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@Oscuros
@Oscuros Жыл бұрын
34:49 What, now you're drunk? You say how you're "pissed" which means drunk in the UK since at least the 1970s. I think Americans have copied it wrong from us for only a couple of decades, but you're not American, are you? You've been to uni and you don't know what being pissed is? 38:52 Purposefully is the manner in which you do something, like you might walk over to a bar purposefully. The Me262 looks purposeful, like a shark, but you clearly meant deliberately or intentionally as we use them in the UK. There is also "purposely", but we don't use that since Victorian times as archaic, that's why we use deliberately and intentionally. I can tell that you watch a lot of American content and don't read much in your own native language, which is a shame. I also don't want to now that about you, no one really does. What I got told at uni when a spell-checker tricked me into foreign was that I need o choose a dialect and stick to it. You can't stumble into and out of your native dialect, which is proper English and not a degenerated foreign dialect, or people will think that you don't know the difference, which is indeed the case here, that's why we have that. I hope you did a practical or technical degree, for all our sakes.
@MordianGlory
@MordianGlory Жыл бұрын
This is truly the best comment I have ever had
@stevenbutcher7984
@stevenbutcher7984 Жыл бұрын
mate it's english, if a word can't be used 5 different ways then is it even an english word?
@spudroc303
@spudroc303 Жыл бұрын
"I also don't want to now that about you, no one really does."????? There's a phrase about glasshouses and stones that springs to mind.
@kylemurphy8255
@kylemurphy8255 Жыл бұрын
Damn Dave came back didn't he
@naynay251
@naynay251 Жыл бұрын
What's wrong with you? Lmao!
@starnostras
@starnostras Жыл бұрын
The manager broke before the Guard did o7
@JacksonBradbury-qh6qv
@JacksonBradbury-qh6qv 5 ай бұрын
Oorah
@pb4977
@pb4977 3 ай бұрын
XDXDXD
@mohawkmodels2665
@mohawkmodels2665 Жыл бұрын
Rumour has it, Dave the predatory salesman still has the 6th edition rule book to one side waiting for MG to go and buy it.
@hotcoldman9793
@hotcoldman9793 Жыл бұрын
It's gonna be in his coffin with him hahaha
@attemptedunkindness3632
@attemptedunkindness3632 Жыл бұрын
@@hotcoldman9793 The day MG dies and tries to cross the river Styx, the boatman is gunna be David and his damn rule book.
@ThreatLevel9
@ThreatLevel9 Жыл бұрын
yeah last i checked the one game store in the King of Prussia mall still has a 7th edition codex for sale
@AdamMichalMarkowski
@AdamMichalMarkowski Жыл бұрын
Sad part is Dave still being a predatory salesman part has high chance of being true, since GW loves this kind of people maning their stores.
@mattrosencranse9575
@mattrosencranse9575 Жыл бұрын
Ya know I started in 6th edition but I still feel like 7th was where it was at!
@maxoowar9759
@maxoowar9759 Жыл бұрын
When I was 12 or 13 I had a game mangager absolutely table me in my second (!) ever 40k game while laughing and pointing out how pathetic my list was. To this day one of the most horrible social interactions I have ever had.
@casbienbarr
@casbienbarr Жыл бұрын
this is why people never start the hobby/ leave the hobby
@vincent-antoinesoucy1872
@vincent-antoinesoucy1872 Жыл бұрын
That's horrible, I remember starting MtG with grown ups normal peoples in their 20's, 30's and 40's when I was 12 and it was stressful by itself even if they were kind and patients.
@seb2750
@seb2750 Жыл бұрын
dear lord, talk about a power trip. sorry to hear that man
@ecwfanatic
@ecwfanatic Жыл бұрын
I came here to share a similar story 😂 I started with Space Marines (as you do) in 3rd edition and only really got back into it at the end of 9th. I still have no desire to do the tabletop due to that interaction but I do enjoy the painting side and lore
@casbienbarr
@casbienbarr Жыл бұрын
@@ecwfanatic I'v felt the same but after 20 years im getting back into the tabletop with some mature players and its great. what it should be. we shouldn’t let aholes ruin it for us
@DisturbedbyDeth
@DisturbedbyDeth Жыл бұрын
The worst manager I ever had to deal with was back in 4th edition, my friends and I came to the shop to play 40k, the manager threatened to throw me and my friends out the shop because we were deciding amongst ourselves what game type to play instead of rolling a D6... When I showed him the part of the rulebook that said players could just pick a mission, he goes "you like being right, don't you?!" He was referred to as "Ponytail Man" up in Aberdeen and was pretty notorious for shit like that.
@custarddemustard2769
@custarddemustard2769 Жыл бұрын
Holy shit, ginger with glasses and a bandana? This guys such a dick, always had some nice “banter” for me when I came into play. He’s the reason I’ve stopped playing Warhammer.
@me4pie
@me4pie Жыл бұрын
Oh god, if this is Aberdeen UK I may know who you're on about.
@DisturbedbyDeth
@DisturbedbyDeth Жыл бұрын
@@me4pie Yeah Aberdeen UK
@imadequate3376
@imadequate3376 Жыл бұрын
Starter set that had 2 armies in the US was like 150?-200? GW manager was super cool. Convinced them to both go in on the set. coworker and a new player went halvsies on the 2 army box and they both walked away with a better value on the buy PLUS exclusive units to that box. THOSE are the GW managers I like. Like a store I go to the GW staff actively will shit on things GW does bad. Like the new 50$ sprew cutter, the employees were like "you're in God hand territory, i have no clue what they were thinking but Definitely just buy the army painter one because it's the same quality and 35$ less" and they are super helpful with people especially younger folks who's parents are buying it for them in getting them the absolute best bang for the price. I have assisted in a couple sales as just a guy hanging out. A guy bought his kid a nice starter pack of Orks and the dad was rocking a US army hat and was VERY interested in my guard and ended up buying himself a set of guard. I see them playing there now and again. Makes me happy new people are getting into it.
@brianhall4182
@brianhall4182 Жыл бұрын
Man, I don't think I'd make for a good GW Employee. I just wouldn't be able to bring myself to recommend anyone buy those awful overpriced tools. I'd wince and feel guilty every time I saw someone bring them up to the counter not knowing they could get the same thing for way cheaper elsewhere. Like, I could recommend the paint since it's quality even if a tad expensive. I'd recommend the models, and explain what are good value kits, etc. But those tools are where I draw the line.
@bigmanmccheez5342
@bigmanmccheez5342 10 күн бұрын
When I first wanted to get into 40k I knew pretty much nothing outside of a few space marine chapters that I thought were cool. I went into the shop and started talking to the guy running the shop, saying how I don't know much but want to get into it. First thing he asked was "what army are you looking at?". I said I was looking at Blood Angels and he was super chuffed since he said that he played Blood Angels back in the day. I left that day with the €40 starter set, because in his words "give this a shot and see if you like 40k", the best possible response to my questions while also feeling like a reasonable amount to spend as a 16 year old. He then told me about painting and all that, and handed me a box of AoS paint set because he didn't have any of the 40k ones and told me "that set has a black, silver and a red that close enough to Blood Angels". I know some people who are super specific with the shades you use because "that's not accurate to the lore" and it just makes the hobby intimidating. Made me feel, as a newbie, that this game had very set in stone rules, which obviously isn't really the case. Being told "it's close enough" was reassuring. Overall, best experience I feel I could have had as a new player. Now granted I haven't gone back to the hobby because I didn't (and still don't) know anyone who played the game. However, I've moved for college and there's a game shop in the city, so we'll see if anything changes.
