The Worst Engines Ever: Ford Triton

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[@tonyblackburn5002]

That plug issue was NOT solved with the 3 valve. The 3 valve just had additional issues.

[@metalsurgeon9196]

Ya the plug couldn't come out, it's lower half is carbon welded in the head by the time you want/need/should change them. Such a pita I would rather have the two valver.

[@tonyblackburn5002]

@MetalSurgeon not to mention the cam phaser bs that is common on the 3v. The 2v engines were way more reliable, and even if they pop a plug out its easy to repair and don't cost much if you do it yourself....With the 3 valve u get all the joys of the bs w the plugs PLUS phaser problems.

[@dertmatyui]

⁠@@tonyblackburn5002wouldn’t you have to tap your head? That doesn’t seem very easy😂

[@tonyblackburn5002]

@cooper cihak it's simple really, if u have any mechanical abilities u should be able to get it done.

[@daemonhat]

@@dertmatyui get a helicoil kit.

[@NorthAlabamaOutdoors]

You forgot about the triton, 54 spark plug, breaking off in the cylinder head. Also, it was extremely common on the three valve.

[@keithbaker1951]

Yep because they added so many threads lol 😆 Ford made a special tool for changing the plugs as a " fix"

[@demorestautosport]

No doubt. How did he miss that?!? Must not wrench for a living 👈

[@NorthAlabamaOutdoors]

@@demorestautosport that and the roll pins coming out of the cam phasers on the 5.4

[@johnwilson-ml7uq]

He also forgot about the random oil leak they come with

[@bigc9464]

If you're ever doing a swap. Look for mid 2008 and newer i believe. They fixed the plug issue

[@jr5324]

still have 2v 5.4 all original, runs like a clock, and never had spark plug issues. I've always heard this was a 3v problem.

[@andrewmattera6205]

nah nah you got it all wrong, it's a model year problem, i believe either 2002 or 2004 they revised the heads to have eight threads instead of four

[@craigwiess1656]

Have a 97 E350 6.8, 200k miles no plug ussues and a 98 E350 5.4 230k miles not a problem. 2006 E350 5.4 has 103k miles no problems. Bought a cheap 2001 F250 5.4 it ejected 3 sparkplugs in 200 miles. If the plugs are properly torqued and only change them when the motor has sat overnight.

[@DarkAttack14]

It was a Ford Triton issue

[@bradthackston5217]

I have a 3v and have never had a plug or timing problem and it’s 19’years old

[@philipjohnson7445]

My dad had a Triton in his van, it pulled a trailer better than any truck he ever had, but eventually shot a spark plug

[@ubeuonly]

Even with less horsepower and torque than a Chevrolet or Dodge

[@jeffhall768]

Your dad has had terrible trucks lol

[@jimbremner7013]

Ford guy, no hate here

[@joegage6171]

I had a few crew cab long bed gassers for a work truck. Gutless, terrible gas mileage.. but they didn’t give me as many problems as the newer Cummins that were constantly in the shop. Swapped the whole fleet to duramax and problems were solved.

[@philipjohnson7445]

Duramax is better.

[@Kenzo-bp1zs]

I got lucky with mine, over 300k still going strong when I sold it.

[@theratinaCage]

Legend has it this person’s engine threw a spark plug the very next day after making this comment

[@kevinflores4455]

We just hit 320k on our 2009 f150 but we did have to lockout the camshaft phasers

[@maybe_try_thinking_instead]

​@@kevinflores4455I'm at 236k with stock phasers. Did a melling oil pump and new chains. Runs perfect.

[@danp7463]

I have almost 300K on my 5.4 3 valve. All original, anyone care to know my secret for success? OIL CHANGE'S, OIL CHANGE'S, OIL CHANGE'S. Engine's like clean oil. I'd rather use house band oil and more frequent o/c interval's than be suckered into some high performance synthetic oil where the manufacturer claims you can go 20K miles on.

