:06 even survived shows that the cars were really safe back in the 90's

[@Dat-Mudkip]

The biggest flaw was there was nothing to keep your head from flying around in a crash. If you could withstand the whiplash you had a very good chance of surviving.

[@oN3xShOtxkilL]

Tim Steele was one of the biggest “what if’s” for me, it’s a shame that practice crash forced him into retirement

[@n1umj]

agreed, I watched him do some amazing things in an ARCA car. The guy was absolutely amazing.

[@oN3xShOtxkilL]

@@n1umj him and Frank Kimmel are the true GOAT’s of ARCA

[@crazycars81]

@@thechasecalhoun stop

[@Slinger43]

Percocet, a lot of them, unfortunately forced Tim into retirement. After his first bad injury he was prescribed them for the pain & most unfortunately, he became addicted to them. I sincerely hope Tim has recovered from it, it's a god awful thing to endure 😔 🙏

[@omegatafkal24]

@@Slinger43 He did return after the crash tho and won six more ARCA races

[@Mike4k_]

It’s impressive how many big crashes ARCA has

[@skrimper]

Yeah, it was a little too scripted

[@jefferyrobertson7520]

@@skrimper Do You Like Stanton Barrett

[@rossracing6433]

That's what you get when you put a bunch of guys with limited superspeedway experience out there, often in sketchy equipment

[@BoleDaPole]

Yup, that's why it's the best series

[@43labontepetty]

Honestly You really have to try to be that bad.

[@grantaldrich1146]

I still think the 2005 Daytona race was worse, something like 13 drivers, 2 fans, and a photographer being sent to the hospital, the race was shortened because of all the crashes and the shootout was later that night, there was never a replay shown of the final wreck because everybody thought there had been a fatality

[@luisy.gonzalez6469]

They finally showed a replay AT THE NEXT RACE.

[@cay7809]

@@luisy.gonzalez6469 brutal

[@Derek-tk4wf]

Too many of the drivers thought the film Days of Thunder was an instruction video. Hey, theres a giant wall of smoke and cars everywhere on the backstraight. Eh, just keep your foot in it and close your eyes. It'll be fine.

[@ChrisPoindexter98]

@@Derek-tk4wf Literally, not to mention video games grooming us to do so in challenge/scenario modes. Kind of annoying and too luck-based to even play, but absolutely the worst advice for incoming, prospective, as well as present drivers, not only racing and cars on the street or elsewhere, but also piloting vehicles, period! Speeding on towards a mess of wrecking, uncontrolled fellow machines?!? It's preposterous when you really think about it, even in Days of Thunder they were trying to make the point that it won't work or end well for you!!!! I saw a fan-made iRacing tutorial about how to graduate from the Rookie ranks. It brilliantly described of, like, how bad the odds are, how reckless plus hurtful it is, and how much better it is to finish than wreck, especially considering the money and effort put into any race entry.... ☆tl;dr for anyone and everyone reading☆ ♡Reject the grooming from video games and other media, slow down as smoothly and safely as possible, even to a stop if need be, when a wreck is unfolding in front of you, no matter what.♡ 《{Maybe} if it's the final lap gun it, but even trying to do the same because of wanting to get a lap back earlier in the race...it's highly doubtful for that to be a good idea.》 Destroying valuable equipment, wasting effort, not to mention even harming the health, mental and otherwise, of yourself as well as others is literally just not worth it.

[@KellieLeigh48]

Chad Coleman was my uncle on my mama's side... I happened to be at the race he was killed in. 1998 Georgia Power 200. What happened was another car dropped oil and Chad happened to hit the slick spot. Car shot from the white line all the way over into the outside wall virtually head on. Chad died of a fractured skull. His head hit the steering column with so much force it bent the steering wheel

[@firewalker1372]

That’s a lot of force, you be able to bend the steering wheel…. I’ve been to wrecks where the top of the steering wheel was completely bent down…

[@KellieLeigh48]

@@firewalker1372 yeah... Unfortunately it was pre HANS device and it's pretty well conceived among the family he would be alive today with one on... The full race used to be on here but was taken down due to copyright I assume. U could see inside the car when they cut the roof off to get him out. The steering wheel was bent to the right

[@peterdaviesracing]

Sorry for your loss back then ;( 1998 feels ages ago, I was nine back then...

