The WORST Flashlight for Self Defense

[@bikemibby1100]

Imagine walking out of your kids' pediatric appointment and seeing icy mike out there hitting a skull with a maglite

[@jammaschan]

I spit milk over this

[@fallinmor]

The bloody love gloves kicked it over the edge. Either his strip mall neighbors are numb to the crazy or clutching pearls every time they see him walk outside with a tripod.

[@delirium6680]

Lmfao!!!!!! Man he's havin fun too! He fuckn forgot what they were doing bahahahaa!!!

[@dcard228]

"dont worry, folks, just doing hard2hurt shit"

[@realkoly]

was looking for this comment

[@MMarbleroller]

"Yeah, it's a balloon. They put balloons in it, son." hard2hurt is often a source of parenting funny moments

[@meatstaxxx]

Came here to call this exact moment out. Lmao... Fuckin priceless

[@wilhelmhaager5502]

I almost shit myself from laughing! :-D

[@WreckRod]

LMAO this moment had me in stitches

[@253MC]

Bro i laughed so hard at that shit

[@fireeaglefitnessmartialart935]

That was hilarious. He's still so innocent. Lol.

[@shelbyyoungfitness2716]

I love how thoroughly you explain your perspectives with legal, statistical, and anecdotal evidence, test each hypothesis, and then blow shit up or wind up covered in blood (or pepper spray). Awesome video as always Mike!

[@hard2hurt]

Yeah at some point it always devolves into "We're just doing this because."

[@shelbyyoungfitness2716]

@@hard2hurt very Mythbusters style, I dig it 👍

[@clockworkvanhellsing372]

​@@hard2hurt Nice test of the effectivness. One issue: You're comparing a xenon with an led version. If you compare xenon with xenon (incandescent bulbs that have long been pushed out by leds) you get ~170 lumen and 11h runtime compared to 63 lumen and ~3,5 h runtime. That is quite the difference (and 11h will get you through a night shift). The led versions are ~700lm at 71h runtime (ml300l 6d, verry few flashlights today can sustain that for that time) vs 9h 45 min (for an ml50l 3c). So endurance is the key feature for those lights.

[@gmkgoat]

Absolutely died at "it's a balloon." Great job maintaining your child's innocence.

[@ArifRWinandar]

Watching a man beat a head to a bloody pulp is also innocence-maintaining.

[@rrwareing]

This seems like a bit of a theme - people seem to confuse what is good for self defence rather that what is good for assaulting someone...

[@hard2hurt]

Then they deflect and say they don't care what's legal if they are defending themselves... while ignoring the assertion that they are NOT in fact defending themselves.

[@ArifRWinandar]

I got the impression that that is just how the average American is.

[@davidherron3136]

If you are bigger and stronger with hands big enough for good grip it's perfectly fine. I can swing that king size one handed no problems. And if it was scaled down in circumference even by 2 cm smaller people could use it more effectively. But ultimately if I was the bad guy and someone can't grip the thing it's gonna be bad for them. In reverse situation they would have to avoid it and close in ( like the old baseball bat defence ) if you put your arms into that thing, you won't be wrestling very well after a fractured wrist or humorous.

[@AdamOwenBrowning]

@@ArifRWinandar the average American in a big city is scared of this kind of idea, a video talking about impact weapons and bludgeons. The average American to come to this video and then comment? Well, that whittles away a lot of Americans and we only get one picture.

[@youcefzaouali5636]

Maglite seems overkill to me. You could end up in jail after injuring someone severely with that thing. Definitely not self defence if you ask me. Mace and a taser would incapacitate someone without injuring them badly.

[@torontocpl]

Your missing the point about the 6 batteries when I was on 12hour shift as an MP (Military Police 🇨🇦)back in the late 1970’s -80’s.. My 7D cell MagLite lasted the whole shift and longer with constant use .. sometimes we where stuck out on patrol without extra batteries yet I never ran out light with my 7 D cell Maglite ... the smaller 3 D cell MagLite’s were many kept at HQ (office area) incase of power failure.. cheers from HudsonBay area 🇨🇦 where I still use my 1970’s 7D cell Maglite in 2022

[@1ronman]

Exactly what I was going to say, more batteries meant more runtime back in times when those lights were designed👍🤝

[@clockworkvanhellsing372]

That, and comparing a xenon flashlight with an led one is a bit misleading. The timeapropriate comparrison with a 3 c cell xenon is, that the small one delivers 63 lumen for 3,5h compared to 173 km for 11h (an entire night). The 6d led version can provide ~700 lumen for 71h or 177h (7 full days) in eco mode.

[@crazysquirrel9425]

@@clockworkvanhellsing372 Mine is on and off. No eco mode. I converted the old style to LED.

[@mattburnett4185]

Yes he was comparing incandescent to LED. If you have the older style torch and want to keep it, it is worth upgrading the old incandescent bulb to a LED bulb More power, lower battery consumption, and the bulb won't burn out easily

[@Hefek]

@@clockworkvanhellsing372 I doesn't provide full 700 lumens for 71h. The light will go dimmer after some (rather short) time if left on. The math tells the truth - 700 lumen is around 5..7 watts of LED power (asumming LED gives 100 to 140 lm per watt). To run full 71hrs it would need at least 355Wh of energy. One 18650 li ion cell is around 10Wh (3,7 volt x 3Ah)

[@Jamoni1]

The casual disdain with which Cliff passed your hard-won butterfly hooks was hilarious.

[@hard2hurt]

He immediately and easily tears apart things that take me a long time to build lol.