[@nerd1000ify]

Cars in the US always seem to be sold with absurd oil change intervals in the logbook. Like 20K miles? Same engine in Europe or Australia would probably be sold with a 10K mile interval, and a lot of owners would think that was too long and cut it down to 7500 miles or so.

[@plowman7]

I worked in a fleet shop for awhile. Those triton engines didn't give many issues at all. We would go back and torque the plugs on the 2 valves at 50 thousand and they would get replaced at 100 and the same with the 3 valve. Using that practice, we didn't have any plugs "exit the chat" so to speak

[@nhbountyhunter]

Ya. I have a 99 lightning and it ejected 2 after the 1st plug change. Ford replaced the heads then I did my own work and torqued them to 12ftlb. 3 changes later zero issues. I did buy back the og heads and put time certs into them. Never needed them. Still have the truck and the heads to this day, next year I can get antique plates for it!

[@johnpeters9793]

​@nhbountyhunter You hit on something I've been saying for years... I've owned probably over a dozen modulars and NEVER had a spark plug problem. Seems like if they spit a plug it's AFTER an R&R.... The 2V 5.4L is an incredibly durable motor which I base on my years in EMS. Econoline ambulances go 300k with ungodly idle time before being relegated to ILS duty for another 100k++ I do not have an excuse for the later phaser/timing chain issue on the 3V The 3V V10 had no phasers and made very good power. This guy isn't telling the entire story.

[@johnpeters9793]

I think you are 100% spot on....but Americans are not used to doing maintenance, much less early maintenance.

[@zacknagel827]

The car wizard has a very good video brake down on why I would agree with this being an awful engine. Even would argue with worse then a northstar or a neglected EJ/FA Subaru lol.

[@plowman7]

@@zacknagel827 I would argue from a reliability stance that the ls is worse than any of the mod engines. We had a pile of ls powered vehicles to compare, and the results were not good for GM. Not the mention the transmissions behind the ls powerplant were also terrible

[@michaelhungate7506]

The 5 4 2 valve only has the spark plug issue , easily avoidable, just torque to about 20 pounds and it will be fine. The 3 valve 5 4 introduced in 04 had many other problems. My 2 valve 5.4 has 411,000 miles and runs perfectly. Very different engines, the 3 valve is referred to as a "shop queen" by many mechanics.

[@michaeltipton1208]

Change that oil

[@michaeltipton1208]

I have one and I love it

[@bradthackston5217]

I have an 05 never had a single problem yall just don’t take care of them is what it seems like

[@michaelhungate7506]

@bradthackston5217 just taking care of them has got to help with longevity. I'm sure not everyone will have problems.

[@pstreetgarage7304]

The early 3 valve had the 2 part plug issue and cam phazers that made it sound like it has a knock

[@pizzamangametime9773]

We have a 6.8l in a f350 with a manual and those things are not gutless it will chirp the tires with a gooseneck on it and has hauled probably close to 20k at some point and is still going at 212k miles granted the transmission is not happy as second gear synchro is out but you just gotta shift it like a man

[@---jp9fz]

The guy that made this vid doesn’t know what he’s talking about he just googled the ways some of the engines would fail. They used triton engines is some of the fastest sports cars in the world.

[@D34D22]

@@---jp9fz Triton engines weren’t very good. Compare them to Chevrolets engines of the times and you’ll realize real quick. Yes they’ve been used for some fast cars but those aren’t really Ford motors at that point when they’re that heavily modified. The only thing left that’s from ford is the block. Different pistons, rods, valve train, heads, crank, and cams, so no longer really a ford engine. Yes tritons can last a while but you’re gonna have problems especially with the 5.4s.

[@rock-uu7qr]

The automotive journal just googled forums and went with the first thing he sees. He knows almost nothing about engines on these lists

[@mayhem9052]

@@D34D22Fr like personally I like the Tritons but compared to the 5.3 and 6.0 vortecs Chevy had it’s night and say

[@D34D22]

@@mayhem9052 Yeah compared to the 5.3, 5.7, 6.0, and 6.2, ford doesn’t have shit on Chevrolets engines except maybe the 5.0. I like ford more in pretty much every other way but they made a big mistake with those triton engines.