[@KellieLeigh48]

@@peterdaviesracing Thanks... He died when I was 8

[@Slinger43]

Sincerest condolences to you madam, especially for your Mother 🙏 I've been watching Stockcar Racing since I was a child in the 60's & I remember your Uncle (RIP) Chad, he was a good Wheelman who most unfortunately ended up in the wrong place, at the wrong time & tragedy struck 😞 Chad drove & raced in a time period of great danger & folk's looked upon the driver's as Hero's, that's how I remember your Uncle 🏁🏆 "Never put a question mark where the Good Lord has put a period" ✝️....Richard Petty

[@DennyDeliversYT]

whenever a car was wrecked in the middle of the track: _“please no one hit… please no one hit-“_ *ARCA 🅱️rakes*

[@JoshOutdoorsGR]

Man, some of those crashes look like the AI in NASCAR Ignition, the way they plow into an already wrecked car at full speed that’s come to a complete stop is baffling

[@TheRealerArbor]

LOL have you never played iRacing? It happens all the time in the ARCA races

[@simonrobins7536]

@@TheRealerArbor brb buying the arca car's

[@bhumiriady]

Even back then, ARCA Brakes incidents are pretty brutal... 😬

[@crazycars81]

Still are, 2009 and 2005

[@ProxiProtogen]

It's made sense for them to be brutal back then, idk why it's still brutal to this day

[@Scrapyard24c]

Sheesh, this race makes the crash at the start of Final Destination 4 seem almost believable.

[@dantharin5697]

I was on the crew for Delma Cowart and Jones. The 0 and 8 cars. Jones pancaked the right side during qualifing and we used duct tape to make the car look good on TV. We took home 2 busted cars that weekend..

[@racingaerials4493]

Fun fact: This race was actually tape delayed. However, because of the first crash the race was essentially live, with the commentators doing commentary about 5-10 minutes behind the live action. Jerry Punch and Benny Parsons witnessed the 2nd flip happen live, then had to do the commentary for it shortly after. That's why their reactions seem very...muted. Brutal for the drivers and brutal for the commentators. I know I have the satellite feed of this race somewhere. It's strange.

[@slyguythreeonetwonine3172]

Ah the good old days of piggy backing right off the track signal.❤

[@gnnascarfan2410]

I saw the feed on KZbin a few years ago and I think Jerry and Benny said "If they keep this up we're going to be live on air!" because Winston Cup Happy Hour was immediately after the race.

[@MrPhil1969]

The Ron Burchette wreck reminds me of a year later when Steve Grissom says "Hey Ron! You think you can knock down that wall? Let me show you how the pros do it. Hold my beer."

[@IrvinAlvarado44]

It is a testament to how much safety has been upgrade from walls to cars (even if the modern arca cars has some weakness that need work), a 40 car field with 6 in lead and lots of DNFs in something you see in Iracing (ARCA brake weekly is famous example) but this was real in the past. Now its you get one ARCA Brake in a season and its a less amount of grid size.

[@coca-colatrackhousewarrior9925]

The Second Worst Case of ARCA Brakes: Daytona 2005

[@Spyzthebozo]

I agree

[@johnvandeventer8668]

That race was absolutely horrific

[@GardenStateDiecast]

Can I introduce you to the 1955 Le Mans disaster?

[@johnvandeventer8668]

@@GardenStateDiecast Yeah. It was absolutely horrible because the crash killed 82 spectators or something. After Mercedes withdrew the other cars it was basically a snoozefest the rest of the race. The winning margin was 5 laps

[@hiimemily]

Shoutout to Jeff Jones for managing to finish 12th in his first pro race, even if he was 11 laps back.