[@Jamoni1]

@@hard2hurt sounds like my ex wife.

[@josephkerking8638]

It's like watching a dad wrestle with his toddler lmao.

[@BlakeMcCringleberry]

You gotta appreciate Mike's monkey toe grab of the flashlight, though. Serious spatial awareness and use of the entire body there.

[@giantslayer7835]

@@josephkerking8638 toddler is the key word here

[@lornenoland8098]

The Mag light has been the last-ditch defense tool of the “unarmed” security guard. More deterrent than anything. Like you said, when you shoulder it, it sends a message.

[@thanumgaming]

I can only imagine what the other businesses in the plaza think when they see him out there. "Ooh it's just Mike again doin' his thing." *mumbles under their breath* "Glad he's on our side!" 🤣

[@uchimatador]

I've played around with maglites when trying out self defense stuff, and it's weird how they manage to feel both unwieldy and too small at the same time somehow.

[@uchimatador]

"what if a baseball bat had less range and did less damage, but still felt slow and heavy" yeah dude sign me up

[@Kenicavus]

Same way I feel about my willy

[@GMak81]

@@Kenicavus Unwieldy and too small? Poor guy :)

[@yamiyomizuki]

w words, bad weight distribution.

[@MrBilld75]

@@Kenicavus LMAO!

[@thejapanarchocommunist]

Its always good that you're one of the few channels that talks about the legal repercussions of using weapons

[@MasterDoctorBenji]

It's scary how many people don't care about the consequences of their actions. They would happily shoot someone stealing $30 of Gatorade because they feel like the punisher.

[@owlobsidian6965]

I don't think the Maglight was ever meant to be a primary weapon. The main use is that you can't just walk around with a weapon in your hands at all times, but you can have a flashlight in your hands (while doing security checks or talking to someone), it's an instant back up weapon. It is also useful when you're not allowed to carry an actual weapon. Not every weapon has to be the end all super versatile tool, some are just meant to be better than being unarmed.

[@hellomark1]

This is the reason I still have one around, but really, they could put in a bit of effort and make it a better flashlight that doesn't break if you hit it on something. If it was just 3-4x brighter and *solid* that would be great.

[@owlobsidian6965]

@@hellomark1 yeah, they haven't really moved with the time in regards to light technology.

[@Universal_Craftsman]

I would rather use tactical flashlights for that reason like those Nitecore offers. They are much brighter, and smaller, the length of the Maglight isn't an advantage for self defence. There are techniques to use tactical flashlights for fighting efficiently, like blinding, wiping the bezel off the flashlight over their face, which deals a lot of damage.

[@lawson9102]

Well said

[@ColonelSandersLite]

@@Universal_Craftsman Truth is that the length of a maglight was never intended for that purpose. Transport yourself back in time to the year 1990 when maglights are *the* shit. No LED flashlights around and you're stuck with C/D cell batteries. C and D cell batteries are 1.5 volts. With those old bulbs, brightness was tied directly to voltage, voltage was determined directly by the number of batteries, which determined length. You could theoretically make a 'tactical flashlight' in 1990, but it would be super dim, even by 1990 standards. These days though, yes, mag lights are just straight up outdated. The people that still think they're relevant today are older guys that are stuck in thier ways and the people who believe them.

[@yuriandropov8405]

I carried a maglite on my belt back in 2001 as a security guard. The D cells were quite unwieldy, but the long since discontinued 5 C-cell hit a sweet spot. Slim enough for a good grip, decent balance and made quite a nice persuader. Jab to the sternum, rake the ribs, gut punch, tap on the knuckles, etc were plenty effective in gaining compliance. You hit somebody in the head with a maglite and you're going to kill them.

[@enoughofyourkoicarp]

5:55 The way that Cliff is just like "Forget the flashlight, I'm just gonna deal with you directly." is pretty telling.

[@themrbob737]

I have a few issues with your analysis. 1. The maglite is a flashlight first which let's be honest doubles as an impact weapon. You're not going to be running around in broad daylight with this thing waiting to fight off attackers baseball bat style. You're going to be using it as a flashlight IN THE DARK and if someone approaches you you're going to use that handy dandy light beam to not only see them but also impair their vision. Even though I don't know why you're using an incandescent light as the test subject I'll get into that later, even a 4D maglite has an 18000 candela beam at full focus, which is extremely bright. You shouldn't be letting them get close enough to have to fight them off anyways but if for whatever reason you don't have a firearm you should be keeping the light right in their face so so that in the event they do try to rush you by the time you swing that thing at them they can't see to effectively block anyways. 2. Even though maglite has lagged behind the times in technological updates, their new ml300l series of lights are all LED and range from 500 to 1200 lumens with programmable modes. You seem to analyze these incandescent maglites that have been around since the 80s as though they were just released and meant to be competitive in the modern world which I don't think is a fair shake. Again there are brighter and smaller lights but the wide flood to bright spot gives it a lot of versatility. There are a lot of focusable flashlights these days but most of them cheap this with a convex lens rather than a parabolic reflector, meaning even with a fully focused beam the actual beam intensity isn't really enhanced.

[@brianbutton6346]

Yeah, I own maglight and I was confused by what I saw here. Also, the presupposition that I swing it like a shillelagh at the cranium seemed unreasonably reductive. A hard thrust in the torso will bend over an opponent for a while. I would rather do that with an extra six inches of aluminum tube than my fist. I carry the 'C' battery model (for lighting). I can strap it on my waist and forget it's there. But if there was a confrontation, it would be enormously helpful. When he whipped out the six 'D' cell model, it seemed like things got strange. Never seen one of those for sale anywhere. He was waving it around like it was proof of something. It feels like there is an unresolved resentment of some sort here.