[@ADanielPerform]

My 6.8 f250 has been pretty good to me, the secret to all the triton engines, is actually maintaining them. As long as they are taken care of, they good for a long time. My v10 has almost 300000 miles and haven't had an issue other than the egr valve

[@Fence-Dogs-More]

I’ve seen 5.4s with over 300k

[@dapper_gent]

I have a 2v 5.4 triton and bought a kit for a plug blowing out. I was able to get new threads tapped with a guide fairly easily with a 3/8 impact. I've had the truck forever and it's still my daily driver. I don't like shopping for new vehicles especially when I keep up with the maintenance.

[@WADEPH33R3]

ford made plugs that fixed the issue

[@backyardbuilttrucks1]

My 2001 F350 6.8 has 434,000 miles and still going strong .

[@markkaminski2416]

Yeah me too bud. No complaints whatsoever!

[@glazedonut7104]

Got a 99 f350 6.8 with 94k. I love it, just dont like the fuel consumption. Hopefully i can get car in the near future so im not putting all the milage on my truck anymore.

[@joe-ut9kb]

What oil are you using?

[@futurefunk88eddins96]

Damn that's alot of miles.

[@mxking317s]

Spark plug issue on the 2v was solved on the assembly line by 2003 with redesigned heads with 8 thread holes. And earlier through a recall campaign by rethreading the 4 thread holes with a special insert(not helicoil). I have a gen 2 Lightning which has a huge amount of cylinder pressure and I have never had an issue. Anti seize on the threads and proper plug installation using an actual torque wrench and there are no issues.

[@winfriedkloeser3244]

I miss my 460 . Had one in a 250 mated to a five speed transmission. Best combo I ever had.

[@drewmurray2583]

The 5.4 2v spark plug issue is just from Ford not tightening them enough. I check and tighten each one every time I get a 2v. 3v I see if they come out with my impact, havent broke one in years!

[@davidduplessis7800]

No, they literally made heads with 2-3 threads in them. They didn't fix that until 2001-2002

[@AndyRock1]

Literally happened to me! First car I owned (2000 f150)! Got stuck way out in the middle of no where lol. Spark plug ejected itself. Got really lucky, neighbor was a Ford mechanic instructor at the local community college, and had his students fix the truck as an exercise. 😅

[@tunerrestorations]

I love fords. And I have had a 3v triton in every ford I have owned. From the factory they are anemic and have terrible timing systems. But, every one I have every had has been great for reliability. My current one is a 4.6 3v in a sport Trac and it’s at almost 500k miles I lucked out though. Seen many with holes in the hood from Ballistic spark plugs.

[@mattorey5816]

I’ve had an excursion with the 6.8L v10 for like a decade and it’s been a good truck. I check spark plug torque each spring to avoid the known ejected spark plug issue and outside of 1 bad fuel pump that truck has been insanely reliable. It does everything I need it to, and literally the only downside to it is the fuel mileage. The 6.8L also doesn’t have the cam phaser problems.

[@don2deliver]

They should have used the 5.4 4v in more than just the Blackwood and Navigator. They were technically not Triton, even though they shared the same bottom ends. They were Intec engines.

[@emerycottle3166]

I think they were only intek engines because the engines were in Lincoln cars so they probably couldn’t use the ford “Triton” name.

[@don2deliver]

@@emerycottle3166 The Mustang Cobra was an Intec engine as were the Mark 8, Ford GT, and Mercury Maurader. They all had interchangeable camshafts.