@crowtein677
@crowtein677 Жыл бұрын
I feel like gw managers during this edition were particularly predatory. This type of guy wasn’t uncommon
@kyriakos232
@kyriakos232 Жыл бұрын
The current CEO and executives of Warhammer is a bunch of financial guy, who know nothing about boardgame nor miniature and are all about high sales and revenue instead. These guy will squiz out every penny out of the brand, then leaving with tons of money, a record of high sales and a bankrupt brand lossing all its mysteries and charm.
@crowtein677
@crowtein677 Жыл бұрын
@@kyriakos232 IDK man i think that’s a very cynical way of looking at it, I’d be inclined to believe you if there wasn’t any quality to the models or products
@kyriakos232
@kyriakos232 Жыл бұрын
@@crowtein677 sculptors improve to the quality of model, and market team making new model op each for half a year and NERF it to the ground. And gw homes more and more about selling you the newest trinkets: try buy some fw old model and buy a combat patrol, sometimes you can feel the difference. Not to forget that they write stories so hastily they make like 70 percent of the primarches and emperor-forgive me-clowns just so they can bring back Primarches and new factions, turning the background settings from a space opera into a family comedy about daddy issues.
@kyriakos232
@kyriakos232 Жыл бұрын
@@crowtein677 I hope there will be a long way to go for Warhammer 40k, but yeah maybe it's me being cynical.
@crowtein677
@crowtein677 Жыл бұрын
@@kyriakos232 in the end it’s a business, of course you’re gonna make the newest model OP to sell models no sense in getting mad about it tbh
@ecyor0
@ecyor0 Жыл бұрын
Augh, that story about the families getting strongarmed into paying for stuff they couldn't afford is *heartbreaking*. Imagine your first experience with 40k being a pre-teen essentially getting scammed, and also your parents now remember it as "that game that nearly made me default on my mortgage" in the future.
@Knights_Oath
@Knights_Oath Жыл бұрын
The worst GW manager I ever encountered got fired not long after. The guy was showing up to work, but would sit in the back and open the store several hours late. I had to call the GW customer service number to complain. When he was forced to open the store which was an hour after it was sapposed to be open. He was mean mugging me the whole time even though I was not the only one in the store. He was rude, smelled like booze, and bitched when I only bought some paint and a box I came to pick up from an online order. The next time I went to that store, a diffrent guy was there. After talking to him, he told me he was from a store an hour away and would be there every day for the next month. As the previous manager was fired for not opening the store for 3 days and had apparently been living in the stock room for a month. The worst part was the guy had hidden pee jugs randndomly around the back room that had to cleaned up. Even though there was a working bathroom in the store.
@whichDude
@whichDude Жыл бұрын
-Do you have any pots of Flash Gitz Yellow? -I've got jugs of Splash Piss Yellow in the back.
@Knights_Oath
@Knights_Oath Жыл бұрын
@whichDude Plot twist, it was not his urine. Just really old cum he saved in paint pots.
@savagex466-qt1io
@savagex466-qt1io Жыл бұрын
Are you f*cking kidding me ? lmfao . its funny but its not but what I laughed at was the Piss Jugs ! Why ? Because my old bosses room mate lived upstairs ! Would NEVER shower once. Had like black hands *no bs here bud ok* and when he kicked him out because he was threatning him and not useing the washroom EVER it took him a few months to figure it out ... same thing ! PISS JUGS ! There was a working bathroom downstairs ! Fu*king trailer park boys piss jugs ! messed up guy. Sorry you had a rough time. I know truckers piss in jugs because they have told me and iv seen them because i had the dishour of working in a dump yard up to my knees in Piss / Shitt and Period ! yess hunreds of dirty tampons / rats . I was comeing down of herione at the time thinking about my life and asking what 1 bad decision can screw your life. Im so glad im not in that dump no more. However we do need people to do that work .
@mintint4965
@mintint4965 Жыл бұрын
Wait wait wait lol he peed into jugs even though there was a bathroom? Why would he do that?
@Knights_Oath
@Knights_Oath Жыл бұрын
@Min Tint The guy clearly had some problems. If he was an addict or had mental health issues. Your guess is as good as mine why he did it.
@elgappa8693
@elgappa8693 Жыл бұрын
Holy shit, that wakes memories. I used to spend a lot of time at my local GW back during my school days on weekends, and the manager really could make-or-break the store. We had this epic, cool guy that ran the place, who was the most funny guy. he did cool events (Gentlemans tourney were everyone had to come in suits and ties, tea was served and no cursing was allowed on the table), auctions and other cool shit. Place was bursting and everyone had a good time. Then, new manager and the place just died over night. Power selling, all fun events were cancelled and staff was swapped out for outright hostile people. Never been there since, except one time when I was shopping in the city and checking for a Free company box. They didn't had none, but didn't stop the then manager from trying to sell me other imperium stuff, and the most amazing thing when I refused that, "Please order from our store, we get a percentage from that" Yeah, sure I want to give in my private data into your shitty PC rather than order from home. Store Manager Martin, you will be missed, GW Frankfurt was never the same without you
@cyanideinmycereal1077
@cyanideinmycereal1077 Жыл бұрын
Bring back the Gentlemen's tourney!
@Darkavenger2411
@Darkavenger2411 Жыл бұрын
Man reading that makes me miss how my local used to be. Now it's just a ghost town.. (manager & staff change)
@Tigerheart01
@Tigerheart01 Жыл бұрын
The unfortunate truth may been that the "fun manager" was not making the sales the company needed... maybe even breaking even or working at a loss. They sent the new managers in with their new sales training to get sales up... or so they thought.
@MrSilentSlender
@MrSilentSlender Жыл бұрын
Interesting, i am very new to Warhammer and got shown the ropes how everything worked with assembling and painting minis by the store manager in Frankfurt, who seemed to be really nice and caring about the place and the people playing there. His name was Jonas. Maybe give it another chance?
@klyk69
@klyk69 Жыл бұрын
Ist dieser Arschloch Manager immer noch da?
@-BL1NKY
@-BL1NKY Жыл бұрын
My mum went to a GW to get me a surprise bday present and the sales guys ripped her off so badly I went back with the receipt and forced them to return every last box of shit
@darthvader1494
@darthvader1494 Жыл бұрын
Damn that is sad. Good you went back man.
@Ryotbh
@Ryotbh Жыл бұрын
Yeah, had this with my Mum… anyone remember the GW paint gun (they couldn’t even call it an airbrush because it was so crap)? She had been told that it was necessary for ‘the Hobby’.
@topcat4858
@topcat4858 Жыл бұрын
@@Ryotbh mateee, that gun was the worse thing from gw I ever bought 😢
@brianhall4182
@brianhall4182 Жыл бұрын
I can't stand this stuff, taking advantage of poor parents who don't know any better. I get it. You're a store that's there to sell stuff. But upselling customers into shiat you KNOW they don't need is a scummy tactic that shouldn't be condoned.
@bobjohnson1633
@bobjohnson1633 Жыл бұрын
Sales is all about charging people too much for shit they don't want.
@parkwaydrivern5089
@parkwaydrivern5089 Жыл бұрын
Shout out to Sam at Warhammer Birmingham, the guy is the chillest man I’ve met, sat with me for multiple sessions while I was figuring out my colour scheme and I almost bought nothing from the store, at that time I couldn’t afford to.
@aaron527
@aaron527 Жыл бұрын
I used to work for GW. Everything you’ve described is exactly what we were forced to do. It’s one of the many reasons I hated working there.