[@glenmo1]

I used to be a limo driver in NYC in the 1980s and I saw a Port authority cop attacked by a real big guy.. the Port authority cop did not have a baton on him.. but he pulled the 5D maglite office belt and knocked the big guy right out!!

[@Vinnay94]

Hi Mike, I'm a amateur Flashlight enthusiast aka Flashaholic. So that 6D Mag is actually the Incandescent version. There was a time when Maglite were the best, but nowadays they are behind even with there LED ones. Many people actually mod there Maglites to be more powerful and to sleeve them to allow Li-ion batteries, this also makes the Maglite lighter thus easier to wield. I'm surprised you didn't demonstrate the Shine and then Attack.

[@k90rbitrescue]

They usually don't label the lumens They usually don't label the incondescent. One did I haven't seen a conversion yet for the 6th D? I've thought about putting a cattle prod in one though

[@cjvoges6563]

As an Air Force Security Policeman, Thnk you for this video.. I carried a Maglite to help offset the weight of my ammo I carried while working aircraft and missle security. The iflashlght put out much more light than our issue 3-cell light. In the early -70's, they were the most powerful flashlights available.

[@bluflaam777LSA]

You mean late 70s. Mag was founded in '79. Kel-lite might be what you're thinking of as the same guy designed both.

[@jackburton2653]

Was a corrections officer back in the 80's. Worked overnight shift, and carried one of the long maglites that took about half a dozen batteries. Actually used it on a couple of occasions to wail on an inmate who was assaultive. Id rather have had an actual weapon, but since we werent allowed any (flashlights, even giant ones, werent considered weapons by the brass back then) the maglite was better than just my bare hands :)

[@lawson9102]

Well said

[@tomwalker8944]

Hell when I was 16 I had two cops try to arrest me resort to a maglight. One looked like Barney fife, the other one looked like Paul Blart. After the fat one get tired of hitting me in the leg with it for 5 minutes I got mad and took it away from him. Rode to the station without cuffs lol. Didn't wanna hurt the guys, but shit was starting to hurt lol. To understand the situation my dad was abusive, we started getting into fights when I got older, cops involved ect. Hit a bit growth spurt at 15, was like 6'1 230, played football. Was too mad to go with them, but didn't wanna hurt'em ya know? Actually ended up dropping all charges. It's not a great weapon for anything other than busting heads if you ask me.

[@rooroo9216]

⁠@@tomwalker8944sorry about your dad, that’s rough.. Hope you got him back. That arrest attempt sounded awkward as fk something like Chief Wiggum would do lol

[@tomwalker8944]

@@rooroo9216 To be fair me and my dad have gotten along pretty well since around the time I was 23 or so. Bastard finally got too old to want to fight. And I say that with love. Now he's pushing 70 and in poor health and ironically him and mom are fairly dependent on me. On the bright side I'm a better dad to my dad than he ever was to me growing up.

[@rooroo9216]

@@tomwalker8944 that’s so sad but also kind of nice that you both made up with one another and you managed to forgive him. That’s really sweet actually

[@buddhaspriest]

The large flashlight makes sense to rest on your shoulder with the light on their eyes while you're trying to talk to them and they attempt a lethal action. After one swing you drop it and go to your belt, so it makes sense as a reactive weapon in policing.

[@dcsteve7869]

nightclub security used to carry maglites like this all the time. The end result whenever they used it to hit someone was a broken or bent maglite. It's intimidating sure, it definitely got many people to back off when they got struck a few times but there were several times where they were taken off our security and at the end of the day they broke and it's really not a good baton. These days there are brighter lights that are smaller and better for illumination. There are batons that are dedicated for their purpose.

[@JDStone-jg8cg]

Same price as a maglight you get a quality flashlight and a quality Baton . . .

[@dcsteve7869]

@@JDStone-jg8cg honestly this isn't the good ol days when you could thump on some frat rowdy frat boys or whatever. These days if security roughs someone up for being an asshole it's security who gets blamed and these kids are sue happy. You can't hit them anymore and you can barely muscle them out of the venue without risking catching charges for assault even when they are 100% in the wrong, drunk and out of control. If you give someone a wack with a flashlight or baton today, you are definitely going to hear from the police about it if not idiotic "activists" incited by the media. Between the general anti social behavior of young people, covid, and the massive entitlement it's no wonder nightclubs are going bust all over the country.

[@JDStone-jg8cg]

@@dcsteve7869 You're absolutely right, the world sucks right now with all the Leftist social warrior crap. This is why i stay home lol

[@dcsteve7869]

@@JDStone-jg8cg hear that. I got tired of it and moved 2 hours away to WVA to live on top of a mountain. I'm just done with this nonsense.

[@JDStone-jg8cg]

@@dcsteve7869 congrats on your move to a safer local! good step towards self sufficiency! grow your own crops, raise your own animals and your golden lol

[@TITANia69420]

With how long that Maglight went, I'm starting to wonder if a Bo Staff Maglight exists Also, with how much blood you have on you while holding a flashlight, we gotta give you a Serial Killer Name. Something-something Flashlight Murderer.

[@cerrudmanuel]

Lol like a 18D long one? Darth Maul's maglight?

[@foursix32]

@@cerrudmanuel Make it double-sided as well. Put a lightbulb on each end.