[@fatmunch6318]

I don’t know why nobody talks about the ford gt regarding the 4v tritons

[@chrisotto_2008_L3XUS_IS_F]

@@fatmunch6318I know right…. That Ford GT Engine is something else entirely…. For all intents and purposes it just as well be a supercar motor…. One of the best “modern” vehicles that Ford ever produced in my opinion and the motor in and of itself was a work of art…. My favorite part is when people especially Chevy Boys say things like “Oh it’s basically just a four valve Triton and that’s a piece of shit….” Them of course not knowing that it literally shares nothing in common with a Triton 3-Valve or 2-Valve…….. 😂🫡💯👌🏻👍🏻🤣

[@gogurt2693]

Tell me you don’t know what you are talking about. Without telling me you don’t know what you are talking about. This videos sums it up right here

[@J-9-9-8-7-6-]

I must of gotten lucky with my 09 f150. Never had a spark plug issue nor a timing set issue. I pulled the motor at 250k still running to build it. Plus mine had a 6r80 transmission. Wasn’t a rocket ship but was fairly spunky and was able to tow 10k with it.

[@neooverby3750]

I love watching this guy’s videos. as a Ford technician I know these engines very well somethings he gets kind of right, but then he completely face Plants doesn’t even understand how the engine work. Or the actual true failure points

[@poonbandit9924]

The 2v was easier to replace the plugs in then the 3v, less threads held the plug to keep it seized in and destroy a head. I have only busted plugs in a 5.4 once, it was the first one I ever did when I was in high school and I broke 4 after that it was fuel induction services and working it back and fourth with an impact right after taking the truck to lunch to get it smoking hot.

[@warrenself]

You can tell people don’t work on stuff when they don’t know the difference between 2V, 3V, and 4V Modular’s and which applications they were called Triton’s. Or even just get the years right lol.

[@connorrevill3267]

I say this as a ford guy, I can't hate you because you are right. The 3 valve isn't great. But if you sleeve your 2 valve, you should never have spark plug issues again.

[@diegopinera1116]

My 2010 5.4 3V still going strong with it having 392K miles with no issues and has its original engine and transmission 😤

[@YoYoMan112]

As a former ford guy, i always hated those engines. No power, sounded like garbage, and were not reliable. They always get a tick too

[@divinedavidson9967]

I had a 4.6 l sn95, over 200k on the clock, started it up leaving a family member’s house, heard a backfire from under the hood, drove it down the road and decided to pull over being that it sounded it was running a cylinder low, plug ejected out the cylinder head into the plug wire and decided it’s shift was over😂 luckily I was a ford apprentice at the time and my mentor had dealt with it multiple times and had me up and running within an hour while giving me an opportunity to learn

[@austinaubinoe2195]

That’s the big thing too, everything has issues but atleast with these American truck engines they are simple to fix. These engines are also not that expensive to replace. Have been very economical for our maintance business, and the rest of the truck is high quality.

[@michaelfrohn255]

I had a an 05 F-150 5.4l . The timing was replaced under warranty. Updated cam phasers. Ran it to 470,000 miles before selling it. Always changed plugs at 50k. No engine issues, other than regular parts failure, like water pump, alternator.

[@alejandroguerrero9894]

When the 3v " fixed" the issue they added more threads and with the 2 piece spark plug they used it made it a mission to replace spark plugs

[@askjeevescosby2928]

What about the HT4100. You do that one yet? Aluminum block with cast iron head, narrow oil passages, flat cams, just a nightmare engine. Gm said to use headmaster sealer tablets from the factory. To change the intake gasket you had to remove the head and if you removed the head the block would warp and you couldn't put it back together.

[@concertscoastersandnitro725]

You forgot about the oiling issues with the rocker arms that would cause them to sluge up if you didn't change the oil overly regularly causing rocker arms to slugs up seize and break

[@ethanbarnes9252]

If you ever have a super sketchy spark plug on the 5.4s just go ahead and do the intake gasket too only takes 30 min to get off and makes it so you can get to spark plug with just a socket makes it way less likely to break one done quite a few that way and never broke one.

[@D2O2]

Huh? They come out with just a socket with the intake installed as well.