@heofonfyr6000
@heofonfyr6000 Жыл бұрын
You forgot to say '''.....but we didn't actually do it'''
@alexanderglovett
@alexanderglovett 11 ай бұрын
Yeah Im like 50% through the video and outside of some awkwardness/childishness he just sounds like a sales clerk doing what hes told.
@DjapeKostic
@DjapeKostic 9 ай бұрын
of course they did do it. They wanted to stay employed
@heofonfyr6000
@heofonfyr6000 9 ай бұрын
@@DjapeKostic what are you, a worm?
@DjapeKostic
@DjapeKostic 9 ай бұрын
@@heofonfyr6000 no, an adult with basic comprehension of the real world.
@rhinehard206
@rhinehard206 Жыл бұрын
GW must have gone on a Dave hiring spree at that time because this sounds exactly like my experience when I thought of getting back into 40k during the dark vengeance era.
@Ryotbh
@Ryotbh Жыл бұрын
Indeed, my most active I was collecting miniatures was around the turn of the millennium. I used to dread going into GW, you’d be pounced on and treated really aggressively - this was in the Cambridge store. I remember going in for a Mordheim warband and getting constantly snide comments about the game being dead and whether I wanted to buy a random 40k army. When me and my mates said we weren’t interested, the guy told us to just pick up what we wanted and leave. No offence to any of the good GW Managers, but I’ve yet to meet you.
@24fretsoffury
@24fretsoffury Жыл бұрын
Sounds like corporate started a new high-pressure sales requirement/training. I’m relatively new to the hobby, started last year, and my local store is largely fine, I wouldn’t hang out there as it’s small for the expectation of the Warhammer stores, but the manager is cool. He spent a while chatting with me about the novels and suggestions of what to read next. He didn’t pressure or anything, maybe it’s changed since that 6-7 edition time.
@verigone2677
@verigone2677 Жыл бұрын
Sorry, this era and behaivour is America's fault... They opened a ton of GW stores in the US and started using US sales tactics, it never ends well you would think even the US business owners would figure out that is a failing business model...oh well. Dave either trained or was trained by by the East Coast US Sales manager for GW retail.
@ryanburke6354
@ryanburke6354 Жыл бұрын
​@@verigone2677 That's an odd conclusion.
@hughmungus6911
@hughmungus6911 Жыл бұрын
@@verigone2677 I don't know if you know this but blaming America for everything is a stereotype lol.
@MadMechanica
@MadMechanica Жыл бұрын
Two of the biggest problems with GW stores, GW only products and sales quotas. I understand that GW wants to make sales on GW product, after all it’s their store. Problem is that a large part of supplementary sales that help a store keep afloat are impulse buy items, dice, paints, snacks and drinks and such. Yes GW has dice and paints, but it’s good to have other products and games to supplement sales. The other is the quotas, this causes desperation and thus hard sales tactics. “Gorilla” motivation management methods like this breed animosity of the worst sort, animosity toward the customers. This is bad public relations, no matter what the bottom line says.
@kompav5621
@kompav5621 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's why I ignored my quotas when I worked in retail. Minimal add-on sales, only where it was relevant and appreciated. It actually inadvertently made me a better salesman because people would seek me out for sales because they knew I was genuine. Some didn't even want to spend anything, just chat with me, and I was happy with that.
@tommo9757
@tommo9757 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I'm so old I remember when GW sold non-GW stuff. Their shops were THE places to go for any wargames and roleplay stuff. Most of the shops were genuinely quite large ( well, the ones I went in like Birmingham and Newcastle) GW shops were always packed. Then they dropped everything non-GW and they were ghost towns overnight
@richardgreathead5735
@richardgreathead5735 Жыл бұрын
​@@tommo9757 been to the Newcastle store lately lovely staff by my god it's like a cupboard size of store now
@brothertobias
@brothertobias Жыл бұрын
GW stores (at least where I live) exclusively sell GW product. A bag of dice and a pot of paint is still GW product.
@mwu2712
@mwu2712 Жыл бұрын
FLGS don't have to follow the mantra of the "GW hobby.". The fascist crap from the party line is just stupid.
@motherreaper7287
@motherreaper7287 Жыл бұрын
This is both tragic and hilarious. I found out recently that the local flagship for GW has died, and from the last time I went in there I can't say I'm remotely surprised. The last words I remember from their store manager was "we're not your hobby box", when the whole place used to be dedicated to lending the store set of tools in the store for new people to assemble and start their first kits. Good on you for trolling that piece of shit.
@the_reluctant_acolyte
@the_reluctant_acolyte Жыл бұрын
Shout out to the Maidstone manager, one of the best dudes I have met running a GW store in 30 years.
@EveryDayHuman483
@EveryDayHuman483 Жыл бұрын
Garys a great and very helpful guy
@attemptedunkindness3632
@attemptedunkindness3632 Жыл бұрын
Me: **Kicks in the door** I AM HERE TO PURCHASE EIGHT BLOODTHIRSTERS SHUT UP AND TAKE MY BLOOD MONEY Store Owner: **Moan of pleasure** And Paints? Me: BLOOD... but also I could go with a few more metallics? Store Owner, to himself: _This man will feed my entire family_
@Per_Sun
@Per_Sun Жыл бұрын
Khornate meets Slaaneshi
@destyrian
@destyrian Жыл бұрын
I got visions of the gun store owner in Terminator: "Whoa, I get to close up early."
@Sonof_DRN2004
@Sonof_DRN2004 Жыл бұрын
I imagine the store owner like the cable company guys in that one South Park episode lmao
@attemptedunkindness3632
@attemptedunkindness3632 Жыл бұрын
@@Sonof_DRN2004 If you knew mine, you'd be kinda correct. Mikey is good people though, just ignore the nipple twisting.
@niksatt4843
@niksatt4843 Жыл бұрын
Same here
@sclarke6969
@sclarke6969 Жыл бұрын
To be fair I remember those dark times. GW went HARD on the staff to hard sell, nightmare for the standard introvert nerf the hobby attracts
@Ryotbh
@Ryotbh Жыл бұрын
This is going to sound weird, but has it changed? I just avoid GW stores due to several bad experiences and buy everything online.
@sackofpeas2470
@sackofpeas2470 Жыл бұрын
Depends entirely on the manager. All the stores I've been to either locally or while traveling around the US I've only come across super chill managers. The one from my hometown has gotten a lot of support from the company, yet never has pushed a sale on anyone.
@andrewramsdale
@andrewramsdale Жыл бұрын
@@Ryotbh it totally depends on the person running the store the one near me is a single man store and he’s super nice and well answer any questions u have
@bobjohnson1633
@bobjohnson1633 Жыл бұрын
Lol it's not hard to sell people shit they want. Their problem is selling shit people don't want. Sales depends on getting as many small sales as possible. Give people as much of the stuff they want for the least profit reasonable.
@viciousyeen6644
@viciousyeen6644 Жыл бұрын
I remember that time, now the GW store in town gets managed by a good lad that was once a common guy that always played around in store. The old manager now runs his own much better store where he can do what he wants, I remember how full & sick of that GW-sales shit he was
@Trauson
@Trauson Жыл бұрын
Seriously this whole story with the whole very aggresive salesman behavior is the reason why I do not want to step in a Warhammer store unless necesary. The one that they have in London Tottemham Court Road is notorious for this to the point of cringe.... And I cannot stand it. The only reason why I would go is to get some small games for free because you do not need to pay for the tables and thats it. And even then you clearly have to scare off the store attendants a bit from harrasing you because you are just there trying to chill and play with the miniatures which you have already bought.