[@TITANia69420]

@@cerrudmanuel Oh hell yeah

[@georgemetcalf8763]

Maglite nunchucks!

[@JDStone-jg8cg]

@@foursix32 I'd buy one just for giggles lol

[@rusty2381]

My problem with modern super bright flashlights is they drain batteries and always get hot if used for long periods of time. I have a 15 year old 2d mag light with the incandescent bulb swapped out for an led. It's not nearly as bright as a surefire or stream light however, it is still a very usable light, not to mention it has a beam that can be focused and the bezel can be removed so the light can be used as a lamp. With the led bulb, I left it on in my garage over a weekend and still didn't need new batteries. Maglites have out lived any other flashlights I've tried. My 2d has been beaten and abused but still works. They may not be good weapons, but their durability and functionality makes them more ideal in certain situations than most of their competitors.

[@senoreldughez4277]

What I enjoyed most about the video besides IcyMike's shenanigans in beating a ballistic skull, and realizing Maddox is growing up so FAST, was the clip of him and Cliff wrestling. Mike got a clear choke with the Maglite, and Cliff doesn't even panic or flinch; just works his training and skills to escape it and take away the toy =3 Another great video Good Sir! Thank you again!

[@farstrider79]

Or the dance school next door.

[@andrewmicone99]

Back in the day, Maglite was the only flashlight you could get that was reliable, durable, cheaply maintainable, that was nearly indestructible. Today it's old technology, but I still have all my maglites from back in the early eighties. It was never much about lumens, more about amp hours.

[@jed-henrywitkowski6470]

I have an old MagLight and it has a mostly knurled barrel and the grips on the end cap and bezel are raised. The barrel is also wider than that of the new MagLights.

[@clayyates2416]

Amen brother I love my maglite they were good back in the 70s so they still work today. Enough light to walk by.

[@derpydog1008]

You can get led bulbs for them now.

[@gavinlee6196]

Interesting how we r reaching the same conclusion on flashlight as canes. Some late 1800s treaties mentioned a light walking stick is better than heavy sticks and loaded sticks due to the speed

[@hard2hurt]

Yeah "heavier" is not something I'm looking for in a weapon. Faster is almost always something I'm looking for.

[@gavinlee6196]

@@hard2hurt maybe do a video on cane self defense?

[@tysonhargreaves1983]

This is just an observation but is there a possibility that you might be able to swing the mag light harder with less constrictive pants?

[@vhfgamer]

Explain the existence of this (6 D maglite) Six D batteries in series provide higher voltage, which allows the use of higher voltage bulbs, which means they produce more light. They are a flashlight, they produce light. LED bulbs did not exist when that light was released to the market. They were made in a time before higher voltage lithium batteries being common. Each D battery only provides 1.5 volts. Also, you keep holding it on the wrong end. You're supposed to hit the guy with the light end, not the battery cap end.

[@MJRLHobbyStuff]

DONT USE YOUR FLESH LIGHT FOR SELF DEFENSE!!!….oh….never mind…

[@jeffmaesar]

I knew I was doing it wrong when was working on nightshift...

[@Eric-bl8lp]

Chemical warfare

[@thetruemorg]

No see fleshlight is a illuminati style of tool to keep people in the house versus going out of the house... It's like 2000 IQ self-defense

[@outcast_performance]

That's self offence

[@MJRLHobbyStuff]

@@outcast_performance self development lol

[@jatbatman]

When I worked hospital security, I wasn't allowed to carry a weapon, so I carried a four D cell mag light. The only time I ever unholstered it as a weapon, was when a dude laid in wait for me. When I worked in a prison I carried a much smaller flashlight that was able to be retained much better, had the ridges on the lens end for added damage if needed, and was blinding level of brightness. Guess what... When I had an inmate lay in wait for me, blinding him with the bright light was just as effective as the presence of the mag light in strike position. As for the battery issue, uncap and recap it and the light will work again. The best thing about mag lights aside from the fact they're iconic as you stated, is you can put them through hell. Literally dropped mine off a hospital and it rolled into a puddle, and all I had to do is what I told you above about the battery issue. The batteries sorta unseat with impact, but the flashlight can take immense impact.

[@jatbatman]

@Hard2Hurt1 oh no, I'm afraid of the short list. Last time I was on one, the damn thing blew up. Is this safe?

[@sesimie]

Mike is both holistic and wholesome! When you bring in Cliff a lot of techniques have to get thrown out because in reality A Stronger bigger opponent will ragdoll you! Mike always showing all angles!

[@jm-alan]

Did an actual spit take at the "...then explain *_this_* to me" holy shit that is a fucking *_weapon_* and anyone who says otherwise is actively engaged in a felony assault case

[@jowee1987]

The extra batteries in the 6d version add runtime not brightness

[@opfor5593]

Maglights are really good for taking out your anger on someone who is already cuffed

[@LLL74123]

It'd be cool if you reviewed some old batons or cudgels used by law enforcement like the old English baton or even further back. They seem to have been a goto weapon historically despite drawbacks.

[@grilin18.]

Cause cops just assaulted people back then, very little baton or sap usage from back then would be legal now

[@IHateHandleNames]

Ease of mass-production is a large factor when it comes to arming a military force like police. I suspect they carried clubs because a club is easy to carry and it does answer some questions. You can technically incapacitate someone with a club even if it's ineffective and dangerous.