[@justinjohnson2657]

As a Ford guy, I completely agree. That was a bad design and caused loads of heartache for folks. You were nicer to the 5.4 than you could have been honestly.

[@runsbetterthanitdidgarage.626]

The roller follower would disintegrate lock up and destroy the valve. It starts as small tap, then a miss, then an engine.

[@D2O2]

Rarely does damage to the valve, and sometimes damages the cam, if ignored.

[@D2O2]

5.4 3v pistons hitting valves? That's a new one.

[@patrickmorrissey2271]

3v 5.4 still had spark plug issues... Changing those is really shaking hands with danger....

[@D2O2]

not if you know what you are doing.

[@Blake-ku3kq]

My dad had plenty of fords with the 7.3 diesel and he always talks about the triton engine sucking 😂

[@TenaciousDeezNutty]

My buddy had a 5.4 shoot a plug into the hood. After it shot out again, he just used loctite and said good enough. It's been running perfectly fine since for 8 years.

[@iviaverick52]

the ONLY benefit of the Triton engines is they are everywhere, so finding parts is incredibly easy when yours inevitably breaks down.

[@MrSlimeMan01]

The 2v were much better than the 3v, but then again my dad owned an 05 3v for many years and it never once left him stranded, finally traded it in for a newer truck when it didn’t like towing our big ass camper.

[@michaelczesnozki1671]

My 5.4 2003 F150 lasted be 478k miles before it died. It needed 3 new spark plugs and a cam phaser. I just sold it.

[@davidpawson7393]

The amount of work trucks I patched on the way to storm work on the side of a freezing cold highway from plugs popping holes in the hood with injectors still squirting fuel is almost hilarious. Got a nice raise considering I was just a groundman still learning the basics of angry pixies. Fixed many using scrap wire in the bed, enough to get the job done anyway.

[@treedom5938]

As a guy who’s a diehard ford fan, and my dad having a 08 expedition with the 5.4- I will tell you that it lasted till 2018 when we sold it, i guess we got lucky as hell-

[@xbk1370]

The plugs be ejecting like goose

[@user-ov9zm3fb5y]

5.4 97 to 2000 had this issue. Was fixed in 01 with more threads added. Most of the time the actual that later engines had it happen was weak casting on those revamps and the threads would rip out entirely.

[@TheTruthBeToId]

The 97-03 ejected plugs but the 04-08 didn't wanna let go.

[@wintonhudelson2252]

Exhibiting the stellar engineering of an open on Impact parachute!

[@futurefunk88eddins96]

01 f150 5.4 and I've never had a spark plug fly out.

[@infernoking7504]

We never had a issue throwing spark plugs we added special sealant that will make it to where the aluminum and steel won't bind together.

[@earlrissel4454]

I ejected 1 spark plug at 130,000 miles trailering my broken down Astro. Now I have 2 vehicles to get towed to the mechanics and get the rental equipment company to come get their trailer. Good times.

[@HD7970]

The best way to prevent the spark plugs from yeeting them selves was to torque them. My dad figured this out years ago when working for the city. After he started to do this it stopped happening. TBF it was a major oversight by ford because at that time who the hell used torque wrenches to install spark plugs.

[@trailerparksushi443]

I hated doing the manifolds also on those especially when the studs had to be removed fuck me still pisses me off just thinking about it.

[@commonsurvivor]

The plug issue was also because of the aluminum heads causing mechanics to be afraid to over tighten. I have ab low mileage Marquis in my backyard that had the exact same problem😂

[@davidaix5771]

What's wrong with the V10 version

[@TurkeySlayer86]

Had numerous spark plug & coil deletes while owning a 2valve 5.4. It always happened at the worst time 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@vitopannucci2001]

A new iteration is never a "fix" of an older version until its proven by time

[@SgtKilgore406]

Our 99 F350 has the v10 Triton and it blew 3 of the plugs, one at a time, before we go the heads fixed. It has not blown a plug since. I also don't agree with anyone saying the v10 is gutless. We have pulled our 28' steel, not aluminum, gooseneck horse trailer fully loaded, and overweight, with house and garage crap during moves multiple times and it has done so with ease. It has no problem maintaining highway speed including hill climbs. The transmission could definitely be better but that's off topic.