@Sonof_DRN2004
@Sonof_DRN2004 Жыл бұрын
I’d rather spend 3 quid on a table for the whole day in a games emporium than a games workshop store.
@niksatt4843
@niksatt4843 Жыл бұрын
The one where i live is great
@chiselcheswick5673
@chiselcheswick5673 Жыл бұрын
As a 48 year old who has played a long time it riles the crap out of me when the manager goes into full sales mode and just won't pick up the hint. It's like being spoken too as a 8 year old. They seem to have throttled back a bit last few years but even at Warhammer world it was getting to the point where I would get approached by 3-4 sales staff going through the same patter on every visit. It always ended up awkward and me verging on telling them straight to leave me alone.
@andosan5995
@andosan5995 Жыл бұрын
Lol store manager for my LGS name is Dave. It’s not an official GW store so he’s chill. Smokes weed behind the store and walks around in a silk robe.
@EnwardSnowman
@EnwardSnowman Жыл бұрын
@Zero Clutter Unlimited Eric Bowman?
@technosaurus9389
@technosaurus9389 Жыл бұрын
A store manager got me to buy a 6th edition rule book literally the week before 7th was released even though we asked specifically if he’d heard 7th was coming out soon.
@CammieRacing
@CammieRacing Жыл бұрын
Yeah sounds like the Canterbury manager. I had the same happen to me.
@gfanikf
@gfanikf Жыл бұрын
Honestly shit like that warrants a call to customer service. I mean seriously unless they’re selling it and you’re getting it for lore and art, and it’s clear that it won’t be current soon, no problem. Hiding that shit a week or two before a new edition is top tier scumbag behavior.
@billysipe5040
@billysipe5040 Жыл бұрын
Happened to me but I bought my codex online 😂😂😂 almost took me out of the hobby but damn these ad mech models are so beautiful
@Daniel-km5me
@Daniel-km5me Жыл бұрын
@@CammieRacing The Canterbury store really is an interesting place.
@Artemyst
@Artemyst Жыл бұрын
Listening to these stories makes me feel so grateful for my local GW. The manager of my local is genuinely the kindest dude I've met since moving to my city.
@brandonalsop1281
@brandonalsop1281 Жыл бұрын
I feel like you missed out in the ultimate troll move of infering you bought the box
@Clutterlicious
@Clutterlicious Жыл бұрын
I used to work for GW, I can't wait to hear this one 🤣.
@MordianGlory
@MordianGlory Жыл бұрын
Hopefully this one isnt about you
@Clutterlicious
@Clutterlicious Жыл бұрын
@@MordianGlory The worst part is, from what I remember of being a GW employee, this totally tracks. Sorry that happened, glad you stayed in the hobby though! Love the content, love the guard, and can't wait to hear more tournament tales 👍.
@Clutterlicious
@Clutterlicious Жыл бұрын
@@MordianGlory PS~ I worked at the Factoria Battle Bunker in Washington state in the US, back when they still had bunkers. It was supposed to be like a hub. My least favorite part was our regional manager, very similar to "Dave". Obviously GW is a UK company, all well and good, but he would say shit like "cheers" and "mate" non-stop like a college girl that did a summer abroad. Like come on man, you're a forty year old man that has lived in America your whole life, we know this isnt how you talk.
@grfu08
@grfu08 Жыл бұрын
​@@Clutterlicious You're not talking about Drew, are you? I don't remember him ever talking like that . . . .
@Clutterlicious
@Clutterlicious Жыл бұрын
@@grfu08 we must not be talking about the same person. It was 20 years ago, maybe I'm getting folks mixed up. Literally every sentence ended with "cheers mate". I started at the shop with a guy who was actually British, then he was gone after like, a month, then all red shirts got axed, then got hired back, then I worked with Ryan for about 9 months before I became a security guard and eventually joined the Army.
@Princess_Celestia_
@Princess_Celestia_ Жыл бұрын
Worst GW manager I ever encountered fired his best employee because that employee sold me his old Catachan army. This GW was in a mall that had a movie theater and I walked in to kill some time while waiting for the midnight showing of The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King. I got to talking with this GW employee, can't remember his name so I'll just call him Todd as he looked like a Todd. He then asked me what army I played and I told him Catachan to which he off handily remarked that he had a Catachan army he was looking to off load. His manager came out and told us if I wasn't buying any thing then I had to leave. So we meet up at a comic shop to look over his army because I was interested in buy some of it, I ended up buying the whole lot, some 500 models for about 200$ U.S. The next week I ran into him at that comic shop. He told me that his manager had heard about our private transaction and fired him for "taking away business from GW." No joke, he got fired for selling me his old army.
@Astronomical_Cinematics
@Astronomical_Cinematics Жыл бұрын
I really loved this story when I first brought it up on stream and you happily shared the experience to me and the viewers. And I’m finally glad it’s now a video for us to listen now! Thank you so much MG I salute to you! o7
@E123OMEGArobot
@E123OMEGArobot Жыл бұрын
This makes me so grateful for my local store manager being the chillest most supportive guy.
@possiblyfulgrim3995
@possiblyfulgrim3995 Жыл бұрын
I'm eternally grateful for the Store Manager who runs my local GW. genuinely one of the nicest most genuine people you will ever meet. Actually was the dude who got me into 8th edition. Friendly, helpful, has good banter and just and all round 100% dude.
@sonofsek69
@sonofsek69 Жыл бұрын
I got put off GW when I was younger as I was looking at Warhammer models and the manager at the store I walked into told me to stop looking around if I wasnt going to buy anything. Id been there a few minutes. This store has since changed location and the manager there now is super chill, he'll ask what I'm after or if I need anything and he'll leave me alone if i just want to look around. I used to go to another store near me and the staff were pretty rude, even when I was actively trying to give them money for large game boxes. I never made any large purchases in that store, for some reason I dont want to give rude people my money, and the other store gets my money whenever I feel a need to buy something in store. I also went to the GW in Edinburgh and the guy would not stop trying to push FW primarchs on me, even though I already have the one for the army I collect. I walked out not having bought anything.
@chunkymonkey55555
@chunkymonkey55555 Жыл бұрын
Do you know what I would have done, I would have travelled to another store and bought the rule book. Then next time he asks if I have a rule book I answer "Why yes, I happened to be passing a different store, my loan has cleared and I remembered you were keen for me to have one, so here it is..." Oh gee I should listen to an entire video before commenting lol
@nanakakitano9724
@nanakakitano9724 Жыл бұрын
You're always super engaging story-teller, thanks for more of these tales!
@biornr.4031
@biornr.4031 Жыл бұрын
I feel like the first 45 minutes were just warm up for that troll in the last like two minutes... and I'm entirely ok with that. That was brilliant. Good on you guys for making that stunt
@tightmf
@tightmf Жыл бұрын
I went in to the local shop here in Northern California 6 months ago and haven't been back. It was a small space and it was just me and the one lady in there. I told her: "I just want to browse. I just want to look at the models on the shelves." She would not get out of my face. Just refused to let me look around in peace. Thought it was just her but this video got me looking at comment boards and the consensus is that it's the way GW trains them. Sad.
@dumbrobot13
@dumbrobot13 Жыл бұрын
Petaluma?
@tightmf
@tightmf Жыл бұрын
@@dumbrobot13 Yessir
@CMLew
@CMLew Жыл бұрын
The hard sell is one of the big reasons I stayed out of GW stores for ages.