[@IHateHandleNames]

Also, at least historically for armies, soldiers were charged with providing some of their own stuff. Like armor for instance. It might be the case that you show up to be a guard and they just gave you a stick and told you to go beat up drunks that harassed bar maids until you could afford better gear.

[@AW-hg3pc]

like in kingdom come deliverance

[@Winchester7734]

there also reeeally wasnt any other method back then. no rubber bullets, no taser or pepper spray. the stick was the least lethal weapon available.

[@simonyu8838]

I have a a D cell Maglite I got back in the day before LED flashlights were something you could easily find. At the time, it was the best flashlight I had. There was a time where Maglites were one of the better flashlights you could pick up at a Home Depot. It still works after 2 decades which I can't say about some of the lights I've gotten since so there's at least some build quality there. I have a similar size LED flashlight in my car now that is bright enough to justify the weight and has come in handy a few times outdoors at night. Maglite is clearly resting on their laurels and not bothering with at least being a good flashlight.

[@svtcontour]

Well to be fair, the 6D adds significant run time for the light. Also in general the benefit of a maglite is its runtime. my older 3D LED version got about 75 hours of usable runtime (I turned it on and let it just go). While after about 50 hours it was fairly dim, it was still usable at night in closer situations. Also another benefit is its durability. The LED versions can typically take more abuse an drops vs more advanced lights that have more intelligence. Lastly its one of flashlights these days that will take larger Alkaline cells. Also dont let the low lumen rating fool you as its got a decent hot spot so it can still go quite a bit further than a lot of lights with more output.

[@christopherhowlett1096]

Those batteries are in series not in parallel. It will not add capacity or runtime it will just increase the output voltage. Basically 6 dcells in series at 1.5 volts would mean 9volts with a 12000mah capacity. 3 dcells in series would be 4.5volts also with a 12000mah capacity. In parallel 6 dcells would mean 1.5 volts with a 72000 mah runtime. All that means that the 6dcell light could run a more powerful led but since maglite for some reason didn't opt for one this setup is kind of dumb and a gimmick. The only thing I can say is that alkaline batteries are horrible with high drain devices and will loose capacity when stressed so adding more batteries in series will kind of help with that.

[@svtcontour]

Thats true but most of the unregulated lights I believe have have a minimum cutoff voltage where it can operate and they may not be the same as I've done testing with the 2D and 3D LED mags both rated at 140 lumens (these are the older ones). The 2D LED maglite with fresh duracells lasted about 30 something hours and the 3D was almost 60 hours - even though they are in series. Only assumption is that with only 2D, it drops below a cutoff voltage for the LED to operate sooner. Also I was wrong about the 75 hours in my original post because I went back to notes I made and it was in the 60's

[@christopherhowlett1096]

@@svtcontour this is assumption is probably correct since most 3 v LEDs actually have a wider range than 3v and so if you have 4.5 volts it would take longer for it to drop below its cutoff threshold.

[@DraftTheHippies]

I don’t know if this counts but in Al Neri’s backstory as a police officer in the Godfather novel, he beat a man in the head with his flashlight so hard that the glass cracked, the bulb flew out, and the guy’s skull was caved in.

[@pangopod2969]

Nice to see Icy Mike putting on safety glasses early on 😅

[@hard2hurt]

I'm learning.

[@OptimusSledge]

Welcome to hard2hurt, where safety is sometimes a priority.

[@brianc9374]

When I was a bouncer, we used to use mini maglites for checking IDs. In the Army I used one for motor pool and details. My biggest problem with them is, sometimes they have a battery drain.

[@rexbarron4873]

Here in England we buy torches to see in the dark and if they have the ability to still work after falling off a roof all the better.

[@letitgogu594]

I have two things to say about this video: First of all, I'm not saying that MagLites are just your reguler torches in no way meant to be used as improvised weapons, but from the specs it seems like you're comparing the 3D LED model to the 6D incandescent model. If your were to do LED vs LED (or incandescent vs incandescent, but we're in the era of LED, so I'm pretty sure no one would do that), the 6D would put the 3D to shame. In fact, even if you had a 6D that comes with an incandescent bulb out of the box and converted it with an LED drop-in, it would still beat the 3D LED. I got an LED drop-in that puts out 525 lumens. As for how unwieldy the 6D is, it becomes a lot easier to swing around if you hold it slightly higher up on the battery tube (not where the switch is, but slightly above that, right where the textured part starts). My guess is that they designed the 6D to give you the same reach as the 5D when swung, with the option to hold it further down for more reach and power at the expense of speed and maneuvrability as a "just in case" option.

[@stampedmetalsword8099]

Hardcore defense has home defense ballistic shields that I think will be great for review.

[@bltpgermany1151]

You missed one point. A big Maglite is scary for the thin little drug addict that knows nothing about self defense. 🙂 So it definitely does its thing for law enforcement departments.

[@nbrider7235]

There was a time when Maglites were the flashlight to have, everyone in the Army had the 2 x AA size but that time was over 20 years ago - their time has passed. I have one of the 3 x D cell Maglites, I haven't even bothered to put batteries in it for over 10 years now. I have much better options for both flashlights and self defense weapons.

[@StevenKeery]

NB Rider72: If you haven't changed the batteries in that length of time, you may find the batteries have leaked and corroded inside, rendering the flashlight useless. Especially with Duracell batteries, in my experience they leak a lot.

[@nbrider7235]

@@StevenKeery I have no doubt they are corroded at this point, I have far better flashlights so don't use the giant Maglite anymore.