[@jacobgodfrey8164]

I had a 2000 expedition with a 5.4 350,000 miles and still run good!

[@jesusgomez4756]

Did you know, that the 4.6 2v engine found on the explorer and mustang can actually redline in excess of 6500 rpm if one wanted to.

[@MrShakotan]

In Australia we got performance orientated 5.4 4v engines. Ranging from 260-315kw naturally aspirated. No spark plug issues but we did find the timing chains did need replacing at least once in the the engines typical life span.

[@MadsWorld34]

in 2005 the 5.4 also went to a longer plug that would brake off trying to remove them.

[@DwayneSkretting-eb7qc]

Have had multiple 2v 5.4 never had an issue even had one pro charged and with a 50 shot of no2 still nothing but I hear of it a bunch lol

[@anthonyharris8390]

Had the spark plug issue on the 4.6 too. Changed coils and plugs 3-4 times, shot a plug out, and finally sold the truck.

[@robs4517]

The problem is grossly overstated. Even with all of those problems that engine will still last longer than an LS.

[@charlessmith3350]

My brother has a 1999 F-150 with the 5.4L 2 valve, we tried changing the spark plugs once and out of the 4 plugs we tried only one of the spark plugs was the correct size. The other one had a basically a spacer on it and the other 2 needed a different size socket which we didnt have. How that motor has over 305k miles is one of the worlds greatest mysteries

[@Mark_317]

Scariest part about working on a Triton, it's doing the spark plugs.

[@ssgpentland8241]

as someone who works in a shop that remanufactures these engines, i 100% agree. Ill even go a step further and say that Ford hasnt had a "good" engine in their F-Series trucks (gas wise) since they removed the 351 Windsor from their lineup. The Tritons were trash and the ecoboost engines are an overcomplicated nightmare that along with the short-lived "coyote" engine is filled with planned obsolescence problems that make them impossible to rebuild. When these engines fail, the entire long block is trash. For these reasons, I stand by my assertion that Ford has not had a good engine in their gas F-Series trucks since 1995

[@jasonchristopher2977]

Agree. 4.6 2valve has been gr8 to me but not like my 94 2wd F250 5 speed. She pulled so much and never left me walking through 479k miles. Drunk beach hit me and the Insurance said the damage was more than it's worth. I sprayed that truck every fall, took great care of her. Miles don't mean nothing IF u maintain them. Like saying urr 12 valve Cummins has 300k. It's junk. Well I'll take it then. Dad had a 98 dodge 2500 diesel. Body left it 2 times and it's still going. All has been redone but engine. Ppl he sold it to still drive it.

[@TAShannon1]

The spark plug issue was most common on the early 3V engines. The least affected variant was the 5.4 2V with the p.i. heads. The 5.4 2V's also were just as notorious as the 3V's for timing chain, chain guide and tensioner issues as they use an almost identical design with nearly identical parts. Lastly the 3V's had many additional major issues with cam phasers, roller followers/inadequate oil flow to passenger side bank, lash adjusters, and VCT solenoids. In my opinion as somebody who rebuilds 5.4's for a living, I almost consider the 5.4 3V to be the 4l60e of engines. Many points of failure

[@scotcoon1186]

What, then, do you consider the 4l30e of engines?

[@carloscano4157]

I have a 2001 6.8l v10 never had an issue with it 240,000 miles still going strong and pulls great and never left me stranded unlike my 2016 5.7 hemi

[@dragthatsht]

The 2V 5.4 was available until 2016. Everyone forgets about the vans.