[@NoName5589]

I was so happy to see that

[@gnnascarfan2410]

6:40 You can hear Allen Bestwick in the background, who was working for MRN Radio at the time.

[@StoneMaulForever]

Damn nice didn't even notice that. He's a good broadcaster, wish he would've stayed with mrn

[@austinreed5805]

The Gen 4 ARCA races were insane when it came to crashes.

[@xtlm]

3:25 The yellow car that enters the screen at the top does it for me. Best break job right there.

[@BlueJimmie48Fan]

And here I sit thinking the 2009 Daytona season opener was the worst....

[@MordecaiTheAwesomeBluejay]

Remember that auto race scene in Final Destination 4? That's ARCA in a nutshell

[@lukearnold23]

Happy to see how far protection has came with the addition of safer barrier walls, window net checks, seat belt checks, and more roll bars. Watching them old crashes it crazy how much the cars bounced off the hard walls

[@berryboiblast]

ARCA could just double as a demolition derby series honestly

[@WhateverItMayBe]

Rich Bickle recently retired from Super Lates at Slinger Speedway Finished 2nd to Luke Fenhaus in the Championship. Guy never lost his ability to drive. Great guy to be around too

[@naveedquadeer3752]

Good thing they went back to Atlanta next year, otherwise we wouldn't get Benny Parson's, "Shot out of a canyon" quote

[@codyC423]

BFM is hands down the best on KZbin. Dude always thinks of interesting stuff that we haven't heard by every other NASCAR KZbinr (they're good too, just not AS good lol)

[@BoleDaPole]

@RealRadman is the best but @Blackflagmatter is good too no doubt.

[@gth804f]

Since my comment on racing-reference on this race is now gone I'll leave similar prose here. My dad and I attended this race. Back then, through the early 2000s, you'd get the ARCA race and Cup practice and/or qualifying on the same day. Cup 2nd round qualifying (yeah, that was still a thing back then) was that morning and the ARCA race was in the PM. We sat out of the old Turn 2 grandstands. Couldn't really see the first crash, but we definitely saw the flipping car and a bunch of onrushing cars and the resultant smoke lifting. There was a long delay after that one...I wanna say an hour or so to tend to the injured drivers. When Burchette turned over on the backstretch (the tire got caught underneath the car which exacerbated the issue), Delma tried to slow up but was hit from behind. Cameras don't catch that. The race was shortened due to impending darkness because of all the delays and lengthy cleanups due to all the crashes. There was just as brutal of a crash either the next year in 1997 or 1998, can't remember which, where Mark Thompson hit the Turn 2 wall broad driver's side and was knocked out and sustained injuries that really put his auto racing career on the back burner. Atlanta also was infamously where Tim Steele's driving career ended, too.

[@TheEmilyFravel]

I can't imagine the PTSD the people in attendance have from this race.

[@crashunderride]

Benny Parsons to Jeff Jones "put it in drive and go, the one on the right". 🤣🤣🤣

[@andrewfiorini8169]

It’s amazing seeing how safe the cars are today. Lots of improvements to the tracks as well.

[@hardlydank932]

What a coincidence you upload this today! Earlier today I saw this race covered in one of Brock Beard's Field FIller videos

[@noahcoleman5556]

Also RIP Delma Cowart and Blaise Alexander. And BP.

[@MrMiD.Life.Crisis]

I'm glad one of you guys has picked up on the 'vicious' wrecks. There's so many that the video I saw about the wrecks in this race was split into several parts! Good work. Hope everyone's doing good.

[@hrtvfan2870]

Seeing these ARCA crashes, it's pretty safe to say it's a miracle that there haven't been more fatalities in the series

[@jamesgentry13]

The biggest misconception most people have is that ARCA is not a top tier professional series. It is mostly amateurs on a budget using old cup cars

[@lawless688]

I'm confused. So you're saying it IS a top tier professional series?