@RaccoonAvenger
@RaccoonAvenger Жыл бұрын
That story just hurt my soul. This was how i was trained and worked in GW (when the manager was looking) as soon as he looked away i would do my own, Hobby friendly and casual thing. It would always work better than the hard push. Glad i am out of that treadmill
@Err0rkatze
@Err0rkatze Жыл бұрын
This is *exactly* why I stopped going to GW stores as a teen. Ironically it's also how I got into 40k: My mother got pushed into the big 3rd edition box when I just went in for a box of fantasy Lizardmen when I was a kid. (I think right before 4th edition came out, too.)
@EddyOfTheMaelstrom
@EddyOfTheMaelstrom Жыл бұрын
I feel a lot of sympathy for Dave. If you have an anxiety problem and find yourself working high pressure commissioned sales, you can very easily fall prey to hating the customer who doesn't help you meet your quotas. Every failed conversion (turning a visit into an arbitrarily large sale) is a strike against your job. You are constantly feeling pressure to be more and more like a shark. Every single person is just innocently visiting your store...but in your head, it very quickly becomes "this motherfucker is going to cost me my job AND my next few hours. Fuck him for coming in and not buying. Doesn't he know i will get fired?"...companies that pay commission are constantly bombarding you with pressure and manipulation. Straight up terror tactics and brainwashing. It is the most soul crushing job out there. Service industry have it very easy compared to sales. You need an extremely confident and stoic heart to be able to come through a high pressure sales job without any sort of hatred for the average customer.
@bassguitar2709
@bassguitar2709 Жыл бұрын
Local GW would have tons of unique character models new in the box on the shelf, but would refuse to sell them and insist I order them this his store computer for delivery and pick up one to two weeks later. Never went back, my FLGS has since gotten all of my business and played many happy tournaments
@Fluffykeith
@Fluffykeith Жыл бұрын
Back in the mid/late 90s, I remember going into my local GW with a model that I'd spent an evening painting and was quite proud of, because I wasn't much of a model painter at all. I was looking for some advice on how to do it better and maybe some encouragement. The manager's response was "Oh, I could have done that in about twenty minutes" and he just sort of blew me of. It felt like a really weird sort of gatekeeping...like "You're not good enough to be allowed into the painting side of the hobby so I'll just dismiss you." As I was at Uni at the time I ended up drifting away from the hobby until partway through 5th edition where I happened to be going past the same store and wandered in just to see what sort of stuff was available and what had changed. The whole atmosphere was completely different, the staff were genuinely friendly and helpful and answered my questions and pointed me towards the sorts of things I'd be best starting with to pick up the hobby again. I didn't really get into the painting side of things until 8th Edition tho....so I have a mass of grey plastic...but those same staff have been so damn helpful and encouraging, its hard to think of it as the same store. I used to hate painting, but now thanks to them, at least in part, I really enjoy it. The store mantra seems to be "It's your hobby" and they're super happy to drop whatever they're doing to help someone out or show them how to paint something, or give suggestions on how to mod something.
@inq101
@inq101 Жыл бұрын
Used to work for GW. Had one manager, Andy brought in as a sales superstar, very upsell focussed. If someone came in for a can of black undercoat and you didn't convince them to walk out with a new squad of marines Andy would be having a word with you later. He did everything you described and more. Once he tried to cancel the booked and approved holiday of 3 of the staff the evening before we left because he'd decided to run a stock check that weekend. Told us that we'd all be put on report and fired if we didn't turn up but it was all okay because we could order a pizza. None of us turned up of course. Neither did Andy. Reports went nowhere, the area manager was a friend of ours so quashed it. Andy rearanged the stock check to a few days later. We turned up for this one but Andy did not. He also tried to stiff us for the wages, for holiday pay and a few other things. Andy did not last long after that.
@grfu08
@grfu08 Жыл бұрын
So, there were a few Warhammer stores in my area, but there was one that had a particularly cantankerous manager. He had originally worked under a decent manager at another store, but then they all went to single employee operations, so he got moved to another store. Well, I moved to an apartment not far from his new location, and it was conveniently on the way home from work, so I was like "Great! I can get my games on the way home from work." What a mistake that was. See, we already knew each other, and I knew he was a bit of a dick, but I just wanted to do my hobby. We had a few unpleasant interactions, but the real poisoning of the well happened when the 8th Edition Wood Elf Army Book was released. Now, I had pre-ordered this book, in the store, so he already had my money. When I pick up my book, the one he hands me has damaged corners. Now, I don't know about you, but when I pay for a brand new book, I want a brand new book, so I point this out to him, and he asks me to bring it back next week because he "really needs to make numbers this week." So I'm like "Okay" and bugger off. Come the next week, I return, book in hand, still in the shrink wrap, and he gives me to usual unpleasant look "what do you need?" "Oh, I came to exchange this, cause you told me to come back now instead of exchanging it last week." I shit you not, he rolls his eyes and, word for word, "Ugh, are you still crying about that?" I am taken aback, but I insist on the exchange, he begrudgingly does it, but I am still soured by the experience. I never go to that store again. In fact, I actually drive extra distances to go to other Warhammer Stores to buy my stuff, specifically to not give my business to that Warhammer Store, and my business is not insignificant. As far as I know, he's still working there, and still ruining the hobby for everyone who walks through that door. For those who want to know, it's the Warhammer Store at Kent Station, in Kent, Washington, and the store manager was Jared. Don't be rude to your customers.
@brother_bear_hobbies
@brother_bear_hobbies Жыл бұрын
So buying a single pot of paint lowers the stores daily average sale price. I had worked with managers with that sale style. Ruins the store, and I used to hate watching ppl walk out like you described. When you described him piling models on with that high elf player, he also him doing the oh I have a rule book. Managers used to have meet-ups, and they used "complain" about "problem customers" and also ideas on how deal with them. They used to push staffers for up sales and it was super awkward with the role play activities they made us do. I left a horrible manager and left the hobby at the end of assult on blqck reach. After dealing with managers bullying staff and customers, i haven't played 40k or gw games ever since. They have a term for ex gw staff that lewve cause theynrefuse to conform "heritics" Your video reminded me so much of my last gw manager so much I feel for you, man. Also nice troll at the end of the story
@CorrinQuest
@CorrinQuest 3 ай бұрын
This story makes me so happy my local Gw store manager is super chill and actually tries to save people money
@tyrantlizardking
@tyrantlizardking Жыл бұрын
This series is perfect to listen to while assembling and painting my guard models.
@foraycorvette8689
@foraycorvette8689 Жыл бұрын
Tales like this make me feel very lucky to not have encountered anyone like that in my wargaming journey
@myrddraalhalfmen9524
@myrddraalhalfmen9524 Жыл бұрын
This ending with the little trolling was brilliant, thank you for this story
@teslabull5422
@teslabull5422 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy these stories. Keep em coming
@MordianGlory
@MordianGlory Жыл бұрын
Glad you like em! Dont worry I will be doing more :)
@Ma-vw5dc
@Ma-vw5dc Жыл бұрын
Same here I love these so much
@lukefiggins6851
@lukefiggins6851 Жыл бұрын
@@MordianGlory I don't know whether to be impressed that you've committed so much time to this hobby to have had more than one of these experiences or depressed that you have more to share after this: the 3rd installment.
@rannoch1454
@rannoch1454 Жыл бұрын
I've experienced the same sort of stuff myself such as pushy managers preying on new hobbyists and trying to push me to buy crap I never wanted etc. etc. I barely ever go in a GW store anymore for this reason. They are going to loose customers if they carry on like this. Also, well done! You were the bigger person in this and you got the last laugh! I would not have been able to keep my cool as well as you! You, sir, are a legend!