[@jacobstienecker]

4.6l 2v is the king

[@orangeponygsxr9366]

This dude saying the 5.4 is gutless that 4.6 is even worse

[@jasonchristopher2977]

​@@orangeponygsxr9366Look up Million mile crown Vic. Actually 1 million, 117000 miles now. Same drivetrain. I'll take an engine that don't need work and runs forever than big power and a lot of work. I fix a lot of big power engines. I've had many a truck, van, sedans with 4.6 2v. Yes they don't have a lot of power, but man do they just go. Have a 99 town car 263000, and a 07 with 123k. No issues with either. Just drive them. Keep oil changed 3-5k depending on highway or city driving.

[@austyndrums1993]

The 5.4 l modular Ford engine design was also the basis for many super cars within the same production years.

[@solvend]

The 3v were junk too. Bad timing sets, guides, VCTs, Bad oiling on passenger side and list goes on and on

[@sock979]

When I was in college in 05 I got a used 99 expedition 5.4 Eddie Bauer 2wd and I freaking loved it. Got it with 99k miles and sold it with iirc 160k or 180k miles and no issues, but since It was used. I don't know if the previous owner had fixed the spark plug holes problem. But it had a tune and full exhaust and the burnouts that I could do in that thing were freaking amazing and that one at least was not gutless for a 8000 lb soccer mom car. It was pretty fast but mostly the burnouts were just glorious!!!

[@JaredMatranga]

My first truck was a 2004 F150 with the 5.4 triton. I’ll never forget that truck. It was the epitome of a piece of shit and I was so glad to get rid of it

[@Billy28376]

I had an 01 excursion with a 5.4. 225,000 miles on it. Only issue was a cracked exhaust manifold that I had to fix. Yeah it was gutless. Especially pushing a 4x4 excursion. But it got 15.5 mpg on road trips. 13 in town. Not great but pretty good for the size and era of vehicle. 42 gallon gas tank meant I could travel very far between fill ups. I regret selling it. I miss the space for my 5 kids.

[@jaydenbrockington4525]

Spark plugs are a problem on ALL modular fords before the Coyote. I have a 4.6 2v in a 98 mustang that ejected a plug on me. Luckily it was an easy and quick fix

[@pluto419]

My dad has tbe 4.3 ( i think its the 4.3l Triton) and that thing is IMMORTAL

[@NaruSanavai]

They're not meant to make power. They're meant to make TORQUE.

[@jeffhall768]

They dont do that either lol

[@NaruSanavai]

@@jeffhall768 The torque it made was just fine...for a _gas_ engine. Nothing will make torque like a diesel engine, though.

[@Zach-ju5vi]

​@@jeffhall768They did make good torque, My 5.4 would light up 35s like nothing while my 5.3 struggled to turn 32s.

[@user-vg9dg4pu7o]

A suburban can pull more than a v10 Triton . Those engines suck 2 mpg max tow capacity thousands pounds anymore the engine or the trans fail. The whole truck is a joke.thats why Ford excursions were short lived had one no capability terrible in snow and never even try a gravel road. Junk, junk,junk.

[@chrisbolton3950]

I had to rethread 3 spark plugs. I tried so hard to get my expedition to 400k but the tail lights stopped working so I gave that truck away for pennies too🤦🏿‍♂️

[@peruanagna]

I used to carry the thread insert kit with spare coils and plugs to help people on the side of the highway.

[@yos9865]

As a ford guy I can verify everything you listed, and I can also verify my gut is hurting after that beating 😂😢

[@jeffs1343]

There's so much more you could say...timing chain tensioner gaskets failing causing cams to run dry, constant phaser issues, intake coolant leaks, broken off $25 spark plugs on 3 valves, manifold cracks and broken bolts, I could keep going... v10 was way better but still a triton

[@chilidog1741]

Earlyish 4.6 2v liked to eject plugs, too.

[@MrSuperchargedv8]

believe there was an updated cylinder head with more threads....The 3 valve had timing issues which benefits from a high volume oil pump. The breaking of the plugs is a thing of the past; extractors are available to get them out and there are tricks out there to get them out in one piece.