[@maureenobrien4968]

I had never heard of this complete shitshow of a race until now, I wonder if any of the fans there started calling for it to be ended early. Very interesting video.

[@TransPlanckianUnknown]

So basically half the waiting room of the local hospital was occupied by ARCA drivers.

[@andrewhaywood1262]

I remember finding this race on KZbin in 2010. I also remember trying to find out more information about Mickey Hudspeth but didn't come up with much because he didn't have a Wikipedia page.

[@C-WiL]

4:49 and 5:50 had me deceased 😂 "Steele was still in the lead"

[@pbjxf1288]

Dude I was at this race! We were sitting in the suites off turn 2! I remember making a comment about that wall sticking out heading into three and bam the dude hit it at 5:00

[@ricksorber9562]

There was so much difference in speed between the leaders and the others. I went to most of their races at Pocono from 88 until the mid 90s. It wasn't unusual for the leaders to be lapping cars before lap 10.

[@mono-no-aware.Lem.]

really cool seeing the in-progress grandstands and reconfiguration on the then backstretch of the track. This would be the last race weekend on the "old" track before they introduced the dogleg and flipped the S/F line to the other side of the track. That would go on to have one of the longest runs for an asphalt surface during the 21st century until its "new" configuration that we now have 2022-present

[@vonirkinshtine]

I moonlight working track safety at a NASCAR circuit. The ARCA races are by far the most interesting for me and my colleagues.

[@carterscheibel1115]

in the first wreck of the race you said "The worst non ARCA fatal crash" LOL

[@MrMatthias]

Yeah, I was wondering about that lol

[@Toxic2T]

Same I was confused lol

[@gofastandwynn]

There was a reason we always used to call the ARCA TV races I that day “death race 2000”

[@badbooking3221]

3:17 looks like the wreck that would seriously injure Loy Allen the next day in the Cup race. ADD: 5:07 looks like the Steve Grissom crash that would happen the following spring race at Atlanta.

[@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT]

It’s a miracle nobody died in 1996

[@stephenmitchum5864]

Unfortunately there was another ARCA driver killed at Atlanta in 1989, although is was when he was in the Cup race. Grant Adcox was a full time ARCA driver that did occasional Cup and Bush races.

[@jonathanchilders8636]

We were in the pits/garage area at talladega in October 98 for the whole weekend. There were so many wrecks in the arca race. I was a teenager and not super familiar with arca, it just kinda seemed like a lot of the drivers weren't skilled enough to be driving at those speeds. I'll never forget Adam Petty was in a very violent crash very close to were we were standing. He walked right in front of us a few minutes after the wreck without a scratch on him.

[@Kingbooger94]

I like the subtle Nascar '99 Music in the background!

[@davelikesbacon]

Something tells me Atlanta Motor Speedway wasn't the problem.

[@TravisMSimpson]

Not to be outdone, Winston Cup had a savage crash where Steve Grissom turned over

[@Viva_la_Snowman]

Delma Cowart sighting

[@jinglebell61]

We know how much ARCA has improved over the years with not that many cars in the field as well as West and East.

[@chardab8824]

just met Jerry Hill (Timmy/Tylers Father) and after talking about talladega mentioned this race and I was so confused

[@TJarrait1]

Kind of sad that the 30.324 pole time is way faster than cup cars go around many 1.5 mile tracks today.

[@JJTHE88FAN]

It's annoying that it's true

[@goldduster318]

I was at this race at 10 years old and Mickey Hudspeth's crash was right in front of us, really violent. Probably the most memorable ARCA race I attended in person. The only other thing from this era I remember clearly was I believe the 1994 or 1995 Feb Daytona race where Bobby Bowser and another car were stacked going down the backstretch infield. Also interesting that the car was a Brett Bodine car. I also whitnessed his terrible practice crash at Michigan firsthand.