[@waaagh3203]

I've never used it for self defense or ever had intended it for that, but those old maglites that were really long....they were actually not that bright but had a ton of battery capacity and were great for keeping in the truck for having a reliable flashlight that you know has a ton of battery life.

[@BrimleyAvatar]

I have paused to note that Cliff's face when he realized you were picking up the flashlight with your feet was priceless and also he may have thought briefly about actually choking you out at that point?

[@SpectreOZ]

I have owned a 900lm Maglite for over 11 years, who even uses a stock light anymore? More batteries = increased runtime, most people seem to not understand this concept 🤣

[@paulg6142]

I'd love to see a video of you doing old-school traditional impact tools like saps, slappers, slungshot/monkeyfist, and blackjacks.

[@jeffblack8110]

I was Lucky that I had One When I got attacked by two dogs..I was walking to my mailbox .. It just rained and it was dark. I didn't want to step in a mud puddle . So I had the flashlight on in hand.. I didn't have time to turn it around .. But it still worked to keep them off of me .. they were my neighbors dogs. Two boxers.. . I really didn't want to hurt them .. But they were being very aggressive.. Even going after my legs , trying to get me down..The female was more aggressive.. So it was a down stroke At her... Then a backstroke at the Male dog.. Then I'll take a step back. And repeat.. This went on for some time.. Thinking the dogs would Give up.. But they didn't.. i was down the street at this point , way past my house and getting tired..So I had to time it.. I came down hard as I can on the female's head Twice and still doing the back stroke at the male dog.. but he was too fast.. on the second hit She turned and ran off And the male followed.. So it works.. thank God I wasn't rolling around on the ground with them, like a idiot !! Of course that wouldn't have worked ..😆 🤣 Understand these dogs weren't playing.. I would have been Seriously injured or even dead If I didn't have that Maglite that 🌙 night in 2000.. Thank you Mia!!! it was a wedding gift That really came in handy..

[@brian96597]

I used to carry one in my car. Glad I never found out how it could be used against me. Maglight is always good for stuffing down a pant leg for a phallic joke.

[@owlobsidian6965]

Any weapon can be taken from you and used against you, its not something exclusive to the Maglight.

[@brian96597]

@@owlobsidian6965 Never said it was, but at one time it was "the" flashlight to have. My carrying one was dual purpose.

[@wichtige]

would love to see your take on a traditional Shillelagh, used in the traditional style with an Irish guard. When you choke up on it, you can maneuver the striking end effectively but also deliver two handed blows if the environment allows. In an Irish guard, you can defend with your forearm bolstered by the shaft and strike very quickly. I also can't think of a place on this planet where it is illegal to carry as stick. You can make one wherever there is wood, and if it breaks, well now you have a pointy stick to stab people with. To be clear, I am talking about the Bataireacht style of shillelagh which is typically about 3 feet long, more like a cane, not the huge monster walking sticks you can get at a tourist shop.

[@JGoodman333]

I was laughing so hard when you said "it goes from being a liability to overkill". Very true

[@kyth4062]

The issue is when a person is not trained in weaponry you say all these things. If you’ve trained well with Tonfa’s /bo staff’s this information would be inaccurate. Hand /elbow strikes, movement along with baton strikes combined with quick technique is the strategy. Academy teaches basics just as he is demonstrating.

[@sirusd.mankey1838]

You should do an aluminum baseball bat vs a wooden one. I know that the legality issue may come into play but I feel that it’s an interesting one since nearly everyone has one by the bed for home intruders if they don’t have a gun.

[@outdoorvideoswithbrad]

I have guns but most are locked up beside my sawed off, I keep machetes by my bed haha

[@hydrolito]

Tiger Wood has golf clubs.

[@outdoorvideoswithbrad]

@@hydrolito lol that’s a good one, p.s I actually got a golf club near my door but I don’t play golf

[@WarriorGarden1]

Here me out. Short maglite with malcoff guts. Turn a cheap halogen maglite into a beast of an LED. Run it if you can't run a firearm, for example a prison type enviroment where lethal force might be called on, but firearms arent allowed and with a malcoff battery and led conversion you have a bright and functional light and a weopon as a last resort. The 3C or 2D shorter maglites in particular.

[@thetruemorg]

Tldr maglite makes you feel like you're holding a weapon... When you're only holding a flashlight and are afraid

[@jeffmutter2286]

It’s biggest advantage is simply being a visual deterrent…the idea is you don’t need to swing cuz attacker makes different choice and leaves

[@hard2hurt]

Source?

[@LionAstrology]

Thanks for another video. The more/bigger batteries are intended to extend light run time I would suspect.

[@glenmo1]

I'm going to disagree on this one.. many 1% bikers carry & USE a maglite and not just for. Lighting up there motorcycles. They use these when they go to war and they use them very effectively along with ball peen hammers

[@j.murphy4884]

Respect to Maglite for capturing the "dudes who get all of their tactical info from 80s Cop LARP magazines" demographic

[@travislupum]

One of the guys my sister grew up with is currently serving a life sentence for killing another man with a Maglite in a road rage incident

[@anthonymccorkle8224]

Starts out as self defense ends up looking like a horror movie 😆

[@GMak81]

Yeah, when he was relentlessly beating the skull and pulling stuff out of it, things got a little dark.

[@MovieNerd1994]

My least favourite thing about maglights is how thick they are, they just don't feel good in the hand.

[@Jakub-tw4ue]

Nothing is like smashing a skull in front of connections pediatric therapy😂

[@JG54206]

As flashlights maglites are ok. At least the smaller ones. The mini mag or the XL200 are decent lights to carry for just general flashlight use. Much cheaper than a stream light and let’s be honest most people don’t need a stream light and lots of people will end up losing their flashlight. With a $30 Maglite no one sweats losing it.