@kylemeyer2139
@kylemeyer2139 Жыл бұрын
You handled that better than I probably would have and I'm a 34y/o psych nurse 😂 good show mate
@darrenmcnally82
@darrenmcnally82 Жыл бұрын
I remember being told that this was how GW trained their staff on how to sell things, unless Dave just trained everyone at this time lol
@Kenno754
@Kenno754 Жыл бұрын
I've heard that GW rates the efficacy of their stores purely on the sales of whatever starter box is current - putting an unfair pressure on their store managers to sell those boxes in preference over everything else. Don't know if it's true - but it would go a long way to explaining a lot of GW employee behaviour if it is... Not that I'm excusing it!
@PeteOfDarkness
@PeteOfDarkness Жыл бұрын
6'th edition...
@Baandaed
@Baandaed Жыл бұрын
The closest story I have to that is a second edition tournament where my two friends and I had to teach the organizer how to play the game. Wargear cards, Warp deck and everything.
@Alpha-zb8sp
@Alpha-zb8sp 2 ай бұрын
This could be a movie, I can already see the scene where the manager brings a anti-guard list, only to realise it won’t work because he didn’t buy any tanks
@Motolmang
@Motolmang Жыл бұрын
I'm very glad my most recent interactions with GW managers have been really chill the manager at an Indianapolis location literally told me "you don't need to waste your money on brand name shit as a beginner. Just go to lowes or another hobby shop. But I can still help you find similar paint colors, minis, and whatever else."
@TheArcticMenace
@TheArcticMenace Жыл бұрын
What killed the fun of going to a games workshop store for me, was the change in tactics basically. So for years we were allowed to hang out, just vibe in the store, meet mates and play pick up games, the usual, everything was great. But new manager rolls in, and with them comes a new policy and this new policy was basically no hanging out with your mates, no pick up games. Everything (building / painting to games) had to be booked in advance, for a set time slot and after that, you’re done and you can jog on and honestly that killed the community we had for the most part, because half the fun of goin on the weekends was seeing all your friends, but they stopped coming too because of the ground rules changes. Obviously they have their reasons for changing the way things were done but to my younger self, that absolutely sucked and I haven’t gone into a store since.
@kurisi5563
@kurisi5563 Жыл бұрын
I wish I had a local independent game store. It feels so awkward in the GW store when they try and get me to buy things and the whole "non-GW things are Taboo"
@savagex466-qt1io
@savagex466-qt1io Жыл бұрын
Ya I hear you. I use to play a table top game called Mage Knight. they were cheaper and sure they were random in the box you never know what you would get but it was fun ! I always lost in warhammer 40 k ( always had fun though ! iv only won 1 game ) but with my Black Powder Rebel army id just destroy people. The ranged seemed to OP so id pick some melee to even it out.
@Felix-bx7fx
@Felix-bx7fx Жыл бұрын
@@savagex466-qt1io Black Powder rebel like 1861 confederate? Because the black powder wargame is the goat unfortunately underated, kinda hard to find opponent for my various armies such as 7years war Prussian or Crimean war finnish-russians
@incredibleflameboy
@incredibleflameboy Жыл бұрын
I applied to work at a GW store once. The interview mainly consisted of do you feel comfortable making and are you able to make pressure sales and pressure upsales. There was very little to do with knowing the IP and games (i played most 40k factions in various army sizes and a lot of fantasy too) and didn't get the job. When i asked for feedback on my interview it was basically that I described the experience I would want not how GW wanted me to shop. The thing you said about kids at their birthday too rang true to me as well. I saved for months to buy the new chaos army when it was released and it was like a £400 army but i couldn't go on day of release but my parents were nearby so i gave them a list and they were going to get them for me. Every set that could be bought as single models (especially bikes and obliterators) were switched out for the individuals they got talked into buying the packs of 3 imperial marines and 2 imperial terminator squads. It cost so much that they ended up spending all of the money I'd given them to buy the models so I didnt have money to buy the paints i needed. They basically tricked my parents into buying things i didn't want or need or sold the more expensive variant because they didnt know exactly what boxes it was I wanted. It kind of doesnt work to have imperial bikes in my chaos armies.
@Wolf359inc
@Wolf359inc Жыл бұрын
Around 20 years ago, after my then-wife buggered off and shacked up with someone else, I rented a room to my local GW store manager. Learned a lot about how GW worked, became good friends with all the staff, who were frequently at my place, playing games and stuff on his PS1 (possibly the PS2 - it was a while ago). They were, to a man, a great bunch of guys. The manager took great care of his staff, and pushed them all to be the best they could be, encouraging them to rise up to management, or just generally helping them with career paths, both in and out of GW. Dude was in the army reserve, and was a bit rough around the edges, but his heart was in the right place. The store really suffered when he was moved on to another Manager role, overseas. One of the red shirts ended up being a great friend, and was my Best Man at my second wedding. Have lost touch with almost all these guys now, but that was a great comfort to me, during a dark period in my life. I haven’t played any GW games for many years, but still play many other war- and board games.
@jakobbarr4216
@jakobbarr4216 Жыл бұрын
As a contrast to all of these crazy stories, I have a good one about my local game store: I was a poor college student who loved the lore and style of 40k, having played Dawn of War as a kid. I also had access to a 3d printer. Upon going to one of their tournaments, I asked the owner if it was alright that I use 3d print models as an army. He seemed reluctant, but agreed to let me play in tournaments, so long as the models looked like the unit they represented. As another criteria, he asked that I try to transition to actual models overtime. I agreed wholeheartedly, and played four of my first tournaments with 3d printed space marines. However, after getting a more stable job, I began buying actual models from the store. It’s now been a year, and because of the generosity of that store owner, I now have a year of memories with 40k, and a painted army of Dark Angels that are majority purchased models. Had I dealt with a GW manager, I would have had to wait a lot longer and my interest might have waned before I got more involved in the hobby.
@ElAhrem
@ElAhrem Жыл бұрын
Wow. This was a trip. I was internally cringing a little, as one of the blueshirts in Warrington was called Dave (when it was still down near the market). *THAT* Dave was absolutely the opposite of what you described. Absolute legend, really friendly and helped me out no end. As soon as you mentioned it was Dark Vengeance - I breathed a massive sigh of relief, it was a good 6 or 7 years after that time! 😮
@darkthemes
@darkthemes Жыл бұрын
never went to a GW shop but this story makes me appreciate the guys at the store i go to. i was never super into the models but i loved the lore and the books, these guys would let me know how many books they were getting and when and i would come in get books and magazines they were the nicest dudes. never pushed me to buy more and would just be happy i bought most of there books hahaha. good people.
@scotthartley7837
@scotthartley7837 2 ай бұрын
You're describing my nightmare gw store manager. His name was Ben. He did every thing younhave described and even belittled players. Now the one thong that finally got him fired. Buying box sets with a discount then returning them for full price. He got caught 4 times before they finally sent a representative in and fired him in front of everyone during a store event it was so beautiful, and worth the 5+ years of watching him be so well an a hole.
@AdmanCoop
@AdmanCoop Жыл бұрын
Ah, this interaction took place during my tenure with the White Tower. The pressure to hit KPIs on Beginner boxes and beginner paint sets was insane which explains a lot of this guys actions, especially for single employee stores. I was taught "Everything if your fault" - if you fail, its your fault, if you succeed, its your fault. No idea what the stores are like now, but during 5th into 6th, it was a hellscape.