[@alexkuperwwr3e245]

Imagine being one of the drivers debuting, thinking Wow is this how ARCA is always like

[@RRaquello]

I remember watching this race live. I think the 2nd ARCA race at Atlanta would get more attention because in those days it was championship weekend for the Winston Cup series, so the ARCA race would be on Saturday and the press coverage would be there for the big race the next day. I recall them saying, at the time, that the Mickey Hudspeth car was an ex-Jeff Gordon Chevrolet. Maybe because it had #24, but I could see that being a Brett Bodine Ford, because around this time he had the Lowe's paint job on his WC car, which was similar to what we see here. But can't tell from the pictures if it's a Ford or a Chevy. Sometimes they'd barely change the paint job when the car was used in ARCA, because I see an old Darrell Waltrip Western Auto paint job in there, and a Sterling Marlin Kodak car. The race the year before was just about as bad, with the Jimmy Horton crash that you used in the intro, and we used to kid about the annual ARCA bloodbath at Atlanta, though it really wasn't something to laugh at. ARCA had a weird combination of good, experienced drivers, like Steele or Horton, and other guys who were in way over their head at a track like this. I wonder why they didn't have Jeff Purvis, who was usually in that #1 car at the very fast tracks like Atlanta. At the time I knew a guy who worked (as a volunteer) on one of the lower level ARCA cars, and we were talking about Tim Steele winning all the races, and he says to me, "Why not? He's running in ARCA with a Winston Cup budget." I didn't know if it was sour grapes, because the team my friend was on had to beg for tire money, but that was the disparity in ARCA.

[@CR2racing]

Damn, this had crashes like you see in NR2003 when the AI just pile into each other. Miracle that no one was killed in this race.

[@rustyshackelford3299]

Someone needs to do a history of ARCA

[@julianlymond975]

5:09 Steve Grissom Did A Similar Crash 1 Year Later In The Same Spot.

[@CommodoreFloopjack78]

Holy crap, that wasn't a stock car race, that was a friggin' demolition derby.

[@tylerdurden4006]

It's so crazy to race cars with no brakes. These guys are psychotic!

[@michaelefferson5780]

WOW 5:10 is almost identical to Steve Grissoms crash in the same area just a few months later! 😳

[@hunterfitch5694]

Fun story. In the late 90s when I was young. My dad worked for toysrus and they wanted to get into nascar. He was involved in sponsorship aspect. Well dog read was thier driver for a few races in the number 96 chevy. I believe they only end up doing a few races. I have a few pictures with Doug read. Nice guy. But it's funny he popped up. I'm from Georgia. So some of these races my dad remember well. And that's honestly how I got in this sport. Been a diehard ever since

[@nascarsteve]

The 30 car reminds me of Steve Grissom's crash at the spring race the next year...

[@ChrisCards]

Jeff Jones was so new the narrator changed his name to Matt towards the end of the video. I remember watching this race live as a kid. I had two VCR's and had a wreck tape I made, I would take all the accidents off and put them on a separate tape. Did that for pretty much the entire 90's. Of course youtube basically made that obsolete and the quality of course is similar to the quality in this video.

[@duck74UK]

I thought ARCA Brakes was just to meme on the iRacing Arca drivers. I didn't know it happens in the real one too lmao

[@AEMoreira81]

This is why NASCAR now treats this as a lower HP track, resulting in racing action like Daytona and Talladega.

[@acecombat2shill]

7:00 this is why trucks have 4wd

[@plisskenationbackfromthede3657]

Lucky that the only casualties from this race were alot of cars, a couple careers, and hudspeth's hand. Watched it live and it was wild

[@dylanhale7300]

People need to understand arca in these days was basically the same people who run in Iracing today. Normalish people with enough money to try fast track themselves up to the faster classes of racing. Problem is, these are real cars.