[@vespaman101]

I prefer to carry a maglight over tactical flashlights personally. Especially since we have flashlights on our guns now. I like how easy it is to handle for practical use like popping it under my armpit when I write notes to illuminate my notepad. I also find it a lot easier to keep track of because I lose fucking EVERYTHING. It's so much harder to misplace my maglight. In 8 years I've only managed to lose 3 of them 🤣. Even my electric blue one I left.... fuckimg somewhere. It also has a great battery life and I buy rechargeable D Cells. 1. Cheap 2. Practical uses for note taking 3. Much harder to lose over tac flashlights But yeah I've never once used it as a weapon. I have used it to clear glass from windows though.

[@TheExplosiveGuy]

I'm a big fan of carrying a flashlight for self defense and general use, I don't leave the house without one, but my preference is to carry the smallest brightest light I can get that still has good battery capacity (1200 lumen warm white single 18650 EagTac DX30 LC2 with sidelight is my go-to), and along with that a good firearm to use in tandem with the light. A bright light can be great for disorienting an attacker and the stainless bezel can make painful strikes in a last resort but a concealed carry weapon is the ultimate equalizer, and made much more deadly with the addition of the light. Maglites are indeed iconic flashlights, but it's unfortunate they didn't modernize and pounce on the LED market early on before they were overrun by newer, more modernized flashlight companies. If Maglite had come out with some 1000-2000 lumen flamethrower, which they very well could have done when CREE LEDs hit the market, and made it a standard in all new production they could have gone somewhere, especially if they came out with a replacement LED head assembly to convert older models. I suspect they didn't like the idea of LED bulbs not burning out, I'm sure they made a killing on bulb replacements back in the day and didn't want to give up the sales lol.

[@jerrythomas463]

I mean I had to use mine working security. Dude went down pretty quick. Bent my mag lite but kinda bent his noggin’ a little too.

[@arbogast4950]

I just tried using an OG Maglite yesterday. It's archaic at this point. To think that this used to be the flashlight of "dudes" makes me lol.

[@thegeth4293]

I really disagree. Its great for a specific application, a light that lays around the house or car for when the power goes out or you need to inspect something. It too big to roll under a couch or car-seat and big enough too reach for and feel in the dark. I still keep a 3 d cell maglite in my car door, its focused beam is great for peering into woods, its great to reach for when inspecting a breakdown at night, and if someone road-rages and comes up to my car to fight me, yes, they are getting their skull cracked with it

[@johnleepettimoreiii65]

I bounced a pretty rough bar at times and just walking up with the mag light stopped numerous would be altercations.

[@Eric-bl8lp]

Maddox hitting puberty? Hes growing up so fast

[@toddbaker9245]

You've discussed the legality of using the baton and also the Maglite in this video. What I haven't seen you say is that both of them fall under the category of a Billy Club description. My question is are the Batons, Maglites and other blunt items like a steel pipe basically a Billy Club and if not, what is the difference? Thank you for this video. I've wondered about Maglites as a self defense weapon.

[@SatanasExMachina]

I've thought this about Maglite my whole life. Glad to see a reviewer I trust the opinion of validate my concerns.

[@quickdiy8127]

hit with the other side (the light side) not the tailcap

[@judafoster5587]

Icy Mike was working out some issues on that skull hahaha

[@hard2hurt]

Well they are expensive... I wanted to get my money's worth out of it.

[@judafoster5587]

@@hard2hurt I feel you man love your content you have a way of explaining shit that just makes sense it's really informative and I appreciate what you do much love brother

[@clints400]

Nice. Have you looked into using a gun mag as an impact weapon? I can't find any info on it, and I'm curious about it as a less-lethal instead of going for your gun.

[@Ker-f4o]

It would be akin to using a kubaton.

[@j.murphy4884]

Sounds like a good way to damage the magazine

[@clints400]

@@j.murphy4884 If you are hitting against the rounds and feed lips, probably would. I am willing to sacrifice a mag to win a fight if it's effective though.

[@Robert-tl5jx]

Been hit by one, fractured the floor of my eye socket and knocked me unconscious for several hours. Woke up in the hospital with no idea why. Your not going to wrestle it away when your try to stay conscious. They work... Well.

[@ant7699]

His review on this is wrong imo

[@wolfstatus]

Maddox: Is that a balloon? ME: "LAUGHED" and accidentally dropped my phone.

[@richardnash6111]

That's how they made a scene in the original Last House on the Left. Prophylactics with corn surp and red food coloring... I always figured the only way to use one of the huge mags is to throw it like an diagonal elbow with your hand gripping under the light. They were fine when better options weren't readily available or talked about. Now obviously there's a ridiculous list of better training and products

[@TonberryShuffle]

Maglites were awesome back in the day before Lithium batteries were unavailable or prohibitively expensive. Your only other choices were AA or AAA cell lights that likely weren't good enough for a lot of applications. Even then, by the time I was deployed you could get 4 AAA cell lights to be just as bright with the help of new LED tech. So...basically they mattered in the 90's?

[@Boubrowse]

Ballistic dummy gel company has earned my respect for using the highest quality materials to simulate reality. RIP GoPro

[@MC-iq5ns]

2:01 but have you considered that I am specifically preparing to defend myself against people without arms?