[@thegreenerthemeaner]

Friend had 2 of the 6.8s. One went to 325k when he sold it. The other had 424k but the bed was held on by the 5th Wheel hitch plates. He also had an early 5.4 Expedition. Ate coils every 8-10k. Always the same 3 cylinders. No spark plugs were put into orbit on any of them. Brother in law had a 4.6 in a Mustang. $800 more to replace the whole engine than the 1 head with no threads at the dealer.

[@SavageDarkness]

The 4.6 didn't seem to suffer these issues. Mine went around 400K without major issues. I did have to replace the EGR, but the biggest issue was the transmission which had to be replaced twice in all those miles. But was an otherwise dependable truck.

[@Mr.Safety.]

Gutless? Thats one thing you cant say about a triton 5.4

[@hasandemirkiran2752]

I purchased a brand new 99 ford expedition with the 5.4 liter Triton, it was gutless and sickening on gasoline. 9 miles per gallon. 120 horsepower Honda civics were overtaking me, I was afraid to merge into traffic on expressways. 6 months later I traded it in for a brand New 2000 model Cadillac deville DHS, I found it to be torque and powerful fast. I lost 10,000.00 on the trade. never purchased a ford again. g.m. and mopar rules.

[@DimasMechanics]

Man I actually just finished rebuilding my 5.4L 2V engine

[@chevyblock550]

I am a big fan of the 3v 5.4. I have mostly seen abuse being the culprit to the timing chain failure. A friend of my has a 2006 with 220K miles still running on stock engine and trans. No timing chain replacement. I have a 2013 5.0. It makes good power. No major issues to speak of at 187K miles.

[@PaulJohnson-vn7eh]

I've spent about 7 years working for a ride share service. All of our large wheelchair vans have the 6.8 and they're all pretty tough engines. They all have over 200k miles and I've never heard of this happening.

[@mrblank0059]

I have a 05’ f-150 and I will attest to the spark plugs breaking the sound barrier as they leave the engine

[@roberthegwood3528]

Can attest. The coil held the plug in the well. I was heating lunch, started missing and popping off compression. I immediately sunk. The thread insert kit i got was trash and it never really ran right again.

[@johnnyfields2682]

Have a 2010 5.4 , never had a issue with plugs or cam phasers. Drive a 165 miles to work and back every day. 175,000 miles still no oil added between changes. Strongest F 150 I’ve ever had.

[@sl0907]

Also ran into some earlier production 3 valves that had crank walk issues.

[@petersipp5247]

I have used Ford's 240 CID inline six for 40 yrs. Nothing happened the whole 169,000 miles. Went to the 300 CID inline six in Feb. What a difference. Have cast iron exhaust headers to help the breathing. Cyls 1-2-3 have their own muffler & short tail pipe. Cyls 4-5-6 have their own muff & tail pipe. The 240 started in '65, then the 300 came shortly after. Stopped the 300 in 96. Or 31 yrs of reliablility. Iam 73 now. Hope for 15 more years of health. So I can use the reliability in this super strong (20) more hp powerhouse. Part of the trouble in the new motors must be b/c of using the foreign metriq trash measuremintz ?

[@licensetochill79]

The spark plugs flying out of the three valve was only in the beginning. They fix that issue. On the second gen of that around 2005. But then they had another issue which is still an issue the oil pump being too small for that engine not producing enough volume. Causing the engine cam phasers to wear out prematurely as well as the tensioners for the timing chains using oil pressure to fill them and tension the tensioners themselves the gaskets with blowout on them and then you would cause more problems

[@zanejohnson8512]

Me and my son built a 5.4L and had the heads rebuilt, and they installed 1000hp inserts . No more worry now. And the motor is a beast.

[@housepumpinpc3983]

4.6l ejects spark plugs too. Bought a re sleeve kit and did all the spark plug holes. No more issues so far. The 5.4 has cam phaser issues. My truck has 258k miles, body rust but still running good.