[@randomreviewsrebooted5156]

0:51 yeah, that's a lie Look up Stuart Lyndon

[@Nedums]

when i tell you this, this is the most TERRIFYING crashes ive seen EVER in nascar, worse than me being so terrifyed at ryan newman flipping at 2020 daytona.

[@ASTRNetwork]

Not A Bust: Norm Benning

[@TheEgg185]

I had no idea how important the windows nets were. Knowing this, I'd be banging on it and making sure it was damn tight before every race.

[@the_road__warrior6185]

Arca races were always fun to watch. Intense racing with insane wrecks.

[@DC322]

The same spot at 5:08 where Steve Grissom had his horrific crash.

[@therrydicule]

The first crash would be the kind of thing where I would hope that the race stewart had a word with the driver, as in "everything is alright? Is it safe?"

[@hughjass5156]

0:48 That is an outrageously violent accident. My god.

[@johncalla2151]

Don Marmor suffered a life-threatening injury in that wreck. Dr. Jerry Punch (who is calling the race in this video) is credited with saving his life. He was working pit road for ESPN that day.

[@caedmon2behrens186]

5:26 I bet Steve Grissom saw this in 1997 and said "That looks fun!"

[@jonathanshelden3235]

It’s weird to see how big of a deal arca races used to be and how dangerous it was for a lower series. You’d never get 42 cars today.

[@mattheisen99]

Love the Nascar 99 song in the background

[@Racinmainiac]

this all takes place before safer barriers right?

[@twotonetry]

Good vid

[@jefferyrobertson7520]

Arca Brakes Speculator Crash From The 70s 80s And Early 90s ☺

[@Belugchanuwu]

The ARCA series needs to upgrade there brakes

[@speedwayanywhere6845]

Wow I kinda forgot about this one. I've seen a few worse but this one is definitely top 5

[@fuzzytron]

Really surprised there was no mention of the yellow car of Billy Thomas absolutely driving into the crash at 2:50. If it were up to me, he'd be banned from all NASCAR sanctioned events and possibly even have charges put on him for that.

[@joekeller8936]

I agree that it looks pretty bad, but you can see that a second before the hit, there was obviously a hole he was shooting for down the middle. The other car unfortunately got hit and thrown to the middle by somebody else. I think there just wasn't enough time for him to get on the brakes after shooting so hard for that gap. I think it was a dumb mistake, but if it were up to me, Id say it was probably not bannable

[@fuzzytron]

@@joekeller8936 I'm sure he could see the wreck happening as he was going into turn 3, he had more than enough time to even ease on the brakes, let the wreck play out, and drive on. I saw the hole too, but it was never going to happen.

[@ChiChiWoo]

Reminds me of a driver who had to have his legs amputated from some sort of open wheel crash (Think it was at Hockenheim) earlier this year. Forgot the driver’s name but his first name was Colin.

[@zgrb]

Wish you’d explained ARCA a lil more as a casual fan, but good vid!

[@Artessnow]

ARCA is basically a feeder series for NASCAR. Mostly up and coming drivers and semi-pros (hobby racers). If you are good and have money you can move up.

[@bryanrodriguez7636]

Fun Fact: Despite The Brutality That Was This Race , It Had Less Drivers DNF Compared To The 2005 ARCA Race At Daytona (27 Drivers DNF'ed At Atlanta 96 And 29 Drivers DNF'ed For Daytona 05) Also Great Vid!

[@liquidninja04]

What background music is that? Sounds like from a game I know

[@gorjlg]

If I remember right, John Gill drove the Warrior house car for a while.

[@pewterschmidt23lord99]

pretty sure its the same john gill i know came out and raced the test match series in australia in 2004 but I'll say hes a pretty cool guy

[@gorjlg]

@@pewterschmidt23lord99 I've never met him even though Warrior is 20 minutes from me.

[@Konformation07]

0:08 Noooo! Not the 69 car!