[@hard2hurt]

That's a serious threat i should do a video on

[@7xchad]

I bought a 4D LED Maglight because we get hurricanes where I live pretty regularly. It's over 1000 lumen with a 2 week battery life. I feel great having it in the flashlight drawer, but I don't walk around with it like a weapon.

[@Vinnay94]

Unless you modded it, there is no 1000lumen Stock mag.

[@gentleman3313]

The giant maglite and the nunchucks have the same use. If you can look scary with them before the fight sometimes you can just intimidate a person out of it. Oh...actually fight though? Nah nah...

[@valeriegogel4214]

Maglites suck??? Next Mike will say shotguns suck for home defense or water sucks when your thirsty. This dude don't know up from down. You obviously don't want a flashlight to be your only tool for self defense. But if it was it will definitely get you further than bare hands. Mike says.... U can get it taken away from u..... 👌 that can happen w any weapon Sun Tzu

[@richardmerriam7044]

If you're trained in the Kubaton, the Maglite 2-AAA LED light may work. You can bring it anywhere as long as it's operational. It's very bright, and comes with a pocket clip. You can do a wrist roll easily.

[@edi9892]

One of the old ones saved my life. It wasn't even mine. At school, I lent like 10-20 USD to a classmate and he refused to pay me back. Instead, he publically insulted me, which was a dinner bell for all the bullies. Thus, I ganged up on him with another classmate who also had a beef with him and got my money back. Unfortunately, this wasn't the end of the story. For an entire year, he kept causing trouble. He even threatened to murder me in front of the entire class. He also brandished improvised weapons on two occasions. one of them in class in front of witnesses! As usual, no adult took the situation seriously and during the class trip, we were assigned the same room! The other two guys were a socially awkward kid and our class dealer, who had weed for everyone that asked. Thus, I'm fairly confident that the only thing my troubles with him did was making me appear as a problem to the teachers as well that must be secluded from regular classmates... It obviously came to exactly what any sane person should have predicted... He waited for the moment I was alone in the room and tried to throw me out of the window! It was the second floor (maybe 10m or 33ft) and the floor was stone... I should add that a year earlier, I ganged up on him, not because I was a coward, but because he was an entirely different weight class and also much stronger than me... He had little trouble pushing me from the door back into the room to the open window. However, next to it, there was the bed of my dealer classmate who had put his maglite next to it. It already had some dents and scratches from previous use and I snatched it to let it fulfil it's purpose again... I was right next to the window when I swung it over my head and he froze up in his preparation for his last push. His face changed from anger to fear and he peed himself. We both froze up. I don't know how long. My classmate, the owner of the lamp returned because he had forgotten something and saw us in our frozen state. I can't remember what happened next, but I remember that after everyone left, I collapsed. My legs simply did no longer support my weight! I had nightmares and suffered from PTSD. I felt bad for freezing up, but also for getting into the situation in the first place. I felt weak. I wasn't used to use physical violence that much. I did think of how bad y tnis situation could have ended for both of us. However, I started illegally carrying a knife in case, we ever get a round 2, but he avoided me after the incident and in the same semester, he failed and had to repeat... Thus, I didn't see him much afterwards. Still, years later I had the occasional nightmare and I was still stuck in a state of hightened alertness.

[@MrMiguella]

Cops in Australia used to ride around on really quiet dirt bikes with 4-6 mag lights on them, they would chase you and throw the mag light at you in between the shoulders. My friends and I were chased a lot and hit a lot but never caught or injured.

[@jmn-5554]

Bring back flashlight icy mike!

[@jmn-5554]

Flashy mike

[@hard2hurt]

He never left.

[@icesamurai8]

I will agree that a gun is better than a flashlight.

[@jeffmaesar]

As a former security officer, most of my workmates swore about maglites, I still rather use tonfa :-)

[@trustme7731]

What made you think that more batteries should make it brighter? 2 batteries or 10 batteries, it's STILL the same voltage.

[@danielkhong1980]

Ok you’ve convinced me that Maglite is a piece of shit when it comes to self defence 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@stillwaterbuilders3714]

Absolutely, modern batons are toothless because of law enforcement restrictions. The old school solid aluminum pr 24 style batons from the 70s were batons at their best. the aluminum pr24 style can break forearms bones, and cause much more damage. which is why they are no longer used, too dangerous for the perps.

[@OneNvrKnoz]

Maglite was revolutionary in the flashlight world in the 80s. Sadly, it didn’t really innovate since. It sounds like it is time to have ‘the talk’ with your son 😂

[@hard2hurt]

Yeah wtf

[@henryskipper5507]

14:34 my dad worked as an mp a few times and we had these around the house all the time. So the one good thing for me is that theyre extremely nostalgic. Anytime my dad asked me to bring him a flashlight or hold one while he worked on something, it was always that iconic mag light

[@davestevens4193]

I use a 3D cell in all my cars. I'm 6'5" 280 lbs. If I hit you with one, I guarantee you'll stay hit. Plus it's legal.

[@johnnycaralta]

We had a maglite at work that was left on, frozen in a pit for an entire winter and it was still on when we found it. It still works now. That was like two years ago.

[@hard2hurt]

Well i had one die in about 20 minutes in 70 degree weather... so...

[@johnnycaralta]

@@hard2hurt Sounds like a battery issue.

[@randyogburn2498]

I had several Mag Lights back in the preLED days. Back then they were good, durable, & bright when compared to other lights of the time. I did have a 4D & carried it in a few occasions where an actual weapon would have been frowned upon. But it was dark & that big thing was "just my flashlight".