@Klerik131
@Klerik131 Жыл бұрын
I had a gw manager put a 700 dollar box set aside for me without asking just because I played the army
@henriniemi412
@henriniemi412 Жыл бұрын
I had just moved to helsinki when 5th edition was coming out. I had started playing in early 4th and decided to get a new army. I was from a very rural part of Finland and there was no one for me to play against so I had mostly been painting and collecting imperial guard with only a couple of games in a nearby bigger town. At helsinki I decided to buy a brand new marine army and ask GW store manager about where to find games. I did not get a clear answer to where and how I get to actually play. Instead he told me its really stupid to just collect and paint minis. I saw the table at the store and there were people playing, but it was a mystery to me how the games happen. After that, no one wanted to answer my questions so I just went home with my marines, painted them and packed them in a box and did not touch or keep up with 40k until 9th came out.
@Tulkash01
@Tulkash01 Жыл бұрын
The city where I was staying during my uni days had a GW shop and 2 LGS. The people at the GW shop where incredibly chill (they actually ran a LGS in the site that became the GW store, bringing their clientele with them). Even in the other GW stores I went to I’ve never had an experience like yours (last year I was in a foreign country for work and ai had some spare time so I checked the local GW store out… not only I was left alone but I went out of the store with a box of eldar scouts that I didn’t need because I felt bad about not buying anything!). Seems like it’s something that definitely varies from shop to shop
@Glowmoff
@Glowmoff Жыл бұрын
That trolling at the end was absolutely hilarious Tim. I commend you.
@jimi_jams
@jimi_jams Жыл бұрын
There was definitely a company-wide shift in how things were run when this era of GW happened. I was an employee at GW in the early 2000s, and this style of selling was frowned upon, as it directly went against one of the Commandments of "establish a rapport with your customers" by getting to know what it is they actually want or need and finding the best product based on that information. The hard sell rarely works and turns off customers from coming back, as they understood repeated custom is what kept them going. Events would be run weekly, the store was bustling every weekend with young teens, the upstairs gaming room used every Tuesday night by the older players. Then the corporate greed amplified, prices got jacked sky high, staffing was cut to skeleton crew levels, events are a bare minimum, if any, and nowadays my local GW is constantly empty. Sometimes you don't even see the staff member (singular) unless someone else is already in the shop.
@Cry4Tanelorn
@Cry4Tanelorn Жыл бұрын
The Warhammer store in New York City is hands down THE WORST experience I've ever had in a hobby shop.
@samhunter1205
@samhunter1205 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely loving this series, I am so here for all the drama! That revenge story is perfect as well, I was thinking of exactly that from about half-way through. Just my sort of petty . . .
@patrickcolgan6301
@patrickcolgan6301 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I was thinking the exact same thing I would have gone to another shop out of spite. I’m glad he did that and made the guy look even more foolish
@omoroburns2172
@omoroburns2172 Жыл бұрын
I haven't finished the video I'm about halfway through but hearing and reading stories like this always makes me appreciate my local gamestore owner/managers/employees. About 8 months ago when I decided after years of consuming warhammer content I'd put together an army I had a choice between local games store and gw store I decided to go to the gamestore first and haven't looked back since between staff that will leave the counter to compare item prices and a nice 10% discount non paint gw items it makes for a great environment.
@RealEscado
@RealEscado Жыл бұрын
That is the first video I have watched of you and as someone who played local fantasy 6ed tournaments in my town, it is sad to see that a GW kinda destroyed your expirience of playing the game. I am aware that it was mostly the specific employee but it seems part of the bigger picture of squeezing every dollaroo of paying customers to finance some KPI. I am glad you found a solution and hope everyone learns something from your expirience. Cheers mate good vid
@matthewtucker7849
@matthewtucker7849 Жыл бұрын
Ah man this reminds me of a similar experience back in 2004 at a GW in Bristol. The hard sell was real. Recently got back into the hobby with my nids. Hyped for 10th!
@badgerbaiter2888
@badgerbaiter2888 Жыл бұрын
I remember this happening back on the late 90s. My parents would take me there and I'd end up with random units for armies. Wonder if it was GW sales pressure techniques.
@agp11001
@agp11001 10 ай бұрын
My mom and aunt travelled a city with a GW store when I was young, and Mom wanted to surprise me with a little gift. Store manager tried to sell her some Chaos stuff, but Mom didn't bite. She didn't know WHAT I was playing (Space Wolves) but she refused his suggestions by saying "My son's playing the light blue guys with the fur, not the black spikey guys".
@RaptorGoesRAWR
@RaptorGoesRAWR Жыл бұрын
Though I still have yet to play any tabletop game, I frequent hobby stores regularly since I love to paint (in fact, getting into painting minis helped me retrain my fine motor skills after a serious head injury, AND introduced me to the idea of designing minis for others). I've had the occasional sense of being less than welcome in a store, but thankfully it's not been the norm! Quite the contrary! One of my 'FLGSs' has one guy that gives me a weird 'why are you even in here?' look every time I come in to browse, but our local Warhammer store is super welcoming. Managed to get me actually interested in the setting instead of just looking for something cool to paint up. Such that I've started to think 'does this model team up with my other models if I decide I want to play?' just as often as 'this character looks like an interesting project'. And now I have three very small yet respectable 40k forces :) I can confidently say that if my experience had instead been someone like Dave, I'd have been spooked right out of the setting and wouldn't have bought even a single model or paint there. I work in retail myself, and KPIs be damned -- I'll take a dozen $10 happy regulars over a one-time-visit big sale any day of the week. Now if only I could use my Sphiranx in a 40k Daemons force! It was my first Warhammer model and remains my favourite so far :D
@ronaldcarlson1815
@ronaldcarlson1815 4 ай бұрын
Hello 07, I never had a great experience in a hobby shop as of yet but to be fair I have only really ever gone to two. I unfortunately never really had the excess cash to really dig my teeth into the model/painting side of this wonderful hobby. I do remember trying to pick it up a few times. I remember my first attempt which was probably 15 or more years ago, getting just a starter set from a local gaming store. I open it up and didn't have a clue how to put the models together and the scene was too small to really get any help from anyone in the store. My next attempt was maybe about 4ish years ago when Sigmar was still pretty new. I remember hearing about the guards order system and fell in love with the idea of having massive lines of infantry and giving them orders to “First rank fire, Second rank fire' and seeing "for me at the time" the new Valkyrie flyer. I had daydreams of dropping guard onto objectives before strafing my enemies. However, money being an issue those dreams dies when I saw the price. I have always been into fantasy so I wanted to try Sigmar and got Stormcast. Unfortunately, even though I now lived in a state with a Games Workshop store it was a pretty lonely experience. I would pack up my stuff to go and try to get some painting done while hoping to catch a game but it just never materialized for me. After selling me the box of Sigmar stuff I felt pretty ignored by the manager. I will give him immense credit for helping me to understand how to build and paint my models. Unfortunately I had to sell my miniatures when money got tight. I guess if I was ever to give it another go, I would buy Demons as I could probably play both games for one price.
@dustinhaus1165
@dustinhaus1165 16 күн бұрын
It was a store owner, not a GW manager but, One day I baught a Magic starter deck, I don't really play Magic. Asked if he wanted to play a few games, He spent the next 10 mins beating me with a $7,000 deck laughing at my face the entire time. Few weeks later I am there to play 40k. I had spent thousands of dollars in his store at this point. I forgot my rulebook at home. I know he has a few of them open, and kicking around. He said that if I needed to see a rule book, I need to buy one. I reminded him that I have bought several of them from him. He then called me a idiot for not having one with me. That was the last time I was there. his store was closed not long after.
@insertgenericuserid1
@insertgenericuserid1 7 ай бұрын
This sparks memories, i remember moving away from the local gw to finding a lfgs, any lfgs, even if it was further away and more difficult to get to than the local gw for this exact reason, got out of 40k around 5th ed, got back in with a desire to paint mid 9th and have visited many gw stores in other towns and cities and had a significantly better experience with staff, never gone back to my local gw store though
@rinsgravity2007
@rinsgravity2007 Жыл бұрын
These stories somehow massively keep my attention but help me with whatever I am doing at the moment.
@savagex466-qt1io
@savagex466-qt1io Жыл бұрын
Its wierd eh, Its good yet not distracting right ?
@rinsgravity2007
@rinsgravity2007 Жыл бұрын
@@savagex466-qt1io aye! Almost therapeutic in a way
@rougenarwhal8378
@rougenarwhal8378 Жыл бұрын
hey man I've noticed you're getting into 10th edition, I've got this really awesome dark vengeance intro kit I think you'd like, what do you say MG?
@Wildwolface77
@Wildwolface77 Жыл бұрын
That guy should never be allowed to manage a store like that! It's ridiculous and deserves to be fired on the spot for doing such mean tactics to those poor customers! >:( I'm so glad that you not only survived those horrible days, but you even had the last laugh at his expense! Well played and cheers to you on that one, Mordian Glory! Huzzah! \(^.^)/
@MatthewCharmanadventures
@MatthewCharmanadventures Жыл бұрын
Ugh. That rulebook story made me wince, because my own manager used to try to bully people with that one. I worked in GW Oxford in 2005-06. Obviously, I'm biased, but still. Here's my non-exhaustive list about this hellbaby: - Did the very same pushy tactics referenced here - Had a go at us for not pushing as hard - Was a bit racist and a lot misogynistic - Admitted he was a control freak but did nothing to address it, as if admitting it made it okay - Deducted bathroom breaks from your lunchtime - Cheated against HIS OWN DAUGHTER to win - Claimed that there was no excuse for a rainy February Tuesday to not be as busy as the week before Christmas - Committed 179 counts of gross misconduct as listed in the handbook over one 5-day period when my colleague Craig and I monitored it, whilst always claiming he'd sack us on the spot for gross misconduct - Every time you booked a holiday, he gave you a lecture about how you should always want to be in the store - He gave himself time off at Christmas whilst telling us that it was offensive to him that we would even ask - He said I was a danger to children when he found out I was LGBT (despite the fact he himself regularly perved on young women passing by). Luckily I was planning to leave two months later to start my MA anyway! We used to be encouraged to increase the size of the average sale, which might well explain, though not excuse in any way, his behaviour. It's petty, but every time I encounter one of these types I put an item down for every upsell they attempt.
@Teruko666
@Teruko666 Жыл бұрын
Had a VERY similar owner of a MTG shop near my hometown. Coinicidentally his name was also Dave..
@notsuresomemush2977
@notsuresomemush2977 Жыл бұрын
The manager in Bristol made me so uncomfortable just after lock down over multiple visits that i dont feel comfortable going to gw stores anymore
@electricbee1475
@electricbee1475 5 ай бұрын
I have a funny "power trip" experience with my nearby GW workers. I was enjoying an incredibly tense game with my friends at their Games workshop, and it came to my turn. I declared my shooting with my redemptor dreadnought against my friends guardsmen, or drukhari (i cant remember which). I was about 13 at the time and way too exciteable about it all, so you can only imagine how my face dropped when an employee said "you cant do that". He claimed that my redemptor dreadnought couldnt shoot its arm weapon because that half of the model was in cover. So, to spite him, i swapped the models arms around and said, "now he can see!", to which he said "thats altering your models mid- game" and proceeded to call an orbital bombardment on my dread, dealing 3 mortal wounds. Somehow this was store policy. Not sure thats how running a GW should be done.
@justinbennington4820
@justinbennington4820 Жыл бұрын
You handled yourself much better than I feel I would have at that age MG. Good on you.
@sonik0578
@sonik0578 Жыл бұрын
i heard from a friend who was in the hobby at about that time this story would be taking place. he told me that GW had a area manager/secret shopper called a "inquisitor" (they where staying on point with the naming lol). so upper management had been insisting staff pushed sales and where required to say set phrases to customers and if these inquisitors come in and find out that they werent saying these things or pushing sales they would get written up for it
@Rex73777
@Rex73777 Жыл бұрын
Very happy to report the exact opposite experience at my local GW store. Just got into the hobby so I went to check it out. Its a small store run by this one awesome dude named TJ, the guy is a professional artist and is a super chill dude. Very knowledgeable and friendly. Looking at the comments section, I may be very lucky.
@Chief-Solarize
@Chief-Solarize Жыл бұрын
You're a good story teller dude. I could listen to you tell stories all day.
@aleehomedition8165
@aleehomedition8165 Жыл бұрын
AHAHHAHAHAH this story was awesome!. The last troll was the cherry on the top
@cameronward9443
@cameronward9443 Жыл бұрын
back in 3rd and 4th I was college and University and there was a GW store close by. I used to stop by multiple times per week and the staff always wanted to play. It wasn't a Saturday afternoon or anything and they were always happy to play a quick combat patrol game with whatever models they had lying around. Couldn't imagine them saying that they only play demo games in order to sell you a $250 box...
@JezOnYT88
@JezOnYT88 Жыл бұрын
two years ago (tail end of covid here) i called into a GW store in brisbane Queensland. I lived like 2 hours away and was passing through to se family. Decided that i wanted to grab some paint. Pulled up and walked in, the place was completely empty and i went over to the paints. The two store employees came running over yelling at me to get a mask! I said i was out of town and knew nothing about the mask requirements. They told me to get out of the store and get a mask, i said i was after paint and told them what colour. They begrudgingly get it for me and i pay. The store manager (i beleive one of them was anyway) had to get the final word in "Next time wear a mask!" I looked around and saw no signs (i later checked their FB page and no mention) so i said to him "Maybe you should be more visible about the requirements for masks then." I have since refused to go to that store.
@byzantiphile7630
@byzantiphile7630 Жыл бұрын
That it was the box set rulebook is the icing on the cake. Perfect.
@DV0lD
@DV0lD 3 күн бұрын
Id watch it with that manager he could write in to gw writers and get them to write in to the lore that tyranids consume mordia. I read a story where a mordian saw tyranids wipe out lamenters and a whole world so he shot himself in a fox hole at the end while worrying about mordia so the threat is there.
@mrpotatospudthe1sy160
@mrpotatospudthe1sy160 Жыл бұрын
It must be something about the dark vengence era, had a manager try to make me buy a box set, file off all the icons on the dark angles so i could paint and run them as blood angels. Just remember looking at him like he was mad.
@C0ldIron
@C0ldIron Жыл бұрын
My closest GW store is run by Dave’s polar opposite. The guy is so passive about the whole thing it’s annoying. Like he barely will give you any information at all for fear of influencing your decision. I went in their to get my first AoS army and asked about some of the armies and he gave me nothing. Me: So what do these guys do? *points as sylvaneth* Him: well they attack stuff. Then I go there in preparation to get back into 40k after 14 years or so in preparation for 10th announcement and bring a friend who’s interested in the game. Me who’s only been fallowing the lore on and off for several years: So how do the grey knights play. Him: Well, their space marines. Seriously, I’ve never seen someone more reluctant to do his job and he owns the store. I can go to Home Depot and vaguely describe the things I need and the people their can tell me exactly where it is and give me options if there’s more than one of the thing but this guy can barely describe the the cliff notes of his products.
@robodrome
@robodrome Жыл бұрын
Hope you got more stories, I love this series!
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